off tha perc
#developers
sullen edge
manic torrent
plush kayak
manic torrent
mods kill this man
whole gale
Ive developed like an on stream game for a certain streamer and i'd like to use name paints to display the names in said game is there any api endpoint i can use to gather information about the paint so far ive only been able to find the paint id
or is there a paints.json
solid gale
Ive developed like an on stream game for a certain streamer and i'd like to use ...
drippy cat 
whole gale
drippy cat <:PagMan:1203845070705528832>
Hiii
I’m trying to add paints to names on the cones
But cant find alot of documentation xdd
Oh wait theres a v4 api?
whole gale
ive firgured it out so far
another question
I can pass my own bearer token but does it expire
quick ibex
Normal bearer tokens expire after 30 days, but you can request a persistent session token if you want to use it for applications
whole gale
Normal bearer tokens expire after 30 days, but you can request a persistent sess...
Who / where to I ask for a persistent token ? FTK has said persistent tokens weren't given out anymore until a better system was to be implemented
If I could get a token that would be awesome 
quick ibex
If I could get a token that would be awesome <:Smile:1339186744440127518>
Sent you a dm
whole gale
paper token
more font weight = more paint visible
whole gale
i did for readability lmao https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1328171545629294602/1341126639089615041/image.png?ex=67b4dd03&is=67b38b83&hm=92513a51268132047d4dc7ebc9769da64c864a3c5dad74531212da6c53004354&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
solid gale
please increase the font weight 🙏
make the text smaller instead
make it completely unreadable
stuck oasis
hide those ugly paints
plush kayak
@swift bough did you close your pr due to inactivity?
swift bough
patent wing
its not like they're gonna release every api everyone wants on day one
patent wing
they probably only started mid last year
patent wing
twitch can't create a pin message api for more than 2 years
manic torrent
True
manic torrent
topaz crown
7tv sponsored kick api docs 
patent wing
how does the extension even do that
topaz crown
no idea but its pretty 
patent wing
theres no specific id, data attribute or anything on the element, there's no way the extension is selecting that element with a specific class name
oh wait the extension probably just selects any nav element on the page 😭
patent wing
manic torrent
patent wing
ah yes 7tv
manic torrent
s00n
rotund pivot
Kick docs before 7tv docs
zinc aspen
lol
plush kayak
happy day today
rancid tulip
Mods fix the 7tv crash
manic torrent
Another one
rotund aspen
I'm slowly becoming rich 
plush kayak
sullen edge
im richly becoming slow
plush kayak
visual wedge
candid grove
winter dew
are devs aware of this issue? https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/issues/216
mortal fossilBOT
paauull, reminder(s) from: yourself - 🪤 (1y, 177d ago)
lapis tulip
kind of a nuisance to being able to add emotes with special characters and äöü, and then not being able to rename them because of the emote validator
wide frigate
shy parrot
hi nerds
plush kayak
lunar ether
arctic torrent
Is this bugged for others too? The mod version of the viewer card doesn't show chat history like native twitch one does
rigid narwhal
Is this bugged for others too? The mod version of the viewer card doesn't show c...
yes, devs are currently investigating the problem
arctic torrent
yes, devs are currently investigating the problem
was it discussed in an issue or somewhere here in disc? Curious to see that discussion if so
rigid narwhal
discussion about the cause and fixes is happening in a separate, hidden channel, but you can look at this thread here to get updates on when there is a fix available https://discord.com/channels/817075418054000661/1344818595955212288
arctic torrent
Ok thanks
narrow ferry
Hi is there any docs for the 7tv api. I remember there was a page with like the various endpoints but it doesn’t seem to exist anymore. Specifically I want to query the api by 7tv username to get emote set data of that user. I have done this before a few years ago but forgot
topaz crown
Hi is there any docs for the 7tv api. I remember there was a page with like the ...
theres not a way to query by username, but you can query by twitch or 7tv ids with the gql api
swift bough
bro said allat but didnt link the thing https://7tv.io/v4/gql/playground
@narrow ferry
winged pecan
huge W
swift bough
I clicked it twice and got $100 
stuck oasis
dude
you guys really need to get this shit under control
i have 2 channels with notifs here and its dev and translations and i literally only get scam messages anymore
maybe consider spending some money on auto moderation instead of a 10k price pool for a csgo tournament which has nothing to do with the site and is only used to get people to spend money on paints and badges
🤜 🔔
plush kayak
maybe consider spending some money on auto moderation instead of a 10k price poo...
they have a point ... 
fast bear
maybe consider spending some money on auto moderation instead of a 10k price poo...
I don't think you realise that we put resources into multiple things. the events team and the dev team are seperate... The dev team that made the pickems stuff wasn't even our own. They both get enough money to do their jobs, it's just that development is a longer process. Giving a 10k prize pool is literally unrelated to auto moderation in every aspect. We're actively working on improving the site, extension and auto mod stuff. Can't have anything good without complainers 
forest swift
mods also can't be here 24/7, if you see something like that ping me and i will take care of it
stuck oasis
i do realize you guys put resources into multiple things and i get that discord bot prevention isn't the main issue 7tv faces right now (slow cdn for weeks now lol) but i feel like there is a massive lack of competence when it comes to deciding what resources work on. For example 7tv poses itself as an emote platform yet the last really new feature regarding emotes was years ago aside from v4 rework. Features pushed by devs nowadays are minor "bug fixes" that partly remove features like the removal of a lot of characters in emote(set) names or things like google tracking which inserted cookies without asking people for permission which is illegal in the eu. the only real feature the last 2 months was the kick integration which as far as i can tell was +163 -29 lines (https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/commit/74c2b58b10a43ecb98b53fc64990dc83c89e04b3 correct me if i oversaw a commit that added actual code to this aside from this one) compared to the +2772 -104 lines the pickems stuff was as far as i can tell made by 2 admins and 1 dev of yours so i dont really understand what your argument is. If i understand correctly the pickems website was not yours, but you still invested by far the majority of lines (publicly) written by your devs to the pickems stuff. (https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/pull/227). But the idea 7tv has of what product they want to be is clearly not an emote platform. You had the stage of nymns new years and the feature you anounced was a paint shop, which directly profits 7tv. Any event 7tv participated in or created (execpt nnys) in the last few months only provided paints or badges to the user. (Domos, Minecraft, XMAS gifting, csgo, valentines). No special emotes, emote sets, emote slots or whatever. This is not an emote platform anymore the whole thing is about getting people to buy, win, or sub for cosmetics, and you cant have anything good if you dont release good products for your users not because of complainers
better bot prevention would be cool too tho :D
plush kayak
i do realize you guys put resources into multiple things and i get that discord ...
I agree with you. it feels like everything about the actual platform is just stale rn. like there's events and stuff but besides the kick integration there have not really been any changes. I think it's partly because lennart was kinda carrying but now he's gone. there's a bunch of things that could and should be changed about the website but nobody's working on it. the extension too. everything just takes so long, always.
sounds a bit corny but 7tv hasn't been the same since troy and lennart left 
and is the slow cdn thing still an issue?
fast bear
yeah it's slow because Russia cut internet services between our servers and the rest of Europe after they left
fast bear
i do realize you guys put resources into multiple things and i get that discord ...
the cosmetics are literally 10 mins of code. Our designers create a paint and all our Devs do is apply it to accounts. The fact that you are saying our focus has been on monetary gain when that's literally 0.1% of dev resources is insane. Paint shop again isn't something we're working on now because we're working on.... Improving the infrastructure and site. Hence it's removal. Of course you don't see behind the scenes so you can't make an accurate assessment of the dev work but if you're this uneducated that you think applying paints over shadows actual Dev work maybe reconsider making comments in the future 
jagged lava
stuck oasis
I never said applying paints overshadows actual dev work. I literally said that my point applies only to dev work done that is publicly available in your source-available repository of an source-available project. Please don't strohmann me (I also never said that your (2? 😭 which one of them is doing this shit for free man) devs aren't getting paid enough as you said in your message before btw). What i am saying about the paint shop is, that for an self proclaimed emote platform, it is quite sad to see the obvious lack of interest in providing features for and/or emotes itself when there are very good opportunities to do so. That lack of interest in emotes especially shows at stuff like the valentines event where cosmetics are just sold basically.
