Re-add the Mammoth to Camp Cygnus

[paper meadow]

We had it, we loved it, we even had an event where we got to choose a name for it. Now its gone. We want it back.

[grim agate]

Didn’t even know it existed

[hasty bramble]

YES YES YES YES YES

didn't see it but FUCK YEA

[gusty dock]

i didnt know it had a name but i need it back

[rustic gazelle]

What's the name

[paper meadow]

I think Tusk-Aurora.

https://trello.com/c/iht1fkMZ/578-an-ongoing-tale-of-tusk-aurora

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An Ongoing Tale of "Tusk-Aurora"

Modern explanations offered by scientists of Enoksen and Kjerstin have in no way been able to explain a lot of missing pieces of a mystery relevant to the past half century.

An initial expedition to the iceberg sometime in the late 1970s led to the discovery of a rather... unique animal frozen in solid ice, nicknamed "Tusk-Aurora" for its splen...

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[rustic gazelle]

He melted and sank to the bottom of the ocean

Rip tusk

[crimson hound]

global warming

[fallen kraken]

wait was a mammoth before remodel?

[pallid willow]

[dark kiln]

can we bring back the huge spine and ribcage too please/

[hasty bramble]

please lol

[dark kiln]

yes gang

[unkempt wagon]

NOOOOOOOO TUSK-ARORA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I can’t believe it’s gone :(

My well thought out name

(Also yes Im the dude that named the mammoth)

(Also technically the name is incorrect because I named it as a reference to BSA camp Tuscarora, so I said “Tusk-Arora” but it got translated to “Tusk-Aurora” which makes more sense)

But yeah the uhhh… “Arctic” role I believe was the unique role I had for a while until Pine Mint overwrote it came from the event where a bunch of people (including me) submitted ideas for Camp Cygnuts lore.

I really liked Tusk-arora, I’m sad it’s gone.

[dark kiln]

what about the huge ass spine and ribcage

[unkempt wagon]

That was also cool and should be brought back

[dark kiln]

what was the lore for it

and who came up with it

[unkempt wagon]

That was one of the first and few Easter eggs in the game

[unkempt wagon]

Idk, it’s just been there

[dark kiln]

it was there post remodel

[unkempt wagon]

It was meant as an interesting feature so that the massive ice floe wasn’t super boring ig

[dark kiln]

well it was very nice

[unkempt wagon]

And it just disappeared? When?

[dark kiln]

after this remodel

cygnus remodel i mean

aerolympics n shit

[unkempt wagon]

Ah ok

[unkempt wagon]

Wait did the Aerolympics park overwrite where it was?

[dark kiln]

no

it was like next to it

ish

[unkempt wagon]

Oh yeah originally

[dark kiln]

it was added in the OG cygnus remodel

then removed after this most recent one

[unkempt wagon]

So now Cygnuts is just the ice runway and the base?

[dark kiln]

august 21st hahaha

[dark kiln]

basically

[unkempt wagon]

Thats really boring

[dark kiln]

thats why everyone is suggesting stuff

its so boring now

[unkempt wagon]

And why would there be a base there, it’s not even the furthest north point on the map

[dark kiln]

i mean its on a smaller ice sheet

but thats about it

[unkempt wagon]

That’s even worse

[dark kiln]

cygnus aerolympics is

i can do a quick flight to it

[unkempt wagon]

Yeah but I meant for research n shit

[dark kiln]

and show you

[unkempt wagon]

Oki

[dark kiln]

yes true id like another research base

i suggested stuff similar many ages ago

one was one of those soviet floating ice sheet research bases

yk the ones

and another was the antarctic snow cruiser with a makeshift runway

on some random iceberg

[unkempt wagon]

Like the idea behind Cygnuts is that it was arctic research on the furthest point north on the map, and then it had the detailed skeleton and Tusk-Arora as funky Easter eggs

[dark kiln]

neither seen by many

[dark kiln]

yeah most of that was ruined

[unkempt wagon]

That’s really sad

[dark kiln]

thats what i said

[unkempt wagon]

