paint-discussions

[unkempt parrot]

[runic root]

[dry plume]

[tender apex]

[night mist]

(7TV) New 7TV paint: CS2 Gold - https://s.lilb.dev/vPZti

[toxic harness]

clanker

[rotund verge]

Wtf were quests bro

I didn't see any of that shit until now

God this sucked ass

What a waste of money

[honest carbon]

[spare field]

skill issue

[honest carbon]

they literally had timers on them too, how u miss them

[rotund verge]

Because the site sucked ass

[honest carbon]

user error = this sucked ass

[thorn ivy]

i think its a you problem ngl

[spare field]

how did it suck bro what

[austere goblet]

dude u cant say it was a waste of money, when there was literally a pop up everytime when there was a new quest

what are u saying bro

[rotund verge]

I didn't get any popup

Nonone clicked my stupid ass referral link either

[austere goblet]

u are not the only one bro and u didnt even needed ref to get BP

[arctic fable]

Me when I get mad at something people aren't required to do

[honest carbon]

oh no

+5000 points for you

[thorn ivy]

did you use somone's referral link?

[austere goblet]

dont act like u payed 200 dollars for this event, it was 5, chill a bit dude

[rotund verge]

I wanted that red paint 😭

[thorn ivy]

well, you wouldnt even need any referals or quests to get that

[honest carbon]

shouldve done quests + placed pickems too then

[austere goblet]

u could easily get red, when u just do the pickems

and not even all of them

[rotund verge]

I only missed a few of them

[honest carbon]

in this chat, people who know cs shared knowledge

and pretty much every pick was right

[toxic harness]

W chat

[honest carbon]

we couldnt have helped more if we tried

doesnt mean the event is bad

[rotund verge]

I had no idea there was quests idk how the fuck I missed them

[spare field]

did u even pick winners bro

[daring marsh]

[fleet bay]

diamond paint

[steel saddle]

bro picked the first 8

and then didnt do anything lmao

[rotund verge]

No I picked more than that. But I did miss the final 500 😭

I might be clinically blind

[austere goblet]

dont say that the event was bad and the website sucked ass, when its literally your fault

[thorn ivy]

i mean, it was 1 scroll down

[rotund verge]

I know I'm just sad

[steel saddle]

there was a pop up for quests tho

bottom right

[stoic cipher]

go again next time 🌝

[steel saddle]

pretty big

[thorn ivy]

true

[dry plume]

[rotund verge]

I really don't remember seeing any popups

I also picked psp as my streamer and I think that fucked me cause he didn't get the pass which means I lost out on points there too

[steel saddle]

that was only 100 points

[thorn ivy]

that was only 100 points

[rotund verge]

Ah

[steel saddle]

and there was a pop up brosky

[rotund verge]

👨‍🦯

[shrewd talon]

Shit happens, next time u'll get em

[steel saddle]

yup

[rotund verge]

I'll try harder next time

[thorn ivy]

this discord channel is the place to be for next year, everyone helping each other out

[steel saddle]

i got cs gold <3

[thorn ivy]

i wouldve never gotten that many points if i weren't in here

[steel saddle]

same

[near lichen]

where badges

[bitter field]

agree with this comment

[unkempt parrot]

relax broski

[shrewd talon]

gone forever

[safe folio]

[dry plume]

taking advice from this discord channel will lose you 500 points from the final pick

[bitter field]

btw does anyone know the reason why black pearl paint only shows up on chrome and not on firefox or brave browser?

[near lichen]

im just asking

[dry plume]

still got 5000 points with the advice tho

[steel saddle]

this dc gives advice, u dont have to take it

[dry plume]

im aware, i was just memeing

[tender apex]

[stiff charm]

wish there was a silver tier this year 😭 would've loved the silver badge :p but hey! at least we got the 3125 points life could be worse

[floral crown]

i gave advice to pick Dima in final 🙁

[dry plume]

if duwap didnt throw the last match

[honest carbon]

+1

wanted the silver

idk why it wasnt included

[tall skiff]

Can someone help me? I achieved this, but I only got paints (CS2 Event Viewer (2h) and CS2 Ruby Predictor

[dry plume]

theyre still paying out rewards

just wait a few hours

[spare field]

u had diamond from before?

[steel saddle]

i think now only badges remain

[spare field]

i just got my diamond

[steel saddle]

i got diamond just now

[loud stone]

[tender apex]

😄

[charred crag]

[tender apex]

Thanks Kira!

Received CS2 Diamond

[charred crag]

Yay!!!

[steel saddle]

WW

[spare field]

[dry plume]

same

[tall skiff]

Ah, I understand now thanks for the help!

[rapid grotto]

Got the color, now waiting on the badge

[last drum]

[tender apex]

[mild pewter]

[spare field]

[honest carbon]

[clever lintel]

[thorn ivy]

glorp waiting

[toxic harness]

[tender apex]

[lyric pivot]

Hell ye

[river juniper]

[unkempt parrot]

her me out

so cool

[toxic harness]

just in time for Halloween

[dry plume]

[keen bronze]

[toxic harness]

the pumpkin is so good

[tender apex]

diamond badge received

WW

[dry plume]

[keen bronze]

finally!!!!

[dim lagoon]

W 7tv staff for paying it out so quick

[thorn ivy]

W

[toxic harness]

W

[dim lagoon]

thanks for the great event 🙏

[rapid grotto]

ggs yall

cya arround

[dim lagoon]

yes #paint-discussions great week

[safe folio]

thx for event 7tv

[tender apex]

thx for event 7tv

[keen bronze]

very good event! thanks 7tv

[honest carbon]

^

[opal wave]

W staff indeed

[narrow sun]

WWW

[young pumice]

I got my stuff too. Thank you 7TV for hosting this event. Was fun to watch.

[errant coral]

so i wanna ask if i can change my choice.. i chose the black paint badge and paint, but now i regret.. i rather wanna the Platin Badge/Paint. do i have a chance to swap that?

