#Inefficient Developers

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daring shard
small island
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(definitely looks like ur latency defeated you.)

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(charge ur device btw)

daring shard
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@small island Look carefully at the ping

small island
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Bruh, charge your device.
No wonder ur having issues.

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Your cpu throttles on low battery to conserve energy.

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Ofc the performance of your game app will be reduced.

daring shard
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Don't draw your own conclusions

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And stop defending the devs

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This is clearly a server issue

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Are you blind or what

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@small island Look at the ping. It goes back to normal once I get knocked

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Had it been a latency issue

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The ping would've remained the same way

gloomy sky
gentle star
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Regardless of your clip, I don't see any lies in the title.

small island
daring shard
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I have played the game with less than 10 percent battery level too

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Seldom encountered resources not rendering

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The servers are of such low quality that they just aren't able to handle a lot of real players.

small island
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You cannot reasonably expect perfect performance on low battery.

daring shard
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@small island There have been instances of such issues even when my device is charged adequately.

small island
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I wouldnt doubt ur causing alot of ur own problems.

daring shard
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@small island you can't ignore inefficiency of the devs and the NS servers too.😑

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@small island Yep. I'm developing the game😎

small island
daring shard
gentle leaf
gentle leaf
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fck accidentally double pinged

gentle leaf
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read whole @outer junco

outer junco
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I have disabled thermal throttling idk why i get high ping WeirdChamp

gentle leaf
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don't bother replying to anyone here

outer junco
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@gentle leaf btw wanna play?

gentle leaf
small island
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Thermal Throttling,
is a different type of throttling,
not what i was talking about.

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Anyway, you cant exactly conclude its the servers or devs fault,
when you havent actually secured your end user device to perform optimally.

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low battery, is not exactly an ideal troubleshooting
baseline to start from.

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|| Charge ur device if u want to credibly rule out Throttling as a result of power consumption. Shrug ||

small island
gentle leaf
gentle leaf
gentle leaf
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the fact here is that the game is poorly maintained you can defend all day long and still to me what you said doesn't make any sense.

terse tangle
gentle leaf
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My latency still be in 100-120ms in mena and other servers just don't ask TrollDespair

terse tangle
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Bruh everyone knows new state servers are so bad TrollDespair

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European & North East Asian servers are good
They invest in those regions

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I think it's a budgetary issue

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Kim said that NSM is for advanced countries

terse tangle
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Living in N. Europe I have never faced any server issues
Ping is 29 ms
Japanese streamers also show good performance

gentle leaf
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mann this sht game and this trash community if i speak truthfully.

terse tangle
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Singapore is advanced but tricky considering NS regions

gentle leaf
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i used to get low ms on my previous network but after moving to a newer area and getting better WiFi my ping is now red in SA unplayable it was stable in mena like 39-56 but after the update it IS 100+ and still people say low charge. TrollDespair

small island
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MENA latency has always been trash.

terse tangle
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Most of the Arabs play on Europe

small island
gentle leaf
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you're doing it on purpose to create an argument to seek my attention Don't ya.

gentle leaf
outer junco
small island
gentle leaf
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and as for "helping" i won't call that helping someone by pointing out the fault they don't have in them.

small island
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So your saying his battery wasnt low?

gentle leaf
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what makes you sure that player was on low battery then?

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that battery icon?

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which msot of the time bugged out

small island
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He literally uploaded a video of his game at low battery.

small island
small island
gentle leaf
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breuuuuuuh KEKW

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mann i have a lot to say but I am thinking in what way i could answer so that your dog like brain could understand.

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like seeking attention?? seriously why would i need to do that KEKW

gentle leaf
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mannn you yourself is an attention seeking freak and calling others a freakin "attention seeker" doesn't suit you.

