Boat Nerf

[minor trench]

You're just being worried for nothing, it's not like they're going to end up like airships

Planes are faster obviously, and thus they're more engaging, so boats are in no position to overtake them despite what a whole long line of ships going from point A to point B shows

[ruby gulch]

I'm sure there's other people with the same concern who also voiced it ingame too

But I'l let it be based on interpretation

[minor trench]

Plane users still outnumber boat users though

[forest star]

The meta and endgame has been surveillance and will be surveillance for some time

[minor trench]

Take into account the fact that boats don't even have unique jobs yet

[ruby gulch]

At some point in the near past though I did see there are more boat users than plane users

[minor trench]

If that was back when boats were first introduced then that makes sense

[forest star]

No, it’s just the boat icons being bigger than plane icons and them being denser since boats only operate on water

[severe needle]

Aeronautica is a recreation (edit: or a successor) of wingz world and wingz world had ships

I agree adding obstacles against boats but I very much disagree on discouraging players to use ships

[cobalt dome]

id say that 50% -80% of the player base have ADHD

[severe needle]

yes from me

this true

[minor trench]

No matter how much you want this, it's never happening lmao

There's a charm to having vast, open oceans and continually adding new islands would just ruin that

All for the sake of cucking boat users, really?

[severe needle]

I just want them to turn altleast once than just going in a straight line to the destination but that's just my opinion or somethin

[minor trench]

I just want boats to completely die so boat users stop playing the game

Don't get me wrong, I'm primarily a plane user, but if people just wanna enjoy boats, let them be

[severe needle]

e

[severe needle]

The obstacle that I just thought of against the boats are just some floating trash islands, it only slows big boats down, nothing is damaging them but the problem would be the speed in floating point areas

to afk players, the trash islands are nothing to them

irl, it would more likely stop the small boats from moving

[minor trench]

That's gonna be the entire ocean in like 50 years or so

[severe needle]

It also would be an interesting new job for cleaning boats lol

[severe needle]

definitely

[severe needle]

Another "trash" that does the same thing against the boats but smol in aero

[tender yew]

just no

completely no

i just did boat training

now bought a boat

no fracking way ur gonna nerf it now

[south ocean]

you sure..?

I doubt the pieces of trash could stop the propellers

[severe needle]

nets and ropes (also plastics?) could, it's still possible

for big ships it's probably nothing to em

https://youtube.com/shorts/qUbN0NFb21Y?feature=shared

that trash island idea popped out after I remembered this https://youtube.com/shorts/qUbN0NFb21Y?feature=shared

Saying that towards small boats, not the big ones

I was thinking that the propellers of some small boats are weak

it would be interesting to see a job in Aero that removes risks for other players

trash cleaning/Icebreaking jobs

e

[cold salmon]

[weak cloud]

3 day chain, christ

[cobalt dome]

What route?

[arctic frigate]

actually wait that’s not that crazy…

[winter coral]

this is literally what I'm talking about, for a boat to make this much wp is uncanny. espicially since it's an afk vehicle

[worldly zinc]

i hate boats we should do this

[cobalt dome]

What route?

Dm me it

[ruby gulch]

Those islands don't always need to litter every empty parts of the ocean, it just needs to be at the apparent meta ship routes.

[ruby gulch]

This

But keep in mind airships are also AFK vehicles, except you AFK-grind only WP with it

[minor trench]

Don't you think you guys are just paying too much attention to boats despite the fact that the majority of the playerbase won't even fuck with them

[minor trench]

Boats can grind WP too wdym

[ruby gulch]

They grind BP tho

[minor trench]

WP

[ruby gulch]

Have they reversed the BP change or do boats grind both WP & BP?

[ruby gulch]

Doubt that, the veterans in the server sure won't give a fuck about boats, but those normies coming from the Roblox page will use boats eventually.

[minor trench]

Boats also earn WP, where did you get the idea that they can't

[minor trench]

You're wrong

Boats are slow, and a lot of new players won't bother with boats because of that

You're just overblowing the whole boat issue

[ruby gulch]

You can say that if you can guarantee 100% (yes I'm talking 100%) players actually taxi properly, didn't skip tutorials & avoids every single shit that bothers veteran players.

I.e The prinlem is there's drooling kids with iPads playing the game

[minor trench]

Yes and you're incorrect in assuming they'll actually prefer to use boats over planes

[ruby gulch]

And when people like them play this game, they're expecting to grind ingame currency.

Boats make the the most out of all vehicle categories per job & as someone who expects this to be a plane game, I have a reason ti be concerned.

[minor trench]

No they don't

[ruby gulch]

Yes they will.

[minor trench]

This is just doomspeak, boats aren't going to kill the game

[ruby gulch]

The economy needs to be gone if that needs to happen.

[minor trench]

I've literally said many times that plane users heavily outnumber boat users

A kid who wants to get money fast will make the logical choice to use planes over boats

[ruby gulch]

I've said this many times I've seen a busy boat route when BP was first added.

Boats will change the game. In a bad way.

[minor trench]

So remove boats?

[ruby gulch]

Radical me would say

[marsh wasp]

nuh uh

[ruby gulch]

Yes.

But

[minor trench]

You're still wrong though

My point about kids wanting to earn money fast still stands

[marsh wasp]

Northern would say:

No.

[ruby gulch]

A bit fairer side of me would say, keep boats but tell them not to AFK in one way or another.

[minor trench]

They will 100% see boats as a waste of time because of how slow they go

[ruby gulch]

This is the reason why I never embrace Northernism smfh

[minor trench]

Northern would say

[marsh wasp]

NORTHERISM

[minor trench]

"cope, seethe, mald"

[ruby gulch]

You've proven my point.

Boats make more money per job.

[minor trench]

and then a boat nerf besides maybe reducing the amount just a teeny tiny bit will never happen

[minor trench]

Per-job, yes, but if you factor in the time needed to complete those jobs, planes will still outshine them

The mindset of a general player would be inclined towards faster times

But anyways I'm certain the devs have had enough of a few people complaining about how 'OP' boats are

[marsh wasp]

Theres no way to prove if youre AFK or not, maybe kicking if a click is on the same location multiple times? but that wont work as you can just use multiple click locations on the autoclicker

[ruby gulch]

[marsh wasp]

But that would destroy the whole point of boats, and noone would really using boats if there was a change

[ruby gulch]

What I meant is by indirectly 'punishing' AFK behaviour by... that island chain/obstacles.

[marsh wasp]

because EVERYONE AFKs when boating.

[ruby gulch]

That's what OP wants.

