#Inefficient Developers
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@small island Look carefully at the ping
Bruh, charge your device.
No wonder ur having issues.
Your cpu throttles on low battery to conserve energy.
Ofc the performance of your game app will be reduced.
Don't draw your own conclusions
And stop defending the devs
This is clearly a server issue
Are you blind or what
@small island Look at the ping. It goes back to normal once I get knocked
Had it been a latency issue
The ping would've remained the same way

Regardless of your clip, I don't see any lies in the title.
Bruh, ur device is powered insufficiently to support stability of network performance, app performance,
and any performance your device is tasked with.
Google "cpu throttling".
You think wifi doesnt require stable
power to support a stable network??

I have played the game with less than 10 percent battery level too
Seldom encountered resources not rendering
The servers are of such low quality that they just aren't able to handle a lot of real players.
@small island There have been instances of such issues even when my device is charged adequately.
@small island you can't ignore inefficiency of the devs and the NS servers too.😑
@small island Yep. I'm developing the game😎
For a team of 3 devs,
id consider that very efficient

Lol.. what😛
@outer junco Charge your device if you get latency issues 
do you know that charging icon/indicator is buggy
fck accidentally double pinged


read whole @outer junco
I have disabled thermal throttling idk why i get high ping 
don't bother replying to anyone here
@gentle leaf btw wanna play?
Thermal Throttling,
is a different type of throttling,
not what i was talking about.

Anyway, you cant exactly conclude its the servers or devs fault,
when you havent actually secured your end user device to perform optimally.
low battery, is not exactly an ideal troubleshooting
baseline to start from.

|| Charge ur device if u want to credibly rule out Throttling as a result of power consumption.
||
Oh, you think server side isssues are the only factor in existence that affect latency?
Cute.

didn't say what you're saying nor meant to say that.

at 100% charge i get 110+ms in MENA when i used to get 30ms
sadly it can be server issues too if you see
It happened to me also 

the fact here is that the game is poorly maintained you can defend all day long and still to me what you said doesn't make any sense.
100% is also bad
Anything between 70 & 95 is optimal
My latency still be in 100-120ms in mena and other servers just don't ask 
everyone knows new state servers are so bad 
European & North East Asian servers are good
They invest in those regions
I think it's a budgetary issue
Kim said that NSM is for advanced countries
Living in N. Europe I have never faced any server issues
Ping is 29 ms
Japanese streamers also show good performance
Singapore is advanced but tricky considering NS regions
i used to get low ms on my previous network but after moving to a newer area and getting better WiFi my ping is now red in SA unplayable it was stable in mena like 39-56 but after the update it IS 100+ and still people say low charge. 
Most of the Arabs play on Europe
Which is why your rule out the factors you can troubleshoot from your end first, to come to that conclusion.

mine used to be stable as i said before idk about anyone.


Cuz helping someone troubleshoot
their issue, is somehow seeking attention.
Riiiiight.
Why dont u tell us some more
about how you quit this game forever, for the hundreth time?

i don't owe you any explanation nor do I need to prove myself whether or whenever i play the game or not.
it's not even like this that you made the game either so that you could question someone "you quit the game, why you playing again" 
||and if you are that desperate to know then blaze asked me to replay the game||
and as for "helping" i won't call that helping someone by pointing out the fault they don't have in them.

what makes you sure that player was on low battery then?

that battery icon?
which msot of the time bugged out

It was a rhetorical question,
used to point out ur habit of seeking attention,
since i have to spell it out for you.

breuuuuuuh 
mann i have a lot to say but I am thinking in what way i could answer so that your dog like brain could understand.

like seeking attention?? seriously why would i need to do that 
my own joke was reversed at me by you.

mannn you yourself is an attention seeking freak and calling others a freakin "attention seeker" doesn't suit you.
mannn I'm ded
you done or should i stay here to give you more attention?

You are using the method of your opponent. I would not recommend labeling, be above it.

"joke was reversed"?
No, i was pointing out your ironic hypocrisy.