[crystal narwhal]

Probably not. I regret my choice too, but it is what it is. Black Pearl looked better in the website preview vs how it shows in chat, especially when using Chatterino

Back to using Domos 2024

[crimson pasture]

WW mods.
Got my cosmetics already

[restive garden]

yeah i wanted to get diamond since i didnt get it last event but already have winter paint and they looks pretty similar so i chose the black pearl instead, but on twitch darkmode cant really see much eventually i went back to using winter paint

[nocturne hill]

Blackpearl lowkey looks like the 10 gifter paint from the Minecraft event

[steel dome]

one reason i went with diamond

happy to finally be united with my diamond predictor badge and paint

[nocturne hill]

Diamond one sucks tho

[steel dome]

coping

[nocturne hill]

The paint is beautiful, literally one of the only paints i’ve ever wanted badly

[restive garden]

enchanted glint and enchanted netherite looks better ngl lol

[nocturne hill]

Wdym

Oh

[steel dome]

beautiful

[nocturne hill]

Yea it does

[nocturne hill]

Ehh

Can you change your reward or not

[steel dome]

im a bit blue & purple fan

[steel dome]

not anymore

[nocturne hill]

[steel dome]

maybe if u ask support

maybe they’re nice

[bitter field]

black pearl badge looks lidl version of enchanted glint

[nocturne hill]

Yea

I requested to change, probably won’t let me

[fickle sedge]

gold > ruby
diamond >> BP

[civic matrix]

I have a question why I got the CS2 dia badge and also the color when I got 3200 points in event?

[thin meteor]

What do you want changed? and whats your 7tv id or twitch username

[thin meteor]

You selected a preference of diamond instead of the default black pearl

[toxic harness]

it's either diamond or bp, not both

[fickle sedge]

W 7tv team btw

[thin meteor]

What do you want changed? Whats your 7tv id or twitch username

[civic matrix]

I chose diamond because I didn't have the opportunity to choose pearl..

[thin meteor]

yeah default was pearl tell me what you want changed for each tier and your 7tv id or twitch username

[nocturne hill]

Disagree on ruby

[fickle sedge]

pearl was default chioce

[civic matrix]

@thin meteor is it still possible to change it? Here this is my profile https://7tv.app/users/01HB75QXM0000EY75ATHMFD0VG

[nocturne hill]

I made a request in #1432760524063641610 as I thought nobody would read in here. ❤️

[civic matrix]

Oh, I didn't know that...my mistake

[crystal narwhal]

I chose Black Pearl badge/paint but would rather diamond now after seeing how it looks in chat. I understand if the choice is final, I don’t want to be a bother. My 7tv is https://7tv.app/users/01J58WJHMR0003FEN695DKPCW7

[thin meteor]

Diamond badge and paint instead? is that all?

[crystal narwhal]

Yes please

[nocturne hill]

Oh hi jayme

[restive garden]

🇼 dark for helping them change

[nocturne hill]

^^ Legend

[crystal narwhal]

[spice bay]

@thin meteor If it's possible, could you help me with the same question? I'd like to change my Black Pearl paint to Diamond paint. I will be very pleased 🤍https://7tv.app/users/01FB6Q2FW80001AXCAFYD7KADH

[thin meteor]

Added to list

[thin meteor]

Is that all?

[thin meteor]

Yeah tell me all of the changes you want

[safe creek]

W dark

I have to checked how BP looks on pc yet

[spice bay]

instead of Black Pearl, I would like Diamond Badge too

[thin meteor]

done, added

give it a week or so guys

[spice bay]

dark W 🤍

[crystal narwhal]

Much appreciated

[civic matrix]

Change dia badge/color to black pearl badge/color 🤩 ty bro

[nocturne hill]

Give Forsen the diamond paint

[thin meteor]

1. Diamond Badge → Black Pearl Badge
2. Diamond Paint → Black Pearl Paint

added to list

[spice ocean]

tbh i would take the diamond badge instead of the Black Pearl badge too. My 7tv is https://7tv.app/users/01GGZ2JN8R000CA6T3261QEDHT

[civic matrix]

exactly thx.

[thin meteor]

this is a one time change btw so make sure these are what u want

[thin meteor]

1. Diamond Badge → Black Pearl Badge. Added to list

[torn briar]

While you're at it dark, could you change it for me too? I never chose the gold badge/paint so I got the ruby badge/paint instead. my 7tv https://7tv.app/users/01GGQJDT7G00078102GJ2168QH

[stable tiger]

I would like to change from Blackpearl Badge/Paint to Diamond Badge/Paint, thx @thin meteor ❤️ https://7tv.app/users/01FY7DTN000005NQQFR8W3YVBQ

[nocturne hill]

Hey can I actually not change! 😂 (for legal reasons this is a joke i want my changes)

[night mist]

@thin meteor could i please change to diamond and keep blackpearl badge https://7tv.app/users/01J9J3NTX0000E85CXEPF7XA6G

[thin meteor]

Can u clarify what exactly u want changed?

[night mist]

i wanna change my blackpearl paint to cs2 diamond paint

[thin meteor]

sounds good added to list

[night mist]

thanks

[stable tiger]

@thin meteor You saw my wish?

[night mist]

@thin meteor, do you know when these changes will happen?

[thin meteor]

A week or so

[stable tiger]

I get ignored

[thin meteor]

Added to list sorry 😅

[torn briar]

@thin meteor possible to change it for me too?

[thin meteor]

1. Ruby Badge & Paint → Gold Badge & Paint added to list

[torn briar]

thanks

[thin meteor]

Guys for any other change requests -> https://discord.com/channels/817075418054000661/1432769102144868414

[dry plume]

Mods, pin this message

not that people check the pins...

[night mist]

@thin meteor do i also need to do it in the pickems help channel or am i good?

[astral eagle]

Good luck dark and Kira 🙏 so many people swapping

[fair haven]

if he helped you here and told you its ok then youre fine

[errant coral]

@thin meteor i regret my choice.. i chose the Black Pearl Badge and Paint. But now, i rather wanna have the CS2 Diamond Badge and Paint. My Twitch name is faithlux. so please change it.