But considering the other 99.9% of dev resources are currently going into features not for pure monetary gain and we just recieved a 2700 line pr for the pickems shit im hyped to see what the 2.7 million lines (or similar work load aside from just coding of course) of other features will be 🥳
Also wanna take back the hate on the minecraft event, it was nice that half of that revenue was donated to charity, but i think my point still stands.
sullen edge
I hope you guys realize that the CDN issues are not being ignored, there is just no easy fix and it's not even about the money
Hosting a tournament is not mutually exclusive with the fact that it's being worked on
We want CDN to be functioning properly as much as anyone else here or more
stuck oasis
its not really abt the tournament i heard from people that watched it that it was well organized and hosted and i realize its sponsored. it was a mocking remark i made because its just funny that all the news channel is abt nowadays are events where 7tv gains money from (probably)
sullen edge
It's just difficult to give an update on something like this, so it might give the wrong impression as if it's not the highest priority at the moment
stuck oasis
but not going to engage in this conversation further, i think i've made my point clear
sullen edge
We could sit idle while waiting for the resources we need to fix the CDN or we could do other things in the meantime anyway, latter option seems better, it doesn't slow down or affect the CDN fix in any way
rugged perch
If you want to speak about 7TV work being wasted/spent more on events and paints and badges more than actual site features and important fixes. EVERYTHING is being considered. But not all of it is public. So CDN is being fixed ASAP, Site is being worked and being fixed from every corner, AND the backend is getting more queries, API fixes and more stabliltiy fixes. 7TV isn't prioritizing events and money winning situations. It's just that those ARE public to everyone. unlike the rest. And you can't expect in 1-2 months to see a HUGE change after new devs join. New devs are looking for bugs/solutions/quirks to fix everything. It isn't an easy thing for sure ( You can try it and see how it goes ). EVEN the issues on the github are being fixed currently. It's just that it isn't a fast and instant fix. When you think of the fixes that are people mostly complaining on. These can take LONG times ( hence why old devs didn't even bother fixing them ) Example the extention lag and website quirks. If they were very easy to fix. old devs could've just fixed them already. But they take some time to fix.
So when someone says
there is a massive lack of competence when it comes to deciding what resources work on
It's not about the massive lack. It's about the resource, time, and effort. you cant just fix an extention that literally needs a full re-write because of the new manifest. You see how massive the code of the extention is? So it does need resource on finding best solutions. Time for actually re-writing every single feature WITH testing. And effort to make it as stable and as good as possible.
I hope this makes more sense to anyone who's concerned about 7TV prioritizing money plotting rather than fixes and development. Think of it as ( Let's make a frame of a tv to sell ) VS ( Let's make/fix a full TV )
paper token
it's also a little funny to me to imagine a world where someone would say "You need to spend more money on servers and hire more devs" (both expensive) while also saying "you should stop doing the things that actually make money in the meantime."
I know no one was seriously trying to say that though.
topaz crown
yo when is the API website coming back
https://7tv.io/v4/gql/playground you can use this for now 
swift bough
https://7tv.io/v4/gql/playground you can use this for now <:Smile:10497362230333...
bro is stealing my whole flow, word for word, bar for bar
topaz crown
swift bough
lapis tulip
If you want to speak about 7TV work being wasted/spent more on events and paints...
if we're talking about api-fixes, when can we expect a consistent api regarding emote name handling?
currently, in your v4 gql, there is inconsistent behaviour when dealing with special characters (&, äöü, etc) in emote names.
depending on the action used, you validate them differently (or when adding an emote, there's no validation at all)
specifically:
adding an emote with special chars works:
mutation {
emoteSets {
emoteSet(id: "01JNR5CFDWVFC2XA468WWJBMS3") {
addEmote(id: {emoteId: "01GZ2RA96G000FS44VS4P13CD7", alias: "&mine"}) {
id
}
}
}
}
renaming an emote with special chars to a name without special chars works:
mutation {
emoteSets {
emoteSet(id: "01JNR5CFDWVFC2XA468WWJBMS3") {
updateEmoteAlias(id: {emoteId: "01GZ2RA96G000FS44VS4P13CD7", alias: "&mine"} alias: "test") {
id
}
}
}
}
renaming an emote to include special characters fails:
mutation {
emoteSets {
emoteSet(id: "01JNR5CFDWVFC2XA468WWJBMS3") {
updateEmoteAlias(id: {emoteId: "01GZ2RA96G000FS44VS4P13CD7", alias: "test"} alias: "&mine2") {
id
}
}
}
}
error: message: 'Failed to parse "String": invalid emote name'
this issue has existed since the release of v4. a github issue was opened a month ago (https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/issues/216), and it has been raised in this channel before - without any response.
rugged perch
if we're talking about api-fixes, when can we expect a consistent api regarding ...
Yep this is included 
rugged perch
if we're talking about api-fixes, when can we expect a consistent api regarding ...
I mean currnelty if you test. alias character length is unlimited, And you can legit make an alias of empty space
rugged perch
lapis tulip
I mean currnelty if you test. alias character length is unlimited, And you can l...
i know, there is no validation on emote-names when adding 
rugged perch
i know, there is no validation on emote-names when adding <:nise:111318160679921...
Yea which is being considered. Also creepycode the goat made a fix for it a while ago. Just not merged yet. Devs will probably merge it
rugged perch
rugged perch
🤏
solid gale
fading isle
lapis tulip
rugged perch
but Also I just wanna tell you. You said that pickems got lots of comits +2772 -104 .
This is 1 branch of the fixes we're doing in the background
So we are cooking for sure 
Just slowly because it's Ramadan 
stuck oasis
never said it's a lot of code, just compared to other public changes. Which repository is this? 
i was under the impression 7tv was source available and development was public
always need a source available
〽️
rugged perch
Oh no this is like for me on my repo 
plush kayak
This is 1 branch of the fixes we're doing in the background
I don't understand why it has to be in the background
why can't a fix be pushed when it's fixed
why does it have to be piled up and then released all at once
it just doesn't make sense to me esp when they're pretty big annoyances
rugged perch
It doesn't have to be.
I just me personally chose to do it locally then when I'm done I do a branch and push it there
stuck oasis
that seems like very bad practice but ok 
rugged perch
bad habit of me and being fixed for sure
lapis tulip
so you commit and deploy everything from SevenTV-Private and once everything is finished/after the events you commit it to the public repo?
stuck oasis
winged pecan
after reading all of this, reflecting on mzntori's opinion;
let's acknowledge the fact that 7TV promoted itself for at least a year or so as a 3rd party emote extension for three platforms when in fact only one platform worked in that timeframe. at least Kick has OAuth now, even though account linking was indeed possible without it ~2 years ago using a workaround. the extension for Kick is barebones and it barely works anyway. it was broken for YouTube since ages. but who cares about Kick and YouTube anyway when you have Twitch, right?
also the Chrome extension is on the verge of being disabled globally due to Manifest V3 enforcement, uBlock Origin was nuked recently, so it can happen anytime. Google pushed for Manifest V3 compliance for a year or so, it's a matter of not loading the content script remotely and having Google scrutinize the code with each update (boo), not really a matter of a "full rewrite", though that's probably a good idea anyway considering the backend developments and the V4 API – the one with zero developer docs documenting it for outsiders
and emote search on the website is almost useless. fortunately however, people can pay for a couple new namepaints each month to feel unique, so the masses have their (c)opium at least 
swift bough
cdn when emotes 
cdn when shitfuck 123 namepaint 
rotund pivot
Paints only fail if they have an image instead of a gradient
low copper
after reading all of this, reflecting on mzntori's opinion;
let's acknowledge t...
improved emote searching coming next year 💪🏼 
low copper
I don't think you realise that we put resources into multiple things. the events...
I feel like the complaints are very valid
maybe worth making another announcement or something
sullen edge
maybe worth making another announcement or something
announcement about complaints?
stuck oasis
announcement about complaints?
announcement about the cdn not working and why and that its being worked on and that its kind of hard to fix 
i mean you clearly dont care about talking abt it in here so why not tell people whats going on
stuck oasis
I agree with you. it feels like everything about the actual platform is just sta...
or announce that when people voice their opinion/critique in a respectful way, your CEO makes fun of them using discord reactions 
extremely serious
iron monolith
hello cool people
where can I find the docs for the api (specifically the emote fetching)
topaz crown
https://7tv.io/v3/docs
maybe these links could get pinned here
since it gets asked so much
rotund aspen
true, I can't do that tho
topaz crown
somebody do it
topaz crown
7TV API Documentation Resources
Official API Documentation (v3)
Check out the documentation for 7TV REST API v3:
https://7tv.io/v3/docs
GitHub Repository
Browse the source code, report issues, or contribute to the project:
https://github.com/seventv/seventv
GraphQL Playground (v3)
Experiment with the GraphQL API using the interactive playground:
https://7tv.io/v3/gql/playground
GraphQL Playground (v4)
Experiment with the GraphQL API using the interactive playground:
https://7tv.io/v4/gql/playground
Event API Documentation
For details on implementing the Event API, refer to the README in the repository:
https://github.com/SevenTV/EventAPI/blob/dev/README.MD
topaz crown
sudden gust
# 7TV API Documentation Resources
## Official API Documentation (v3)
Check out ...
