developers

[paper token]

FORCE
DISCORD
TO
SUPPORT
SOMETHING OTHER THAN GIFS ALREADY

[rotund pivot]

[paper token]

I see this as a feature

discord living in the 80s

[zinc aspen]

fuck you no its a bug with the gif format

submitted to website bugs

can confirm it happens with other emotes too

something about how its formatted makes discord think its a png when uploaded as an emote

which means other things might break

[rotund pivot]

That’s not a website issue

[paper token]

image processor issue

[zinc aspen]

well where the hell else do i submit a bug like that

[paper token]

also it's not really 7tv's job to provide discord emotes

[zinc aspen]

my point is

[paper token]

the gifs are ONLY used for discord embeds

[zinc aspen]

if it breaks in one place

[paper token]

and even those aren't needed anymore tbh

[zinc aspen]

it can break elsewhere

[rotund pivot]

and they work

[paper token]

discord supports animated webps everywhere except iphone

and emotes

[rotund pivot]

there is nothing wrong with the gifs

on discord

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01JF5KA90YH2K9A3DXKT8J6493/4x.gif

[paper token]

have you tested real quick with a known-good gif?

[zinc aspen]

yes

tested with like

3 emotes from 7tv

and 3 gifs from my machine

all the 7tv ones uploaded as a static emote and the 3 from my machine uploaded as animated

and my point with this bug is that if the resulting gif from 7tv can break in one place, it's entirely liable to break in another place unexpectedly

[rotund pivot]

Try uploading 3x

Or 2x

[zinc aspen]

kk

all uploads as static

works fine here but as an emote it breaks

[rotund pivot]

Maybe

It’s still animated

But the first frame covers everything

[zinc aspen]

no

it would be in the animated emotes category then

there's two categories of emote in the emote upload menu

"Emoji" and "Animated Emoji"

you can check for yourself

[paper token]

it was a good thought though

[zinc aspen]

you can look at the menu for it

[rotund pivot]

That sometimes happens on chatsen

Too lazy

I’m on my phone

[zinc aspen]

fair

[paper token]

if the downloaded gif breaks in one place it's liable to break in other places.

[zinc aspen]

literally yes

if it has fucked up metadata who's to say it won't fuck up elsewhere

[paper token]

I'd almost guarantee it's gif specific

[zinc aspen]

even then

its something that should be fixed in my opinion

[paper token]

dev time

for a format that likely won't even be used soon

[zinc aspen]

if i download a gif i expect it to work anywhere that other gifs work

[rotund pivot]

Try uploading a very old emote

[zinc aspen]

literally is an old emote

[rotund pivot]

well maybe it’s fucked up

And fixed by now

[zinc aspen]

okay grabbing a newer emote then

[paper token]

have they been reprocessed?

they used to work fine

[rotund pivot]

I don’t think old emotes got reprocessed since at least 2 years

[paper token]

does it show in activity?

this one shows up as static too

it could EASILY be a discord issue rather than a 7tv issue @zinc aspen

[paper token]

or at least a discord change

[zinc aspen]

i reiterate it works with any other gif i try

its ONLY gifs from 7tv

[paper token]

well compare metadata

use a hex editor xqcLook

[zinc aspen]

mf idk shit abt hex

[paper token]

the gif format is fairly simple, being from the 80s

[zinc aspen]

here's a gif that works and a gif that doesn't

you check

[rotund pivot]

Automatic brainrot detection

[zinc aspen]

[paper token]

true

also KDE plasma has at least one regression right now and it's throwing off my groove

[zinc aspen]

?

[rotund pivot]

And by putting it into ezgif I meant try putting it through the optimizer

or splitting into frames and making a gif again

[paper token]

the headers are different

[paper token]

running it through gifski would probably fix it

[zinc aspen]

knew it

knew something had to be fucked

[paper token]

but that doesn't mean anything on its own

[zinc aspen]

oh

[paper token]

bounce was made with gifski too it looks like

[zinc aspen]

optimizing doesn't fix it

somehow

so thats crazy

what the fuck

splitting and reforming with ezgif also still broken

what the fuck

[paper token]

yeah it's 100% a discord change

not a 7tv change

[zinc aspen]

cursed frames

[rotund pivot]

[paper token]

my own gifski export also doesn't work

[zinc aspen]

hold on

lemme grab a fresh gif

https://tenor.com/view/oh-hell-nah-hell-nah-bro-what-cringe-dies-from-cringe-gif-16477018881305712252

downloaded as mp4 becuase discord is stupid, stuck into ezgif, converted, shrunk, uploaded

so its not like any new gif made with ezgif is breaking

its literally just the thing from 7tv

this makes no sense

[rotund pivot]

Don’t make me get out of bed

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/66410ab8a7bb6ade963563c4/4x.gif

[zinc aspen]

[paper token]

gifski

[manic torrent]

So question

if someone has WHAT as and I have WHAT in my personal emotes as

they are supposed to see my personal emote right? or no

[paper token]

I would assume that's how it's supposed to work

does it not?

[cinder solar]

@paper token

[manic torrent]

Yeah it doesnt

it goes to whatever they have in the chat

Idk why I thought my personal one would override

[paper token]

which extension(s) do you use?

it's up to the extension itself to decide which emote to display

[manic torrent]

oh

I just use either twitch or chatterino

[paper token]

twitch is not an extension

Chatterino decides what to display on its own

but FFZ or BTTV or 7TV also decide what to display

[manic torrent]

Ohh

I got you

[paper token]

Ideally all their behavior would be the same but there's nothing stopping them from doing it differently

[manic torrent]

@fiery turtle you didnt get it yet right?

fuck wrong chat

[cinder solar]

didn’t realise i did this in dev channel haha whoops

my bad ❤️

[fiery turtle]

wym

[rancid tulip]

[GraphQL] LOAD_ERROR badge not found

logged in on a new pc

everytime I refresh page get that error

but fixed when I changed badge

[pulsar iris]

To what badge?

[rancid tulip]

2023 NNYS

[pulsar iris]

Holy

[supple basalt]

how to get x-max badge
??