[astral eagle]

Read the pins

[toxic harness]

[errant coral]

already does

[astral eagle]

Then you don’t need to post it again

Just give them time homie

[hoary girder]

@thin meteor I adore you. You have helped many people.

🥰

[thin meteor]

ill edit yours

[keen bronze]

why are so many people switching to diamond

[warm musk]

I dont know bro 💀

[toxic harness]

Many don't like the look/visibility on dark mode

diamond is more vibrant and brighter

[warm musk]

[drowsy olive]

yea thats why i changed it people were struggling to read it

i still like it tho

[gloomy osprey]

black pearl it diamond? and who it my ruby

[errant coral]

u have cs2 gold..

this is the alternate to ruby

u choose cs2 gold instead of ruby default

[gloomy osprey]

hahah wtf

[errant coral]

is so bruder

[gloomy osprey]

pls change this ...

[surreal wagon]

https://discord.com/channels/817075418054000661/1432769102144868414

[errant coral]

du musst in #1432769102144868414 schreiben

[gloomy osprey]

ok danke

[errant coral]

is there a chance, i can get this two paints somehow?

[charred crag]

those were monthly paints

[toxic harness]

what is "kira is typing..." tho?

[surreal wagon]

a paint

[charred crag]

paint codes

[toxic harness]

I like paint and I like codes

[charred crag]

no codes though

no paints

[warm musk]

lemme get a badge kira

[charred crag]

ill destroy you

[warm musk]

https://tenor.com/view/choke-choke-emote-choke-myself-gif-14544625584098674544

[charred crag]

[toxic harness]

btw I have another question then why are there letters behind some paints and what do they mean?

[surreal wagon]

acronym for the person who made the paint

[toxic harness]

ohhh

[river juniper]

oA for my goat astria

[toxic harness]

[hoary girder]

Guys, can I submit a second request to change the paint? In the first one, I wrote about changing Black Pearl Paint to CS2 Diamond Paint, but now I've come to the conclusion that CS2 Ruby Predictor also blends too much with the black. I want to change it to CS Gold Paint. How should I format this so that both paints are changed?

[steel dome]

one of us now

[nocturne hill]

what

oh i requested change

LFMAO

[steel dome]

hahaha

it was the right choice

diamond >

[thin meteor]

yes just submit another one in there

[errant coral]

@charred crag damn.. will it ever be purchasable? i need Prismatic and Wisteria Paint

[charred crag]

Maybe in the future

[toxic harness]

Rotating paint shop + battle pass soon™

[clear sentinel]

#1257810406748196960

[steel dome]

cases, hell yeah

just noticed the old and new diamond display different

i like that

cuz i prefer it say CS2

[clear sentinel]

I assume it's to prevent duplicates for ones that chose but already have

and maybe merged after changes?

[steel dome]

if they merge pls keep the cs2 diamond name

[toxic harness]

financial responsibility

hello paint cases

[steel dome]

[clear sentinel]

oh that's badge

[steel dome]

they changed CS2 Gold to CS Gold now

[fickle sedge]

[clear sentinel]

that's the paint

[toxic harness]

what about black pearl

[fickle sedge]

[steel dome]

[fickle sedge]

That Twitchcon paint is very good

[steel dome]

i prefer the rotterdam one

San Diego waytoodank for me

[toxic harness]

the rotterdam one is soo good

[north otter]

@steel dome u have ruby paint and badge?

[fickle sedge]

San Diego better match with diamond badge imo

[steel dome]

yeah

[north otter]

I may switch black pearl badge to diamond is not even that good

Idk

[fickle sedge]

but yes both are very good paints

[steel dome]

blackpearl overrated, the normie

[north otter]

Where merge channel I can’t see it

[toxic harness]

#1204105649244479518

[north otter]

Oh ok ty

[stoic dawn]

surely the black pearl paint gets something changed to it

I still believe

[north otter]

@toxic harness I mean like the rewards changer

[toxic harness]

oh

#1428488456526495835

it's pinned there

[north otter]

Oh Alr ty

[steel dome]

surely i can swap ruby for blackpearl

[toxic harness]

the ruby paint is pretty tho

[mild pewter]

def don't regret choosing diamond paint

[steel dome]

[keen bronze]

should i switch to diamond paint?

[steel dome]

first time i've seen the bronze badge

[toxic harness]

looks cool ngl

[warm musk]

is it really hard to see ppl's names with the blackpearl paint?

or yall just dont like it on dark mode?

I haven't had a chance to see myself

[night mist]

its not that bad ngl

[charred crag]

blackpearl hate is propaganda from blackpearl enthusiast in order to keep the paint non mainstream

[steel dome]

[charred crag]

I like it

[toxic harness]

depends on your name I guess

[keen bronze]

would you choose blackpearl or diamond

[warm musk]

[rustic halo]

geeez bro

yall shoulda made them keep pearl

now everyone wanna come to the winning team

[azure arch]

Has all the paints and badges from pickems been distributed?

[thin meteor]

Yes

[azure arch]

Do I need to sub to see them?

[thin meteor]

Yeah

[charred crag]

can I trade all 500 of my paints for the cs gold

[azure arch]

Ok thank you

[charred crag]

[thin meteor]

let me ask the boss

[charred crag]

I cancel I cancel

[thin meteor]

boss approved

[charred crag]

@gray mulch wants to give all of his pick'em paints away also

if you can approve that one

he already signed a deal

[thin meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-reacts-stare-gif-9628418060076026584

heard it was insta approved

[charred crag]

[gray mulch]

i cant read any of the paints

so

[clear sentinel]

I heard we can trade 25 referrals for doppler phase 2

[steel dome]

[steel dome]

thought i saw u in cs for a sec

[toxic harness]

[spark radish]

wtf

[teal ridge]

suggestion for next pickem : paint for people who has a perfect prediction, it will be hard but also a rare paint

[dry plume]

I don't think anyone had a perfect pickem this time

[cedar steppe]

Why suggest something that you or anyone else will never get

[summer kite]

naa this is dope

icl

[warm musk]

Why do we need more rare paints its already hard to get other paints

[safe folio]

[dry plume]

85 people using paint, 5 people who own it... Math checks out.

