#beta-discussion

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true flower
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are just this

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even mod actions twitch doesnt log in mod view

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are in pubsub

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theres an immediate flaw in this, in that someone already posted it for you to add it anyways FeelsDankMan

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also I'd be more worried that it caught a mod action

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than someone posted it

wind sapphire
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yeah but thats 1 person knowing it versus however many viewers currently in chat

kindred crown
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if someone posted it its already been made public, every existing client client under the sun prevents messages from actually being deleted

heavy widget
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instead of logging blocked words, you could put the name of the mod into the message, if a blocked word gets blocked.
Log: x has added a blocked term
if you try to type it in chat:
"X is blocked in this channel. The term has been added by x"

kindred crown
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that changes nothing

wind sapphire
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fair, that wasnt the best example

kindred crown
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i personally believe it's great this info is public

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and if i ran twitch

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id make it posted in chat

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by default

wind sapphire
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my main concern lies in terms that are added before they ever have a chance to be posted in chat

kindred crown
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is that a concern?

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if it's blocked it cant be posted

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so why does it matter

wind sapphire
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because now its being broadcasted which term was added?

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now people know the info anyway

kindred crown
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FDM yeah but the term is blocked

wind sapphire
kindred crown
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the interface doesnt guess 5 minutes in advance which terms is going to be blocked

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so if you try to type it it wont work

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its already blocked by the time you know

wind sapphire
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yes but they still know the info that was just blocked???

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if my legal name is Saffy Bop and i add it to blocked terms so no one doxxes me, i will now just broadcast that to the entire chat instead

true flower
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i mean the only thing that was a good case for that was the address thing but even idk why you'd be trying to block an address that seems frivelous

kindred crown
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well again

true flower
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anything else seems shady

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like to hide

kindred crown
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dont put your personal info in a public system

heavy widget
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Imagine a streamer added private info to the "public" blocked list because they think no one expect the mods can access it. Sure they were wrong but why letting them know by exposing their information?

true flower
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I dont want people to know I blocked the word cum

kindred crown
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ive just made you aware this isnt private so that you can avoid leaking your info

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i think it's nice that everyone else be aware

wind sapphire
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i seriously cannot agree that its "shady" to want to hide sensitive info

heavy widget
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still. there are plenty other options to "fix" that and you insist on the worst and most chaotic solution

true flower
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well blocked terms is NOT for sensitive info

kindred crown
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i dont want to fix it though

true flower
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its not like someone cant post it anywhere else

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or ad a space

kindred crown
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i think it should stay that way

true flower
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or a period

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to block it

kindred crown
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it might not, because twitch doesnt necessarily think like me

wind sapphire
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im thinking of all the people that wont hear about this info even after its released and still used the public blocked list in good faith, or for all the people that dont use 7tv at all and wont know others in chat have access to those terms now

kindred crown
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but im not gonna go out of my way to make a fuss about it, if they think it's bad this is public; they'll patch their api

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and the interface will silently stop showing that info, all it does is relay publicly available stuff

heavy widget
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or... inform them beforehand, wait a reasonable time for a reaction and release the tool of they do nothing.

wind sapphire
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i do kinda see your side of the argument as well, so my only ask now is that you at least try to make this change extremely clear before its released

kindred crown
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it's in beta

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so theres your time

heavy widget
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how many people use the beta?

kindred crown
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like 4 or 5000

edgy glacier
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5000 hacker bajsFeelsGoodMan

heavy widget
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idk... maybe it's enough people to bring damage to others, or maybe its not. hmm.

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i wouldn't do it tho, but I guess nothing can change your mind right now x)

edgy glacier
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So question if you would need that functionality of blocked terms would it be "safer" to add those terms to lets say streamelements instead?

wind sapphire
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add them to the private list

kindred crown
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the private list doesnt leak yeah

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though its streamer only

edgy glacier
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Right

sacred pike
wind sapphire
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yeah also that

edgy glacier
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Oh yea thats right

sacred pike
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yeah its not like by giving out the list people can just go hard spamming the words on the list

short compass
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my blacklisted word count LULE

kindred crown
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i would guess the full list is public info tho i wont show that

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only newly added/removed words

sacred pike
short compass
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most of these are variations of the n-word, various slurs, political shit, etc

wind sapphire
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LULE newly added def seems best

short compass
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there are also nicknames of some streamers simply because I think they're stupid

true flower
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there are many legacy public apis

kindred crown
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the purpose of the tool is to understand context

sacred pike
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I mean newly added leaves zero room for retards going OMG I put my creditcard info there wtf 7TV

true flower
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think like as legacy as like /tmi/chatterlist.txt

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or /tmi/vod chat or whatever that endpoint is

heavy widget
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and don't know about the plugin (yet)

kindred crown
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yeah stuff like which mod timed out someone is also public, i probably wont show that though

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would cause harassment

wind sapphire
sacred pike
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joemadashell fucking time me out will ya

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if anything it will weed the rejects out of chat real quick OMEGALUL

kindred crown
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or it'll be like gated deep behind a devmode lockout

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so only advanced users can turn it on

sacred pike
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something like FFZ experiments where they make it painfully obvious you shouldn't fuck with this if you dont know what youre doing

kindred crown
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yeah exactly

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because i know for sure this would be a gigantic clusterfuck if all of a sudden the name of the mods timing out a user became public

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the mald would be through the roof

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*became: it's public, but not as easily accessible

sacred pike
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juicers arguing with Fossabot AINTNOWAY

kindred crown
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i think it should be that way personally

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like if you wanna be a mod, you need to be able to take some heat

edgy glacier
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I'd love to see that, mainly because there is too many severely we todd ed mods on there.

kindred crown
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but it's not exactly how this works, this would cause too much drama

edgy glacier
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I am coming back from my 12 hour ban, and I want to say that I think it was bullshit.
Yes, I wrote a funny paragraph that turned into copypasta, which happened to bring a laugh or a smile to a few people.
If you mods wanted that to stop, you could have just said so,
there is so much copypasta going on in this chat that I could have never thought that deserved a 12 hour ban.
*analtoe is a mod in here and he is the one that banned me.
Anyway, I'm glad to be back

heavy widget
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I am coming back from my 12 hour ban, and I want to say that I think it was bullshit.
Yes, I wrote a funny paragraph that turned into copypasta, which happened to bring a laugh or a smile to a few people.
If you mods wanted that to stop, you could have just said so,
there is so much copypasta going on in this chat that I could have never thought that deserved a 12 hour ban.
*analtoe is a mod in here and he is the one that banned me.
Anyway, I'm glad to be back

sacred pike
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Madeg streamer you need to get your mod analtoe in line! I was just given a ban for posting an ASCII of goatse in the chat! a little fucking warning would have been nice!