Like, that… really feels like disrespecting the old Cygnuts and enok

Cygnus’ uniqueness had really slowly been drained away thanks to the other airports in Aska and such

And the Aerolympics stuff ruined the approach path for one side of the airport

Plus the Aerolympics stuff in general felt a bit tone deaf to leave in place

Like, it was a cool thing to leave around for the winter, but it really should’ve been relocated sooner

Anyways

I want mammoth back :(

[dark kiln]

pretty much

me too

i wanna contribute more scenery stuff

i love looking for scenery

[unkempt wagon]

See the base issue is Roblox limitations

[dark kiln]

yeah

[unkempt wagon]

And the scenery crew really don’t like the idea of splitting the map into multiple parts

Plus I’m 99% sure Hyant denied it?

[dark kiln]

hyant?

you mean hyperant?

ah

and whatd he deny

[unkempt wagon]

Not important. What is important is that Roblox as an engine and sever platform is basically pushed to the limit with Aeronautica

[unkempt wagon]

Having the map be in several parts, each part as a separate game you teleport to. Sort of like Shipping lanes Northern Isles vs Mainland

[dark kiln]

i REALLY want more stuff with this big ass continent

secret airports

whatever

[dark kiln]

ohhh ik what you mean

[unkempt wagon]

There might be? I have never checked.

[dark kiln]

i have

just another one of those weird monolith things

and some weird like

galaxy egg

at the tail end

[unkempt wagon]

What is this? KSP? /s

[dark kiln]

lol maybe

[unkempt wagon]

Yeah iirc the scenery devs were like “Hell nah” because keeping track of all the maps and such would be a massive pain. Switching workspaces, importing into different places, keeping track of different parts, etc. Even though that complexity is basically what Gen 2 liveries did to livery creation anyways
Plus tons of limitations like switching into other airports on other maps, making the transition as seamless as possible when flying, general clunkiness, etc.

[dark kiln]

this is all that cygnus is now

[dark kiln]

i see

[unkempt wagon]

That’s fucked.
Like, it’s not bad but good lord is that boring

[dark kiln]

this is about the only bit of scenery

besides all this

[unkempt wagon]

It’s so unremarkable when we already have tomfoolery

[dark kiln]

exactly

[unkempt wagon]

So they… spent the resources on penguins, but adding a mammoth and some polar bears instead was too much memory use…?

[dark kiln]

yk something i want?

[dark kiln]

idfk

imma be 100% with you

i have no idea

one thing that i want tho

[unkempt wagon]

My guess is that it was made like that to add more memory overhead for Enok?

[dark kiln]

is like a secret quest

you played DSSIII?

[unkempt wagon]

But then why make the snow drift on the runway sides..?

[unkempt wagon]

Oh god Perseus in Aero would not end well

[dark kiln]

maybe thats what took it all

[dark kiln]

I WANT IT FUCKING BAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

I WANT IT

but anyways

you already know what i want

[unkempt wagon]

Badyacht is bad enough, some of the people here would go fuckin feral if you added something like Perseus

[dark kiln]

perseus was EXACTLY what i want in a game

i know but theres plenty of shit we've done similar

the ARGs on the trello

both of them

i just want some kind of cool thing like that

[unkempt wagon]

See the issue is that people will get angry if it’s as complex as Perseus with an exclusive reward on the end.

[unkempt wagon]

What? You mean the Morse code?
What’s that translate to anyways?

[dark kiln]

obviously less complex

and we do have exclusive badges do we not?

i do get it might cause issues

but i really want something like that

[unkempt wagon]

Yeah I could see that working, if the reward was small and the hardest part was finding the first step rather than trying to piece everything together like Perseus

[dark kiln]

bro doesnt know about halo...

[unkempt wagon]

Or the godforsaken Halo ARG bs

[dark kiln]

nvm you already do

[dark kiln]

its fucking bullshit is what im saying

[unkempt wagon]

I really wonder if anyone’s cracked it. Have you?