[charred crag]

Maybe some people are renting it

[dry plume]

[charred crag]

No smiling rule #7262

[dry plume]

[hexed maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049009642665156768/1274347784878948363/forsenNugget.gif

[charred crag]

No happy dancing/singing chicken nugget (forsen) in chat rule #82827

[charred crag]

AH

[dry plume]

You better go touch that grass

[charred crag]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-meme-no-cat-no-cat-nuh-uh-nuh-uh-gif-5478596456695677807

[solar fable]

got my black pearl paint + badge, love it!

what a fun event, thanks again to all the people who worked on it

and the community for the helps with the picks + my refs 😄

[warm musk]

Next year I'm aiming for 25 refs with the help of Kira

[steel dome]

[charred crag]

Hope to see you back for the next one

[solar fable]

@charred crag ty for your hard work

[steel dome]

march-april we'll be there

[warm musk]

what's happening then?

[near lichen]

skull badge kinda fits with bp

[restive garden]

i using it with the twitchcon 10 default badge

[stoic dawn]

holy shit its so WHITE now

https://cdn.7tv.app/paint/01K7CH0WS6ZHJ8N8BY1MEA17DJ/layer/01K8SJC7PSN67Q5BEM49G71ZVF/4x.webp

for sure an improvement though

[cedar steppe]

Have they changed it? I’m not at a pc

[stoic dawn]

yes

[cedar steppe]

People will be wanting it now and regretting swapping for diamond 😂

They made Ruby brighter as well

They look a lot better now, thats awesome!

[stoic dawn]

https://cdn.7tv.app/paint/01K7CGZW33EH9BKGWFY8CMJE27/layer/01K8SNFS1BCV4WYVJVP3GTZ6Y8/4x.webp

[cedar steppe]

I think they should remove the dark shadow for Paradise Potion as well

[stoic dawn]

that one still looks the same

[cedar steppe]

I’m saying they should improve it as well

[stoic dawn]

shit I misread

you mean like the dark patch that appears once per sometimes?

[cedar steppe]

Yes it’s hard to read imo

[stoic dawn]

happens cause of this gap

same thing with the twitchcon paint

because its the same thing, just recolored

[cedar steppe]

I think Twitchcon San Diego 2025 is okay

[stoic dawn]

I think it looks better on native 7tv because it has the glow

as for chatterino, that does not render

[stoic dawn]

https://cdn.pickems.tv/prizes/paints/tier-4.webp

[stoic dawn]

https://cdn.pickems.tv/prizes/paints/tier-3.webp

old ones if anyone wants to compare

[civic matrix]

Guys Is anyone else waiting for a Dia Black Pearl exchange?Because I asked Dark to change it for me and he probably forgot about me

[vivid nymph]

#1432769102144868414 message

IT WILL TAKE A WEEK OR MORE BEFORE YOU RECEIVE CHANGES!

[civic matrix]

Ah okay thanks for the info 😉

[astral eagle]

smh @thin meteor how dare you forget someone (sarcasm ❤️)

[thin meteor]

[honest carbon]

did they update bp

if so, can someone show me the new animation in chat

[charred crag]

scroll up

[cedar steppe]

Big improvement, they fixed Ruby too

I still think Paradise Potion is a bit hard to read cause of the dark shadow

[astral eagle]

how does your new paint look on your name

[stoic dawn]

https://vanity.zonian.dev/?u=KiraTypes

[astral eagle]

[toxic harness]

kind of reminds me of the diamond paint but with pink, lovely

[gilded cipher]

@charred crag Do yk why when I equip black pearl(PAINT) it doesn't change to it

[vale kayak]

The new Black Pearl paint update is insanely well done. PROPS!!!

@charred crag

[honest carbon]

which is this?

am i dumb lmao

[dry plume]

its kira's personal paint called kira is typing...

[honest carbon]

oh thanks lmao

[dry plume]

you can try it out on the vanity website

[warm musk]

imma need dat

[charred crag]

Chrome://restart should fix it

[charred crag]

All props to @red elm he is an amazing painter

It turned out amazing

[restive garden]

is the cosmetics shop coming soon?

[charred crag]

s00n

[red elm]

I could've chosen a different seed (there are infinite versions) but I wanted one that occasionally showed the background.

it gives it more "depth" although I realize it also makes it looked a bit weird

I was afraid it would just look like 2 scrolling colors

so I picked a random "building" arrangement that had a good variety of things

this one has a "street" down the middle of no buildings

like going through an intersection

I could plop an extra building there to remove that gap though, and it would probably look better

[stoic dawn]

I have a feeling the average user wont see this at all

I dont mean this in a bad way, its a good template for a paint

just not sure people would actually notice it having "depth" instead of just being 3 colors cycled through at the same pattern

also I noticed that the twitchcon one has stars at the top, yeah you wont notice that, ever

I feel like maybe keep the twitchcon paint the same, because the shadow makes up for the readability

but the free one that was given out, maybe that should get fixed

this would introduce also differences other than a color change, maybe people would like that (?)

[red elm]

technically the purple is different too

as you can see from the server logo, the orange and purple scheme is what we use to represent halloween

I saw someone say they wanted purple and green instead

[stoic dawn]

Im glad the gem paints got updated at least

so its actually usable

[cedar steppe]

I just think the dark shadow makes Paradise Potion paint difficult to read

[red elm]

and I agree

[stoic dawn]

new updated paradise potion

https://cdn.7tv.app/paint/01K6ZYWT597ZQ7TEDRT26R5BNM/layer/01K8W5RJAQ183DG7Y1D450VVTF/4x.webp

old one

https://cdn.7tv.app/paint/01K6ZYWT597ZQ7TEDRT26R5BNM/layer/01K6ZYWT59KS1RPH4HTA5K8ZF4/4x.gif

[stable ocean]

oooo i like that deep purple

[fickle sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/noway-nowaying-what-huh-gif-27487800

[thorn ivy]

have this one been changed?

like is it alot brighter??

confirmed, it seems to have been changed.

||now.. i dont know if like that.||

[stoic dawn]

yes, 3 paints have been changed

scroll up, I showed the gifs

[thorn ivy]

ah. i didnt scroll up.

still

i dont know if i like that

[stoic dawn]

I prefer that myself over an unreadable paint

[cedar steppe]

You couldn’t read it before now you can

[thorn ivy]

welp.. what can you do

i guess im just not used to it

new stuff = scary

but i guess it looks fine now too.

after some consideration (and looking at it for more than 30 seconds, past the initial shock) i think it actually looks better now
so i take everything i said back lol

[thorn ivy]

what paint is this btw?