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KEK mannn I'm ded

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you done or should i stay here to give you more attention?

terse tangle
small island
small island
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Glad we agree.

gentle leaf
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@terse tangle patch note feedback out

gentle leaf
small island
gentle leaf
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you're seriously that desperate to seek my attention??

small island
gentle leaf
gentle leaf
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battery percentage after these tdm was 68% btw.

livid tartan
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BigSlowCat

gentle leaf
gloomy sky
vital haven
terse tangle
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India is unevenly advanced between the states & cities, lobbies merging make it even more difficult to interpret

Vietnam is a better example

Apart from ping, stability, TPP base Europe also has the advantage of separate shops, Turkish (Stambul is a part of Europe) & CIS players got native parachutes

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So I believe they just invest in those regions more

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but that doesn't make sense considering that more than a half of European server are not Europeans
It works as a Global server for competitive games

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Many are ready to sacrifice ping to face some real enemies

small island
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Or dont.
No skin off my teeth.

gentle leaf
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i knew you lil piece of sht gonna say this.

swift hearth
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What do u expect from a game where when u r going to pick up ammo from the floor it disappears from the loot menu lmao

small island
swift hearth
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Funny *

small island
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Hmm, i have more of an issue where it auto picks up a weapon, and replaces the one i had equipped,
despite me not selecting it for pickup,
that drops me wild.

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Oh yknow what, when my inventory is near full, and i try to pick up more ammo than can fill my inventory,
the difference disappears.

That's the only thing ive notice as far as disappearing ammo, altho thats anywhere ammo is picked up from, not just loot boxes.

I keep forgetting about that

swift hearth
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Bro what i mean is when it gets auto picked up and theres an amount left i can see the amount on the left but in that pick up menu it vanishes n comes back

small island
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okay yeah i havent had that problem

cloud tide
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It very annoying that the loot move around when your aim move left and right(especially on gyros and multiple crate in 1 place)

Loot should not move with aim.
Try to pick ammo , sorry you tilt ur phone 1 ° while doing that,the loot in crate disappear

gentle leaf
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idk if it is the same with you or not

swift hearth
gentle leaf
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well i do agree that codm is better optimized like i can run it on 90fps easily and less buggy as compared to NSM but i don't want to go back to it.

gloomy sky
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Loot item sorting is inconsistence, they must keep the most needed item on top of other item rather than changing in random

swift hearth
# gentle leaf Bro the last one <:KEK:819939564407357471>

Bro this game is for rich people end of discussion also dont tell me skill issue bro cause most of these players have uninterrupted connection that let's em kill an enemy fairly quickly while my net doesnt even let kill a bot with lvl 1 armor rq

gentle leaf
mental mauve
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yeah there r some serious problems with server

winter night
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you swap out the gun that you have equipped

winter night
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where you can loot and move and jiggle left and right while doing that

cloud tide
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I seen people doing that

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Shouldn't this game be like pubg pc like you all want?

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Doesn't make sense that tilting the phone will make the loot shuffle in loot crate

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It should be stationary

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Nsm is weird
The nade trajectory don't change with gyro tilting
But loot position changes with gyro tilting

It should be the other way

winter night
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the radius for the loot crate to be accessible isn't as large as pubgms

cloud tide
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You don't get it

winter night
cloud tide
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I said with multiple crate in 1 place

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1 crate is no issues

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When multiple crate

It shift 1 crate over another when you tilt

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Will show you video how annoying and unlootable it is

winter night
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Hmm then an easy fix would be to copy the one from pubgm which they did right

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What they do over there is have just one menu of all the loot crates that you can access from that spot

cloud tide
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It take 1 min to find the crate in which loot you want is ... And if you tilt phone that loot is gone.

Take too much time

winter night
winter night
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but it's also because the loot crate accessible radius is smaller than that of pubg mobile

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where it's significantly larger in size

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and you can comfortably abuse the moving while looting mechanism

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it's not skill based

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pretty much anyone can do it

cloud tide
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Everything is small with nsm
Small player based
Small melee hit box
Small loot box
Smoll b**b
CatShock

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Ok last one was unnecessary

winter night
winter night
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yea i know can be hard sometimes

thorn ivy
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If its because latency why the no 3 was afk? If just letency why does the parachute close immediately, but is still hovering? It should keep hovering until normal latency. Its suspicious

livid tartan
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oh nahhhh

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thats too op lmao

terse tangle
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South Asian server is the worst in NS
I don't see such frequent sequences of unstable connection notifications & teleportation while landing & moving on other servers

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Just have finished South Asian weekly league, the amount of players in the lobby is ridiculously small, twice & sometimes trice smaller compared to the time when the League was first introduced or even previous season

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And 1\3 are cheaters & use cheats which I have not seen in NS before

