#🐣︱classic-role-ideas

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simple lynx
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Stop dude

calm hare
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any role that instantly gives away a killer like that really unbalances the game

upper forge
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%role
"Vloger Goose"
Specialty : Area control
Weaknesses : specific conditions / easily stopped
ABILITY : "Record", places down a video camera that is active for 15 seconds, and needs to be recovered later. the video camera blinks red when its active, and blinks green when done.
the vloger goose then needs to pick it up again, he can then Watch those 15 seconds of footage alone, or. can use his ability in security to upload it to the security cams, replacing one of them with the video, witch can be removed by clicking on an [X] button next to it. it will automatically close after 4 loops
ALSO HIS CAMERA HAS LINE OF SIGHT RESTRICTIONS

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gusty bone
upper forge
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in this case i guess we need a duck version, give me a moment to whip something up

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"Editor duck"
basically has the same ability at the Vloger but can edit his footage to censor characters or the ability to edit cosmetics and colors

gusty bone
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I think that the vlogger goose would be good on it's own if only he could see the footage

upper forge
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maybe the camera could be destroyed by using a kill button on it
[causing the vlogger to have to wait 1 round to fix his camera]

gusty bone
upper forge
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maybe the camera has a 5 [maybe 8] second delay between
Takes footage ----> sends footage

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and when its broken it loses all its footage

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so it couldn't be uploaded

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or something, i dont know.

serene sphinx
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%role Framer Goose--Kills themselves in order to place suspicions on someone.

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sonic prism
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%role Hunter Duck- Has 2 abillities, 1 Places a tracking device on a player that lasts 20 seconds(can see player on mini map) 2 Places a trap that kills a player that steps on it(Once per game has an animation that lasts 2 seconds before placing)

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sonic prism
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Are roles with multiple abillities healthy for the game or should the seperate abillities be improved and be their own roles?

harsh meadow
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%role the seer goose: once per game they can reveal someones role

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wind pine
shadow falcon
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for example checking a party duck will make them see that their vigilante

lost ferry
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Regent Bird- Doesn't remember who they are until they find a dead body to take the role of.

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amnesiac-based role

gusty bone
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%role Deductor Goose
Can investigate one person a round to see two roles that they are not
For example, investigating a Birdwatcher could reveal that they aren’t a Medium or vulture

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harsh meadow
north pewter
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Sheriff can wipe out all the ducks at the cost of probably dying himself, the chances of him getting all of them without getting a goose first is so rare it won’t happen, and if he does begin to become an issue the ducks can kill him

harsh meadow
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but still sheriff can wipe out duck team

north pewter
harsh meadow
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and if the seer reveals something like canadian then boom assasination

north pewter
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I mean the seer can keep the info to himself can’t he?

harsh meadow
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no everyone will see

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it can be confirmable

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it can reveal duck with no effort but same thing with sheriff

north pewter
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Oh then that’s just free assassin food and the role ends up actually being a hinderance to the geese

harsh meadow
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yeah but it can still counter most of the neutrals

north pewter
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If it reveals a duck, ok cool you got a duck but that’s now just the sheriff but again

harsh meadow
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or all

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yeah sheriff can do the same thing

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so why not have another overpowered/underpowered role

north pewter
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Because then that’s 2 overpowered roles that can decimate the duck team and then the entire balance shifts and that leads to its own issues

harsh meadow
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i mean it depends on luck

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both can get ducks geese or neutrals

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and basically ruin their win condition

north pewter
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I suppose but, at this point your stating this like it’s just sheriff but again and at that point it really isn’t a new role

harsh meadow
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i was thinking of making it reveal up to 2 roles but only the seer can see

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so it depends on trust mostly

sinful mortar
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%role Goose Witness: He knows the role of one of the ducks but for no one to trust him he will always appear that he killed to the detective, he always skips, If the sheriff kills him the sheriff does not die, He knows where the bodies are, and etc (Add more suspicious stuff if you want)

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sudden rampart
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its too extreme of a role

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there are 3 ducks in a game, potentially

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so if somoene claims witness, and they claim player A is bad

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the game becomes a simple, albeit high stakes, rock paper scissors of

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kill the witness and player a, and you get rid of a duck

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or maybe there's a dodo

sinful mortar
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%role Cursed Goose: A normal goose that if a duck or hawk tries to kill it it will transform into the role that tried to kill it. This can be very useful for the ducks and hawk when they are alone and it will make them look for the right goose to help them.

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sonic prism
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@sinful mortar I’d say it does too much. Maybe make it so you only have one target and cannot speak so you look like an absolute idiot and have to go out of your way to convince everyone thats someone’s a duck

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void halo
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Specifically, team swapping

zealous scaffold
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this i was a quick idea so i expect it not to be added

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%role Jailor role: maps that have a jail can enable the jailor role in every meeting if atleast 1 other person votes with the jailor they will be jailed if its not a killing vote. options: how many votes needed to be jailed, jailing as jailor is toggle able

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supple lantern
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%role

Secret Agent Goose

During meetings this goose can choose one bird and guess if they are a Goose, Neutral, or Duck... If they are correct their chosen bird goes to jail, if not they themself go to jail.

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sonic prism
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@supple lantern Make it so that it has to be only vote and that sounds fair because you can get called out for being snitch that way

supple lantern
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no ty, the suggestion wasn't about a vote... i wasn't wanting a snitch goose, it was suppose to be a try at deduction... they could even limit the amount of chances

sonic prism
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@supple lantern I know but the way you're saying makes it instantly confirmable and can easily catch anybody by just saying "I'm secret agent if (Player) doesn't go to jail but I do, he's not a goose"

supple lantern
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Not necessarily.. If they limit the votes... plus its a BAD idea to let the ducks know your role... Plus, Its about deduction... If it were vote based then it would leave worse conditions... Lets say you correctly guess the assassin as a duck, but they shoot you... if you got your option in, they go to jail, the snitches target goes to jail, ties go to jail, etc... But leaving it at a vote not only makes a snitch goose, which imo is a bad idea... its not a good thing for a goose to constantly send someone to jail for trolling, hence guessing the role type with limited chances

and you read it wrong... If you go to jail as that role, he is a goose... ITs called a condition for guessing wrong.... If player goes to jail, you just outed your role to the ducks... but lets say you have a room full of 16 players... You could blow your ability by guessing people are geese... If you get lucky and guess...which is where deduction comes in... use an educated guess, like detective has to guess someone after they kill... not just yolo.

and its never a good idea to just say your role, thats how assassin shoots you... plausible deniability bro... the only way they notice without you SAYING anything is if you have 0 votes on you, and you go to jail.

and besides... 99% chance this role will not happen. Pretty sure they said no to a snitch goose ages ago.

gusty bone
# supple lantern %role Secret Agent Goose During meetings this goose can choose one bird and gu...

I’m guessing it’s one guess a game, in witch you’ve just brought back old detective and buffed it to sh*t
You would always have to guess that they were a goose because it’s the only positive option. If you go to jail, they’re an evil role. Choosing an evil one leaves room for them to be the other.
Now, you have a role that can immediately tell if one person is good or bad, with the only caveat being that they can easily out themselves if they’re wrong (no votes and went to jail). Even then, that almost confirms them as the secret agent because they’d be yelling about how X isn’t a goose and that they jailed themselves. Everyone would trust them because it’s a hard role to counterclaim

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Not a bad idea, but would lead to a very linear meta rabbit hole, it works best under one use case and one use case only. Also, it’s only downside (sending yourself to jail) could instantly confirm you if no one votes for you

supple lantern
misty willow
topaz pelican
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I have a suggestion to add a new duck role with the ability to become invisible that disappears once every 50 seconds for 5 seconds. sunglasses

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Also add a new role for the goose called the role mimic so that it can claim the role of another person only once during the game and become its role staring

steep granite
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Both of those ideas have been proposed already mate

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Have not been refused but they've been spoken about

shadow falcon
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if unlimited then that would make him op and expose falcon and duck

topaz pelican
broken wren
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Turkey role. Can only be killed while doing tasks and can only win when they complete tasks

Glitter Goose. When they are killed a cloud of glitter surrounds the area.

wind pine
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For the turkey any roles aren't aloud to have some sort of " shield " to protect them from the killing roles

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And for glitter goose I'm thinking instead Glitter duck it does the glitter cloud whenever they kill and when reported the body is unknown since you know glitter all over body :>

modern nebula
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what of a bread goose role? for 5 seconds the killer has a literal crumb trail?

wind pine
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But only if they killed recently how about that

modern nebula
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the crumb trail lasts until meeting called, but is on the killer's feet for 3-5 seconds then its not on them anymore

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you can see which direction they went but not for very far

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and if they killed in front of someone, they'd see the crumbs on their feet

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A goose so obsessed by bread they carry some EVERYWHERE!

harsh meadow
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%role hunter goose: if they die in a meeting they take someone else down with them, if its a duck/neutral they live (except if its assassin) (if hunter takes down dodo bird dodo bird wins)

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serene sphinx
harsh meadow
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if they get assassinated they wont take someone down with them

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if they take a neutral too that isnt dodo bird they live

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because then dodo bird wins

serene sphinx
# harsh meadow no if they pick a duck they live

Way too powerful; they can call out who they picked once they see that they're getting voted, and they either clear someone else or live and take down a non-goose. And how exactly would the "pick" process happen/work? Sure, ducks can try clearing their partners with it, but there aren't enough other ways to counter it.

merry palm
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A role where you have to touch someone 3 times and they die. Like an actual pigeon but I don't know what to call it. Just an idea.

harsh meadow
zealous flint
zealous flint
deep swallow
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%role
Paranoid goose (goose)

Any buttons activated on it (kill, infect, vig/sheriff kill, etc.), the person who did it would die instead. (Voting doesn’t count)

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calm hare
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I believe that one goes against the whole, "kill button should always work" part of the game. Also a direct copy of the Veteran role from Town of Us

manic vapor
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You mean town of Salem right?

calm hare
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no, i said what i said, just because town of us took it from town of salem doesn't mean it isn't a direct copy either way

chrome dirge
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%role

For the name I'd say like Hummingbird, since we see them color change like every second, I think.

A role that works like assassin, except when they guess their role correctly they can change their role to it.
For instance, you are this role and you guessed who the Vigilante is correctly, then you have the ability to swap your role to Vigilante.

Can swap the role once per game.
Can guess the roles until you swap. Can use the ability once in every meeting until the swap.
If you guess the role incorrectly, you lose the swap ability.

IDK if this should be a duck or goose or neutral. Most probably will start as a neutral and if they swap, they will win with the people. Say you swap to a duck, then you win as the duck by killing. If you swap to Dodo, have to get sussed and get yourself voted out, etc.

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shadow falcon
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what about the person that got swapped as a duck?

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wont they out their own teammate?

chrome dirge
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Uh. So the swap is one-way. So there will be double roles.
Say, you swap to Vigilante, then there will be 2 Vigilantes for the game.
The real Vigilante will remain as them.

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Oh wait.

shadow falcon
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so basically you have a chance to get 2 falcons and 2 dodos and 2 pigeon AND 2 VULTURES

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and 4 ducks

chrome dirge
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No. not AND. OR.

shadow falcon
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ok sorry I meant one of those things

chrome dirge
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yes

shadow falcon
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but dueling dodo will face the third dodo if there is humming bird...because ya know

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but still...2 pigeon, vulture, falcon, or dodo might be a bit diffcult I mean if 2 falcon kill everyone(expect themselves) well 2 falcons win or they have to kill each other?

chrome dirge
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huh?

shadow falcon
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what about pigeon once they infect everyone?
what about the vulture when they eat bodies?

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I mean is it gonna be a race for the neutral to win?

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and the most question is what about the lovers?

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is the humming bird gonna be the third wheel?

chrome dirge
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HAHA. Dang.
Well for the neutrals I was thinking it will be separate.
If they swap to vulture, they have to eat the required number of bodies by themselves.
If the swapped wins, the win will be for Hummingbird.