kindred crown
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oh nvm i think its actually a bug, seems like it only exposes that info on channels where you've been a mod once before

sacred pike
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makes sense because as a mod it let's you know who did the ban FeelsDankMan

edgy glacier
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Make it a req to add 7tv as mod for the service to workFeelsGoodMan

kindred crown
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ok thats fine then i guess, there wont be that much malding

sacred pike
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streema mod me its a 3rd party thing

edgy glacier
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redeemed "Become mod for 1 day"

wind sapphire
sacred pike
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early on one of my streamers did that. holy fuck it was so annoying. mfs like FeelsDankMan I accidently turned on slow mode and follower mode and timed out 5 people? nah it was my cat it walked on my keyboard

sacred pike
edgy glacier
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Hilarious stuff

narrow wind
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Redeem "Become mod for 1 second" so I can see which mod times me when I'm just having fun Madeg

kindred crown
frank kite
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that looks great

kindred crown
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also little warninge on the first time opening

frank kite
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very nice

kindred crown
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pressing "close" also removes the button

frank kite
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oh nice

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you should add that on there too including "you can reenable it in the settings"

kindred crown
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you should learn how to read

frank kite
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oh right

kindred crown
sacred pike
frank kite
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yeah i now realize

narrow wind
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Will I have to click the acknowledgement on every computer I use?

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Or will it sync?

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This is what I'd like the highlight borders to look like:

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8 pixels from the little gray bar on the left, 9 pixels from the right border of the webpage

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8 pixels between the badge and the bright pink bar

kindred crown
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working pretty well

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yeah that warning message is staying LULE

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shoutout to kai's mods for making my testing easy

frank kite
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looks really good mr tole

gentle ridge
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Looks good PagStick

lapis wedge
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when this rolling out?

versed temple
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Bruh kai's chat

frank kite
lapis wedge
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can this be popped out or does the mod log box remain in chat as a collapsible box?
nvm think I answered my own question from the first 2 images

kindred crown
kindred crown
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it can sit besides the chat, under the stream or something if you want to Stare constantly

versed temple
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Move it on top of stream so we dont have to watch shit content FeelsOkayMan

kindred crown
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beta numero ocho is live Okayeg

gentle ridge
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Some messages aren't showing up and also imo messages from other chats shouldnt show

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It seems like mod messages only get logged if you have the mod logs window open Hmm

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wait now its working

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also stream is lagging and buffering really bad with the beta enabled. If someone else can confirm

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When i disable the extension and reload everything works fine and is smooth

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I enable it again and reload and it lags so bad

frank kite
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could it be an adblock you are running?

kindred crown
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wat FeelsDankMan

frank kite
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cuz everytime i use a adblock it does that for me

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if thats what you mean

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cuz its working fine for me

gentle ridge
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it only lags when the extension is enabled

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Ill disable my adblock and check one sec

frank kite
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yeah

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that could be it

kindred crown
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it's not really possible for the page to lag, cpu load is significantly less than native twitch

frank kite
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also when looking at the mod logs it still shows the mods and timeouts when changing channels

gentle ridge
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I disabled my adblock and its still happening

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Stream freezes every couple of seconds

kindred crown
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try with only 7tv enabled

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i dont believe you

gentle ridge
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disabled everything besides 7tv and its still happening

kindred crown
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FeelsDankMan are you trolling

gentle ridge
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no

kindred crown
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browser?

gentle ridge
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opera gx

kindred crown
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uh

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maybe thats the issue

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try a non-chinese browser

gentle ridge
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One sec ill try on chrome

frank kite
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yea im using chrome and i havent ran to any problems

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could just be a browser problem

gentle ridge
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It just started happening with the update

kindred crown
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is it happening on chrome or not

gentle ridge
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no

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weird

kindred crown
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ok operagx skill issue i guess

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just dont use made in china browser 4HEad

frank kite
kindred crown
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yea i dont really get why people use that browser

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its unironically developed by a chinese company which is bounded by chinese law and required to collect data for the ccp

frank kite
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froggy they have your IP MONKAS

kindred crown
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it doesnt even do anything special

frank kite
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its so odd they do that shit

kindred crown
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it's just chrome with a "gamer" label slapped onto it

frank kite
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classic

kindred crown
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users of opera gx will claim it "uses less memory", but what that really means is it just undoes some of the optimizations chrome does with memory allocs

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most decent modern browsers allocate more mem than needed, but just because it appears "used" in your os doesn't mean it cant be taken back by other programs

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it's not really used memory, it's jut preallocated to make things faster

frank kite
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froggy using some fake shit then

kindred crown
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yep

frank kite
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@gentle ridge we making you transition to chrome

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or firefox

gentle ridge
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I used chrome for the longest i just recently started using operagx

kindred crown
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but why ApuThink

gentle ridge
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I just wanted to try it and i liked it

frank kite
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was it the memory/cpu thing?

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oh

kindred crown
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FDM but its 99.9% like chrome

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theres only a few changes and reverted optimizations

gentle ridge
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idk man FeelsDankMan

kindred crown
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well great i guess ill have to test with that bullshit

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not downloading it tho im gonna use browserstack lule

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aint no way im putting chinese spyware on my pc

frank kite
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i guess people have preference from chinese browser vs legit browsers

gentle ridge
heavy widget
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how can ffz interfere with 7tv buttons now? they turn purple when both extensions are enabled. LULEO

gentle ridge
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I noticed that too LULW didnt realize ffz did that

kindred crown
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wtf FeelsDankMan

narrow wind
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Looks kinda cool

heavy widget
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Is there a setting to activate time stamps for chat or am I missing something? I see timestamps for chat history and now for mod logs, but not for normal chat.