[ruby gulch]

That's my concern.

I've seen people beaching at Tikaranto & Leovetsk, and probably somewhere around Kyokkou

[marsh wasp]

but noone will boat anymore

[minor trench]

Let them be, it's just funny to see them oversleep and realize they've missed their angle

[marsh wasp]

ngl, agreed

[ruby gulch]

I mean they will technically do boating still, on a few occasions.

[minor trench]

I don't understand why people are also insistent on adding obstacles, do we really have to copy DSS3

[ruby gulch]

Like celebrating or photo ops & shit

[marsh wasp]

But much less.

[ruby gulch]

We've seen that with planes already, only a few became 'metas' & get used for flying jobs

The X-3 Stilleto is so shit no one uses it

Except probably me occasonally to move around airports while grinding a bit of WP

[minor trench]

If you're going to consider a certain plane shit then you're going to have to have selective basis

[ruby gulch]

The peeps ingame admitted the X-3 is shit?

I checked the jobs for it in Eisenhardt. What jobs can it do? None.

[minor trench]

The peeps ingame admitted the X-3 is shit

This is honestly a poor metric to use

[ruby gulch]

Give me an example of a job the X-3 can do.

[minor trench]

It can do air races for sure

[ruby gulch]

Sluggish to turn

[minor trench]

Haven't tested it but eh

[ruby gulch]

Haven't tested it but eh

"This is honestly a poor metric to use"

[minor trench]

I mean you don't necessarily listen to what other people say, you're better off testing it yourself

That's kind of how you form an opinion

[ruby gulch]

I bought it already, 99% of the time I kept it in Eisenhardt gping nowhere

[minor trench]

You know you can use the aircraft database right

It shows jobs if you do mouse over text

So if you want a specific plane then you'll be able to find out stuff

[ruby gulch]

I once got it on Eisen-Meihua to join a formation flight that starts in Meihua, I had to do multiple refueling stops & almost missedbthe formation.

[ruby gulch]

I had my X-3 for the sake of moving between airports as fast as possible, I didn't really intend to use it for a job or anything, but from my own experience of using it my verdict is it's shit.

And other people agreed with it.

[severe needle]

boats are slow...

I can just easily earn more wp in a hypermach than those boats

[modest prism]

We have no reason to worry about boats afking. It's a waste of time and effort. There are more pressing issues such as chaining not working properly, or the lack of unique jobs.

[winter coral]

the part of the playerbase that does use them will get a ton of wp and tbh, it's not fair for the people who are actively grinding something like pts or ghr

[winter coral]

airships have already been nerfed a lot

[dry gale]

I think that the job max limits should be reworked

Coz like I've seen Corporate jobs with like a max capacity limit of a 100+ when the largest corporate job only has 21 capacity (i think)

then u have like the opposite end of the spectrum

where some event jobs are like way too short of a distance or have a max capacity limit in the single digits

[versed sierra]

Unique jobs really are mostly pathetic.

[dry gale]

very

[versed sierra]

Range should be more generous tbh.

And payout

[dry gale]

I have to hop servers so much to find a job thats actually worth doing

[dry gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831867173269012541/1205234388858699817/image.png?ex=6605c57e&is=65f3507e&hm=348b1cba4434b3568c2105dfb22ec10e7875655619bd35c67fc6fd4bb12b0ac4&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

This is good, we need more of this

this isn't

who the hell is flying 20km bruh

thats like

5mins

maybe even less lmao

[versed sierra]

Is riziere even in 20 km?

[dry gale]

dont know

jobs need to have their max range increased imo

[versed sierra]

Also, the problem is, 2.25x

For a job that short?

[dry gale]

yeah 2.25x is pathetic

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831867173269012541/1201379959999053966/image.png?ex=660a34c7&is=65f7bfc7&hm=68ea4186679ed8ab8e379e95491fe7871cb649f852e90ce9b1a7baecd690561b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

this is good

[versed sierra]

3x atleast tbh, scale the entire thing up

I mean, thats actually good, if a bit lowish payout. 39 is not far below the max cap of airport

[dry gale]

It's good enough for me

I just look for long distances

coz I fly commerical airliners

and the only sort of way I get WP is through event jobs

albeit not much

like maybe 40-50k/hr

I miss flying those orange event jobs

and those long range blue event jobs

now whenever I see one it's usually only like 200km

back then there used to be like 300km+++ jobs really often

I remember flying the an225 for like 30mins with like 6 other dudes doing an orange event jobs

[versed sierra]

Wait, an 225 on orange event?

[dry gale]

yeah

some nuclear job thingy iirc

we took off from meihua

cant remember where we landed

but it was a 30min flight

like 4 jets intercepted us

trying to find a screenshot

cant find it

but it exists

i remember pinging my friend to get him to do the job with a c17

cant find it

[pseudo abyss]

I mean usually a 100 nm heli job takes like 30-60min, so you can afk during then

[dry gale]

event jobs need to be buffed

🙏

[pseudo abyss]

Prob the main thing about active chain/ jobs vs passive low effort chain is that people often are not able to actively do those jobs for the entire time the ships are chaining, so if over time ships do earn more aggregate income

Plus the ship multiplier continually increases

Such as like a moderate 36 hour job chain is maybe like 100k per hour for all those 36 hours

[dry gale]

I think just nerf chain multiplier for boats and fix the damage

maybe instead of increasing by 0.1x per chain its 0.05x

and with the damaged fixed week long chains wont be a thing

since people have to actually repair

or their ship just sinks or smth

[ancient marsh]

this.
it is a non-issue to begin with, as the ships most viable for chaining are already endgame content; the people running them already have a such surplus of WP the realistic economic impact is negligible

[winter coral]

that's the same with almost every job, even planes. but boats are more used for afk because they can go for 6+ hours without you having to constantly check

[winter coral]

it isn't an issue, but the amount of wp it makes is uncanny and unfair. people who are grinding surveillance, pts, or ghr (which actually takes some amount of skill and effort) do not earn anywhere close to what these boats are getting you (keep in mind you can't afk for hours at a time while doing these jobs)

ships being used for afk is a feature, that isn't the problem

it's the amount of wp that it gives which is the issues

if chaining is removed, boats can retain their stats and you can get around 600k wp per night, which is still really good

[ancient marsh]

well that kinda defeats the anti-afk part of some peeps argument doesnt it, as that literally makes boats a one trick pony - something you leave on when you get eepy at which point why bother even

[nimble sonnet]

maybe i'm the only one

and i'll be burned to the stake for it

but i feel like the staleness of gameplay is a serious and important balance factor for boats

[winter coral]

I have never been advocating for anti-afk, I think anti-afk completely ruins the purpose of the game

[winter coral]

you can say that for pretty much every plane doing long haul flights

[ancient marsh]

thats pretty much aeronautica excluding recon fighters and ssts

[winter coral]

exactly, so it can't really be used as a balance factor

and plus, most people are sleeping during long boat trips

you aren't sleeping during plane trips

[nimble sonnet]

no

SST chaining, surveillance, pts, races

those are relatively engaging activities

they can get repetitive, but not truly boring

[winter coral]

they are not engaging

and I said long haul, so pts and racing are excluded from that

[nimble sonnet]

boat chaining has you follow a map and watch a static screen for hours, or afk for long periods of time

it locks you out of aero gameplay

for days or even weeks

[winter coral]

are you spending most of the time during the chain staring at your screen or doing something else?