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I didnt really think about Lovers tho

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Thats a good point

shadow falcon
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I think I much rather the neutral to win themselves than the humming bird stealing their win

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I mean we know about dodo(dueling dodo) but the pigeon infect EVERYONE and including the humming bird to win alone or along and vulture...eating bodies ofc

chrome dirge
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Would it be stealing, cuz they have to do their thing on their own.

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Hummingbird is separate.
They do their own thing.
They win by doing their own thing

shadow falcon
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lovers....dont know...if humming bird dies will the lovers dies?(since the lover loved this person and the other loved humming bird suddenly humming dies will the lover dies?)

chrome dirge
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I think they shouldnt be allowed to transform to lovers.
Cuz if they do, the lovers could know and out them as Humming

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IDK my guy haha

shadow falcon
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ah yes like assassin cannot shoot gravy I see

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but 2 gravys tho...devil

chrome dirge
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Good discussion tho
Yess.

chrome dirge
shadow falcon
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no I meant the money

chrome dirge
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yeah the money for the killer should double, IG

shadow falcon
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but all I say:
I dont want humming bird stealing on the neutrals working to win and humming doing nothin so I want the humming do their own work to win

chrome dirge
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they are.

shadow falcon
chrome dirge
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I mean say the real vulture ate 2 bodies and need 2 more when hummingbird transformed.
Even then, real Vulture gotta eat 2 more, but the Humming gotta eat 4

shadow falcon
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that's good

chrome dirge
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that will be like that.

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same goes for pigeon

shadow falcon
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but...that'll be quick the bodies shortage

chrome dirge
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true. and Canadian?

shadow falcon
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yep

chrome dirge
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and Celebrity

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Fudge

shadow falcon
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so I guess humming should not choose vulture

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so that tips off

chrome dirge
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yeppp.

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I shouldnt have used swap in the role description.
Its not as much swap rather Clone

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Ig, theres much to think about the role

sonic prism
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%role The third wheel
Kind of thought it would be fitting for Valentine’s day
Neutral role thats only goal is to prevent the lovers from winning. Lovers will be told they have 2 targets but if the lovers were to win for any reason the third wheel wins instead. I kind of thought it would be interesting because the lovers would actually have to claim to prevent their team from losing. Basically it’s kind of like mimic but for lovers, and its a neutral dodo

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clear patrol
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%role

Duelist Goose

[Active Ability]
Duration: 15s
Cooldown: 10s
Limit: 3 per game

If a kill attempts is made towards the Duelist Goose, it will kill both the killer and the Duelist Goose.

Why add a role like this?
A role like this would reward correct predictions for when you will die.

Does this role introduce novel gameplay?
I would say yes! This role has so many layers of mental warfare, for example, if you know who the Duck is, but no one else believes you, you can bait them into attacking you, but the Duck might predict this and not attack you>

How would the role affect the meta?
This role would stop ducks from killing whoever puts suspicion on you, and instead suggests for the ducks to make certain that they are not killing an active duelist before they stab. This also makes the option of further deceiving geese to vote them off.

How does the role affect the balance of the game?
This role does not a 1 for 1 trade, instead opting for a chance to kill their killers, and a lower chance to kill a Duck/Falcon due to the fact that vigilante exists.

Is there counterplay to this role?
Like the Canadian, ignoring this role or killing them with an assassin exists, additionally, you could bait out all their charges before you kill.

How complicated is this role?
As I have shown, this role can be summarized into one line.

Does this role fundamentally alter how the game is played?
Nope

Note, I have not played Town of Us and am unaware if this already exists in mods/games similar to that(outside of Town of Salem I am definitely aware that Veteran/Bdoyguard exists but this is different.)

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severe yew
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%role

Mockingbird(goose role)

-Can call one meeting from anywhere on the map
-Can’t vent or call meetings during sabotage
-Can only call their special meeting once per game, it looks like a regular meeting
I figured this would be a way to counteract killers camping the button

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shadow falcon
shadow falcon
gusty bone
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TLDR: good role, but doesn’t quite fit

shadow falcon
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oh

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the Canadian and celebrity?

shadow falcon
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sometimes fail tho sad

peak pecan
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A duck that has to kill before a timer ends or they die?

gusty bone
peak pecan
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Could call it the junkie

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Gotta get the adrenaline fix

gusty bone
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Ooh, Interesting, so it can kill much faster than other ducks, but has to kill within the window

peak pecan
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Yes

sonic prism
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I was thinking why there would be roles with disabilities but this looks really interesting

gusty bone
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Maybe it doesn’t die, and instead reports a random body, that’ll give it a chance to talk it’s way out of dying

peak pecan
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But if no one killed then they cant report

sonic prism
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But then again it doesn’t seem much fun to play if you were to die because of timer you may as well kill in a group to be voted out rather than just die

peak pecan
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Ok then what about a longer kill timer each time you fail to kill?

gusty bone
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What if you can’t kill for the rest of the round?

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So you can stop, but you can’t kill until a meeting is called

sonic prism
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Sounds like a fair punishment

peak pecan
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I could agree to that

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But doesn't seem like a huge punishment

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Well I guess that's the point

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Yeah ok I can agree to that

sonic prism
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I mean you can just call meeting and say pigeon reset to get your kill button back

peak pecan
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Right right

sonic prism
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It also depends how long that the cooldown is reduced for it to the worth the potential downside

peak pecan
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Exactly

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I'd say 5 seconds each time its done successfully?

sinful mortar
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%role Hunter Goose: He has a target (The target has to be a goose) and if the hunter manages to get them to vote for the target he wins. I think this would be fun to make players more afraid to vote. And if your target dies, the hunter turns into a normal goose

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peak pecan
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So 30 second timer, get a kill 25 seconds, get a kill 15 seconds high risk high reward

sonic prism
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@sinful mortar so kind of like executioner but you have to kill someone on your own team?

sinful mortar
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Yes

peak pecan
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So basically the aggressive opposite of dodo

sinful mortar
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Yes

peak pecan
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Interesting

sonic prism
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I think its a lot easier to get someone else voted than yourself

peak pecan
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That's tru but it could be easy to backfire

sinful mortar
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The hunter makes votes difficult

sonic prism
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But they win with the geese?

sinful mortar
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If you target is killed

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If your target stays alive, he only wins by getting people to vote for him.

sonic prism
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Do you get notified about if your target dies when it happens or at the next meeting?

sinful mortar
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Notified

peak pecan
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If yall dont mind I'm gonna offer the role idea to the bot

sonic prism
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Because if you instantly become goose you can just say that your target just died kind of like celebrity but only for you

sinful mortar
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It is true

sonic prism
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So its kind of like team swapping but not really?

sinful mortar
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.-.

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...

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He better know only on the next call

sonic prism
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Alright that sounds better so you cant instantly swap to help the geese that quickly

sinful mortar
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Ye

sonic prism
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Fair

sinful mortar
peak pecan
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%role Junkie Duck: the duck has to kill before a timer runs out, if they kill their kill cooldown lessens each time (example kill timer is set to 30, kill - 25, kill - 20, and so on) but if they fail to get a kill before the kill timer runs out they can't kill till the next round/after a meeting and the kill wait time resets. This forces high risk high reward plays

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shadow falcon
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so basically they got into a sugar rush mode

peak pecan
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Yes

sinful mortar
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What happen if he not kill in the time?

shadow falcon
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he said it

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**but if they fail to get a kill before the kill timer runs out they can't kill till the next round/after a meeting and the kill wait time resets. This forces high risk high reward plays **

peak pecan
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He can't kill until the next round

sonic prism
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He goes to rehab

peak pecan
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^

shadow falcon
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he'll go to brazil

peak pecan
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Oml I didn't even think of it like rehab that makes it even better

shadow falcon
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so is the timer a kill cooldown or is it gonna be a timer in the top ticking

peak pecan
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I imagine the "kill by" timer would be right next to the kill button. Keeping the area you have to move your eyes to check minimal

shadow falcon
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I mean...that's good because whenever I am a killing role I get anxious

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because you know how rage it is when your vigi or sheriff or falcon when a duck came by and kill you

peak pecan
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Right

shadow falcon
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I mean at least I wont be anxious if I will run out of kill

regal oracle
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How about making dodo role not end the game on the spot when winning but instead winning the game but let other still play, with some twist that after the voting its revealed that it was dodo and a random person who voted to eject dodo will get some sort of curse or gets ejected too?
I'm thinking of Jester from Town of Salem, I dont really like the idea that you can so quickly end the game if you guess wrong and eject Dodo sad

supple lantern
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then don't enable dodo

regal oracle
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I'm not always owner of the room to just turn it off just because I want it

supple lantern
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it would make the role no fun if the game continued after you won... it'd be like you lost, nobody would ever want to play as dodo

icy flume
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%role I'm sorry if I somehow broke guidelines...

the owl role, so basically it's like a vigilante but more of a neutral role so the owls goal is to kill and eat one of the ducks to satisfy his hunger as the duck is it's preferable meal because... idfk he feels picky lol. Light sabo does not effect them as most owls are nocturnal and have very good eyesight even in the dark. If they kill a role which is not a duck they'll probably lose (unless the other duck misfires at the duck while friendly fire or mimic is on) because now they can no longer hunt the duck, so they really have to think about it before they kill. So here is two options, either not playable in 1 duck lobbies or the game doesn't end when owl is alive like te falcon.

*** the owl's (neutral role) goal is to hunt one of the ducks while only having one kill***

I'm not sure the feeling is mutual, but I think this would be an interesting role which would pressure the ducks to really be sneaky with their kills. I may edit this if I see a flaw in the writing or the role is unbalanced cuz like I said I think this could be a really cool role

sonic prism
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Looks like falcon but much easier and with a bunch of extra steps

ornate bronze
# icy flume %role I'm sorry if I somehow broke guidelines... the owl role, so basically it'...

Too easy to win in my opinion... with the combination about light sabotage not affecting them (I admit you have a point and good reason why owls should have that feature in the game, but still)... it feels really easy to figure out with time who is the duck and kill.
If they choose a goose|other neutral instead of duck... what happens? They die instead of that person or what?
I personally like the idea, but it kinda feels like falcon mixed with vig|sheriff 🤔

clear patrol
icy flume
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and if they don't kill the impostor they'll just lose I haven't got that part figured out yet but I think yeah, they'd just die if the miss their shot

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so the owl is basically vig sheriff falcon combined in to one

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I don't get how it looks easy

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because even with the ability of seeing in the dark, he still has to near the impostor. If it's figured out one of the impostors they still have to hunt them down and kill and eat them...

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because even they kill if there is a crew nearby and have fast enough reflexes they could report, and then the owl just loses because remember he has ONE shot. (other wise the role would be op)

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it pressures the ducks to be more assuring that no one will see. this is my last message because I am non-intentionally flooding this place with my messages so :P

icy flume
calm hare
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I'd rather the game end with the dodo being voted out than have everyone including the dodo just sitting around waiting for it to end

regal oracle
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the game continues

white karma
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%role
**Role : **Trapper
Team : Duck

Trapper duck can only use ability and doesn't have knife. Trapper can place a bear trap almost anywhere except (emergency area, vent area and task area to avoid camping). Trapper duck can place trap up to 2 area and can be removed anytime as he wish.

Trapper ability : Bear Trap
Use(s) : up to 2 times (Trap can be removed anytime and place at somewhere else)
**Cooldown (Placing Trap) : **20 seconds
Cooldown (Removing trap) : 3 seconds
Cooldown (Removing trap with bodies) : 5 seconds

Winning condition : Same as duck.

Role : Diffuser
Team : Goose

Diffuser goose is the counter version of trapper duck. It allow to remove any trap with the ease.

Diffuser ability : Disarmed Trap
Use(s) : Unlimited
**Cooldown : **10 seconds

Diffuser ability : Defuse bomb (Incase there's a bomber duck)
**Use(s) : **Unlimited
Cooldown : 10 seconds

green nacelleBOT
shadow falcon
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question:
what if the trapper duck used his 2 traps?

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well the trapper have a knife?

white karma
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trapper can't use knife

shadow falcon
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but what happen if he runs out of trap?