[rotund pivot]

gift 1 sub to anyone

it literally says on the website

[manic torrent]

[tired arch]

[tame sparrow]

чапаапспа

[vagrant lion]

[plush kayak]

@sudden gust is there a reason the lock files (like package lock and pnpm lock) files aren't included in the gitignore

the package lock file isn't even committed so it just shows up as untracked whenever it gets generated

just wondering if there's a reason that it's like that

also whenever I run it locally I can't open the emotes page why is that

[sudden gust]

The lock files are there, we use pnpm, so it's pnpm-lock.yaml

[zinc aspen]

@plush kayak you shouldn't gitignore the lock files anyway afaik

[plush kayak]

oh right yeah

[plush kayak]

I've always just done it

I know it can cause some issues

but it's pretty rare I think

the versions are stored in the package file

[zinc aspen]

still not worth the risk

[plush kayak]

so I think it only breaks if the registry is changed manually

[zinc aspen]

rare != never

[plush kayak]

yes

[zinc aspen]

better to avoid potential issues altogether instead of saving like 2kb

[plush kayak]

they can get pretty big

[zinc aspen]

still, its better to keep it imo

the only reason i could ever justify ignoring and removing from repo is if you have like 90 trillion packages and its so big that you're forced to use git-lfs

[plush kayak]

it literally breaks my browser I can't close the page whenever I click on it

can't even interact with devtools

[zinc aspen]

that sounds like its either processing too much data or somehow getting stuck in an endless loop or something

[plush kayak]

yes it is infinitely looping

idk why tho

[zinc aspen]

attach a debugger?

[plush kayak]

hang on brah

[sudden gust]

how does the networking tab look?

[plush kayak]

I looked at that the first time I did it and there was nothing happening

hang on I'll test it again

there's no errors

it gets the scripts and stuff for the page so it loads fine

so it's gotta be something with the data

it warns ```
Throttling navigation to prevent the browser from hanging. See <URL>. Command line switch --disable-ipc-flooding-protection can be used to bypass the protection

oh I found the issue

[sudden gust]

what was it?

[plush kayak]

the effect that changes the url search params

it was redirecting every frame

[sudden gust]

But that should work, I'm confused

[plush kayak]

yeah

me too

I tried preview and it didn't work either

so it's not a dev environment issue

[sudden gust]

Do you use pnpm now?

maybe some packages have the wrong version

[plush kayak]

yes

I can try reinstalling maybe

[sudden gust]

weird

[plush kayak]

:Waiting: resolving packages

NAUR MY NITRO

gr

[plush kayak]

yeah a reinstall did fix it

weird

no way taht shit took 30 minutes

ok I open pr and sleep

[real pulsar]

open source is anyone may volunteer even me, no?

also hello

[zinc aspen]

yes, fork and pr

also how the fuck am i supposed to run 7tv locally if i don't have mongodb

because i aint payin for that shit

[patent wing]

what is there to pay for

[zinc aspen]

yeah my bad i didnt realize there was a community edition

oh you have got to be shitting me

cargo build fails

im not debugging the entire fucking project just to try implement the one thing i wanted to do when i barely know rust as-is

oh

out of date rust

[zinc aspen]

okay i miiiiiiiight need some help implementing the 7tv backend changes

i have no idea what im doing, i've done some things but idk if it's actually what i should be doing and im sorta just mimicking the things around it

all i want is for a user's subscription status to be retrievable from the rest api, and an event to be sent when:

• subscribing (send subscription status and linked discord id)
• unsubscribing (send subscription status and linked discord id)
• logging in and the discord oauth is invalid (send as if unsubscribed)
• disconnecting discord from 7tv website (send as if unsubscribed)

but it is proving ludicrously difficult to figure any of this shit out myself

unironically programming language invented by aliens this shit makes no sense to me

i gave it an honest try but this is just a brick wall for me

[topaz crown]

you can already retrieve a user's subscription status from both rest and gql api

[zinc aspen]

i thought you couldn't?

unless i am just

immensly blind

[topaz crown]

https://7tv.io/egvault/v1/subscriptions/01G6HF7Y9R000AE6YXS14X580S

[zinc aspen]

oh god fucking dammit

[topaz crown]

[zinc aspen]

still need an event tho

so bot knows when to check status

[pulsar iris]

v1

[topaz crown]

you could have it check status when they type in discord, and then have a cooldown of like a day before trying again

[zinc aspen]

no

would rather just hook into the event api

[pulsar iris]

I think that's what the old one did

[zinc aspen]

yeah and its slow and shit

[swift bough]

poll every single user id at all times

[pulsar iris]

It only gave role after you typed

[pulsar iris]

[topaz crown]

[pulsar iris]

100k requests

[topaz crown]

[swift bough]

hundreds of free tier aws and oracle cloud instances, using both ipv4 and ipv6

or just learn rust

[zinc aspen]

no shit

takes more than a day to learn rust

[pulsar iris]

Most developers would do the 1st option

[zinc aspen]

yeah well i want my bot to be responsive

and not slow as fuck

[swift bough]

most developers would give up or just do what ryan suggested (which is what makes the most sense)

[pulsar iris]

Yeah I'm jokin

[patent wing]

would be better to just implement a discord bot in the repo, wouldn't need to expose it to events api

[sudden gust]

Yes, it doesn't have to be Rust. You can consume our raw nats event stream. That's what the event API is built on.

There are no events emitted when someone subscribes though. That has to be added to the API code.

[patent wing]

just gotta deserialize the messagepack serialization

[zinc aspen]

yeah thats

[zinc aspen]

my plan is to literally use the api

im saying the api doesnt have what i need to make it work

i need to know when someone subscribes/unsubscribes and when someone links/unlinks their discord account

[uncut terrace]

polling probably wouldn't be a good solution at all

[wide frigate]

'

[paper token]

I’m on my phone rn but can you check the file sizes of these?