[nimble sonnet]

long haul trips on planes can be done as a one off

[nimble sonnet]

probably a little bit of both

[winter coral]

[nimble sonnet]

what do you find fun in aero ?

[winter coral]

so you're spending 50 hours staring at your screen, and 50 hours afk

[nimble sonnet]

chances are you can't do it if you're chaining w/ boats

[winter coral]

good question

[nimble sonnet]

unless your answer is exclusively "the discord server"

in which case

[winter coral]

it definitely isn't this

sometimes discord makes you want to rip out your hair

[ancient marsh]

anyways my point is boat chaining is endgame content, the point at which players should be allowed to enjoy the rewards for reaching. and for the most part the first half day of the chain is active gameplay anyway

[winter coral]

you can't really say that jobs are fun overall

[nimble sonnet]

idk i enjoy myself doing most jobs in aero

except supply drops

they can burn in hell

[winter coral]

even if it's endgame content, it shouldn't be able to earn this much wp, the people who put so much more effort and skill into other jobs don't earn as much

it's not fair for those people

[nimble sonnet]

anyway, boats are probably tremendously low on the scale of enjoyability

[winter coral]

and you may say that the chain is active gameplay in like the first day, but for most of the chain it's afk to earn millions. also you are still afking for around an hour before reaching a destination so it's not really that active

[winter coral]

that doesn't stop them from being overpowered

[nimble sonnet]

i do disagree to some extent
this would mean that the inevitable culmination of a majoritarily aircraft-centered game, is boats

[nimble sonnet]

but i think it should be considered in the question of balance

[ancient marsh]

now i feel like that's subjective

[versed sierra]

I mean, boats part 3, everyone has been saying that it'll be EXPENSIVE

[winter coral]

people who use them are getting huge amounts of wp that people have not gotten throughout like months of playing

[winter coral]

there's no reason for boats to earn that much

you aren't putting effort into it

and over half that time, you aren't even really playing aero

you're doing something else such as sleeping

if you aren't going to be actively playing the game, there's no reason for you to be able to earn more than people who are

and I think that the amount that boats earn for a single overnight trip is balanced because you aren't playing the game, you're sleeping.

but chaining allows you to increase that amount so now sleeping gains you more wp than if you were doing surveillance

[ancient marsh]

and now we circle back again, that's their choice of endgame

[winter coral]

the endgame doesn't matter 💀
there shouldn't be a reason for putting less effort for more money

espicially on this scale

just because you're in the endgame doesn't mean you should have a nearly infinite amount of wp

[nimble sonnet]

if you had to choose between rq-4 and sr-71 for grinding, which one would you pick

[winter coral]

sr-71

[nimble sonnet]

indeed

because the sr-71 is more efficient

there shouldn't be a reason for putting less effort for more money

[mortal sundial]

this still going on? 😭

[nimble sonnet]

there is

it's common sense

[mortal sundial]

how much more is there to talk about that hasn’t already been discussed

[ancient marsh]

yes, this is now general #7 i think

[winter coral]

sr-71 is more efficient, people choose rq-4b because they want to afk

[nimble sonnet]

we're bored, so we fight over lego game balance

[nimble sonnet]

except nobody does choose the RQ-4

[winter coral]

and thing is, sr-71 isn't earning a ton more than rq-4b, but boats are earning a lot more than sr-71

[nimble sonnet]

because there's metas

[winter coral]

people buy rq-4bs for a reason

to use

and people buy things such as e-767

there are people who do surveillance with slower planes

sr-71 just isn't for them

[nimble sonnet]

IMO once people can afford to buy any vehicle in the game, they should have a choice over how they grind

[ancient marsh]

this is waht i've been saying

[nimble sonnet]

if they want to do active gameplay, use more interesting vehicles and activities, they should go for it

[winter coral]

they should, but boats are way more op than every other job

because you don't have time to grind pts and surveillance for hours at a time to match the earning of boats

[nimble sonnet]

if they'd rather earn large amounts passively, to have a larger margin of maneuver afterwards, then they go for it

[ancient marsh]

I have enough of a wp surplus to technically buy whatever i wanted, why should i be stopped from potentially earning more

[winter coral]

because it's unfair to other people for you to be earning this much

[nimble sonnet]

in that regard, i see no difference with the E-767 case you mentioned earlier

some people will gravitate towards the new meta

[winter coral]

you don't think that getting 40 million in a week is stupid?

[nimble sonnet]

others will prefer options that they enjoy employing

why should we intervene ?

[winter coral]

and you aren't putting any effort in this either

[ancient marsh]

and yeah, the chooms who want to grind actively CAN grind actively and probably make more per hour anyways

[winter coral]

if they aren't going to be playing the game you shouldn't be earning that much more than people who are

[ancient marsh]

i dunno i'm letting my pc be a bitcoin miner for babby lego game

[winter coral]

that's not how it works

[nimble sonnet]

those who WANT to grind will hate boats, because they'd rather, well grind
those who NEED to grind will use boats, and then use the leniency afterwards

[winter coral]

you aren't going to be spending 100 hours at your computer to outearn boats

[nimble sonnet]

you can

[winter coral]

if you need wp so badly, you should work for it

[nimble sonnet]

and i bet some people will do it

[ancient marsh]

see thats your bias

[nimble sonnet]

why

[winter coral]

but why would you do that when you can just use boats

[ancient marsh]

"effort"

[winter coral]

because it's not fair to people who do actually work for it

[ancient marsh]

why is it not fair when they have the choice as well

[nimble sonnet]

literally what you told me earlier about the e-767

[ancient marsh]

they chose the gameplay they want

[nimble sonnet]

that

that is the beauty of games such as aero

[ancient marsh]

i chose to have screensaver for a week

[winter coral]

e-767 isn't outearning sr-71 in any way, but boats are outearning other forms of grinding

