stage-discussion

[daring gale]

we do a little trolling

[cloud stag]

you just do it

[stiff sinew]

these emote sets are gonna be so useful for holidays omg

[teal knoll]

@daring gale how many sets are limited to users?

[daring gale]

uh u can find their user page through an emote page or smth, cant link via username yet

[oblique inlet]

you can report users?

or could you alwayws

[daring gale]

or you can go through 7tv.app, click their pfp for the link to change to id then change .app to .dev

reporting users is new

[oblique inlet]

why does it not work

[daring gale]

cuz it's not implemented

[stiff sinew]

[daring gale]

i loooooooove cosmetic buttons

[cloud stag]

fix this I beg I will cry

[clever sail]

HUGE BUG FOUND ⚠️

[fathom jackal]

I don't know if this is just me, but my monke brain keeps thinking this is a settings cog and flashbanging myself

[clever sail]

i cant scroll down the sets

[steel patio]

[daring gale]

uh yea i didnt add overflow , this just a rough basic interface to test if things work

im pretty much just testing all the functionality that is required before i re-implement the v2 api

set management is more of a bonus though

[steel patio]

why only show 4 page boxes like this? there's enough space to stack 6 boxes for sure

[clever sail]

thank your chairman

[cloud stag]

like everyone did

[cloud stag]

bc it shows 2 infront, 2 behind, first page and last page

[daring gale]

the idea is that as soon as possible this website will be available in production as next.7tv.app

i'll use that "beta" time to finish things up before it becomes the default site

[steel patio]

yeah but there's only 6, why not just show 2 more

all the empty wasted space to the right

[cloud stag]

more lines of code

imo pagination should look like this

something like that atleast

still exists

[rich oak]

ummm

[sinful forum]

Balls

[sick sedge]

yo

[daring gale]

i like how every field of the emote structure is flat then there's versions which just goes
|
|
|
|

[unkempt hill]

you made it you pepega

"I like how this thing that I made is the way that I made it"

[daring gale]

yes and?

[unkempt hill]

dont yes and me motherfucker

Madge

[daring gale]

[teal knoll]

dont get the cum guy pissed

[daring gale]

true he'll take you to kingdom cum

and you dont want to be there

[unkempt hill]

ok now that I'm looking at that struct

its annoying me

I know its nitpicky

but why is there two different timestamp formats

on the same object

[daring gale]

wdym there's ony one

[unkempt hill]

oh its just the browser formating

nvm

I read that as a string

because its red

and im used to red meaning strings

[daring gale]

timestamp is just a Date, mongo compass renders it as a ISO string

formats.files.time is nanoseconds

(amount of time it took to process the file)

[unkempt hill]

bruh wait so it is two different formats

ohhh

[daring gale]

nah it's a duration not a date

in theory could do start date end date but thats unnecessary

considering we basically know the start date from when it was created

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale why is frame count and length specified

and why is length on each format type

[daring gale]

length is bytes

frame count is the amount of frames in an animated image

it should be 1 there as it's a static image but i think at the time i created that emote it wasnt being recorded

the formats/files structures directly corresponds to what's in the cdn;
i.e https://cdn.7tv.dev/emote/621ee9bea20987fa11773349/3x.avif https://cdn.7tv.dev/emote/621ee9bea20987fa11773349/3x.webp https://cdn.7tv.dev/emote/621ee9bea20987fa11773349/3x.png

[inner sorrel]

[elder lichen]

7tv version control cli when
7tvgit add .
7tvgit commit -m "christmas version pagman"
7tvgit push

[daring gale]

versioning coming together now, might do a test on stage tonight or tomorrow

it's the last step before v3 can begin to make its way into production

[elder lichen]

[viral gulch]

Can I add an emote thats already uploaded?

[muted dew]

why?

[viral gulch]

[unkempt hill]

why would you reupload an emote just add it to the channel

[viral gulch]

I meant for versioning

so i dont have to reupload it

[unkempt hill]

you can version any emote

it doesnt matter if it was before or after

oh

you mean like

uploading an alternate version?

[daring gale]

the point of versioning is to avoid having to reupload an entirely new emote

[unkempt hill]

where your not the uploader

?

[viral gulch]

yea

[daring gale]

this will be possible yea

altho you'll lose ownership

but you can suggest a version

[viral gulch]

So my version wont be mine if I add it has a version of another emote

[daring gale]

well it depends

there is another thing that is diverged versions

a diverged version is essentially like a git branch, or a whole variant of an emote

it has its own emote object and therefore unique owner unlike regular versions

[viral gulch]

so like xmas versions?

[daring gale]

yeah

thats what it is for

[viral gulch]

Pog

[daring gale]

regular versions are for minor changes like fixing a few pixels, colors and whatever small thing that looks fucked up

those get pushed as updates to channels that utilize it

diverged versions are essentially a low level relation, it's a different emote structurally but has a parent and is semantically linked

[viral gulch]

Do you have ui made for this yet?

[daring gale]

upload UI is (mostly) done, i just need to finish the stuff on emote pages

https://7tv.dev/emotes/62216158ca0b0c65f3d282ac

see left pane

https://7tv.dev/emotes/622163143a34dbfb18c666ce

this is the same emote^ but linking to its other version

[viral gulch]

Will it say like add version then you paste in your version?

[daring gale]

(this is what you get when clicking on 'update")

[viral gulch]

I meant diverged versions sorry

[daring gale]

is not ready yet

well it's there in the API but i didnt add UI for that

[viral gulch]

Well looks great so far im excited for it

[novel portal]

now make it all colors and then swap them really fast

[inner sorrel]

[half glade]

Wait so each one can also have a description

[muted dew]

How are they both latest?