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Beta "Death cam" doesn't help, shows players running backside (in opposite direction to red dot) & finishing enemies with AR single shot which is not true
Even spectator mode works much better than this "Death cam"

gloomy sky
cloud tide
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SA server is full of hackrs

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East asia , asia , south asia
All are Same

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I guess Asia and east asia better cuz south Asian has another problem.. people are just 🐀

livid tartan
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no creativity

terse tangle
terse tangle
cloud tide
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Ok pubgm is changing their whole game

vast cedar
terse tangle
# vital haven Virtue

No, something like RichieRich but I don't suspect him, from my perspective it's just a random nickname from the ranking system

Have not heard about Virtue though but definitely heard about Virginity after so many attempts to promote him & his attitude

gentle leaf
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even codm has Bullets penetration through light obstacles.

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||why nsm sucks||

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|| Sadge ||

drowsy grotto
drowsy grotto
gentle leaf
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too

drowsy grotto
drowsy grotto
gentle leaf
drowsy grotto
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yeah

mental mauve
rose niche
drowsy grotto
terse tangle
# rose niche <@500347520128516106> so why you want newstate to become irrelevant

Only those who don't know the history of NSM or over enthusiastic kids by nature can expect this game to become relevant

Now we simply can't defend NSM because of the harsh reality of this 2 years old game

They don't have another 1.5 years to port Deston or Rondo if the current target is only 24 players lobby

And they have shown their capabilities with Night Mode, after four to five consecutive months of decline they delivered their biggest failure

The only way to make further attempts is retirement of unproductive units
Also they should increase the number of units in crew & announce that in dev letter
Do you expect that they have budget & courage for that? Is there any reason for such expectations?

rose niche
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The same people i saw shouting for apex to shut down...are the same i see crying for us that i miss apex...now if newstate shuts down dont say aword just forget it ever existed..

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So you mean is played because of rondo or deston...any game can survive wiz its own maps...not just copying...have not said i dont want the maps...but that wont be the coz of the failure of NSM...the failures are bad servers, poor marketing,bugs etc but not pc maps

terse tangle
# rose niche The same people i saw shouting for apex to shut down...are the same i see crying...

I did not support the idea of PC maps during the 1st year of development
I understand the advantage of exclusive content, just NSM devs can not make justice to that term & redefine it by simplification & marginalization of PUBG open-world

Also I'm still against Vikendi & other maps present in mobile brands, I'm referring to Deston & Rondo because they're still exclusive for mobile platform

Even in dev letter they had the guts to admit that the community's priority is a PC map, just they're struggling with matchmaking

And it's too late to fix those issues, it's a simple maths

I had never been an Apex player
Also I opposed negativity & defended NSM
Last months are not about negativity, it's just a common sense

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Without new bigger team & budget anything looks impossible
Especially now

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And they should inform the community about the major changes in crew if they want loyal players to keep supporting this game

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Also you are referring to "poor marketing"...
What is the point of having marketing if they don't care about WOM?

drowsy grotto
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If you think Newstate can survive on Exclusive maps, I'm not sure where you are at when Akinta and Lagna maps were launched

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Nobody plays Lagna, majority of the community is still asking for Miramar 2051 or any 2051 themed classic maps

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Akinta is played because of these reasons

  1. Faster matchmaking
  2. Default map
  3. Short time for match
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These 4x4 maps are far from decent

terse tangle
drowsy grotto
drowsy grotto
terse tangle
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Now it's not free-to-play game
It's pay-to-play kids

drowsy grotto
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that's an indication of a declining state of the game

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if you require a constant incentive to just open the game for a while, that's where you can say game is at it's all time lowest in terms of engagement

cloud tide
# rose niche So you mean is played because of rondo or deston...any game can survive wiz its ...

I don't want nsm to shut down, but if it get shut down i would not be surprised, it pretty clear where is the game will go if nothing is changed,

Also you mentioned the reason for nsm failure is bad server, poor marketing, bugs etc

I agree but whose fault is that , is it players fault that the game have this issue, when ever there is a problem e.g network issues the game take ages to fix that or they will just ignore and say oh its a network problem not a server problem, change your internet.

People will definitely leave after that.

The reason for failures of nsm is also lack of player , because the game can't keep them entertained and there are no in game events location this makes the game very repetitive(no change to core gameplay or map).
And any br game if it becomes repetitive people will lose interest and we are seeing this in real time now.