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like ya know...if he used up on them

white karma
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it replenish

shadow falcon
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so basically refresh?

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but how will he get traps

white karma
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Let's say he placed 2 trap then he no longer able place another trap unless he recovering it

shadow falcon
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oh you mean removing them...

white karma
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yeah he need to get back from where he placed down

shadow falcon
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wait so your saying:
if the trapper use the traps and the traps did his work he can remove them?

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interesting suspicious

white karma
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yes but risky

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because the body was there so people get sus you out

shadow falcon
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oh so if someone report the body the trapper duck trapped they'll be dead because of the trap?

white karma
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yeap

shadow falcon
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HAHA INTERCOMS AND CAMS TRAP GO BRRR

white karma
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trapper is immune against detective

shadow falcon
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since the traps suppose to be bloody

white karma
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but dodo might gonna have fun with it

shadow falcon
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but the idea putting the intercoms will be a bit funny

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oh...lol I see where this is going

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HEY WHY ARE YOU STANDING ON TOP OF THE BODY
dodo: "uh nothin?"
goose: "pretty sus imma report this suspicious activity"
goose: report and died
goose on cams: "OH SHOOT HE IS A TRAPPER"
dodo: "wait wha?"

white karma
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people gonna place at the corner as it was blind spot

shadow falcon
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ah yes...trapper will be absolute troll

white karma
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trapper also canceled canadian role

shadow falcon
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ah yes the only 3 roles can get rid of Canadian devil

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including celebrity

white karma
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but the trap is friendly fire

shadow falcon
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oh...

white karma
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so duck team has watch their step too

shadow falcon
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that'll discourage me to do tasks as duck or neutral sad

white karma
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but the cooldown kinda big

shadow falcon
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true with 20 seconds

white karma
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40s for 2 trap

shadow falcon
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that's also correct

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but still...I loved to do tasks as a dodo, vulture, pigeon, falcon, duck

white karma
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also when combine with lights out it gonna be mess for sure

shadow falcon
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disappointment but still good idea

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oh...shoot

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what about engines malfalction?

white karma
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It has nothing to do

shadow falcon
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I mean...to make it fair the trap kill 1 person

white karma
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only benefit ith light

shadow falcon
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oh...yea that's true about engines

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anyways I think the trap has to kill 1 person just in case

worldly monolith
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%role
Sculptor (goose)
Passive role, Wins with geese team

Ability: They can make a statue with the same colour as themselves, / as random colour of bird who has been killed previous round or as colour which is not picked. They can hide (in vents and stuff, like mechanic, pigeon and snoop).
!! They can hide only if they have placed the statue !!

Statues: Sculptor can make just one statue at the time. They can replace it once per round. If meeting is called, the statue will reset.
( Place 1× & replace × 1 per round )

  • Ducks can mistake the statue as the goose themselves, so they "kill / destroy it". The "bodies" of statues are similar to the normal corpses. It will disappear after 15-20 second after being destroyed.

__Sculptor goose cannot report bodies. __

Cooldowns etc.:

  • placing statue : 20 sec.
  • taking statue, time before replacing it : 10 sec.
  • Disappearing of the statue - 15 - 20 sec.
  • Can 1 × place a statue (per round)
  • Can 1 × replace a statue (p. r.)

Any questions about the role? Would you add to like something? I'll make sure to answer them as fast as I can!

green nacelleBOT
shadow falcon
worldly monolith
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Yeah ^^

shadow falcon
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%role
name: target(not thought of a name sorry)
team: neutral
goal: know 2 person role and guess
so basically assassin but they are a bit curious...and by curious that they might kill a cat, anyways they try to guess 2 people and win but once the target guessed correctly they die and assassin duck might be alerted that is and if the target guessed wrong they die ofc and so you gonna and if your thinking: can he also guess duck roles? the answer is yes, because why not happy

green nacelleBOT
icy flume
icy flume
mint gale
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We have an idea for a duck that's called the taxidermist

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It's similar in nature but operates entirely different

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Re: Sculptor goose

shadow falcon
icy flume
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what if he had 2 specific targets but had to figure out their role

zenith vortex
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How do you even counter that role tho
You’d have no way of detecting it

shadow falcon
icy flume
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Ik but I am saying that could be a feature to make it more balanced

zenith vortex
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What if those targets die

icy flume
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true

shadow falcon
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yep that's why I didnt say that

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I thought: "why not everyone at least"

icy flume
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but then it's so easy to win

shadow falcon
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yea...true

zenith vortex
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Maybe he have to kill roles

shadow falcon
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what if in the first meeting they vote someone and if they have this person the only one voted then he is your target?

icy flume
shadow falcon
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I mean...if their target dies then they choose a simple acceptable one

icy flume
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yeah there's really no way to target it unless you just recreate the Executioner and make him turn into like a goose if his target dies

shadow falcon
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no

zenith vortex
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Maybe he has a group of roles to choose from?

icy flume
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because no matter what the target COULD die

icy flume
zenith vortex
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yeah but that would mean the target is bad

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and couldn’t find out fast enough

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you’d have to be very unlucky

shadow falcon
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I mean...you can fake claim make the target die to killing role and stuff

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like that's how I counter that role

zenith vortex
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But still this role wouldn’t bring much to the table

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It’s basically another assassin

icy flume
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Okay, imma just say it straight. this role isn't functionable... At all

shadow falcon
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ok I tried sad

icy flume
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Don't feel bad, it is actually probably super hard to find a well made role that doesn't break any of the terms in the guidelines that herbert made

shadow falcon
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I mean yea I aint feeling bad but l am feeling bad that I didnt think of that but still sometimes I usually like neutral roles more than geese and ducks

zenith vortex
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It’s hard to make a neutral with a good win condition

icy flume
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Honestly I really hope my role I made was taken into consideration because to me it seems like it could be really interesting

shadow falcon
zenith vortex
icy flume
zenith vortex
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I wouldn’t see how that’s a neutral

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Killing ducks are very beneficial to the goose team

shadow falcon
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I see...

icy flume
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Wdym

zenith vortex
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Also how do you stop it

icy flume
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It wouldn't be helpful to the geese when it says Defeat Owl Wins

zenith vortex
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What is the counter

shadow falcon
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I mean I did make a role about a ugly duck...dont remember if I got respond

icy flume
zenith vortex
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like as a goose

icy flume
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Be more sneaky and keep an eye out for people who're just standing and staring

zenith vortex
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Yeah but that’s never gonna be enough proof

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and i wouldn’t like the game to end suddenly knowing i had no control of that

icy flume
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And plus, they still gotta kill and eat the body

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if you kill and see someone running to you

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yeah it's obvious they're the owl

zenith vortex
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But as a goose how would you beat it

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Someone walking around isn’t that sus

icy flume
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the owl wont have tasks if you keep an eye out if someone isn't doing anything

zenith vortex
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that could be said for all neutrals and ducks but ok

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And sometimes geese don’t do tasks too

icy flume
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Also

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if you see them just stalking people

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that can also be a sus

zenith vortex
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How is that sus

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Geese stalk people all the time

icy flume
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but not all game

zenith vortex
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It’s basically a sheriff that can win the game easier

icy flume
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and you have to remember if he misfires he just loses

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he has one kill

zenith vortex
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I don’t think thats a fun role
To play as and to play against

icy flume
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I would have loads of fun to play against imo

fiery acorn
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quick question did you check the document in the pinned post @icy flume ?

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no judgement or anything just wondering

icy flume
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would you believe a yes cuz tbh I just skim read I wasn't about to read an entire essay

fiery acorn
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ahhh... ya.. got it.

icy flume
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I made it at like 3am so I was already tired

analog socket
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Upgrade Detective Role:
Detective Goose now can check who be silenced by Silencer Duck or got high pitched by Party Duck (ingame)

icy flume
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that would kinda ruin silencer and partyduck cuz you wanna silence or party (imma roll with that lol) in big groups so if you're a part of that it would be easy to decipher who silencedor partied

ornate bronze
supple lantern
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%role

Platypus, Neutral... This creature uses its unique form to disguise itself as a bird, though they aren't. -- Falcon Alternative

Instead of flat out killing, they tag their targets... who do not die right away. Instead once a meeting is called, their targets avatar panes start filling up with green liquid... once voting time starts those victims die. Affected victims do not know they are about to die but the others in the meeting do.

Ability CD should be as long if not longer than Professional, to allow for a couple tags at most per round.

green nacelleBOT
sudden rampart
gusty bone
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Maybe it kills them at the very end of the voting cycle, and if the platypus is voted out in that round, all currently tagged players are saved (they don’t die)

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That could make it so that if everyone remembers who passed them, the platypus could be an easy find. But if people are clueless, then it has very potent killing potential

clear patrol
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%role

Tripwire Duck

Instead of sabotaging, the Tripwire duck can, as the name suggests, set up a tripwire spanning two surfaces of their choice by running up to one wall, using their tripwire button, running up to another surface, and using the tripwire button again. If the tripwire is too long, or if the tripwire attempts to go through an object with a collision, it breaks.

the Tripwire Duck will be alerted when a non-duck crosses the tripwire, but not who.

Using your kill button on the tripwire arms it, killing the next person to walk across it(excluding ducks and the mimic), and then breaking the tripwire. Kills made using a tripwire do not activate the canadian's ability.

To destroy the tripwire, use the tripwire button.

Tripwires are barely visible to non-ducks due to it being mostly translucent, but are completely visible to ducks.

TL;DR: The Tripwire Duck sets up a tripwire and gets information for when it get crossed. They can also make the tripwire lethal by attacking it.

Why add a role like this?
A role like this would reward smart placement and correct predictions of where people frequently travel.

Does this role introduce novel gameplay?
I would say yes! I am personally a fan of setting traps and using information wisely, and I can not stop giggling at the thought of a bunch of people just walking over an area and one of them randomly dying.

How would the role affect the meta?
This role will affect the meta by indirectly nerfing roles which wander a lot(like Dodos, Mediums, and Vultures), and buffing roles which can vent.

How does the role affect the balance of the game?
I say this role barely affects the balance.

Is there counterplay to this role?
The counterplay of this role is simply spotting a tripwire and just not touching.

How complicated is this role?
Summary in two lines: The Tripwire Duck sets up a tripwire and gets information for when it get crossed. They can also make the tripwire lethal by attacking it.

green nacelleBOT
fossil zealot
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%role

Honey badger

You have a unique skill to use. When using a skill, you are invulnerable for 5 seconds, regardless of whoever killed you during the time you were using the skill. They will be the ones who will die for you instead. You can use this skill continuously with a cooldown of 15 seconds to reactivate.

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  • You cannot use skills at meetings.
  • You will be killed 1/2/3 times depending on the player role that can kill 2/4/6 other players (3 ducks, falcon, sheriff and vigilante).

Why add a role like this?
Because I think this role can enhance this game more than ever and create a new kind of play for some roles.

What is the reason for adding this role?
In the last 3 months I've played countless times. And I've found that too often people die unexpectedly early in the game. This made them not enjoy. This role that I came up with would be something that would enhance that section without sacrificing too much of the enemy's abilities.

How would the role affect the meta?
I don't think this role will affect META much as I have designed it to not be too easy to play. Since this role has immortality, I've also reduced the immortality section there for the satisfaction of many roles.

How does the role affect the balance of the game?
I say this role barely affects the balance.

Is there counterplay to this role?
You can kill this role when they don't use a skill or wait until their skill expires. Even an assassin duck could kill him in the middle of the meeting without any consequences. This role has more weaknesses than you think, even though it is immortal.

How complicated is this role?
It's not too complicated so far, I try to design it to be as easy to understand and as fun as possible.

If you see any bugs in this role I created please clarify to me I would be very grateful for that, thank you for reading till the end, I'll see you later

green nacelleBOT
sinful mortar
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%role Goose Witness:

He knows the role of one of the ducks but cannot reveal this as when the last duck is being voted he can try to guess who is the witness and if he hits the ducks win.