Glad we agree.
only you



sufficient battery percentage but crap ping i wonder if it will still be my battery. 
battery percentage after these tdm was 68% btw.
BigSlowCat


Then why they launched for us
India is unevenly advanced between the states & cities, lobbies merging make it even more difficult to interpret
Vietnam is a better example
Apart from ping, stability, TPP base Europe also has the advantage of separate shops, Turkish (Stambul is a part of Europe) & CIS players got native parachutes
So I believe they just invest in those regions more
but that doesn't make sense considering that more than a half of European server are not Europeans
It works as a Global server for competitive games
Many are ready to sacrifice ping to face some real enemies
Definitely a issue on your end, if ur ping is as bad as mine in South Asia.
Also those frame drops of yours,
definitely are a end user device issue.
Maybe you should call ur ISP and upgrade your service to relieve your bottleneck.
Or dont.
No skin off my teeth.

What do u expect from a game where when u r going to pick up ammo from the floor it disappears from the loot menu lmao
You mean, like when loot shifts around in the loot box when u have auto-pickup enabled?
When im looking at loot n when theres that menu that pops up when ur in front of loot the ammo disappears when i try to pick it up bro this game is so bugged its not even dunny
Funny *
Hmm, i have more of an issue where it auto picks up a weapon, and replaces the one i had equipped,
despite me not selecting it for pickup,
that drops me wild.
Oh yknow what, when my inventory is near full, and i try to pick up more ammo than can fill my inventory,
the difference disappears.
That's the only thing ive notice as far as disappearing ammo, altho thats anywhere ammo is picked up from, not just loot boxes.
I keep forgetting about that
Bro what i mean is when it gets auto picked up and theres an amount left i can see the amount on the left but in that pick up menu it vanishes n comes back
okay yeah i havent had that problem
It very annoying that the loot move around when your aim move left and right(especially on gyros and multiple crate in 1 place)
Loot should not move with aim.
Try to pick ammo , sorry you tilt ur phone 1 ° while doing that,the loot in crate disappear
I think I can relate to it cause most of the time when I go pick the ammo and if the ammo is spawned with the gun after picking like 30 the other 30-round pack disappears from the pick-up menu.

idk if it is the same with you or not
Bro this game is just way too buggy n laggy codm is better bro i swear to god even when i get pissed off in codm its normal but when i get pissed off in new state ita different i start yelling n stuff
well i do agree that codm is better optimized like i can run it on 90fps easily and less buggy as compared to NSM but i don't want to go back to it.
Loot item sorting is inconsistence, they must keep the most needed item on top of other item rather than changing in random
Bro the last one 
Bro this game is for rich people end of discussion also dont tell me skill issue bro cause most of these players have uninterrupted connection that let's em kill an enemy fairly quickly while my net doesnt even let kill a bot with lvl 1 armor rq
i used to die from people lagging and teleporting. 
Bro f this game tbh
yeah there r some serious problems with server
That's the most basic feature
you swap out the gun that you have equipped
so basically you're saying it should be like pubg mobile
where you can loot and move and jiggle left and right while doing that
You can do that on pc pubg too
I seen people doing that

Shouldn't this game be like pubg pc like you all want?
Doesn't make sense that tilting the phone will make the loot shuffle in loot crate
It should be stationary
Nsm is weird
The nade trajectory don't change with gyro tilting
But loot position changes with gyro tilting
It should be the other way
No they don't move much
the radius for the loot crate to be accessible isn't as large as pubgms
You don't get it
tf you mean here I don't understand
I said with multiple crate in 1 place
1 crate is no issues
When multiple crate
It shift 1 crate over another when you tilt
Will show you video how annoying and unlootable it is
Hmm then an easy fix would be to copy the one from pubgm which they did right
What they do over there is have just one menu of all the loot crates that you can access from that spot
It take 1 min to find the crate in which loot you want is ... And if you tilt phone that loot is gone.
Take too much time
you can scroll down and check for other loot crates
It good
Don't you think
but it's also because the loot crate accessible radius is smaller than that of pubg mobile
where it's significantly larger in size
and you can comfortably abuse the moving while looting mechanism
it's not skill based
pretty much anyone can do it
Everything is small with nsm
Small player based
Small melee hit box
Small loot box
Smoll b**b