kindred crown
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yeah normal twitch settings

heavy widget
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  • Multiple timeouts of the same user are not shown.
  • If a reason is applied, it isn't shown in the logs (intended?).
  • Instead of "x seconds ago", "x minutes ago", a timestamp would be better imo. In my example cases "x seconds ago" is one line more than "1 minute ago". When it switches from "x seconds ago" to "1 minute ago", the additional line disappears which changes the position of below timeouts because they slide up one line . Could be hard to read if there are multiple timeouts and every now and then lines come up or disappear.
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Bans and Timeouts all have a red background. could be cool to have different colors for different punishments. yellow for 1 second and more red (yellow -> orange -> red) the longer the timeout is. Full red for ban. Unbans are not shown at all. I don't see a real reason to add them but could be a nice info as well (green background then)

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/clear is not shown in the mod logs

gentle ridge
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I agree with the different colors but instead of changing color based on timeout length it should be yellow for timeouts and red for ban

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And for unbans or any other mod action it could be green

heavy widget
gentle ridge
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Yeah I can imagine seeing a bunch of different colors especially in fast chats would get way too dank pretty fast

wind sapphire
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yeah I'd rather see different colors for different actions

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I'd also like to be able to customize colors for first messages, subs, redeems, timeouts, bans, unbans etc

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neat to get to decide yourself and helpful for colorblindness

heavy widget
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I'm fine with most of the current colors but the highlighted messages for channel points is way too bright imo. Would be nice to customize these.

edgy glacier
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Looks real cool if you didnt restart the browserFeelsGoodMan

forest vortex
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It should appear even if you are not a mod?

true flower
ebon wing
narrow wind
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This looks sick

kindred crown
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PagStick wtf not a complaint

true flower
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PagAnus

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yo anatole

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can we get an exeption

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for PagAnus

short compass
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at least make it more subtle, like "PaganUs" OMGScoots

true flower
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no

kindred crown
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melon implement youtube

short compass
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PagAnus is just goatse

true flower
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yes

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with a pag

narrow wind
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control-enter message sending should be top priority right now 🤓

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and/or also being able to bypass the arbitrary 30-second cooldown on repeated messages because half the time it's only clientside because the message didn't actually send

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Borderline feature-creepy, but I think 7TV is the best place for a feature like that

lapis wedge
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I think I broke it

true flower
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firefox?

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restart browser

lapis wedge
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yeah, fixed it

true flower
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happens after an update before you've restarted firefox

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why firefox even caches a local file? Shrugeg

short compass
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big c(l)ock

lapis wedge
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I like the mod logs view in beta 8, but the bots quickly fill it up. Maybe remove/omit bots so its only actual user logs would be nice.

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I do like that staff is included tho LULE

gentle ridge
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The message logging is really inconsistent

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Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt

wind sapphire
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it doesnt work for me at all LULE

kindred crown
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it only logs if the window is opened

wind sapphire
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yeah FeelsDankMan

lapis wedge
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ability to resize the box would be p nice also

true flower
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Apu whats the point in that then though

gentle ridge
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true FeelsDankMan should be logging all the time

cedar forge
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anyone knows if the send same message function is getting implemented in next betas?

kindred crown
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it will log all the time in a later patch, its just that i didnt have the time to do it in an efficient way

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need to refactor a couple things

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i couldve added yet another map for authority messages but thats getting a little out of hand

wind sapphire
amber terrace
gentle ridge
true flower
kindred crown
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idk we have so many maps LULE i was thinking of setting up an EventTarget intead

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so components can subscribe and get specific messages

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i think thats the way

true flower
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Doesn't that just move the problem though

kindred crown
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wdym?

true flower
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Well now instead of 2 arrays in one component you have duplicated data across multiple components

kindred crown
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dom event listeners maintain memory dont they?

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objects sent through them are referenced not copied i think

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unless im wrong on that

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DOM EventTarget and not message channels *

drifting wharf
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Autoclaim seems to be working well. Time to finally drop FFZ.

narrow wind
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I don't use FFZ because I'm LOYAL

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BUT there are still a few features I want from FFZ

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The main one is the latency indicator

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and how you can click it to show/hide video stats

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extremely convenient

short compass
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I quite like their mixer

narrow wind
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NinjaGrumpy

unique monolith
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honestly i only used ffz for the audio compressor but i’ve found that using a separate extension for it worked better

broken vine
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latency indicator, and auto leaving raids is the only reason i have ffz still

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that's cool to hear the 7tv autoclaim is working

gentle ridge
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The reset player button that ffz has is a must for me

drifting wharf
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It's nice to have when watching scuffed / IRL streams that constantly get a delay.

narrow wind
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pausing and resuming (or changing resolutions) will also skip ahead to "live" when delay gets introduced

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or just install video speed controller and fast forward

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(this is why I need the latency meter)

sacred pike
limpid stone
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has anyone figured out how to change the timestamp format from 24 hr to 12 hr?

stone coyote
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only rounded at the top?

forest vortex
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omg that image MONKAS

narrow wind
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WutFace LU
WutFace KA
WutFaceW TIM

narrow wind
stone coyote
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blud idk

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thats why i posted it here

narrow wind
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Looks fine as-is to me

stone coyote
covert sparrow
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don't have ss but i've seen many times where links get displayed 3 times together

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one is a hyperlink, one is unformatted, and one is bold

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like
https://youtube.com https:/youtube.com https:/youtube.com

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with no spaces

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and ik it's with the extension bc it shows as one link in chatterino

unique monolith
unique monolith
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np ^^

covert sparrow
inner bolt
wind sapphire
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he's saying he has the same problem and a screenshot of it which you didn't Lime

narrow wind
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🙆‍♂️

covert sparrow
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I'm so dank

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he posted a channel and I thought mf was just typing #link omE

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sorry I just woke up after that

narrow wind
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🔗 🙆‍♂️

wind sapphire
timber scroll
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Moderator messages in new Mod Logs feature recording only when Mod Logs window is opened? 🤔

timber scroll
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When I turn on 7tv beta and BetterTTV at the same time, I don't see my "BetterTTV translator" badge. All good when 7tv is off. By the way, everything is displayed with the old version of 7tv.

kindred crown
shadow basalt
narrow wind
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That’s not as big as the pic that other guy posted

kindred crown
shadow basalt
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fix yo shit

kindred crown
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ask mozilla

shadow basalt
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@mozilla be better

kindred crown
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not my fault they

cache a local file

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FeelsDankMan crayonTime makes sense

wind wigeon
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who did this

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i'm gonna have your head on a stake