[stoic dawn]

its kira's own paint

unobtainable for us

[thorn ivy]

nooo... whyy that one goes hard

[charred crag]

Cotton candy skies

[stoic dawn]

a lot of paints exist that are unobtainable

or were obtainable previously to a very small amount of people

which are really clean

[thorn ivy]

yea ofc there are alot of paints that are unobtainable but its just sad that the clean/best ones are always the ones u can’t get anymore lol

[stoic dawn]

I got a few clean paints so I dont complain

[thorn ivy]

yeah same, got a few clean ones too but only like 2-3 animated, and all of those are from this event 😭 and those are the best ones imo

the animated ones are the best looking

[stoic dawn]

I have the deme paint, psp (molten core), nnys 2024, domos 2024, winter snowfall

and a lot of static ones that I like, that were avaible to everyone in the monthly rotation

ex. calm ocean, ghastly

[red elm]

That's why I want the paint shop to be finished

But first it has to be started

I'd love for those paints to occasionally become available again, using the paint shop

I don't like them being permanently unobtainable

[cedar steppe]

Some people like the limited exclusivity and rarity of them

[red elm]

I know. But I think a year or two or three of exclusivity is enough for most people, considering there will always be new "exclusive" paints to get

[stoic dawn]

ok so

thankfully @cedar steppe added this

I feel like paints that were exclusive shouldnt be opened

instead, what should be opened is paints which were in the monthly rotation

[red elm]

Right

Those for sure

Paints that people "earned" like CS or TwitchCon paints should also remain exclusice

But paints that people only had to enter a code at the right time are probably ok to reopen

[cedar steppe]

I would like an opportunity to buy the Twitchcon Rotterdam 2025 paint in the shop if it was available for a short time tho

[red elm]

It's pretty cool

[stoic dawn]

^ true, this would still keep the whole emotes minigame on the stream, because people wouldnt need to pay for the paint - and those who couldnt care less, would just pay a sum of money to obtain it

completely up to the user

[red elm]

Right

[stoic dawn]

theres still people who will complain about this, and people who will absolutely love this

cant really settle for a middleground

[cedar steppe]

You can’t please everyone

[stoic dawn]

I feel like at the end of the day, its just twitch channel shiny colors, nothing to be really mad/worried about

but thats just my take

twitch chat* not channel, oops

[red elm]

I agree

[cedar steppe]

I like the improvement to Paradise Potion very nice purple and much easier to read now

[red elm]

But yeah some people like to hoard the rarest paints and their enjoyment of them comes from the fact that other people DON'T have it

[stoic dawn]

this can apply to anything

ever so humble rarity

[red elm]

I know

But it's not like people can sell their paints like CS skins

So people can't get TOO mad

Although that would be fun

[cedar steppe]

I would call it quits if 7tv paints start selling for crazy amounts on the secondary market

[red elm]

lol

Except... You'd probably become rich

[cedar steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-fail-gold-dive-gif-3294352

[warm musk]

I think its kinda unfair that the 7tv higher ups can mke they own paints and have every single cosmetic there is

[warm musk]

imagine 7tv cosmetic auctions

[stoic dawn]

sure, but at the same time if Im not mistaken mods aren't paid full time

if they are paid at all, not sure if this is exactly voluntary work, if there are thresholds, I have no clue whatsoever

but if they arent, then I feel like giving them an option to get a shiny name is a fair enough tradeoff

but again, I can be completely wrong and maybe mods are paid on some basis, I'd have no idea

[toxic harness]

tbh couldn't care less if someone who puts time and effort into the platform gets some custom paint(s) or access to other stuff lol

[stoic dawn]

yeah, thats what Im saying

[thorn ivy]

alright, hear me out... PAINT TRADEUPS
you put in 5 paints → you get 1 rare paint
Like CS:GO but for paints

[tiny citrus]

WW

[warm musk]

I see what you're saying ngl

Can anyone else use the vanity website? It doesn't load for me

[stoic dawn]

seems down

once this channel gets nuked it'll be back to a whole bunch of nothing

https://imgur.com/a/bBCeBF1

[warm musk]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-gif-5837147549451255056

[red elm]

Not all the mods have all the paints either. In fact, most don't.

Most just have their own custom paint

But even that practice is from the olden days

With a few exceptions

[charred crag]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-the-exception-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-13933962054597777224

[stoic dawn]

all I know is that some mods arent the same as other mods

not in terms of performance, but instead of what they do within their role

for example ftk, here hes a "7tv mod", but on the page hes classed as an admin

[charred crag]

What do you think of me

[stoic dawn]

I do not have enough insight to rate someones performance or skill of their roles

[charred crag]

I basically taught ftk everything he knows

[charred crag]

I can turn this channel into a “paint-talk” channel if you guys want to continue to speak in here

“Paint-discussions” maybe

[stoic dawn]

I wouldnt mind

all I use is #developers and this chat

without this chat only thing that remains is #developers , which gets used once per whenever

[charred crag]

The Mr beast scam bots like #developers a lot

[charred crag]

I think the community that the event brought in is nice

A lot of really cool people

[stoic dawn]

carrying the activity there

[charred crag]

Could you imagine

A video comes out in like a week from Mr beast

“I SENT A BOT TO EVERY DISCORD AND GAVE OUT 1 MILLION DOLLARS”

[stoic dawn]

for me its just insane how many people fall for this shit

if anything mr beast needs to make an awareness video about that shit 😭

[charred crag]

Yeah 100%

I get like old people

But younger internet users should not be falling for this..