Vic and I have been working on it

I think discord raised the file size limit for static emotes

But not animated

It seems that being under 256 kb is all it takes for an emote to be animated

Discord used to refuse uploads completely if they were over 256 kb

But then they started using webp

So I assume static emotes can be larger because discord trusts that they’ll be small enough once converted to webp

[zinc aspen]

no

the requirement for being animated isnt being <256kb, thats just the emote upload limit period

same for static

its stupid

[paper token]

Well Vic was testing it with gifski encodes for me

Different quality values

He was able to upload file sizes larger than 256 kb

But those are the only ones that became static

[zinc aspen]

guh

what

[paper token]

-Q 92 vs -Q 91 was the limit

[zinc aspen]

when i uploaded the emotes i tried they were all under 256kb tho

[paper token]

Well that might still be a different problem

[zinc aspen]

and ANY time i have ever tried uploading something over 256kb it failed

animated or not

[main steeple]

misspleed compressed w/e

misspelled misspelled w/e

[rotund pivot]

[zinc aspen]

misspleed

[main steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[plush kayak]

@sudden gust why is the active emote set in uploaded emotes?

[fluid crane]

the new system of enabling/disable an emote set on a channel is so confusing to me

i feel like it's the opposite way of simplifying stuff. it used to be obvious but somehow it's too complicated now

[rotund pivot]

why not

[plush kayak]

because not all the uploaded emotes are in the active set

[rotund pivot]

its literally a button

so it can be accessed quickly everywhere on your profile

[plush kayak]

oh

well seems confusing given the information listed on that page

ngl

[fluid crane]

this is why it should be on the nav bar then. it has no business there

[plush kayak]

yea

[rotund pivot]

it cant be on the navbar

silly

[plush kayak]

should just not be there at all on that page

imo

[rotund pivot]

how else do you expect to change the active set for someone else

[fluid crane]

why...?

[rotund pivot]

as an editor

its literally there for a reason

[plush kayak]

yeah I know it's there for a reason but

it should only show on active emotes page

because that makes sense

it shows the active emotes with the corresponding active set

[rotund pivot]

it should be on the emote sets page and on the active page

so leaving it on the uploaded page as well doesnt hurt

[plush kayak]

it does hurt because it's confusing and seems out of place

I get what you mean tho

like what else should you add there

maybe another upload emote button?

that could be the right move tbh

[rotund pivot]

i guess

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01FSJMMMY80007E5TN8YT2B5AA/3x.gif

its all just cosmetic

[fluid crane]

i don't get what's your point. what does it change if the button is in 1 or in 2?

[plush kayak]

that doesn't make sense

because it's not a separate tab

it's there to show what the current set is

not to change it

that's how I interpret it

[fluid crane]

it's not what it is

(i took the screenshot in active emotes but i should have gone to emote sets instead, but yea)

[plush kayak]

this looks better imo

just added it quickly

[fluid crane]

hell yea

[rotund pivot]

http://img2.joyreactor.cc/pics/comment/котэ-неси-черешню-картинка-с-текстом-жрадло-4462097.gif

[plush kayak]

[fluid crane]

another confusing thing with this new system is that now it lets you disable the active set, which makes no sense because the set is still active anyway

[plush kayak]

does this look better

[plush kayak]

I think this is maybe just a bug

[fluid crane]

you shouldn't be able to disable the only active set, the "disable" button is literally useless

[plush kayak]

why not

what if you want no emotes in your chat

[fluid crane]

oh in that case

[plush kayak]

what's the point of NOT having a disable button

[fluid crane]

ig

then it's just not working yea, a bug

[rotund pivot]

you could disable it on the old website

thats not new

[fluid crane]

true

[rotund pivot]

also this #1318275831902244925 message

[fluid crane]

yea i'd love that

also

how do you change your default set now?

since the button got removed?

[plush kayak]

@rotund pivot what do you think of this

the separated sections looked kinda weird to me I feel like this is more consistent

[rotund pivot]

its on the emotes page

but i wanted it on the navbar or the old way in the set selector when adding an emote

[fluid crane]

where?

[rotund pivot]

[fluid crane]

[rotund pivot]

read

https://7tv.app/emotes

[fluid crane]

yea going all the way to that page to change it doesn't really make sense

[main steeple]

@paper token when I just dropped the files they were both animated

[paper token]

what do you mean?

[main steeple]

^

[paper token]

but what do you meant "just dropped the files"

[main steeple]

drag and drop @paper token

[paper token]

gifs onto discord?

[main steeple]

yep

[paper token]

as emotes or normal messages?

[main steeple]

messages

in this chatbox

[paper token]

Yeah

that's always worked

it's only emotes that behave weirdly

[main steeple]

[plush kayak]

brah

I hate git sm

I had this same issue this morning and then I did all my changes again now and it still won't push 😢

I checked out my fork but apparently that made it so I wasn't on a branch

so I don't know where all my changes went

[fleet garden]

@plush kayak use git reflog & after you finind the commit hash do git checkout -b name <hash>

[plush kayak]

already discarded local commits lol

idrc

I didn't change that much

[fleet garden]

erm

[plush kayak]

but thank you

[zinc aspen]

i guess i could probably set up the system for listening to the event api and querying the rest api while i wait for someone to implement the events i need

could maybe get the activity feed back up and running

[patent wing]

it's not that hard to subscribe to a nats stream

[zinc aspen]

i mean

[zinc aspen]

isnt the event api just a websocket i can listen to or

[sudden gust]

I think you should run the bot inside our cluster and listen to the nats stream. I think no one is gonna add that feature to the event api

[zinc aspen]

i mean even troy said ideally i wouldn't run it inside the cluster
also, can i get an explanation of what a cluster even is? not a term im familiar with

[patent wing]

many computer together strong

[zinc aspen]

i mean im on one of the hetzner servers but i dont think its necessarily connected to any other of the 7tv stuff

[sudden gust]

I mean our kubernetes cluster when I say cluster

Which consists of 27 hardware servers

[zinc aspen]

never heard of this kubernetes thing

[sudden gust]

Alright idk then

[zinc aspen]

i mean im willing to learn obviously, im looking at it on google and it seems useful to know just in general

[fleet garden]

he doesnt know...

k8s is cool when you pass the steeping learning curve

[sudden gust]

yeah it's quite useful but I guess it's fine when you host it yourself. You will have to use the event api then tho

[zinc aspen]

oh yeah no this looks steep as fuck

[fleet garden]

but learning it without prior container experience should be painful af

[zinc aspen]

i barely learned how to use docker compose for this because i thought (stupidly) that i would be sharing a server with another 7tv process

not that i'd be given my own hetzner instance

[fleet garden]

that's fine, just dont be intimidated with the complexity and go with the flow

[sudden gust]

