#TAXES

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terse flax
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Let me cook: Day 2

Airlines and indivdual have to pay taxes in real life, so why don't you bring this to Aeronautica?

1. Aircraft Taxes

For a new purchased aircraft, a tax (20% is used in this suggestion) should be added to the aircraft. I understand this might slightly inflate the prices, so that here is a more precise plan.

For lower tier planes (GA + SE + ME), taxes should be included in the current price which would still be convenient to newer players.

Remos GX
Base = 750 WP
Tax = 150 WP (+20%)

For higher tier planes (Late Jets, SST, Late Boats Airships, VTOL), taxes should be calculated externally.

Lockheed L-2000
Base = 160,000 WP
Tax = 32,000 WP (+15%)

For Adv. Customization:

Rolls-Royce RB211-524B (Engine)
Base = 2,500 WP
Tax = 500 WP

You get the concept

1.1 Emission Tax

The one suggestion I was about to refer to combusted so let me repeat here

Different fuel creates different rates, which again creates another factor for players to balance price - reward. This links to yesterday's suggestion - #1246932191871500358 .

For example

Biofuel: 7.5% Over Current Pressed Overflight Fee
Jet Fuel (Kerosene / Naphtha): 15% Over Current Pressed Overflight Fee
AvGas (GA): 3% (You are not going anywhere with a GA are you)
...and other fuel that I am too lazy to mention

2. Property Tax

1. Total Aircraft Periodically

For every aircraft owned, some tax has to be paid periodically. (In this section I will be using the "scrap price" as example, which is 10% of the total plane's price)

John Doe's Inventory
Remos GX = 90 WP
Antonov An-2 = 400 WP
Cessna 172 = 140 WP

2. Base on your Cash + WP count

For your currently owned money, you would be periodically charged tax.

Jane Doe's Balance
Cash = 3,369,420
WP = 2,358,132

Deducted: $336,942 + 235,813 WP (Please round this down)
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3. Airline Tax - A part on "Airline Mechanics"

All people have to contribute to a 3 month timer - One that scale with amount of members - but of course, inactive people would be a problem, so this could be implemented with the airline update.

For example, each member has to contribute 2,500 WP to fulfill the requirment of keeping the airline running. This gives a purpose to airlines, and an incentive for people to attempt to keep the airline up.

That's pretty much it, if you have opinions please be structured and a constructive one.

sturdy turret
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i don't care who the IRS sends but i am NOT paying taxes

gloomy scroll
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you sound really fucking british rn

warm bronze
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clarence tea party when

rare monolith
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no

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the aircraft purchase tax is basically just inflating the price of every aircraft in the game, for no reason whatsoever

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the overflight fee would discourage exploration

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the property tax is just no zazu

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imagine quitting the game for a few months and you come back to negative balance

terse flax
warm bronze
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how about we just dont

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👍

rare monolith
warm bronze
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whats the point of taxes other than making the game unnecessarily more difficult for no apparent reason

terse flax
terse flax
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it goes to no one

rare monolith
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then it's utterly pointless zazu

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whether my remos costs 1k WP or 800 WP and 200 tax

terse flax
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WE NEED MORE SINKS

rare monolith
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it's all the same

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it's LITERALLY THE SAME

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1000 WP go into the void, in both cases

terse flax
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2nd AND 3rd POINT

warm bronze
rare monolith
terse flax
terse flax
warm bronze
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YES IT IS

terse flax
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you cant have negative wp

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even after 100 iterations

stable venture
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WP sinks for the very rich.

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🤔

rare monolith
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"yes, please take away my hard earned wp" said noone ever

warm bronze
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taxes are literally a penalty for being successful

rare monolith
terse flax
rare monolith
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yea

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AFAIK they're not happy to pay them

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people pay taxes because taxes fund the government

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and the government uses those funds to keep themselves in power

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which, in a democracy, consists of helping their people

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the thing is

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aero's economy is not zero sum

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WP can be created (aircraft jobs) or erased (dealership purchasing)

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so taxes aren't needed in aeronautica

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once you remove that societal need, taxes are just an annoying hassle

rare monolith
terse flax
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give me and ill iterate for tomorrow

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suggesting daily

rare monolith
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dw i can make the suggestion

terse flax
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k

silent bolt
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I read through the entire thing, and while I get the idea of having money sinks, this is not a good way to do it

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also regarding emission tax

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how are you even supposed to control what type of fuel you refuel with?