[daring gale]

they arent, just didnt factor in the timestamps

[daring gale]

will change the use/disable emote button into "switch version" when a different version is active instead of prompting for alias

[inner sorrel]

wtf

good feature 👍

[elder lichen]

[oblique inlet]

@daring gale I changed my name on Twitch and when ever I go onto my profile on 7tv.dev it says my profile doesn't exist, you mind if you can help me

[daring gale]

wdym?

[oblique inlet]

https://7tv.dev/users/60b015bce5a579561110d2a2 this is what happens when I go to my profile

[daring gale]

uh idk i'll check later

[oblique inlet]

Oh ok

[muted dew]

the first user

[oblique inlet]

Yea I have the oldest account on 7tv aswell

[daring gale]

@oblique inlet uh this is the same id as your production user

which doesnt make sense

[muted dew]

it doesnt show up for me

[daring gale]

stage is currently not using production data

[muted dew]

i didnt change my name

[daring gale]

it's a blank slate rn

[oblique inlet]

Is there any way to log out of it?

[daring gale]

i'll deploy a change, you're not actually logged in it's like a fake persisted identity (so that it doesnt show the "sign in" button while loading the page)

will remove it if auth fails

[oblique inlet]

ok

[daring gale]

Testing emote versioning NOW. Stage is currently running a blank slate and pointing to a non-production cdn

What to do

• Sign In
• Upload an emote (https://7tv.dev/emotes/create)
• Wait for it to finish processing. Post here if there are issues
• Click the "Update" button
• Create the version, similar to how you created the emote
  <@&857301549440696372>

You can't delete or edit a version currently; we are only testing the upload/creation process.

[inner sorrel]

NOW!

[oblique inlet]

[barren patrol]

[oblique inlet]

where is my emote

[inner sorrel]

it duplicated for some reason

[daring gale]

@inner sorrel

[inner sorrel]

i double clicked so maybe thats it

[barren patrol]

yeah it duplicated for me as well

[muted dew]

[barren patrol]

oh wait nvm i refreshed and its back to 1

[daring gale]

if you double click it will dupe yea

theres no check i think

[inner sorrel]

time to open my autoclicker

[barren patrol]

[daring gale]

it's encoding in avif, webp and gif so it can take some time for some

[muted dew]

does it encode gif for static?

[steel patio]

500

[inner sorrel]

that was a mistake

[oblique inlet]

explain

[inner sorrel]

https://7tv.dev/emotes/6224095e33c92ae45a340b84

[muted dew]

^ blind

[inner sorrel]

BRO LOOK AT IT

[oblique inlet]

Who uploaded an elehpant

[daring gale]

can you please not do that @inner sorrel

[inner sorrel]

i wont

[barren patrol]

[muted dew]

https://7tv.dev/emotes/6224094633c92ae45a340b64 works great

[inner sorrel]

it was for scientific purposes

[oblique inlet]

Anatole

[deft crane]

I did just a sample file 🙂

[oblique inlet]

how do you close the format thing

[deft crane]

was testing apng and gif

[daring gale]

does switching between versions work well?

[muted dew]

im assuming you just havent implemented it but there is no way of knowing if an emote is unlisted on the emote page

[daring gale]

i mean in terms of adding the emote to a set

[muted dew]

yes swapping works

[barren patrol]

yeah it does

[inner sorrel]

how does swapping work

[daring gale]

it's also possible to add multiple versions of the same emote if you use the ellipsis

it'll prompt you for an alias

[inner sorrel]

oh figured out

[daring gale]

you'll see a purple "switch to this version" button

[muted dew]

[deft crane]

@daring gale thumbnail is showing the wrong version

[lyric flare]

Can i close this?

[deft crane]

[oblique inlet]

why is this a thing Analtoe

[muted dew]

how did you open it

[daring gale]

on the cards? i know about that i'll fix to show the latest later

[deft crane]

ye

[daring gale]

refresh it's bugged on the new layout

[lyric flare]

under the Image Upload click Accepted Formats

[inner sorrel]

fuck

[steel patio]

how do I edit the name of an already uploaded version?

[inner sorrel]

you dont i guess

remove the version or something

is there a way to only remove a version?

[oblique inlet]

Anatole why can I not upload a minion episode

[muted dew]

you can alias but idk how to rename

[daring gale]

u never read my ping messages do you

[oblique inlet]

Spongebob epsiode*&

[inner sorrel]

i read it i already forgor tho

goldenfish memory

[daring gale]

needs to be below 1000 frames

[oblique inlet]

[lyric flare]

gif and png worked for me

[inner sorrel]

[peak tiger]

[steel patio]

if you click the file format thingy you can't close it

[inner sorrel]

summit1g guy

[lyric flare]

[inner sorrel]

same emote basically

[muted dew]

peepoSmile = Stare

[lyric flare]

luckily it's a test

[muted dew]

also yo mahcks

[lyric flare]

yo jeo

[muted dew]

front page doesnt show latest version

and when i click on it it brings me to 1st version

[daring gale]

yes i already said thats known

[muted dew]

oh

[daring gale]

so no issues at all with the upload process?

[barren patrol]

nope

[muted dew]

i got a width error

but ez fix

[daring gale]

yeah there are some slightly tighter limits imposed in order to ensure everything looks good

[inner sorrel]

there should be a way to choose the version which will show on the page

like lets say i uploaded a christmas one

i dont want the christmas one to be the front page one in march

[daring gale]

what you're talking about here are divergent versions

[barren patrol]

its ok you are just getting ready for Christmas ahead of time

[inner sorrel]

but then people arent gonna click on it

and are gonna try to look for the original

[daring gale]

these are regular versions, for minor fix ups like quality or whatever

divergent versions are for things like variants

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale not what we're talking about rn

but

the new site has no favicon

[inner sorrel]

didnt the versioning idea first start because of special date versions

[unkempt hill]

or manifest

[steel patio]

processing

[unkempt hill]

so theres no way for the browser to show an icon when favoriting or bookmarking on the ntp

[daring gale]

2 different concepts of versioning

[inner sorrel]

[steel patio]

https://7tv.dev/emotes/62240cf54f763b5d3296fab7

[inner sorrel]

good name

[steel patio]

coincidences

[inner sorrel]

its just a test things will happen

[daring gale]

it failed @steel patio

[inner sorrel]

[steel patio]

[inner sorrel]

oh

[daring gale]

whatd you upload?

