#🐣︱classic-role-ideas

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I do kinda miss Bodyguard/Hitman in Draft, I'll admit

wintry kraken
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It does make sense

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Maybe they can change it

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In Werewolf the Lovers “protect” each other, so they both can take one hit before death

tender kiln
wintry kraken
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At least I think that’s it

wintry kraken
calm hare
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kill prevention is not something the devs are looking to add to the game

tender kiln
calm hare
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Lovers has always been more of a challenge win than anything

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I've always thought that winning as Lover Duck and Goose is the hardest victory to get

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You need to play both sides, essentially

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pretty tough, kinda like with Mimic a bit

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Mimic ultimately sides with the geese, but you still wanna be suspicious enough for the ducks to believe you're legit

wintry kraken
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Mimic is excellent, dying by another Goose being killed does not sound so excellent.

tender kiln
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Lovers literally predates Vulture...added way back on 5/29/2021. Vulture was the second neutral.

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Best way to counter that is to stick with your Lover

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killers generally don't wanna kill in front of anyone, unless they can smooth talk their way out of it

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so if there's two people together, they probably won't kill there

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unless they set up for a double kill

wintry kraken
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Ideas:
Keyholder Goose - Lock and Open Doors. (25 seconds)
Phantom - Can also fix sabotages as a Ghost.
Stunning Goose - So pretty it stuns the Duck, Goose or Neutral that kills him for 5 seconds.
Colorblind Duck - Unique Sabotage, makes the entire map without color and names for 5 seconds, duck. Can only use while standing still.
Police Goose - Once per match, can send someone to jail immediately, they will be released in thirty seconds.
Poisonous Duck - Can’t vent, when “killing” someone, the kill will only happen after X seconds, the meeting removes the Poison.
Shadow Duck - Can go trough walls after using his ability for 4 seconds, can’t vent. (25s CD)

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I did some Brainstorm there, anything that y’all think it’s actually good or could see ingame?

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Shadow Duck's ability was originally going to be Astral Goose's ability, but it proved too troublesome to program.

Keyholder would mess with the door sabotage, which will probably not be added. Too disadvantageous for the ducks.

Poisonous kinda sounds like Demolitionist, except with poison instead of a bomb.

Police Goose sounds like something some people would just abuse. If you're jailing someone, you might as well just kill them instead with a good killing role outside of meetings.

Phantom would be too strong. Sabo's are the duck's whole trump card, and this would really interfere with that.

Stunning Goose and Colorblind Duck could potentially work. But I imagine the Colorblind would need it's own map to have a unique sabotage.

wintry kraken
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I used the wording “Sabotage” to the Colorblind Duck, but, it would just be a power that affects the map. Just like “Astral” in the spirit form.

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That's fair, but I feel that would hinder his fellow ducks too, in some situations

wintry kraken
lavish craterBOT
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The role you suggested is quite similar to one from modded among us!

It's possible that this inspired you, or perhaps you coincidentally developed a similar role. In terms of the general design direction, we're trying to build a different game and we aren't really looking to replicate the roles found in modded Among Us! But thank you for taking the time to make a submission, we love this type of community engagement

wintry kraken
wintry kraken
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Goose Gods watching me, I don’t know anything about Among Us

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well see, imagine if ducks know who the canadian is and there's a few people that are dressed the same

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and the colourblind thingy is going on

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situations like those

wintry kraken
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Just like Astral, you can just see the “body”

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And yeah, it’s also a downside, but it could be a major upside as well

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It would need communication to work well

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One thing about the Phantom suggestion.
Sabotages are the only way to effectively force a game to end on some maps (such as basement or Mallard Manor) if the final 3 remaining players are engineer, pigeon and duck, since if both Goose and Pigeon are hiding in a closet, the duck can never kill one or the other. A sabotage will force one or both of them out of hiding, but if a dead Goose can fix it, not only does that negate that, the Duck cannot even stop the Phantom Goose from doing so

young lantern
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Ghost Roles
yeah you get the point. Ghost roles are split into both teams

Haunter
Team: Duck
Function: Activating the ability will chill out nearby gooses, disabling their ability and tasks while slowing them down for a bit. Cools down every 30 seconds per use

Angel
Team: Goose
Function: Activate the ability on a nearby goose to protect them from the next attack or until a meeting is called. Cools down every 45 seconds per use

Poltergeist
Team: Duck
Function: Activate on a nearby goose to make them trip and fall, stunning them for a few seconds. Cools down every minute per use

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buoyant crow
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Doesn't fit too well for Classic/Draft but I can see that as its own game mode

wintry kraken
wintry kraken
buoyant crow
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I didn't read over the rest too much. I'll have a look later.

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Investigator (Goose): Search a body to figure out what role killed the body.

pearl herald
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The confused (goose)

The confused will think it's a duck having the ability to kill and see who all the ducks are. (The ducks will see the confused player as a duck but they can kill him and the confused can't kill the ducks)

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The mystery (duck)
The mystery will not know what type of duck there are they will have to figure it out and if they are the invisibility party slincer there ability will show but it'll be blank when they press it they ability will work but they won't know what they did

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%Role

Name: Blackout
Team: Ducks
Win Conditions: Win with Ducks

Information:

The Blackout Duck can create a limited field of darkness similar in function to sabotaging the lights. Every player's field of vision would become zero except the Ducks. The visual effect would be that everything would be blacked out, nothing can be seen. The Shadow Duck can then kill and escape. The field of darkness would last about 10 to 15 seconds. The field of effect would also have to be limited to a certain diameter or maybe the room that the Blackout Duck happens to inhabit before activating their ability.

pearl herald
buoyant crow
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Many roles get suggested repeatedly.
For instance, the role you suggested just before this one has also been suggested a multitude of times under different names and slightly different abilities

toxic cloud
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Blind [goose]

Ability: you have low vision but you know who’s there when you enter the room, you don’t know if there is a body(can still report) and you don’t know if someone vented there but you only know they are here (basically like admin in among us)

Why are you making this role?
Idk sad

Does this have affect the meta?:
Yea you can identify people that are lying of “where they’ve been”…then again you know people in electrical but you don’t know who murdered

Does this have any counterplay?:
Invisible duck and morphling and identity theif

Does this have balance?:
You are blind and sure that confirms you but there are ducks that can take your claim by saying: “I saw 3 people in the cafeteria and they are red white and pink” and something like that

acoustic pecan
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The "Portal killer"

Ability: You can place invisible portals (You can only see them) and then you have a list of people who walked in this portal for past 15 seconds and when you kill someone you can change locations with chosen people who walked through this portal for past 15 seconds, if the chosen goose got killed you change location where the goose was killed

Other: How many times the portal stay? for 25 - 30 seconds
What is the cooldown for placing the portal? 60 seconds

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That's an interesting one, but also very chaotic.

I see what you're going for. A quick escape after killing a goose who's listed, teleporting at the location where that goose had entered the invisible portal before.

It's a double edged sword. You could end up appearing in front of innocent geese after teleporting, and they'll instantly know you're the Portal Duck.

On one hand, it's pretty OP to just teleport away from the scene of the crime. On the other hand, it does have a pretty clear drawback.

Honestly, it's kind of like the invis duck in that regard. You don't see anyone when you're invis, and have that risk of being revealed in front of people when it wears off.

tl;dr version: I actually like the role idea, despite that some people might find it too OP to be in the game.

wintry kraken
fervent pasture
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wow…guess I really am a blind goose dodo

toxic cloud
wintry kraken
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Talking about portals and stuff, I think it could be fun a Goose or Duck that could teleport, probably a Duck

acoustic pecan
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yeah I know

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You could use lights sabotage and then teleport

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It's a good drawback so it makes it more viable

fervent pasture
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The "prankster" (goose)

Ability: you can place a decoy that will look like another selected player. Decoy will not move and talk. (You can only place 1 per round) If duck will kill that decoy if decoy number 1 will be killed then that duck wont be able to move for maybe 20 second. If decoy number 2 will be killed duck will be able to only kill 1 person in this round. If decoy number 3 will be killed the prankster will notice who killed it. and if 4 repeat number 1 effect, if number 5 repeat number 2 and so on. Decoys will disappear after round.

( if very complicated)

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I like the idea that this goose could place like a cardboard copy of another selected player near a task.

Then they could use that as bait for a killer. I don't think it should be able to make more than one in a round, though.

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I know thats why i change it

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I guess the one problem could be that if someone sees a decoy of someone on a task that's also a sabotage

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they might think that player is a duck, even though it was just a decoy

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Mihirung
Team: Neutral
Function: Get killed to win. Your tasks are fake.
Note: You cannot get voted out to win.

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%role Magician(Duck): You can make a player disappear for a short amount of time.
Poofing away a player gives them 15 seconds of invisibility and can't be used on ducks or the mimic. Only the magician can see players they made disappear.
Making someone disappear effectively removes them temporarily from the game for everyone else, making it difficult for another player confirm their location. It does have the drawback of proving an invisible player as a nonduck, at least without an invisibility and because other ducks can't see the victim, they could be surprised by a witness out of nowhere.

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I was trying to make an idea of the magician transforming players into doves but on paper it might have been too complicated so a disappearing trick it is

viral dove
young lantern
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well, imagine if you're any role that's not this one.

Suddenly, the game ends and the Mihirung wins just for dying.

It's not really something people can stop from happening.

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Would be much more fair and interesting if it was being killed by a goose, but then you run into the rng problem of did the geese even get a killing role. Also if you have it and the dodo together, now you can't really deal with someone being openly sus. If you shoot them they could be mihi, if you vote them they could be dodo

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It becomes even harder if you have to be killed by a goose, with the possibility of not having a win condition if sheriff or vigilante aren't in the game. Even with just avenger, it could be near impossible.

drifting light
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That was the point I made in the paragraph

sudden rampart
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dont forget to eat and sleep

viral dove
# drifting light That was the point I made in the paragraph

I think we're coming at it from two different angles. You see it as a good thing, and I see it as a bad thing. It's very easy for a vigilante to waste their shot, and sheriff to misfire early. Once those two are out, then there'd be almost no way for the Mihirung to win. Sure, the vulture can enter a similar state, but they at least have that eternal chance as long as they and a killer are alive.