Why add a role like this?: This role can be fun and tricky to play because you are the only one who knows the duck but you have to tell the right people or the ducks win

Does this role introduce novel gameplay?: Yes because the role can help both geese and ducks it all depends on who will know the role

How would the role affect the meta?: it will affect a lot because different roles like the sheriff and the mortician only hide their role when there is a murderer, the witness goose will have to hide it very well during the entire game.

How does the role affect the balance of the game?: Affects the balance a lot because if someone doesn't know how to hide well they will make the ducks win but you can nerf the role if you want

Is there counterplay to this role?: All ducks are counterplays for this role

How complicated is this role?: The role is simple to explain but playing using it can be quite difficult

green nacelleBOT
sudden rampart
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this has no counter, because you have no way to tell when the honey badger is using their ability, and you just die

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and if it did have an identifiable feature, then it breaks the social deduction aspect in the sense that everyone would instantly know that this player was the honey badger

gusty bone
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Also, geese should always have to work to get information. The ducks best ability is how they know who’s a duck (or mimic) and can use that to their advantage. The geese should always have some feeling of unsureness when voting, and all incriminating geese roles have a plausible way to talk their way out of it.

green nacelleBOT
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Sorry, I couldn't find a command or game object that matches: `%Neutral Hater role:

The hater has a target if he makes them vote for his target he wins but if his target is killed he will turn into a normal goose

Why add a role like this?:
This role can make it difficult for votes like the dodo to make them unfollow the votes so easily

Does this role novel introduce gameplay?:
Yes a new neutral can make the game more difficult and I would love another role that wins by votes

How would the role affect the meta?:
It will affect a lot but in a good and fun way

How does the role affect the balance of the game?: Will affect the game the same amount as the dodo affects

Is there counterplay to this role?:
There are two counerplays for the hater: It can be very difficult for them to vote for your target and if your target dies you will become a useless goose

How complicated is this role?:
The role is not as complicated as THE WITNESS because the hater wins alone if they vote for his target and wins with the geese if his target dies`

sinful mortar
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a

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%role Hater role:

The hater has a target if he makes them vote for his target he wins but if his target is killed he will turn into a normal goose

Why add a role like this?:
This role can make it difficult for votes like the dodo to make them unfollow the votes so easily

Does this role novel introduce gameplay?:
Yes a new neutral can make the game more difficult and I would love another role that wins by votes

How would the role affect the meta?:
It will affect a lot but in a good and fun way

How does the role affect the balance of the game?: Will affect the game the same amount as the dodo affects

Is there counterplay to this role?:
There are two counerplays for the hater: It can be very difficult for them to vote for your target and if your target dies you will become a useless goose

How complicated is this role?:
The role is not as complicated as THE WITNESS because the hater wins alone if they vote for his target and wins with the geese if his target dies

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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%role Silly goose

Told they are a different role at the start although the abilities don’t work as intended such as technician having random locations when sabotages occur or as a Canadian making a random person report. The silly goose can see people with the wrong appearances, unable to see people or see copies of people running around and hear prox chat of people regardless of how close they are to you.
I just thought although handicapped roles aren’t fun but you can be so out there that people don’t even think you’re dodo but rather the silly goose.

green nacelleBOT
sudden rampart
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we've considered stuff like this before.. i do think seeing fake roles and stuff is a way to go

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probably wouldn't call it psychopathic goose

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or really any name that disparages the neurodivergent either

sonic prism
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“Guys guys I saw yellow right there”
“Uh no he was with all of us you silly goose”
PERFECT

turbid plaza
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%role The Listener role:

The Listener hears when a Goose/Duck dies, a Honk will be heard and your Minimap will show you a Large Rectangle of a Range of where the Body is, It also plays a special Animation of the Goose listening the Death.

Why add a role like this?:
This role can make it slightly difficult for Ducks to easily kill and hide the Body.

Does this role novel introduce gameplay?:
Yes a new neutral can make the game more focused on Mystery and and more interactive with the Minimap.

How would the role affect the meta?:
It will affect a lot in a good and interesting way!

How does the role affect the balance of the game?: Will affect the game as much as the Technician.

Is there counterplay to this role?:
There is one Counterplay which is Sabotaging, It causes the minimap to loose the Body's Information

How complicated is this role?:
The role is simple to learn as a Notification Appears on your Minimap informing you on a possible area they died in.

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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Medium getting curb-stomped the fourth time this week

turbid plaza
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  • just noticing the fact about the Medium *
north pewter
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wait is that a neutral role?

wind pine
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Sorry if this role had already been rejected a while ago but I keep thinking about some sort of goose that can see while the light Sabo has been activated they can activate they're role of night vision and see the entire screen? ( Not around walls ) but they can't see the colours of people because they have night vision

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So shortened up they can make it so they see in the dark while light sabotage has been activated but while it's activated they have monovision

gusty bone
# turbid plaza %role The Listener role: The Listener hears when a Goose/Duck dies, a Honk wil...

I personally disagree with the “only effects it as much as technician” statement
What you have there is a Medium and Buffed Technician rolled into one.

  • it knows the general area where deaths happened
  • it knows precisely when the death happened
    Killing is the main way for ducks to win, and we already have Canadian and celebrity to make ducks be hesitant with their kills. Adding a role that can actively find bodies easily would make the rounds look like this:
  • Duck kills
  • Duck dashes for vent
  • Duck vents to the other side of the map
  • Listener goes over to the body
  • no one has any info for the meeting
    It’s a strict meta at best and takes some of the steam out of other roles with it’s enhanced ability to find corpses (detective especially)
fossil zealot
lavish craterBOT
void halo
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For example, if your suggested role is just that your geese can have a burst of speed.. Well that seems simple enough, and maybe not overpowered. Except it violates the social deduction factor, and everyone will immediately know that this player is a ‘Fast Goose’.

deep swallow
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%role
Haunter (Duck)
Can posses someone and crack (quack) their neck, but only once.
Can’t sabotage

green nacelleBOT
analog spire
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Now that I think about it, why doesn't the demolitionist just give someone a bomb to defuse or pass onto someone else by way of contact instead of making it a sabotage?

fossil zealot
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%role

Honeybadger ( updated version 0.2 )

You have a unique skill to use. When using a skill, you are invulnerable for 5-15 seconds, regardless of whoever killed you during the time you were using the skill. They will be the ones who will die for you instead. You can use this skill again after the next round of meetings.

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  • You cannot use skills at meetings.
  • You will be killed 1/2/ times depending on the player role that can kill 1-3/4-6 other players (3 ducks, falcon, sheriff, and vigilante).

Why are you designing a role?

I'm one of those who have been playing this game for a long time. And I think it's great that I can be a part of creating new roles without being too harsh and being able to make other players enjoy the game even more. This is the main reason I try to offer roles in a format that I think will look good on other players.

Does this role introduce novel gameplay?

I think it might be correct. I think killing someone in this game sometimes doesn't make sense. But sometimes we're not happy when we face things like that. This pavement I designed could be one of those roles that will help make the killing fairer in this game. And of course, I'm very challenging this.

How would the role affect the meta?

I don't think this role will affect META much as I have designed it to not be too easy to play. Since this role has immortality, I've also reduced the immortality section there for the satisfaction of many roles. If you count numbers accurately and are not too careless. This role will not affect you at all.

How does the role affect the balance of the game?
I say this role barely affects the balance. I've added key elements that will allow you to decide if the geese you're killing is the one you shouldn't kill, let's think.

green nacelleBOT
fossil zealot
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%role

TL;DR:
Is there counterplay to this role?

When Honey uses a skill. Every player in the game will receive a 1 second sound notification. Players with the ability to kill other players will have the option to determine if the player you are about to kill is Honey.

This skill will let everyone know that you are activating the skill. I designed Honey's abilities to occur randomly from 5-15 seconds to compensate for this weakness. If the duration of the skill is fixed at 5 seconds, this role will be very difficult to play. I did this to make the player hesitant to kill because if the player is going to kill someone. They only have to count their own time. (Random chance to use abilities 65%/25%/10% per 5/10/15s random duration)

Because this role is similar to Canadians. So when you add this role to both at the same time. It will only have a chance to occur in one role (if we've both of these roles. It's probably too hard for other players)

How does this affect existing roles?

The entry of this role gives players the ability to kill others. They will be slightly more difficult to moderate. But with the many limitations I've created, this role won't make such a huge impact that it alters the importance of the game and compromises the capabilities of the other roles. Thank you.

How complicated is this role?
If you're offered this role, just keep yourself appetizing and use your talents and luck to the fullest. Other personalities, be careful. If you count the numbers well, this role will do nothing for you.

If you see any bugs in this role I created please clarify to me I would be very grateful for that, thank you for reading till the end, I'll see you later

green nacelleBOT
calm hare
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I mean it's an interesting idea but 1. Honey badgers are not birds, and 2. The kill button should always work

fossil zealot
# calm hare I mean it's an interesting idea but 1. Honey badgers are not birds, and 2. The k...

For a first one, I know honey Badger isn't a bird. Personally, as someone who likes novelty, this is one of my opinions. I'd love to add something new to the game, even if it seems weird but I think it is not a bad idea if we're going to introduce something new. If we limit our own frame of mind Some creative works just might not happen.

For a second, I've tried simulating the events in my head. If this role can use the skill at any time It will make other killable roles very difficult to play. And it will change the game style too much. So I designed it to be immortal only temporarily.

gusty bone
# fossil zealot For a first one, I know honey Badger isn't a bird. Personally, as someone who li...

For a kill to work, the closest person to you has to die. If they don’t, or you die instead, or they come back to life in some way, the kill didn’t technically work. The devs want kills to work because it’s the main feature of the ducks. Every role can be killed at any time by a duck, having a notification that kills aren’t working right now still means that that is someone who can’t be killed.

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Also, the naming conventions exist for a reason, all geese and ducks are labeled on the teams they’re on, and all neutrals are named around their abilities (vulture eats bodies). What you described sounds like a geese side role because you didn’t give it a win condition, but having a neutral sounding role be on one of the sides causes a lot of confusion.

Finally, if the game were to be breaking its conventions at the drop of a hat, I don’t think it have the same charm it does now. There’s a crap ton of birds, most of which no one’s even thought about using for their role name.

sonic prism
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%role Ugly Duckling(neutral)

The goal is to simply live to see the geese lose by any method. Despite the name you are not recognized by the ducks and you do not know them. However they have a once per game ability that reveals their role to everybody close to them.

So basically duck #4 but no killing and there is a risk in confirming yourself

green nacelleBOT
storm crescent
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I'm having some troubles researching about Sparrows. Its in-game ability and such. You guys have something about it?

sudden rampart
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there are no sparrows in the game

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i dont understand what you're talking about

steep granite
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translator 100

barren vessel
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%role Curse Duck
A duck that have a special button that if you meet someone can curse them and make him turn to a normal duck(everyone can know that if u curse someone, maybe in the meeting)

green nacelleBOT
mint gale
barren vessel
mint gale
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Ahh, its just that the name is curse duck

barren vessel
steep granite
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Most of us probably are

dense gyro
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%role Witchdoctor Duck (WitchDUCKtor)

The Withchdoctor can take a sample of any player to incorporate into a Vodoo doll. They can use said doll to kill the sampled player at any time between meetings. This can be done once or twice per game. Using this ability resets the normal kill timer.

If the Canadian is killed by the Witchdoctor's ability, then a meeting is called and no player is labeled as the one who initiated the meeting.

The Mortician can determine if someone was killed via the Witchdoctor's ability upon inspection of the body.

green nacelleBOT
shut turtle
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%role Doctor Goose: The doctor goose can 1x per game heal a player and that player cannot be killed by ducks, the victim wont know if they got attacked but the ducks will know if their kill fails cuz of the doctor.

green nacelleBOT
lavish craterBOT
shut turtle
steep granite
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just no failed kills

shut turtle
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oh k

void halo
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Reading the attached document is a good start to creating role ideas that could possibly work

shut turtle
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do u guys accept role rework suggestions here?

sudden rampart
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im getting the impression that you haven't read the document sl1myoshi

shut turtle
sudden rampart
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its cool

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but it also means that none of your suggestions can ever be used

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but feel free to suggest whatever you want to existing roles here

shut turtle
fossil zealot
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%role

Crow [ neutral ]

Crows are intelligent creatures. But how can I use it in the game? I've read one of Aesop's fables about the intelligence of the crows. I remember that the fabled crow was thirsty. The crow found some water in the bottom of the jug. Then it demonstrated its ability by bringing gravel into it until the water level rose. myself who read this story and some research I concluded that crows are quite intelligent birds and I think It would be a good idea to make a crow show off its abilities in this game.

