#beta-discussion
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It would be nice if you could see the emote details when you open it. I know you can see it if you hover over it, but still just a suggestion 
or the link of the emote 
no
its very old twitch functionality
from way back when you could chat on vods
and it'd insert your messages as if they happened live
yea, I remember that, but is that still a thing? you can still use that API for existing messages from the livestream?
not sure what you mean
twitch never removed that button
and all it does is ban in regular chat
which goes through and deletes old messages
deleting is also the same
its the exact same procedure it just happens that that message isnt in a live chat
if you deleted a message while a chat was live it does the same thing
also deletes in vod
huh? where's that button now?
if I check a VOD, the messages just appear in chat and the only button is the timestamp, which jumps to that time
are you mod in the chat your trying in?
also, if I ban a person, they still show up in the VOD/highlight
I'm trying in my own channel
i'm on v2 now until v3 starts working again
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Classic passive agressive complainers
Madge your shit is broken fuck you and fuck everything you stand for im out of this shit dawg
also
havent you said this
like 5 times
nobody cares at this point

YOUVE LOST YOURSELF A CUSTOMER
QUICK I MUST ANNOUNCE MY LEAVE
SO THEY KNOW HOW SHITTY THEIR SHIT IS Chatting
"back to v2" as if its not gonna turn into v3 imminently
Ok i stop complaining now 

finally LETS FUCKING GO
see how long that lasts tho 
tomorrow: the F in my chat is 3 pixels larger than it should be
V3 IS SO FUCKING HORIBLE
hey what happened to v2 it was so much better
Damn i got my ass kicked here real good 
my pfp takes too long on v2 I'M GOING TO V1!
Paints seem to have broken
For me too, badges and paints gone


can you show me how this button is supposed to look like/where it's supposed to be? 
So I assume paints and badges are still broken?



@kindred crown this is bug can confirm 
stupid api wont accept any of my presences
after hours of cooldown
rejected with a 429
i assume this is the error everyone is having
since it started with people just saying their own paints werent working
and now its everyones
Rate Limit Reached: Too Many Unauthentic Presences 
BIG PROBLEM
u trollin? 
Wym trolling you can literally see it in the screenshot

It pops up after chatting a bit
and the red line shifts around
ahh alright I just been lurking so I suppose I wouldnt see it then
I'll find somewhere I dont mind yapping a bit and report back if I can get the same thing. assuming you use chrome?
yeah chrome
just thought about it. you dont happen to have any sort of spell check extension as well? I know I was getting some weird shit on a few sites when I used to use one.
wanna say I recall some issues with twitch
figured you're not dank just worth asking 
new update will detect grammar mistakes
maybe in the future we will have auto complete

Should definitely be togglable
that would get aids so fast
twitch chat turning into reddit threads of people countering arguments with spelling errors 
Oh no 
ive had the red line a couple times too

I SPEM
this is tripping me out 
im tabbing bttv and ffz before 7tv emotes 
it just did omegaluliguess from bttv, then omegalul from ffz then omE from 7tv 

Ok so its 1 day im subbed again but i still dont see my 7tv color or icon in twitch chat, using latest beta v3 on firefox. is it only me?
Also why doesnt it say im subbed here
ok on Edge it works, Firefox doesnt
Interesting
Even If all the emotes are on 7tv it still changes the order
emotefroggy just woke up: ๐๐ค (14h, 34m ago)
Hey emotefroggy, - I just private messaged you 1 private reminder(s) - make sure to check them out!
why are blocked users messages showing and being highlighted?
bug
BIG PROBLEM
the entirety of the beta I've had 1 of 5 personal emotes approved and usable and now the 1 says Not Allowed ... y ?
(other 4 been pending since start of beta
)
what emotes have you been trying to use 
Can you link your personal set
i understand
not getting approved but the others i dont understand
actually i don't even see them in personal queue 
It's possible some of your emotes haven't actually got into queue