And the v3 gql api playground: https://7tv.io/v3/gql/playground
plush kayak
or announce that when people voice their opinion/critique in a respectful way, y...
nod
rotund pivot
@sullen edge
stuck oasis
anson
plush kayak
@sullen edge
cyan nest
@sullen edge
rotund aspen
yeah they expire, you can ask for a persistent one if you need it for your app
rotund aspen
DM @quick ibex
south sundial
waxen sleet
@sudden gust Where does the config for the image processor go ? I can't find where it should go
mortal fossilBOT
ilianokokoro is no longer AFK: Probably playing Marvel Rivals (21h, 28m ago)
sudden gust
<@285406838348972042> Where does the config for the image processor go ? I can't...
anywhere, iirc you can pass it using the --config cli argument
waxen sleet
anywhere, iirc you can pass it using the `--config` cli argument
Ah ok. Like in the dockerfile ?
vocal acorn
is 7tv down right now?
ionic yarrow
yes
topaz crown
seems to be the case
swift bough
@rugged perch change default portuguese to brazilian portuguese (the real portuguese) 
the portuguese have arrived 
mods
rugged perch
<@817064857769082890> change default portuguese to brazilian portuguese (the rea...
I added both
pt and pt-br
fierce idol
i requested a language ages ago, is there a chance it might be added any time soon?
one day
raven glade
are there any european portuguese doing translations? I peeked at the pt-pt translation and it's all Brazilian
sounds good. I'm native from Portugal so I'll provide help
valid holly
I participated in the French translation and corrected mistakes 
waxen sleet
Si tu regarde dans #i18n on avait dit que emotes c'est masculin
distant phoenix
add swiss german to the translation page 
valid holly
Si tu regarde dans <#915526437895823370> on avait dit que emotes c'est masculin
Mince j'avais pas vu le point sur les emotes :(
valid holly
après mec ça fait quand même bizzare de dire "un emote" ça serait plus "une emote" pour le mot "une émoticône" qui est un nom féminin dans le dico français
@waxen sleet
puis une emote exprime UNE emotion fin ça me parait plus logique que ce soit féminin
Et surtout le "emotes globaux" ça fait vraiment pas Français, après tu es québécois donc je ne sais pas comment vous dites la bas mais en Français (France) on dit Emotes globales
waxen sleet
Et surtout le "emotes globaux" ça fait vraiment pas Français, après tu es québéc...
Ouin ben comme j'ai dit dans l'autre channel, c'est très subjectif et dans ma tête c'était un emote comme un emoji
Le modo qui va s'occuper de confirmer les traductions va choisir
valid holly
Ouin ben comme j'ai dit dans l'autre channel, c'est très subjectif et dans ma tê...
a voir
shy epoch
when will I get 7tv translator badge? if I will receive one
rotund aspen
when will I get 7tv translator badge? if I will receive one
badges will be given once the language is proofread
rugged perch
It won't be anytime soon. I'm still trying to put all the missing strings
shy epoch
badges will be given once the language is proofread
okk
valid holly
badges will be given once the language is proofread
Is there a deadline for translations ?
valid holly
delicate mica
shell gazelle
lol
stuck oasis
lapis tulip
fierce idol
rugged perch
Ok then I'll probably work on this after I'm done with admin tools and converting all 7tv website to i18n.
waxen sleet
youll be fine, rust is really easy to read
Surely
swift bough
is there even a rest api for v4 for you to document
lapis tulip
there's like one endpoint to document for rest
stuck oasis
i mena honestly i was joking tbh, if anything some kind of tutorial would be most relevant 
rugged perch
One of my long term plans is to make the API have proper endpoints instead of just anyone using GQL
But I'm still learning Rust from every corner. So that'll take some time
rugged perch
Well in that case maybe a small documentation about GQL 
ebon lichen
Well in that case maybe a small documentation about GQL <a:prePffttt:13321407720...
hey can you please help
i logged out of twitch and then logged back in
now all my paints and badges say none
rugged perch
Can you send me your profile link?
Maybe you are logged in a different twitch account? 
an Alt or something
ebon lichen
"Feikatron" - it was ofeik
ebon lichen
rugged perch
No problem. Lemme know if it doens't work 
ebon lichen
Now they are all back <:FeelsOkayMan:1069351099561152512>
thank you! appreciate your help M3
❤️
rugged perch
No problem
ebon lichen
No problem <:Okay:1068635818345889923>
is there any way to get special ones that can only be verified via codes? paints wise?
or is it just wait each month
rugged perch
I'm an admin. I have all of them. 
ebon lichen
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
ebon lichen
I'm an admin. I have all of them. <a:Pfftt:1267559557572333600>
accidentally put a cool one on mine
rugged perch
shell gazelle
fierce idol
who’s gonna tell him
shell gazelle
who’s gonna tell him
idk anything about chatterino 7tv and all these things
fierce idol
they are most likely spamming presence updates
and using third party scripts to change paints
shell gazelle
and using third party scripts to change paints
I have exactly the same one
fierce idol
mods
shell gazelle
I didn't run it 
fierce idol
shell gazelle
👼
swift bough
its not against the tos why is bro calling the mods
shell gazelle
fierce idol
we don’t encourage that kind of behavior around here…
swift bough
bro thinks hes on the mod team
rugged perch
stuck oasis
so you better watch your step
i know somone who also should have watched their step with their twotch account
rotund aspen
how do i get subscriber badge
by subscribing 
lapis tulip
vast panther
by subscribing <:erm:1317989515733762089>
i am
rotund aspen
link your profile
and we should probably move to #1204105649244479518, make a post there
shy epoch
why is it so difficult to get them approved
foggy bloom
paper token
control + enter does indeed seem to not retain the message
waxen sleet
The magickeys from vue stopped working so every shortcut that uses them is broken. They always return false.
import { useMagicKeys } from "@vueuse/core";
const { ctrl: isCtrl, shift: isShift } = useMagicKeys();
It's not that simple lol. What exactly do you mean.
zinc aspen
why wouldn't it be that simple
isnt there a way to capture input directly with js
like
waxen sleet
You would need to add an event listener
swift bough
just 
waxen sleet
I added a fix to one of my existing PR's
https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/pull/1122
proud current
<a:DinkDonk:889016538684850249> quick send is broken for me and a few other peop...
did you fix it?
zinc aspen
I added a fix to one of my existing PR's
https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/pu...
^this is a fix tho
stuck oasis
web chatters xd
sturdy berry
How can i install this fix in chrome?
rotund aspen
How can i install this fix in chrome?
wait until it's fixed officially, wouldn't recommend building extension yourself if you don't know how 
rugged perch
I added a fix to one of my existing PR's
https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/pu...
This hopefully will be merged tomorrow
plush kayak
You would need to add an event listener
yea which you can add on mount like it's definitely not a dumb idea or anything
but if smth like this already exists why even bother with it
tepid quail
So, I noticed that when I tried to update an old emote, its aspect ratio is no longer supported (it's around 4:1). Was this unintentional and will 4:1 emotes come back, or is this a new limit to 3:1 and 4:1 emotes are never coming back other than the existing old ones?
That and when uploading a gif emote, there tends to be a stutter, like one frame being added or holding on that one starting or ending frame, which is more noticeable in emotes that are face and only 2-4 frames. You don't see this while adding in the emote, only after it's fully uploaded and has its own page.