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All in all, there isn't really a way to make that role work.

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%Role:

Name: Diverter
Team: Geese
Win Conditions: Win with Geese

Information: The Diverter Goose is able to choose someone to divert their potential doom onto. However, in order for the Diverter Goose to use their ability, a meeting must be called or body needs to be reported. This ability can only be used once per game.

Once the meeting occurs, the Diverter Goose selects a random player to divert one attempt on their life onto another player. This could work well if the Geese are suspect of another player of being an actual killer. Meaning that the Diverter Goose could divert a kill onto another Duck. After the ability is used during the game, the Diverter Goose will be as vulnerable as any other player.

It doesn't stop anyone from dying, like with the Gravy or Bodyguard roles, the kill is diverted onto another player. However, this only works once per game.

If the chosen player randomly dies around a group of people, it could sow a lot of chaos and finger pointing as to how it happened. Especially if lovers isn't on.

The Diverter Goose could still die from being eaten or blown up, even if they've chosen someone to sacrifice in their stead.

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%role

Bucher(duck)

Bucher presses the "chop" button the body or the body killed by another duck, and waits five seconds for the body to become meat cubes.The body cant longer be reported and vulture can still be eaten.

Judge(goose)
If there is a tie,judge can choose who to kill.

Soldier(goose)

Ver 1.Soldier can't target by Hitman,Serial killer,and assasin

Ver 2.If Assassin shoots Soldier and dies, Soldier can kill birds

Reporter(goose)

Role of the bird chosen in the first vote will be open to everyone if the reporter survives until the third vote.

Cleaner(duck)

After killing the birds,'Clean' button appears.If you press the button, clean it for 4 seconds and do not get caught by the detective if it is cleaned.when cleaner kill another birds, it is initialized and can be written once per round.

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Samurai goose
Information: Can protect all geese with your sword including yourself in a limited range for 10 seconds And can protect all the geese during the meeting to protect them from assassins duck But you can't protect non-geese opponents like ducks, dodos, hawks, pelicans, vultures, and pigeons.

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pearl herald
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a kill stop is a hard no

pearl herald
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Yea

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Because they would have to get double killed

pearl herald
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Right, and the fact that they would survive allows them to tell people who tried to kill them

pearl herald
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Yea

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Plz add this PLZ

lavish craterBOT
calm hare
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Team swapping is a hard no

pearl herald
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Ok

calm hare
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Please take a few moments to read the role document.

pearl herald
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Ok

toxic cloud
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Thoughts on Diverter or is that against the rules? I tried to avoid the issue of stopping or avoiding kills outright

pearl herald
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Santa (goose)

Santa gives presents out to everyone every present has different stuff

calm hare
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The main problem i see with a role like the diverter is people thinking the game is bugged

drifting light
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I does divert the issue of a killstop, but I don't like the idea of the duck killing another duck just because the diverted chose them.

toxic cloud
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Fair enough

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It originally started out as a swapper but instead of swapping votes, you'd swap places

drifting light
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The reason someone like demo can accidentally kill ducks is because the bombs are a very strong method of killing, and teamkilling that way kind of adds some risk to the bombs

pearl herald
calm hare
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I wasn't talking about the santa goose, but I don't really see the point of these presents

pearl herald
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Christmas

drifting light
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What would be in the presents?

toxic cloud
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Weapons! Nah, JK

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If I were to get a sudden present, I would start foaming out of my mouth like a rabid dog

calm hare
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and I don't really see them making, implementing, beta testing, and releasing a new role and present system within a span of a week

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there's always next year, who knows

toxic cloud
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Plus that'd be better as a game mode. Krampus instead of Santa (Krampus Duck). If the Krampus Duck kills everyone on their list, including other ducks, within a certain time limit, they win.

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Basically the Falcon but a Christmas themed role

pearl herald
civic linden
pearl herald
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Yes and other coins

calm hare
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I highly doubt they would give a way for you to just farm coins like that

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particularly gold ones

pearl herald
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It won't be that much

civic linden
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Farmer(goose)

You can install a scarecrow every 20 seconds.Ducks, neutrals, and all other killable jobs can use kill for scarecrow, and those jobs cant kill the scarecrow, and kill cooltime goes around again.Installing a new scarecrow destroys the existing scarecrow.

Necromanceror zombie

Necromancer comes back to life five seconds after being killed.He dies again 10 seconds after he comes to life, and he can't use the mic, and if he kills other birds while he's alive, he dies immediately regardless of time

calm hare
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first would be a kill stop, second would be revival

civic linden
civic linden
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I don't use revival,killstop,steal role or change role

calm hare
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Butcher: BAsically cannibal
Judge: chooses who lives or dies, basically a kingmaker role
Soldier: Having a role that can't be targetted by ducks is unfair towards the ducks
Reporter: Gives too much information
Cleaner: Cannibal Again

civic linden
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calm hare
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Didn't understand it that way as written. In that case it wouldn't exactly do much as the detective would already know who the killer is

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erasing that mark won't erase it from the detective's memory

civic linden
calm hare
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generally most roles aren't put in to specifically counter one single role

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if the detective dies or isn't in the game then this role is just a normal duck

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Roles that disable another roles’ ability aren’t as good additions as roles that add abilities
It’s better to have a role with an ability that is an addition to the game than something that is a subtraction. First, disabling another player’s ability isn’t as fun as having your own. Secondly, it’s difficult to balance the feedback of a disabling ability. Let’s say hypothetically that you could block the ability of killers. Well, since it’s a game of social deduction, we can’t actually give you feedback or you’ll be instantly able to identify killers. Therefore, you have to get a cooldown when you use the ability over everyone, kill ability or not. At that point, you as the ‘disabler’ also don’t get any feedback about whether your ability’s working as intended. Thirdly, from the perspective of the player you’ve targeted, at its best you’ve made their role unfun. At worst, they’re going to think the game is glitched.
So overall, these aren’t good roles. It’s not a matter of game balance, just that they don’t really add fun gameplay.
An extension of this are roles where you control another player’s actions. Really you’re just disabling their whole game at that point and the lack of agency for a player on the receiving end of that sucks.

wintry kraken
calm hare
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Not really, it fully confirms someone's role, even with the 3 meeting requirement it still is extremely overpowered

wintry kraken
calm hare
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"I would sooner delete GGD before adding in a kill stop/revival role" ~Shawn

wintry kraken
wintry kraken
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And I completely agree

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I just feel like Necromancy idea is a “fake revival”

calm hare
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In the end it is up to the devs, i'm just giving my 2 cents

wintry kraken
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Yep

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I see it like a “Beserker”, you died, you have 5 seconds alive, if your Kill is in Cooldown it would be useless, if it’s not, you can kill someone and will die right after

calm hare
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i see it like punishing the sheriff for doing their job

wintry kraken
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I think that’s what the Duck does

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Punish the Goose’s for existing

calm hare
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yes, but normally the ducks have to figure out who the sheriff is, not "i got killed so i kill who killed me"

wintry kraken
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hm, agree

calm hare
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this also doesn't take into account how a meeting called right after the duck's death would affect things

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or if they get eaten by the pelican

wintry kraken
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I would like to see some role based in “Love” “Passion” “Kiss” “Perfume”

wintry kraken
civic linden
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The peafowl,neutral job

wintry kraken
civic linden
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If you seduce everyone, like a pigeon, you can win, and you can seduce all the birds within your range.It will be initialized at the next round.

pearl herald
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Imagine there was pelican vs pelican

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Magpie (neutral)

The magpie can't be seen by anyone or they die the magpie has to kill without being spotted and have to be the last one standing

calm hare
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considering you typically spawn with 2-3 other players that would be an instant death for the magpie

plush drift
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Is anyone awake

pearl herald
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calm hare
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see, the mechanics don't really make sense. how is the magpie supposed to avoid being seen? they couldn't kill anyone without being seen really

pearl herald
calm hare
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yes, but you ahve to get close to someone in order to kill them, how would they not be seen? vision range is 360 degrees

pearl herald
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There vision won't be that could with the magpie alive

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And magpie can vent

calm hare
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so, a role that forces everyone into flashlight vision when it is alive? I really don't think people would care for that

pearl herald
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they would want to kill the magpie

calm hare
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they would disable the role so they wouldn't have to put up with it

pearl herald
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Fair point

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Poison (goose)

If the poison is eaten or killed the person who ate them or killed them will die in 10-15 seconds if someone killed the person who ate or killed him it would go to them

calm hare
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that's just another example of a role that punishes the ducks for trying to win the game

pearl herald
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And that the vigilante doesn't just kill for no reason

calm hare
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vigilante's punishment is that they possibly reduce the number of geese on the team

pearl herald
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They don't care about that

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  • 1 person out of 16
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That's so much

calm hare
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so your solution to one person behaving badly is to punish the team who's sole goal is to kill the others

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even with the possibilty of being poisoned, that isn't going to stop a rogue vigilante from shooting randomly

pearl herald
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Ik

calm hare
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so again, your idea, and the many like it that have been suggested, only really hurts the ducks

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imagine you are a solo duck and the first person you kill is the poison, game over

pearl herald
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And pelican

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cough cough Canadian

calm hare
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canadian you can get away with

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you can lie your way out, you can distract people

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no one might know who the canadian is

pearl herald
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If there's 5 people 1 neutral 1 duck 3 goose

calm hare
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any role that kills someone for performing their win condition is simply unbalanced in favor of the geesse

pearl herald
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I didn't think about that

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Mystery (duck)

The mystery duck is trying to figure out what duck they are

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(There ability will show but would be blank and would look like you could always use it)

wintry kraken
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How is this benefiting? He’s potentially a duck with no-ability.

pearl herald
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He has an ability he is trying to figure out what he is

calm hare
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I don't really get the reason behind why this role would be implemented, what does it bring to the game?

wintry kraken
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But why?

wintry kraken
wintry kraken
pearl herald
calm hare
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yes, i get that part

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but what does it bring to the gameplay other than one confused person?

wintry kraken
calm hare
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and most of the duck abilities can be figured out pretty quickly as it is

pearl herald
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The button will be black out

calm hare
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yes, i got that part

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i understand WHAT the role does

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I don't understand what the appeal of having it in the game would be

pearl herald
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Everyone will know there's a mystery so if the mystery is the assassin it'll be easier for them to kill people

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Or invisibility

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Or spy

calm hare
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not knowing your role makes it harder on everyone

pearl herald
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The mystery will find out what they are they can get hints if it takes to long

calm hare
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i get the mechanics

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i do

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but what purpose does this serve from a gameplay standpoint?