Advise reading them

Smh my head lazy mods
Re-adding
did you just add it recently 
you can't remove an emote that you just added in
no i tried to remove the 4 that were pending and when i hit remove on the 4th it says i have to wait
Anatole what if there was a search filter for personal-approved emotes 
There is one
oh 
also, can this error be 70420 instead ๐ ๐

omg is that the funny weed number haha i love weed it's so cooool bro
70421
The extension can now autonomously auth with 7tv
If you're logged in to the site you'll also be logged in within the extension
This now allows doing anything ranging from adding emotes directly within twitch chat or changing cosmetics via twitch directly



didnt know this was a feature til now but is kool
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could it be different color than someone that mentions you tho? 
"cool" 
there is , it will be added probably pretty soon since the extension's launch featureset is almost complete
nice, thx 
we have officially reached feature parity in terms of twitch features


does this mean we can finally see someone's sub emotes in the menu even if we aren't subbed 

we are missing youtube support but for the time being it's just going to be a cv paste of the old implementation
we havent figured out the clean way to do it yet
close but not quite, needs more R&D
good job tole
thx for fixing mod slider <3
@wind sapphire can you tell me if the autocomplete sorting is better now
are you actually on beta 11?

leaked full name address credit card social security number id whole family tree
windows 11 

how could i possibly have fucked this up further
oh
i mean your gif only showed a static page for me 
oh
ok lets see
figured out emojis buggin was ffzs fault
like someone else said its really just a matter of muscle memory
and personally, i assumed shortest emote name would appear first
not a huge issue in the end
Soo about that feature parody
I still only have 2 of my 5 badges lol
Was hoping the ffz and chatterino badges would be included
Please tell me those will be included when v3 hits stable
chatterino badges aren't even included in v2 
I'm sure ffz badges will be implemented eventually but they're very low priority
Didnt need to be. FFZ is what I was using to format chat
But since v3's goal is to become the chat, those badges should be included
pretty sure an ffz add-on rewrite is in the works but I don't see how ffz features need to be included for parity
The goal of v3 became a lot broader imo when the focus was to rewrite chat
Oh?? Thats news to me
the goal was always to rewrite the chatbox
There are certain things ffz did that 7tv added because they are very good
Like smooth chat scrolling and seperated message dividers
And badges fit squarely in that category imo
.
.
If the devs want me to replace ffz with 7tv, those are the kinds of things I want
badges are hardly important
Because that's what v3 is asking

we arent gonna have chatterino badges 

ffz add-on that enables chatterino badge = needs to be implemented in v3 for parity 
ffz custom badges are cool though will likely add support for those
yeah it's not gonna be a thing
makes zero sense
thought so
the only reason an extension should support badges from a service is if it actually uses that service
you're more likely to see bttv badges being added before you'll ever see chatterino
nothing from the extension relies on chatterino to function so
doesnt make sense

Siiick
Well whatever
i mean im not sure what you'd expect
how
Because it's a totally seperate thing 
explain in what way it makes sense for software that has no reliance on something to provide support for their vanity features
oh


