Missile testing

[maiden igloo]

This suggestion works on the assumption that submarines can and will be added to Aeronautica.

So, assuming submarines would be added to Aero, one of the jobs I would suggest that they be able to do would be missile testing. Although, no, it probably wouldn't be at Norman. This would primarily concern SSG/SSB/SSGN/SSBN, although submarines like the Seawolf or Virginia should be able to fire TLAMs from their torpedo tubes as well.

Each submarine (if it supports SLBMs or SLCMs) will be assigned a specific amount of missiles and when they accept the job they would be notified of where there are targets to fire inert SLBMs/SLCMs upon.

For the most part, firing the missiles would be done by literally pressing 1 keybind, but payment is determined via the accuracy of the impact of the SLCM/SLBM during its terminal approach phase. A target, similar to the one at Norman, would be generated at random locations around the map, and terminal guidance correction would be done via the arrow keys. Yes, due to the inherent inaccuracy that every missile comes with, it will pull away to a specific bearing if you do not guide it in terminally. Thus, you would need to have manual guidance correction inputs via the arrow keys (tbh) to correct it to the centre of the target as much as possible

As these are missiles, and only the accuracy of impact matters towards payout, the distance between launch and impact site will have no correlation. Submarines armed with earlier, more inaccurate (ie pull harder away from target) missiles will be cheaper whereas submarines with missiles that have a lesser CEP value will be more expensive. Amount of missiles carried may also affect pricing.

Also some missiles go to space, notably (but not limited to) SS-N-6 Serb (620km flight ceiling).

omw to get downvoted to high hell for suggesting adding ballistic missile tests to a all-ages game

(I just wanna spectate funny missile that into space and back while earning WP)

[real condor]

https://tenor.com/view/imostergolfra-gif-25274972

[maiden igloo]

submarine fire missile across map into space and back, hit red target like the one at norman, earn points the more accurate it is

[real condor]

AH OK

[maiden igloo]

620km flight ceiling 😭

[remote parrot]

if its not similar to payload drop then

no

but is it?

[maiden igloo]

bro

[remote parrot]

what bro

[remote parrot]

i mean you get to the yellow sign, press a button and leave, none of controlling the missile as (i believe) i saw in ur wall of text

[maiden igloo]

what part of "firing a missile, that goes into space and back, from a submarine, to hit a target" is remotely close to "flying at supersonic speeds into a canyon and dropping what effectively are extremely high drag bombs, to hit a target"

are close

[maiden igloo]

oh right pressing the arrow keys doesnt acutally type anything 😭

[remote parrot]

i mean

wait

[maiden igloo]

fixed

[remote parrot]

"guidance would be done via the arrow keys"

bro

thats what i mean

[maiden igloo]

terminal guidance

[remote parrot]

wdym terminal?

[maiden igloo]

most of the flight you're spectating a high-hypersonic missile

while underwater

[remote parrot]

got it

not yessing

[maiden igloo]

Sotkas and Blackbirds when they suddenly see a column of smoke fly way faster than them and quite literally spaceclimb:

[spice heron]

HELL YEAH

(i own a borei class in game so HELL YEAH)

[maiden igloo]

wait waht

[spice heron]

subs are in game

just not realsed to public

backstocked

(they diont even work and cant submerge)

[buoyant stream]

No submerge not good 👎👎

[maiden igloo]

they dont really need to submerge to do this job tho

[spice heron]

yeah what isaid isn't related to this suggestion btw

[maiden igloo]

how many SLBMs can borei carry again?

24?

[flint slate]

so it's optional? (if the missile is able to be fired underwater)

[maiden igloo]

Yeah most SSGs/SSBs can fire their missiles at the surface

some earlier ones, such as George Washington-class and Juliett-class, iirc, actually required the sub be surfaced in order to fire

[spice heron]

16

with 6 MIRV

so 96 Nuclear Warheads

[summer jacinth]

They most likely never, since we need detailed sea ground for that and with our current limits it’s just not feasible

[raw hazel]

bikini bottom

wait why just not add a sea floor? Or just 1 large brick with like a sand texture or something

[summer jacinth]

Because every island in game should be manually reworked to make it deeper

[plush pine]

i swear the LA-class can submerge

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[plush pine]

why don't you do like DSS3

diagonal wedges to the seafloor

and then a flat seafloor

OR

make submarines dive like in WoWs (dive to fixed depth levels)