I am not sure if this was already fixed though, because I found a way to get around that issue as well by uploading a WebP file instead of a GIF file.
stuck oasis
whats the emote
im pretty sure the aspect ration can be 4:1 as long as the width doesn't go beyond i think 336p
its just gonna get padded into a 3:1 emote
tepid quail
here hold on, here's some images and the emote proper (first is the old upload, second is the attempt, third is the work around)
stuck oasis
better work around is to pad it with transparent pixels to 128x384
you ccan do that in ezgif with the extend canvas size button on the crop tool
tepid quail
I thought about that, but it also makes the over all pixel size smaller, which the users do not want either
but my main point was hoping 4:1 will stick around and not be phased out
brazen oyster
tepid quail
the old API just scaled it down to a cropped 3:1 emote
If that's true then why is the old emote pixel dimensions closer to 4:1 than 3:1? as shown in the first image with 384x92
stuck oasis
oh well yeah the actual files are actually that ration but afaik emotes being rendered properly shouldnt allow emotes wide than 3:1 atleast tahts how i assume the extension and also cahtterino does it
otherwise you would be able to have almost infinitely wide emote
well for what its worth in twitch chat
tepid quail
I am not too sure if that's the case, because there's a whole section of 4:1 sized emotes that worked fine before, 4:1 emotes are real and dont get shrunk or stretched out
I even opened some images in this 4:1 and their pixels still add up to a 4:1 size, so they're not being changed in any way to fit into 3:1
stuck oasis
thats not what i am saying send me the original emote link
tepid quail
sure, the user helped me load it in a while ago before I had a 7TV account active https://7tv.app/emotes/01H1FAW680000DHB41GW5674RY
stuck oasis
do you see how it is still locked to be 384p wide on chatterino and web chat
the line just gets smaller
tepid quail
hmm
stuck oasis
so it doesnt actually amtter if it is a 4:1 file
ifyou have a chat overlay that displays them differently then its a bugt with the chat overlay
and i assume it was a bug in the old api as well
or just a weird feature idk
tepid quail
still, it's odd that the original link still has the pixel ratio at 4:1 but now says that ratio isnt available anymore
got me all confused lol
open coyote
Heya not entirely sure if this is the right channel, but I wanted to know what the replacement for this API Endpoint would be in the newest api (I believe its v4):
https://api.7tv.app/v2/emotes/global
and also: https://api.7tv.app/v2/users/SomeChannel/emotes
rotund aspen
Heya not entirely sure if this is the right channel, but I wanted to know what t...
v4 doesn't really have rest endpoints rn. You can use v3 which will be:
7tv.io/v3/emote-sets/global
7tv.io./v3/users/PLATFORM/PLATFORMID, where PLATFORM can be TWITCH/DISCORD/KICK
or 7tv.io/v3/users/SEVENTVID
topaz crown
need some help
seems like its down for everyone, completely 
plush kayak
🤣
robust raptor
waiting till uptime 
chilly viper
someone forget to rotate certs or? The main site is up, but clicking through anywhere else throws errors
keen aspen
restive oak
cloudflare problems
idle holly
lone marsh
fierce idol
why my emot brake, pleas fix
surreal cosmos
freetings looking to add 7 tv to webview to any help or is this in development?
stuck oasis
why my emot brake, pleas fix
not liek you can use them
tawny glen
EMOTES STILL DONT WORK ON TWITCH
stuck oasis
YEAH NO SHIT
rugged perch
EMOTES STILL DONT WORK ON TWITCH
vapid flint
swift bough
postmortem blog post of the downtime
fluid osprey
forest swift
April fools
waxen sleet
south cairn
sweet cove
and a nasty comic sans
pure dagger
So I had https://7tv.io/v3/users/twitch/ID working for a few month, recently I saw, that for some channels this does not work anymore, there is no emote set returned.
On the website I can add and remove emotes.
Could this be related to the outage?
Works for my channel ID, but not for some others
stuck oasis
what id does it not work for for example out of interest
stuck oasis
seems like its just disabled
this is my profile
it also returns null
but i can activate an emote set
pure dagger
Gonna talk to the streamer then, thanks!
stuck oasis
wait actually after reenabling the set it still returns null
ah nvm now it updated
seems like it takes a while
wait no im stupid it still says null
pure dagger
It worked for that streamer, the link now returns emotes again
stuck oasis
oh ok 
pure dagger
Very weird, they did not deactivate them ...
pure dagger
BTW, thank you @stuck oasis
stuck oasis
np
forest star
inner drift
hello, I'm setting up a shitty script to run a bot using discord.js lib in js as well.
I've got a .json file with the specific emote set ID's and alphanumeric codes, which then suffixes the 4x.webp etc onto the array/variable in-memory since using the normal alphanumeric ID via the cdn/API endpoint returns a 400 response which is expected.
Is a 15second delay fine to retrieve and send the emote URLs if it requires downloading the json schema from the set? I'm just thinking going forward if there's other emote sets I wanna steal from, it can just yoink the .json into a local path as currently it expects the json schema from: emote_sets.rs #[utoipa::path( get, path = "/v3/emote-sets/{id}", tag = "emote-sets",
It can just use that path for the v3 API, grab the specific ID and then just dump it into a json file so it doesn't keep running the request over and over.
idk, just wanted to throw it out there. Don't wanna nuke the API. Smile
it is kinda fucked at the moment, it only posts a raw text string and not an actual slash command, but maybe this could work: https://discord.js.org/docs/packages/discord.js/14.18.0/SlashCommandBuilder:Class
ok, well. Was worth a shot I guess... pity.
I EARNED 100K
MY 100K
prisma dew
Hi guys, can I discuss custom script development for Twithc here?
violet flint
is there not a way to get the active emote set of a user thru the v4 api or am i missing something
ionic yarrow
if you're talking about gql, you can get the active set under style
users {
user(id: $id) {
style {
activeEmoteSet {
id
}
}
}
}
}```
gaunt magnet
Hello, Chatterino guy here again. I'm having users report issues loading 7TV emotes. This looks related to the CDN & IPv6. This issue seems to have more insight on the issue, https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/issues/209, is this something someone could look into?
Thank you! ❤️
vagrant lion
rigid narwhal
@quick ibex @rugged perch 
nocturne monolith
Hello, I have a quick question: is there an API endpoint I can call to get 7tv user id by the kick username?
I am sorry if this is a stupid question, but i can't find the docs anywhere
rugged perch
<@119484074820763650> <@817064857769082890> <a:DinkDonk:889016538684850249>
Excellify can handle this. He's more of the backend guy.
rugged perch
Hello, I have a quick question: is there an API endpoint I can call to get 7tv u...
Yes there is:
https://7tv.io/v3/users/kick/{KickUserId}
nocturne monolith
Yes there is:
`https://7tv.io/v3/users/kick/{KickUserId}`
i tried that https://7tv.io/v3/users/kick/3098244, but i get
{
"status": "Not Found",
"error_code": 12000,
"error": "user not found"
}
That means the user probably does not have Kick connected to his 7TV account
What's his/her username?
rugged perch
If I'm not mistaken. That ID that you passed is his chatroom Id. Meaning it won't exsist. His user id on the otherhand: https://7tv.io/v3/users/kick/3161141
nocturne monolith
If I'm not mistaken. That ID that you passed is his chatroom Id. Meaning it won'...
Oh my bad. When you send a request to https://kick.com/api/v2/channels/jskillza, you get both an ID and a user ID. I didn't notice that and had been using the wrong ID instead 
. thank you so much ❤️
rugged perch
No problem at all Usually the first ID that kick returns in that endpoints is chatroom id. which you can subscribe to, on their pusher to connect to the chat etc... Glad it worked
nocturne monolith
No problem at all <:FeelsOkayMan:1069351099561152512> Usually the first ID that ...
gaunt magnet
Hello, Chatterino guy here again. I'm having users report issues loading 7TV emo...
just checking in to see if there's any update on this or if there's anything I can do to help look into this
sullen edge
just checking in to see if there's any update on this or if there's anything I c...
if this is the same issue that has been going on for a while, it is under investigation but due to complexity no ETA available
gaunt magnet
copy that, some update in the issue would be great to link people to when they report issues with loading emotes 
thank you @sullen edge
sullen edge
most likely it's the same thing
there was also an issue with one of the nodes from time to time so it was kind of RNG based if you get load balanced onto that faulty node and then basically nothing would load - from what I know (but my knowledge of this is limited, not a dev 
) it was in some way related
rotund aspen
copy that, some update in the issue would be great to link people to when they r...
it should fix itself after a while (cdn instance will get reassigned) or they can try this: #1204118802984476682 message to manually change it
hushed siren
website is borked
rugged perch
Shouljd be back now
foggy hinge
It's still fucked
foggy hinge
whole uploads are fucked https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/issues/238
they are processed
the backend's just not receiving the signal
swift bough
+1 adding emotes to channels seems borked
I'm having the same experience: I add an emote to a channel through the website, the gql request returns no errors, the action shows up on the activity log and on the channel's emote list, but not on the website or chatterino
also the CDN is even slower tonight and I didn't even know that was possible ngl
rugged perch
whole uploads are fucked https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/issues/238
I'll forward this to backend devs rn
rugged perch
also the CDN is even slower tonight and I didn't even know that was possible ngl
Looks like EventAPI is bricked right now and servers as well. Notified backend devs in the hope it get's fixed asap
swift bough
glacial estuary
Looks like EventAPI is bricked right now and servers as well. Notified backend d...