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don't tell me you're going to use the fuel tanks on the ground

rare monolith
silent bolt
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that is not a good way, and will quite literally leave some airports deserted once people find the meta

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also, I'm pretty sure you can't mix fuel types and expect everything to be fine

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which is very likely to happen especially for people who job chain

sonic rover
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taxation is used to keep people poor thus have little power or influence

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governments irl use bonds and money printing which they borrow against to fund themselves to fund a lot of what they do

terse flax
rare portal
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@terse flax are you British

random hedge
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can we add the option to evade taxes

silent bolt
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idk, maybe set your hub to Monaco whenever that feature is added?

random hedge
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whats the monaco equivalent in aero?

rare monolith
unkempt tree
random hedge
turbid wigeon
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Surprising that you're suggesting taxes for so many things but not for trading, where they would actually fit somewhat

gloomy scroll
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i dont wanna be stressing over taxes in a plane game

turbid wigeon
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I don't agree with any of the above ideas

gloomy scroll
turbid wigeon
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Trading taxes are the only thing that has been discussed before, but don't worry there's no plans for them

gloomy scroll
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ok thank you

turbid wigeon
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Yet

gloomy scroll
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btw

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when will OSS lernivo move again

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and will it

turbid wigeon
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Dunno

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I don't even know who moves it

gloomy scroll
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ok

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will there ever be a new continent? there are some open spaces on the map

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last question

random hedge
meager violet
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I’m not paying taxes in a game

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Stupid idea

rare monolith
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it's the only type of tax that I'd see fitting in aero

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and it's also the most infuriating feature to ever exist in a video game

kind hazel
brisk plover
brisk plover
tawdry scaffold
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This is aeronautica not Econonautica/Taxnautica

heady wagon
fallow verge
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The point of video games is to escape reality.

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If you will add Taxes, people will probably kinda dislike the game

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As it includes something from real life that noone really likes either

tender plinth
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tax in aero is crazy

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income tax

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purchase tax

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fuel tax

zenith frigate
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The aeronautica revolution

wind gull
zenith frigate
shrewd grove
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Comeon guys upvote it so that we can commit tax evasion legally 🤓

vagrant birch
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guys vote "yes" so we can have a tax to evade

uncut mica
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this shit being "Quality of life" should be an international crime

tawdry scaffold
burnt sedge
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Woah there Sheldon Cooper not everyone wants to do their taxes

zinc otter
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We all know what happends to games when they include taxes

dreamy geyser
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just do tax evasion. trolley

zinc otter
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im not sayin any names but...||Bloxburg||

dreamy geyser
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I never played that in a while, they seriously did that?

zinc otter
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and now its the most hated update on roblox

brisk plover
floral parcel
mental sand
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EVADE TAXES

dusty lichen
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Think of it like this: Taxes are already included in the aircraft purchase, like it should. Gosh, I hate it when you realize you don’t have enough money because of tax. Also, I like paying in integers. Not in decimals.

fair pond
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yk what I count as taxes? Me crashing or flying

lethal crown
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please stop.

brisk plover
obsidian oyster
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What tax do?

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Since tax normally used for benefits

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Like infrastructure and stuff

icy bronze
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You're not allowed to cook again

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This is what ur cooking rn

rare monolith
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idk why we're obsessed with money sinks tbh

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if you don't get enjoyment in thing such as :

  • the act of flying itself
  • community interactions
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nothing will keep you from eventually growing bored

lethal crown
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never ever suggest again

mental sand
rare monolith
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they are

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that's why i disagree with this suggestion

mossy niche
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who let blud cook

obsidian oyster
kind hazel
steep idol
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Let's say I am doing SAR job and range of it was covering the change of tax region. If tax system has added, I will have to pay tax every time I cross border, right? Then, SAR job costs a lot for tax.

terse flax
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ok i realise this is bad

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but what about #1246932191871500358 swag

tawdry scaffold
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Both is:

rare monolith
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would kinda kill exploration

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imagine playing a flight sim, the epitome of freedom in a simulation

terse flax
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no one explores in this game

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lets be real

rare monolith
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what do people play this game for

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if not for flying rogiga

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ig you could say the economy, but if you do no flying whatsoever it sounds kinda lame

rare monolith
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is a feature that directly discourages the main feature of the game - flying a plane

terse flax
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ok tf happened to this