[summer jacinth]

Yes, it’s still adds a lot to scenery weight

It’s not hard to do or we’re too lazy to, it’s just technical limit so far

[plush pine]

hmm

[plush pine]

how about this then ?

would only require extending the seafloor up to the limit you set (maybe ~200 meters)

and while limiting, it would be infinitely more fun than just having another reskinned yacht

[summer jacinth]

It still means we need to make sea floor one way or another

[plush pine]

only on the very coast

say you cap the submarines at 100 meters

and you add a 100 m render distance underwater

then you have no obligation to model the seafloor under 200 m

[flint slate]

how about using the same thing you guys used on the waves?

a moving platform

[summer jacinth]

yes, which means every island should be reworked and adding way more to the scenery weight

something i told 3 times already

[spice heron]

It's just a dev

Making you offset

[plush pine]

oh

[spice heron]

Ive also been submerged in my borei

[plush pine]

honestly i'd be happy with any functionality for the submarines, even if we have invisible walls or set submersion depths

[maiden igloo]

Does the damn thing have a crush depth lol

[maiden igloo]

I mean the sea floor could literally be flat and not rendered and below everyone's crush depth

[summer jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-gif-24048347

[spice heron]

just add code to submerge for now come on

we can think about floor later

[gusty portal]

This but instead of missiles they fire lemons

And for the precision pay thing its the same system as those lemon dropping jobs

[flint slate]

Ballistic Lemones

[gusty portal]

Ballistic Limonchello

[plush pine]

i know this would be too unpolished to be greenlit

but i'd literally prefer if there was no seafloor at all

but that submarines get any sort of diving capability

[gusty portal]

They won't?

[plush pine]

i hope they will

[gusty portal]

What's the point of adding submarines if they can't dive

[maiden igloo]

Neo, being stupid as it is, just gives submarines unrealistically shallow crush depths

[worldly stone]

Calvin (P-105) is AFK: ep - 8 hours ago

[maiden igloo]

In any case Neo isn't even a remotely good reference for how submarines should be in Aero (if they ever get added for pubs)

[maiden igloo]

I mean from a weird standpoint it's kinda the same group as PTS, cargo drop and lemon drop

[maiden igloo]

High hypersonic lemon junpscaring Blackbirds and Sotkas

Or in the case of the Ohio, could be simply 154 smoke pillars with 154 lemons being the source of said columns

[plush pine]

it is rather silly, but IMO if it is required for aero submarines to have a diving feature

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-a-small-price-to-pay-for-salvation-a-small-price-to-pay-price-to-pay-avengers-gif-22079658

[maiden igloo]

Neo used to have a decent system

Where subs would actually raise/lower their noses

If they wanted to surface/submerge

Key word used to

[maiden igloo]

Though I do have a question/asking for your opinion

What should subs that are not capable of firing missiles

Do

Granted if the devs DID make a seabed some unmanned submersibles and the Mike-class should probably be able to do underwater crate hunting or something

But most of them don't even dive beyond 2000 ft iirc

[plush pine]

enclaved did outline that a seabed isn't really feasible in the current state of the game (and roblox as a platform)

[maiden igloo]

I mean some oceans have seabed depth that greatly exceed crush depth of most submarines so

It doesn't need to be present

There's also the funny issue with nuclear subs never being able to run out of fuel in a realistic time frame

[plush pine]

we already have the nuclear icebreaker

devs will probably do the same thing

(give them like 2500 km of range and call it a day)

[maiden igloo]

How much does the average cargo ship have

In terms of range

[plush pine]

depends

a lot of boats have medium to long ranges

[maiden igloo]

The giant Japanese oil tanker

[plush pine]

the 16 vehicles with the longest range in the game are all boats

[plush pine]

991 km (535 nmi)

[maiden igloo]

What's the map dimensions again?

[plush pine]

750 km by 750

forgor how much it is in nmi

about 400 nmi

i kinda love it when wikipedia starts referring to submarine/aircraft carrier ranges in years instead of km

[maiden igloo]

Ok so the nuclear icebreaker is theoretically capable of running the maximum circular path around the map and returning to centre point

With fuel to spare

[maiden igloo]

It's just a nuclear propulsion moment

[plush pine]

i made a bet on starboard but haven't fullfilled it yet

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