Any update on this, still seeing emotes stuck in processing?
rugged perch
In that case they might need to be dropped manually
Lemme notify backend devs
Try re-uploading
See if that does the trick for now.
rugged perch
Re-uploading should work. and delete the old uploads
grave surge
i somehow got an infinite scroll bug and 7tv just kept loading emotes i did not interact with the page at all and this is the result (500mb loaded), this does not happen with (Chrome 134.0.6998.165) on the same system. Also was not able to recreate in (osx 15.4.1, Firefox 137.0.2). idk if this bug happens a lot but i thought i would let you. Maybe its a non issue and its just on my end(Linux Mint 22, Firefox 134.0.2 (64-bit)) @fast bear@rugged perch @quick ibex
distant phoenix
i somehow got an infinite scroll bug and 7tv just kept loading emotes i did not ...
charlotte is not a dev, i would ask ftk or excellify about dev related questions
signal orbit
i somehow got an infinite scroll bug and 7tv just kept loading emotes i did not ...
seems like there is an infinite scroll bug that was already pinged to devs related to firefox https://canary.discord.com/channels/817075418054000661/1362750188204064799
grave surge
seems like there is an infinite scroll bug that was already pinged to devs relat...
yep i also can't scroll but the scary part is that it loads all items (1013390) from that api endpoint api.7tv.app/v4/gql and requests them from the CDN, but yeah yall figure it out just wanted to lyk
forest swift
there's no need to ping people, devs and mods read through this channel
if something slips through you can repost it
rugged perch
i somehow got an infinite scroll bug and 7tv just kept loading emotes i did not ...
Where does this infinite scroll bug occur? Can you give me more in-depth detail on this?
On what webpage does this also happen?
rugged perch
@grave surge It should be fixed now Thanks to @quick ibex
swift bough
is 7tv just closed source now?
rotund aspen
is 7tv just closed source now?
it's not, https://github.com/seventv/seventv
swift bough
ok but there hasnt been a commit from the actual devs in over a month
solid gale
pretty sure this was talked about before, no?
and from what I remember theres a private repo where they push the commits and then theyre pushed to the public one
unless I misunderstood something?
rotund aspen
yeah I think it works like that now
swift bough
thats weird af but ok 
swift bough
makes me feel bad for the guy opening dozens of PRs on github who has to work on an outdated af version of the repo 
solid gale
waxen sleet
thats weird af but ok <a:Alsprite:1334280386301263892>
Also #developers message
grave surge
<@107316980356222976> It should be fixed now <:FeelsOkayMan:1069351099561152512>...
can confirm its fixed gj
swift bough
hearty flare
When I subscribe to a specific event like "emote_set.*", events that I'm not subscribed to will dispatch for some reason. Is this a bug?
topaz crown
When I subscribe to a specific event like "emote_set.*", events that I'm not sub...
Yes it’s a bug since v4. It will subscribe you to everything
iirc it’s only when you use a twitch channel id and not the set id
tight terrace
Weird little issue with the website if the window is squished together. Using firefox on win 11.
See? No help buttons or anything
waxen sleet
~~<https://kappa.lol/yk4rxk>~~
The help button is missing
rotund aspen
oh 
waxen sleet
lol
nova trench
rancid tulip
8tv is needed
solid gale
usually happens when I switch to another tab
didnt see that happen ever before, so thats kinda new I guess?
distant phoenix
yea this error has been coming up alot over the last ~2 days maybe
solid gale
@rugged perch Ill dm you when it happens again
rugged perch
<@817064857769082890> Ill dm you when it happens again
WW 🐐
sudden pine
Hello , waned to ask if V3 api will be supported later on?
lament hare
Hello, I have built a twitch bot (only supports twitch at the moment but could absolutely do the others) that tracks emote usage. Most used, least used stuff like this to help people decide what to remove when they have full emote slots.
I wanted to make a really quick picture to use for it's channel and whatnot and I am curious if it is okay to use the 7tv logo in it as.. well the entire point is to track 7tv platform emotes in a chat.
Sorry if this is not the correct space to ask this either, I would just rather be told no than to upset someone.
narrow timber
Anyone know how to list channel specific 7tv emotes through its api?
rugged perch
Anyone know how to list channel specific 7tv emotes through its api?
you can replace twitch with any of the supported platforms and the id with the right ID of the platform.
wild dock
Is it possible for the next releases of Chatterino7 to also have a version compiled with the CMake option CHATTERINO_PLUGINS=On?
rotund aspen
Is it possible for the next releases of Chatterino7 to also have a version compi...
@real sorrel
real sorrel
Ah I accidentally removed it in some merge commit
I’ll add it back later but we want to get rid of it before the next release anyway
Also funfact: c7 enabled it before c2 (probably the reason this is messed up right now)
distant phoenix
hi mods/devs, since we (help center people) havent gotten a channel yet, can someone explain this
rotund aspen
hi mods/devs, since we (help center people) havent gotten a channel yet, can som...
sometimes random people get cors error on 7tv.io, seems like the case here too
afaik this will fix itself after a while (https://canary.discord.com/channels/817075418054000661/1343386667263987793)
no idea why this happens
distant phoenix
i will tell them
real sorrel
I’ll add it back later but we want to get rid of it before the next release anyw...
Fixed it, waiting for CI so it should be in nightly soon
bold kettle
I'm looking at 7tv paints and I'm curious how the Staff Shine is handled? Cause it's not an opaque image since it's mostly transparent and just shines, am I supposed to show both the underlying normal twitch color and the shine above it? Is this the only paint like this? I've never seen any other paint be like that, the others are fullly opaque images. This is how it is in the gql:
{
"angle": 0,
"function": "URL",
"id": "01FQB6K5T0000BDD0YMN21KEXX",
"image_url": "https://cdn.7tv.app/paint/01FQB6K5T0000BDD0YMN21KEXX/layer/01JAMR1DWJ14HBYADTC6Q634WR/1x.webp",
"name": "Staff Shine",
"repeat": false,
"shadows": [],
"shape": "circle",
"stops": [],
"kind": "PAINT",
"color": null,
"text": null
},
The issue with showing the normal twitch color underneath is because css is stupid as fuck that would mean cloning the username and positioning it absolutely underneath, but with my application users can @ mention other users and it shows their paint in the @ and since linebreaks can be anywhere that doesn't work cause the absolutely placed one wouldn't break but the painted one would.
It also causes issues when names are truncated
nevermind I severly overthought that, I just set the background color to the username color and the paint shows above that 
solid gale
the store page sometimes barely loads
sometimes doesnt load at all
same goes for the cosmetics page
dont know about the other ones like emotes etc
just not something that should happen this often
and Im aware of the fact that the servers sometimes just do that, but this has been happening for the past days if not a few weeks at that point
distant phoenix
7tv not working again, what a shit fucking platform this is. The creators of 7tv must be fucking jerking off to hentai porn instead of fixing this shit fucking plugin. Actual brainded people i cant beliv it
solid gale
I mean yeah its another one of these reports but the fact that I can barely access the site at all for this long is quite odd non the less
the failed to fetch is appearing more frequently than ever
distant phoenix
somehow rn its working perfectly fine for me but yesterday evening and today basically all day its been pretty awful to use 
solid gale
I've been just checking if I got my 9 month badge which should've been given today if not yesterday, and I had to refresh at least 3 times just to access what I wanted to see
Surely tomorrow is the day
solid gale
today wasnt the day
paper token
I'm looking at 7tv paints and I'm curious how the Staff Shine is handled? Cause ...