eventually there will be a more open add-on API similar to what ffz has
so i guess that could be added there down the line
but its most certainly not gonna be there on release
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makes sense 
is there an option to disable the changelog popup
@kindred crown Hey, i was also wondering since i use the Beta my Twitch has been getting these micro stutters where i need to refresh the website to fix them
Could this be the beta causing it or would it be on Twitch their side. After 15-20min of watching it starts and stutters every 5-10sec
see if you have hardware acceleration on, I had to disable mine
Where can i find that?
in your browser settings
Kk ty
lmk if it fixes ๐
Will check
In beta v3, should clicking the "Login" button open something? Because when clicking it, a blank tab opens.
what version are you on
Newest, download few seconds ago
not sure then 
The same issue occurs on Chrome and Opera GX. 
had to uninstall and reinstall the extension to update to the latest version for anyone with the same issue as me ๐
chrome://extensions/ if you are on chromium-based browser should have update all extensions button
pretty sure you have to turn on Dev mode in the top right for the update button to be there
oh yeah, thanks for reminding me to turn that off
Could the TLDs for url detection in chat be limited to existing TLDs? Watchtime commands with replies like "599.80h" are converted to URLs which looks kinda weird.
cptdrax is no longer AFK:
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Does new update show bttv/ffz badges?
anyone knows why emotes show up like this? only like 50% of emotes work
do you have any other twitch extensions enabled?
have the automatic claimer thing for drops/points but that's about it
no ffz or bttv?
nope disabled them when swapped to beta 7tv
do you have the beta and the stable versions of 7tv enabled together?
probably just needed to F5
tried f5 earlier but didn't really help that's the first thing i've done also reinstalled and same thing happened
but reloging fixed it so
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
i've had some friends with same issue but the only extension we had in comon was tampermonkey
did you also have stutters @covert sparrow ? its so bad for me rn 
ive turned off hardware acceleration and ffz
that should fix it for you
have you restarted the browser and/or your pc
browser yeah
try PC too
pc has been turned off and on multiple times today
but after you disabled hardware acceleration
its never on
hmm
i just switched back to 2.2.3 and its still stuttering
so shouldnt be 7tv at least
literally just 7tv 
i only have edge other than chrome 
try that 
@novel tiger https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/audio-compressor/daomidlfpcfjchpalpjogmnhabkekbnn this is the audio compressor I use in the meantime. works pretty well imo. you can set specific sites/pages for it to run on as well.
Anyone else having issues with stutter/hitching in Edge with the beta? So far every beta version has given me stutter issues, after about 15 mins twitch just hitches every 30-45 seconds. The original plugin still runs fines, disabled every other extension, no change. Disabling the plugin fixes it every time.
cant say I have tried running the extension in Edge. I know it has worked smooth for me in chrome, operaGX, and brave. have you tried running it in a different browser to see if the issue persists there?
new extension has left FFZ in the dust in terms of being able to close the settings at small window sizes
completely usable settings menu at tiny window sizes
amazing work
5
Will v3 get rich tooltips like ffz has?
i am digging the name mention
soon is . custom colors and possibly specific text strings? i.e. your name instead of a mention?
Important feature 
reminds me when FFZ added the font size option but didn't put a cap on it at first. people were making their shit so big they couldn't use twitch without resetting all their FFZ settings to default 
you can do that in chatterino too 

On Edge Browser, colon(:) emote searching does not show 7tv emote previews. I have tried with basic settings, clearing cache/cookies and having only 7tv enabled but no difference. Cannot replicate this on OperaGX and Firefox. Anyone else have this issue?
classic edge user agent claiming to be Chrome which would make the extension think it supports AVIF
not sure that's actually fixable
classic edge L

oh. ty for the explanation ๐
tweaks on PR #90 (https://github.com/SevenTV/ExtensionV3/pull/90)
made it blocky instead of round
i think that actually looks pretty good, not just a carbon copy of every other slider/toggle in existence
looks clean, i like it
this just happened to me, seems to be caused by rate limiter on the cdn
unsure if intentional but emotes probably don't get cached and keep getting refetched everytime an emote is posted, old extension does the same so I assume caching is left to the browser but it would be odd to get rate limited when it should be cached
all emotes are cached for the maximum time possible
you're just requesting a lot of them ๐
classic velcuz chat 
There's a set cap of 600 CDN requests / min
It's in an effort to encourage client implementors to avoid downloading every goddamn image when users open the emote menu (v2 does this btw)
most clients do it this way and it's an obvious waste of bandwidth
the new emote menu has a noticeable delay scrolling thru emotes, that's on purpose as there's no need to actually download images if you're just skimming through
RARE! 

Anyone else have the issue that if you search a emoji by : that the first one comes under the pinned message bar?