[steel patio]

this file

[daring gale]

stdout F time="2022-03-06T01:23:17Z" level="error" msg="task failed 62240cf54f763b5d3296fab7: 4 errors occurred:\n\t* vipsthumbnail failed: signal: killed : \n\t* vipsthumbnail failed: signal: killed : \n\t* vipsthumbnail failed: signal: killed : \n\t* vipsthumbnail failed: signal: killed : \n\n" func="github.com/seventv/ImageProcessor/src/task.(*taskWorker).process" file="/tmp/images/src/task/listen.go:110"

interesting

might be an issue with video uploads

[steel patio]

I can try other vids

[daring gale]

sure

[steel patio]

oh it's probably just too big

[inner sorrel]

[steel patio]

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale is it no longer possible to rename an emote?

without reuploading it

[daring gale]

it'll be possible just isnt currently

[steel patio]

hmm yeah looks like video upload might be scuffed. https://7tv.dev/emotes/62240e0b4f763b5d3296fabd

[daring gale]

probably

if it says failed to load preview it means failure, there are no images on that emote

didnt add a specific screen for that yet

[pastel rune]

https://7tv.dev/emotes/6224107d4f763b5d3296fac4

[deft tangle]

The update button works. BeanCan to Skull https://i.imgur.com/qYvPklG.png

[bold hearth]

works great, good way to easily get holiday emotes!!!

maybe there could be a "holiday rotation" feature that automatically switches between emotes in a "version set" so streamers/editors don't have to remember to switch all of the emotes

[peak tiger]

This isnt even for holiday version its just for updating the emote there will be a different versioning system for divergent versions

[daring gale]

it's part of the same system but divergent versions are essentially versions that don't act as "updates"

under the hood it's actually its own emote object with relational bindings

[unkempt hill]

why the extra complexity?

when its going to function the same

unless it wont

also what if a emote is a divergent copy of a divergent copy and that copy has versions

are all combined into the same first emotes version list

[daring gale]

it doesnt function the same

regular versions don't have an emote object

[unkempt hill]

I mean like functionally

[daring gale]

they're part of the same emote that you initially created. to query this, the index versions.id is used instead of _id

this makes it very easy and fast, as effectively even though they seem like different emotes with diff. ids, they're the same except with a different image

[unkempt hill]

what benefit is there for divergent versions having a full object

[daring gale]

as for divergent versions technically they barely exist; it's just another emote getting referenced as a child

but these references will allow for things like switching all emotes to their christmas or whatever variant

[daring gale]

bc the concept of what's the "current" version is tied to a timestamp, but diverged versions aren't to be treated as updates. furthermore a diverged version, being expected to significantly differ from the original, may have versions of its own

[rich oak]

worked perfectly for me. i like this idea

[teal knoll]

@daring gale wait you can do .mp4 files to upload? or is it still by gif?

[oblique inlet]

You can do mp4

I tried

but I had too many frames

[teal knoll]

oh

ok

interesting

[oblique inlet]

Yea I broke your emote

[teal knoll]

ok

[steel patio]

mp4 is broken

try the other formats though

[teal knoll]

[cloud stag]

best page

[oblique inlet]

[glad lantern]

hey, is there a way to revert alias to original name? cant set alias to original name and it keeps old alias if i remove and add to channel again

[oblique inlet]

[cloud stag]

for the stage or production (7tv.dev / 7tv.app)

[glad lantern]

7tv.app

[cloud stag]

empty the field

[glad lantern]

not sure if i understand

[inner sorrel]

[glad lantern]

alright i try

[cloud stag]

and this isn't the chat for that

[inner sorrel]

just leave the alias box empty

[glad lantern]

omg sry i thought im in help

[inner sorrel]

its ok things happen

[cloud stag]

^

[polar magnet]

[bold hearth]

[deft crane]

ooh, I dig this new color scheme

[daring gale]

Looking to check basic functionality with the rewritten V2

Please try this:

• Load up https://7tv.dev/emotes and https://old.7tv.dev/emotes and sign in on both
• Load your profile on the next site
• Add/remove emotes via the old site
• Report your experience on whether you see your actions take effect from the old site to the next site

Optionally: try creating a new emote set on the next site, then changing your channel emote set (by clicking on the "twitch" connection bar on your profile). After doing that refresh your profile on the old site and see if your emotes have changed to match the new emote set.
<@&857301549440696372>

[mint shell]

[mortal token]

ERROR: TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'emote_ids')

[daring gale]

interesting

[teal knoll]

yep same error

[daring gale]

does it happen after refresh?

[teal knoll]

yeah

refreshed the old website still the same error

[daring gale]

do you have any emotes?

[teal knoll]

old site: https://old.7tv.dev/users/60532eaab4d31e459f727bcd

new site: https://7tv.dev/users/60532eaab4d31e459f727bcd

should i remove one just in case?