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tawdry scaffold
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You flew around doing job pretty much exploring at the same time

rare monolith
terse flax
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others

mossy niche
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chill guys

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its not a bad idea inherently its just not the right way to go about it lol

rare monolith
mossy niche
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money sinks need to be something interesting for the player not just black holes imo

rare monolith
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but as zach said within that thread, it would either be super popular or die after 5 minutes

terse flax
rare monolith
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schrödinger's feature

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we may never know until it's implemented

uncut mica
heady hamlet
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no

crimson umbra
lethal crown
unkempt tree
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why is fly here trolley

terse flax
static stump
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mods can we kill this guy

unkempt tree
terse flax
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if my suggestion is that bad i would take that suggestion ban

unkempt tree
terse flax
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i thought this game is supposed to have realistic economic parts

unkempt tree
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well sometimes trolley

terse flax
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should i cook up another suggestion

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money related

rare monolith
silent moss
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wow increase prices by 10%

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engaging

errant shoal
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Why not just increase the prices if you need it, since no one is getting those taxes anyway technically.

turbid wigeon
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We don't need to increase prices

gloomy scroll
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its important

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sorry for pinging you btw

tawdry scaffold
uncut mica
kind hazel
mossy stag
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no

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Just no

lusty escarp
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@floral granite ALBERT MOMENT ALBERT MOMENT

errant shoal
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Why is this not rejected yet?

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If we're getting a tax update, add in bulldozers too.

warm bronze
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Komatsu D355A with armor

uncut mica
floral granite
sturdy flumeBOT
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FahmiRBLX (🕊HighAdmiral)┃9M-SOX is AFK: class - 2 hours ago

floral granite
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Nobody ain't beating you when everyone else's race is over from the start

turbid wigeon
lusty escarp
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Dang

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If Albert was here he'd be banned on the spot

gloomy scroll
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do these lead to anything

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fallow verge
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And show us

gloomy scroll
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wym

fallow verge
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If these are classified military documents, post them pn the wt furom

gloomy scroll
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i can tell you where they are

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if you wanna do something with them

kind hazel
gloomy scroll
rare monolith
gloomy scroll
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beached on that black area with the volcanic ash?

rare monolith
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nope

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i'll go check tho

gloomy scroll
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this area

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besides the point

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theres a beached cargo ship there

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with terragroup crates spilled out all over the beach

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next to one of those crates is the paper

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the papers*

random hedge
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can i rob it

gloomy scroll
random hedge
gloomy scroll
random hedge
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can you rob it for me

gloomy scroll
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gotchu vro

rare monolith
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i went there

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it looks pretty cool

gloomy scroll
rare monolith
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after going there and looking at them very close

image.png
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there's nothing sad

gloomy scroll
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yes

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andrew said it was part of a terragroup ARG

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that led to nothing

turbid wigeon
gloomy scroll
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idk where it is though

turbid wigeon
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What does this have to do with taxes though

gloomy scroll
turbid wigeon
gloomy scroll
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no taxes though

turbid wigeon
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Filling up posts for nothing

gloomy scroll
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so thats a good thing

gloomy scroll
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i aint gonna just straight ping you

turbid wigeon
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Next time #1179087634870571018

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You did straight ping me. I don't mind but keep it in appropriate places

gloomy scroll
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as i feel like doing so would have the same effect as someone pinging hyperant

turbid wigeon
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Thats fine lol

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I don't have issues with pings as long as theres some reason for it

gloomy scroll
obtuse grotto
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Taxes

brisk plover
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Taxes!!!!

next meteor
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Stupid taxes

foggy pendant
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My American senses are tingling

tawdry scaffold
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This one got denied for now

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Mod lock this

fair pond
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fanum tax

floral granite
lusty escarp
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My man half-cooked

floral granite
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So he is correct in saying that all governments are corrupt

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Just that

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You should question on many times people within the government are corrupt

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How many times when the governments were corrupt

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@lusty escarp in the grand scheme of things, the US and Europe tend to have minimal corruption

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And then.... Well ima just end it here because it's getting a bit too political

timber jasper
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I only support a capital gains tax on trades

lusty escarp
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While im cooking up the ultimate avenge against Cobalt & Kern for what they did to Lynx & CDAG ||(in which i still won't be aligned with them)||

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||and tell both who's the boss||

fallow verge
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It got Denied

fossil mango
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Hell no

steady gazelle
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taxes??