I searched the discord and apparently if your message isn't sent then the extension should grey out your message(?) but for some reason it doesn't work on my end.
Bottom picture is a screenshot using v2
i see, thanks 
~~hmm, is there anyway to overwrite the chat name color setting, the beta makes it impossible to read some names cause of there color and i cant use my FFZ with the current 7tv version ~~
im actually blind
make sure you actually have the option enabled
(it's a normal twitch setting, has nothing to do with extensions)
yikes, that is the first time i see that setting from twitch itself
thanks for the help D:
update for updates

beta 12 has ping sounds and tab title flash on mention
nice
W
W
ff when 
it's on firefox too
mozilla was always instant approval
chrome instant approval is a new thing though, used to take like 2 days to push an update
Theeere it goes! Nice.
i'll likely push a dummy patch in a few hours to test out the fast-updating
the notify mention sound scared me 
Yea i did look for updates a couple of times after you posted but just now found it.

what sound is it
ayyybubu made it 
poggers
can we get an option to decrease the sound of it 
Have 10 uploads on the appstore with different gain
yeah that would be great, my ears just got blasted 
turn yo speakas down
Well its compared to how i watch twitch streams or play games, i felt it just loud, ill prb get used to it tho
Add customization of mod icons with symbols and lengths 
if i turn down chrome to not get blasted by the ping then i wont be able to hear stream 
(i have not heard the ping yet)
ill look abt the ping sound, i use speakers so i dont necessarily know if its too loud
speaker users
anatole upon seeing headphones
idk how people wear headphones all day long
my ears would fall off eventually
a few hours with headphones and my ears ache
aint no goddamn way
just buy better headphones that donโt squish your ears
tbh then u have shit cushions or not flexible ones
yea i got huge ones that dont touch my actual ears
i cant stand that
the sound is cute af bubu
bibip ๐ซง
or be like others and get in ears for daily use
fuck in ears

yeah i have astros and they're fine
headphone users
I have the headset at 80% volume, opera gx at 30% and I hear everything great including the alert sound ๐
when i switch back to a tab all messages since last visit load in at once and scroll down super fast
is this intended
oh ok 
wasnt sure if was my shitty pc or not 
if that happened on non beta my pc would probably explode
this is to avoid a ui stall, which can happen when tabbing back in if it tries to load all messages on the same frame

browsers are weird, they'll let javascript keep cooking, but won't actually paint any changes
so tabbing out can lead to weird behavior if a lot happens while youre tabbed out
makes sense
this rapid scroll-out is mitigation, it evens out the load over a short period to avoid a total ui stall
I was going to ask about the chat scrolling like crazy when tabbing but I got my answer, is there going to be improvements or it's the only solution?
i'd say it's the best solution
you get to see a little bit of the past context in chat and within a couple seconds you're caught up with new messages, all with 0 lag
(worth noting native twitch itself lags slightly when tabbing back in)
bugfixing marathon today
Does anyone have this problem in Opera GX? When I look at the list of users the chat remains active
same in chrome
fixed in beta 12.2
Okey ty <3
nice coincidence 
question; does anyone know if you can run ads with /commercial on beta or is that native twitch chat only?

wakes up. fixes bugs before people ask
the fast-updater should fully work this update
so next update if you click update button it'll download and refresh the page seamlessly
on the previous patch it'd display an error(though still actually download in the background)
also sign-in works now
signing in/out from here will simultaneously affect the website, and vice-versa (you might even already be signed in within the extension if you recently logged into the site)
no functionality tied to in-app login yet but it is now possible to do things like changing cosmetics, emotes, etc, via twitch directly
when it comes around you should integrate paints and badge changes in the same spot you can do it on twitch
or maybe redo that menu entirely so it includes both twitch and 7tv cosmetics
thats the idea yea
would be sick asf
at first it's probably just going to be a button to open up the profile page inside the 7tv settings menu
yeah not a bad temporary solution
but a seamless integration within twitch's cosmetic picker can be fancy
Mention notification is pog
you are a MACHINE
gotta say I dig the square sliders and buttons over the round ones! 
built an entire system to do "super hints" (contextual call to actions, suggestions or pointers to guide users through to certain things)
and created a more modular ui float manager
should be much easier to work with
Thanks Anatole and the whole team ! Beta is now very stable and useful at least for me
i don't miss the badges anymore (ffz chatterino etc.)