[eternal iron]

Having very narrow emotes pushed the emote set preview down a bit btw

[daring gale]

firefox moment

[teal knoll]

[eternal iron]

im on chrome

[teal knoll]

[ruby otter]

same error to me
i refresh and even loged out and loged back in

[daring gale]

yea weird error i'll try to see whats going on there

seems like the api is returning the emote_ids field as null

[charred surge]

broke everything

[daring gale]

can anyone with knowledge of the dev console check if this is true?

network tab, analyze the request after clicking the button

check for emote_ids and if it's null

[untold aspen]

[teal knoll]

i dunno if this helps but

[daring gale]

oh

[teal knoll]

tried adding this https://old.7tv.dev/emotes/60e6ff484af5311ddcadae45

[mint shell]

{"errors":[{"message":"[70403] insufficient privilege","path":["addChannelEmote"]}],"data":{"addChannelEmote":null}}```

[daring gale]

i completely forgot to add a default role

[finite monolith]

ERROR: TypeError: T.user is null when trying to add an emote on the old 7tv page

[daring gale]

try now

[finite monolith]

also is it just me or is the new emote search box kinda scuffed

[teal knoll]

same error

[daring gale]

it is a little bit

shouldn't be the same error now

[woeful stirrup]

it works

[daring gale]

permissions are correct

[mint shell]

worked

[finite monolith]

works for me

[mortal token]

insta removes it on new for me

no refresh needed

[finite monolith]

hmm seems like i need refresh

[mint shell]

emote does not transfer to new page

[teal knoll]

i still cant get it to work

[finite monolith]

oh i do not need to refresh it just takes time

[teal knoll]

oh ok

[finite monolith]

it takes like what

5 seconds

for it to synchronize or whatever

[daring gale]

think it's because you have ugandan internet

[finite monolith]

7 seconds

[merry elk]

guys what are we testing?

[teal knoll]

we are testing ways to fuck your mom

[finite monolith]

i do not have ugandan internet

[daring gale]

the event payloads are a bit big atm

[teal knoll]

[merry elk]

Ok I’ll be testing so I don’t get my role taken again

Wait shit

[teal knoll]

@daring gale i still get that error

[finite monolith]

try ctrl + f5 refreshing

[teal knoll]

ERROR: TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'emote_ids')

[merry elk]

@daring gale I’m sorry I can’t test right now, I’m on my way to school and don’t want to have to go through logging in and shit. I’ll do it later and report in tho

[daring gale]

f12 -> network -> click button and click on last request -> give me the result

[teal knoll]

[daring gale]

fairly self explanatory

[teal knoll]

[daring gale]

though the old site doesnt understand this

[mint shell]

ok adding and removing emotes transfers to the new site now 👍 everything works

[daring gale]

i'll fix the result being null though so it doesnt give out a javascript error

[teal knoll]

lemme know when to try to add an emote

[daring gale]

just add an emote that you dont already have @teal knoll

[teal knoll]

oh ok

[daring gale]

anyone can test the optional aspect i pointed out?

about swapping emote sets and checking profile on the old site

[finite monolith]

how do you even do that

[merry elk]

@daring gale wait so is this v3 or is it like v2(v2)

[daring gale]

it's v3, but essentially with a simulated v2

the old site is querying "v3" that is being dumbed down to v2 format

[merry elk]

ohh

[teal knoll]

works perfectly

[finite monolith]

is there like a button somewhere

[mortal token]

yes works,

old site reflected the new emote set

[daring gale]

@finite monolith you can create an emote set by clicking the ellipsis on emote pages of the new site

then click create emote set

[finite monolith]

oh

[daring gale]

use the cog here to swap it

[merry elk]

[finite monolith]

works perfectly

[merry elk]

Oh yea, will there be a way to remove connected accounts on v3

I accidentally added my YouTube to my profile and I can’t remove it

[daring gale]

yes youll be able to unlink and link accounts

[merry elk]

Alright, thanks

[finite monolith]

i start recording in obs and everything starts to work perfectly and without any delay

great

[merry elk]

Anal toe put out a force fix

That’s why

[daring gale]

can people also confirm if setting an alias on the old site work?

[teal knoll]

ill check

[woeful stirrup]

it works

[teal knoll]

FUCKING MKV

[daring gale]

nice

[teal knoll]

btw shouldnt there be the alias name in the emote?

[daring gale]

wdym

[woeful stirrup]

no alias under the name in catkiss tab

[teal knoll]

see how there isnt a alias name on the new website vs the old?

[daring gale]

on the emote page? it should say "as <your alias>" under

but it doesnt look like you have the same emote set selected

[teal knoll]

oh

wait what? are you sure?

[daring gale]

?

[teal knoll]

[daring gale]

no not here

not your channel set

[teal knoll]

OHHHH

[daring gale]

the one you have as default when enabling emotes

[teal knoll]

yeah yeah i see it now

this is what you meant right?

[teal knoll]

OHHHH

ok im stupid

i see it now

[rich oak]

Oh yeah it works alright. The issue I see is when I click the set it hows no emotes inside but you already know that.

[rich oak]

I just noticed I like that right click add to channel idea.

[oblique inlet]

I hate your emote sets

[rich oak]

XD

[oblique inlet]

want to make me set when they come out

[rich oak]

yeah sure lol

Imagine being mid stream and changing your 7tv emote set to all peppe emotes in chat. This idea reinvents Twitch itself. Or an entire different category of emotes. My plan is to one day place a channel point redemption that changes from one emote set to another so that chat decides which sets to use. Giving them unlimited power over the sets I allow them to use.

[inner sorrel]

Imagine being mid stream and changing your 7tv emote set to all peppe emotes in chat. This idea reinvents Twitch itself. Or an entire different category of emotes. My plan is to one day place a channel point redemption that changes from one emote set to another so that chat decides which sets to use. Giving them unlimited power over the sets I allow them to use.

[rich oak]

Anatole has thought of it all. Emote name conflict. I love it.

[merry elk]

Imagine being mid stream and changing your 7tv emote set to all peppe emotes in chat. This idea reinvents Twitch itself. Or an entire different category of emotes. My plan is to one day place a channel point redemption that changes from one emote set to another so that chat decides which sets to use. Giving them unlimited power over the sets I allow them to use.