What I had in mind was that crows were intelligent creatures. The role I think I'm going to put in the game has to be one that only has to be smart to win this role. It must be a distinctly different way of winning. So I'm here to show you how to win by matching factions in this game.

Examples of abilities:

  • Match 2/3/4 times per game in the meeting to win. Duck-Duck/Geese-Geese/Neutral-Neutral You can also catch a geese-geese 3 times. whichever you choose, The number of matches depends on the players in the room 5-8 / 9-12 / 13-16

  • When you match correctly You won't know what role they both play and you won't be able to use them for a second time.

  • You can match yourself with other players as well.

  • Other players won't know who you matched with. But when you matched correctly, Notifications will be sent to every player in the game.

  • You can't match up if no one dies yet ( I reduced the role ability )

  • You can match 2 times per meeting. if you match correctly, you will not be able to match again. but if you match wrong you can bring one of two players you previously selected as one of the matchmaking options again.

This role cannot kill anyone and can be killed by other players as usual. if you are given this role, You have to survive for longer gameplay to collect data and find your way to victory.

Reveal your intelligence in matching and take your victory

green nacelleBOT
fossil zealot
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%role

TL;DR:
Why are you designing a role?
I like new ways of playing. This is one of the ideas I came up with. It should create a fun and new way of playing for every player. My design basis is that the characters have to be balanced and fun to play.

Does this role introduce novel gameplay?
Absolutely yes, I'm sure it is.

How would the role affect the META?
I don't think this role will have much impact. Each time this role is matched correctly. Every player in the room got into a bit of chaos and tried to take the role away. This might be good for the ducks and the neutral. But I don't think this role will make such a huge impact that it will change the way to play this game.

How does the role affect the balance of the game?
This role can have a slightly positive effect on the ducks and the neutral. Because if the player in this role is close to winning. Most players will deviate and try to find the crow first. This gave the duck and other roles a slight advantage.

Is there a counterplay to this role?
The way to counter this role is that you will be more investigated by other players when you match too accurately or come close to winning. Most players will try to find you more and that means more chances of you accidentally doing something weird. I don't know how they will find you. But trust me, you're going to be under a lot of pressure. If you are not calm enough You can become a suspect.

How does this affect existing roles?
This role doesn't have much impact on other roles except when it does a good job. I mean when it does match a lot. Most people will become less interested in the killer and try to find the crow first.

How complicated is this role?
This role is not very complicated. All you have to do is find information. Separate your thoughts and match them correctly. And in case you're lazy, You might as well make a random guess.

I hope this role will be well received and it will be one of your choices, thank you.

green nacelleBOT
sudden rampart
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called the magpie

pseudo coyote
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name: glasses goose
ability: can see who a person votes next round based on if they used the ability on them
draw back: if votes are visible (not including colourblind) then this role is always turned off similar mimic

pseudo coyote
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the other idea was that it shows the vote to everyone

fossil zealot
pseudo coyote
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probably gonna be my new favourite role just like falcon

sonic prism
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The doc's a bit unclear on interactions with the dead. It's understandable that living people cant do anything with dead people but is any interaction from the dead people to the living ruled out besides dead ducks doing sabotages?

sudden rampart
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its more the reverse

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dead -> living we try to be careful about, because dead players have some indication of who players are

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what roles they are rather

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which is problematic if you can just point out a duck is a duck to the geese team, for example

sonic prism
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I was going to suggest a duck that has a one time abillity to take control of someone for like 15 seconds or does that violate the being unable to do what you want concept?

void halo
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You're taking away someone's agency, which is a general no-no

sonic prism
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Yeah makes sense

void halo
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While it is (almost) never fun to be killed, I imagine it would be especially unfun to lose control of your bird for 15 seconds while watching yourself walk to the departure bay and get run over by the shuttle

sonic prism
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Oh shoot I forgot about that

sudden rampart
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that literally has its own section

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in the document

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lol

sonic prism
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Ill just see myself out

void halo
queen cape
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Watching the beta testing games right now and a comment just gave me this idea. The Informant -> Goose role, has a cooldown and effective time similar to medium. A role that, when activated, lets the user hear a duck talking for a brief time. The catch is the voice is pitched/distorted similar to being partied. The will give a potential hint as to who a duck is, if they talk, but the pitch will hide their voice enough to not be overpowered.

sudden rampart
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thats an interesting idea

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i feel like that might be difficult to fine tune the distortion, but its a neat idea

shadow falcon
clear patrol
shadow falcon
sonic prism
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%role Task Toucan(probably a lot better names)

Neutral and its only goal is to finish all of its tasks. The amount would be about 3-5x the goose amount but it should probably be around 15 to 20. The tasks do not help the geese get closer to win but it does move the task bar. The alarm gets triggered when the toucan has 3 tasks left in a similar manner to the falcon. It would introduce new strategies because it encourages the geese to hurry up faster and not save tasks for later as well as non geese to not stick around faking tasks for too long.

green nacelleBOT
clear belfry
void halo
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If the Toucan's tasks don't affect a Goose win, I don't think it makes sense for them to affect the task bar

clear belfry
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I'm sure that the devs can work out any kinks to the role but the general idea sounds pretty cool

sonic prism
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Thanks

void halo
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I like the role, just that one part I don't think makes sense thumbsup

sonic prism
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@void halo I thought if the bar moved it helps the toucan blend in more

clear belfry
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maybe instead of moving the bar it is a role that can only be active when the bar only moves at meetings or when the bar is not activated

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kind of like how party can only work with rooms that have a mic

void halo
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Yeah most lobbies I play have the task bar to only update after meetings

sonic prism
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Ok that sounds better I was thinking about it with live bar in mind

void halo
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So it could maybe be setting-specific

wind pine
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How about if the host has it so that the taskbar updates after a meeting ( the usual ) but for those few who might play with it being live they can change it in the settings if the toucan has their " tasks " contribute to the bar or not

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Simple :)

sonic prism
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%role Shifter Goose
Has an ability that makes itself invisible to non geese for 10 seconds. Probably could have interesting implications such as following another goose while invisible to set up a trap for the ducks

green nacelleBOT
lavish craterBOT
sudden rampart
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i like how the bot automatically says no

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there's no counterplay to an invisible role right now

sonic prism
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Yeah thats true. At least mechanic is predictable, this not so much

clear patrol
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%role

Retributionist Goose

Gains an ability from the dead.

When the Retributionist use their ability, all dead get a voting screen, consisting of every ability from a dead person, where they can vote on an ability for the Retributionist Goose to get, if a vote ties, the Retributionist will use all abilities tied simultaneously.

The Retributionist Goose does not know the ability they get, and can use it whenever. The ability will be wasted if it could not be used in that scenario.

Abilities with two stages(such as Morphling ability), passive abilities(such as Sheriff dying if they kill incorrectly), or abilities which occur in meetings(such as the Assassin), are excluded from the list.

You can only give this role the kill ability once.

Cooldown: Once per round

Why add a role like this?
A role like this would just be bloody hilarious and would also gain some information from who is dead.

Does this role introduce novel gameplay?
This gameplay would be absolutely hilarious and would prove useful if given the right abilities.

How would the role affect the meta?
This role would buff suicidal roles such as lovers, bodyguard, sheriff, etc and nerf roles which rely on living till the end of the game such as the Gravy goose.

How does the role affect the balance of the game?
This role would make roles with no active abilities on the goose side weaker(such as the lover and the bodyguard).

Is there counterplay to this role?
The counterplay happens in killing roles with weaker abilities.

How complicated is this role?
Not very, you get ability from grave, and get to use ability

green nacelleBOT
gusty bone
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Other than that I enjoy the concept

sonic prism
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Thats true. Even without role reveal the dead people can say what they were but I like giving dead people some interactivity to help(or completely destroy) someone

storm crescent
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What if there's a power that can neutralize all kinds of roles? Like when activated to a goose/duck, that goose/duck can't activate their kill or skill button. It's like Silencer, but a Neutralizer. Also, I'm thinking it is either make a role for this power or add it to the existing.

sonic prism
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Its in the doc

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It’s not a good feeling to have your ability disabled

lavish craterBOT
lethal leaf
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%role
Zombie goose - You have 2 lifes. If someone try to kill you for the first time you dont die (normal kill) and you dont know if someone tried to do this (the cooldown restarts to the killer), you'll only know if you have only one life while meetings, if you die to a trap or a bomb you cant use that ability, will instantly. If a sherrif try to kill you he dies and you don't, but the next kill you die (basically you became a normal goose)

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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Cant do immune roles

gusty bone
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Kills always have to “work”, meaning that you can’t have a role that directly stops kills from happening

lethal leaf
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oh ._.

lavish craterBOT
sudden rampart
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stan

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for someone who posts as many role ideas as you do, you gotta look at the document lol

sonic prism
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How about a duck passively able to see at a much larger vision and able to see through walls and vents, although unable to see colors through those obstacles. I wouldn’t think an improved birdwatcher would be too nuts for the ducks and vent detection would keep mechanic and pigeon from hiding too often

void halo
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At that point, why not just give them player markers on the map

sinful mortar
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And if you buff the birdwatcher so he can see through walls passively when standing still. if this is too op it's better for him to see everything gray while he sees through the wall

This would make the birdwatcher much more useful as I've never seen any player doing anything useful for the game using the role skill

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Seriously I hate birdwatcher

void halo
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Birdwatcher originally was always in flashlight-mode able to see through walls. There were riots in the streets.

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Birdwatcher in its current state requires a high-skill player to utilize the ability well

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Knowing where popular kill spots are, using it to spy on sab tasks, etc

sinful mortar
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That's why I don't know how to use

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.-. }

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But does it have to be so little vision time?

zealous vigil
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I think that there should be a role to resurrect someone but they can't talk or text in game

lavish craterBOT
cosmic karma
clear patrol
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The name and general theme I got from ToS, but the mechanics are fundamentally different

frigid grove
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%role
crow (mob):
neutral,no skill.
win's condition : induce gooses kill or vote out gooses.(complete one to win)
＊newest dead player is a goose and was killed by goose(include suicide,not include lover) or voted out,cause number of live gooses is lower or equal to number of live non-gooses.
＊vote out a goose in the end of meeting which was started by crow.

green nacelleBOT
clear patrol
frigid grove
slow grotto
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%role
Raven (neutral)
Win the game by killing other birds with traps.

skills
-replacing the kill button you have a set trap button, when used you take a 3 seconds delay to set a hidden trap
-replacing the sabotage button you have a set off trap button, when used you pull out your detonator (just like the ducks sabotage menu) to detonate one of your traps, killing the bird who is closest to it (killing range matchs the ducks range).

closer look at the mechanics:

  1. you have to gather the traps through tasks before being able to set them
  2. you can have up to 3~4 traps at a time
  3. other birds don't see your trap until they are on top of it, being then able to disarm them with a task, just like a sabotage.
  4. your traps become visible after you set them off (even if the don't kill anyone) or they get disarmed.
  5. you don't get your traps back until the next meeting.
  6. traps appear on the Raven's map as red dots, like sabotage tasks

How that role impacts the game?
As the trap works like a sabotage, it won't be easy for the geese to find out who is the Raven, bringing a new way of deduction to find out the culprit, like watching for who was around the place where the trap was found, or using the Technician skill after a detonation.
The Raven have to be careful where he set his traps, as he might be seen through a camera or by a mechanic/duck/pigeon hidden in the vents, and getting his traps disarmed before he can set them off. It also don't have any way to know if there is someone next to a trap unless he is nearby or looking through a camera. So he have to find a way to watch his traps.
Geese might slow down their tasks in order to look out for traps nearby so they don't get killed right away. Ducks might do the same to avoid dying while doing their sabotage tasks
The geese have to be careful about seeing someone getting away from a trapped place, as it might be the dodo risking his life to trick the geese into voting him out