as the prophecy foretold,
"a doubter is a believer who hasn't seen the light"


i guess i'm forever labeled as a fool now
idk if this is 100% from the extension but I believe it is where There is a bot message for sensitivity like
Sens 0.55 II DPI 800 but the extension is changing the 0.55 into a hyperlink to: https://0.0.0.55/
leaking my IP
please fix the channel points text being misaligned its driving me nuts

look again, it's fine

well i assume it's intentional then if it's "fine"
i love that you can change settings if you have a chat thats popped out
native chat users
Volume control for the mention notification would be liiiit
I had to disable it cause it was scaring the fuck outta me everytime 
If you had a mention in chat and you open the page again it re pings you
I'm not gonna use native v3 over chatterino until it has basic chatterino features 1:1
or at the very least becomes pwa

real
v3 is gonna replace v2 in a few weeks anyways 
moves to v1
seems like the latest update broke the mentions color in a /me msg, atleast its not respecting the readable colors setting anymore 
example
that is the readable color from a non /me chat msg
well, it added mention colors
so it didn't "break it" but i suppose it might not be supporting readable colors
who the fuck is that
i see theres some tokenization issue
embed fail
ill fix and release a .1 shortly
also these messages are kinda hard to read
compared to twitch ffz
damn i thought it was vanilla 
turns out twitch one looks even worse
blinding
the default twitch highlight is hideous
the one on 7tv was mostly just copied from it afaik, i didnt make it
ive been brainwashed by ffz i dont even know how vanilla twitch looks like anymore
same with the emote menu
but yeah turn down the opacity
and dont bold everything
probably just gonna fit it with the regular highlight style
do these highlights even follow the "channel theme"
wdym
ive always just seen them be the same color
found the issue with rando mentions 
empty username being assigned to the chatter map
what setting do u need to turn on for this 


+1 way our identical settings produce a different result 
not sure
ffz cannot render chat while 7tv beta is enabled
yea i assumed bubu posted with beta+ffz
but i just tested with stable+ffz and its the same result as first example
my yellow looks awful though 
nah its just twitch + ffz
the vanilla one is truly horrible though idk what they were thinking with that

not sure if it's been mentioned before, but it would be cool if when you hover on a 7tv badge it would tell you how long that person has been subbed to 7tv
it does say that for all of them except founder afaik
yeah, but it's according to the badge right? if I have the 6 months badge enabled, it only says (7tv subscriber 6 months), I was thinking more like
"7tv Subscriber (6 months)"
Subbed since XX/XX/XX
Also, I was changing badges for the above message and now it shows me 2 badges in chat at the same time
Idk if its just firefox or smth on my side, but the Beta is broken again for me. I dont see my badges, also dont see the colored mentions or any other chat features
Its like the portion of 7tv beta which handles the chat modifications is broken for me. Stable 7TV works fine when i switch to it
No volume slider in 13 
Can anyone of u test this with any Firefox Version? I tested it with a new different one and same issue for me lol
I added an emote called "CptDrax". Wrote "CptDrax" once at the start of my message, followed by test test test. Result as shown. First the emote, then the name as plain text, then as a link. Happened first time with beta 13, ffz and bttv not enabled. Happened in another channel before, where a users name was an Emote.

when renaming an emote it only shows this, 1st i added the emote and when trying to rename it, it's just a blank message
ohhh seee the problem is you're adding plink. that is a terrible emote. simple user error


leave plink alone

๐ค PLIIIIIIIINK
also this is causing the emote not to show after the alias
can confirm got the same results. had to refresh the page for it to change like some sort of pleb 
This happens both in chrome and firefox
PLINKERS
Weeb pfp
Does normal 7tv user's see beta 7tv paint on your name??
unless its changed IIRC only beta users see it for now
May I ask what is IIRC?
if i recall correctly
is a anyone else experiencing troubles with copying emojis? when i highlight a message, it doesnt highlight or copy the emoji at all 
That has happened to me! Made a fool out of me trying to copy pasta
example
same here 
๐คจ update failed? no update? did it update automatically?
Firefox still on 13101 but Brave updated to 13200
that's bc brave is chromium, Firefox has no way to auto update iirc
chrome has like api that allows for auto update if I remember right
Does Firefox need some sort of approval for updates?
idrk for certain
had that earlier. it had auto updated to the most recent version already
oh ok
love the mentions matching the persons name color, been handy for modding twice now.
chatterino features making it into web chat
Cant see when someone is timed out or banned unless its attached to a message in chat
btw after release the beta extension will be renamed "7TV Nightly" and continue to be used as a sort of pre-release branch before going to live
gon get dmca'd by nightdev