[scarlet rover]

least horny twitch viewer

[inner sorrel]

Too late loluae

[crude forge]

Who's @ing me here

[oblique inlet]

Anatole

[peak tiger]

#stage-discussion message

[crude forge]

Oh

[rich oak]

Pepe & Borpa Set

[cloud stag]

Imagine being mid stream and changing your 7tv emote set to all peppe emotes in chat. This idea reinvents Twitch itself. Or an entire different category of emotes. My plan is to one day place a channel point redemption that changes from one emote set to another so that chat decides which sets to use. Giving them unlimited power over the sets I allow them to use.

[daring gale]

@rich oak just a heads up all the emote sets you create on stage are eventually going to be deleted when the dataset is changed, just making sure you know

[rich oak]

@daring gale thats ok thanks for letting me know. At least I have an idea of what this can do

[elder lichen]

you could copy all the emote ids/urls to a text file until v3 comes out and then you could remake it without having to remember each emote

[rich oak]

that is a great idea @elder lichen if only I knew how to understand metadata more maybe I could of just pulled a list out or something of all those url's instead of having to go to each and every one and grabbing them.

[gloomy totem]

I could probs write a python script to grab emote IDs if I could peep at the v3 API if it's available, couldn't be bothered to do twitch auth to add them back though.

[rich oak]

@gloomy totem I'm tasting the rainbow already. Script to grab ID's godly

[teal knoll]

i dunno if this is a good spot for suggestions for v3 but i think it could be cool to have an implementation to the emotes that are placed like a top 10 type thing but most of the emotes that are on the emote page (s)

[teal knoll]

could be cool?

its just a suggestion its not like theyll add it or anything

right?

[polar magnet]

popular = good

[daring gale]

try switching pages and let me know if it feels faster than before https://7tv.dev/emotes

just did another rounds of optimzation. the internal query time is average 5ms, so the time it takes to switch pages should be almost entirely depending on how far from the european continent you are

<@&857301549440696372> 🤜 🔔

[river kelp]

[teal knoll]

slow

[cerulean cove]

🔔

[scarlet rover]

[teal knoll]

Searching...
Sorry, it seems this is taking a while

[sterile stream]

seems fast to me

[cerulean cove]

its omegafast for me too

[teal knoll]

ok just had to refresh

very fast

[potent summit]

fast for non eu connection

[cerulean cove]

[strong ledge]

It do be zoomin'

[potent summit]

184ms to finish the last emote to load

[sterile stream]

emotes insta loaded for me

[scarlet rover]

Emotes page takes forever

unlucky

[cerulean cove]

@scarlet rover guy

[scarlet rover]

ok its loaded now

[daring gale]

wdym?

[scarlet rover]

it kept

but loaded now and its fast

[teal knoll]

[sinful forum]

[solid tusk]

Smash that @stage boy 🔔

Ding ding

[daring gale]

nice what region are you from?

[teal knoll]

NA

[daring gale]

my man

[scarlet rover]

[teal knoll]

not bad for NA so

👍

[daring gale]

we should be able to get NA servers eventually

[teal knoll]

[potent summit]

[scarlet rover]

i refreshed and took 17s to load emotes page

[teal knoll]

seems really good for me so far if those NA servers come

HOOOOLY

[scarlet rover]

unlucky

[solid tusk]

Isnt that pp is spinning upside down?

[teal knoll]

[scarlet rover]

[teal knoll]

oh true

[daring gale]

this is how it is from EU with gigabit internet btw

[teal knoll]

the should be flipped

way too fast

[scarlet rover]

flexing

[daring gale]

as in the emote list?

[scarlet rover]

https://7tv.dev/emotes

[daring gale]

dont think it's possible for it to take that long unless your internet is derping

[teal knoll]

do a speedtest?

[scarlet rover]

might be my internet

[daring gale]

does it take that long to load the site, or it's 17s on the

[potent summit]

can be your addons too

[teal knoll]

true

could be

[scarlet rover]

80Mbps on fast.com, yeah its might be my internet problem

[teal knoll]

could be internet

lemme try that on fast.com

[scarlet rover]

[teal knoll]

im getting 8.9 mbps

[scarlet rover]

[teal knoll]

try speedtest.net

[scarlet rover]

same thing, u get high Mbps on speedtest.net because it uses your local server

[teal knoll]

only show this part

[scarlet rover]

unless u change it to another server

[teal knoll]

not the whole cuz

maybe...

just do the one closest to you

[teal knoll]

btw only show this part not all of it cuz itll leak your ip

[daring gale]

[scarlet rover]

[teal knoll]

ok dude

you didnt have to flex like that

[scarlet rover]

10$/month internet

[teal knoll]

should load fine for you then

[scarlet rover]

maybe i should try vpn

[teal knoll]

maybe

[scarlet rover]

[teal knoll]

try that

and if not just keep refreshing the website till something comes up

[scarlet rover]

[teal knoll]

[scarlet rover]

okay like 0.2s to load now with vpn

my internet then

unlucky

[teal knoll]

could be then

[scarlet rover]

[untold aspen]

0 bitches?

[teal knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/foss-no-bitches-no-hoes-0bitches-no-gif-24529727

[haughty maple]

@scarlet rover

[scarlet rover]

[solid tusk]

Too slow my ping is -5

[solid tusk]

Real?
When? Where? Who? What? How?