Nature taking its course I guess

[red elm]

it's not age alone. It's experience.

People in our age range have usually either seen a scam like that before, or fallen for one themselves

old people only learned about Mr. Beast recently

and "younger people" that fall for it have only learned about Mr. Beast recently, but haven't seen a scam yet

iPad kids

[red elm]

cinema

[red elm]

yes I was thinking of you

[red elm]

I like that idea a lot

[charred crag]

Yeah that's fair

i wonder how much they have made from it

[red elm]

well I gave them about $200 so at least that much

how much have you given?

[charred crag]

to mr beast?

40k and my house

[red elm]

no the scammers

[charred crag]

50k and my apartment

[red elm]

very generous

[charred crag]

love supporting small indie companies

[red elm]

StrongMan

[warm musk]

exactly

[steel dome]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-car-silly-cat-sad-scary-gif-12889095585962936860

[astral eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-car-silly-cat-sad-scary-gif-12889095585962936860

[thorn ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-car-silly-cat-sad-scary-gif-12889095585962936860

[night mist]

has anyones vanity been working?

[night mist]

alright thank you

[warm musk]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-car-silly-cat-sad-scary-gif-12889095585962936860

[stoic dawn]

I made the vanity tester on a domain thats really easy to remember https://v.forsen.cc/

[warm musk]

thanks so much the other link you put wasnt working this works now!

[stoic dawn]

I've made an update from my end, the raw paint now displays under the username - and you can also disable it in the settings just fine

and if you cant see this change, control + f5 on the site, that should do the trick

[red elm]

that's a cool feature but looks like the drop shadows are displaying at native size even though the font is larger than normal

to be an accurate preview (if you care about that) the drop shadows (both offset and blur radius) would have to be scaled up by that same amount

[stoic dawn]

I can try doing something about this, again, this site wasn't coded by me

I'm just providing easy access to it incase any other source of it is down

dont want to take credit for just hosting this

@red elm can you check now?

again, might need to ctrl + f5 cause of caching

[red elm]

yes much better

@stoic dawn thoughts on loading the avif version of the 4x paint so it loads faster?

1x is fine to leave as webp beacuse that's more accurate to what it looks like in chat

[stoic dawn]

I think scaling to 500% might be a bit fucked because of how the text tries to fit in, but I guess its whatever

[stoic dawn]

I mean sure I can do it

[red elm]

yeah the scaling SHOULD be proportional to the font's scaling

[stoic dawn]

I got everything open either way

[red elm]

nice

I'm not familiar enough with the vanity tester to know what it was like vs this one

[stoic dawn]

what I meant is, because the text usually wont fit in 500%, it becomes smaller, which causes the dropshadow to be slightly over what it normally is

[red elm]

yeah I know what you meant

[stoic dawn]

you can either go no badges and maybe 500% fits fine or go 400% and just deal with it

[red elm]

but IDK how you'd fix that lol

[stoic dawn]

yeah I dont know either

[red elm]

there are a bunch of nerds in here that would probably know though

[warm musk]

@charred crag

[surreal wagon]

kira is not a nerd

[warm musk]

why would she??

[stoic dawn]

I just made it so the text doesnt scale down

so when you zoom in as much as possible the text cuts off, but you can mouse3 and still go right to see the full name

and I honestly dont think I care enough to spend more time thinking of a better solution atm

[red elm]

yeah no, that's a good enough solution

maybe 500% scale is a bit excessive

400% would probably be plenty

people can always just zoom the page if they want more

[stoic dawn]

[stoic dawn]

made finishing touches to how badges are handled when zoomed in

this should make it way more accurate to how it was before

again thanks @red elm for the shadow report

[red elm]

My pleasure

I'm still the official pixel complainer

[stoic dawn]

ok actual actual finishing touches I will clear local storage because looking for more users with bulkier paints/badges will simply fail after a bit

so now the whole thing should be running just fine without any issues

... hopefully

[thorn ivy]

[warm musk]

what do the "oA" paints mean?

like are they just for testing?

and how do I get them

https://tenor.com/view/ome5-gif-3702368687643410225

[surreal wagon]

it means that they're made by oAstria

[stoic dawn]

you dont

[red elm]

hope they're selected for a monthly paint drop

[stoic dawn]

can they still be?

or do they have to be new ones

dont know how the whole process of thought goes in the background

[red elm]

generally they'd make new ones so that they're at the end of the list, at the very least

but sometimes they've used existing paints as a base to copy from, even if the result isn't exactly the same

[stoic dawn]

yeah thats what I thought

similar thing was done with cs gold and cs diamond paints

ctrl + c and ctrl + v paints under different names

also werent contestants of the 7tv tournament meant to get a special paint?

there was a phase 2 doppler paint, where did that go

https://cdn.7tv.app/paint/01K7W8NJDYH3E2DVPPJ5WYWWPK/layer/01K7W8NJDY13S746G7QDKCFPZ5/4x.avif

[red elm]

We need to find something more special to use it for

people said it was "too good"

lol

[stoic dawn]

what

[red elm]

(allegedly)

[stoic dawn]

what does "too good" even mean in this context

I had a feeling the gem paints were a bit underwhelming due to them not having a dropshadow to stand out more

compared to the gold and diamond and emerald paints

I feel like that'd be perfect for a special paint

same theme, but rare

[red elm]

shadows cause an unusually large performance impact, so I try to avoid requiring them if I can

they often make paints less legible too, unless the paint itself is super bright colored

[stoic dawn]

while I completely agree with the performance impact on shadows, I still think it wouldnt make such a difference, especially with the fact that even some monthly paints have shadows, as a great example we can take the ghastly paint, which uses 2

filter: drop-shadow(rgb(154, 211, 254) 0px 5px 0.5px) drop-shadow(rgb(0, 110, 255) 0px 0px 15px);

and I like the paint because of how it stands out, only because of the 2 drop-shadows

[red elm]

My personal opinion is that shadows should be even rarer than they are

they're starting to lose their "specialness" IMO

[stoic dawn]

cant really do anything about it anymore I would say

especially that theres a bunch of paints which were in the monthly cycle with shadows

[red elm]

I could probably add a shadow now that the paint has been brightened up

but before, it hurt legibility too much

oh also, Chatterino's blur radius isn't correct for shadows so they look different there. So I like to avoid them if possible.