It good that people are optimistic about the game but anyone can see the condition of game.

And we can totally forget the idea that new player will play this game regularly over a long period, bcz truth be told the game as of now is in no condition to do that and get newer players

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Hope the dev team finally understand

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|| or maybe they do but they just don't care ||

terse tangle
# cloud tide I don't want nsm to shut down, but if it get shut down i would not be surprised,...

There is a difference between being an optimist & being delusional
After November update there is no room for optimism
Ken argued with us so many times & started from DM but it's all about emotions & zero facts, so far he hasn't made any solid argument, it's more interesting to read AI-generated opinions than such "honest opinions". May be he thinks that can safe NSM by putting the alarm clock back. This time even self-fulfilling prophecy won't work from our side simply because we already lost enough of players to stop taking remaining seriously.

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I believe most of the critics want to be wrong & that's the reason why currently it's the main topic & may be the only discussed thing

terse tangle
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They're doing that only to get fees from their bosses, neither they are honest nor passionate

rose niche
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But for sure the developers have failed us...but look at the fact that there is no new mobile br game that has boomed and got as many players as pubg and cod ...maybe most players are locked in those games thats why these games new games fail...not only newstate...
People want to expect these new games to meet the demands as those old games that have been there for years...do u know that even pubg mobile had suffered wiz da same problemz before but its because at that time there was no option..they were the only one available to play

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Thats why i dont blame krafton alot coz he came with a right track but just changed the game because of the pressure of people who exepected newstate to be like there favourite games..now the game is dieing people are complaining that the game should be as it was....but remember the majority are the one who complained for faster gunplay...graphics to change..so krafton maybe cared at first but he also got dissapointed people dont know wat they want

cloud tide
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Pubgm set the bar too high

Sure at that time only br was pubgm they have no competition but look they are bringing pubgpc feature faster than nsm (which supposed to to pubg pc on mobile)

That why when this game can not bring simple feature or take 2 year to bring simple common feature like death cam "beta" people are going to be disappointed.

You are giving too much credit to game dev
Lemme tell you my personal experience

In season 3 and 4 i had a terrible server issues in the game.

"The game customer service told me server are fine , check your network or change it"

I used 2 different wifi and 2 different sim(data network)with 2 different phone

And you know what i found?
No matter which internet i use i wasn't able to play a single game.

I reported it to c. Service multiple time

And i even involved cosmic sheep(such a nice guy and was server mod/ community manager i think)

I told him everything in detail how it all happened and no Matter what method or how many different internet service i use ,it yeild the same results

And after so much talking, recording and editing the video
The dev still didn't fixed the issue for 1.5 month

I left the game for a month and came back and continued playing

I guarantee you, if this happened to any other he would have never looked at this game again

(This was just my personal experience which was totally game fault, and if you ask why i am so sure , it because i tried everything possible, the one thing i didn't tried was going to another country and to check if server are still not working)

Btw server issue were with other people too but mine was a special case and even cosmic was surprised why it isn't working, i still have video of those issues on my private yt as a proof .
People also have issues with Twitter logins people were unable to login to game for 2 week

(I don't blame dev krafton for this bcz it is related to Twitter)

But still people didn't login using Twitter and left.

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Krafton didn't care in the beginning and doesn't care now

terse tangle
# rose niche Thats why i dont blame krafton alot coz he came with a right track but just chan...

That's a misconception inspired of 2022 narratives

In 2023 the demands were not high
Most of the loyal playersbase was OK with the fact of NSM not being the toplister

Also we already forgot about E-sports
As much as the changes in graph & movement were disappointing in 2022 all that stuff became bearable in 2023 because we already used to that garbage

The only demand of 2023 was stable TPP lobbies & decent monthly updates to keep the minimal required playerbase not getting bored

It's the main conclusion
2023 is worse than 2022
And late 2023 is worse than early 2023 in any department
With this kind of dynamics NSM will end up with 12-16 players lobbies next summer

rose niche
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Maybe krafton is making another game thats why he is killing this game..what ashame

terse tangle
mental mauve
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this is mobile shooter based on PUBG IP

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this is mobile Onilne Board game

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and this is mobile ARPG game

terse tangle
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Exactly
What is the point to invest into failed project if they can continue the expansion with the variety of projects
Then shut down failed ones & focus on successful

drowsy grotto
gaunt fossil
drowsy grotto
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So doing this rename had an impact on the popularity of the game

