#Move Defiant and raider to VTOL's and add VTOL modes to it.
coral pecan
I think it is an actual helicopter (I have no idea what would happen if it loses the main rotors)
faint vector
I think it is an actual helicopter (I have no idea what would happen if it loses...
It would crash
As tail rotors are pretty much boosters
You can’t fly with them
coral pecan
So it doesn't make enough propulsion
final cloak
the best way to determine if an aircraft can have STOVL capabilities
you gotta ask
can I take off with only the forward propulsion?
if yes, then STOVL
if no, then not STOVL
in this case, you can't take off with only the rear prop
dusky sky
You can’t fly with them
i mean it can be VTOL bcs they flying with main rotors
in aeronautica back rotor didnt give smth
its ust a plane's settings
but with VTOL mode it will fly like in RL
they didnt flying only with back rotor, they using main rotor too
faint vector
they didnt flying only with back rotor, they using main rotor too
they do not use rear rotor for flying, it's for boost only
dusky sky
can i send link on video>?
faint vector
can i send link on video>?
i know how Defiant works
dusky sky
they do not use rear rotor for flying, it's for boost only
i mean in RL
faint vector
RL meaning real life?
faint vector
i'm aware of that as well
dusky sky
they activating(or how to say it) rear rotor for boost
setting max throttle
and it can be VTOL mode
bcs its near it
faint vector
and it can be VTOL mode
by that logic every helicopter should be VTOL
dusky sky
the design of these mechanics is different, but the idea is the same - vertical take-off and horizontal flight
faint vector
but they arent, they're helicopters
dusky sky
by that logic every helicopter should be VTOL
no
faint vector
and Defiant with Raider are just having compound layout giving them more speed
dusky sky
i mean only heli with rear rotor
faint vector
what we replicated by setting top speed really high
faint vector
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if you point it into too high it would stall, you know why?
because it's a helicopter
it's not plane
and it can't fly as VTOL
dusky sky
hmmm
you're right
but what if you add it to VTOL and save it max alt
(near 10k)
it will not change anything
it will be same heli, but with "VTOL" mode
again its not a VTOL, but near it
high ivy
faint vector
but what if you add it to VTOL and save it max alt
it would still gain that alt until 10k unrealistically for it being VTOL
it can't fly conventionally
dusky sky
it can't fly conventionally
i'm not a dev, but i think my idea are really good, bcs as i said earlier they flying are same as VTOL
i know about some problems with it, but idk how it cannot work with VTOL physics
faint vector
the fact they're being boosted by rear prop doesn't mean they flying same as VTOL
dusky sky
the fact they're being boosted by rear prop doesn't mean they flying same as VTO...
yes, it can be like you said
but when they flying they going like a plane
faint vector
they're not
dusky sky
rear rotor giving speed, main rotor working like a wings(idk how it name)
faint vector
which makes it being not like VTOL?
cuz there's no wings, rudders, elevators, or any other plane control surfaces that makes it VTOL?
dusky sky
which makes it being not like VTOL?
its a heli with horizontal rotor
dusky sky
cuz there's no wings, rudders, elevators, or any other plane control surfaces th...
it can fly im vertical and horzontal modes
same as VTOL
faint vector
its a heli with horizontal rotor
exactly, it's not a VTOL
faint vector
same as VTOL
again, they're using different principles for flight
dusky sky
exactly, it's not a VTOL
but working same as VTOL
faint vector
anyway, denied
dusky sky
if you add to VTOL vertical and horizontal engines it will be smth near defiant or raider
dusky sky
if you add to VTOL vertical and horizontal engines it will be smth near defiant ...
@faint vector
(sry for ping)
faint vector
if you add to VTOL vertical and horizontal engines it will be smth near defiant ...
as i said, it's denied and i gave enough reasons and explanations why
dusky sky
as i said, it's denied and i gave enough reasons and explanations why
i gave u all reasons why it need to be VTOL
and it was all reasons what can be in this situation
final cloak
i gave u all reasons why it need to be VTOL
the problem is all those reasons are outright wrong
The defiant and raider cannot be given VTOL coding because they can't behave like say, a Harrier
dusky sky
the problem is all those reasons are outright wrong
why?
final cloak
it can fly im vertical and horzontal modes
Any helicopter can do that
A STOVL aircraft has wings
dusky sky
Any helicopter can do that
no it cannot fly in horizontal mode
final cloak
have you seen a helicopter before
dusky sky
they turning down they nose and increasing speed by it
final cloak
collective isn't the only thing that helis have you sweet summer child
dusky sky
***have you seen a helicopter before***
you will die after this answer: yes.
dusky sky
collective isn't the only thing that helis have you sweet summer child
i'm not a child :/
final cloak
its a heli with horizontal rotor
So? It just makes it a helicopter that happens to be faster
faint vector
I'm just gonna leave this here before leaving alr
final cloak
It's still a Heli and is to be treated as such
dusky sky
So? It just makes it a helicopter that happens to be faster
now say me: how its flying not like as a heli?
faint vector
because it's a COMPOUND helicopter
dusky sky
its flying like a plane
faint vector
it doesn't make it VTOL PLANE
final cloak
THE ROTORS ARE PROVIDING LIFT
faint vector
because helicopter by DEFINITION already are VTOLs
dusky sky
...
faint vector
but as VTOL PLANE it's not elligible
dusky sky
ok, i got u
steep river