[stoic dawn]

idk if chatterino even renders more than 1 shadow

actually as a matter of fact I dont even think it renders whatever its trying to render correctly

a great example of this is simply looking at the latest twitchcon paint

its on the same level as the paradise potion paint pre-update

[red elm]

99% sure it does

the reason it looks different is it's rendering the blur radius wrong

it's written with Qt and the numbers are probably just different than whatever the websites use

[stoic dawn]

in any paint I've seen so far I can only notice the shadow that goes under the name directly

[red elm]

probably needs to be doubled or squared or something

[stoic dawn]

wouldnt this be fixed by now?

[red elm]

nope

[stoic dawn]

but again, I guess the vanity site didnt have shadows fixed either

[red elm]

The "shadows" are still visible because they don't have a blur radius

or don't need one, at least

but to have a "glow" the shadow needs to be blurred

and Qt's blur radius just doesn't work the same way

(it's possible it's just the chatterino7 fork being written wrong, rather than Qt itself having differences.)

maybe the blur has a decimal in the wrong place and it's 1/10th the size it should be

But I can confirm that the blur DOES work

it's just really tiny

so paints that need it like the TC paint look very different

so that's one reason I like to avoid making paints that require glows

[stoic dawn]

guessing its this

void PaintDropShadow::apply(QPixmapDropShadowFilter &effect) const
{
    effect.setOffset({this->xOffset_, this->yOffset_});
    effect.setBlurRadius(this->radius_);
    effect.setColor(this->color_);
}

not sure if I really do want to rebuild chatterino just to test it out with like x2 or x3 tho...

[red elm]

I have a 9950x3d

I wouldn't mind doing the compilation

I just haven't had time to look into setting up a dev environment and stuff

I'm not a developer at all

but I use linux so it would probably be trivial

[red elm]

Could you put an option in the settings to enter any blur radius multiplier?

That's how I'd do it but that's probably a bit trickier

[stoic dawn]

I mean I can try looking into the building process

all I would need is Qt anyway

[red elm]

I think a good place to start is looking at the 7TV extension

the radius should be in pixels

in both places

but I think radius gets interpreted differently when the paints get parsed by the 7TV extension

because a radius of 5 looks way larger than 5 pixels

[torpid whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832700420408606752/1432146497675460710/Enough-4x.gif

[warm musk]

Hopefully

🙏

Also is anyone getting a glitch where it shows a usernames name in the followed channel as the wrong name?

There name is DLOU on twitch but it said "LONG" in the followed channels on the left for me but after a while it went back to normal

[red elm]

It might be fun to make a way for people to be able to vote on future paint drops

there is a subreddit still actually

https://www.reddit.com/r/7TV/

I don't personally check it and don't know if anyone else does either. lol

[trail sonnet]

I think only I do

There's only some help threads there from time to time, probably not enough visitors for a vote

[fair haven]

i only posted there once i think

[red elm]

thank you for your service

[stoic dawn]

@red elm doesnt this look a bit better?

as in the "glow", that is

[red elm]

I see glow on the left, none on the right

[stoic dawn]

yeah

[red elm]

did you recompile chatterino?

[stoic dawn]

I did

[red elm]

very nice

ok so

[red elm]

next step is to compare it to the actual extension

[red elm]

interestingly the paints aren't interpolated correctly when scaled

as you can see on the right, the blur is there, just much smaller

[stoic dawn]

I think I know why

but also not really

[red elm]

I can help you test this too

I can add a large blur to a paint to compare

[stoic dawn]

auto scaled = shadow.scaled(
    scale / static_cast<float>(outMap.devicePixelRatio()));

this is what chatterino does

I think the devide here is at cause

i also then later multiply even further to increase it just a tad bit

void PaintDropShadow::apply(QPixmapDropShadowFilter &effect) const
{
    effect.setOffset({this->xOffset_, this->yOffset_});
    effect.setBlurRadius(this->radius_ * 2.5f);
    effect.setColor(this->color_);
}

a really stupid fix

but it does look a bit better, doesnt it

[red elm]

yes

but ideally we shouldn't be multiplying them by arbitrary values

we should figure out how the extension does it

so that it looks identical between them

[stoic dawn]

I dont think we can

not sure if theres a way to go beyond this

[red elm]

why not?

[stoic dawn]

I mean if you know how to make it reliable

then go for it

I dont know what could we do to make this better

[red elm]

I don't know enough about the extension's code to say

we'd have to look at it to find out how it scales the value

[stoic dawn]

I dont think the 7tv extension actually does scale it in any way that could just be easily replicated

and because qt and css use different methods for shadows, you cant just put the same values

unless someone else knows the 7tv code and can prove me wrong with the scaling thing

[red elm]

I think they're both supposed to be the radius in pixels

also, the chatterino7 fork would ideally use the Inter font as default, to replicate how twitch chat looks

[stoic dawn]

I mean thats on the actual fork maintainers to do

Im just trying to make shadows better

[stoic dawn]

also while this is true

this doesnt reflect 1:1 the same as it would do with css

thats the main issue

[red elm]

Very odd

[stoic dawn]

thats why I believe you can only get an estimate of how it could look like, not a realistic 1:1 representation

I feel like if it was just as simple as it seems then the chatterino7 devs/maintainers would've done it by now

[red elm]

maybe CSS isn't using radius

a "10 pixel blur" would be a radius of 5

[red elm]

nah I think you're the first person to even look at this since it was merged

your change already looks way better

I'd just want to check it against twitch chat to make sure it looks similar enough

I'm not home right now to help with that kind of thing though

[stoic dawn]

the main issue with my fix is that youre still multiplying it

so the chance of the shadow under the name gets shifted too

thats why Im thinking of using this

float scalefactor = 1.5f + (this->radius_ * 0.33f);

instead

this would impact the shadow under the name less, while impacting the glow more

[red elm]

glows are just shadows with a large blur

[stoic dawn]

yeah, Im aware

[red elm]

are you trying to treat them separately?