We don't use docker compose for a lot of reasons, think of kubernetes like a more advanced docker compose replacement

[zinc aspen]

hmm

[sudden gust]

but yeah it's very complex and I don't fully get how it works either

[fleet garden]

+1

[sudden gust]

Like I know how to use it but Troy set it all up

[zinc aspen]

i assume its just one of those things where once you get at least a general understanding of how to set it up, its generally easier to work with than docker-compose?

or like

more flexible or something

[sudden gust]

No I wouldnt say that

[fleet garden]

k8s gets easier when you pass the steeping curve thing and with A LOT OF DEDICATION

like A LOT

[sudden gust]

It's more complicated than docker compose but you need it when dealing with a lot of load on your servers. You can run docker compose on only one server at a time. Kubernetes works with clusters. That means you can join your servers into one cluster and then run your containers on the cluster.

[fleet garden]

I mean if you dont have understanding of TLS/SSL, PKI stuff and so on there's probably no talking about k8s for now

[zinc aspen]

so its basically just compose but for cases where the work load is so huge that one machine wouldn't be enough, or where you need like multiple data center locations like with the cdn servers

[fleet garden]

this is like

k8s if fireship videos where 100 seconds exactly

[sudden gust]

yes and also fail safe solutions

if your docker compose server dies your whole thing would be down, not with kubernetes. It would just spin up the container on another server.

[fleet garden]

DAMN IT HERE'S THAT AI GUY AGAIN

[zinc aspen]

ahh i see

interesting

yeah this is defintely something i need to learn if i ever work on my own large scale project
that or somehow actually fucking learn enough rust to understand how to work with 7tv

[fleet garden]

do you really need rust that much tho

[zinc aspen]

i mean

7tv is in rust

i can marginally understand whats happening sometimes by inferring things here and there

but as for getting a full understanding of what something actually does in low level terms or writing extra things into it

currently i'd be a lost cause on that front

[fleet garden]

ahh, e.g. you can subscribe to nats stream using any language of your choice, there are dedicated libs everywhere

[zinc aspen]

oh

wait so it isnt just a websocket?

thought i'd be able to just

connect to websocket and parse messages sent through it

[fleet garden]

nah, it's if we're talking about nats it's not websocket

[zinc aspen]

i mean as long as its well documented on how to interact with it i should be fine

[sudden gust]

Ok let me explain

[fleet garden]

it's like ws is persistent and two-way, while nats is primarily publish/send, can be request/reply

[zinc aspen]

that and assuming there's a good js framework for it because i don't want to spend god knows how long doing it from scratch

i mean i will if i have to but still

[fleet garden]

i've never dug that deep in the infra so lennart and troy would def know more

catWait

[patent wing]

data fast through that tcp pipe

[sudden gust]

Our infrastructure consists of different applications. Two of those are the api and the event-api. They are different applications which means they somehow have to exchange data. So internally we use nats (not ws) to send the events from api (where they are happening) to our event api (where they are emitted to the ws clients from outside).
That means you can either run your thing outside of our cluster and connect to the event api via websocket or you can run it inside our cluster and subscribe to our raw nats stream.

[zinc aspen]

ah thats what you meant

i mean ideally someone does just add like the 4 events i need and i can use websocket
as for the nats stream i assume that would in fact have the relevant info i need? or would i need to add it there anyway

[sudden gust]

No the events you need are not emitted anywhere right now

[zinc aspen]

hm

[sudden gust]

Unfortunately I have more important stuff to do right now which means I won't be able to add that before I leave

[zinc aspen]

damn :/

[patent wing]

oxidize discord bot

[zinc aspen]

hopefully whoever it is that takes over the main development is able to then

because i tried looking at the code for the events n stuff and i was just confused as fuck

[fleet garden]

hope I will sleep and give lennart peace with my new-website-issues activity kekw

[fleet garden]

the codebase is generally good, there are some cluttered moments

but it's like not hard to work with

[zinc aspen]

again idk rust

[plush kayak]

I added daily trending emotes for the default search thing

[zinc aspen]

so its infinitely harder for me to understand whats going on than someone who does

[rotund pivot]

so the same 5 emotes forever

[zinc aspen]

lol

[plush kayak]

is trending by used or by added

[rotund pivot]

added

there is no usage tracking

[plush kayak]

[fleet garden]

there are some courses for folks that come from js/ts and tryna learn rust

I believe at least primeagen did one

[zinc aspen]

hmm

[rotund pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/817075418054000661/1318642788375461948 add this instead

[plush kayak]

@sudden gust btw I was thinking about adding the personal emote set as a separate section in the active emotes page, but I am bad at gql so it failed and kept spamming requests idk why

maybe that's a good feature

[plush kayak]

yes I will add it

[fleet garden]

I like the idea

[fleet garden]

regarding this thoughts on making it raycast-ish?

[rotund pivot]

wot

[plush kayak]

I did iit

[rotund pivot]

[fleet garden]

when openning the search either by mouse or with a keybiding the search on desktop will be like this with the bg dimmed to highlight this as the primary search

[rotund pivot]

i havent seen any websites that do this

[fleet garden]

reasonable, me 2

[plush kayak]

@rotund pivot any other features that I can add

I went through the thread but it's mostly like stuff that I wouldn't know how to fix

actually the things you posted are doable

[rotund pivot]

for cosmetic changes i wanted to round the emotes and emote sets

like to 0.75rem

or 0.5

they really stick out

[plush kayak]

yea

right now it's .25

for sets

[rotund pivot]

i think the emotes could be 0.5 and the sets 0.75

[plush kayak]

I will fix editors page layout first

[rotund pivot]

what exactly

[plush kayak]

wat da shart is that

[rotund pivot]

#1318928925723856906 message this maybe

[fleet garden]

you can also add malito links for tos and privacy policy pages

[plush kayak]

ok I am done for the day

made the sigma pr

[rotund pivot]

i dont think the page titles are necessary

theyre kinda distracting

[plush kayak]

I don't think so either, but the top of the layouts were padded down a lot and it looked pretty empty