[dark kiln]

brother, staff only have

and they flex it on us every chance they get

they lie

they misinform

they tease

its annoying to say the least

everything we think is a lead is just a red herring put in by a dev to troll us

thats why i believe NOTHING they say

the only other cool thing i have to do

is look for shipwrecks

and i have found

[unkempt wagon]

It’s hard to find the first steps, the second step is hard and janky to activate, and then it’s literally fuckin impossible to find the code.

Knowing Jorbunga and how much of an… interesting human he is, I wouldn’t be surprised if he added it to be a troll, and it’s actually just a way to verify credentials of staff for Nautical testing.

[dark kiln]

NONE

[dark kiln]

this has been around for a VERY long time btw

and syntax put it in

since he loves halo

and i do too

but going back on what i was saying before

i brought up something to a scenery dev

[unkempt wagon]

I mean…..
Ever since the Yunno/DSSRP/INRP incident, the staff at DSS have been selected more for their loyalty rather than being good people.

Anyways let’s not get into this can of worms

[unkempt wagon]

It would be fun to have another Tom base

[dark kiln]

wtf went wrong with INRP

i ask this to everyone

they dont give a clear answer

i know it went wrong

but how

[unkempt wagon]

It’s a fuckin loooong story.

TL;DR an overworked(?) Jorbunga went a little cuckoo for cocoapuffs over a 2 block wide river in Minecraft (a pretty harmless grief) and fired a bunch of people that culminated in basically the entire staff team and anyone who sided with them being banned.

I was banned for a while for being a part of INRP until… idk, I guess the 2.0 update?

[dark kiln]

OHH YEAH

[unkempt wagon]

Anyways beside the point

[dark kiln]

I HEARD HE GOT SALTY OVER SOME PEOPLE BEATING HIM IN A FIGHT

and he permabanned them

[unkempt wagon]

(Aka I don’t want to get nuked for talking shit on DSS mod and dev team)

[dark kiln]

fair enough

[unkempt wagon]

Yeah that doesn’t surprise me…
Anyways I think if they added a second TTL site

Like the hangar

For people to find

[dark kiln]

yeah what i was saying

[unkempt wagon]

That would be really fun

[dark kiln]

i asked that scenery dev

for a bunker nested into a bunch of random trees in the middle of bumfuck nowhere

like

NOWHERE

you'd have to be looking for it intentionally to find it

and basically

[unkempt wagon]

Middle of Avalon would be a good spot

[dark kiln]

itd have a barely large enough spot

for a SUPER small aircraft

or aeronautican to fit in

and it was basically like a tiny bunker

like secret military ops base

[unkempt wagon]

It’d say like Bell 47G

[dark kiln]

area 51 type stuff

[dark kiln]

that or a bush plane

you get what i mean tho

[unkempt wagon]

Yeah

[dark kiln]

id like soemthing like that

[unkempt wagon]

Yeah that could be cool

Though also, I feel copying DSS on its badges or quests isn’t a good idea

Stuff like the V2 rocket and other times events SUCK for people in time zones

Like (say) GMT+11

[dark kiln]

yeah...

their timezone is BST

im EST

[unkempt wagon]

Yeah same, and most of those timed events SUCKED

[dark kiln]

fr

id like something relating to V2s or V1s

like maybe a secret V1/V2 launch complex

maybe even a V3 complex

[unkempt wagon]

If you want a game with good Easter eggs, I would say KSP2, Shipping Lanes, and Snowrunner (more specifically how Snowrunner lays out its Upgrades and roads)

[dark kiln]

KSP 2?

i know about some of the easter eggs

but i heard it sucks

and KSP 1 is better

[unkempt wagon]

Yeah, KSP2 has some BANGER Easter eggs.
Only issue was you couldn’t scan for them

[dark kiln]

but ill look into the rest

if theres one thing i LOVE

its searching for things

maybe even things nobody has found before

which is why i like looking for shipwrecks

in DSSIII

[unkempt wagon]

They were much more obvious, and looked much better.

Shipping lanes has the stuff show up on map to an extent, enough to get a rough idea of where to look, without directly showing you what it is.

[dark kiln]

one easter egg i liked in this game

is aether

even tho its gone

(sorta)

[unkempt wagon]

No there is New Aether

[dark kiln]

yes ik

40-50 NM north of rawaki

[unkempt wagon]

But yeah I remember the first time I flew to enok from Avalon and was like “What the heck is that?”