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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Do you have to survive till the end like falcon or just get a certain number of kills with the traps?

slow grotto
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survive

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i think that getting a number of kills might be hard as your traps can be disarmed or avoided once found

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and as the ducks and falcon might kill to often you wouldn't get enough kills to win

lavish craterBOT
honest knot
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%role
Judge goose
Can send anyone to jail for how ever long they want during meetings and they can only do it once per game

green nacelleBOT
honest knot
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Kinda similar to snitch duck

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Didn't really think about that

north pewter
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Sounds funny, but I could see that being abused for trolling really easily

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That and being able to shut down any suspect with no punishment is pretty overpowered

sonic prism
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%role Executioner goose

Able to kill twice with no consequences but only on the birds that have been sent to jail that round

green nacelleBOT
indigo slate
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%role
Vigilante Rework- You can Kill One Bird per Round

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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Isn’t the point of vigilante is to have a less risk low reward sheriff. This just allows you to blast some random guy, report it and repeat

whole widget
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I like how the old Detective functioned

steep granite
sonic prism
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@steep granite Once per game rather than per round and it checked if the bird killed during the game instead of the round

mint gale
whole widget
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that's fair enough, I can respect that you listen to your player base

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just seems like a very rare chance to detect someone who killed in the same round

clear patrol
mint gale
whole widget
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agreed

gusty bone
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Then again I feel it adds more strategy than “dear god don’t die”
I like the new detective better because it feels like I’m doing things, and not just sitting around, waiting for a 1f1 to start so I can Inv someone (and get assassinated)

sonic prism
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New detective doesn’t work well because if I see somebody run by and then I find a body from the other direction where he came from, I don’t need an ability to tell me its likely him. Old detective has a high skill ceiling because its a one and done but it has great payoff.

gusty bone
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Sure, but I’d say that the high skill ceiling isn’t gone with the new detective. Now you have the ability to confirm one person every round instead of every game. If you find someone inno/guilty, you have a better ability to withhold that information now that you can just investigate them again later, with the old one you almost always had to report what you saw. While it might be less reliable than old detective, it has the power to be even more potent in the right hands.

sonic prism
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I think I’m treating new detective too harshly especially because it’s definitely more new player friendly. Can’t remember how many times someone checked someone the first round because they didn’t know what it does and can’t do anything the rest of the game.

storm crescent
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Joke Idea
Booze Geese (Geese)
What can it do?

  • Can give someone one Booze per game.
  • The Booze effects include drunkenness either on screen, meetings, or voice. (You decide if one, two or all)
  • The Boozed Duck/Geese will vote randomly in meetings.
  • After meeting, the Boozed Duck/Geese will turn back to normal.
sonic prism
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%Idea Snatcher duck
When morphing into someone isn’t enough, with the snatcher you can use your ability on a body once and after a delay become that player and their body becomes your color. Able to use the ability of the player you swapped with once(if applicable) Probably not the best for mic lobbies but it could be fun in chat lobbies although people would probably troll to get someone reported. Could open up strategies to suddenly become a trusted goose and counterplay if clever players spot that an active player suddenly becomes quiet in chat. It isn’t a clone of morphling because instead of framing somebody else you have to look as innocent as possible when you transform to someone else

green nacelleBOT
frigid grove
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%role

Skua
team:neutral
win's condition :be alive when the game ends by any other team's outnumbering.
skill：steal a player's role skill in game space(not steal team style)once a game.
steal will effect at next meeting.
team style won't change when you steal goose or duck.
if steal a goose,that goose become a no-role goose.
if steal a duck,that duck become a no-role duck.
if steal a no-role player,nothing happened.

host setting options
if steal a neutral
-you steal its whole role,that neutral become a skua.
-you steal its skill(it won't have any skill but still have to finish it's win's condition) and become it's teammate,you have to finish it's win's condition and win with that player.

green nacelleBOT
lavish craterBOT
sonic prism
spiral merlin
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What about a duck role that can drag bodies, call it the grave digger

mint gale
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Undertaker would be an alternative cannibal

sonic prism
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I know the general consensus on roles is that if you don’t like it you can keep it off so the people that do enjoy it can use it, but then why did detective get nerfed? You guys seems fond of it especially how its a great example of a late game role with a high impact.

mint gale
royal geyser
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%role
Artist Duck
Team: Duck
Win Condition: Wins with ducks
Skill: Can "Paint" a body, can go near an avian carcass and can make it a different color, which is completely randomized. Can only paint 1 corpse per voting round, after voting round ability is back for another corpse.

Host Settings:
Paint Cooldown
Report Reveal:
-True: When corpse reported, the true body's identity is revealed
-Dead Birds: When corpse reported, the color of the body is chosen randomly from the people dead
-False: When corpse reported, the color would be randomized

green nacelleBOT
steep granite
royal geyser
# steep granite Is the reported person's identity revealed upon reporting or does it swap with a...

I think it would be better that it would be a host setting, to reveal identity apon report. If enabled yes, it would only be aesthetic and when reported, in the "avian carcass found" animation, the true identity would be shown. If set to medium, or "Only dead", then apon reporting the color of the body would be chosen from somone dead. If set to false, the color would be completely randomized, and the identity wouldnt show up apon reporting

wind pine
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Here's an idea and it's welcome to get tampered with. Spy goose/duck I don't really care ( prob fits goose better tho ) so they're able to place a little mic or smthn that allows them to listen to everyone in proximity can only place 1 every round and after the meeting it malfunctions and doesn't work anymore :)

calm hare
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Seen that one suggested a couple times, name would have to be different as there is already a spy, Listener Duck or something maybe

wind pine
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Oh right forgot xd

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Welp

unkempt cipher
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Just some roles ideas-suggestions;

  1. Switcheroo/Duckeroo - being killed by a duck as a goose makes him/her switch side to duck.

  2. Lawyer goose - vote counts as two instead of one.

  3. Trapper goose -Sets up a trap once per game that kills whoever steps on it. Can also be a duck role but be more fitted as a defensive goose imo.

  4. Mastermind duck - assign real but random task to other goose once per round.

  5. Hunter neutral - Attempts to kill another neutral but cannot vote, dies if kills a goose or a duck.

shadow falcon
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number 5....idk assassin might know who is hunter neutral

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but basically it's a sheriff...but that hunts falcon vulture pigeon and dodo i mean...what will happen if all neutral are gone?

sonic prism
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I guess it just gets to kill somebody but dies anyway lol

shadow falcon
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I still wanna know what happen if all neutral are gone and there is hunter

ivory abyss
ivory abyss
unkempt cipher
shadow falcon
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ok

crisp heron
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Mirage goose - can place a decoy of himself to try and bait the killer to kill and they get notified if the decoy is killed

sonic prism
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The decoy is only visible to non geese, right?

lavish craterBOT
harsh meadow
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%role scout duck: they can double kill once per game, for every person they kill they get a 2 second shorter kill cooldown (tf2 reference since we already have spy and demoman)

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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Bonk

harsh meadow
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atomic punch

shadow falcon
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yea we will see bout that chucklehead

harsh meadow
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fat bald fatty fat fat fat fat i think thats one he says against heavy

sudden rampart
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what are you guys talking about

void halo
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Sounds like TF2 lines

sudden rampart
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oh, gotcha

harsh meadow
harsh meadow
sonic prism
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%role Workaholic goose
After completing tasks you are assigned a few “overtime tasks” that give half task bar progression and some bonus silver at the end of the match. Can’t do those extra tasks when dead.

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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Not really a point just think getting tasks done early should be rewarding for both you and the team

green nacelleBOT
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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

harsh meadow
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%role insitigator goose:they can use their ability to put 2 votes one someone (they can use ability while not in meeting)

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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@harsh meadow What if the instigator Goose dies? Will the target still get voted?

storm crescent
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%idea Marker Goose - Goose - Marks anyone they want. The Mark only activate in meeting where Ducks can see it. Can only Mark one per round. Why add this? Ducks Likes Challenges.

green nacelleBOT
harsh meadow
steep granite
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So only ducks see the mark?

lavish craterBOT
sinful mortar
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%role Hater role:

The hater has a target if he makes them vote for his target he wins but if his target is killed he will turn into a normal goose

Why add a role like this?:
This role can make it difficult for votes like the dodo to make them unfollow the votes so easily

Does this role novel introduce gameplay?:
Yes a new neutral can make the game more difficult and I would love another role that wins by votes

How would the role affect the meta?:
It will affect a lot but in a good and fun way

How does the role affect the balance of the game?: Will affect the game the same amount as the dodo affects

Is there counterplay to this role?:
There are two counerplays for the hater: It can be very difficult for them to vote for your target and if your target dies you will become a useless goose

How complicated is this role?:
The role is not as complicated as THE WITNESS because the hater wins alone if they vote for his target and wins with the geese if his target dies

green nacelleBOT
sudden rampart
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its been suggested several time sbefore, i'm not quite sure it's a good fit for ggd

sonic prism
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Its a lot easier to get someone else voted out rather than yourself

sinful mortar
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%role Cursed Goose: A normal goose that if a duck or hawk tries to kill it it will transform into the role that tried to kill it. This can be very useful for the ducks and hawk when they are alone and it will make them look for the right goose to help them.

green nacelleBOT
rain thunder
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%role

Prosecutor Goose :]

-A goose able to bring someone to court-

Ability: Bring 1 target to a instant meeting.

The target and the skip button is the only option that can be voted in court

Cannot be assassinated in court, but can be assassinated in a normal meeting

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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Not sure if a coincidence or not but thats a copy paste of a role in Traitors in Salem

rain thunder
sonic prism
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No they’re making a spin off in a roaming social deduction game

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And it has a role called prosecutor where you prosecute somebody it instantly calls a meeting and everyone votes guilty

rain thunder
sudden rampart
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i mean its kind of neat

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but its a provable role

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because i can always say, hey im the prosecutor

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im going to prove it by accusing chonkyrito

sonic prism
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Noooooo

nimble quail
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%role El psycho ''duck''

  • Once per match he can keep a corpse with him and implant it somewhere as a trap to forge an assassination. (with time options to activate)
  • the target that is killed and guarded by this duck will appear as ''alive'' in meetings always voting ''skip'' until used as a trap
  • maybe a bonus of 'if fake alive is thrown out you win
green nacelleBOT
nimble quail
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My english is bad and i make this in translator

late wasp
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The role finder the role finder can one role per round if guessed correct it will be permanently on there screen (it is a goose)

deep swallow
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%role
Breaker(Duck)
Can undo tasks, only if fake tasks are on

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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%role Ninja duck
After a kill it drops a smoke bomb where the body is, gaining invisibility and a speed boost for a short time. You can manually choose to take off the invisibility and cannot vent. Going invisible isn’t very fair if people don’t know about it but if there was a visual clue that there is a ninja duck in the area it might help the geese to try to find it after it loses the invisibility.

green nacelleBOT
deep swallow
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%role
Agent (Goose)
In meetings, it had two types of voting: Normal and RR (Role Reveal)
If the agent votes someoje with RR, Thry get to know the role of the person thry voted.
If they reveal a Duck or falcon, they get killed.

green nacelleBOT
clear patrol
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so a riskier town spy?

deep swallow
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Yes

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Also the peoplr who give them the roles are ok with revealing the dodo, vulture, and pigeon

But a falcon? Nah mate

gusty bone
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Auto confirms someone either way. Someone could say “I’m checking X, call a meeting immediately” and then you’d either get their role, or know their a duck/falcon.

deep swallow
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Wait

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Only activates when they vote then body is found

gusty bone
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Even then, it’s a more powerful old detective, able to confirm any goose in the game
The ability to confirm a dodo as a dodo just tips it over the edge

sudden rampart
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that doesnt sound very fun lol

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now that you deleted your idea, it looks like im saying that to walliam

sonic prism
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Exactly

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But it still works

deep swallow
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%role
President (Duck)
Can’t be voted out, can only be in the game if falcon, vig, or sheriff is in game, or blind ducks

green nacelleBOT
void halo
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I don't understand. Presidents CAN be voted out? dodo

steep granite
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The impeached

deep swallow
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Ya, which is killing them

shut turtle
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%role Threatener Duck (yes i decided to make terrible role ideas again)

Ur ability allows you to once per game/round (idk which one) threaten someone and if they use an ability they die.

green nacelleBOT
shut turtle
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forgot to post this

Does this role introduce novel gameplay?

it would make goose kinda scared on using their abilities and be like "am i threatened?"