I'm kinda neutral on it

'cause there's not really a CLEAR clear indicator for what you're actually looking at

on those pages

also I love that font

should be used in more places imo

and this is a good opportunity

[rotund pivot]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01FSJMMMY80007E5TN8YT2B5AA/3x.gif

that font wont be there soon

[plush kayak]

whai

[rotund pivot]

cause there is a new landing page design

[plush kayak]

wade where is that

[rotund pivot]

nowhere

its only in the figma

[plush kayak]

where is the figma

has:link figma 🔍

[rotund pivot]

soon

can you remove the titles from the pr for now

[plush kayak]

idk how

also I sleep ->

[rotund pivot]

also wont the search result get extremely long

for people with a lot of editors

[plush kayak]

I think so

[rotund pivot]

like youre adding even more to it

[plush kayak]

is it scrollable?

also I was thinking

maybe the users should be above emotes

[rotund pivot]

its literally how it was before

and people complained

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/63c9c79921b9fa49600a398c/4x.gif

[plush kayak]

oh

[rotund pivot]

its not

wonder why nobody complained about it yet

[plush kayak]

that's silly

I will fix it if lennart hasn't fixed it tmr

(maybe)

(I have exams soon)

[rotund pivot]

gl

i just dont think having trending emotes here is useful enough

[plush kayak]

what else should it be

nothing looks silly

[rotund pivot]

the default results are mainly here to access your editor channels

and adding more clutter to it will be just annoying

why would someone care about 5 random emotes

especially when atm theyre just the top ones on 7tv

also i looked at random websites and the user dropdown isnt really aligned with the navbar

well maybe on reddit

[plush kayak]

feel free to reject whatever you don't like of course

that's why it's a pr

[rotund pivot]

ill leave a comment of things i like

[plush kayak]

thank u sigma

[sudden gust]

wtf is this

[rotund pivot]

nothing

i just duplicated the elements to test the limits

[sudden gust]

I made sure it doesn't happen

[sudden gust]

oh

[rotund pivot]

the search results however

for emotes

are duplicated

[sudden gust]

that's a known bug, isn't it? I can't reproduce it tho

[rotund pivot]

i seem to only get it while im at 80% scale

[rotund pivot]

like this page seems to only duplicate if you set your website scale lower than 90% https://7tv.app/emotes?t=lotr

[fluid crane]

i think it depends of your own screen resolution? I had to go down to 50% to see the bug, not before that

[rotund pivot]

yeah it does

at anything under 175% monitor scaling on windows i get the duplicate emotes even on 100% website scale

i actually have to make it more than 100% for it to go away

[hidden canyon]

So same sorta bug that happens on old.7tv where you'd get an infinite loading bug at a certain scale

[rotund pivot]

that was related to the viewport width

[zinc aspen]

are you fucking kidding me

how does viewport width cause that of all things

[rotund pivot]

it did on the old website

this one is different

[zinc aspen]

either way still stupid

[rotund pivot]

well it still does

[zinc aspen]

the fact that ANYTHING is duplicating based off viewport width or scale or whatever is horrendous

like why should it matter to whatever js is running

[rotund pivot]

this one just doesnt load the emotes, doesnt duplicate them

only the new website has the duplication bug

[zinc aspen]

and the new website bug is still based off viewport shit right

[rotund pivot]

also i have the same issue on both chrome and firefox

[zinc aspen]

why the fuck does the viewport size changing break the scripts

[rotund pivot]

it has something to do with the infinite scroll

i assume

or idk maybe im making shit up

[rotund pivot]

cause it still happens here

[zinc aspen]

how do i connect to the event websocket again?

is it just wss://events.7tv.io

or

[sudden gust]

I suspect it's a bug in the infinite scroll library I use

[zinc aspen]

hm

[sudden gust]

It looks at the scroll of the page which is affected by the zoom I think

[zinc aspen]

yeah but why the hell would that generate extra emotes on the page

[sudden gust]

Well idk I'll take a look but it's not that crazy that it's related

[sudden gust]

This plus /v3

[zinc aspen]

ok lemme monitor this thing for a bit and see what it actually spits out

{"d":{"count":18},"op":2,"t":1734994586285,"s":19}

how the fuck do i interpret this

count starts at 0 and goes up by 1 every message i get, s starts at 1 and goes up by 1 every message i get, no idea what they mean i just know they increment

[topaz crown]

https://github.com/SevenTV/EventAPI/blob/dev/README.MD docs

[zinc aspen]

ahh wire

[zinc aspen]

what do i use for a condition

trying to test with just sending an opcode for getting anything related to emotes

but its telling me invalid condition when i didn't pass one

and unless im like uber blind i don't see a list of conditions

[patent wing]

condition relates to the thing you're subscribing to

[zinc aspen]

all i know is im trying to get basically every event, at least every event relevant to #activity-feed

[topaz crown]

either { type: 'emote_set.*', condition: { object_id: '01GNRGBX9G000EM7Q5KTKE4R0D' } }for individual things like updates for a single emote set emote_set.*

or { type: 'entitlement.*', condition: { platform: 'TWITCH', ctx: 'channel', id: '186352304' } } for channel specific events

[patent wing]

this is not possible

[zinc aspen]

well then how the hell did activity feed work

[patent wing]

not through event api

[plush kayak]

why don't you just use discord webhook and add it to the backend

[topaz crown]

yeah thats not eventapi

[plush kayak]

like

[zinc aspen]

oh

god dammit i dont wanna modify 7tv source code

[plush kayak]

why not

[zinc aspen]

i literally don't know enough rust to confidently do so

i go in there and i barely understand what the fuck is happening

[plush kayak]

well great opportunity to learn

[patent wing]

i can do it

[zinc aspen]

i mean go for it, not gonna say no to some help on this

[patent wing]

all in rust

[topaz crown]

rust!