Ok last one was unnecessary

the melee hit box is not small
lol i thought it's just me 
lol
yea i know can be hard sometimes
If its because latency why the no 3 was afk? If just letency why does the parachute close immediately, but is still hovering? It should keep hovering until normal latency. Its suspicious
Nubcat logic

South Asian server is the worst in NS
I don't see such frequent sequences of unstable connection notifications & teleportation while landing & moving on other servers
Just have finished South Asian weekly league, the amount of players in the lobby is ridiculously small, twice & sometimes trice smaller compared to the time when the League was first introduced or even previous season
And 1\3 are cheaters & use cheats which I have not seen in NS before
Beta "Death cam" doesn't help, shows players running backside (in opposite direction to red dot) & finishing enemies with AR single shot which is not true
Even spectator mode works much better than this "Death cam"
Idk man, i'm okay with SA server.
SA server is full of hackrs
East asia , asia , south asia
All are Same
I guess Asia and east asia better cuz south Asian has another problem.. people are just 🐀
no creativity
Some of these rats are 20 fps two thumbs players without regulated sensitivity & layout
Timepass or farming
It's not a problem if they're small kids
The real problem is the lack of competitive or at least proper casual players
||RICHIERAT||

Reminds me of one player with similar nickname
Virtue
A Feitz moment in PUBG Mobile!!
#PUBGMOBILE #BGMI #PUBGM #Feitz
Ok pubgm is changing their whole game


No, something like RichieRich but I don't suspect him, from my perspective it's just a random nickname from the ranking system
Have not heard about Virtue though but definitely heard about Virginity after so many attempts to promote him & his attitude
codm has it if I'm not wrong.
even codm has Bullets penetration through light obstacles.

||why nsm sucks||
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is it not just in Multiplayer?
NSM has it but is limited to cloth surfaces
Of course, someday I wish they would update their character animations and tweak the art style to realistic and then NSM will become irrelevant
oh never noticed it, I stopped playing a long time ago after it basically became cosmetic shop
not enough thoo 
yeah
normal pubgm devs💀
@cloud tide so why you want newstate to become irrelevant
I don't want it but it's already and is becoming further more irrelevant by not updating the core aspects of the game
Only those who don't know the history of NSM or over enthusiastic kids by nature can expect this game to become relevant
Now we simply can't defend NSM because of the harsh reality of this 2 years old game
They don't have another 1.5 years to port Deston or Rondo if the current target is only 24 players lobby
And they have shown their capabilities with Night Mode, after four to five consecutive months of decline they delivered their biggest failure
The only way to make further attempts is retirement of unproductive units
Also they should increase the number of units in crew & announce that in dev letter
Do you expect that they have budget & courage for that? Is there any reason for such expectations?
The same people i saw shouting for apex to shut down...are the same i see crying for us that i miss apex...now if newstate shuts down dont say aword just forget it ever existed..
So you mean is played because of rondo or deston...any game can survive wiz its own maps...not just copying...have not said i dont want the maps...but that wont be the coz of the failure of NSM...the failures are bad servers, poor marketing,bugs etc but not pc maps
I did not support the idea of PC maps during the 1st year of development
I understand the advantage of exclusive content, just NSM devs can not make justice to that term & redefine it by simplification & marginalization of PUBG open-world
Also I'm still against Vikendi & other maps present in mobile brands, I'm referring to Deston & Rondo because they're still exclusive for mobile platform
Even in dev letter they had the guts to admit that the community's priority is a PC map, just they're struggling with matchmaking
And it's too late to fix those issues, it's a simple maths
I had never been an Apex player
Also I opposed negativity & defended NSM
Last months are not about negativity, it's just a common sense
Without new bigger team & budget anything looks impossible
Especially now
And they should inform the community about the major changes in crew if they want loyal players to keep supporting this game
Also you are referring to "poor marketing"...
What is the point of having marketing if they don't care about WOM?
trust me content/maps play a major role in the game's long term survival, but I won't deny the existing issues on Newstate mobile, also nobody wants this game to shutdown and everyone wants Krafton to do better instead of neglecting the title
If you think Newstate can survive on Exclusive maps, I'm not sure where you are at when Akinta and Lagna maps were launched
Nobody plays Lagna, majority of the community is still asking for Miramar 2051 or any 2051 themed classic maps
Akinta is played because of these reasons
- Faster matchmaking
- Default map
- Short time for match
These 4x4 maps are far from decent
Krafton is already working on the next PUBG game for mobile but extraction shooter
That's another reason to think that they are not interested in NS expansion
They already have many other brands for the upcoming years
Marketing ain't gonna do sh!t when your game is not solid and stable
Yeah I know, Krafton is just damn crazy for not increasing the resources on this title rather they are willing to focus on a new one
*when an average player can't convince his friends to join & devs have to give legendary outfits for free to force remaining players to play
Now it's not free-to-play game
It's pay-to-play kids