I like that though
having a nightly extension
call it "Knightly"
The suggestion would be to make a post with those suggestions in #1063506536154026024
if you want the FFZ menu, unfortunately right now you'll just have to use FFZ instead
since 7TV completely replaces the chat with a higher performance version
Yeah the "retail version" (
) basically just enables itself inside FFZ
with the 7TV addon
with a few other changes
Hiya, I was just wondering, In the Beta version is there a way to hide a particular set of twitch emotes? I no longer sub to some streamers (or wish to be reminded of them) but their bit emotes still remain in the twitch emote section of the emote menu. It would be great if we could hide these (apologies if this is the wrong section)
that'd be a great addition honestly
not sure if that's what you meant but something alike is gonna be in beta 14
fuck yeah no more bit emotes I never asked for!
Yes something like this would be fantastic. Even to be able to minimise the channels will be huge.
Currently in beta 13 the channels (when you open the emote menu) are on the right hand side and its got some unfriendly reminders of some difficult times on twitch for me due to bit emotes from those channels still being listed and showing.
Being able to hide them entirely would be fantastic (twitch wont remove bit emotes unfortunately) however, even the ability to minimise them in the way you have shown in your image is fantastic!
Thank you for all the hard work and the reply!
always wondered why they wouldn't make some sort of process to remove event/bit emotes that you don't want. even if it was buried in the dashboard and made you confirm, check a box, wait something like 5 seconds to click confirm explaining once its gone its gone
yeah I really wish they would to be honest. It would make such a huge difference to so many users.
pretty sure its up there as one of their most suggested features asked for on UserVoice. not that they listen to that 
yea I signed the uservoice thing ages ago
just happened to find this one. found the weeb 
twitch really went "the hell's nam???
"

Its NaM O'Clock
what browser
You're on Firefox that's your first problem
No
But yes it just went out

U have the .xpi file for me
so i can install manually
the green dot triggers my ocd
firefox is just the beta browser being strongarmed by google in its every move

brave on top
Still have the bug with beta 3 that i dont see my 7tv color or badge on my name but i see others
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are you actually chatting from the browser chat or chatterino
not sure though if you're correctly chatting from the browser with the extension on it should work fine
there isnt any known issue with this system currently
id be surprised to learn there is
Well im not dumb ๐ฆ
is there no like debug mode
thought a beta version would have one
theres verbose logging
open your browser console and enable it
top right on chrome ("log levels"), not sure firefox but should be similar
check if it's sending a presence request
when you type in chat
then right after it you should see event dispatches
do emote updates work for you
only thing i can think of is ur somehow not connected to the event socket
wdym
try adding an emote on ur channel and see if you see the message that it was added
and check for a related dispatch in logs
then try closing out all twitch tabs (across all browser windows) and reopening
events.7tv.io
can u try making a connection to it
const ws = new WebSocket(`wss://events.7tv.io/v3`);
ws.onmessage = (ev) => console.log("msg:", ev);
ws.onclose = (ev) => console.error("close", ev);```
@high geode paste this in browser console
if it's not your local net it could be cloudflare thinking you're sus
but test if it's not just a broken connection in the extension's shared worker
yes
looks good i guess?
It would be cool
I just tried it on my local vm with firefox and it doesnt work too, lemme try chome
if youre getting the hello/heartbeat then yea the connection is fine
wait wtf?
why does it work now
?????????????????
local vm still doesnt work
did that command console fixed it for some reason
lemme try that on my vm
theres a plan to make a general leap on YT stuff but it's waiting on better tooling
it's quite tedious to work on anything youtube atm
google keeps their shit pretty locked down and reverse engineering them is super complex
even just getting a channel ID is a pain in the ass
it's encoded in some weird never-seen format
Its my pihole
at least though i figured out a nice way to do the basic emote rendering- by not doing any rendering at all
classic
Like i disabled it, restarted Chrome on my local vm and it worked
so it must have prb fucked it up
ill just whitelist ur address and hope it works
ty!