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what exactly does it bring to the game?

pearl herald
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So the mystery has to find out what they are and trying to help the ducks

calm hare
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i don't know how better to convey what i'm asking and we are just talking in circles.

lavish craterBOT
calm hare
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read that over and maybe it will help you understand what i'm asking

pearl herald
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Paragraphs

calm hare
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Don't know what to tell you there. I've got other things to do however. Have a goosing good day

pearl herald
meager bone
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The witch has to find their spell book located somewhere in the map in order to kill villagers, I still need to think what Thralls can do while a witch is on the map.

Villagers can carry the spell book and place it somewhere else in the map but only once per round.

drifting light
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Witch's Thralls could hex someone, applying some kind of stacking debuff that would eventually kill them if stacked enough.

gusty bone
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What if the villagers can find and move the book, but it's cursed so that they turn into a thrall if they hold it for too long?

drifting light
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Also they can pick up the witch's book. The thrall with the book will see the witch's location and the witch can see the book thrall's.

calm hare
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that sounds kind of fun for a trick or treat monster

meager bone
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Hold a tick, wouldnt thralls reveal the position of the witch if they give then the book?

gusty bone
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Exactly, you’ve gotta play it carefully.
Unlike the mummy or vampire, I could see this being a monster in where need to be the ones following/hunting the thralls, instead of vice versa.

gusty bone
drifting light
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I like that idea. I really like it a lot.

gusty bone
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Thanks :)

drifting light
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Only thing we need now are what the sabos would be

meager bone
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Apart from the blood moon and the other one which name I forgot

drifting light
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For vampire there was one where villager's sight was reduced and thralls movement speed was increased, and another where the thralls can see villagers.

meager bone
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Im'ma write a document about the role as soon I arrive home

drifting light
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For mummy I honestly do not remember, I always get vampire in ToT

meager bone
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Mummy has the same sabos as vampire

tender kiln
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I think I've got the mummy info pretty well covered in my game modes guide

gusty bone
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I’m thinking, what if the witch also has unique spells?

meager bone
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What about reversing all villager controls?

gusty bone
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Even further, what if they were split into one you have automatically, and ones you get with the spellbook?

meager bone
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If you press right, you go left and viceversa

drifting light
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Reminds me of that one spell in Traitors in Salem, it's one of my favourites

gusty bone
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How do you make tap controls playable when things get reversed? dodo

drifting light
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So the clear solution here is to get rid of the mobile platform

meager bone
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Ooooh

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Maybe the witch can give a boost to the thrall that gives the book

drifting light
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Anyway, the 2 normal sabos are what the witch has by default, and the powerful hex sabos when you get the book could be a slowing spell, a slippery spell (all player's movememts have ice physics), and an aoe kill spell.

gusty bone
drifting light
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They can be cast once per book, and reduce the time you get to have the book when you cast one.

gusty bone
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Also, I’ve though of another addition to the “book is cursed” idea to fit with the role:
While you are holding the book, all thralls know your location, and you can’t do tasks (mainly meant to discourage villagers from passing it around)

drifting light
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The only issue I can see happening is if the witch needs the book to kill and the normal geese can see and move the book, they're gonna take it to a corner and guard it for the rest if the game. So perhaps if the book is not picked up by the witch for a certain time, it teleports somewhere else. Or inflicts a debuff that gets worse the longer a goose is near it.

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Eventually becoming deadly

gusty bone
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ToT requires the gees to finish tasks to win.

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Even then, it’d be good to have a deterrent

drifting light
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They need to do tasks to call meetings to vote someone off. The win condition is surviving until the timer hits 0.

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Or voting off the monster, of course.

gusty bone
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Oh yeah the timer

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I forgor that part 💀

drifting light
gusty bone
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Ok here my (hopefully) final book curse draft:
While holding the book, a goose gains a level of blindness every 3 seconds, only ended by being outside of the books range.
While around the book, blindness cannot go away. Additionally, all creatures gain 1 level blindness for every 10 seconds around the book (cumulative, stays for 30 seconds)
The book is able to kill any fully blinded goose in range, or which is holding it (10 second cooldown)

drifting light
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I was also gonna suggest that if you try to "camp" the book, you become insane. You must do a task to calm yourself. If you do not when your madness reaches its peak, the last of your sanity leaves you and the witch remotely turns you into a thrall.

gusty bone
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Now quick note: I’d say that having blindness stack up to 3-4 would be fair, but that’s another balancing quirk.

drifting light
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Perhaps blindness does go away after a while, but doesn't while near or holding the book. Thralls also very rapidly apply blindness while near someone. You die at maybe 5 or 6 stacks. Holding the book and being near thralls can apply the full stacks needed to kill, being near the book will only apply them up to 3. If your stacks would go up to 4 or higher while just near a book, the insanity applies.

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You know what this all reminds me of? The Onryō in Dead by Daylight.

gusty bone
drifting light
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It's a crossover character featuring the creepy girl from The Ring. She can teleport to TV's, and if you are nearby you get a stack of Condemned. You also can turn a TV off, giving yourself a stack and getting the video tape. While holding it you generate a stack every so often until you insert the tape into a specific TV, which removes 3 stacks. If you ever reach 7 stacks, she will see your location and can instantly kill you, bypassing the need to sacrifice you.

gusty bone
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So the blindness mechanic in a nutshell:
1-6: increasing vision reduction
4-5: insanity (needing to do a task to end the condition)
5: vulnerability (can be killed by thralls)
6: Instantly converted

drifting light
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I think 5 is vulnerable, 6 is instakill.

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Also at 4 to 5, the insanity will come back after a period of time being sane from completing a task. The only way to truely prevent yourself from being insane again is to distance yourself from the book long enough to clear your mind.

gusty bone
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So would insanity increase blindness slowly?

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Also, I find it incredibly amusing how we’ve (slightly unintentionally) designed the thralls to work as cult followers, roaming in packs and searching for the all-powerful book to return to the witch.

drifting light
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This is my idea.
Holding a book slowly applies stacks up to the full 6.
Being near a thrall very quickly applies up to 6 stacks.
Being near the book but not holding it can only apply up to 5.
Starting at 4 stacks, there is a chance every few seconds that a spout of insanity hits you, do a task or become a thrall. The more stacks, the higher the odds of a fit of insanity happening. Doing a task makes you sane again, but does not remove stacks. While sane and away from the book, you will slowly lose stacks (until insanity hits again, if you are still in that range).

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Perhaps at 4 stacks, every 5 seconds there is a 10% chance of insanity

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5 stacks, that chance becomes 20%

gusty bone
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Alr

viral dove
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For the witch, maybe her second sabotage be to show where the book is on the map, but it shows it to everyone. The other sabotage (so far) has always been faster thralls and blinded villagers.

drifting light
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Maybe a short grace period where you will not become insane again right after doing a task. Would suck if you did one just to insantly need to do another.

gusty bone
drifting light
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What if one of the sabotages is to teleport the book, in case people are defending it.

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Despite the disadvantages it gives.

gusty bone
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If that’s an option, we need to nerf the insanity/blindness mechanic.
The villagers need some way to defend itdodo

drifting light
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That is true. I do like what we have set up so maybe something else.

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With reduced vision, it may be possible to sneak the book even with people guarding it. And kill any witnesses.

gusty bone
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I think the teleport book sabbo is good design wise, it gives the villagers a chance to try and find it again while also making them have to scatter to find it again.

drifting light
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Perhaps it starts a timer of when the book will teleport.

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Giving the geese some heads up that they will need to move.

gusty bone
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I think the book giving a level of blindness is good, but we shouldn’t go overboard with how vulnerable the geese are near it. Defending the book is their main path to victory here.

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We could make the insanity one of the book sabbos

drifting light
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I do like that. Keep having it occuring naturally at levels 4 and 5, but being near the book only applies a max of 3 stacks.

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To balance things out a bit.

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Non-book Sabo No 1. Global Insanity
Non-book Sabo No 2. Teleport Book.

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Now if we like what we have so far, then it is time for the fun part, the Book Sabos.

gusty bone
drifting light
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Smart

meager bone
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Arriving home in a moment

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I'll be writing a doc about the role

drifting light
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We are making sure this at least gets a chance of getting in. Don't you worry dodo

gusty bone
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Ok so:
A spellbook is placed in a random location on the map
Book gives stacks of blindness slowly when standing near it (1 every 7 or so seconds, max 3) and faster when holding it (1 every 4 or so seconds, no maximum)
A thrall within kill distance adds 1 stack of blindness.
Blindness
1-5: increasingly lower vision
4: Insanity (10% every 5 seconds)
5: Vulnerability (can be killed by thralls), insanity rate upped to 20%
6: instant death
Blindness naturally goes away (from thralls) when the thrall is out of kill range or (from book) every 3 seconds you spend away from the book
Insanity
When afflicted with insanity, blindness will not decrease and you have 20 seconds to finish a task, otherwise you turn into a thrall.

drifting light
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This seems good.

gusty bone
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Ok now the fun part

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I want to give the witch a slow kill time to incentive using spells

drifting light
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Now for the book abilities. I've changed my mind about them being sabos. Would be kind of annoying to have to pull up the menu to do the cool stuff.

