neat maple
TL;DR for those who say the AV-8B is the same:
Smaller wing on GR.1 and FRS.1
Less hard points
Faster
Different canopy
Different nose (shorter and sharper on Gr.1)
Different refueling probe system.
different tailcone.
GR.1:
Max speed of 635kn
Max diving speed of Mach 1.3
Service ceiling of 51,200 ft
FRS.1:
Top speed of 640 knots
Service ceiling of 50997 ft
Also used for Recon (FRS.51)
I don’t remember if this was accepted before or not
But the Harrier trello card seems to be gone
For comparison with the Harrier IIs
+the outrigger position didn’t change between the Harrier I and the II
The wing was just extended beyond that
cloud oyster
https://trello.com/c/7fwYurxy/2251-mcdonnell-douglas-av-8b-harrier-ii
yeah still waiting 
neat maple
Bump
Also @main river bruh I did read the trello, that only the AV8B Harrier II
Which is McDonnell Douglas built
The GR.1 is the original Harrier made by Hawker Siddley
main river
The GR.1 is the original Harrier made by Hawker Siddley
idk
neat maple
<:shrug:899876148484395008> idk
Bruh you literally are a British plane nerd how do you not know this
It’s like the British plane
main river
It’s like **the** British plane
Well yes but there is a problem does it have adv customize option for this
neat maple
Well yes but there is a problem does it have adv customize option for this
What, the AV8B?
Maybe?
But it’s a pretty major set of changes for adv customization
neat maple
For comparison with the Harrier IIs
See here
main river
What, the AV8B?
Maybe?
But it’s a pretty major set of changes for adv customizat...
Again I have no idea to confirm this cuz I'm not dev to know this
neat maple
I mean it would be disappointing if it’s advances customization because it would just be a set of straight downgrades from the AV-8B
Except like speed and max alt
marble nimbus
Well variants can be advanced customization as seen with the P-3 for example and L-1011
Personally the Av-8 and Harrier basically look the same
Only the canopy and wings seem to be different
neat maple
Only the canopy and wings seem to be different
The intake is different, as is the nose and the exhaust for the engines
marble nimbus
If that's different enough in your eyes then go for it
worn apex
Personally the Av-8 and Harrier basically look the same
saying an AV-8B harrier is the same as a GR.1 is like saying these two are exactly the same
marble nimbus
well I always assumed they looked the same visually
neat maple
well I always assumed they looked the same visually
I mean technically, they look visually similar due to sharing a fuselage but they are very different
tame lagoon
Its like a Hornet and Super Hornet
total rework and its size is different too. but visually the same plane
between AV8B and earlier harriers.
maybe not AS extreme as the super hornet but the same principle.
fickle bolt
Supersonic harrier?
civic spindle
Only the canopy and wings seem to be different
And whole nozzles system remodeled
I’ve looked into this sometime before
Maybe sometime in the future but I’m quite backlogged as of now
safe tiger
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