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ok time to farm commits again

true flower
wind wigeon
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no it fucking doesn't look nice

true flower
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L

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already received compliments about it

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like 5 to 1

wind wigeon
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ok you're lucky my windows install shit itself

narrow wind
narrow wind
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And I'd also add that the text is closer to the right border than the pause icon is to the left border

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not that the left border is incorrect, since it's about the same distance on both sides of the icon

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but there needs to be a bit more space on the right to be visually aligned

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This might be because the ⏸️ is taller than it is wide, but the svg itself is square

narrow wind
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this one

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sorry about the necropost

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it's just too funny

shadow basalt
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Yea this beta thing is buggin

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pretty sure thats why some of my messages look like they dont send

narrow wind
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I think

shadow basalt
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Never seen it before Beta

narrow wind
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well, that's a feature

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it means your message didn't send

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But it's not caused by the extension

narrow wind
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the extension merely shows the message as transparent until it sees it come through

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check chatterino. If it's actually sending, then it's a bug

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if it didn't actually send, then it's working as intended

shadow basalt
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YEABUTCHATTERINO

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Ill just live with it looking like not sending

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Not going to install that dogshit on my pc

narrow wind
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bruh

sacred pike
shadow basalt
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can I remove that

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I like the ignorance

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Its literally like every other message

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Theres no way

narrow wind
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Bruh

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it's like you've never watched xqc before

sacred pike
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YOU WILL ACCEPT THIS KNOWLEGE

narrow wind
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normally twitch chat just shows you that the message sent even if it didn't

shadow basalt
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Yes thats what I want

narrow wind
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You are a norman

narrow wind
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Don't be so hard on yourself

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I only said norman

versed temple
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KKonaW classic sheeple dosent want the truth

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Chatterino also shows dropped message? How does it look like

narrow wind
frank kite
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you literally just dont see it

versed temple
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I wonder if twitch would be ok with showing dropped message

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Or they ReallyMad

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For removing the illusion of chatting in chat

narrow wind
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well

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They definitely care about it

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but only indirectly

versed temple
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If the dropped message indication discourages chatting then yea

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Do we know when twitch drops the message? Like depends on location or just random chances

narrow wind
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Just watch chatterino in a fast chat

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when the chat pauses, all messages during that time are being dropped

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you can only send messages when the chat is moving

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You get used to it

wind sapphire
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im super curious to see how more ppl are gonna react when they can't perfectly time their messages in fast chats anymore

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all that pattern recognition out the window

carmine imp
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I'm having the bug where my messages are blurred like they are not sent again

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Started with beta 8

wind sapphire
shadow basalt
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Apparently 90% of messages on active chats are just never sent

wind sapphire
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yeah it's not a bug it's a feature (literally)

carmine imp
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Opening the same stream in a new tab seems to have fixed the issue but it happens everytime I go to another channel with a fast chat

wind sapphire
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twitch just never tells you when your message doesn't go through

carmine imp
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Nevermind it happens again LULE

narrow wind
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during average xqc speeds

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during the MoS !play spam it definitely hits 90% though

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Almost impossible to get a message through

gentle ridge
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Sometimes the message will go though but it will still be greyed out in chat

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It happened to me a few times in slower chats

narrow wind
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How did you know it went through? Chatterino?

gentle ridge
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The chat was on screen

narrow wind
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ah

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What was the message?

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Like any weird characters?

gentle ridge
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no just emotes

sacred pike
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PepeLaugh everyone finding out they been screaming into the void for years

narrow wind
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Honestly the ignorance is for the best

sacred pike
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nah I wanna know if it sent or not. not to mention it's no different than if I just checked in Chatterino if it actually sent

narrow wind
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Yeah not for US of course

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but for the masses

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they don't need to know

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Twitch will not be able to handle it

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Imagine if BTTV or FFZ showed how many messages were dropped

sacred pike
#

Sadeg poor small indy company twitch

narrow wind
#

true

sacred pike
#

I get when you have 80k people all spamming shit sometimes things are gonna get dropped but when you watch the same shit happen (albiet rarely) in a 100 chatter channel too you're like aPES4_WeirdStare fix your shit twitch

shadow basalt
#

My 'dropped' message was responded to

#

So yea Imma call it on this beta and switch back for good lol

kindred crown
#

use beta build, complain, don't actually detail the issue, uninstall GIGACHAD

narrow wind
graceful oxide
#

the extension doesnt work please fix

kindred crown
#

what a retard

#

anyway this was meant to be removed actually

#

not sure why it's still in

#

it turns out this is a twitch experiment and doesn't always work

true flower
#

"switch back for good"

#

lmao

#

guy doesnt know the v2 is going away Tomfoolery

sacred pike
#

Madeg ANALTOE U NAB! SIPORT V2 4 ME!

#

goes back to v2 to ctrl+enter spam messages that aren't even dropping in chat

narrow wind
#

control+enter is a valid reason

#

one feature that v3 needs before it's properly usable

true flower
#

I dont want chatterino to become a spam tool, therefor im closing this issue

narrow wind
#

there for Nime

#

For me, it's not (usually) about spamming

#

it's about sending my message UNTIL I actually see it go through

#

because I only write messages that are important

#

I'm not going to waste my time writing stuff that gets sent to the ether

gentle ridge
#

I use it literally all the time for modding purposes to send links fast

narrow wind
#

No one has been dumb enough to trust me as a mod for years

#

but yeah that's a good point

#

doing that in native requires you to cv paste enter repeatedly

gentle ridge
#

or up arrow and enter but id rather just hold one button and spam enter

narrow wind
#

although twitch has added that "pinned message" feature to solve the issue

#

so people can do that instead of spamming

narrow wind
gentle ridge
#

it works with any message

#

Ive gotten so used to holding control when sending messages that i do it out of habit and it doesnt work

narrow wind
#

even if the link wraps to a 2nd line?