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So now they are abilities, perhaps one ability to toggle which spell you want and another to cast the chosen one.

gusty bone
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I was thinking that they were in the sabbo menu, but you had to use your ability to cast them

drifting light
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So you pull up the menu, choose the one you want, and then ability to cast it? I feel having one toggle button and one cast button might be less clunky, but what's your opinion?

gusty bone
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Maybe a case-by-case basis would work better

drifting light
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That's fair

gusty bone
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For example: maybe we could try a Vulnerability spell, instantly giving all villagers 5 levels of blindness for 10 seconds (ends immediately after)

drifting light
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So right now I'm thinking one spell acts like a very very fast acting warlock ability. Engulfing a room or building in flames giving little warning.

drifting light
gusty bone
drifting light
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I do want one "supportive" spell that either enhances your and your thrall's movement and abilities, or hindering the villager's movement. Though that last one clashes with mobile players and is kind of already done with the vulnerability spell.

gusty bone
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What about a Shadows spell: makes all thralls invisible for 15 seconds or so

drifting light
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Ooh nice, you suddenly start getting stacks and you begin to panic irl as well laugh

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So that's 3 so far. Do we want a 4th or is 3 good?

gusty bone
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Part of me wants a 4th for the nice even number

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But 3 works, we have a killing, a debuff, and a buff

drifting light
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If we do want a 4th, I was thinking an AoE explosion of necrotic energy from the witch's location. Exactly like what the Kamekazi Duck idea was gonna be minus killing the user as well.

gusty bone
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I was thinking a bolt of lightning (line AOE)
Potentially very lethal, but would also give you away if not positioned correctly

drifting light
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I like it, only issue is how to aim it.

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Oh wait nvm I see

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Line aoe, you face the direction you want to throw it.

gusty bone
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Yeah, and then hit the ability/kill button to fry em happy

drifting light
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Might be a bit weird for those who only use wasd to move (can only aim 8 directions), but I personally can't live without wasd + mouse movement anyway.

gusty bone
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Just tell the villagers your making a recreation of the cover of Weezer’s hit 1994 album “Weezer”

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Works every time dodo

drifting light
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So we have an indirect kill spell, a direct kill spell, a debuff spell, and a buff spell.

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I really like this spell list, now what would be the cost of using these spells.

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And how long will you possess the book.

gusty bone
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You can only use them once, and then they need to individually refresh

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Which gives us some options:
-once per round
-once per game
-once per book
-X cooldown

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I think once per game, while extreme, would make them be a more strategic choice than a fire&forget

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And you have 4 of them so

drifting light
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I think I do prefer once per book. With maybe some of the very strong ones like Summon Vunerability being once per game.

gusty bone
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I’d argue that Fire, Lighting, and Vulnerability are all once per game levels of strong

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I like that, maybe Shadows replaces teleport, and then Shadows and Insanity both lower your book time by 10 (with a shared cooldown)

drifting light
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Oh so Insanity is still available with the book?

gusty bone
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Maybe, that’s a new point to discuss

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Perhaps it’s replaced with vulnerability instead (and teleport just leaves)

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Like, on the spot where insanity was, vulnerability replaces it

meager bone
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Got a mockup of the doc

drifting light
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Vulnerability does seem like a stronger version of Insanity anyway. One only mimics the effect while the other straight up puts you on that spot.

gusty bone
drifting light
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a few dodo

gusty bone
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Just a couple dodo

meager bone
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Document is open to edit if you wanna add something

gusty bone
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Lemme get onto my computer real quick

meager bone
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Documenting the PROS and CONS from both Villagers and Thralls

drifting light
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So far, witch is a high risk high reward killer. You have to risk detection by getting your book, which the geese will try to at the very least delay. But if and when you do get it, you are free to rampage all you want while you have it. Just don't waste your extremely strong spells.

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Witch also performs much better in the late game. At the start, unless someone falls to insanity, she has to be the one getting the book. But once she picks it up, she will have at least a few thralls to torment the defending survivors and even fetch the book for her so she doesn't have to.

meager bone
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Any cons for the thralls?

fervent pasture
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Villagers can kill thralls
Villager clear villager that kills thrall

gusty bone
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@fervent pasture lmao your showing up as an Anonymous duck on google docs

meager bone
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I'd say we can prevent Villagers to kill Thralls when holding the spell book as well

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Apart from not being able to do Tasks

gusty bone
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Holding the book now inflicts stages of blindness

fervent pasture
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Wait book?

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What book?

meager bone
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The book the Witch needs in order to kill in Trick or Treat

edgy mango
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Oh

fervent pasture
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where? When?

meager bone
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We're designing a role idea for Trick or Treat

fervent pasture
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Is it here? Or is it done so I can see it

meager bone
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There's a document on the works

fervent pasture
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ok

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What if there is a spell that makes thralls see everything

drifting light
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While you're all doing the doc, I'm gonna throw together some images regarding the witch and her abilities.

meager bone
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Mkay

gusty bone
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Ok, I've made the thrall's blindness max out at 5 so that they have to actually kill the villager

meager bone
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Okie

drifting light
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Posting the blindness ranges in the pictures channel now

meager bone
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I think I can paste that into the document itself

drifting light
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What else might we need a diagram for?

meager bone
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Pasted into the doc

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Meetings are called automatically after x tasks done, right?

gusty bone
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yes

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which is a good thing to add: Insanity tasks don't add to the counter

meager bone
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Would the Witch be able to call out Blood Moon or the other sabotage?

fervent pasture
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I always wanted the thrall to drag the goose while the goose isn’t moving

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But the goose moves slowly when the goose and the thrall are moving the opposite direction

drifting light
meager bone
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alrighty then

fervent pasture
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wait so what’s the witch ability?
Kill geese with spells or find books to use spells?

gusty bone
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The witch doesn't associate with blood magic, just satanic for herdodo

fervent pasture
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At this point we might get a pentagram in the middle of the room dodo

gusty bone
fervent pasture
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Noted

drifting light
fervent pasture
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So you need books to use spells?

gusty bone
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Additionally, thralls inflict a stacking blindness on any villigar near them, once it reaches 5 the villigar can be killed

fervent pasture
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ah yes…throwing dirt in someone’s eye

gusty bone
drifting light
gusty bone
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it's incredibly magical dirt dodo

fervent pasture
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That’s why the witch is attacking the geese…

She needs the dirt but the geese prevents her to get it dodo

meager bone
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As soon the document is done, I'll share a non-editable link of it

gusty bone
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I'm now suggesting

meager bone
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oops

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Fixed

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Can you edit now?

gusty bone
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yeah thanks :)

meager bone
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I guess the spells do appear on the "sabotage" map or they are done directly by pressing 'Space'?

gusty bone
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Sabbotage

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Lightning bolt specifically readies up a "space" ability

fervent pasture
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Cool documents

gusty bone
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I've added a fun flavor section if anyone has any spooky ideas they want to add engineer

meager bone
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Mkay

gusty bone
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@meager bone I'm done with the doc once yall are ready to send it out engineer

meager bone
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mkay

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Lemme do a commentator link

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This would be the commentator link

gusty bone
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Honestly this was really fun to work on with yall dodo

meager bone
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I added all three to the document

gusty bone
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ToT monsters are always a blast to design because you can kinda go ham with them

fervent pasture
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that’s how people feel when they make a role only for their idea to be turned down/make that role as a inspiration for the upcoming role/gamemode

fervent pasture
meager bone
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Thralls are literally Zombies

fervent pasture
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But what about the REAL zombie with a semi-real zombie

gusty bone
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Well who’s to say there can’t be a variety where a King-Zombie takes control

drifting light
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Then perhaps the monter player is the Zombie Lord.

fervent pasture
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Exactly what I meant

gusty bone
drifting light
gusty bone
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LMAO XD

fervent pasture
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Ah yes our ideas are…

drifting light
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Listen, I am on pure 2 am brain energy right now.

gusty bone
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This just in, Shrike and walliam are the exact same person!?!

fervent pasture
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man I can’t think of any zombies pun sad

meager bone
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What cars do Zombies drive?

gusty bone
meager bone
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Monster Trucks

fervent pasture
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what is zombie favorite meal instead of brains?

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Gravey

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Anyways seriously…it would be funny for the zombie monster to be in modern and the mansion/goose chapel

gusty bone
meager bone
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I hope this gets added

fervent pasture
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Can I say my ideas with you?

meager bone
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It has been fun to do

fervent pasture
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If we making zombie king idea

drifting light
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We certainly worked very hard on it. Hopefully it doesn't instantly get the "Hey, I just suggested a role, can we add it" bot message.

gusty bone
fervent pasture
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It feels like a jump scare

gusty bone
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Though it might be a while before anyone sees it due to it being a result of us denying ourselves sleepdodo

fervent pasture
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Wait you don’t get sleep?

gusty bone
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Not today I didn’t, It was role designing time dodo

fervent pasture
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Well let’s do it again happy

bleak imp
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Hi

fervent pasture
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Insanity [duck]

Ability: there can be 2 type of insanity and it’s randomed:

  1. the goose will walk backward(it takes 6 seconds after the insanity marks them)
  2. insanity makes the victim see different colors and names and costume in meeting and different position for the meeting(but they can still skip)
gusty bone
meager bone
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I was thinking about a role that gives a more deeper voice, but...

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I know the party duck gives acute voice cause of helium, but what or who could give a more deep voice?

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Hmmm

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Scientist [Duck]
Gives one geese a more deep voice during meetings

Context: Sulfur Hexafluoride can give a deeper voice

fervent pasture
gusty bone
fervent pasture
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But VC would make it useless because of highlights yellow thing so they should be removed when someone is going insane…

The chat bubble? Well they don’t know what the insane goose sees and hears so the name color and position will make them feel confused

lavish craterBOT
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@torpid dragon

Looking for a group to play with?

Select your language in #lfg-language to access your language's LFG channel, and then post a code there or join a game.

pearl herald
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Toucans (neutral)

The Toucans hate each other so much that they are trying to get the other one voted out if they get the other toucan voted out they win

tawny dagger
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so Duelling dodoes combined with executioner

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but what if the other toucan dies

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in town of Salem is the executioner's target dies they will become a jester

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Will the toucan become a dodo

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@pearl herald can you answer my question please?

pearl herald
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And the alive one will just lose

tawny dagger
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oh

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that's confusing

pearl herald
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How

tawny dagger
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it's confusing when you didnt mention that

pearl herald
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Ok

fervent pasture
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But…what if toucan died early?

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wait so basically you win even tho you died?

tawny dagger
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pray

fervent pasture
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so you want the toucan to get voted out even tho he died

tawny dagger
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same for dodo

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you win if you die

fervent pasture
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I…still don’t understand

pearl herald
pearl herald
buoyant crow
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That's what duelling dodos does

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Except slightly more
.. Direct most of the time

pearl herald
buoyant crow
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Right. I misread.