that's an indication of a declining state of the game
if you require a constant incentive to just open the game for a while, that's where you can say game is at it's all time lowest in terms of engagement
I don't want nsm to shut down, but if it get shut down i would not be surprised, it pretty clear where is the game will go if nothing is changed,
Also you mentioned the reason for nsm failure is bad server, poor marketing, bugs etc
I agree but whose fault is that , is it players fault that the game have this issue, when ever there is a problem e.g network issues the game take ages to fix that or they will just ignore and say oh its a network problem not a server problem, change your internet.
People will definitely leave after that.
The reason for failures of nsm is also lack of player , because the game can't keep them entertained and there are no in game events location this makes the game very repetitive(no change to core gameplay or map).
And any br game if it becomes repetitive people will lose interest and we are seeing this in real time now.
It good that people are optimistic about the game but anyone can see the condition of game.
And we can totally forget the idea that new player will play this game regularly over a long period, bcz truth be told the game as of now is in no condition to do that and get newer players
Hope the dev team finally understand
|| or maybe they do but they just don't care ||

Truth is here
There is a difference between being an optimist & being delusional
After November update there is no room for optimism
Ken argued with us so many times & started from DM but it's all about emotions & zero facts, so far he hasn't made any solid argument, it's more interesting to read AI-generated opinions than such "honest opinions". May be he thinks that can safe NSM by putting the alarm clock back. This time even self-fulfilling prophecy won't work from our side simply because we already lost enough of players to stop taking remaining seriously.
I believe most of the critics want to be wrong & that's the reason why currently it's the main topic & may be the only discussed thing
They consider themselves successful as long as they can complete the plan irrespective of quality of updates, covered numbers & common sense
They're doing that only to get fees from their bosses, neither they are honest nor passionate
But for sure the developers have failed us...but look at the fact that there is no new mobile br game that has boomed and got as many players as pubg and cod ...maybe most players are locked in those games thats why these games new games fail...not only newstate...
People want to expect these new games to meet the demands as those old games that have been there for years...do u know that even pubg mobile had suffered wiz da same problemz before but its because at that time there was no option..they were the only one available to play
Thats why i dont blame krafton alot coz he came with a right track but just changed the game because of the pressure of people who exepected newstate to be like there favourite games..now the game is dieing people are complaining that the game should be as it was....but remember the majority are the one who complained for faster gunplay...graphics to change..so krafton maybe cared at first but he also got dissapointed people dont know wat they want
Pubgm set the bar too high
Sure at that time only br was pubgm they have no competition but look they are bringing pubgpc feature faster than nsm (which supposed to to pubg pc on mobile)
That why when this game can not bring simple feature or take 2 year to bring simple common feature like death cam "beta" people are going to be disappointed.
You are giving too much credit to game dev
Lemme tell you my personal experience
In season 3 and 4 i had a terrible server issues in the game.
"The game customer service told me server are fine , check your network or change it"
I used 2 different wifi and 2 different sim(data network)with 2 different phone
And you know what i found?
No matter which internet i use i wasn't able to play a single game.
I reported it to c. Service multiple time
And i even involved cosmic sheep(such a nice guy and was server mod/ community manager i think)
I told him everything in detail how it all happened and no Matter what method or how many different internet service i use ,it yeild the same results
And after so much talking, recording and editing the video
The dev still didn't fixed the issue for 1.5 month
I left the game for a month and came back and continued playing
I guarantee you, if this happened to any other he would have never looked at this game again
(This was just my personal experience which was totally game fault, and if you ask why i am so sure , it because i tried everything possible, the one thing i didn't tried was going to another country and to check if server are still not working)
Btw server issue were with other people too but mine was a special case and even cosmic was surprised why it isn't working, i still have video of those issues on my private yt as a proof .
People also have issues with Twitter logins people were unable to login to game for 2 week
(I don't blame dev krafton for this bcz it is related to Twitter)
But still people didn't login using Twitter and left.
Krafton didn't care in the beginning and doesn't care now