How would the role affect the meta?

Like i said previosuly

Is there counterplay to this role?

yes, roles with passive abilities like canadian are not affected and u can just never use ur ability.

How does this affect existing roles?

Makes their abilities risky to use

How complicated is this role?

not that much imo

Does this role fundamentally alter how the game is played?

idk about this one

tacit matrix
sinful mortar
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%role Cursed Goose: A normal goose that if a duck or hawk tries to kill it it will transform into the role that tried to kill it. This can be very useful for the ducks and hawk when they are alone and it will make them look for the right goose to help them.

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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%Role Illusion Duck: Being the only person to vote for someone makes them invisible for the next round. Does not work on ducks. Only ducks are able to see this "invisible player".

green nacelleBOT
rotund marsh
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%Role Witch Duck: By marking the person selected from the spellbook,
she will halve her speed for 35 seconds
and make it easier to catch her prey.

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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Just to mess with innocent people thinking that they are with somebody and that they are trusted only for that person to say "What are you talking about I wasn't with you"

sinful mortar
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What about the cursed goose?

rotund marsh
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%Role Cleaner Goose: can use the feature once per turn. If a murderer has passed through the area where he uses his feature, he sees his footprints. But if the killer didn't kill anyone that round, it looks clean.

green nacelleBOT
rotund marsh
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%Role RockThor Goose: It can knock down other walls except the Off-Map walls. Anyone can see the wall he demolished, and anyone can pass through the wall that has been demolished. However, the municipality will repair the destroyed wall in 10 seconds.

green nacelleBOT
rotund marsh
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%Role Faker Duck: Can use the feature once per turn. The person he throws dust in his face becomes blind for 7 seconds and cannot hear outside sounds.

green nacelleBOT
rotund marsh
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%Role Psychopath Duck: When you use the feature, it doubles its speed and its prey cannot escape from it. --- It also leaves no footprints!!!

green nacelleBOT
rotund marsh
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%Role Threatening Duck: At the end of the first round, he places a bomb on a person and takes them hostage. It can detonate the person taken hostage both during the round and during the discussion. But if the hostage cooperates with the killer, he can win the game with the ducks.

green nacelleBOT
rotund marsh
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Finish

sonic prism
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Wow talk about rapid fire roles

rotund marsh
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%Role Sniper Goose: He has the right to kill only 1 person during the game. He kills the person he chooses, even if he is at the other end of the map.

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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@rotund marsh I usually just post ideas when I think of them because yeah I excessively post them

rotund marsh
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Xd

sonic prism
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@rotund marsh you just powercrept vigilante lol

rotund marsh
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@sonic prism This role cannot kill according to his head, because he is a party to the villagers, he kills the person for whom he made the decision. And the person he's going to kill doesn't have to be close to him.

sudden rampart
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hasan, have you read the document guide

steep granite
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sniper is way too overpowered

sudden rampart
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also, do not dm me with role ideas

steep granite
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you can't hide

rotund marsh
rotund marsh
rotund marsh
steep granite
rotund marsh
steep granite
sonic prism
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Its a lot harder to make interesting geese roles because of all their limitations. Thats why the last few that released are relatively tame unless they want the meta to revolve around a specific one.

rotund marsh
rotund marsh
rotund marsh
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The logic is the same, but this role gives you the opportunity to choose the person to fall in love with.

deep swallow
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Hasan can you not

mint gale
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We're not against people posting here as much as they would like.

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We generally pay more attention to those suggestions that follow our guidelines for design.

lavish craterBOT
rotund marsh
shut turtle
sudden rampart
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i find it amusing that you chose to reply to the message where i say, do not dm me with role ideas lol

shut turtle
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Sorry i just want u to see it lol

sudden rampart
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i see all ideas

shut turtle
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Oh

sudden rampart
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i dont think it makes sense, honestly

shut turtle
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Ik i tried

shut turtle
sudden rampart
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it doesn't

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i think to learn and grow

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you should tell me whats wrong with the role sl1m

shut turtle
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Ilemme guess too OP?

sudden rampart
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no

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it's terrible and weak

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and if you can figur eout why, maybe your ideas will grow

shut turtle
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It literally kills someonenifbthey use an ability

sudden rampart
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yeah

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the idea is terrible

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you work on it and tell me why okay

shut turtle
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Cuz it forces ppl to not use their abilities?

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And it doesnt affect 90% of goose roles cuz they are passives?

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I regret posting this

shut turtle
sudden rampart
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i'll make you a deal

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i'll tell you everythings wrong with it

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and you dont make a role unless it doesn't break anything stated in the guide

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or what im about to say

shut turtle
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Nah i would just not post ideas

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Since they get hard rejected

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Idk why i feel worthless in terms of ideas cuz i offer them support and they spat in my face

sudden rampart
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never sl1m

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you're really looking at it the wrong way

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because you ignore what I say everytime, lol

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you ignore that there are rules

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and if you want to make roles that exist outside of those rules, thats fine, but don't ask me if we can put it in

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if you're just exercising your creative juices, go nuts

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okay lets do this

gusty bone
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My thoughts:
It actively discouraged ppl from using their roles, and it isn’t good for either side. If it doesn’t tell someone that they’ve been threatened, then all you get is a free kill that feels kinda BS to the person killed. If it does, then you just turn someone into a normal goose, and they now know someone is a threatener. Plus, if you know someone’s role, killing them or relaying that to your teammates is always a better idea. It also incentivizes ppl to not use their roles, which isn’t really fun. Also, once you use it, your now just a normal duck, and can’t do anything cool for the rest of the game.

shut turtle
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I will just stop posting ideas that ppl hate

gusty bone
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Making bad roles is fine, no one hates you for making a flawed role idea, but it’s also good to know the problems with it so you can hopefully make a role that doesn’t get rejected in the future mechanic

shut turtle
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Ik balance is important but ppl really need to add fun to the roles in this game

gusty bone
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Geese roles are meant to be able to be small buffs, as opposed to the meta altering abilities that ducks have.

shut turtle
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Since most matches i am a goose rolenwith a passive who rarely gets triggered

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Which bores me

gusty bone
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Goose roles are meant to bank off the fact that geese have majority, and most of them get 10x better with proxy chat

shut turtle
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Thats why i moved on to other games and barely play GGD anymore

shut turtle
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Let me guess chris and herbert are gonna jump on me to say why my ideas suck

steep moth
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sl1m im going to leave herbert with your role ideas. If you want to get into game design and ask the developers of another game for advice, you're going to have to learn to take criticism and accept feedback. Everyone is going to have opinions about a game and how it should be played. Not everyone is going to form into the way you want things to be done.

shut turtle
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I just want to get creative with roles

sudden rampart
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Threatener Duck - Ur ability allows you to once per game/round (idk which one) threaten someone and if they use an ability they die.

  1. As you said, the majority of the geese have a passive ability. So this doesn't actually do anything to a great number of roles.
  2. You can't actually aim this ability to any role in particular. You don't know if you're using it on the sheriff, or a technician, or the dodo, or anyone really. So as a player, you won't really know that this works more than half the time, and that breaks one of the rules listed in the design document.
  3. You didn't state whether or not this duck has the kill ability, but i'm going to assume that they have it. What scenarios would it be advantageous for a player to use the threaten ability over just killing them? I mean there's literally no way to tell, since you can't tell the roles of the players you're using it on. If i use it on a technician, it may or may not work, but if i kill the technician, regardless of what they are it works.
  4. When it does work, people will just blow up, and that's not really fun, and it will look like a bug. Again, in the design doc it states about how having abilities that negate other abilities being problematic, because people are going to assume its a bug, rather than by design.
    So effectively you have a role that doesn't work most of the time, except when it does people will think the game broke.
  5. Let's take a look at some of the cases where it would hypothetically be useful. Let's say the sheriff is a strong goose role, and somehow you've figured it out and you've used the ability on them.
    If they were about to use it on a goose, they instead die, so as a duck you've actually hurt your team because you are stopping them from killing two geese.
    Well, what happens if if they were going to use it on a duck? or maybe you as a threatener? Well, two things. One, if someone else is around, from their perspective it'll look like you killed them, and then you'll get
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voted out. so you'll just be better off killing them in this scenario anyways

shut turtle
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Like i feel sad knowing i cant make good ideas

shut turtle
sudden rampart
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theres no way you bothered to read that

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and thats part of the problem

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you dont want to make good ideas

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you just want to make ideas, and you want us to call them good

gusty bone
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No one’s telling you to not be creative or that you can’t make good ideas. The devs are just trying to tell you that these current ideas don’t fit into the game

sudden rampart
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im sorry if is causing you any distress, truly

shut turtle
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I once even got bullied when i made my first role idea (for Among us not ggd)

sudden rampart
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we've done this song and dance long enough imo

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even this one idea breaks two of the design document rules

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and im sure you're pretty tired of me saying, read the document

shut turtle
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Ill just leave it to others

sudden rampart
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cool thanks

shut turtle
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I am tired of getting hard rejected by most devs

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In general not GGD

steep granite
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Maybe you can take your own path

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Develop your game with creative ideas

gusty bone
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If you don’t like getting hard rejected, learn what the devs are looking for

sudden rampart
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i've revoked his privilege of writing in here

honest knot
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What did I walk into

steep granite
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He thinks this channel doesn't exist because he can't see it I think

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Just some weird drama

honest knot
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%role
Reverse morphing duck, I don't have a name for it. Can turn someone into them but the person that changed can't see that they have been switched on their screen.

green nacelleBOT
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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

sudden rampart
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not that the morphling really needs even more additional cover

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its the executioner from town of us

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lots of people have suggested that, and i dont think it fits for ggd

honest knot
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I though of it yesterday when I was playing with friends

marsh whale
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%role Mirror : He changes skins and names with a random person on start of the game he needs to get this person voted out

green nacelleBOT
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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

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Thanks @sonic prism for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

harsh meadow
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%role the bartender duck:they can give alchohol to any goose every 20-30 seconds, after a meeting every single goose that had alchohol will have random controls (all will be swapped, fe.: a goes to w, w goes to d etc.) they will become "drunk" and drunk geese will also move slower from taking too much alchohol (the best role on goosechapel because of ye olde tavern)

green nacelleBOT
void halo
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Reverse/altered controls don't really work when taking mobile into account

narrow jacinth
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%role the deepening (not the greatest name) duck : you give others a low pitched voice during meetings.

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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If you get partied and deepened do you have a normal voice or insane voice swings

narrow jacinth
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Can be either tbh, I think it would be funny however to make it seem like your having voice cracks

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Or it can be it’s one or the other in a game and not both

void halo
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That's what I was thinking, either Party Duck or Downer Duck, never both

royal geyser
split gyro
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%role the marker: they can mark one goose/duck, and next meeting if that person gets more than 5 votes out you win

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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I like this but for 1 person its quite easy

naive iron
sonic prism
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%role Scissors Duck
Once per game can get a second kill with no cool down (the scissors are actually 2 separate knives) BUT cannot run at full speed for 15 seconds straight or you trip and stab yourself because running with scissors is dangerous, kids. There will be a bar that tells you if you are running too much and it will flash when there is 5 seconds left before you trip.

green nacelleBOT
split gyro
green nacelleBOT
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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

green nacelleBOT
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Sorry, I couldn't find a command or game object that matches: %snitch goose : snitch goose have tasks he complete tasks than he cane see the duck. And ducks see him

sudden rampart
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lots of people have suggested role stealing. most iterations of it does not fit

shadow falcon
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that's...not what I think it will be added

green nacelleBOT
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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

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Sorry, I couldn't find a command or game object that matches: %phoenix goose : If the phoenix die , it will respawn but cannot speak.