[nimble sonnet]

in that sense the boats are like the sr-71

PTS/surveillance are like the E-767

you can use the meta

or the method you find more convenient/enjoyable

[winter coral]

that's not how it works, e-767 you get to afk for longer. pts you don't get to afk

[nimble sonnet]

the choice is yours

[winter coral]

that connection doesn't even work

[nimble sonnet]

and it should remain so

[winter coral]

but how much more is sr-71 earning than e-767, it's definitely not millions in around a few hours

[nimble sonnet]

it sure is 4 times more efficient

if basic math applies

closer to 5 actually

[winter coral]

where did you get the 4400 and 900 from
I haven't calculated the earnings so idk

[nimble sonnet]

speeds

i use metric

[winter coral]

ah

[nimble sonnet]

the SR-71 goes ~4400 kmh, the 767 goes ~900

[winter coral]

but then again, you get to afk for longer when using e-767
and the turns are easier due to slower speed and has a longer range

there are many other factors that contribute towards efficiency

[nimble sonnet]

that's why it would probably be closer to 4x

3.5x if you stretch it

[winter coral]

[nimble sonnet]

if the E-767 was the meta, and the SR-71 was added just now, we'd be talking about it right here

ofc it doesn't work like that

[winter coral]

and if we're talking about effort and skill, sr-71 requires more effort and skill

and boats do not

boats are less skill and less effort than pts, racing and surveillance

while e-767 is less skill and less effort than sr-71

[nimble sonnet]

i had made a metaphor

not a CG model

of course if you look at boats carefully you'll find differences between a container ship and a blackbird

[winter coral]

you were trying to make me imply something that I clearly didn't imply

[nimble sonnet]

would you have disagreed if i had said it ?

[winter coral]

to some extent

[open vine]

What pays more? Government or cargo?

[nimble sonnet]

fair

[nimble sonnet]

wdym

[ancient marsh]

which government, what kind of cargo

[nimble sonnet]

military jobs such as PTS and surveillance do earn more than jet airliners

[open vine]

Tomfoolery's government and regular cargo

[nimble sonnet]

which is indeed a problem

but not really the point of that post

[winter coral]

it's balanced that way though, if pts earned less than jet airlines. no one would do it

well, people would do it for fun

but not for earning

[ancient marsh]

and if boats earned less than airliners no one would play them too

[winter coral]

that's not true

[nimble sonnet]

people who own SR-71s and bombers don't do airliner flights

except for fun

[winter coral]

boats are viable as an overnight afk grinder

[ancient marsh]

how do you know thats not true

so you spent millions of wp on a one trick pony for overnighting

[winter coral]

because when boats 2.0 released there were lots of people doing leo-auch

[winter coral]

and you get millions of wp back within a few weeks

but 40 mil in a week is insane

[nimble sonnet]

every new meta is "insane"

[winter coral]

but 40 mil

[cold salmon]

BOTE 3.0

next

[ancient marsh]

what happened to the leo-auch line? its not even there anymore cause people moved on when it was discovered to be inefficient

[cold salmon]

warships

submarines

[ancient marsh]

you think leo-auch woulda happened if boats 2.0 released with the nerfed rates?

[winter coral]

because it's not worth it when you are active, but when you're sleeping it's worth it

[nimble sonnet]

boats are so costly they're pretty much locked off to the extra rich

the one thing that would be concerning is if devs started balancing future game costs around boat chaining

[winter coral]

I'll be back later, I have classes

[ancient marsh]

i doubt it. since as we probably have established, people who boat chain already have stupid amounts of wp

[nimble sonnet]

i'm in class rn

[winter coral]

[nimble sonnet]

[cold salmon]

[ancient marsh]

[cold salmon]

[nimble sonnet]

it's probabilities applied to genetics

if you can draw/read a table you're set

[ancient marsh]

pannett square?

that shit easy

[winter coral]

which is why boat chaining needs to be balanced

people who boat chain get stupid amounts of wp from the boats

[cold salmon]

not tru

idont bote chain

[winter coral]

you used to

[cold salmon]

only once

got only 16m

[winter coral]

which is still a lot

[ancient marsh]

i meant before boat chaining was a thing

[cold salmon]

40m>>>>16m

[upbeat schooner]

you act like thats not a lot

lmao

[cold salmon]

i used everything in buying kanamoris and many other badge planes

i have 1.5m

now

[winter coral]

#trade-den message

🤓

[winter coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1186832703308443708.gif?size=160&name=erm+what+thee+eff

[ancient marsh]

and how much was the bote he used to start chaining?

[cold salmon]

invest

[winter coral]

4m

[ancient marsh]

zamn so he started with 4mil >>> 12mil

his surplus of wp

became a surplus of wp

[winter coral]

they have way more now

[cold salmon]

he bought my yf-23 for 6m

[ancient marsh]

CAUSE ITS FLOCKING*** ENDGAME CONTENT***

[winter coral]

this is how the economy gets ruined

[winter coral]

so what?

[cold salmon]

so 6m when he started 2nd chain

[ancient marsh]

he made his already a shit ton of wp turn into more shit ton of wp

its not like he went from a lvl 1 thug to a lvl 999 mafia boss

[winter coral]

boat chaining is the closest people will get to infinite wp (as of now)
and the endgame is 4m

[cold salmon]

seastar is not endgame

full database is endgame

[ancient marsh]

and so what? the entry point for recon is 28k with the mirage which is like 80% as efficient as the sr-71

[winter coral]

according to @ancient marsh getting a boat should allow you to get tons of wp

[ancient marsh]

getting a 4 mil boat

yes

that was my point ever since

[nimble sonnet]

sr-71 can be refunded the day you get it, easily

[winter coral]

so having a simple boat should allow you to break the market?

[nimble sonnet]

boats without chaining are upwards of 60 hours to refund their own price

[winter coral]

and surveillance takes effort

[nimble sonnet]

yes, i know

[ancient marsh]

huh? its a 4mil boat

[nimble sonnet]

it's afk time

[winter coral]

exactly

[winter coral]

you can get around 40mil wp from 1 chain

[nimble sonnet]

but boat chaining kinda does as well

[winter coral]

no it doesn't 💀

[nimble sonnet]

with how janky the chain mecanics are

[ancient marsh]

takes a week of patience and dealing with jank

bu-bu-but you're afk

[winter coral]

you aren't even at your computer half that time

[ancient marsh]

so?

