The Kriss Vector

[fair breach]

The Kriss Vector is a submachine gun with a special system near the magazine.

This system quite literally mitigates nearly all recoil of the gun, making it really precise for a smg

You could theoretically replicate the guns physics in game, making it a very unique weapon

[shut flame]

The issue with this is multiplayer

In multi it either needs to have normal recoil or be removed entirely

Also does this relate to all Kriss calibers or just the classic 9x19?

I'll slap a image in here tho (without the v-grip tho)

[muted mountain]

Ye it’s gotta be balanced somehow

[shut flame]

The best way I see is two variants

[muted mountain]

How does it get balanced irl

[shut flame]

You just complain in heaven about them needing to balance the guns

[muted mountain]

L

[shut flame]

I mean the only way to balance this is one version for sandbox and one for multiplayer

And changing the damage since the same caliber being fired faster logically should do more damage (a mp5 firing the same 9mm slower should logically do less damage)

[mighty sonnet]

I like it. For balancing, you could just not make it work how it works irl in the multiplayer. Most people wont notice bc lots of other games do this to the vector

[lilac edge]

Yeah like no recoil in zombies and sandbox, but normal recoil in multiplayer. Cool.

[snow cosmos]

I believe the no recoil thing of the vector is its main attraction and removing it in multiplayer would make it not anything special from other smgs. The only way I’d know to balance it would be making it have less damage but I don’t like that much

Or they just don’t balance things and it’s just based on the caliber and other mechanics of the gun in real life

[covert harbor]

You guys are missing the point. The vector doesn’t have no recoil but it is highly reduced. Only way you could theoretically balance it with other weapons is damage range. But it shoots as far as any other 9mm Parabellum will. Same with an MP5, for example. You could just make it extremely expensive in SnD matches and unavailable in TDMs

That or have it to where you have no stock, or make it to where you have a limited amount of ammo.

[fair breach]

I love how all these comments are about balancing.

Like none are against the gun itself, it’s just a really well made weapon.

The problem is its recoil mitigation system lol

[covert harbor]

Again, limited ammo is all I can think of, that or stock deletes. That or base level weapon would be no stock.

[fair breach]

Smaller mags could also work

[covert harbor]

True.

[shut flame]

Because that's the main thing we need in it

[toxic frigate]

If the gun is any setting where it is not spawned in it can just be made rare or expensive to balance it

[fair breach]

Exactly

[shut flame]

I don't think we are getting a economy shooter or a exfil shooter in the game

[toxic frigate]

If the game includes stuff like rpgs and powerful weapons the less useful ones become obsolete, if you spawn the weapons in yourself there is no point in complaining about the power because it’s your choice to spawn it

It is a sandbox for a reason bro

[covert harbor]

I love how this is literally nothing but pure love for a marvel of weapons engineering and we’re all trying to just make it even for everybody

[covert harbor]

True. We could very easily have modders put a high quality Dust map in it and play SnD