[scarlet rover]

real, since forever, vietnam, me, internet, idk

[solid tusk]

Thanks

[lunar fable]

This is how it is for me

[oblique inlet]

how are you swapped so fast

[lunar fable]

right arrow

[oblique inlet]

oh

[scarlet rover]

[daring gale]

seems good aside from the long wait to load images after that rapid page swap; i thought browsers handled this but i guess i'll have to manually cancel image downloads

[lunar fable]

ye it seems like it loads all the images on the previous pages too

opening up an emote after those rapid swaps

makes that 1 emote load slow as well

[daring gale]

i'll go test something

[lunar fable]

Like, swap to page 40 quickly

then click on 1 emote

[oblique inlet]

It takes me around 1 second to load a page of emotes

[scarlet rover]

its much faster for me now without vpn

weird

[daring gale]

@lunar fable can you try now? i made several improvements to the emote list and how it loads images. most importantly it should now cancel the download of previous pages

[clear spoke]

i had to flex too

[daring gale]

14Tbps

[inner sorrel]

Are you feeling Pogpega today mr tole?

[ruby otter]

looking good

[lunar fable]

I'll try it once I'm home

[finite monolith]

feels faster than usual

actually

[muted dew]

forsensway has no preview but shows in channel pages

[daring gale]

it's probably a deleted emote

dataset is little over a week old

[muted dew]

oh ok

[rich oak]

It feels great so much faster. Now I can add lewd emotes even faster

[polar magnet]

I noticed that when scrolling pages with the arrow keys, it only changes pages when you release the key

is this intentional?

It also might feel better if you could hold a key to scroll through page numbers very fast

(because it's not like there's a way to jump to a specific page number)

[daring gale]

there'll be a way to jump to a page, notice how the url is missing parameters too (which means you pressing back brings you to page 1 instead of last page you were on)

it's not 100% finished since ive spent the past few days readying v2 in order to deploy into production

production deploy is the priority atm, once that's done im gonna get the next site fully polished

[polar magnet]

I don't want to sound like I'm wanting all these things NOW 😡 👇

I just want to provide input to maybe keep in the back of your mind when you get around to implementing stuff

It already looks good and works well

[daring gale]

yea all good im not telling you off i actually tend to guide priorities by what people are asking for

[polar magnet]

Well I just wanted to be clear

I know you'll probably come up with other good ideas while you're working on it too.

Maybe something I wouldn't think of while only looking at the current version

[muted dew]

is there gonna be a section on profile pages to see emotes they created

[cloud stag]

I'm losing my will to live seeing your messages

small bug but because my keyboard moves up it essentially makes the webpage smaller limiting the number of results I get back

7tv.dev is so nice on mobile though

way better than 7tv.app

[lunar fable]

It is very quick now

[mortal token]

.dev so much faster

[muted dew]

woah

total redesign on front page

[winged jolt]

[scarlet rover]

holy

[inner sorrel]

[sinful forum]

🤙 IM GONNA TEEEEEEST

[barren patrol]

[tepid owl]

this prolly already been answered but none of my emotes exist when i made an emote set

like if i click on one of those nothing shows up

[daring gale]

You selected the new set as your channel one

You can change your channel set via the twitch connection button on the left

[tepid owl]

OHHHHHH

👍

[worn granite]

before you were able to show more emotes when zooming out

[worn granite]

is that removed?

[daring gale]

no

[still fulcrum]

Have 3 potential things to review:

Device: Macbook using Google Chrome

First thing
STR:
1: Navigate to a user's page with a lot of emotes enabled (https://7tv.dev/users/6058c630b4d31e459faae649)

2: Scroll out / Shrink page (cmd + shift + -)

Expected: More emotes are shown
Actual: 10 pages of emotes

Note: Limiting emotes is potentially good for performance reasons! So I get why this may be the case.

Second thing
STR:
1: Navigate to a user's page with a lot of emotes enabled (https://7tv.dev/users/6058c630b4d31e459faae649)

2: Use arrow keys to navigate through pages of emotes

Expected: Array of emotes shown will change from page 1 to page 2
Actual: Arrow Keys are not enabled on user profile pages to scroll through pages of emotes

Third thing
STR:
1: Navigate to a user's page
(https://7tv.dev/users/6058c630b4d31e459faae649)

2: Observe Emote Sets contains emotes

3. Navigate to emote set https://7tv.dev/emote-sets/622696c68b5e99ae5009d839

Expected: Page shows Emotes in Emote Set
Actual: Page is empty

Note: Perhaps environment issue, data not populated yet in .dev or feature still in development

[daring gale]

1: emotes shown on user pages don't scale with screen size, at least not yet
2: arrow keys don't yet work on user pages
3: it's not done and placeholder

[still fulcrum]

Filter Functionality in Emote Screen / No Params in URL / Unlisted Emotes showing
STR:
1: Nav to Emotes Page https://7tv.dev/emotes

Observation/Note no filtering options (0-width only, etc)

2: Nav to page 1909

Observation/Note no query params in url, so harder for users to go back to where they were browsing for new emotes (editing ?page=45 for example was a great way for users to easily jump back to a page they wanted to nav to if just browsing through all of the emotes

Expected: Unlisted emotes aren't shown
Actual: Unlisted emotes shown

[daring gale]

this is because these emotes aren't actually unlisted on this dataset, it uses the old "unlisted" bit flag which has been removed

[still fulcrum]

makes sense!

I assume query params will be gone due to the nature of the new v3 architecture

and filtering is TODO or moved

Regex could be nice for searching if easily supported

[unkempt hill]

tf is happening here?

if its actually a broken upload then why would an editor for lacari have switched it on the stage

and also why is it not showing failed to load preview

[daring gale]

@unkempt hill troy was testing as i was showing him the site. the images don't load because theyve been uploaded to the stage cdn, while the site is linked to the production cdn

[still fulcrum]

Are personal global emotes going to be in the scope for initial V3 release? Was thinking about how emote prio would work for same name emotes

[daring gale]

Depends what you think of initial release as, technically it's releasing in a matter of weeks, maybe days as the simulated v2 is nearly complete

though only partially

as for whether the official release of the v3 api for public use and deprecation of v2 will contain personal emotes it's unknown yet

it depends on an external service (the IRC Operator) which is in a design phase

though i'd say it's likely; because the IRC operator is also a dependency for how cosmetics work in v3 generally