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Also that tweet was really in poor taste

gentle star
terse tangle
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It looks like spamming with PUBGism

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"We are the most PUBGish game in the world"

gaunt fossil
# terse tangle "We are the most PUBGish game in the world"

The only fault is, it's not PUBG, they promised something else, the provided something different

They just used the PUBG name for promotion, all they could brag about was next-gen graphics, which they failed to get on mobile

I can't see any of the big promises getting fulfilled

The game was supposed to continue the lore of PUBG in the future

I ain't seeing any serious plot of lore in this game. They've abandoned it

terse tangle
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I even found the historic prototypes of Hunters in many cultures

mental mauve
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yeah but NSM's graphics has BIG potential to become a next-gen graphics game

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However dev team set graphics conservatively...

gaunt fossil
mental mauve
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even current version also has big potential

cloud tide
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If you put everything to max in graphics, of course it will look great

But the reality is will people really set graphics to max setting while giving up fps?
And are people willing to do that?

The best graphics in my opinion are those that look great (crisp clear contrast between environment and player)but at the same time keeping the fps stable

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Sure the game has to look good

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But also have to be felt smooth too

mental mauve
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At least they should show results that match what they promoted

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however current one looks not much great as they promoted, even on Ultra graphics (not on custom graphics, case of ingame ultra)

gaunt field
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so i read the starting of the feedback
imo ,

  1. Charge doesnt matter if u have a good phone but still ill suggest playing at above 15.
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  1. Dont Play On Max Or High IF u have a trashy phone
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i only read the starting convo between cat , mika , blaze and the op

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so pls dont get on me

drowsy grotto
# mental mauve

I'm not sure why they locked away the draw distance for all devices and even for all in game graphic presets

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a 30m increase in draw distance will definitely improve the overall look of the game

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The maps, foliage it all just comes down to the dev whether they have the creativity and resources to build quality assets

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but the graphics settings limitations should be adjusted

drowsy grotto
# mental mauve

I wish Troi would be dense like this in supposed Forest areas

brisk shadow
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Trash servers
Takes ages to fix a stupid bug
Doesn't hear to their community
No Communication from the community team
No advertising
No sponsorships
Takes months to add a major update but screws up and makes it a stupid mode
Hires employees for other titles but not their product from PUBG IP which has crazy potential from their garbage board games

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I swear if Krafton invests their 6 months with all resources in this game they can save it and make it stable at least

gloomy sky
terse tangle
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Ultra is a joke which takes 10 fps

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away

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And the current night mode looks better even on Lite than on HDR ...shame!

terse tangle
brisk shadow
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They fired the only person who was looking over the community which was cosmic sheep. If big businessman don't think like that then they would have enough brain cells to not fire an important executive

terse tangle
brisk shadow
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If new state is just a testing ground for PC and Mobile then they shouldn't have made the promises and advertised the game like this

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This is just scam to players then

terse tangle
brisk shadow
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It's literally the sequel it's mentioned on their website

terse tangle
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Those rumours rubbished a long time ago

mental mauve
terse tangle
mental mauve
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in the concept of pubg universe

brisk shadow
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Anything else u got to say?

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They said in 2021 itself in road to troi something video that new state is sequel of Original PUBG set in 2051

terse tangle
terse tangle
brisk shadow
mental mauve
brisk shadow
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Black budget has nothing to do with PUBG storyline

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It has a different story

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Still based in PUBG universe

terse tangle
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You are referring to Lore & not the game

mental mauve
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theres only black budget which is pc game & under development

terse tangle
brisk shadow
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PUBG 2.0 isn't even in development

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They don't even have plans to make it

terse tangle
brisk shadow
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Rich of you believing in data miners but not to the official Source

brisk shadow
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Player IGN isn't affiliated to PUBG so why should we believe to him

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I know he is a trustable source but would you really believe a third party over an official source

mental mauve
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But there isnt pubg 2,0

brisk shadow
terse tangle
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That's just a hearsay name still popular among CC's
C-Dome spoke about that also while reviewing Rondo

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NS still not perceived as a sequel in those circles

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When we say sequel ppl think about more realistic version of PUBG

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With the next set of maps because 10 already too much for one title

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Like sequel not to the lore but technical aspects