[stoic dawn]

Ill just try picking and chosing whatever seems the best tbh

[stoic dawn]

do you mean in the code or as in the way Im typing

[red elm]

well the way you said this

implies that you are

[stoic dawn]

I know that its literally just 2 shadows

its just better to differentiate them like this, no?

[red elm]

Why and how?

[stoic dawn]

well I just prefer calling the thing thats supposed to represent a glow, glow, and the thing thats meant to represent a shadow under your name a shadow

even though theyre the same elements with different properties

[red elm]

I don't think it's a good idea to separate them

it's unnecessary

[stoic dawn]

Im not seperating them in the code

[red elm]

there's no way to tell them apart reliably

oh

[stoic dawn]

I just seperate them in the way I say it

[red elm]

oh

that's very different

carry on

[stoic dawn]

and because of this, making this wasnt a bad call

float scalefactor = 1.5f + (this->radius_ * 0.33f);

because then youre not scaling the smaller radius shadows, compared to the ones that are meant to be bigger

[red elm]

well no I think this would cause undesirable differences

[stoic dawn]

well, if you multiply it by a solid value wouldnt you get differences too

[red elm]

if you zoom chatterino way in, it the scaling doesn't look wrong

just smaller

[stoic dawn]

I mean...

[red elm]

what is this?

[stoic dawn]

I tested out 2 draws for the shadow

increasing radius only goes so far with replicating a paint

Im comparing with native chat now, it has to be more intense

[red elm]

grab a screenshot of the native twitch chat too to compare

[stoic dawn]

on the image above, left is native

[red elm]

oh

gotcha

[stoic dawn]

Im going to continue doing 2x shadow draws, and instead change the opacity to 75% on each

[red elm]

definitely a different blur algorithm

BUT

it looks a lot better

[stoic dawn]

I just dont believe 2x shadow draws will come as a solid solution

thats my problem

its more of a slop quick fix

[red elm]

so math-wise, things are USUALLY a power of 2

when dealing with radii and pixels, which are circles and squares respectively, sometimes the conversion is the square root of 2

or half that

so about 1.41 or 0.707

as factors for converting between them

[stoic dawn]

https://kappa.lol/OlEcfK

left is native

u can see how the shadow cuts off on the right on the sides

[red elm]

that screenshot is very blurry for some reason

[stoic dawn]

I sent from kappa.lol

what about now

[surreal wagon]

you're ranctious?

[red elm]

I see what you mean about them not being directly comparable

it's a different blur algo

[stoic dawn]

no 😭

[red elm]

maybe that can be changed later

[surreal wagon]

..

[stoic dawn]

[red elm]

the colors of paints also look noticeably different

notice how the blue isn't as bright in chatterino

[stoic dawn]

this is already scuffed enough of a fix to be pushed to the actual thing

[red elm]

probably the same issue that caused the other paints to be too dark

[red elm]

yeah

so what did you actually do?

1.5x + 0.33x?

[stoic dawn]

for the intensity I just draw the shadows twice, for the radius I just multiply it by 3

and again, I draw the shadows with 75% opacity, so they arent as intense

[stoic dawn]

now that you notice it I cant unsee it

😭

not sure what causes this sort of color shift tho

this happens in the publically avaible chatterino

so its not something I made from my end

[stoic dawn]

nvm Im wrong, this is caused somehow by the opacity

^ Fixed

[warm musk]

that would be fire

[red elm]

Oh you changed opacity?

So it's not broken? I'm glad lol

[stoic dawn]

yea I didnt change back opacity after affecting the shadows

simply setting it back did the job

[red elm]

Very cool

[stoic dawn]

I feel like this kinda brings more life to some paints now

[red elm]

For sure

Do a pull request I guess lul

If you can

[stoic dawn]

Im gonna test something out still

[humble shuttle]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01H2435DP8000D9DEP10Z947MQ/3x.gif

[modern agate]

shadows look like shit in chatterino

everyone knows this by now

[humble shuttle]

bad shadows look bad on chatterino

skill issue

[stoic dawn]

how can shadows look like anything when the rendering for them was fucked

u can barely see the shadows on very close zoom

[stoic dawn]

again, shadows could not look like anything on the current public version of chatterino

the radius was never multiplied/increased overall so it could actually be visible

my current implementation obviously isnt great, Im not a cpp dev, but Its enough to make it resemble somewhere close to native 7tv

left is with shadows right is without

[modern agate]

if you wanna fix paint shadows in chatterino just make your own fork

[stoic dawn]

I was planning to do that and then potentially make a PR

but again, I have to test out more implementations for this and get more opinions

some people seem to really like this, some seem to really hate this

[modern agate]

i just use the paints i like most and dont care much about the shitty shadows in chatterino
its not like there is much thought put into "are paints even readable" anymore

[stoic dawn]

that is why I also would potentially make an option to swap between paint rendering

this aims mainly to be closer to native chat, and if some people would find it bad to look at and would prefer just how it was before, they could just change it in the settings

this is also exactly why Im asking some people about their thoughts on this

[modern agate]

considering the 7tv website and extension render image paints differently i am actually not sure anyone knows definitively how anything is supposed to be rendered
all paints that are based on a texture file are 128x384
on the website it gets zoomed in the top left corner so your name always fits in the 384 width, while in the extension the vertical axis is fixed and the texture it stretched to fit your name length
not sure if this makes sense but you'll see it if you go looking

[stoic dawn]

I havent looked into the actual images/gradients that go on people names, Im just here for the drop shadows applied on paints

I do know something is wrong, even from the last time I saw you and ftk look at how some specific paints look