That's a misconception inspired of 2022 narratives
In 2023 the demands were not high
Most of the loyal playersbase was OK with the fact of NSM not being the toplister
Also we already forgot about E-sports
As much as the changes in graph & movement were disappointing in 2022 all that stuff became bearable in 2023 because we already used to that garbage
The only demand of 2023 was stable TPP lobbies & decent monthly updates to keep the minimal required playerbase not getting bored
It's the main conclusion
2023 is worse than 2022
And late 2023 is worse than early 2023 in any department
With this kind of dynamics NSM will end up with 12-16 players lobbies next summer
Maybe krafton is making another game thats why he is killing this game..what ashame
May be? It's already confirmed on their official Korean website. And it won't be the classics but just expansion of PUBG Universe for other shooting genres, means zero chances that it will reboot NSM or Timi's PUBG Army Attack like High Energy Heroes did after ApexM
PUBG Studios is making 3 mobile games beside NSM
this is mobile shooter based on PUBG IP
this is mobile Onilne Board game
and this is mobile ARPG game
Exactly
What is the point to invest into failed project if they can continue the expansion with the variety of projects
Then shut down failed ones & focus on successful
I don't think the majority requested the gameplay to be fast paced if that's true, I don't think the game would have got insane pre registrations in the first place, most of the players just want the game what it is meant to be rather than what it's trying to be now
I'm not sure why but changing to new state mobile from PUBG new State seems like they were disappointed themselves
And over more thing I remember is, they tweeted as a joke that Apex is shutting down,
Rather than looking at their own game turning zombie
Seems more like they're frustrated and lost all the interest they initially had
I think changing the title to Newstate mobile might have genuine intentions behind it but in reality it conveyed as "This is just a mobile game and only mobile exclusive experience that has nothing to do with PUBG"
So doing this rename had an impact on the popularity of the game
Also that tweet was really in poor taste
That was the worst decision making they ever did.
Sound like alphatard 
I don't think that the logo has something to do with the quality
That was just for initial promotion
They'll drop that for Black Budget too after figuring out how to promote it
NSM still speculates with PUBG title, look how many contexts in this latest description, I think even more than during pre-launch times
It looks like spamming with PUBGism
"We are the most PUBGish game in the world"
The only fault is, it's not PUBG, they promised something else, the provided something different
They just used the PUBG name for promotion, all they could brag about was next-gen graphics, which they failed to get on mobile
I can't see any of the big promises getting fulfilled
The game was supposed to continue the lore of PUBG in the future
I ain't seeing any serious plot of lore in this game. They've abandoned it
I wrote some ideas for plot (not free style but exact continuation with many links & twists) but hadn't share it seeing how regular trollmates reacting when someone posts something longer than memes
Also it became offensive to share any kind of feedback considering the quality of November update
I even found the historic prototypes of Hunters in many cultures
yeah but NSM's graphics has BIG potential to become a next-gen graphics game
However dev team set graphics conservatively...
Yeah, I can see the potential from the alpha tests
But I can't see the intention or motivation since the first April update
dont have to go alpha
even current version also has big potential
If you put everything to max in graphics, of course it will look great
But the reality is will people really set graphics to max setting while giving up fps?
And are people willing to do that?
The best graphics in my opinion are those that look great (crisp clear contrast between environment and player)but at the same time keeping the fps stable
Sure the game has to look good