[dark kiln]

lol

[unkempt wagon]

It’s a really cool Easter egg, though I would’ve loved if it was an actual secret airport

[dark kiln]

same

the original one was

i only saw the nuked aether

and i was still a beginner

something odd id like

fortnite-like ingame events

that would lead to an update

like maybe aether launches a counterattack

or something like that

nothing too big

[unkempt wagon]

That could be cool, but hard to pull off in practice.

They might be setting up for that sort of thing tho

[dark kiln]

yes itd be difficult

[unkempt wagon]

“Nothing too big”
Aether counterattack

[dark kiln]

like 5 TU-95 or something bombers

all blow up fiskar

and fiskar is dilapidated and destroyed

n shit

and they establish themselves as an actual threat

but besides that

[unkempt wagon]

Tbh I kinda miss Fiskar being very post-Soviet state that’s still under Russian control esque

[dark kiln]

they got a SHIT ton of lore that just sits there

unused

just to be looked at

like those secret codes

near the beached ship

[unkempt wagon]

Yeah but having participated in LLC, that’s mostly due to dev priorities shifting and changing

[dark kiln]

fair enough

[unkempt wagon]

The Aero devs are very fluid, they seem to only be required to complete stuff they already signed up for/agreed to

[dark kiln]

ok

one thing im looking forward to

[unkempt wagon]

There isn’t a super defined “This comes first, then this” unless it’s like VTOL or some other critical game feature the other thing needs to function.

It’s more “what’s ready first”
Sort of similar to how Valve used to operate

[dark kiln]

the HMS habakkuk that aussie is making

or made

idk

[dark kiln]

yeah i get it

seems easy

for them at least

[unkempt wagon]

It has its strengths and drawbacks.

Less stress on the team but also means updates take longer and are less focused

Unless it’s specific like the Avalon updates

[dark kiln]

fair

[hasty bramble]

real

new air force base

[hasty bramble]

where ribcage and the mammoth

[pure shuttle]

no

it was removed after enoksen remodel

[dark kiln]

yes it was added during the first cygnus remodel

then removed

for this one

[pure shuttle]

these mfs copied crates and advanced customiz

[pure shuttle]

oh

you mean added

[dark kiln]

yes

[pure shuttle]

they built an entire fcking village there

and a ship building thing

village didnt really fit there tbh

[hasty bramble]

how did they copy crates

[hasty bramble]

this is nautica isn't it

[pure shuttle]

yes it is

it is being developed by DSS devs

[unkempt wagon]

Wow, that’s gonna suck to hunt for.

Crates are only good in Aero because you have fighters and small craft and numerous spawns nearby crate spawns

[rotund kraken]

The idea of the crates was taken from Stormworks and from Wingz World V which is the game Aeronautica is inspired on and is owned by one of the DSS3 developers

As for the advanced customisation, the idea was taken from a now defunct Roblox game about ships that allowed you to modify a base ship with different components and equipment to your soul's pleasure

[pure shuttle]

nahr is a dev of dss?

[rotund kraken]

No idea who that is, the person I'm talking about is SyntaxConnoisseur, I believe he's the one who owned Wingz World V or an old remaster of it which led to Aeronauticas creation

Take this with a grain of salt though, some details are foggy and I don't remember a lot of stuff

[dark kiln]

why are YOU here

[rotund kraken]

I'm everywhere

[dark kiln]

not true

who are you

i dont know you

[rotund kraken]

Here is the game I'm talking about that led to components being a thing in Nautica if you're interested

https://youtu.be/c_Exp8Qt5gI?si=QA9nzDiyWk0BfW8o

[old dock]

i get really annoyed when remodels are made without respect to the lore actually

we need tusk aroura

[lean sundial]

we need some the of the old enosken remanats back

likes camp Cygnus feels disrespected

[paper meadow]

That too.

Old Camp Cygnus was much better in my opinion.

[hasty bramble]

free tusk aurora

[lean sundial]

fr