I know you already figured it out, but I wanted to add that there are a few other paints that use transparency. However, I think staff shine might be the only animated paint with transparency.
gray patio
Hello, can someone tell me the correct API call to get the 7TV Paint of an user? It doesn't seem to be https://7tv.io/v3/cosmetics/paints/{paint_id} 🙂
And I remember that there was a good API documentation, but I can't find it anymore
rotund pivot
check pinned
gray patio
check pinned
thanks 🙂
rotund aspen
Hello, can someone tell me the correct API call to get the 7TV Paint of an user?...
the best way would be to do it via eventapi
but if you don't want to, I guess gql is the only option
vernal grove
anyone know why my emotes have been pending for about a week? :( im subscribed
stuck oasis
are you sure they arte pending and just havent been accepted
vernal grove
are you sure they arte pending and just havent been accepted
they're unlisted
that means they havent been approved yet right? so i cant upload any more
vernal grove
yeah when I try adding new ones it says "too many pending moderator requests" which i feel like means they aren't approved
these
rotund aspen
anyone know why my emotes have been pending for about a week? :( im subscribed
these emotes were uploaded 2 days ago, wdym a week
vernal grove
damn i guess im tripping then
but still they generally take about 6hrs at max to approve since ive been a subscriber
lapis tulip
is there a recommended way to get the global emote set using v4?
i'm not too fond of using the hard-coded id since it might change for halloween or christmas?
to my knowledge there's no such thing as in v3 https://7tv.io/v3/emote-sets/global ?
there is an implemented kind in v4 emote-sets, which could have type global but the current global emote-set is of kind normal so that's useless too
stuck oasis
i think this was asked here before and the conclusion was that you should probably just use the v3 endpoint
lapis tulip
plain orbit
what is the payload for websocket emote activity? like subscribing to a channel
topaz crown
what is the payload for websocket emote activity? like subscribing to a channel
either { type: 'emote_set.*', condition: { object_id: '01GNRGBX9G000EM7Q5KTKE4R0D' } }for individual things like updates for a single emote set emote_set.*
or { type: 'entitlement.*', condition: { platform: 'TWITCH', ctx: 'channel', id: '186352304' } } for channel specific events
plain orbit
and according to docs it's wss://events.7tv.io/v3 ?
solid gale
and according to docs it's wss://events.7tv.io/v3 ?
yes
plain orbit
okay thanks 
plain orbit
what is the endpoint and data for adding an emote to an emote set? I've tried a few things
plain orbit
I got it working :)
whole gale
is there a reason when i fetch an emote from a xcertain users emote list the cdn link it returns 404's https://imgur.com/ZOsnx8A
found it
plain orbit
is it possible on emote added to emote-set to get the alias set if it differs from the name?
oh nvm
I was looking at the wrong data
foggy hinge
whole uploads are fucked https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/issues/238
https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/issues/238#issuecomment-2860630944 @rugged perch this bug's back.
No emotes can be uploaded at the moment.
quiet escarp
i keep getting this error when i try to sign on 7tv in twitch status":"Bad Request","error_code":10000,"error":"Failed to deserialize query string"}
pearl ore
Did the extension break for anyone else? 
Is bro good? How is the IndexedDB version too new? 
(extension v3.0.9)
Yeah, this bug again it seems like similar effect to this bug https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/issues/368
But not in private browsing...
soft mesa
Did the extension break for anyone else? <:FeelsDankMan:893952203742670899> Is b...
extension's bucket's access rules are broken, you just can't access it (and your extension also can't)
$ curl --head https://extension.7tv.gg/manifest.json
HTTP/2 403
date: Thu, 08 May 2025 00:25:08 GMT
Ahh, the RKN blocks strike again I guess. Need to update my proxy filters... Thanks!
No wait, is it broken for everyone?
I didn't think for a second lol
soft mesa
Ahh, the RKN blocks strike again I guess. Need to update my proxy filters... Tha...
why do you think that it's RKN? it's broken on cloudflare side
pearl ore
why do you think that it's RKN? it's broken on cloudflare side
I thought 7tv.gg looked like a new domain to me
So uhhh, what do?
soft mesa
So uhhh, what do?
wait until it's fixed
pearl ore
extension's bucket's access rules are broken, you just can't access it (and your...
So wait, someone in 7tv fucked up the ACL on R2? Are they gonna fix it? It should be like a couple clicks, no?
Maybe I need more sleep, but this seems like barely a problem
Also, me when no incident on status.7tv.app
soft mesa
So wait, someone in 7tv fucked up the ACL on R2? <:dies:913572017578573854> Are ...
So wait, someone in 7tv fucked up the ACL on R2?
they are
Are they gonna fix it?
i dunno, just revealed it and checked discord for any info
paper plover
who are the devs for 7tv right now? did troy and lennart left?
pearl ore
who are the devs for 7tv right now? did troy and lennart left?
I know troy left
I already asked them if they have CF access and they said no lol
pearl ore
who are the devs for 7tv right now? did troy and lennart left?
Does lennart still do 7tv?
paper plover
i dont see them in the admin role, nor any recent commits in 7tv repo, so i guess not
pearl ore
This is like such a bad issue to have too
zinc aspen
Does lennart still do 7tv?
no
pearl ore
no
You know anyone with CF access?
All the 7tv devs I know are asleep as far as I can see
zinc aspen
also no, the new dev hasnt really interacted with anyone much
pearl ore
I know (heard of) fkt789 and Excellify, any of them?
pearl ore
like, with admin i mean
Who are they??
This is like a S-1 issue and shit
Impacts literally every user of the extension
pearl ore
Man, they should add me to CF
Or maybe you, idk, your timezone would probably be better
I also live near EU
zinc aspen
that and i also have dogshit sleep schedule so im up until like 5am anyway
pearl ore
Do Vue lol
zinc aspen
-# also i still need channel permissions to be fixed and for more stuff relating to subscriptions to be added to the api
paper plover
another restructure 
7tv v4
pearl ore
How is this project so dead, wtf. Why did all the cool people leave?
zinc aspen
-# because i still cant make the fucking bot do its job without access to more subscription related info like when someone subscribes or unsubscribes
zinc aspen
How is this project so dead, wtf. Why did all the cool people leave?
troy and lennart went to go work on https://github.com/ScuffleCloud/scuffle
pearl ore
troy and lennart went to go work on https://github.com/ScuffleCloud/scuffle
That I know
zinc aspen
yeah and
those were the only people with full access to everything
so even if they were still here we'd need one or both of them online
and idfk who the new head dev is
paper plover
only excellify developed from start to right now
zinc aspen
but even then they don't have direct access to anything right
like
they can develop but they can't push code?
or like
access CF?
pearl ore
those were the only people with full access to everything
I already asked Troy and they replied that they don't have access anymore
paper plover
dont think so
pearl ore
i dont see them in the admin role, nor any recent commits in 7tv repo, so i gues...
And lennart ^^
zinc aspen
I already asked Troy and they replied that they don't have access anymore
well yeah
paper plover
there's no announcment anywhere about internal structure change so idk anything about who are the devs now
pearl ore
there's no announcment anywhere about internal structure change so idk anything ...
How is this big ass project so fucking bad
What a classic
paper plover
yes we know
shut dragon
ayy 7tv is like down
good its not only me
paper plover
it's down for everyone
pearl ore
We know, we can't do shit, devs are asleep
tawny glen
oh
zinc aspen
its just the extension afaik
pearl ore
We don't have access to the shit needed to fix the issue
slate ridge
oof
tawny glen
check my help post
pearl ore
And it's just the extension
zinc aspen
website still looks like it works
slate ridge
had a feeling
pearl ore
Everything else works fine
zinc aspen
anyway kathi responded in dms
hopefully they have charlotte's phone number or some shit
or like contact with the lead dev
praying
tranquil nacelle
Everything else works fine
emote uploading is also down
paper plover
was there like artifact codes from anatole that made the whole 7tv project hard to develop?
or like this project is hard to work on in general
tranquil nacelle
processing is just halted
pearl ore
emote uploading is also down
More R2 access issues? 
tranquil nacelle
was there like artifact codes from anatole that made the whole 7tv project hard ...
I would wager money
There was supposed to be this full re-write to solve issues, but some of the same issues still crop up
And now we're on whatever is happening
pearl ore
extension's bucket's access rules are broken, you just can't access it (and your...
@quick ibex in case you are looking for the issue
paper plover
money is not the problem
the cost of running the server is not that much (according to troy), and there're quite a lot of subscribers paying 3.99 a month
zinc aspen
indigo pewter
where is your manager hmph
pearl ore
money is not the problem
the cost of running the server is not that much (accord...
