Yeah this makes sense
#Expedition jobs having higher wp modifiers than Surveillance
urban notch
Yeah you got a point.
dapper roost
i dint get it
i’m to dumb
just quadruple icebreaker profits
and make it more expensive
unkempt meteor
My opinion is that surveillance and hypermach chaining are too OP compared to everything else
Nerf those 2 together
The icebreaker actually has a better earning-cost ratio than similar tier ships
considering its expeditions
vestal gull
My opinion is that surveillance and hypermach chaining are too OP compared to ev...
nooooo
silent arrow
Let's nerf surveillance then <:great:1110972472649601154>
NOOOOOOOOO 
lapis nymph
Let's nerf surveillance then <:great:1110972472649601154>
Watch WP deflate overnight
The market gonna crash
If anything just buff ships and make them super late game
past dagger
fuck i need to ES all my surveillance aircraft as fast as possible now
back to not touching grass
analog maple
Let's nerf surveillance then <:great:1110972472649601154>
no
untold bridge
Let's nerf surveillance then <:great:1110972472649601154>
NO
no
ships take to long
honest bear
Let's nerf surveillance then <:great:1110972472649601154>
every word you say now have a chance to kill the game
unkempt meteor
No 
noble atlas
No <:great:1110972472649601154>
the better plan would be to buff expedition since there is already poeple who have 300 million or more wp.
make it about equal to slow survilance it should be perfect
jolly briar
My opinion is that surveillance and hypermach chaining are too OP compared to ev...
WP earnings are fine as is
IMO
if you make WP harder to earn people with less playing time will sink even more
Lk-60Ya needs a buff
not a big one, but a buff nonetheless
unkempt meteor
Expeditions and recon differ greatly when it comes to effort required
That reminds me, the upcoming Healy should also get expedition missions
jolly briar
i think that commiting to a 20+ hour job is a certain effort in and of itself
unkempt meteor
The addition of the Healy may require a rebalance of the LK too
We'll see
if the rewards increase the ship cost will also be increased
jolly briar
the concept of expeditions is cool, but the gameplay is effectively two boat jobs in a row
without additional rewards to encourage it it's not gonna see much use
jolly briar
if the rewards increase the ship cost will also be increased
i'd be ok with that tbh
unkempt meteor
i think that commiting to a 20+ hour job is a certain effort in and of itself
Yes and this is why it's already cheaper compared to similar-earning ships
Compared to the Rosenrot for example
Earns about 90% of what the Rosenrot does, but only costs 74%
jolly briar
i don't know if it's a shared feeling
but i think the biggest commitment with this boat isn't to get it
it's to actually commit to a 24 hour job
unkempt meteor
There will always be someone who prefers these jobs
jolly briar
The addition of the Healy may require a rebalance of the LK too
ig we'll see once that ship comes out
unkempt meteor
It's going to be tricky to balance them out... LK doesn't even seem to do research IRL
Speed comes into play too
Healyactually does research so it can have higher income at the cost of speed
jolly briar
Speed comes into play too
i just checked, with the longest trip available from my position (from seraphim)
the Lk earns 700k on a 21 hour job
unkempt meteor
Yep
jolly briar
maybe i'm relatively isolated, but the way i see ships being used is solely for overnight or AFKing
jolly briar
so i run them in such a way that when i'm available to properly play in front of my PC, the boat has finished its job
jolly briar
that's why i don't think i'll ever do the research jobs
night scarab
Alright bois its time to continue the aero nautica war
jolly briar
the ship would run on AFK time, but then i'd have to stay "active" in front of the boat job
night scarab
jolly briar
for several hours
wet wagon
I would just buff research jobs
unkempt meteor
It will be considered when the Healy is added
jolly briar
in practice, i feel like the commitment is the biggest challenge
jolly briar
It will be considered when the Healy is added
honest bear
No <:great:1110972472649601154>
hollow tree
i think surveillance could be nerfed by 15 to 20%
noble atlas
i think surveillance could be nerfed by 15 to 20%
Could be but is it a smart idea no, buff expedition and leave surveillance alone.
Nerfing surveillance also nerfs it for slow surveillance which is already barely better than just doing a boat trip in a small boat
hollow tree
I think the distance between markers can be reduced from 25 max to 15 max
it will make the process a little bit faster
jolly briar
am i the only one who thinks surveillance is very good as is ?
hollow tree
the only minus imo is that sometimes you dont know where the waypoint is
so i think we need a direction marker showing the way of the waypoint
urban notch
https://tenor.com/view/court-judge-attack-jump-rahh-gif-15215467491354621217
NAWWW HOW DID THIS GET ON #starboard 
vagrant mesa
@vagrant mesa congratulations
you have single handily made the entire aeronautican community hate you
soft loom
this whole place is fail
anyways we are nerfing both significantly
next update
you will only get 5000 wp from each job
i think thats a very fair tradeoff
vagrant mesa
i cant tell if thats sarcasm or being legitmate
wide dagger
you will only get 5000 wp from each job
HASD meta again
c-5 and an-124 stocks rising 
vagrant mesa
either way im not suprised if I watch this acknowledged peace guy starts to receive very angry messages from people
mental rivet
yay
wheat citrus
eep
mental rivet
i cant tell if thats sarcasm or being legitmate
It was sarcasm all of this was sarcasm it turns out
untold bridge
@unkempt meteor are you actually nerfing surveillance
mental rivet
<@319520471638999041> are you actually nerfing surveillance
no
he said in ingame chat
untold bridge
Okay be sad then I only care a lil
what
unkempt meteor
<@319520471638999041> are you actually nerfing surveillance
It was a joke
But for the record I wouldn't mind a nerf
wheat citrus
It was a joke
But for the record I wouldn't mind a nerf
if you do end up nerfing it (don't), could you introduce the airline system update around the same time? Please :)
vagrant mesa
Mf is bumping this shit like it’s an auction 😭