Such a role wouldn't work because one toucan could win at compete random.
I've actually seen the idea pitched several times already.

pearl herald
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If your dodo and you die at spawn you just lose

buoyant crow
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As does any neutral that dies

pearl herald
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But dodo can't protect themselves

fervent pasture
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The dodo can defend themselves from the other dodo…

pearl herald
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I forgot about dueling dodo

deft sleet
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What about a vampire role where you could turn others to vampires the objective is to turn everyone but the survivors have guns or knives

leaden daggerBOT
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Have you tried out the Trick or Treat Gamemode?

pearl herald
deft sleet
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I need to try that

sonic prism
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%role Runaway(Duck): Instead of being voted out, all geese gain the ability to kill you. Can't vent when "Wanted".
Not really much to the role itself, just buys the duck some time at the expense of proving a goose by killing the runaway.

drifting light
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Reminds of the Runaway Snitch from Untrusted. I really like it, though I'm not quite sure it would work in ggd.

calm hare
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I don't really see the utility of the role myself

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ohh wait

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so you mean if they would be voted out they instead get to run free and try not to get killed

drifting light
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If they get voted out, they run away from their execution. Now the geese have to kill them themselves. Although, any and every goose can do so.

sonic prism
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Yeah, so they get a little time to delay their death

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So they may as well go down swinging or die trying

drifting light
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Would vigi use their one shot to kill an exposed runaway

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Or do they get a free hit on them.

sonic prism
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A freebie because it's not their own kill but the one given to them

calm hare
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it definitely would create chaos while everyone tried to hunt down the duck

sonic prism
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That also helps, drawing attention away from any other threats to the geese. Pretty much anything that involves the geese going out of their way to catch the runaway is a positive for the ducks just because they would have been dead anyways.

drifting light
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If it does become a thing, it would be funny if they had a special animation for surviving their execution. On the space maps, they hang on for dear life and get back on the ship, for example.

sonic prism
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Wears a snorkel when being dunked, pulling out a hang glider to fly away from being eaten, jumping out the coffin. That would be a very funny touch but I guess it cutting to "The Runaway has escaped" also works and doesn't need any animations.

calm hare
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not as fun though 😛

buoyant crow
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I think it more fitting that you aren't informed the runaway has returned.
I would assume the runaway duck also has all their abilities (including killing and venting) removed, otherwise its just a nerf to geese voting.

This would also encourage players to keep track of who is voted out and give the ducks a slim chance to win on numbers at the end of the game (which would likely also force players to stop goofing off in the final few rounds and constantly skipping)

dim oracle
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Scanner(goose): can scan a person to see what team they are on can only be done once a game

calm hare
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that would give the geese entirely too much information

fervent pasture
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Yep…they might save their scanner until the end of the game to find 1 last killer for a easy win

tender kiln
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Yeah, they don't want to add roles that can definitively find out that someone is a duck. There has to be counterplay.

whole widget
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It's the very reason why people were complaining about the old detective.

RIP old detective.

fervent pasture
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Still missed the old medium…sure it was imbalance but it was fun to see the ghosts and the duck ghosts tricks the medium…

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But it was understandable why it should be nerfed

void halo
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Old detective still didn't confirm someone was a Duck though. Plenty of non-Ducks that can kill

turbid bolt
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Foreman (Goose):
-once per round, you can check a bird to see how many tasks they have completed (fake tasks count towards this total).

Foreman fills a similar role as detective, but will instead encourage everyone to do tasks to avoid suspicion from the foreman. As the game is currently, I rarely notice ducks or neutrals stopping and completing fake tasks, so maybe it would be a bit too powerful

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On the flip side though, a lot of geese do not do tasks much or at all either. So it's not all-powerful or simply a confirmation as to who is good vs bad

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To go with the Foreman, perhaps we could have

Butler (Duck):
-Doing fake tasks decreases your kill cooldown

Or, alternatively,

Butler (Goose):
-You can instantly complete up to 3 tasks by interacting with them, but you can't do more than 3 per round. Resets after a meeting.

Butler Goose could introduce a strategy for ducks where they only do 3 tasks so that if scanned by Foreman, the Foreman may assume they are a Butler, as Butler cannot do more than 3 tasks per round. But this is counterplayed by the fact that Butler instantly completes them, and if anyone sees the duck doing those tasks, they will know they aren't a Butler

fervent pasture
whole widget
fervent pasture
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Yea…once you know they can kill you need to think if they are a falcon or a duck…or vigi/sheriff/avenger

turbid bolt
fervent pasture
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interesting

But the butler duck is interesting…I did came up with that idea but making them high cooldown but they lower faster when doing tasks

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because you need to like do a lot of tasks to get a kill faster

So the geese will be suspicious of a goose doing tasks OR they just don’t pay attention…but yea the butler can choose to not do tasks or do tasks

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so the butler duck can be a mind games for the geese

turbid bolt
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Perhaps Butler (Duck version) could have a higher kill cooldown, but with ducks like serial killer that progressively reduce their overall kill cooldown, it wouldn't make sense to have a duck that killed normally yet still suffered a much longer cooldown. I think it's more fair to take 2 seconds or something small (percentage based on total kill cooldown duration, if possible) off the Butler's active cooldown if they complete a task. But that wouldn't be a permanent buff, though. It only takes time off if you do a task while it's in cooldown mode

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It already takes time to do tasks as it is, and you might be safer running away, so there's definitely still risk vs reward involved

fervent pasture
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True…make it like 5-7 second remove per task?

turbid bolt
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If kill CD is set to 10 seconds in Classic, it wouldnt make much sense at all to do tasks, unless maybe the Butler's NEXT kill cooldown was reduced? Like say, you do 3 tasks, it resets 30% of your CD automatically when you kill? But only for that kill down. It resets

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(But there would have to be a limit on how much it can reset, I think)

drifting light
turbid bolt
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True, still seems fun, as when I am a duck I do a lot of tasks anyway

fervent pasture
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I don’t do it that much…since there are like geese killing and neutral killing I just don’t do tasks

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and focus much on surviving as a duck

wintry kraken
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Almost all games I play nobody did tasks

fervent pasture
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I just do sabotage tasks as a duck and that’s it…
But if there was a task I have to pretend in front of someone and I happen to have one there I just do that

buoyant crow
viral dove
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I will say I don't like the instantly-completed task idea, because then what else are you going to do for the round? Also, unless they are paired like the Lovers, I don't think duck roles and geese roles should share a name. You could, however, turn the butler goose into a maid goose, to have them indirectly paired.

turbid bolt
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also, adventurer is confirmable. Just wait for a duck to call any sort of environmental sabotage, like the mummy, and dance around it. Role confirmed

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so clearly, confirmation of roles is not an issue here

turbid bolt
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they are separate ideas

fervent pasture
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Lemme set this out for a few disadvantages:
Sheriff: ducks and falcon can claim to be sheriff by attacking a random person and say: “they were bad”
Mortician: spy could fake them too if they killed a specific target that isn’t Canadian
Adventures: true but you need to be trapped in order to be cleared

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But mortician can be faked by a few ducks/falcon/pelican that can somehow outsmart the unsuspected geese

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But then again…you are right about the mummy part but hey it’s fun dodo

turbid bolt
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doubtful. People rarely fake mortician since it's a hard role to get away with. What if someone dies and you're asked to guess their role. You can't keep guessing right, even if you did spy on one particular person before killing them

tender kiln
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Say you pressed report by accident, easy

fervent pasture
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true…or claim mortician and say: “I haven’t seen bodies”

I did that way to win as a duck with 2 geese clearing each other with another goose who is a bit sus

viral dove
# turbid bolt so clearly, confirmation of roles is not an issue here

It's not that roles cannot be confirmed, but they should be somewhat hard. Adventurer can only be confirmed with the help of a duck, which might not happen in a game. Locksmith can prove their role if enough people are sent to jail. However, they won't always be able to do so. A role that can confirm themselves on their own would be too easy.

fervent pasture
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Yep…you need SOMETHING to confirm yourself and not the “easy way to confirm”

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but then again there are ducks falcon and pelican who will fake claim them(and dueling dodo use that strategy to win)

turbid bolt
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"easy way to confirm" cough cough Eville cough cough

tender kiln
turbid bolt
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it was a reference to the game Eville, in which a certain role can "reveal" themselves with the push of a button

tender kiln
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Never heard of it. Is it any good?

turbid bolt
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it's another, less popular, version of the social deduction genre. It's basically a medieval RPG where you go on quests, collect resources, and craft stuff that will help you and your team against the opposition. There's usually two killers, I forget what they're called, tasked with killing everyone in the village

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it could be a really good game, but it's still a young game and there aren't a lot of players playing it right now. It's interesting in concept but feels a bit unbalanced at the moment, or maybe that's just me not understanding how it works

fervent pasture
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Oh yea…that game

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well it’s different from the GGD…so uh…yea

fervent pasture
drowsy sleet
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In sapients defense, I have had games where I confirmed someone for the rest of the game just because I saw her use the adventurer ability because of a duck wanting me dead. Even if it’s hard that doesn’t mean it’s not effective for hard-clearing.

pale wigeon
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I got a role idea

Reviver (goose)
-when you report a dead body, the dead body can talk till the end of the meeting, however this few seconds would cost you your LIFE!, which means both of you are dead by the end of the meeting.
[ 2 types of reports, (normal report {R} or revive report {Space}) ]

I don't think it's overpowered as the dead body might be a duck or the killer is a viglante or avenger or sherif!

react to my idea if you like it

lavish craterBOT
viral dove
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Communicating with the dead is a big no-no. Even if it's not a duck who killed, it does identify a killing role, which is quite limited. Hard to talk your way out of killing the person.

sinful mortar
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%suggestion
Kamizake goose
A goose who can explode yourself killing the player around

calm hare
sinful mortar
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Ok

viral dove
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Actually, it was kamikaze duck, as a duck who can kill multiple people with their own life.

calm hare
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Yes, i just saw kamikaze and figured it was supposed to be a duck role. It would make no sense as a goose role to me

buoyant crow
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Last I heard it was likely not going to become a role, but who knows.