[winter coral]

so you shouldn't be making that much

[ancient marsh]

does my time grinding the 4mil without a boat not count?

[winter coral]

you're just saying that having a boat should allow you access to nearly infinite wp, which shouldn't be how it is

[nimble sonnet]

tbh i might be biased because the way i use my pc prevents me from doing circular

i spent 10 days on a chain and got 12 million

[winter coral]

which is a lot

[nimble sonnet]

which is extremely good

[winter coral]

12 million takes a long time to make

but you made it in 10 days

[nimble sonnet]

but far from the 40 million/week you guys are throwing around

[winter coral]

that was from etina

and that's only because etina is good at boat chaining

as soon as people get good at boat chaining, 40 mil will be the norm for boat chaining

[ancient marsh]

yes? cause motherblocking endgame content
i grinded my ass already, now i have the option of not grinding my ass again and i choose not to

[nimble sonnet]

[winter coral]

you keep using the term endgame content but that's subject to change

[ancient marsh]

maybe but as of right now it is

[winter coral]

you think that just because right now this is endgame that there can't be a difference endgame later?

[ancient marsh]

its like wow.

[winter coral]

so you wouldn't want this endgame to ruin future updates because people are getting wp at a large scale

[winter coral]

you don't, boats were balanced without chaining

[nimble sonnet]

if that does happen, it can be nerfed later
kinda how boats from boats pt.1 were nerfed into oblivion

[ancient marsh]

your finish the new expansion? wait for new endgame content

[nimble sonnet]

or

[winter coral]

then people will already have millions of wp to work with

too late then

[winter coral]

just because you're endgame doesn't mean you should have access to nearly infinite wp

[nimble sonnet]

we add event planes for 100 million weepees

[winter coral]

that should be the same with every vehicle in-game

it shouldn't give you nearly infinite wp

[ancient marsh]

implying people didnt already have 20+ mils before boat chains

[winter coral]

(it's infite because you aren't realistically going to be spending 40m)

[winter coral]

some people have sub 1m

before boat chain

[open vine]

How they would chain with 1mil?

[ancient marsh]

maybe we should also cap the BO on anime skins shouldnt we? cause damn survey requires more effort for those too

[dry gale]

I mean its only a handful of people doing boat chains

its not like

every single person is doing it

[winter coral]

it's getting more popular

[dry gale]

so I dont see how it'll impact the economy

when u have people hoarding like 20+ 7E7s

[open vine]

it is already past its peak

[winter coral]

[dry gale]

If anything the people that underpay for badge planes should be the ones that get punished

if we're talking about how much wp/hr u earn

[ancient marsh]

and the people who'd do it already have a surplus of wp to begin with

[dry gale]

and the effort u spend

all u have to do is say

[winter coral]

so?

[dry gale]

"Buy 7e7" in the game chat

[ancient marsh]

the economic impact is negligible

[winter coral]

having that much wp doesn't entitle you to 40 mil in a week

[dry gale]

and some player will unknowingly sell it for 50k wp

and thats like ez 1.8mil profit in 5mins

if that isnt an op method of earning money idk what is

[ancient marsh]

man honestly i just feel like you're jelly your preffered method of grinding doesnt make as much

[winter coral]

that's not true, you aren't realistically going to need 40 mil. and if you have that 40 mil then people will easily start deflating parts and inflating badge planes

[winter coral]

I don't think you understand how much 40 mil in a week is

[ancient marsh]

and people werent doing that pre-boats 2.0?

[open vine]

isn't that a good thing?

[winter coral]

it would absolutely ruin the economy

[winter coral]

at a lesser scale

[dry gale]

i mean yeah obviously its an issue because boats cant actually break atm

but once the damage is fixed this shouldnt really be an issue

[winter coral]

boat not being able to crash is stupid

[dry gale]

i mean

[pseudo abyss]

Me sleeping while ESing a DHC-6 and it somehow survived landing in the water without any control input

Ok prob the exception

[open vine]

oh yeah, so many boat accidents these days

[pseudo abyss]

At least no titanic rps

[open vine]

such a horrible world

[dry gale]

still I dont think a boat nerf is valid

if it is then more people will just resort to scamming new players

since its literally the easiest way to earn wp

most of the rich players barely even play the game

all they do is trade

[winter coral]

those are rare cases smh

[pseudo abyss]

Ye

[winter coral]

I think it's perfectly valid, people should be happy with the amount of wp boats earned because it was quite a lot

[dry gale]

theres no denying in the fact that trading is the easiest way to earn wp

[pseudo abyss]

The set up for boat chaining often are short trips that do require active handling usually

[winter coral]

600k per night is still crazy

[pseudo abyss]

Without job chain even

[winter coral]

boat chaining is way more effective than trading

[dry gale]

it isnt lol

[minor trench]

Man I love people bitching about how ‘OP’ boats are

[dry gale]

i made like 17mil from that foxglove update in 2 days

[winter coral]

that's based on updates though

[dry gale]

and thats without even trying

[minor trench]

Wrong

[pseudo abyss]

Somehow this is nearing 2000 messages

[dry gale]

it's still effective

look at people like avia

all they do is trade

[winter coral]

it's hard to make 40 mil in a week with trading

[dry gale]

they dont even play the game bruh

[ancient marsh]

that would literally make the boats unattractive to everyone, since they'll be a one trick pony

[winter coral]

that's false

[minor trench]

GiveElectrosteel: Am I a joke to you?

[winter coral]

leo-auch was filled with boats within the first week boats 2.0 came out

[winter coral]

that's an exception

[dry gale]

now it isnt lol

[winter coral]

but most people aren't making 40 mil in a week

[pseudo abyss]

I mean it’s sort of an end game overnight farm

[winter coral]

unless you boat chain

[ancient marsh]

and lets be real here, its only a bunch of aut nerds doing it and it will most likely stay that way. people will defo try it once but shit is stale

[minor trench]

This seems like it’s only an issue because the few loudmouths decided that it is

[dry gale]

theres barely even any boats on the map

[pseudo abyss]

Tbh not many people do these 40 million a week job chains/ are willing to do them

[dry gale]

and ur saying it'll ruin the economy

I dont see how it will tbh

[ancient marsh]

he keeps coming back to leo-auc

[dry gale]

if anything just fix the boats not breaking down properly

[minor trench]

When most people won’t even bother with chaining with boats because of the time it takes

[dry gale]

if boats break down properly week long chains wont exist

simple

[minor trench]

So, in conclusion, y’all are just overblowing this

[dry gale]

coz rn u can basically go infinite with the broken damage

[dry gale]

^^

[winter coral]

there are people who actually are working towards getting a chain due to the amount of wp it makes

[winter coral]

you are just afking, the time spent doesn't really matter that much

[ancient marsh]

a bunch of people. not a significant amount of the playerbase

[arctic frigate]

how long have y’all been chatting this morning

[winter coral]

you don't get access to the rest of the game, but so what. what else is there to do?