[zinc aspen]

i would love to learn rust, im in the process of it but it's been really slow

[plush kayak]

then why not do it

😭

[zinc aspen]

motherfucker let me do some basic shit in the language before jumping head first into a full stack rust application with shit i barely understand

[plush kayak]

yeah well

make like

[zinc aspen]

god damn

[plush kayak]

a new project

and then make it send a message to a webhook

boom that's 1 part

and then when u got that down

then u read 7tv's code

and then you find the final stage of where it registers the emote

and then u copy paste the thing you wrote to there

and BOOOOOOM

friggin' done

I would consider sending a message to a webhook to be basic stuff

[zinc aspen]

okay i also need like 4 new events implemented and i tried looking at those and my brain melted trying to figure out how the fuck to just add a subscribe/unsubscribe event

i dont even know if i was doing the right thing i was just blindly trying to mimic what looked like event related shit

[plush kayak]

I think honestly you would benefit more from writing the bot in rust and using ipc to do the sub role and emote activity

[zinc aspen]

i am not rewriting the whole ass bot in rust

[plush kayak]

what does it do right now

send log messages?

'cause there's probably an example for that in the discord crate or whatever you wanna use

again, pretty basic project to learn rust

unless you just don't have time of course

then I understand

[zinc aspen]

i like the flexibility of js for discord bots specifically

[plush kayak]

I assume you were trying to add events for whenever someone subscribes

[zinc aspen]

a lot of the way this thing is written would need to be redone entirely and made even longer just to work in rust

[zinc aspen]

i need one for someone subscribing, someone unsubscribing, someone connecting their discord, and someone disconnecting their discord

[plush kayak]

I just don't think that's like a thing that should be accessed publicly I ain't gone lie to ya

[zinc aspen]

i mean you can already get this info publicly anyways with rest

subscription status and connected discord

[plush kayak]

I know

[zinc aspen]

if they weren't exposed in the rest api you'd have a point

[plush kayak]

idk why I think that honestly

am probably being silly

feels like pocketwatching maybe

[main steeple]

have u discussed the compression/ filesize issue for animated emotes on dc yesterday?

[sudden gust]

New connection event is already there

Just not on the event API

[zinc aspen]

ooh

[swift bough]

would it be feasible to maybe add feature gates to the shared crate on the monorepo to let people use it without pulling a brazillion deps

[plush kayak]

@south flare

[south flare]

It’s actually bad practice me thinks because it creates build dep cycles

We should setup a workspace hack and that will improve the incremental compile times

The compile times are basically all from async-stripe

It’s an awful library

But there is no alternative:(

I think if u use nightly (1.85) the compile times get halved and link time is 2x too

It’s currently a bug related to some regression code that made it to stable on 1.82

Making compile times much slower

[south flare]

Not to feature gate code but to feature gate deps. Because it ends up creating conditional compile steps which means depending on which combinations of applications we compile will change the dependencies which isn’t good. Ideally we should break the shared create into many smaller crates and then setup a workspace hack to resolve the deps issue

[plush kayak]

[swift bough]

im on nightly and async-stripe takes like 5 minutes to compile

[plush kayak]

what the sigma

[swift bough]

not even joking

[frosty bronze]

how often does it need to re-compile?

[plush kayak]

like every minute

[patent wing]

what changes are you making that requires you to build so often

[plush kayak]

u trying to roasting me?

woahw.

didn't expected it from you..

[patent wing]

I mean i don't even build until I have basically written everything

[plush kayak]

(I'm just doing a jokes ,so)

[sudden gust]

async-stripe has to be compiled only once

It doesn't change

[frosty bronze]

I don’t see the big hullabaloo then

[swift bough]

well i wanted to make an eventapi client library and i didnt want everyone who uses it to pull 570 deps

so i think it'd be cool if like public API types were exposed in a smol crate in the repo instead of this big ass crate with all this other stuff in it

what i can do is just copy paste the types from the repo and credit it in a comment with a link to the license ig

not that big of a deal, just would be nice

[patent wing]

the types are gonna be the same either way, if you wrote them yourself

[swift bough]

yeah but then if there's a change upstream i would only need to update the ref on my manifest and aboom, it works

[patent wing]

oh yeah I guess

not sure if there would be any new types for the usecase to even matter though

but yeah would be nice for it to be split into workspaces

[trim tulip]

is there a quickstart doc or readme somewhere for compiling and deploying the web extension only? I've been going through the github and I'm only finding info for setting up the whole website

[rotund aspen]

https://github.com/seventv/extension

[inner vale]

I'm not sure thats right place for ask, but is there some kind of bot tokens for 7tv automation for 3rd party apps? I'm interested on manage emote sets as editor of channel.

[rotund aspen]

you can get the token from localstorage on 7tv.app or ask a dev for 1 year one

[inner vale]

Thats is how my app was working before, token was live longer.

With new refactor it is lived for 1 month,

[rotund aspen]

that's what I'm saying, if you want the one for 1 year then ask a dev

[inner vale]

Ok, where?

[rotund aspen]

in dms

lennart was the one that gave it to me, so I guess you can message him

[inner vale]

Ok, thanks.

[hidden geode]

is there any quickstart or guide for implementing 7tv into my app? i want to make an app with twitch chat, and i want 7tv emotes to show up on the chat

[rotund aspen]

If you want live emote updates then implement https://github.com/seventv/eventapi (recommended).
If not, 7tv.io/v3/:

• users/PLATFORM/id (for example users/TWITCH/198740595)
• emote-sets/id or emote-sets/global for global one

[plush kayak]

can always look at chatis

[hidden geode]

i mean to just create an overlay that will display something like: chatter: message instead of chatter: message somerandom7tvemotetext

i have the basics done already, just need to replace the messages with 7tv emotes

[plush kayak]

well then do that

replace the text with an emote

[zinc aspen]

issue with extension

im literally subbed

[patent wing]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/630db7e07b84e74996da9552/4x.gif

[rotund pivot]

just subscribe again

[zinc aspen]

cant for like 9 days lel

because im literally subbed

[rigid narwhal]

try restarting browser

[zinc aspen]

eats

[ashen fern]

cancel sub and sub again

[stuck oasis]

do not

you have to repay

well on old site maybe its different now

[quiet mason]

yo hello

[quaint apex]

How do I get that badge

[paper token]

That purple thing? I think that’s a twitch profile picture

[lilac igloo]

So I found a bug when uploading emotes in .mp4 format

When uploading an .mp4 to make it an emote everything goes well until you see the emote after it finishes processing, the result is an animation that gets stuck on the first frame for a long period of time before continuing to do the proper animation.