young lantern
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Relocator
Team: Duck
Function: Avian carcasses will be relocated to a random room except for inaccessible areas whenever they die.
Note: might teleport to a random goose out of nowhere staring

sudden rampart
young lantern
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Architect
Team: Goose
Function: Activate the ability to build a conveniently existing wall that lasts for 10 seconds. Cools down 30 seconds per use.
Note: Placing a wall near an entrance will force you to block the entrance.

calm hare
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That would cause the same issues as a trapper role. You could block off entire sections of the map where no one could access it

sonic prism
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%role Defense Attorney(Goose): Your skips are worth double.
Not really much to the role besides having a stronger influence in preventing an ejection. While voting generally helps the geese, the attorney gives the some extra room to acquit a player they view as innocent. It may also be inclined to place a vote on a player just to prevent triggering its effect.

mint gale
sonic prism
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Well yes, that's the point. Its to prevent a vote you don't want, acting as a buffer for pushes/dodos. I kind of liked the idea of a role with a play style that doesn't fit the norm.

lethal leaf
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Librarian duck - You know the role of the last player killed (like medium, but not ghosts). (Librarian because these players are stories now). You can use it to fake a role and help your teammates to fake too.

crystal echo
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Escape Artist Duck- After a kill, you can randomly teleport to anywhere on the map, but cannot use vents or hiding spots

buoyant crow
lethal leaf
toxic cloud
crystal echo
toxic cloud
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Yeah the escapist role can set a point to teleport to after killing someone.

crystal echo
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I honestly didn’t know that. Killed that idea

pearl herald
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SERVANT (goose)
The servant has a master if the master of the servant dies the servant dies who ever the master of the servant votes for the servant votes for whatever team the master of the servant is on is what team the servant is on the only way the servant wins if the master of the servant survives and the master of the servants team wins to

calm hare
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so...basically lovers that have to vote with each other?

pearl herald
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No the servant has a master but the master has there own role

buoyant crow
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So it forces the properties of lover on one player (but not the other), removes their ability to vote freely and results in a potential team swap?

Its an interesting idea, but not suited for classic.

pearl herald
pearl herald
buoyant crow
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So the master is always a Goose.
The way it was written, I imagined it as a modifier

calm hare
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"An extension of this are roles where you control another player’s actions. Really you’re just disabling their whole game at that point and the lack of agency for a player on the receiving end of that sucks."

buoyant crow
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In that case, I tend to agree with Kitzah, this is just the lovers role with one half immune to dying (a lovers death) and the other stripped of choice while voting

pearl herald
lavish craterBOT
calm hare
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Revival roles, and roles that talk to the dead are a no go

pearl herald
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Eagle (neutral)
The eagle can go really fast when it likes but when they do they character will lock like an eagle to everyone else they only win if they kill everyone

calm hare
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so speedy falcon

pearl herald
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Yes

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I was thinking of making a goose that

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But than the ducks will know who to kill

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Bufflehead (neutral)

The only way the bufflehead wins if there target gets voted out if they target gets killed they will have a new target if they die there target will stay the same

lavish craterBOT
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The role you suggested is quite similar to one from modded among us!

It's possible that this inspired you, or perhaps you coincidentally developed a similar role. In terms of the general design direction, we're trying to build a different game and we aren't really looking to replicate the roles found in modded Among Us! But thank you for taking the time to make a submission, we love this type of community engagement

pearl herald
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I want to know the ROLE!!

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Swooper=invisibility

tawny dagger
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invisibility is pretty old though

pearl herald
tawny dagger
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swapper toh: tor

pearl herald
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Poisoner (goose)
If the poisoner dies whoever killed or ate them will die right after

tawny dagger
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suggested a role similar to that it was too overpowered

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so it was denied

lavish craterBOT
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Rule 3

RESPECT your other Geese (or Ducks)!

fervent pasture
pearl herald
pearl herald
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Toucan (neutral)
The toucan has 4 players that they have to keep from getting voted out if they all get killed but none of them voted out the toucan wins if they all survive to the end the toucan win the only way the toucan loses if one of them gets voted out if one of them gets voted out the toucan dies and loses

pearl herald
pearl herald
jagged ether
buoyant crow
waxen oasis
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Nerd: tasks count as x2 for the task bar (Because literally no one does tasks and people troll or go afk)

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^goose role

waxen oasis
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^not op just Hate the singular being that doesn’t do their tasks

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^(and has 30% more tasks than anyone else)

calm hare
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Tasks are more meant to be a timer that pushes the ducks to kill, not a sure fire way to win the game.

waxen oasis
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Have u been in a round that the ducks take 30 minutes to kill 1 person?

white karma
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%role Possession Duck
Map desired for this role:
Goose Chapel
Ancient
Jungle
Basement

Ability: Possession
Able to possess any goose/neutral.
Require to tag the target first before possess.
Cooldown: Long

Ability: Shared Kill
Standard kill button with shared cooldown among possessed player and duck.

Under possessed condition;
The affected goose target will lose control within short time and will be met with black screen. The goose/neutral be able to kill and controlled by the possession duck and at the same time the possession duck can't control on himself until the spells goes off. If the duck success for a kill using his puppet. The kill cooldown will be apply on his cooldown.

If the possession was a goose/falcon which has ability to kill. It will not cause death penalty (Sheriff) or One-Shot Kill (Vigilante, Avanger) wasted.

Mic effect?:
The goose be able to use his vc on him/herself while in black screen and the duck will remains muted until effect goes off.

lavish craterBOT
fervent pasture
lethal leaf
toxic cloud
buoyant crow
crystal echo
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Role: K-9 Goose

It spawns a little furry friend to sniff around the crime scene and locate something on the killers person to narrow down the suspects. Cooldown is 40 seconds.

whole widget
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dear god...

meager bone
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Not sure what to feel about that role tho

viral dove
crystal echo
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Guess I should have specified. Yes it requires a dead body and how it would narrow it down is by some of their clothing, color of clothing mostly and not the color of the goose or duck as that would be broken or if they are not wearing any clothing, the k-9 could track the killer down to their last known location besides where they killed

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Or if possible the design or patterns of the clothing

young lantern
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Mayor
Team: Goose
Function: Your votes are doubled. Your votes get tripled if you get voted out by 1 vote.
Note: deezstaring

sonic prism
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deez whats?

young lantern
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just deezstaring staring staring

void halo
sonic prism
void halo
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Anyway

lavish craterBOT
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The role you suggested is quite similar to one from modded among us!

It's possible that this inspired you, or perhaps you coincidentally developed a similar role. In terms of the general design direction, we're trying to build a different game and we aren't really looking to replicate the roles found in modded Among Us! But thank you for taking the time to make a submission, we love this type of community engagement

gusty ravine
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I know many people suggest roles with other bird names and such but if there were to be one I have an idea. It would mess up another player's ability. So a party duck would get partied themself or enginer would see a random location when something happens. I figured the name peacock would be funny. It would probably be a neutral and could only win if it was the last survivor or something

whole widget
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Peacock as a name has been suggested many times before, but your idea could work with proper balancing maybe

lavish craterBOT
gusty ravine
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I know the name itself has been said before I'm not very creative of names but I mostly said the name since I know many people would probably like it

minor finchBOT
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it's a good read

whole widget
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I guess it is kind of like disabling someone's ability, since making it wonky is just a more roundabout way of doing it

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yeah nvm that wouldn't be allowed

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It's not disabling if you're being technical but it might as well be since that'd just render their ability useless

viral dove
sonic prism
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%role Pharaoh(Duck): You can temporarily gain control of the Mummy.
Using your mind powers to control the mummy works pretty much like the astral, being a short time of color blindly rampaging while you stay idle, but as an added condition, you cannot hear other players, just to prevent you knowing who a duck could be by voice.
Astral isn't that good right now so I thought why not tried making stronger and cooler version of it as a duck role

buoyant crow
young lantern
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although, i gotta say that it can cause chaos

viral dove
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@young lantern Instead of that edge case, I would suggest an idea that I had proposed a long while ago. The mayor's vote actually counts for 1.5 of the vote, so that if you tie with another player (or skip), that would actually win, instead. A small part of me wants it to only be on maps with a jail, just so people don't know if it was a mayor or a politician who escaped a bad tie.

sudden rampart
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ive got a great mayor rework

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that i dont want to reveal because i think people would be disappointed if we didnt do it

frosty bone
# sudden rampart ive got a great mayor rework

Doing alot of tasks - being able to see who voted on the same person you voted on. Only works if minimum 3 players voted on somebody. The more taks you do thr higher % of voters you can see.

sonic prism
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The politician got elected?

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Do you get to steal the mayor's office?

fervent pasture
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Only 1 way to find out

ivory prism
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My English expression may be wrong Because I used a translator for some of my word（like "Dementor"）
I don't know if anyone thought about it before

Reincarnator（ Goose）

When you are killed, you cannot see the role of living players. Your ghost can attach to a living player and talk to him.
Only he can hear you
When your host is killed, you will also die. When your host is killed by a dementor duck, you will control the host's body instead.
You can also attach to a body that has lost its soul.

Dementor （duck）

You can directly kill the player's soul, and his body will stand in place and become a shell, which will disappear in the next report.
Players can report corpses when they are close to the body.
The Reincarnator goose killed by the dementor duck will die directly and cannot attach to other players

fervent pasture
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but…if the reincarnation goose will tell the host who killed them…and you will say who’s a dementor duck when you finally took control of your host

So uh…basically you’ll be revived and that’s is gonna be op even tho dementor killed reincarnation goose first

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That’s why nobody have thought of that…because it’s reviving you and you can take 2 birds with 1 stone

ivory prism
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maybe i didn't have a good expression

fervent pasture
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ehh it’s ok…even tho your role has a few scenarios where it’s OP at least it’s fun to come up with a idea so it’s alright

ivory prism
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I'm trying to organize the language

whole widget
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I think they mean that the Reincarnator's spirit can speak to only one specific living person directly from the dead. Rather than possess them.