#

I thought pressing "up" just went up to the 1st line in that case

gentle ridge
#

yeah it works

narrow wind
#

Oh you're right

#

I'm dumb

#

You wouldn't have anything in the text box when you press up if you're link spamming

#

duh

gentle ridge
#

the person i mod for allows chat spam so thats another reason i want it

narrow wind
kindred crown
#

ctrl+enter is in the parity list

#

it will be there before release

gentle ridge
shadow basalt
shadow basalt
# kindred crown what a retard

Did detail the issue
Was told I was wrong and that it's working as intended
Explained its not working
Removed due to that and the incredibly buggy visual issues it is still having that cannot be fixed 'because mozilla'

kindred crown
#

what visual issues are there on mozilla?

true flower
#

😭 lil bro @still swallow the only dev who uses mozilla complaining about a bug on firefox

#

hi @still swallow

shadow basalt
#

The paints disappearing, badges disappearing, chat having a single emote per line of text causing walls of a single message, the mod buttons becoming the size of my screen

kindred crown
#

half of this is a firefox bug

true flower
#

you need to restart your browser

#

when that happens

#

firefox caches the old stylesheet ids

kindred crown
#

or all of it actually

true flower
#

when an update happens

kindred crown
#

thats 100% just an issue due to firefox thinking it makes sense to cache a local file

true flower
#

making all content on the newly installed build unstyled

shadow basalt
#

That's the thing, it's the browser I use and having to restart my browser whenever it fucks up is not something I need to deal with while using V2. So why bother for now

true flower
#

its not "whenever it fucks up"

#

its only when an update occurs

#

while your using the browser

kindred crown
#

melon i had a guy on twitter complain there we were doing too many updates

#

its actually a thing

narrow wind
#

🤓 @shadow basalt you need to just deal with the issues.

true flower
kindred crown
#

some people dont like updates

narrow wind
#

do not uninstall the beta

graceful oxide
#

fuck this im switching to bttv

#

at least they dont update

narrow wind
#

LULE

kindred crown
#

💀 bro installs a beta then complains it's being updated often

#

NAH

shadow basalt
kindred crown
#

👋Okayge thanks for your feedback i am sure the beta will miss you mr grozatta

narrow wind
#

NO. You MAY NOT uninstall the beta '

#

You MUST use V3

shadow basalt
#

Idk why you are getting so worked up over this lmao

narrow wind
#

V2 usage is BANNED

kindred crown
#

no one is getting worked up, you're the one complaining FDM

#

you couldve just uninstalled and not participate

narrow wind
#

He did report the bug though

kindred crown
#

which bug

shadow basalt
#

You called me a retard for not keeping a beta installed

narrow wind
#

It's not really a complaint

kindred crown
#

i called your reason for uninstalling retarded

#

because it was

shadow basalt
#

That is falsely reports dropped messages?

true flower
#

hi @still swallow

still swallow
#

bye

narrow wind
#

tfw you get @still swallow without your consent

lapis wedge
#

poor ed

kindred crown
#

skull

still swallow
#

what a bunch of retards lmao

narrow wind
#

TRUE

tardy grotto
swift gorge
#

Is there a quick way to check if a bug is known? Specific the animated avatars toggle not working? AKA unable to turn them off

sacred pike
narrow wind
#

why is discord displaying images in the most useless way possible?

lapis wedge
#

when you type : + emote name and the preview window pops up for all the emotes is it supposed to BRRR rapid auto scroll when you move your cursor onto the window?

kindred crown
#

looks like you have another extension messing it up

#

a lot of those lack the (PROVIDER) label at the end which means theyre not inserted by 7tv

#

Btw should be a huge performance boost next patch

#

Ive found a major perf hog

#

and removed it

fallow bridge
#

nice

kindred crown
#

Currently averaging 10% cpu on xqc's chat

#

~7-8% closer

#

(previously was ~24% avg)

#

satisfied with this, this is about as good as it gets when it comes to chat performance

#

although theres still some parts we can gain a bit extra, it'll be marginal increases now, the big barrier is gone

kindred crown
#

it's more like 5% on powerpoint mode

lapis wedge
#

was BTTV, disabled and fixed it, no more drops and moments auto claim sadCat

lapis wedge
#

yeah but, heater in the winter

narrow wind
#

I found this the other day

#

it claims moments as well

#

and "drops" which I guess are like game-related things

#

but those already claimed automatically afaik

#

I mean, you had to click "claim" but you could do that from your inventory at any time

lapis wedge
#

drops, yes think you are correct, already auto claimed.
thanks for the recom. but mozilla user, no a fan of chrome

narrow wind
#

Maybe anatole could take a look at the code for this extension and implement it in 7TV Tomfoolery

#

He already has the channel points claimer

lapis wedge
kindred crown
versed temple
#

PEPW forEach element

kindred crown
#

We aren't complete animals at 7tv
if a feature is to be made it will be done in a sane way

narrow wind
#

(not a monero miner)

#

I know you don't want to copy them as far as implementation

#

but just as far as knowing what the element to claim moments is called

#

stuff like that

kindred crown
#

Yea i mean if they did it the way im thinking they did it then that has no worth to me

covert sparrow
narrow wind
#

yeah it's not as nice as my userscript

#

and by "my" I mean one I stole from greasyfork and modified a bit for some reason

kindred crown
narrow wind
#

FeelsStrongMan ThreeLetterAPI ancient emote

kindred crown
#

wutface though obsfucated code and not open source

#

daniel's video game

#

get that shit away from me

hollow shard
#

is the beta extension available to work on? or rather keeping it to a smaller group of people?

#

I'm using both 7tv and ffz (with 7tv add on disabled), but keep seeing inconsistent behavior across different windows

#

(and I know not all features have been implemented/ported over yet)

ocean void
#

Oh...theres a beta category now

graceful oxide
#

7emao there is no bug

ocean void
#

This fuckin guy

covert sparrow
#

Silence

narrow wind
#

Very interesting

#

It's like it's dropping the incoming messages that (I assume) 7TV uses to see if the message was dropped

#

I wonder if chatterino suffers the same problem

#

I personally haven't seen it

swift gorge
#

This thing. No worky

#

Just didn't want to double report it but I couldn't find it anywhere Danki

kindred crown
#

in the next patch the cosmetics that were enabled at time of posting will stay Okayge (also goes for emotes that were/weren't enabled)

versed temple
#

TF time to change paint every other message

#

or random paint every message

narrow wind
#

Tomfoolery Tom J. Foolery, at your service

#

The emotes thing is great too

lapis wedge
#

paint 7

#

founder animated paint when Smadge

gentle ridge
versed temple
covert sparrow
patent pewter
#

now i can't even see peoples paints and badges in the chat. i'm switching back to v2 Painsge

covert sparrow
#

LULE ???