On the picture you can see how the first frame shows up for a full second (values are 1 = 1/100 of a second) and the rest are significantly shorter.

It has happened with 2 emotes so far that I have uploaded in the past month and before that I have uploaded +40 emotes in .mp4 format and they all have processed perfectly.

Maybe a dev that works with the image processing will notice that here

[manic torrent]

@paper token

I’m sure anson knows the answer

[paper token]

I don’t know why it’s happening but I have noticed it

mp4s seem to be the worst

avif suffers too

webp seems clean

but I haven’t had a chance to do extensive testing lately

This is why I mentioned webp is the best format to use right now

[manic torrent]

Oh ggs

If anson doesn’t know then no one will know

[paper token]

Not exactly true

But thanks

[short sand]

Did y'all update ffmpeg or something?

[inland totem]

was this intentional or is it bugged just for me? it's like this on 2 of my pcs

[patent wing]

what do you think

[tired arch]

Refer to this #1204118802984476682 message

[fierce idol]

LGTM

[mortal matrix]

would it be useful to move the cosmetics section for useres to change their paints from being under the user dropdown to instead be to the right of the store button? it would have to have a sign-in button if people aren't signed in, but it might be a little more intuitive for users to be able to change their cosmetics right next to the store button

also im thinking of changing some padding for the store to be more center aligned since right now i feel like there's a bit of eye strain going from the banners to the main information on each page on large monitors (1440p+), but i dont want to start working on stuff until im sure that it's actually a useful change, so please give me any thoughts on this! tyia!

[signal dock]

hello where to report bugs?

[rigid narwhal]

if it's a general bug in #1204105649244479518 , if it's a bug related to the new website #1317181515423027230

[signal dock]

thanks i made a post in help, im not sure if its related to the new ui or they changed some policies

[distant vigil]

@lethal jackal why did u leave all the servers man

[main steeple]

did u guys fix the problem with the 4x emotes being too big for DC?

[paper token]

no this is not a problem with 7TV

not even in the slightest

7tv isn't going to arbitrarily try to make their 4x emotes 256 kb just so people can steal them and upload them to discord

[waxen sleet]

Hello, I read the Contributing.md and it says I need to sign a CLA but the link does not work

[patent wing]

theres no dev to merge them yet

at least until the new dev learns, apparently the dev just signed up for github like a week ago. hope the guy is a gitlab guy or git something.

surely they will be able to handle everything

[prisma temple]

Is the autocomplete not working out of nowhere a known issue?

I'd love to help figure out why

[strange owl]

Yes, it's mainly because of the way the workers are set up. Simply using /refresh should fix it.

[prisma temple]

Ty!

[waxen sleet]

wtf

[gaunt magnet]

hello there, chatterino dev here. i'm loading 7tv badges through eventapi but some fail to load (e.g. 2 month subscriber). it seems they might be missing a static_name field. I haven't super debugged yet but I will look into it a bit further

turns out the static_name exists. Badge I'm loading is 01GAF95ZTG000E8VNG1S1RMTBB. static_name is 1x_static.webp, yet url at https://cdn.7tv.app/badge/01GAF95ZTG000E8VNG1S1RMTBB/1x_static.webp is not a valid image

[patent wing]

someone trolled, badges that are not animated do not have a static variant, same with emotes.

should just be 1x.webp

[gaunt magnet]

would be nice if the 1x.webp can be copied to 1x_static.webp in this case

[patent wing]

yeah that needs to be fixed

[gaunt magnet]

that'd be most backwards compatible (for us)

[patent wing]

https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/pull/206 not sure when this will get merged since there isn't really a active dev right now.

[gaunt magnet]

tyvm

[ebon lichen]

.

[rancid tulip]

[vagrant lion]

[waxen sleet]

@rotund pivot
I found what caused [this](#developers message)
It's not because of the viewport and it's related to [this](#1318191472553623624 message)

Also I would love some feedback on my PR just so I can tweak it, even if there is no one to merge it yet

[rotund pivot]

i cant tell you anything about the quality of the code

but the changes look good feature wise

not really sure about the hover to open profile dropdown

but will see how it feels in action

[waxen sleet]

Yeah that's the one I'm most unsure about.

[waxen sleet]

If you want to test them in action you can go to my testing deployment https://seven-tv-testing.vercel.app/

You just won't be able to sign in so you have to manually set your localStorage auth

[tired arch]

[vale smelt]

fake url

[waxen sleet]

What ?

[vale smelt]

someone posted a fake url of steam

mods got him tho

didnt mean you 👍

[waxen sleet]

ohh I see lol

Classic Discord scams

[vale smelt]

yeahh

[waxen sleet]

Is there any documentation on how to setup the image-processor in a local environment ? I wanted to investigate [this](#developers message) issue but I don't know how I can test it locally. There seem to be a lot of dependencies and extra stuff.

[sudden gust]

You can just run it in docker

[waxen sleet]

Yeah, that worked, and then how do I execute a processing job ?

[sudden gust]

you'll have to configure it first. there is an example config in the repo

https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/blob/main/dev/image-processor.toml

then you can send new processing jobs via the grpc api

or you can use the http api

[swift bough]

btw this issue is most likely related to this, meaning that the issue is probably somewhere in the ffmpeg decoder backend, since webp and avif use libwebp and libavif and dont seem to have this issue

[waxen sleet]

Avif does have this issue, But webp does not

[swift bough]

oh

[waxen sleet]

Maybe it could be related to this

[swift bough]

[waxen sleet]

Could you explain a little more how I should go about configuring this please ? I haven't worked with that sort of configuration before

Like where do I put this config ?

[swift bough]

real

[topaz crown]

[mortal fossil]

ryanpotat feels rested: billions must gooning 💤 (7h, 48m ago)

[rotund pivot]

wtf

[topaz crown]

[rotund pivot]

why wont discord autodelete tehm

[topaz crown]

$rafk

[mortal fossil]

ryanpotat, Your AFK status has been resumed.

[swift bough]

[ionic yarrow]

uuh

[swift bough]

turns out it's not related to that, but that does cause (unrelated) issues on some mp4 videos with very small time bases

[waxen sleet]

How did you manage to run the image-processor ?