Which still wouldn't work, since that ghost could tell the person who killed them. Would be OP.

ivory prism
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just like the pelican

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the reincarnator is like someone be eaten

fervent pasture
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Well there is a part where it said: “if the host is killed by dementor, you will take control of the body”

Sure it isn’t possessing because your host dead but you’re given a 2nd chance

ivory prism
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and the host is pelican

whole widget
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Oh I overlooked that part

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my bad

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yeah that would be far too OP

fervent pasture
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Sometimes I can be blind so it’s alright dodo

ivory prism
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but they maynot believe you

whole widget
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I mean, if people hear it's a different person speaking

ivory prism
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you can cheat that a ghost tell you something

whole widget
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kinda easy to tell lol

fervent pasture
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I mean…

whole widget
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yeah you could lie about the ghost, but bringing it up is still enough to put sus on someone

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not really fair for the killer

ivory prism
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so

fervent pasture
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Yea

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Even tho people won’t believe you they will however keep that in mind

ivory prism
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But this game can be customized

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if you have rein

fervent pasture
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rein?

ivory prism
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you can set more duck or more nel

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reincarnator

fervent pasture
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oh

whole widget
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Dementor is pretty much Professional, except with empty shells instead of geese self reporting

ivory prism
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i think the dementor is not OP

fervent pasture
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true…dementor is alright

ivory prism
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the duck can kill a goose in a flock

fervent pasture
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pretty decent but the same as professional

ivory prism
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and the goose be killed just stand there

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yes

fervent pasture
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you just leave the evidence…but does it self report when killing a Canadian?

ivory prism
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a different professional

whole widget
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there should at least be some risk in killing someone though

fervent pasture
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And can vulture/cannibal eat it?

ivory prism
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i think it should self report

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i think the vulture/canniba will directly see the "true body"

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not a body stand but a

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dead body

whole widget
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I mean if it self reports, it really is just professional with one extra step

fervent pasture
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Yea…a regular duck but leaves the evidence of a eggshell

ivory prism
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but it can Interact with reincarnator

fervent pasture
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You can immediately kill a reincarnated goose…but still

ivory prism
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He has a better place than pro

fervent pasture
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You just have 1 useful thing to kill a goose immediately

whole widget
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I think that Reincarnator would be a hard no, Dementor could perhaps make it in

ivory prism
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No automatic reporting

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..I think it's OK to have some “OP” characters. very game role can be chosen by players.

whole widget
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Dementor is debatable, really. It's not a bad idea but it would be OP if he kills where people have tasks

fervent pasture
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yeaaa about that…you need to come up a role that is useful for something but has a drawback

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To make a game balance

ivory prism
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Would it be better to delete the resurrection if dementor kill the host the rein cannot resurrect

whole widget
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Well, I'm pretty sure the rein won't make it into the game period

fervent pasture
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well lemme tell you a fun fact:
Medium USED to have a ability to see ghosts, but is rework since some people use ghosts to guide them to a duck

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you wouldn’t like to see a medium in private lobby with role reveal that a ghost leads a medium to a killer

whole widget
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Yeah I think the medium would say to the ghost something like

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"spin around whoever killed you in circles"

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and some people would troll and spin around the wrong people

fervent pasture
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Even tho the ghosts might be a duck trolling a medium it’s still annoying if you are accused by a medium

fervent pasture
ivory prism
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i think the rein can choose a host inLimited time

whole widget
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I wasn't there to witness the first version of Medium, but that's what I've been told

ivory prism
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like 5 s

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if it cannot find someone it will die

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so it may attach to a duck

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it can play music

fervent pasture
fervent pasture
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It can be a falcon who killed you or a pelican or a vigi

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but then again…you just say pelican eating you

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so yea. . .reincarnated goose is a little OP

ivory prism
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But the information comes from the living goose. There is no reason for others to believe it

fervent pasture
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like I said: even tho people won’t believe you and some might defend the accused they will keep that in mind

ivory prism
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it just like a More complicated Canadian

fervent pasture
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but the reincarnationed goose might talk to a goose that is confirmed

ivory prism
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every player can pretend that there is a ghost in his body

fervent pasture
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No one knows the goose role or there can be no assasssin

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and you just talk to them

whole widget
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Some killers play the long game and earn people's trust

ivory prism
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no the rein'ghost cannot see the role

fervent pasture
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you can like talk to them for the rest of the game

Sure you can say: “well you might not talk to them for second time”

whole widget
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If someone comes up and is like "Ghost told me X killed them" that kinda ruins that trust

fervent pasture
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But you get the idea

fervent pasture
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say for example:
You said: “the dead said that X is a murderer”

The goose will say: “what was the password?”

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technically true the goose that ask the password might be a duck or neutral

ivory prism
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password..

fervent pasture
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but it can be a person the recantation believe is a goose

ivory prism
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But this situation also existed before

fervent pasture
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when?

ivory prism
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Canadian

fervent pasture
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…

ivory prism
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and many player know the password

fervent pasture
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that’s a different case

ivory prism
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if you dont have a ghost in your body and you know the password

fervent pasture
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Different scenarios

ivory prism
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and the rein died

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This is solvable

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if only one goose your password

fervent pasture
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like just hear me out…Since there is a proximity chat in both private and public, the recarnation goose will say the password if they have a mic

ivory prism
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just like only goose know your role is canadian

fervent pasture
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HECK let’s not forget they might tell 2 or 3 people the password

ivory prism
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just like only one goose know your role is canadian

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and the assassin knows

fervent pasture
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like I said…

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it doesn’t matter if you die as long as a goose who manage to keep their role hidden knows your password

ivory prism
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like canadian tell 3 "I am canadian ,reporter is thekiller "

fervent pasture
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SURE they might die but they might pass a password to a person they trust

ivory prism
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just like tell a person they trust that someone is canadian

fervent pasture
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well let’s not forget

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You might also be a ghost communicate with a person

ivory prism
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the rein always cannot know anyone's role

fervent pasture
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you will also say the password so the next person you come across who you believe is a goose will say this

fervent pasture
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ok you don’t know some people roles but you can at least know who is sus and who isn’t sus

ivory prism
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maybe the "safe" player smarter

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and he is duck

fervent pasture
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perhaps

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but either way there are a lot of scenarios where this role is very OP…for the better or the worse

ivory prism
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I think this role will lead to many interesting plots

whole widget
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It would affect gameplay a lot more than you may think

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"Oh I saw X kill X!"

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"Yeah I killed him because a ghost told me he's a duck"

ivory prism
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“but the ghost is in my mind ! your are duckj”

whole widget
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just the fact that people would know the reincarnation goose is in the game, people will use to their advantage

fervent pasture
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now I have another question:
How do you communicate with a ghost? Text box or vc?

ivory prism
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like pel

whole widget
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it's like people being paranoid about assasin existing

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it's the same mentality

ivory prism
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oh sry

fervent pasture
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it also have a chance to might discourage a duck for killing

ivory prism
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I misread it

whole widget
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it's okay

ivory prism
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So this character may not be very helpful to goose but it will cause a lot of interesting confusion

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role i mean

sonic prism
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%role Recon(Goose): You can detect the number of non geese currently alive.
The information of checking how many non geese there are could prove the sheriff, can "confirm" ejects to a degree, and can give the geese feedback on how ahead or behind they currently are, which could sway the direction of meetings. It would be pretty sad if you check and see nobody else is a goose though. sad

ivory prism
whole widget
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There's no such thing like bad role ideas, it's just that everyone will always try to exploit anything they get their hands on.

Along with a mix of already existing roles that can change events severely during gameplay.

ivory prism
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%role Reincarnator(Goose):

When you are killed, you cannot see the role of living players(always). Your ghost can attach to a living player and talk to him/her(in limited times to find a player).
Only he can hear you（just like the pel）
When your host is killed, you will also die. When your host is killed by a dementor duck(another original duck role), you will control the host's body instead（undetermined）
You can also attach to a body that has lost its soul(it is hard to succeed).

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%role Dementor(Duck):

You can directly kill the player's soul, and his body will stand in place and become a shell, which will disappear in the next meeting.
Players can report it when they are close to the body(push R .. not auto).
The Reincarnator（another original goose role） goose killed by the dementor duck will die directly and cannot attach to other players

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is that the format

lavish craterBOT
ivory prism
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One thing I don't understand is that many of the roles created by players are not perfect. Will developers see these and modify them?

whole widget
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They might not all make it into the game, but they do read everything and sometimes use some of the ideas as feedback yes

ivory prism
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so how the bot work

whole widget
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It's an evil robot, bent on mass destruction. It kills the innocent, and uses their blood to fuel it's engines. As such, it is immortal.

It's also a fast command that devs and mods have, to quickly inform people that a role that was suggested won't be a good fit for the game.

ivory prism
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I really hope developers can see and consider these roles. I have imagined many interesting things caused by these two roles

calm hare
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They have said before that they don't want communication between the living and the dead.

fervent pasture
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and that’s why the medium was reworked

ivory prism
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but i think its a different way

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If developers really hate all kind of“ communication between the living and the dead” its okey

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but i think these role is kind of different and have more fun

calm hare
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Also, if this goose takes over their host's body when they get killed that would be a revival role, which is another variety they have stated from the beginning that they do not want to implement

fervent pasture
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yea…just a “death is permeant” and there is no other ways to cheat death

ivory prism
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so they can delete revival

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delete the revival In this way, there is no direct way to confirm whether there is a ghost talking to someone in someone's body. Unless you use a password, there are many cases of using a password. We have discussed

fervent pasture
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Canadian is a password for letting people know they are Canadian…

The dead role however is when you were asked for a password to let people know that: “they’ve been told by a dead”

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You know…password that the dead told you information

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but seriously…now that I think about it…you are a ghost and you need to possess

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but what happen if you don’t possess someone? You just kinda spectate someone and see if a person killed

ivory prism
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after the limited time if the ghost cannot find someone to attach to,the ghost will die and become a true ghost like other normal ghost,

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This is possible to reduce the help reincarnatior can actually provide to the goose to the same extent as canadian and retain other effects of this role on the game

gusty bone
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Let me put it simply: GGD classic is a knife fight. You’ve designed a gun to bring to it.

