Extra effects like tire smoke and sparks for planes and helis when landing

[red coral]

These effects would greatly enhance the overall landing experience, and it's quite simple to do. Calculate if the plane's gears are down, and if its not at an extreme angle, then when it touches the ground, create smoke at the point of contact. If at an extreme angle and/or gear is not retracted, generate sparks at the point of impact. Same goes for helicopters but for those with only skid landing gears, generate sparks regardless.

[left galleon]

Uh oh

#rejected-suggestions unfortunately

[red coral]

what

let me check

[red coral]

oohhh

well can i atleast keep my sparks

[left galleon]

If we go into the technical stuff it's not that simple. We'd need a way for the game to know when you're actually touching down with the wheels, otherwise you can get smoke appearing in the air

And then we need to tell the game where to spawn the smoke

[red coral]

what about when the plane stalls but doesn't loose any altitude?

or when braking

[left galleon]

Not sure how possible that is

Not braking as you can brake still in the air

[red coral]

really?

i've never noticed

[left galleon]

A bit silly

[red coral]

indeed

[left galleon]

Then we have this problem, which would require manually placing parts at the bottom of all the wheels

[red coral]

what about where the hitbox collides with the ground

or when a specific color (tire color) touches the ground

[left galleon]

The hitbox is quite big

[red coral]

maybe tire color can be an emitter?

not sure how that works

[left galleon]

Color... gears can have any shade of black or dark grey, or even multiple colors

[red coral]

so theres no uniform color for all the gears in the game?

[left galleon]

Yes an emitter which must be placed there

[left galleon]

No it varies greatly

[red coral]

oh

[left galleon]

Some are textured, some are vertex painted

[red coral]

wait

but isn't there a script that hide the gear part and removes collision with it?

[left galleon]

Yeah, it blocks gear toggling above a certain altitude

not on ground level

[red coral]

so

theres no way on paper to do this without it being buggy or inaccurate

[left galleon]

Manually

[red coral]

oh god

[left galleon]

Which is not only a tedious process but also adds a lot of extra parts just for a small feature

The smallest planes would have at least 3 new parts

not ideal

[red coral]

sad

could you at least check my other suggestion

to see if it's even possible

in the game engine

[chilly crow]

rejected suggestion speedrun?

February..

Why was this at the top lol

who commented

[flat prism]

ok here's the funniest thing

it's coming up

at least it was showcased

#dev-showcase message

[left galleon]

That is not tire smoke

[sharp wraith]

that's engines kicking up dust/dirt from the runway 💀

[dense stump]

jetblast was a suggestion i did months ago, lmao

[sharp wraith]

it's already implemented lmao

[dense stump]

well, going too be, hopefully in the new leaks lmao, of the 737 MAX's engines kicking up dirt on the runway

[sharp wraith]

i'm pretty sure jetblast is already a feature with some aircraft

might just be soviet engines that produce 75% of the global Co² limit every second they run tho

[dense stump]

Hmm?, never seen it..

[dense stump]

Its the soveit engines lol, i just got done flying the IL-80 low bypass engines, lmao

[sharp wraith]

it's probably just me misremembering engine smoke

[dense stump]

yea

[silk monolith]

[undone dragon]

In brute honesty: Suggestions are closed so better stop suggesting.

On another note: Someone pointed out a similar mechanic for the wheel roll sound effect inside the Cockpit Cam ro be utilized for smokes

[undone dragon]

IIRC someone in here suggested using a similar mechanic to the one used in wheel roll sounds in Cockpit Cam for wheel smokes

[lime patrol]

nosedives into ground

releases humongous smoke cloud covering entire map

[sharp wraith]

tomfoolery

[prime mural]

SPARKS?

buddy

planes dont usually produce sparks when they land

[sharp wraith]

yeah 💀

[thorn yoke]

im surprised there is not more of these suggestions

[wraith fable]

even if rejected, please

oh wait it's gonna get locke-

[frozen radish]

well I'm glad even if this is rejected we have gotten into why exactly we can't do it at the moment

[old rivet]

So
We need a new small part on the tires as a hitbox, and if that hitbox detects solid ground that is not a meshpart, then we can potentially make smoke
Problem is that we don't have this part on older models and require another remodel

The only thing we have rn are those collisions for gears when u have them down

[frozen radish]

if they manage to fix that we can actually properly do crabbing and crosswind landing

instead of the current bullshit we have that is a sudden change from the wind component to 0 when the gears are ~25 ft from the runway

[old rivet]

Remodelling is very... Annoying

[old rivet]

We can't really change that fact, u don't want to slide while being in the ground; the wind basically affects u even if ur halted

[frozen radish]

that's true

with that being said I still hope something could be done about that issue

it's super annoying

[old rivet]

More like floating point issue

[frozen radish]

it's not floating point though? this happens all over the map, even at KCIA

[old rivet]

Talking about Valois Crosswind landing without winds type shit

[frozen radish]

in that case floating point contributes to making it feel even more shit

[old rivet]

Though the ~25ft into immediate halts of winds and trying to make it to <3 ft is almost improbable for some reasons I can't tell

[frozen radish]

you can't tell as in "you don't know" or "legally not allowed to disclose"?

[old rivet]

Can't answer

[signal sluice]

just find where the hitbox intersects with the ground, summon particle, ez

that way u also get "tail smoke" if your dragging 🥴

[left galleon]

Hitbox can be pretty big though, and you'd get particles where the gear isn't located

[stuck moth]

what about PTFS? it has particles and its quite a simple game

so it will not be that hard to calculate

you can also make wheels a diferent part at the planes that i see it needs to be a thing

here a script

local part = script.Parent

part.Touched:Connect(function(hit)
    if hit:IsA("Terrain") then --Here is just the runway that it should hit
        print("touched terrain!") -- Here it should be a particle generator
    end
end)

[rain zodiac]

295th revive

[rain zodiac]

we’d need to go back and change every model to do that

and then reconfigure said models

which takes a lot of time and effort for something so small

how did you even find this

[left galleon]

How many aircraft does PTFS have?

[stuck moth]

idk

the devs can put in some aircrafts and not in all

like they made with cockpits

[left galleon]

Cockpits have to be fully modeled and hardly anyone is willing to do it

Completely different things

Anyway like Life said, it's going to be extra work (at the very least coding and configuring) for a small detail

Separating the gear parts in blender is not an option

Adding parts to generate the smoke is not only extra work but adds a bunch more parts into studio and therefore lag

[stuck moth]

ok ok

[prime mural]

samisageTFE made a smoke thingy

its the one for PTFS

i thinks

and i tried it out and it actually works

but uh

thats manually added

and uhhhh

800+ planes in aero

.......

[undone dragon]

Roll them out slowly like what they did with Advanced Liveries & Gen 2 engine sounds

"Slow roll-out" is one of the things i see missing from "aErO hAs ThOuSaNdS oF pLaNeS" arguments where per-plane reconfiguring is involved

Also cant a small or near-invisible cube made in Blender subsititute for the Studio "Part" (since Blender meshes are polygon-efficient compared to Studio) so the effects have somewhere to go?

[left galleon]

There's no difference in performance for a cube being made in Blender or in Studio

What matters is that each cube is an extra part being loaded