Didn't look into it much but 7tv is flashing green, says there is an update. I try to update and it gets stuck on
Downloading
Please wait
I'ved tried closing the popup and trying again but same thing
Weeb pfp
nothing wrong with wanting to be part of the purge
what browser
just fyi the update button can't work on firefox
Oh.. it is firefox xD
you can do a manual update in that case, or just wait til' it auto-updates eventually
I can just wait, I just saw the green ping so went to look
in the future i'll just have that call to action disabled on firefox, it's there to attract your attention obviously but a bit annoying if you cant get rid of it 
No notification volume slider in 14 
you will enjoy having your eardrums blasted when someone requires your attention

7tv emotes stop showing after I've had a chat open for decent amount of time only showing bolded text
I'm only posting it here because I am not sure if its a bug with 7tv and I think it may be firefox
firefox users
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I was having a similar issue with zero-width emotes being separated after having a chat open for over say 15 minutes fixed by refresh
but only on my side
The emotes that other people put in chat zero-width combos or regular all work as normal its only from my pov of my own chats thats broken
this is fixed in beta 14
what is?
zero width in the middle of the menu only because it has different ratio
yea, it's still classed by size
im gonna have a different thing for zero-width though, where youll get suggestions as you type
my best guess here is that when the extension updated, the old stylesheet became unavailable which may have broke styling? thinking this since you've mentioned the zero-width issue being fixed by a refresh, which would make sense since it was fixed in an update pushed about an hour ago
im actually on beta 14
and its still doing it
wait actually I didnt fully read which you were replying too
the zero-width thing was acting that way on beta 13 and on the regular 7tv extension
I havent used the update long enough to see if it's resolved at least on my end personally
And this issue of emotes just showing up as bold text has been happening since beta 10 for me but doesnt happen on the regular 7tv extension
do you use any other twitch extensions
I have the ffz and bttv extensions
honestly I've never known which I'm supposed to use / not use anymore
technically you only need one these days
all the extensions have support for each others
I see I can remove them and see if anything changes
yes sir
I've been switching around the 3 extensions and it appears to be a bttv extension problem
no issues after 2 hours with only ffz and 7tv but as soon as I enabled bttv it occurred again

I'm unsure if it is an issue with firefox and bttv as compared to 7tv beta and bttv but I would assume it's the former
bttv has no tangible utility if you have the beta anyway 
the only thing I enjoy bttv extension for is seeing my emotes in my chat box before I send them
previewing it
fair
it's probably gonna be a thing when we make a custom input (twitch's input box is notoriously terrible)
I honestly dont know anything about the technical side it's just nice for seeing new emotes and things without having to open the emote menu
colon complete (:) can let you preview emotes as well if that helps
the twitch emote menu has always sucked so I never wanted to use it
thats true I completely forgot about ty
and i have something in the works that will show a floater above the input with tabbable emotes
it'll be like a bit of a carousel
oh thats dope
showing your current tabbed emote in the middle, on the left the previous ones, and on the right the next ones
the colon menu is so cluttered 
you can disable emojis from showing up there via settings
oh
just a lot of emotes i see
nah theyre repeating cause you have other extensions adding their own stuff
anything that doesnt have the (PROVIDER) at the end isnt from 7tv
I fixed it I think ty
I honestly just assumed the extensions were all supported with each other because they were for twitch
kinda dumb from my part haha
I'm not blaming you by any means dw
It was just silly thinking from me
It's unrealistic to just expect everything to work perfectly and smoothly
since all extensions have support for each others (with the exception of one) it's also best that users just use the one they prefer anyway
yea that makes sense
but ultimately they all do some of the same things which inevitably decreases stability
yea
ffz and bttv only have like one feature I like from them each so I've always just kept them on
ffz for badge visibility and bttv for the emote preview
yeah thats been sort of the issue with the old extension, being that it lacked the features to really be used standalone
I've actually been using the normal 7tv plugin in for months but I saw the beta one last month and I've liked it even more than the stable release
so thats what im aiming to fix with this new extension, providing a all-in-one experience; with the main twist being that the chat is completely new
yea the beta plugin chat experience looks a lot different
It's not an entirely different experience but it's small things that make it feel much different
going back to the non smooth scrolling chat is actual pain I've become so used to it 
yup
Anatole came reading this