ivory prism
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I don't think it's appropriate ..You wouldn't think so if you read the discussion above

gusty bone
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No matter what limiting factors you add onto it, it’s always gonna either out damage/accuracy the throwing knives, or be unwieldy and unfun to play due to the limitations

ivory prism
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I admit that this role makes the game more complicatedbut but any new role will not change the mode you like to play. After all, you can choose the available roles by yourself，This character can bring more interesting plots, and the anchor will want these things to happen,Maybe this game will need such complicated role that cause confusion in the future

sonic prism
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Solution: Bring more guns. And if that doesn't work, use even more gun.engineer

gusty bone
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The reincarnator effectively out-classes the Canadian because
1: you don’t need to rely on the person you revealed yourself as the Canadian to stay alive.
2: you don’t have to immediately worry about potential assassins, as you can now only reveal your role once dead
3: you can directly out who the killer was, instead of it being behind a report (which could’ve been a professional, or just a body found if you haven’t told anyone)

gusty bone
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Man been ages since I played TF2

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Now it's just filled with bots nowadays

drifting light
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The bots have more or less stepped back now, actually

ivory prism
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These are relative because no one knows who the reincarnator is, and no one knows who is lying We can make up a story ,,duck can use it to .. players can set the complexity of the game by themselves. If they want to be simpler, they can not choose this role

drifting light
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They'll probably be back but I haven't had a bot lobby in a while

gusty bone
drifting light
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If you kill the canadian before they get to claim, it is a very easy role to fake.

ivory prism
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So the role's ability to help geese is on average close to Canada

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But it will cause a lot of random confusion

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which is interesting

gusty bone
# ivory prism So the role's ability to help geese is on average close to Canada

I fully disagree here
The Canadian works by causing a situation on death, one that the ducks can work around, exploit, and try to avoid.
The Reincarnator works by letting you give all information of who killed you to whichever player you want. The ducks can’t play around this, as this exact situation can’t be faked or recreated.

ivory prism
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But when you provide the goose with this way of speaking, duck also gets the same way of cheating. What's more, reincarnator may not be attached to the goose

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So I said it is relative

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So in case of uncertainty, this role only gives players a suspect, which is the same as Canada

gusty bone
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The Canadian can end up telling a duck that they’re the Canadian in the first few moments of the game.
The Canadian can be faked at any time if the ducks are able to talk their way through the meeting.

ivory prism
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assassin？

gusty bone
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Just because your role has a chance of failure, doesn’t mean it’s equally powerful as one that has a higher failure chance.

drifting light
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Assassin is typically evaded by claiming in the last few seconds of the meeting while votes are being revealed anyway.

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Then trying to get yourself killed before the next one starts

gusty bone
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Let’s try a different angle:
I get the options of the Canadian, Reincarnator, and my least favorite GGD role in Draft mode.
What’s the case to be made for me picking the Canadian over the Reincarnator?

ivory prism
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Because they are different, but their help to good people is close

gusty bone
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No, I want the list of Pro’s and Con’s for choosing the Canadian in this situation

ivory prism
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If you want to have a discussion about "whether there is a ghost in someone's body" in the game, you can choose Reincarnato

drifting light
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I think the discussion isn't about is somekne has a ghost in them. It's about this role doing the Canadian's job but better.

gusty bone
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Yeah, I’m talking power-wise

drifting light
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Also there are already so many roles that punish the ducks for killing, I don't think anotber would be healthy for the game, especially if it is similar to the Canadian.

ivory prism
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But we don't always choose roles for power, right? We choose roles for fun

drifting light
gusty bone
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But feeling inferior to another role can sap out all the fun.
If I see someone expertly evade my Canadian abilities because they were able to deduce who I was before hand, now I’m just thinking “welp, I should’ve played the Reincarnator”

ivory prism
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After such a long discussion, only when Jenso can clearly understand the role's greatest role, its existence is the most important, and the specific information provided is not important

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The reason for choosing this role in the game is to cause more confusion and funny things

drifting light
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Confusion for the sake of confusion for a goose role isn't the best way to design a role.

gusty bone
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Listen: the experience is great and all, but when adding something to a game, you can’t just think about how fun it is to play as. You need to also think about how fun it is to play around.

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Imagine a Duck role that can chain Geese’s souls together, and have both of them die at once. It sounds like a fun idea, until you realize that you’ve now made a role which can cause someone across the map to die for seemingly no reason.

ivory prism
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Because of the existence of reincarnatior, every player can take advantage

ivory prism
gusty bone
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May I introduce you to: hypotheticals

drifting light
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No they understand, they are trying to tell you that just because a role is fun to play as, it doesn't mean it will be fun to play against.

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Another one that gets suggested often: a duck role that refreshes their kill cd by doing fake tasks. Really cool idea, but now geese are getting voted off for "doing too many tasks."

ivory prism
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Because of the existence of reincarnatior, every player can take advantage,the role is not so powerful as you think

gusty bone
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how

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And I don’t mean by faking it

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That can happen with every role (except for like, politician)

ivory prism
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This will test your ability to lie. This game is finally a discussion game

gusty bone
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How does that help the ducks

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That’s literally putting them in a position they don’t want to be in.

ivory prism
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It depends on how you win the trust of others

gusty bone
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that is the entire point of a social deduction game

drifting light
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Still is usually an auto lose for ducks if they kill this role. At least with canadian you have multiple options to keep yourself alive. What options do you have if a reinc tells someone you killed them?

ivory prism
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The reintroducer who was killed only knows who killed himself. He cannot see anyone's role. It is not easy to prove that there are ghosts in his body. Anyone can pretend that there are ghosts in his body. The information of ghosts is limited and they may not be able to successfully enter other people's body

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the ghost just like someone be eaten by pel

gusty bone
drifting light
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The information of ghosts is limited? They have all the information usually.

ivory prism
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This is information that cannot be verified

gusty bone
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If it’s a goose telling you this from within your ear and beyond the grave, yeah, it’s pretty trustworthy

ivory prism
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no please please Please read my introduction in detail

gusty bone
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I did
Person A dies
Person A takes over person B and runs to a corner and loudly yells who killed them
Person B then relays this information to everyone else.

ivory prism
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then you believe?

gusty bone
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Plus, if it’s only outward (which I’m reading it and it seems like it isn’t): you’d be hearing Person As voice, coming from Person B, before quickly switching back to person B

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That’s can’t be recreated by any duck

lavish craterBOT
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Rule 3

RESPECT your other Geese (or Ducks)!

ivory prism
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why can't I doubt my ability to express myself

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evil robot

calm hare
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Not the robot making the decisions. You were also disrespectful of walliam. This is the end of that discussion

gusty bone
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Ok
Here’s what the role is from what I understand it as:
When you die, for a short time you can possess someone to talk with them from beyond the grave.
You can’t see roles even with role reveal on.

ivory prism
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i did not mean that If he really reads and thinks about the role, he won't have such a question

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..

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like the pelican

pale brook
ivory prism
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The time for him to find the host is limited. If he finds it, he can coexist with him. If it is a goose, he will tell the information and then give it to the attached player to prove himself. If it is a duck, he cannot explain the information, but you can interfere with the duck

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yes partygame is more need the role i think itis interesting

drifting light
gusty bone
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  • die
  • find trust worthy player
  • possess them and tell them who killed you
  • player either ignores that, or tells everyone else. (Effectively making it a dice roll)
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The Canadian requires you to make your dice-roll first, giving you less time to deduct who to trust, and more time for that person to die.

minor finchBOT
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Remember this is a place to submit and build upon ideas happy Be sure to read the living role document for the basics of things to be considered when submitting ideas for classic gamemode role ideas.

ivory prism
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everything the reincarnatior e can be sure of is "who killed him"，And it's not easy to prove The original intention of this character is to create confusion, provide conditions for lies, and have the same fun as a pelican

sudden rampart
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i had an idea thats somewhat similar

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although revealing it might reveal some secret plans i want to do

drifting light
sudden rampart
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it isn't a goose, it's a duck

whole widget
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OH MY GOD

ivory prism
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oh

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Can I inquire about the progress of skin production of the those Chinese anchorheart you are herbert on steam right?

sudden rampart
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they'll reveal it when they want to

ivory prism
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Maybe my ideas will also give you some inspiration, if you want to have a brief lookheart thank you

sudden rampart
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well, okay, i'll explain the duck role

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i wont share its name, because that might reveal something

whole widget
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👀

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OH SWEET JESUS...

drifting light
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Screencap all this before it gets deleted to keep it a secret.

gusty bone
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Parasite/Alien Duck? staring

sudden rampart
gusty bone
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:[

steep moth
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can confirm it is funnier thor_LUL

whole widget
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OH MY GOD THE TRUTH IS REVEALED

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MY WHOLE LIFE WAS A LIE

sudden rampart
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I can't believe he said that!

gusty bone
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alr who got the screenshot inspector

sudden rampart
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hopefully thats what people will see later

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it was like 3 sentences, you guys cant remember 3 sentences!? lol

whole widget
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I actually cried from joy...the tears slid from my cheeks into my mouth

gusty bone
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Delayed timer, astral body stillness, and Murderous piggyback ride

whole widget
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and I almost suffocated

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nah is just a prank bro

ivory prism
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Did herbird said anything? I didn't see anything

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I've lost my memory

sudden rampart
drifting light
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Hypnotist, maybe

whole widget
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It's actually Casper the Friendly Ghost duck

sudden rampart
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you actually have more information, walliam

whole widget
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FINALLY...

gusty bone
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alright then, lemme open up the Dictionary and go line-by-line till I get it dodo

sudden rampart
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but once you figure out what that means, don't share

drifting light
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Anyway, exam time. Can't stick around.

sudden rampart
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good luck on your exam!

gusty bone
ivory prism
fervent pasture
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Now I’ll never know until it’s released

sudden rampart
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it might never get released

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its an idea born out of RAGE!

whole widget
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dude, I was so shocked that I actually almost had a heart attack

sudden rampart
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(not mine)

whole widget
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nah jk

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sorry I shouldn't joke about that

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but it was crazy I can tell you that

fervent pasture
sudden rampart
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no

whole widget
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It's basicly me during a sugar rush

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I just body slam people

fervent pasture
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welp guess I’ll never know until it’s released in a game happy