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Sorry, I couldn't find a command or game object that matches: %phoenix goose If the phoenix die it will respawn but cannot speak

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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

sudden rampart
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you should read the pinned document

lavish craterBOT
north pewter
split gyro
north pewter
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Still could be an easy win in that exact scenario, making it single use doesn’t change much

steep granite
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Just mark it was 3 people left

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That's too op

split gyro
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changed it

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so if a person that has more than 5 marks and gets voted off

ivory hare
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There is almost no advantage to use the party power from party duck's perspective. It actually is a detriment to you because it reveals players that are not the party duck without giving you any advantage. It's fun, but I feel like party duck should get something a little extra to make it worth using party. Because you are more likely to win if you just ignore your party power than use it.

void halo
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Especially when people are encountering it the first few times, the Party Duck effect has the secondary power of oftentimes derailing meetings and preventing useful information from being shared while people are too busy laughing at the funny voice or the person who has been partied starts singing for the meme

ivory hare
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Whenever I get it people are just like "you are partied, who were you with? Oh you were with X, they are party duck"

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I know it's better in a group but yeah I guess it is a sort of distraction that keeps people from talking about important things

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I guess as a party duck you want to really focus on their voice and getting them to do funny things instead of figuring out the killer

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I think party duck should be able to party someone without having to be nearby.

mint gale
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You don't need to party someone every round.

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There are ways to use this

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Also partying your fellow duck remove suspicion.

ivory hare
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What about being able to party yourself? Otherwise everyone you party knows they can't be the party duck.

steep granite
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That just removes a useful roleclaim

marsh whale
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%role
Name: The Doctor/Penguin
Story: he came from the far world of ice (maybe a new map 😉 ) he had found the life serum its sad that it stops working when a enough sound waves of a loud sound like a bell or an emergency hit it.
Abilities: (Every round/once per game) it can choose a player that will not die when killed (for one round) but when ducks try to kill a person with the serum they use up they're kill cooldown
(the person that was chose this round by the Doctor/Penguin doesn't know that it has the serum)

green nacelleBOT
sonic prism
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You can’t keep people from dying

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Sick em Helper Bot!

storm crescent
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%idea Is it a good idea to revamp the Spy Duck? Like instead of seeing one's role you voted in meeting the entire game. The Spy should have a Send Report Button to other Ducks so they can see what their role is in the next meeting. To Balance this, the Spy Duck can't see the roles he/she successfully voted.

green nacelleBOT
mint dagger
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Gadget Goose - can plant an extra camera that they have view of either by shift key or in place of minimap, other geese can see it on normal cams screen.

Alternatively, make it a reward for first goose to finish tasks.

marsh whale
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cause right now no one uses them

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they shouldn't be too op but still

sudden rampart
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people use them.. you just dont use them. lol

north pewter
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“It doesn’t directly benefit me at all times so it must be bad design”

marsh whale
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i played

mental zealot
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%idea Owl: has night vision when lights go out / can only kill then, but will regurgitate body after a cooldown period

green nacelleBOT
gusty bone
north pewter
mental zealot
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Oh ok. Well then that could be the only time kill is available for them then?

gusty bone
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still, that makes it so that turning off lights is directly empowering one player, and the owl can't win/ do anything if the ducks just don't sabotage lights

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it's an interesting idea, but a bit too specialized

marsh whale
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%role Stork has the ability to "fly away" he can use it once per game he changes to spectator and cant be killed next meeting he comes back to normal he can't hear the dead he can just fly above the map and watch

green nacelleBOT
lavish craterBOT
supple lantern
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%role

Cultist - Neutral - Kill X birds with ability
Ability - 20 second initial cd - Upon use: Pick a Target and stand still for 20 seconds, if uninterrupted by movement / being killed / meetings / your target being killed by someone else.. your target dies (Could blow up, be taken underground by tentacles, or a godly smite, leaving only feet) - 20 second CD

Cultist must kill X birds by successfully chanting a prayer to the gods.

This leaves them only able to kill every 40+ seconds.. 20 second initial CD, time taken to pick a target, 20 seconds to say the chants.

green nacelleBOT
green nacelleBOT
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Thanks @sonic prism for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

void halo
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I think that's an interesting neutral role. Not sure how I feel about the role reveal aspect though.

green nacelleBOT
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Thanks @sonic prism for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

sonic prism
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%role Albatross
Wins when a specific number of “enemies” die for any reason(2-4 depending on lobby size) Each round you can mark somebody as your enemy. At the start of the next round they will be told they have been marked. While marked killers will see that they are marked and their role is displayed to them. You can mark somebody again once your current enemy dies or after 2 rounds. You can win if your last enemy dies while you are dead. I didn’t want to make another executioner type role so it’s dependence on the ducks to kill high risk marked targets such as the sheriff or mechanic at the risk of progressing your victory as well as getting somebody voted out to make it a lot less one sided, similar to vulture depending on the ducks to win as well as they getting support from less reports.

green nacelleBOT
void halo
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The role so nice you sent it thrice

sonic prism
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Sorry Ive had very bad issues with my internet

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My bad

storm crescent
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%role Cultist(?) duck - Neutral - Its ability is that he converts someone into its own (That someone can't die and his/ her abilities are disabled. Thus, you can say that the converts turned into normal goose). Downside is that he can't kill and he doesn't know who the duck is (Like the mimic). Also, the conversion process can only happen once per round. Why add this? To make harder for the gooses and assassin to trust that the other duck is a mimic. Lore-wise? He worships an ancient Duck being that needs many goose worshippers. Why does the being needs goose worshippers? its because he's being tempted by the Cultist Duck to come to the world.

green nacelleBOT
lavish craterBOT
shadow falcon
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I mean...you can see everybody and in specator mode people see the roles and even tho stork is not allow to do that he can still see everyone

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how will ducks or falcon kill them? wont the stork see a mech or/and pigeon vent? wont he see the kill that the ducks committed and escape?

marsh whale
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thats the role thats why he use it once pere game

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they can kill him every other round

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he wont see roles in his fly mode

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and spectators don't see the entire map

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he could only fly for few seconds so he needs to find someone kill fast

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or he can use it to call meeting when someone tries to kill him

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so he flies to button and presses it

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the assasin is a big counter attack to stork

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the silencer can be to

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even the demolinist

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if he turns on fly mode with the bomb he can't give it to any one

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he wont have the spectator that can see in people

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he could fly like a ghost over the map

marsh whale
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%role
Name :- Dinosaur
Story :- Long ago on the planet (some jungle planet) he fell into water on (some ice continent) he soon was a sleep in an iceberg the goose found him and unleshed him (it was untentional) somehow he had children now the "Dinosaurs" are a little more evolved
Abilities :- To be killed he needs to be killed 2 times so you could say he has 2 lifes he's colorblind and to him everyone looks the same he can kill once per game he cant fix sabotages (he's not that smart yet)
Goal :- his goal is to find out who the dodo is and kill them
Team :- Neutral (the sherrif can kill him but he two needs to do it twice)(Vigilantie cant kill him)

Pluses :-
1.its harder for the dodo to win
2.he can block a double/stack kill
3.the goose dont need to vote him out if they kill the dodo (he can co-exist with them)
4.he can block a random sherrif/vigilante kill

Minuses :-
1.its easy for ducks to find out who is the dinosaur
2.if someone kills the dodo before him he cant win
3.if he sees someone vent or kill he cant be sure who was it
4.he cant fix sabotages

green nacelleBOT
lavish craterBOT
marsh whale
# lavish crater

you mean the 10th point so "Roles that disable another roles’ ability aren’t as good additions as roles that add abilities
"

shadow falcon
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but if the dodo died how will the dino win?

marsh whale
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so he needs to kill the dodo first

shadow falcon
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now here is a question

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how the heck will the dino knows who is a dodo if they are just...colorblind?

marsh whale
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ok thats true

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:C

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maybe they couldnt seee the color on them

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but they could smell their color

shadow falcon
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I mean...if random start position is on how will he know who is who? I mean sure private proxy I understand but...public?

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how will he smell the color? dodo

marsh whale
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he would see a short trail of their color

shadow falcon
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I mean...the idea of dino surviving 2 kills is alright but haha...it's funny that he can smell the color

marsh whale
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its a dinoSAUR

shadow falcon
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but...sure private a bit ez when proxy is on to hear

marsh whale
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and imagine a play where a morphling changes into the dodo so the dodo doesnt win

shadow falcon
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but...how is he 100% sure that person is a dodo so he can bite? it's like 1/15 percent one of them is

marsh whale
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a sucrafice for better good(from a ducks point of view)

shadow falcon
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haha...I mean when he know who it is but suddenly he circle on a person and you lost track on who is who

marsh whale
shadow falcon
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true...but public?

marsh whale
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in public there is chat

shadow falcon
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I mean in the lobby or pause to see people in the game sure...

marsh whale
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and in meetings you can hear

shadow falcon
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BUT HOW CAN HE SEE COLOR OR WHO TALKED TO WHO IN THE MEETING?

marsh whale
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he can see nicknames

shadow falcon
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. . . . . . . . .

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only meeting or just he sees tagnames?

void halo
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Kills should always work

marsh whale
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yes i do understand

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Now

shadow falcon
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I am a bit confused now...

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I mean...it will be simple to memorize every people possible color in the lobby or pause the game to see who has this name and which color is it

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and remembering the voices when doing it

marsh whale
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okay any way he was declined :C so yeah theres no point in arguing about him 👍

shadow falcon
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yea...the idea is good but there is a lot of downsides sad

void halo
# lavish crater

The role document lists the minimum requirements a role must meet to be considered for Classic Plus.

shadow falcon
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but dont worry daw one day they will add classic rejects where we play all our unwanted roles that was overpower and stuff happy

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but dont know if that means removing all achievements and collections sad

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i mean...maybe only the gamemode or just the game dont know but if gamemode I am fine because I want some cool crafting cosmetics

marsh whale
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%role
Name :- Bat
Birdwatcher's Description :- ...he's like a pigeon from a different universe...
Story :- Birds are not sure if he's a bird but he has wings so probably idk. he is not if you don't know he is the only one left thats why he wants to spread his genes
Abilities :- he can bite people that will turn them into a bat (you can see that you are a bat) if he is voted out all bats turn back to birds (i said birds cause they even as a bat have their roles and abilities)
Goal :- turn everyone into a bat if the he wins all bats he made don't (this is needed so people dont want to be turned into a bat and they want to vote him out before he wins)
Team :- Neutral
Cooldown :- the same as the kill cooldown for ducks

Pluses :-
1.If you bite one of the lovers both of them change into bats
2.You need to bite everyone in one round (your have an advantage over the pigeon)
3.You have an advantage of knowing who has what role

Minuses :-
1.Everyone is your enemy even your "bats"
2.You should probably bite only when you're in a group
3.If you die or get voted out you lose all your progress in the game
4.You are easier to find then the pigeon (people know when did someone bit them)

Pluses for the Game :-
1.People should now avoid eachother and can't group so much
2.He's a minus for every player
3.You need to look who is around you so you know who could have bit you

green nacelleBOT
fossil hinge
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안녕하세요

marsh whale
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i think i might have make a good role

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cause the bot isnt saying that it breaks the rules

green nacelleBOT
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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

marsh whale
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they probably won't approve it

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cause they say that roles that disable abilities arent good

marsh whale
green nacelleBOT
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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

green nacelleBOT
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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

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Thanks @fervent pasture for your feedback, we'll be sure to look at it happy

sonic prism
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%role Fraudster Duck
Can bribe one person per round to make them vote with you. That player will be able to freely vote but when it comes to the results the vote will match the duck’s. Cannot make the falcon vote for somebody.

green nacelleBOT
marsh whale
sonic prism
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You get to vote, and the person you bribe votes with you

marsh whale
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yes but you said that the person you bribe can vote freelly

sonic prism
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It votes freely on their side but their vote wont count towards anything

marsh whale
marsh whale