About the new Chatterino 7.4.1., paint changes immediately but the badge takes a little bit of time. Just a thing i noticed
can't wait personal emotes arriving to Chatterino too ! 
badge needs 2 messages in most cases, this will need some core changes to chatterino to allow re-renders
it was probably explained somewhere, but i couldnt find it. what does connecting your twitch in the 7tv settings menu helps with?
it currently has no features tied, but it will let you change your cosmetics add emotes remove emotes add editors remove editors change channel settings manage your subscription create emotes report emotes change emote properties view your 7tv inbox-
also it's the same authentication channel as the website; if you're logged into the site you're also logged into the extension by default
and logging out of either will log out of both


I'm signed out of the extension but signed in on the site 
can't sign into the extension either
will there be more additions to the extensions on the YT side?
i miss having the chat besides the stream
literally answered today 
CLASSIC 
idk if this is necessarily a bug but @ ing someone shows a different color then when they type in chat (Firefox beta version v3.0.0.14000)
the extension doesn't seem to use twitch "readable chat colors".
I noticed that
The HSL loop or whatever it's called
Also I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that VOD chat doesn't have split message backgrounds

I can't wait for people to complain about not being able to see the list of emote names
(but no one really uses them)
wdym?
this doesnt take away any functionality it just visualizes your tab completion
lets you see whats ahead and whats behind
also lets you click on one of the matches if ur a mouse enjoyer
what does that look like if you dont put in the whole name 
im not sure what you mean by that, it's a tab completion visualizer
i mentioned a while ago i use middle/ending of emotes a lot
just curious if it still shows if i do "dankman" for feelsdankman or "ohappy" for peepohappy
that's colon completion

this only affects tab completion, press tab to go forward and shift+tab to go backwards
i see! thats neat
Is this more readable? 
i feel like it's a bit hard to read through though, feels cluttered due to chat contents being visible inbetween
its hard to read cause you add white outlines everywhere
not every component needs them
ok designer man what must we do here
this one looks good but just dont separate them
you can just keep the selected emote highlighted
< backwards | current | forwards >

or you could do the chatsen trick and just sort them alphabetically from left to right
better
what is the width fixed to
the amount of emotes?
would be cleaner if it had the same width as the chat input box
well obviously it would look better if the emotes werent out of place
the box looks better
enlarging the gap between emotes can make it look more even though
gonna change emotes to baseline alignment
so they all start from the same height
just give it the same gap as the emote menu
but yeah this looks nice
is this interactable by arrow keys?

the highlight is a bit too harsh
maybe you could try the same highlight as the emote menu


i like the way it looks, and I prefer it this way rather then with the border like shown here
i guess it cant be rounded then
is this like a carousel or does the highlight move left and right
carousel
so the highlighted emote always stays in the middle?
nah too many boxes

you can hover though

the gap is kinda distracting when there is text under it
it's just they look mega squished
not a big problem since you can hover and see it better
but not rlly eye pleasing
yeah wide can't be in their wide ratio really, no space
and it would make the UI go wild when rapidly tabbing
What if it's done like looking at ferris wheel from above. Selected emote in the middle is above both emotes left and right and could be expanded if wide ratio.

twitch emotes: the game
box on box on box
ApuArt this is like what ffz has
is it? 
yea
literally cant screenshot it though
because the stupid screenshot tool takes focus away from the window BEFORE taking the screenshot
ffz's only shows one at a time
but its the same thing
in a little bar tabbing goes to the next
if it only shows one at a time then its not really the same thing
nah its very very similar
its the "Inline Tab Complete" addon
stendec made it, its an official addon
this is better though, since like you said it shows more than one
why not include it as part of ffz though 
instead of showing next and previous with numbers
im just gonna be making this a default





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