So why is it still so bad
zinc aspen
lowkey they need to make so more than just charlotte and the leav dev have stuff like CF access
tranquil nacelle
Did the sale happen in december?
pearl ore
lowkey they need to make so more than just charlotte and the leav dev have stuff...
Bus factor too low
zinc aspen
wdym
pearl ore
tranquil nacelle
wdym
if too many people got hit by the same bus, the company would collapse
etc
zinc aspen
ah
pearl ore
@fast bear 👋
zinc aspen
but yea imo giving stuff like CF panel access and the like to trusted people (preferably not all in the EU so there's timezone coverage) would be extremely beneficial
especially for cases like this
glad yoke
Im very trustworthy. Can give me CF access 🙂
pearl ore
@fast bear do you know who the current admin of 7tv is? Like the head dev? Everyone I know are asleep afaik...
pearl ore
they are aware of the issues <a:elisNodding:1351655701360934942>
So like... Who are they? 🤨 I'm curious, if it's not Excellify
pearl ore
Spotted ✅
Thankfully the issue is kinda delayed, so right now it's only hitting a small part I think
As in the manifest is only loaded on browser restart or extension (re)install
So the bulk of angry users would pile sometime tomorrow, and not now
It's affecting all extension users, but the cache is saving your ass for now heh
tawny glen
for me the 7tv icon randomly disappeared while i was watching jynxzi. first i thought it was my adblocker lol... but it wasnt
zinc aspen
but yea imo giving stuff like CF panel access and the like to trusted people (pr...
@fast bear thoughts on this btw?
that way if similar issues happen that don't require stuff like directly pushing code to the repo can be fixed without like needing to wake up the dev
fast bear
This issue is not something that anyone else could navigate but for other more minor issues it's possible
zinc aspen
ah
pearl ore
This issue is not something that anyone else could navigate but for other more m...
Is it not? I guess we don't have enough info from the outside
zinc aspen
yea from what IS was saying it sounded like a CF issue?
tawny glen
yea from what IS was saying it sounded like a CF issue?
i remember ur name from somewhere hmmm...
zinc aspen
i remember ur name from somewhere hmmm...
pearl ore
fast bear
ye it's cf but idk if i should go into it 
zinc aspen
pearl ore
ye it's cf but idk if i should go into it <a:elisNodding:1351655701360934942>
Probably not until it's fixed. Also perms issue, better be safe than sorry
zinc aspen
tawny glen
...anyways gn yall
zinc aspen
tho i mean tbf perm issue seems to be lack of perms not granting perms
if it was an issue of giving perms you shouldn't have THAT would be bad 
pearl ore
That manifest is supposed to be public, no? It's needed for like ever extension install and init
pearl ore
if it was an issue of giving perms you shouldn't have THAT would be bad <:PEPW:8...
That file missing is in fact pretty fucking bad lol
pearl ore
The manifest enumerates perms the extension wants from the browser iirc. It missing fails all installs of the extension (people uninstall it and can't install back, and no new installs obviously), and makes the extension fail to access IndexedDB, so the whole init breaks down and it only partially inits, not showing any emotes (bad) and leaving only 2 lines of chat for some users (very bad, affects users who also have FFZ extension)
But the manifest is cached on extension init when you open browser, so for now it's good until people reopen it I think
zinc aspen
yuh
pearl ore
Imagine it's not a perms issue and the bucket is just gone... 
zinc aspen
pearl ore
Imagine they forgot to pay for their Cloudflare. Legendary but classic issue
short sand
Had to divert funds for Twitch Con tickets
pearl ore
Recovery livestream when? 
Like GitLab did it
What happened to GitLab that time - https://youtu.be/tLdRBsuvVKc
stuck oasis
is hte event api shitting itself
stoic bison
when is it not shitting itself
distant phoenix
when is it not shitting itself
fierce idol
when is it not shitting itself
lapis tulip
when is it not shitting itself
stuck oasis
2024
stoic bison
well
solid gale
is hte event api shitting itself
yes
you cant see who adds emotes who removes them or anything
paints sometimes wont load cause why would they
thorny flume
wait is it still broken
distant phoenix
emote processor was fixed
thorny flume
I had nightly installed and nothing was loading emotes wise
foggy hinge
emote processor was fixed
It's not actually the processor itself that's broken
It's just the signal to the api that it's no longer pending which doesn't get sent
2nd time it's happened
formal siren
The channel point is invisible for unknown reason. It seems not a known issue? I didn't find any related issues on GitHub
distant phoenix
does that streamer have channel points?
stoic bison
i have an issue with the eventapi, when i try opening a connection to "wss://events.7tv.io/v3" it gives me the status code "429 Too Many Requests", even if i try to to not sub to anything. I recently moved to another server that is hosted at home. The same code worked on my cloud server for months, i also dont see anything that could cause this on my side. I think my ip is rate limited or something, but i never tried making many connections that could cause this.
stable socket
is there any public API ? I'd like to extract the "trending" emotes list as a json once in a while 
7tv
stable socket
Thank u
ionic yarrow
<a:Noted:832729936942202942> Thank u
you can use this until it's fixed https://cloud.hasura.io/public/graphiql?endpoint=https://7tv.io/v4/gql
plain orbit
i have an issue with the eventapi, when i try opening a connection to "wss://eve...
I have the same issue 
stable socket
you can use this until it's fixed https://cloud.hasura.io/public/graphiql?endpoi...
bit of a learning curve for how to use gql but it's great once you understand, very simple. Working exactly as intended, thank you ! :)
plain orbit
is there are rename mutation or something in the v4 gql?
because after reading the operation.rs for emote_set on github I found update_emote_alias
but I can't seem to get the gql right
do I have to do a remove and then add with a new alias?
ionic yarrow
because after reading the operation.rs for emote_set on github I found update_em...
emoteSets {
emoteSet(id: $id) {
updateEmoteAlias(alias: $alias, id: {emoteId: $emoteId}) {
id
}
}
}
}
this works for me
plain orbit
Thanks I'll try this tomorrow 
tawny glen
Bypass Duplicate Message Check doesnt work for me does someone know a fix????
rigid narwhal
Bypass Duplicate Message Check doesnt work for me does someone know a fix????
Seems like Twitch is changing some things right now, that breaks this feature for example. No Workaround yet
solid gale
Seems like Twitch is changing some things right now, that breaks this feature fo...
chatterino still seems to work 
I know theres differences but there might be a workaround still 
plain orbit
```mutation MyMutation($id: Id = "", $emoteId: Id = "", $alias: String = "") {
...
Which endpoint are you posting this gql to?
https://api.7tv.app/v4/gql ?
plain orbit
Yea I tried both the one I sent and 7tv.io/v3
but I'll try v4
const userRes = await axios.get(`https://api.7tv.app/v3/users/twitch/${twitchLogin}`);
const emoteSetId = userRes.data?.emote_set?.id;
if (!emoteSetId) {
console.error('Got user data but no emote set ID found');
return null;
}
console.log('Using Emote Set ID:', emoteSetId);
const gqlQuery = {
operationName: "UpdateEmoteAlias",
query: `
mutation MyMutation($id: Id = "", $emoteId: Id = "", $alias: String = "") {
emoteSets {
emoteSet(id: $id) {
updateEmoteAlias(alias: $alias, id: {emoteId: $emoteId}) {
id
}
}
}
}
`,
variables: {
id: emoteSetId,
emoteId: emoteId,
alias: newAlias
}
};
const response = await axios.post(
'https://7tv.io/v4/gql',
gqlQuery,
{
headers: {
Authorization: `Bearer ${process.env.SEVENTV_TOKEN}`,
'Content-Type': 'application/json',
},
}
);
I've probably missed something
but tried all endpoints
solid gale
but how does it "not work", have you tried logging everything you pass to see if youre passing the correct data?
plain orbit
it prints in console "Using Emote Set ID: x" but nothing happens in chat or emote is not changed, and nothing is erroring. All data that is being passed to the variables are defined and right
if I log the response.data I get
{message: 'Unknown operation named "UpdateEmoteAlias"'}
ionic yarrow
Try changing UpdateEmoteAlias to MyMutation, or changing MyMutation to UpdateEmoteAlias
so that they match
pseudo sequoia
@quick ibex can you help me obtain a persistent bearer token?
pseudo sequoia
<@1141150115944464534> dm me your profile
it wont let me dm u, u might need to add me or try messaging me first
plush kayak
it wont let me dm u, u might need to add me or try messaging me first
are you trying to send them explicit images?
pseudo sequoia
are you trying to send them explicit images?