sacred pike
#

Madeg ANALTOE U NAB! Gib Bek da badjizz n paynt!

patent pewter
#

here's an example. My paint and badge is visible but the person above me (7tv sub) shows nothing. Chatterino on the left shows everything correctly.

covert sparrow
#

that or the user changed/removed their paint and it hasn't updated on chatterino yet

wind sapphire
#

yeah chatterino is still ultra slow

patent pewter
covert sparrow
#

like 2-3h now

patent pewter
#

2-3 hours Painsge

wind sapphire
#

yea but chatterino was always slower in my experience

#

even after it had updated on website

covert sparrow
#

Always took like 24h for me kek

covert sparrow
ocean void
unique grail
#

errm

#

what happened with responses in beta issues

gleaming pagoda
#

not sure if this is intended or planning to fix, but after installing the beta, I can't type people's usernames and use tab to autocomplete without the use of @

#

like before i could type rhe and hit tab and it would autocomplete someone's username

#

i see a thread has been created*

sacred pike
#

yeah not currently supported and I dont think Anatole plans to go that route last I saw. I think the plan is going to be keep tab for emote completion and right clicking on a username is going to be a quick way to mention them. like in chatterino

gleaming pagoda
#

where is the option to enable the right clicking?

#

i don't see it when i select the 7tv button on twitch

sacred pike
#

not implemented yet. just what I last heard the plan was from I think somewhere in #1063506536154026024

gleaming pagoda
#

ah gotcha

#

thanks for the quick/informative answers good man o7

#

that's pretty much my only gripe against the beta is i miss being able to auto complete that username, but when the right-clicking becomes available, might be able to get used to that

sacred pike
#

yeah for now you'll just have to stick to @ completion. threw me off for a day or two but you'll adapt quickly

patent pewter
#

name paints are fucked in the latest version. my own paint is a fuzzy mess and others paints are not loading at all Painsge

#

could be though i have to wait a couple of hours this new version to sink in first. Hmm

lapis wedge
#

Beta9? The paints working for me. Actually noticed my paint loaded immediate when typing, before it would take a message or two for it to load.

patent pewter
#

for me it's now other way around. paints are gone or fuzzy. no matter how many times i type something in the chat.

lapis wedge
#

maybe its fuzzy(?) dunno coffee still hasn't kicked in

patent pewter
wind sapphire
#

they look a bit fuzzier than before to me too

patent pewter
#

v2 vs. the magnificent v3. guess i'm going back to v2 again.

wind sapphire
#

wtf that is so odd LULE

lapis wedge
#

oh yeah the saturation or opacity looks fucked

wind sapphire
#

the colors arent even in the right order

#

no darkreader or anything?

patent pewter
#

Can this be fixed ASAP ? i've been trying to make this work for an hour already. upper screenshot is v2 and lower is v3.

wind sapphire
#

do you use darkreader at all

patent pewter
#

i do.

#

does it matter ? v2 looks superior.

#

faded out paint FeelsBadMan other peoples paints don't show up at all.

true flower
#

darkreader has determined that the paint is something that needs to be dark modified

#

why even have darkreader enabled on twitch?

#

its already dark mode

wind sapphire
#

thought so FeelsDankMan

drifting night
#

hm moderation sliders are no longer a thing in v9?

patent pewter
drifting night
sacred pike
#

I was having a few issues at first too. everything was fixed when I closed and reopened my browser entirely

drifting night
#

tried that, f5 and few else no luck unfortunately sadge

#

guess it will fix itself after some time

covert sparrow
cedar forge
#

beta 9 broke autocomplete...no more working with TAB

covert sparrow
wind sapphire
#

ive had ffz and beta and had 0 problems with autocomplete until 9 Hmm

cedar forge
#

no everything off (bttv ffz), beta 9 that just got released broke something, i was using beta 8 without issues...

patent pewter
#

i have problems with autocomplete too. Some emotes won't work. Just 5 minutes ago i tried typing CookieTime and it didn't work. Bruhge

north ingot
#

wtf happened with the extension? nymnDank

sacred pike
#

thats a firefox issue. close and reopen your browser is the fix iirc

north ingot
#

oh nymnDank

sacred pike
#

something with how it caches the images FeelsDankMan

narrow wind
#

I'm loving the performance improvments

mellow fern
#

🤣

true flower
mellow fern
#

lmao

#

he's jealous

true flower
#

LULE thats such an eyesore

#

everything is the same color

mellow fern
#

even discord pepeLaugh

wind sapphire
#

awful

mellow fern
#

hahahaha

sacred pike
#

I forgot how shit "dark" mode was on discord! no wonder I changed that shit!

wind sapphire
sacred pike
#

like that

wind sapphire
#

oh ew

sacred pike
#

Shrugeg I like what I like. haters gonna hate

covert sparrow
tardy grotto
narrow wind
#

I've been getting this after a few minutes of using the new version

#

Might just be me because I use arch btw

#

But it wasn't happening on the previous version of the extension

carmine imp
#

Ok this new beta has to be a troll beta

#

The chat box vanishes when I start typing in it

true flower
#

no just massive twitch changes

#

that broke literally everything

carmine imp
mellow fern
tardy grotto
wind sapphire
drifting wharf
#

Did Twitch change shit on their end as well? I thought the new bugs were just related to This release includes major code refactors

sacred pike
#

twitch changes some of the weirdest smallest things and it somehow manages to break everything aPES3_GeKek

patent pewter
#

i can see some changes. like the volume slider showing percentage lookUp

sacred pike
#

dont get me wrong I don't mine nice aesthetic shit like that. by all means upgrade shit, but I feel like sometimes they just change shit for the sake of keeping their oversized dev team busy and it breaks shit

carmine imp
#

The chat scrolling back to the current messages after being tabbed out for a few minutes

lapis wedge
#

the % on volume has been there for like a week or two for me

sacred pike
#

yeah that was about 2 weeks ago. bluegloss was just using it as an example id imagine

wind sapphire
#

i hate the numbers on the slider

#

its shit now

sacred pike
#

I never use the volume slider on twitch I just adjust via my headset volume control

fallow crag
#

Is anyone having issues with the chatbox disappearing? It seems to happen a lot when I do :m and it also mutes the stream I'm watching.