[ancient marsh]

you think the zoomers can hold their adhd for long enough to actually profit much?

[dry gale]

I mean u can say the same for trading

all ur doing is trading to earn wp

ur not playing the game

[winter coral]

why are you even talking about people with adhd

[dry gale]

the game is about flying

but all people are doing is trading to earn wp

ur point falls flat

[winter coral]

now how often do you make 40 mil in a week with trading

[minor trench]

Waiting for ‘boat nerfs’ to be added to #rejected-suggestions

[winter coral]

trading is also a long process

[minor trench]

[dry gale]

which is why I said just to fix the boat damage so that week long chains dont exist

[open vine]

do it

[dry gale]

if boats can actually break down then no 40mil/week

simple

[ancient marsh]

imagine you cant play any other funni lego game for 1 week because you'll lose your chain bonus? you think the adhd rattled kids of today can do that

[minor trench]

If I were to be honest

Until unique jobs get added to boats, I wouldn’t be worried about boat profits

[dry gale]

afk farming is a huge thing in many games anyways so idk why ur complaining

[winter coral]

you can leave the game if you want, play something else. jobs save

[ancient marsh]

but you wont be earning your wp

[winter coral]

no one said you are only allowed to play aeronautica during that week of boat chaining

[ancient marsh]

which kinda defeats the purpose of afk grinding

[dry gale]

afk farming has been a thing since like

mmorpgs existed

look at osrs

shit has so many auto farmers

[winter coral]

it's a choice that people can make though

[ancient marsh]

well its your choice to go with survery grinding so?

[winter coral]

and just because some people aren't willing to spend the time, there are people who are willing to

[winter coral]

?

[minor trench]

Most people aren’t willing to go through the trouble of chaining slow boats

That’s in comparison to planes

[winter coral]

but the people who do are making tons

[ancient marsh]

and do you think there'd be enough willing people to drastically affect the economy. its just a handful of bozos

[minor trench]

Let them be

[ancient marsh]

man it really does seem like you are just jelly

[dry gale]

tbf yeah

[minor trench]

Again, this is completely being overblown out of proportion

[dry gale]

at this point ur just crying lmao

[ancient marsh]

how about you try chaining at least once, see if you are correct

[dry gale]

etina is already rich as fuck even before he started boat chaining

so i dont see a difference

[cold salmon]

he had 60m alrdy

[dry gale]

if anything more WP is better

because the market will deflate

coz people will eventually just run out of things to buy

theres only so much shit u can buy in aero

[minor trench]

Besides there are much more important issues as Titanium said

[arctic frigate]

bring back event planes

[cold salmon]

they will stock up on badge planes

making it inflate cra

zy

[ancient marsh]

maybe i should go around giving babbies 1mil using my theoretical 40mil, to actually shit on the economy

[winter coral]

badge plane inflation

[open vine]

you as well

[cold salmon]

[winter coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1186832703308443708.gif?size=160&name=erm+what+thee+eff

[dry gale]

i mean if u buy badge planes to profit u shouldnt be commenting about boats being op

[winter coral]

I'm not buying badge planes to profit, I don't even buy badge planes

[cold salmon]

same

only for collection purposes

[winter coral]

if anything, boat chaining gives you more wp to buy badge planes to profit

[cold salmon]

am not gonna sell any

[dry gale]

why would someone need like 10 7E7s

[winter coral]

to collect or to sell for profit

[cold salmon]

fr

[arctic frigate]

pretty sure snerd had 30 in his prime

[cold salmon]

i have reched my k-jets goal

[cold salmon]

perify has most 7e7s

[dry gale]

I still dont see how boats are op

[arctic frigate]

yea ik

[winter coral]

40 mil in a week is definitely op

[dry gale]

40mil a week if ur willing to let ur PC run for 24hrs a day

[ancient marsh]

40mil to like 5 of the most dedicated ~~auti ~~ nerds

[dry gale]

meanwhile for trading all u have to do is just snipe auctions or scam people ingame by buying badge planes for cheap

[ancient marsh]

who probably already have upwards of 40mil anyway

[dry gale]

or parts for cheap

I bought so much shit for extremely cheap without even trying

[winter coral]

40 mil is for people who are good at boat chaining, as soon as people get good at boat chaining, 40 mil will be the norm

[dry gale]

the only reason I have WP is because of trading

[ancient marsh]

im mean speaking of profiting

[dry gale]

all I do is fly commercial jets

[ancient marsh]

[winter coral]

ok?

[dry gale]

my WP/hr is like 40-50k

[winter coral]

that takes a lot longer than boat chaining does

[ancient marsh]

ah fuck i have wasted my time on dc again instead of making anime skins

[dry gale]

bruh u keep bringing up the same point

[weak cloud]

I still dont get why people are mad about boat chaining, very few know how to do it well and usually planes make more

its so stupid

[dry gale]

^

[ancient marsh]

he does

[dry gale]

if u wanna complain about boat chaining then Ill complain about trading

we should make it so it autobans anyone who offers less than average price for planes

and parts

[open vine]

solution: be poor

[winter coral]

planes do not make more, and there is a full doc showing you how to do it properly

following that doc vaguely gives you around 10m+

[dry gale]

ive seen so many people buy badge planes and rare parts for dirt cheap

[burnt oriole]

Already tried it’s not the solution

[cold salmon]

yes i have 1.5m only now

not gonna chain anymore

[weak cloud]

ew

more like restrictions on max prices

[ancient marsh]

after an initial investment of 4mil, and a shit ton of time playing funny boat screensaver

[open vine]

making liveries:

[cold salmon]

yes

[burnt oriole]

Liveries:

[glass pendant]

Boats shouldn't be nerfed

[dry gale]

but then people are gonna offer players that dont know anything like 20k for a pzl

then sell it for 750k

[open vine]

where is mine btw

[glass pendant]

They should be paid well due of duration of their jobs

[weak cloud]

people who spend millions on liveries are stupid, its their fault

[dry gale]

simply just autoban anyone that underpays for planes

[cold salmon]

in the works

[open vine]

[winter coral]

Boat Chaining Removal

[glass pendant]

10k for remos gx jobs when???