[still fulcrum]

Ahhhhh I see I see

That's a really clear picture, thank you Anatole

[daring gale]

those with 1080p monitors, can you confirm you see 4 columns (instead of 3) on https://7tv.dev/emotes

resized the container a little so it'd fit more emotes on low resolution monitors

[steel patio]

"low"

yeah I see 4

[daring gale]

1080p in 2022 is pretty low yea

[steel patio]

I have 3x 1080 tho

[daring gale]

i have 1080p 1440p and 2160p

it's actually useful for making responsive designs

[steel patio]

yeah that's smart for dev work

[daring gale]

does it lag at all when switching pages?

prob does a little bit

[steel patio]

not really lag, takes like 1s to load though

[daring gale]

yea thats no surprise

[steel patio]

when I resize back down to single 1080 though, it gives me a scroll bar

I suppose that's better than throwing away my position

[daring gale]

yeah changing window size doesnt reload the page like on the old site, figured that behavior was more confusing

[steel patio]

yeah I like that better

[oblique inlet]

so many emotes

[worn granite]

[teal knoll]

really like the new homepage

is this color gonna be a animated bg?

or hue or whatever?

[inner sorrel]

My cock
1080p is fine

[unkempt hill]

finally away to show all the emotes bidoof has added to cyrs channel

[inner sorrel]

next-gen image formats!

[tepid owl]

4k monitor at 50% page size

[scarlet rover]

people flexing their monitor in here?

[oblique inlet]

this guy gonna pull out the 3 4k ultra wide curved monitors

[polar magnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/837069343074156604.gif?size=48

suggestion...

[daring gale]

is this in horizontal mode

[polar magnet]

I believe it's called "landscape"

but yes

you can tell by the white bar at the bottom

[muted dew]

Dank menu buttons are hard too see

[daring gale]

there's supposed to be a darkened background there

but i think it's broken on the home page currently

[rain bolt]

no way to get out of this from what i have experienced

stumbles ui flow a bit, not too big of a deal though

[muted dew]

thats been an issue for a while

thought that would have been fixxed

[daring gale]

[deft tangle]

[daring gale]

to test vod support make sure to disable ffz as it otherwise will overwrite it

[deft tangle]

checking rn

ios there an optiuon i need to check for vod chat?

[abstract axle]

I noticed the emote menu button disappeared (7tv settings button at top still present and hide emote menu option not checked)

[deft tangle]

Am I supposed to have a chat box on VODs? https://i.imgur.com/3Z42hnZ.jpeg

this is 2.2.0 with ffz off

[daring gale]

yes? vods have chat replay

[deft tangle]

otherwise, all the emotes seem to work

[daring gale]

that's native to twitch

[daring gale]

what page is that?

what browser and other extensions on

[deft tangle]

I thought "add support for chat in VOD" meant bringing back ability to add new chat messages to VODs, like on old twitch

[daring gale]

no it means support for emotes

[deft tangle]

Yeah, emotes look good

[woeful stirrup]

Send same message twice not working for emotes

[deft tangle]

Although i remember them always working

[abstract axle]

happens on any stream. I have ffz enabled as well

[daring gale]

uh

[deft tangle]

same message twice works for me

you have to spam it a little, but it adds the invisible character

[daring gale]

what browser and other extensions pls

[abstract axle]

and I'm on Chrome Version 100.0.4896.75

[woeful stirrup]

Chrome Version 100.0.4896.88

[daring gale]

@abstract axle does it work if you disable ffz?

also is it consistent

do you never see the button even after refreshes?

[abstract axle]

lemme try

not consistent sometimes its there sometimes it isnt

[daring gale]

and any errors in console (f12)

[deft tangle]

oh yeah wtf it is actually 50% inconsistentn

https://i.imgur.com/ObMKEQi.png

[abstract axle]

yes there's errors one sec

Let me try disabling ffz

[deft tangle]

i have errors but they have nothing to do with 7tv

[daring gale]

these errors are unrelated

[deft tangle]

ye

Im not getting errors when im spamming the emotes

So idk

[daring gale]

@abstract axle can you enable verbose logging from here

[deft tangle]

didnt add much besides all the paint debugs

[daring gale]

check for debug messages such as saying it's retrying

[abstract axle]

works everytime with ffz disabled

[daring gale]

i can reproduce

gonna look, seems like the button gets removed if FFZ loads too late

[deft tangle]

alright cool

[woeful stirrup]

also cant seem to tab-complete twitch emotes

new troll

[polar magnet]

sodapoppin banned

[inner sorrel]

who?

[woeful stirrup]

@daring gale maybe should add a space before the special character

[daring gale]

there is normally but i'll test further

do you ctrl+enter or up-arrow enter?

[woeful stirrup]

up-arrow enter

[daring gale]

alright maybe its broken for that

i mainly tested ctrl+enter

[woeful stirrup]

there's ctrl+enter?

[deft tangle]

ctrl enter??

[daring gale]

yes similar to chatterino

it keeps your current message in chat

so you can keep spamming it

[polar magnet]

control enter is much easier

[deft tangle]

does it only work on 2.2.0?

[daring gale]

it's been there before but was broken with the twitch update

[deft tangle]

HMM...

[woeful stirrup]

hmm i cant seem to use ctrl + enter

[deft tangle]

lol

ctrl enter just spams the invis character

wait you can just straight up send blank messages now

[woeful stirrup]

ive seen ppl do it before

[deft tangle]

but this is not intentional

using ctrl enter to spam blank messages

https://i.imgur.com/EdC5DgU.png

[polar magnet]

imagine if twitch banned invisible characters as hard as discord does for usernames

[deft tangle]

discord does that?

lmao

[polar magnet]

they have slowly banned every exploitable unicode character

[deft tangle]

https://i.imgur.com/rSJnbx0.png yeah, for me, ctrl enter just does the little invisible character.