#

Just started happening with Beta 9

patent pewter
#

the paints are gone again Pepepains

fallow crag
#

RIP

#

I just unlinked my Twitch account so that my new Twitch name would show up in 7TV and now everything is gone

#

My paints, badges, subscription, etc.

patent pewter
#

holy shit

fallow crag
#

I can't even cancel my sub on my old username.

covert sparrow
#

@fallow crag What's your old twitch username

fallow crag
covert sparrow
#

And your new username? @fallow crag

fallow crag
covert sparrow
#

ok thankfully there's a fix you can do I think

fallow crag
#

Yes

covert sparrow
#

ok so your old account and your new account both have discord linked but only your new account has twitch linked

fallow crag
#

Correct

covert sparrow
#

there's one fix you can do but it's kinda a pain and you'll be stuck with your old user still

#

username changes will come around soon enough

fallow crag
#

I wonder if I login with my MommyPilkers alt if I'm able to get access back to it.

#

I own both Twitch usernames.

covert sparrow
#

No just wait

#

Step 1: On your new account, with twitch linked, unlink the DISCORD account that's linked to it.

Step 2: create a new discord account and link it to your new 7tv account that was accidentally created

Step 3: unlink your twitch account from the new 7tv account

Step 4: log out of the new 7tv account and then right click the sign in button and login with discord. You can then login with the original discord account linked and you should gain access to the old account

Step 5: link your twitch account to your old 7tv account

#

it's a pain but that's the only current fix I know of

#

Hopefully soon username changes will come but devs are super busy with new extension

fallow crag
#

Followed the instructions and now getting this error

versed temple
#

You havent linked your twitch to your subbed acc it seems

fallow crag
#

It won't let me link it.

#

Just gives me that error when I give Twitch access to link to 7TV

versed temple
#

Hmm
Wait a while and see
Maybe the backend is not updated yet

fallow crag
#

Okay, I'm back on my old account

covert sparrow
kindred crown
#

vod support should be going live today

tardy grotto
covert sparrow
kindred crown
#

works with a patching mechanism, so it doesnt benefit from the same giga performance as live chat but dont think that matters as much

patent pewter
#

Are the paints and personal emotes working again? Bruhge

kindred crown
#

they've been working

patent pewter
forest flame
#

Yo emote completion is not working for me yo

kindred crown
forest flame
#

thanks c:

olive kettle
#

most of the time when i am replying to someone and try to search for an emote by typing : the seventv-container part when expecting elements just disapears as if something causes it to delete itself

kindred crown
#

update to beta 9.1

#

this is not an issue anymore

patent pewter
#

sorry to bother you guys, i still don't see my own paint or badge and personal emotes are gone too UHM what should i do ?

kindred crown
#

make sure you're actually typing via the extension and not another client like chatterino

#

also press enter , dont use the chat button

patent pewter
#

ok, i used the chat button i'll try the enter lookUp

#

won't work, no paint no badge no personal emotes and autocompletion only completes basic emotes FeelsBadMan

versed temple
#

also are you having multiple tabs opened?

patent pewter
#

yes

#

2

kindred crown
#

youre probably cyberfucked between the update to 9.1

versed temple
#

yeah multiple tabs has issue with showing things in extension

kindred crown
#

restart your browser

patent pewter
#

will do

kindred crown
versed temple
#

yesterday i had multiple windows of twitch side by side with just beta i think
and only 1 of the window has emotes
i will try to see if i can reproduce it and record

patent pewter
#

i restarted. no help. i saw this happening already 6am EU time. uninstalled the extension, restarted didn't help. it looks like it's not connected to 7tv properly at all Bruhge

kindred crown
#

do you see channel emote updates

patent pewter
#

what are those ? i can send some screenshots.

kindred crown
#

if you dont see this it means youre not connected to the eventapi

patent pewter
#

here. no paint no badge no personal emotes. tried everything.

patent pewter
#

ok i refreshed several times my browser page. got back everything but autocompletion still won't autocomplete just anything. FeelsBadMan

versed temple
patent pewter
#

i have 9.1 i guess lookUp

versed temple
patent pewter
#

lemme check that out.

#

i should be able to type emotes in the "send messages" box without using colon right ? with : it only shows emojis.

#

*using tab.

covert sparrow
#

pretty sure the most recent twitch update bricked a lot of stuff Lime

patent pewter
#

oh, that could take a while to fix Bruhge

cedar forge
#

3.0.0.9100 beta (9.1) still not working the autocomplete emoticon with TAB... LULE only twitch ones works with auto

patent pewter
hollow trellis
#

for some reason after some time the autocompletion (both tab and colon) broke and now it only autocompletes personal emotes

sacred pike
#

twitch devs making changes specifically to give Anatole more work

covert sparrow
fallow crag
cedar forge
hollow trellis
#

hyru is a trial mod?

#

holy

ebon wing
#

MUGA hyru mod

drifting wharf
#

Who are the mad men that pushed a beta update on a fucking Saturday? AINTNOWAY

burnt quail
drifting wharf
#

Anatole. homieHug

barren linden
#

beta login and storing of prefs not working for me in the latest beta.....the "emoji" feature should be off by default. really don't need those ugly things coming up before the emojis we actualy pay subs for ._.

sacred pike
sacred pike
#

very noticeable increase in speed with the chat loading! HACKERMANS I like it!

short anchor
#

NOOOO my colon 7tv emotes

barren linden
#

just happened to be a fresh firefox install on a fresh windows install KEK

#

it doesn't even keept he prefs after an F5

#

oh now it's working suddenly....idk

sacred pike
#

thats weird FeelsDankerMan well fuck it dont ask questions and maybe it will forget to act up again Giggle

#

just windows things

covert sparrow
kindred crown
#

Btw i released beta 9.2 which fixes all the autocomplete issues

#

vod support and spam coming in beta 10, closing out the Parity milestone

#

then the next week will be dedicated to fixing any outstanding problems, improving compat, making the update process smoother (and faster), creating an onboarding experience and adding hints to point users in the correct places

narrow wind
#

PagBounce

sacred pike
#

let's go!