[open vine]

bruh

[ancient marsh]

wow

[winter coral]

[weak cloud]

cutely moves goalposts

[glass pendant]

[burnt oriole]

Woah there that’s a bit excessive mate

[winter coral]

I don't know what else to change the title to

[open vine]

definitely getting rejected

[glass pendant]

cuz boats aren't op

[dry gale]

just change it to "Fix boat damage"

[cold salmon]

[dry gale]

from what I know boats have infinite health atm

[ancient marsh]

anyways, do us a favor and actually try boatchaining. see if its really that easy

[dry gale]

coz they cant break down

[weak cloud]

good?

[dry gale]

which leads to weeklong chains

[winter coral]

Boat Nerf

I'll change the title back

[cold salmon]

this is tru

[open vine]

they break on 2000 nm

[glass pendant]

I think boats should have collision with other boats

[open vine]

around that

[dry gale]

this is funny

[cold salmon]

rejoining brings ur engine back to life

[open vine]

not for long

[ancient marsh]

woulda been funny on the peak of leo-auch

[burnt oriole]

I remember a while ago there was a suggestion for Helis be able to land in boats

[glass pendant]

Or what if icebergs could damage boats

[dry gale]

only 2000nm? i swear they could go further

[glass pendant]

Imagine Olympic-class liner hitting iceberg

[cold salmon]

extra 50hrs

[dry gale]

extra 50hrs is a lot

[open vine]

that is quite long

[burnt oriole]

Not long for boaters

[dry gale]

does the engines get fixed even after u rejoin after the 50hrs?

[glass pendant]

Also let's nerf Boeing 747 planes durability for realism

[dry gale]

737 max

[cold salmon]

oh 20mins

[dry gale]

coz all this is reminding me of is that one time heli chains could go infinite

[glass pendant]

Because Boeing 747 is considered as worst mass production plane in terms of safety

[dry gale]

coz they could break down

or the time when the tu244 had infinite health

[glass pendant]

Due of it being produced since 60's-70's

[dry gale]

i thought the 737 had a worse reputation

[cold salmon]

i have done it

[glass pendant]

Sukhoi Superjet 100: ☠️☠️☠️

[dry gale]

i had a friend who did it

[glass pendant]

It also sucks in terms of safety

[cold salmon]

u could get 5.5m in 6hrs

[dry gale]

and he got like

30mil wp

that shit was so much more broken than boats

[cold salmon]

yeah

[dry gale]

tldr just fix boats getting damaged properly

if boats actually break and dont magically come back to life people wont be earning 40mil/week

600k/night is already bad

when ur spending like 4mil on a boat

it'll take u like maybe 5-7 days to earn back what u paid for the boat if u afk for 6-7hrs everynight

but u can easily earn back like the 80k u spent on an A380 in like

2hrs

maybe even 1hr if ur good at hunting event jobs

[glass pendant]

i think boats should have access to special jobs

[dry gale]

[glass pendant]

i mean green jobs

[dry gale]

true

[glass pendant]

add corporate jobs for small passenger boats and yachts

[cold salmon]

cruise trips

[weak cloud]

me when I spread misinformation online

[glass pendant]

they should have yellow rarity

or purple if it's special

[dry gale]

either that or

if u really want a boat nerf then make it so that overhauling boats take like

1-2 days

[glass pendant]

also cargo ships shall have different types of jobs depending on cargo they carry

such as cars for container ships

[dry gale]

coz overhauling a boat takes extremely long

[glass pendant]

oil and gas for tankers

[dry gale]

I ship I serve onboard takes like 1 year for an overhaul whenever it goes to yard

and thats only a 6,000ton warship

imagine like some 81231273103 ton oil tanker

[glass pendant]

do planes have same long overhauls

[ancient marsh]

can i pay for a repair bucket tho

[dry gale]

true

[dry gale]

too op honestly

[dry gale]

not exactly

[glass pendant]

or they have only stuff like "remove all seats and windows and turn it into cargo plane"

[dry gale]

usually its like 2-4 weeks

maybe 2 months at most

my stepfather flies the 747-400F and usually when a plane enters for maintencne it doesnt take that long

unless theres like a major defect

[weak cloud]

I would assume commerical ships dont spend that long in drydock

and they definitely spend more time at sea than military ships

[dry gale]

i mean its proportional

the more things ur ship has the more time u need to spend maintaining it

commercial vessels have a really long service period

[glass pendant]

also when military ships for basic players

such as bismarck

[burnt oriole]

Remember this game is aeronautica not waternautica

[glass pendant]

also let players to sail on HMS hood

[arctic frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/roodmuch-squidward-explode-gif-22973645

[dry gale]

idk bro I think I see more planes than boats

[glass pendant]

and add military training jobs for warships

[weak cloud]

apparently container ships will spend about 10 days in drydock for service

[arctic frigate]

I’m cooked

[glass pendant]

it's same as PTS for military planes but you fire on targets at sea

[dry gale]

add patrolling for military vessels

essentially recon

but for boats

[glass pendant]

and make it interactive?

[dry gale]

yeah

thats what my ship does

[glass pendant]

when you catch illegal boat and you stop it

[dry gale]

i mean that would be cool

coz we actually do that

[glass pendant]

imagine catching drug ships

[dry gale]

pirates and gulf of aden or something

[open vine]

and most of them do one way things

[dry gale]

idk i wasnt serving onboard when it happened

[glass pendant]

would be realistic to add drug ship stopping jobs

[weak cloud]

god please dont make Aero start drawing real world parallels 💀

[dry gale]

but yeah intercepting pirates is a real thing

[weak cloud]

especially given whats happening

[glass pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/somalia-flag-gif-africa-gif-27442561

[dry gale]

whats happening

[glass pendant]

🏴‍☠️

how about to add pirate land that would be based on somalia

[weak cloud]

do you not know what is happening in the gulf of aden and the red sea? 💀

[glass pendant]

yemen 💀💀💀

[dry gale]

i never mentioned anything about politics

[glass pendant]

somalia 💀💀💀

[dry gale]

its just what my jobs requires me to do

why do people feel the need to bring politics into everything

smh

[arctic frigate]

hmm

23 more messages til 2000

[weak cloud]

cause they were relevant?