100%
stuck oasis
maybe consider sending those my way instead
mortal fossilBOT
Hey mzntori, - I just private messaged you 1 private reminder(s) - make sure to check them out!
rugged perch
it wont let me dm u, u might need to add me or try messaging me first
hm ok
violet flint
does the eventapi not send events in offline channels? trying to test stuff in my chat but i'm not receiving anything, but i do for channels that are online
nevermind, now i am
candid relic
hey, is there some kind of api or way to use 7tv emotes in a custom corporate chat app?
solid gale
hey, is there some kind of api or way to use 7tv emotes in a custom corporate ch...
pinned messages might help you
topaz crown
speaking of the pinned messages, the v3/v4 gql playgrounds are both down and have been for some time
rugged perch
speaking of the pinned messages, the v3/v4 gql playgrounds are both down and hav...
Will report this
topaz crown
stuck oasis
MAKE THE PLAYGROUND ACCESSIBLE
swift bough
<a:DOCING:1069349496053583932> MAKE THE PLAYGROUND ACCESSIBLE
- 7 year old child shortly after being grounded
violet flint
someone posted this link earlier that you can use for now https://cloud.hasura.io/public/graphiql?endpoint=https://7tv.io/v4/gql
violet flint
do messages sent over twitch's api instead of irc not trigger events 
rugged perch
You have to send presence to 7TV
That's how the websocket knows in which chat you are
violet flint
presence as in subscriptions or is that a separate thing? because i'm subscribing to cosmetic and entitlement topics upon join with a channel condition
let condition = json!({
"ctx": "channel",
"platform": "TWITCH",
"id": id
});
let payload = json!({
"op": 35,
"d": {
"type": event,
"condition": condition
}
});
its seperate, its a http post request that you should send when sending chat messages
plush kayak
hi ry
violet flint
ah! thank you
wispy vale
I recently discovered why 7TV was down for me but not for others. Turns out, in Spain, major ISPs are blocking Cloudflare and others in an effort to crackdown on football piracy. See more about this here (compilation of news articles, mostly in spanish but just so you get an idea and that this is a real thing): https://community.cloudflare.com/t/laliga-movistar-ip-address-blocks/784448
This issue is pretty bad especially during the weekends where there's usually a lot of football throughout the day. I'm guessing 7TV uses CloudFlare, because as soon as I used a VPN it got fixed. This isn't a simple DNS ban (eg: blocking 1.1.1.1), as I was using Google's DNS anyway. I don't really know how you'd be able to solve this (and probably will go unsolved since a migration is probably required), but basically if you live in Spain, unless you use a VPN you won't be able to use 7TV.
distant phoenix
🔜 
swift bough
when playground fix
cursive saffron
<a:AlrightAsk:1228531627781525524> when playground fix
swift bough
<a:juju:829553887656673300>
mr contributor badge over here not contributing to the playground situation! 
cursive saffron
mr contributor badge over here not contributing to the playground situation! <:v...
swift bough
btw this is as easy as just updating async_graphql in case devs didnt know
distant phoenix
devs are aware of the issues but were busy with twitch con stuff the last week or two
swift bough
devs are aware of the issues but were busy with twitch con stuff the last week o...
how can i make them aware of more issues since the github is dead as fuck
distant phoenix
how can i make them aware of more issues since the github is dead as fuck
probably this channel
but i need to tell the devs to check it more regularly
odd pasture
but i need to tell the devs to check it more regularly
Are you the new CEO or did I miss something?
stuck oasis
least obvious charlotte dick sucker
arctic crystal
mortal fossilBOT
tetohasgone is no longer AFK: call back when mr pispi gonna be live 
🖕 (5d, 11h ago)
mortal fossilBOT
tetohasgone, Your AFK status has been resumed.
lapis tulip
solid gale
so whens the frontend display of the monthly paints
swift bough
thought u guys should know its possible to add an emote with a blank name to a set that can only be removed through the API
now i got this fuckass xddcute thing in my channel and i cba to write a gql query to remove it
distant phoenix
now i got this fuckass xddcute thing in my channel and i cba to write a gql quer...
you can remove it on the old site
swift bough
topaz crown
@onyx bough BONUS
topaz crown
https://status.7tv.app
seems fine for me, at least now
plush kayak
@topaz crown
topaz crown
@plush kayak
swift bough
@topaz crown guess what
topaz crown
<@541856065310949387> guess what
chicken butt
swift bough
stuck oasis
he guessed it
plush kayak
@topaz crown why'd the chicken cross the road
warm yacht
What's the cache time for the emote sets / user endpoints?
Found someone on the Twitch subreddit mentioning that adding emotes dynamically works fine but when they refresh said emotes aren't showing anymore
They posted 2 screenshots with timestamps that are about 2 minutes apart
ionic yarrow
i think it's 15 minutes for rest and no cache for gql
warm yacht
So do I just... use GQL instead of the REST API in the FFZ addon then? 
I'm not sure how the official 7tv extension handles it
but 15mins is quite the time - if you're lucky it's 1min out of a refresh, if not then you gotta wait like 14mins
And with as many endpoints as 7TV has I doubt a cache bust for a specific URL would be possible? Say I update one of my emote sets, then it'll bust the cache of the main twitch URL and the specific set URL
topaz crown
use gql
round wind
gql or if youre lazy you can just add bogus GET params to bypass cloudflare caching like https://7tv.io/v3/users/twitch/62300805?a
topaz crown
warm yacht
gql or if youre lazy you can just add bogus `GET` params to bypass cloudflare ca...
I mean , I could do that - just use a ?_=timestamp
whatever is preferred
I know I used a smart backoff elsewhere (as in, instead of a raw timestamp, it's like... closest to 20 or 30 seconds or so)
round wind
yeah something like that should do the trick
warm yacht
I'll first try some extra logging so when some users report issues again we might be able to figure out what is causing it
Don't feel too comfortable doing calls to bypass the cache mechanics if I can avoid it hah
lament pine
How does one fetch badges for a given user?
Is it the roles property in the user or something else?
lapis tulip
there's an inventory property on the user
{
users {
user (id: "") {
inventory {
badges {
to {
badge {
name
}
}
}
}
}
}
}
ah thanks, i didn't think it would be in the inventory
gaunt magnet
hi! chatterino dev here again with another question
I talked to Anatole back in the day about the name of your fork "chatterino7"
It gets confusing since it kind of implies the version is higher than upstream
any chance you could look into renaming it to something akin to how the other forks are named like dankerino, technorino, or something else that has less chance to confuse users?
Thanks!
happy to chat in DMs or email or wherever else if this is not the right place
tidal narwhal
Emoterino7
worldly idol
Hi! I'm developing an application for a Twitch Chat Overlay and would like to request a persistent session token. Thank you!
rigid narwhal
Emoterino7 <:Hmm:889032126622728192>
I like that one
rigid narwhal
Hi! I'm developing an application for a Twitch Chat Overlay and would like to re...
please DM @rugged perch with your information, he should be able to give you a token
rugged perch
hi! chatterino dev here again with another question
I talked to Anatole back in ...
Would ChatterinoTV work?
worldly idol
What information exactly do you need?
rugged perch
Hi! I'm developing an application for a Twitch Chat Overlay and would like to re...
DM me
your profile
rigid narwhal
Would ChatterinoTV work?
I tink replacing the "Chatt" part might actually be a good idea, I know it confuses quite a lot of people that way
rugged perch
7erino 
tidal narwhal
7Televisorino 
rigid narwhal
@real sorrel any name ideas
rugged perch
Seventino 
real sorrel
uh
I mean we talked about going from "Chatterino 7.x.y" to "Chatterino7 2.x.y" but we can only do that in two releases [maybe?]. We'd need to teach the updater to "2.5.4 > 7.5.3". Maybe that could be done in the backend though 
rugged perch
I think when someone sees Chatterino7 as a name. It could confuse them for it being Chatterino version 7
rigid narwhal
happened to quite a few users I know
sullen edge
<:PauseMan:1176337702304612414> I like that one
how about spammerino
since it would be same origin basically
cold tendon
wait for charlotte to confirm @rugged perch