patent pewter
cedar forge
kindred crown
#

vod support is coming in beta 10

#

make sure your version is 3.0.0.9200

cedar forge
kindred crown
#

might be inconsistent perhaps

#

try refreshing

drifting wharf
#

I still have issues with Colon-completion just stops working. A refresh usually fixes it. If not, another refresh will. Then it works for a couple hours until it stops again. qneIdk

cedar forge
kindred crown
#

i'll have another look in beta 10

#

anything to do with twitch's input box is complete aids btw

#

hence why this breaks fairly often

#

we will actually replace the input box too eventually

cedar forge
#

@kindred crown No problem, dont worry im just testing and reporting. keep up the good work FeelsOkayMan

kindred crown
drifting wharf
versed temple
#

doubled personal emotes

kindred crown
#

i can see autocomplete works inconsistently, not sure if its a twitch change or not, will investigate tomorrow

kindred crown
versed temple
#

just 7tv beta, no other addons

#

i can try refresh and see if it goes away

#

even a hard refresh didnt fix ti

#

now the personal emotes are not showing up
What i did:
1) tried to look at the console, reloaded, and some how personal emotes are disappeared as shown
2) then tried to remove and reinstall, issue still persist

#

nvm

#

i typed in chat and it shows up now

tardy grotto
#

Colon emote completion doesn't work for me and only shows the generic emojis.
Tab completion doesn't work at all for me

#

and im running 9.2

wraith bay
nimble delta
forest flame
#

emote completion PepeHands

carmine imp
#

It's all working great

covert sparrow
#

Wide emotes have a stretched preview Hmm

gleaming pagoda
#

@sacred pike they added it, i can die peacefully now ;)

wraith bay
#

i will die happy if they add a option to remove mod icons on yourself , streamer , other mods Prayeg

covert sparrow
lapis wedge
short anchor
#

anatole stop breaking colons peepoCryAlot

#

and tab complete peepoCryAlot

#

i can't be expected to remember emote names or go to the menu! like some kind of peasant

wind sapphire
#

it's twitch breaking it tbf

short anchor
#

anatole patch it faster peepoCryAlot

wheat tangle
#

Where is the slider mod? It only appears in my messages

lapis wedge
#

weird, now paints and 7tv badge also aren't working for me now with 9.2.

I can see other users paint/badge, but not my own.

#

If I swap back to V2 it shows

frank rapids
lapis wedge
#

it finally loaded after ~8-10 F5 over the course of maybe 3 hours LULE

grizzled dust
#

Do people not using beta see personal emotes from people using beta?

covert sparrow
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no

grizzled dust
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ty 🙂 literally just saw the message on the site, so now I feel dumb KEKW

patent pewter
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7tv emotes sent from chatterino started to show up as text only in the new extension today. Bruheg

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oops. just needed a refresh again. Emotes are back. Okayeg 👍

pearl dragon
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I've noticed that on the Beta versions, I am seeing blocked users messages'.
Is there any option in the settings to get rid of these messages?

warm zenith
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can i just say that i want 7tv beta to be exactly the same as before but only with the new interface for emotes added, cus every other thing seems to be slightly broken, whenever i want to type a certain emote the suggestions for an emote goes up all the way and the first emote gets covered by the pinned messages or any big messages highlighted at the top of the chat, i dont see people highlighted messages when people @ me and i dont see my name highlighted as before, and there are a few more things that are different in beta and not work properly... i know it's beta but i was hoping for them to make it better than before. But I'll be patient KKonaSmile

tiny yacht
river oyster
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PAGMANDANCEBUTFAST vod chat, only reason i still use FFZ

unique grail
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i just want the ux to improve

kindred crown
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also would like to know what other things are different / not work properly

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the beta will likely never "be exactly the same as before" as "before" is not something we aspire our new extension to be

warm zenith
kindred crown
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i'm confused, do you mean you don't want mention highlights?

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if so then you could make a suggestion to add a setting for it, seems like a trivial thing to be added

warm zenith
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without beta im getting the message highlighted when i get pinged, on beta i dont

kindred crown
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well it's red not yellow

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but there is a highlight for mentions

gentle ridge
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How come the order at which emote tab completions show got changed? Was this on purpose?

for example, tabbing the letters "om" before gave the results "OMEGADANCEBUTFAST" > "OMEGALUL" > "OMEGALULiguess"
nows its doing "OMEGALULiguess" > "OMEGALUL" > "OMEGADANCEBUTFAST"

kindred crown
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looks like this

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in the future it's planned to allow customizing highlights though

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so if you want it to be yellow instead of red that'll eventually be a thing

kindred crown
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the sorting now uses some priority parameters to go by personal > third party > twitch > emoji

gentle ridge
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Ahh got it

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Its not a big deal its just throwing off my muscle memory when tabbing LULE

warm zenith
kindred crown
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well when did you last use the beta LULE

warm zenith
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a few days ago

kindred crown
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it's being updated every day

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yeah probably missed out on like 4 patches then

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beta 10 just went out

warm zenith
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fair enough, i'll make sure to try it again then

wind sapphire
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middle button scroll still doesnt work NOODANCEBUTFAST

cursive plover
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Not sure if this was reported but been seeing this for a while now- whenever I make a clip, the patch notes always appear on the clip creation page

cedar forge
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Can confirm beta 10 fixed autocomplete emotes and finally emotes in VODs even changing channel, no issues so far PagMan

wheat tangle
north ingot
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wtf does "delete message" in VOD chat do? I don't want to test it monkaS

true flower
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FeelsDankMan deletes a message

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the same it does in live chat

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you can also ban someone

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from vod chat

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and it'll delete all their messages in vods

fluid elm
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Hello. Where can I write about partnership with 7tv?

ocean void
narrow wind
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It's just a poor translation.

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The correct translation would be "Bricked user"

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as in "this user is bricked up fr"

covert sparrow
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fr fr no cap

ocean void
ocean void
narrow wind
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yes

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It's a helpful warning tbh

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Anatole went above and beyond on this extension

north ingot
kindred swan
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I haven't yet fully started to use the extension but one feature I was wondering if it is there / will be added is auto claiming twitch drops?

gentle ridge
subtle leaf
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true

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i just read auto claim

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and didnt read the rest

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but you know

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basically the same thing

gentle ridge
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Its not the same thing

kindred swan
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Definitely not the same thing xD but thanks

patent pewter
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i'm disconnected again can't see my own paint or badge or personal emotes Okayeg

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tried refreshing, typing in the chat, restarting the browser but no help

jovial zenith
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same

patent pewter
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thanks for letting me know. I guess it will start working after a while. This is not the first time it happens. Susge and there's nothing i can do about it