[swift bough]

i didn't

i just made a new main function, made some stuff in there pub and tested stuff

then i just searched for every instance of duration_ts in the code and found the issue

https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/pull/208 it was just an out of order line

[waxen sleet]

Are there still issues with mp4's even with that fix ?

[swift bough]

yea

[waxen sleet]

Would you mind sharing your main function I'd like to test some things too

[swift bough]

but that would require some big changes to how they handle timestamps in the entire code

[waxen sleet]

yeah ok

[swift bough]

sure its scuffed af tho

fn main() -> Result<(), anyhow::Error>{
    let args: Vec<String> = std::env::args().collect();

    let data = std::fs::read(&args[1])?;
    let mut decoder = FfmpegDecoder::new(
        &Task {
            ..Default::default()
        },
        Cow::Borrowed(&data)
    )?;

    let task_info = Task {
        output: Output {
            formats: vec![
                OutputFormatOptions {
                    format: OutputFormat::WebpAnim as i32,
                    quality: 90,
                    ..Default::default()
                },
                OutputFormatOptions {
                    format: OutputFormat::PngStatic as i32,
                    quality: 100,
                    ..Default::default()
                }
            ],
            resize: Resize::Heights(IntegerList{ values: vec![64, 96] }).into(),
            upscale: true,
            disable_two_pass_decoding: true,
            disable_resize_chaining: true,

            ..Default::default()
        }.into(),
        ..Default::default()
    };

    let mut task = worker::process::blocking::BlockingTask::new(
        &task_info,
        &data
    )?;

    dbg!(decoder.info().timescale);
    while let Some(frame) = decoder.decode()? {
        dbg!(frame.duration_ts);
    }
    while task.drive().unwrap_or(false) { }
    let output = task.finish()?;

    let encoded = &output.output.iter().find(|i| i.format == OutputFormat::WebpAnim).unwrap().data;

    std::fs::write("out.webp", encoded)?;

    let mut decoder = WebpDecoder::new(
        &Task {
            ..Default::default()
        },
        Cow::Borrowed(encoded)
    )?;
    dbg!(decoder.info().timescale);
    while let Some(frame) = decoder.decode()? {
        dbg!(frame.duration_ts);
    }

    Ok(())
}```

[waxen sleet]

lol I wouldn't do better

[swift bough]

tbh just using doubles for timestamps would've been a lot easier to use and less skitzo to read

precisioncels dni

[fluid osprey]

is it possible to add 7tv to kick ?

[waxen sleet]

Yes

There are less features tho

[swift bough]

isnt it already on kick

but like bugged af

[fluid osprey]

how ?

I tried but it says its disabled

[manic torrent]

When it comes to linking your account to kick it is disabled

until kick gives api over

[waxen sleet]

I meant the extension can be added but yeah on the website login is disabled

[fluid osprey]

oh alr ty

[worldly cliff]

@fast bear There’s the same message and link in a few channels

[stuck oasis]

mods afk

[fast bear]

I'm not a mod?

[fluid osprey]

does anyone know why paints and badges are not showing in kick . I added 7tv but still

[rotund pivot]

cause you need to have a kick linked to your 7tv profile

if you dont have it there is no way to do it atm

[fluid osprey]

oh

[grizzled glen]

yo

is it fine if i unlink 7tv from my main acccount and link it to my bot account? just once

not permanently

I would like to like to switch it back to main acocunt later today

[rotund pivot]

you risk bricking your account

either you will make a new 7tv account trying to link

or you wont be able to unlink since it will be your only connection

[grizzled glen]

aight fuck it whatever I'll just make a new 7tv account

-4$

[plush kayak]

making an account is free

[grizzled glen]

well obviously I want it for paints...

maybe not obvious

[stuck oasis]

paints

[mortal fossil]

Hey mzntori, - I just private messaged you 1 private reminder(s) - make sure to check them out!

[sudden gust]

That's no longer a problem on the new site. It won't create an account when you try to link.

[rotund pivot]

oh

kinda sus we still get merge requests tho

maybe theyre just old

[lofty ice]

Im sorry if this is not the channel to ask, but is there a link where I can fetch the global emotes ?

Nevermind I just found it!

[stuck oasis]

its the right channel

[lofty ice]

I have a question, why does WineTime and glorp don't show as emote but the rest does ? (I'm making a chat widget)

Is very weird because the renderText is just literally "WineTime" or "glorp" not the img source

It only happens with those 2 emotes wich are global

[rotund pivot]

are you using this https://7tv.io/v3/emote-sets/global

or maybe you have some conflict with channel emotes

[lofty ice]

not really im using the renderText

from the listener message

wich works for everything but besides those two lol

Instead of this

im getting this

it also happens with the default chat widget of streamelements

[rotund pivot]

since when does it support 7tv

[lofty ice]

no idea lol, but i have another problem now

im trying to get tags to check if the emote is zerowidth, global emote PETPET doesn't have that tag

:c

or is there any way to get that the emote is zerowidth ?

becuase I see some emotes don't have that tag wich is annoying and I see no difference between regular emotes

and zerowidth ones on the api

[lofty ice]

Ohhh the flag 256 means is zerowidth ?

Amazing!

[rotund pivot]

i assume the zero width tags are the ones users put there manually

[lofty ice]

yeah! they are the ones that ppl put manually thats why it was kinda scuffed

thats amazing, thank you!

now I gotta figure out how to put the emote in the middle when the zero width emote is wide Hehe

[rancid tulip]

firefox just turned off my 7tv extension cuz it violates its guidelines

I just remove it for now idk

[rigid narwhal]

It's because of the way updates are loaded in. It's still safe to use

[sterile ginkgo]

uh this is probably a dumb question but is there any 7tv api docs out there? cant seem to find it and idk what the endpoints are

[manic torrent]

https://github.com/seventv/seventv

is this it?

[sterile ginkgo]

currently looking through this lol

i think i found smth

i'm new to all this lol sorry

ty for the help

[manic torrent]

You're good! if you have any questions just ask, we dont care to answer

[sterile ginkgo]

will do

[rotund pivot]

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