[dry gale]

why does everything need to be political

what does my job have to do with politics

💀

[nimble sonnet]

that's small game

here's one from the pathos community forums

they've only been at it for a year too

[grand atlas]

Guys

Bad news

[arctic frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pvz-troll-face-gif-26093315

[nimble sonnet]

i keep saying this

but nobody cares about the fact that 1+ week on a single job is painful

[open vine]

BuT yOu Do AbSoLuTeLy NoThInG, zErO eFfOrT

[sick oracle]

No, that's just an awesome investement. And anyways the IRS only know that I make 250,000 dollars a year

[timber nacelle]

[tender yew]

please dont i spent my life savings on boats

[winter coral]

you can easily get that back within a few days with overnight trips

[tender yew]

i have a laptop

that reaches 116 celcius

when playing aero

on graphics three

[winter coral]

why did you buy a boat then

[tender yew]

i thought it was fun

[winter coral]

...

[tender yew]

variety of choice for speedboats

3 choices lol

[versed sierra]

How old is that fucking thing. No laptop should be reaching 100+

[tender yew]

2018

i baked an egg today on it for breakfast

[open vine]

just don't run cyberpunk on that laptop

[tender yew]

dont worry my laptop imploded once while downloading fsx so that wont be a problem down the line

dont worry

i just put ductape over the hole

its works

[silk shuttle]

real. controversial opinion but i feel like you should actually have to do something to do well in the game

[cold salmon]

bro mines 2017

it doesnt go that high

[versed sierra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/831867173269012541/1220112158965366804/image.png?ex=660dc0ff&is=65fb4bff&hm=fa851417a21f322b26a88067cefeaea6222ffd8173cc6529656f947861b959a0&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=688&height=469
Another example of why the game needs port caps, would prevent this (mostly)

[frozen harbor]

I have a suggestion which can bring everyone together, add progressive tax for everyone. This means that everyone would pay their WP and Money to Northernism. The more money you have and the more stable your sustaining income is, the more of a percentage is taken for tax.

This includes everyone not just boats.

https://tenor.com/view/big-brother1984-1984-big-brother-big-brother-is-watching-you-george-orwell-gif-24454773

[coral sluice]

this dude is a irs agent

[waxen yacht]

does irs tax the rich

[frozen harbor]

They tax everyone smh my head

[frozen harbor]

This will also shut everyone up about how some people earn more when everyone has to pay up.

Both sides anyways.

[sick oracle]

Legally yes

[pseudo abyss]

I mean your progress and chain do save while in a job so you can play other games then come back

[sick oracle]

The rich find ways to hide the majority of their income though

So even though they're being taxed it isn't nearly as much as they should be

[pseudo abyss]

Tax evasion

[sick oracle]

Technically

Yes

But actually no

[pseudo abyss]

time to activate the Aero IRS

[sick oracle]

The government doesn't really enforce loopholes

[pseudo abyss]

True, they do try to patch them, but rarely

[frozen harbor]

Yes we must tax all of the Aeronauticans so that they will never complain.

[ancient marsh]

thats cool and all but can i intentionally scrap my planes for a tax break

[frozen harbor]

Probably

[ancient marsh]

or what it if i keep my wp as parts, clearly i cannot be taxed for theoretical earnings

[frozen harbor]

Although there may be a cooldown of a few days

[pulsar haven]

Aeronautica money laundering update

[tender yew]

fuck you @winter coral

[ancient marsh]

well that was out of nowhere

[nimble sonnet]

waiting for 🔒

[pseudo abyss]

Aeronautica fine art market lol

Well that’s like the current private liveries already

[winter coral]

half the suggestions in here weren't mine
I was mostly suggesting removing boat's ability to chain

[frozen harbor]

That was unnecessary.

[tender yew]

do you want my suggestion to change to not sold in gutke

[frozen harbor]

Um what

[tender yew]

bread cube

[burnt oriole]

Troll suggestion

[tender yew]

minimodding shall not be allowed 🤓

[burnt oriole]

Nuh uh

[severe needle]

seemed unnecessary to say on this suggestion

[forest star]

Boat Damage is unfixable:
Titanium already said costs can’t be adjusted
If you increase the rate at which boats get damaged it will make people who don’t chain unable to earn any from boat trips

[dull lance]

except that woudl further inflate the prices

Like shit isnt expensive nowadays

[cosmic sorrel]

i just say we stick to etinas idea on limeting the amount of ports large boats can go to

it effects boatchaining enough to make it harder to do but still possable, and make smallerships more viable as it will make chaining them easier

esspesially if they gain acces to the small decoratinal ports

and include potential options for the few sailboats in game

such as day sails which could include navigating in traditinal ways without a gps (map ingame) and with charts (map without any thing to determine where you are)

or races in sail ships, which involve you beating a set time determined on wind direction, weather, and tides (if they are ever added).

all without engine

[sick oracle]

I'm all for giving smaller boats a reason to exist

or rather to be used

[cosmic sorrel]

i want more sail boats in aeronaughtica

i would model one if needs be

i am not biast by working with old sailboats doing this

[umbral crown]

2091 messages

[pseudo abyss]

you are the engine

[cosmic sorrel]

wrong: WIND

https://tenor.com/view/wind-deniers-wind-deniers-be-like-flying-tent-the-wind-deniers-are-shaking-must-have-been-the-wind-gif-25592927

[pseudo abyss]

no wind for you, start paddling

[cosmic sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/mauzy-mauzymice-gif-2489136297157013512

[halcyon goblet]

@winter coral fuck you

[sleek slate]

💀

[winter coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1186832703308443708.gif?size=160&name=erm+what+thee+eff

[winter coral]

@mortal sundial do these count as suggestion rule 4?

this is the second time

[winter coral]

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[mortal sundial]

b

why can’t yall be nice smh

[sour cradle]

nomsnack has been warned. || Suggestions rule 4

sandcookie has been warned. || Suggestions rule 4

[halcyon goblet]

Frick

[upbeat schooner]

Purge!

[halcyon goblet]

Dont nerf my afk machin

[halcyon goblet]

I apologis tho

[civic jacinth]

Bro came back an hour later to apologise 💀

[tender yew]

@winter coral fuck you (again)

[tender yew]

wat

[pseudo abyss]

that usually means chill out

[open vine]

Mute is coming

[minor trench]

Can y’all cut it out

[arctic frigate]

what has this devolved into

[nimble sonnet]

probably should ask @winter coral what he thinks of it

but IMO nothing more productive will come out of this thread, so might as well lock it

[mortal sundial]

This been going on for way too long

I swear yall could bring up something that’s already been said some 500 messages ago

[sour cradle]

sandcookie has been warned. || Rule 4, excessive toxicity after being warned not to continue.