[woeful stirrup]

[deft tangle]

my fellow gatorboy

[woeful stirrup]

i dont watch rob that often now
used to love the rp lobbies

[unkempt hill]

they've banned, almost every one of them

chatterino and 7tv use a character that most font renderers consider to be inside the tag block

[polar magnet]

almost? You know of some that aren't banned yet?

[unkempt hill]

but is not technically reserved

[polar magnet]

Oh you mean on twitch

that's clever tbh

[unkempt hill]

twitch blocks every other character in the tag block

but theres a few

[polar magnet]

Could they block this one at some point too?

[unkempt hill]

back when we were trying to think of an implementation for personals a while ago I found some more invis chars

yea they could

[polar magnet]

if they did that, the solution would be to add a fully transparent 1x1 pixel global emote

zero-width as well

[unkempt hill]

or you know just like add a period to the end of the message

[polar magnet]

.

[unkempt hill]

in a predictable way that other clients could delete

but wouldnt be obtrusive for non clients

[polar magnet]

wouldn't too bad

but I still think it would be better to have an emote. The name can be something like

DOWNLOAD7TVTONOTSHOWTHISTEXT

[unkempt hill]

but why

[polar magnet]

[scarlet rover]

hold ctrl enter for awhile will make 7tv forget my last input and send a blank instead

also Ctrl + Enter(single tap) not working when the "Your message is identical" show up, have to hold both buttons or Enter without Ctrl

happen when i spam twitch emotes, works fine with text/3rd party emotes

[daring gale]

it's because theres a weird character getting inserted by twitch

i'm gonna run some fixes on this and see if i can make it as stable as before

Maybe in the future i'll consider using my own Slate instance and overwrite twitch's, it's really difficult to hook into

[scarlet rover]

[abstract axle]

can confirm the "- Twitch: The "Show Timeouts & Bans" option will now disable itself while acting as a moderator" works great now, thanks for adding that

[worn granite]

i just started it up and i got this

[rich oak]

i got this error

[daring gale]

It's not an error lol

[daring gale]

Ended up going straight for the IRC. Extension now modifies the irc message before it's sent rather than at the input level

Gonna send another test build, should make spam pretty stable

[scarlet rover]

spam not working at all, i enabled the settings, ctrl f5, still not work

[nocturne juniper]

[daring gale]

did you disable any other version of the extension

[scarlet rover]

oh i willtry again

working smoothly

[daring gale]

[steel patio]

this obviously works in firefox

The ctrl + enter thing functions properly

[steel patio]

oh I didn't check the vod thing

it worky

[daring gale]

[inner sorrel]

:Pogpega:

[daring gale]

might be good to go, will wait to see if a few others can report their experience

[inner sorrel]

Im coming back home in a bit

[steel patio]

I noticed the show time outs thing auto disable when you're mod works too

very nice feature

[daring gale]

i made the messages more compact as well so they only take one line

and should no longer be duplicated

[steel patio]

I didn't see any dupes in the short time I tested it

I mean I'm still testing it

[daring gale]

you can actually keep it on until it goes live, that way if you find any glaring issues while using twitch normally i can fix it

it should be live on firefox tonight but chrome will throttle it by like 4-5 days

[deft tangle]

Sweeet

VOD thing works for me

And so does spam!

[north plover]

2.2.0-test-spam version

[daring gale]

interesting

what other extensions do you have on?

[north plover]

bttv and ffz

and i'm using it on google chrome

[fervent geode]

[fervent geode]

can i get the role

[sinful forum]

role on deez nuts

[full marten]

[sinful forum]

hey i think the channel is undefined

[north plover]

[daring gale]

May be doing a general functionality test on the simulated v2 tomorrow, with an extension and chatterino build pointing to the stage

Goal is to ensure it behaves the same way as the current live version

[teal knoll]

what would be new on the chatterino build? or is it just be functionality on chatterino with 7tv?

[daring gale]

It's just changing the api endpoint

[teal knoll]

[whole stream]

I'm interested in the next stage testing

[celest kelp]

I'm interested in stage testing

[winged jolt]

just wait for anatole to ping the stage tester role

[grizzled vessel]

Role pls

[eternal iron]

click the 🚧 in #864456490806149130

[teal knoll]

it doesnt work anymore

i gave it to him

[eternal iron]

oh

[grizzled vessel]

[teal knoll]

yea

[cinder adder]

gib role

[willow cedar]

role pls (i love femboys)

[drowsy shuttle]

^

[warped egret]

if you are a stage tester but you're not constantly changing and modifying emotes

can you really test the test

[drowsy shuttle]

[latent vessel]

May I get role

[merry elk]

stage tester role please, i left because i'm a dumbass and want to help again cause the other services are a scam

[teal knoll]

[merry elk]

honestly it was fun to fuck around with the stage build okay lmao

[teal knoll]

[merry elk]

thanks <3

[teal knoll]

no problem

[mental crystal]

could I have that role por favor

[harsh wagon]

nice name

[sinful forum]

i think hes a poki fan

[junior spade]

can i have the role as well? id like to helpp

[serene leaf]

id be happy to help test if you need it

[quasi ore]

same here

[amber cloak]

how long is approved by emotions moderators?

[steel patio]

[unkempt hill]

joins

says broken english question in wrong channel

leaves

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[inner sorrel]

[muted dew]

Giggle cheese

[winged jolt]

[tawdry sky]

GIVE HIM MODS RIGHT NOW

[eternal iron]

how long is approved by emotions?

[worn granite]

how short depricated and depressed emoticons moderators?

[warped egret]

emotions

[compact raven]

Could I have the role id be happy to help if you need someone ?

[wanton ocean]

can I have the role 🙂

[inner sorrel]

#864456490806149130