But also have to be felt smooth too
well bcz devs promoted nsm as Next-gen graphics
At least they should show results that match what they promoted
however current one looks not much great as they promoted, even on Ultra graphics (not on custom graphics, case of ingame ultra)
so i read the starting of the feedback
imo ,
- Charge doesnt matter if u have a good phone but still ill suggest playing at above 15.
- Dont Play On Max Or High IF u have a trashy phone
i only read the starting convo between cat , mika , blaze and the op
so pls dont get on me
I'm not sure why they locked away the draw distance for all devices and even for all in game graphic presets
a 30m increase in draw distance will definitely improve the overall look of the game
The maps, foliage it all just comes down to the dev whether they have the creativity and resources to build quality assets
but the graphics settings limitations should be adjusted
I wish Troi would be dense like this in supposed Forest areas
Trash servers
Takes ages to fix a stupid bug
Doesn't hear to their community
No Communication from the community team
No advertising
No sponsorships
Takes months to add a major update but screws up and makes it a stupid mode
Hires employees for other titles but not their product from PUBG IP which has crazy potential from their garbage board games
I swear if Krafton invests their 6 months with all resources in this game they can save it and make it stable at least
Waiting extreme graphic to unlock
What is the point to have Extreme graph if there is no much difference after HDR? Only Lite & HDR make sense
Ultra is a joke which takes 10 fps
away
And the current night mode looks better even on Lite than on HDR ...shame!
NSM isn't a new game
Big businessmen don't think like that
It's very natural for corporative culture to have a variety of ventures before focusing on one successful
They ignored every other game and laid off people from NSM and Callisto and put their entire focus on PUBG when it was on a decline. If they want they can do the same to NSM as well but they won't want to do it apparently. That's just an excuse and a pathetic defense
They fired the only person who was looking over the community which was cosmic sheep. If big businessman don't think like that then they would have enough brain cells to not fire an important executive
You can't compare NSM with PUBG which is their main brand
For Krafton NS is just one of many tryouts
They value time
And it's already lost to gain momentum
And why I can't compare it to PUBG when it was literally advertised to be like a sequel and a better PUBG? It was literally the next big thing for the Brand PUBG themselves + it was the only thing was additionally launched in the PUBG Universe with the PUBG IP
If new state is just a testing ground for PC and Mobile then they shouldn't have made the promises and advertised the game like this
This is just scam to players then
Not a sequel
Sequal is another PC game under development which will not be based on future
It's literally the sequel it's mentioned on their website
Those rumours rubbished a long time ago
New state is sequel of original pubg
Sequel is PUBG 2.0
New State just of the same Universe
in the concept of pubg universe
Anything else u got to say?
They said in 2021 itself in road to troi something video that new state is sequel of Original PUBG set in 2051
You referring to map
Common, u got what I meant
Troi is a map, PUBG isn't a map
Nope black budget is not a sequel to pubg
Black budget has nothing to do with PUBG storyline
It has a different story
Still based in PUBG universe
I said anything about Black Budget?
You are referring to Lore & not the game
u said sequel is another pc game man
theres only black budget which is pc game & under development
PUBG 2.0
I don't know what is the stage but in talks according to earlier source
Just I remember data miners who said that it's incorrect to call NS a sequel & there will be another consecutive PC title
Rich of you believing in data miners but not to the official Source
Player IGN isn't affiliated to PUBG so why should we believe to him
I know he is a trustable source but would you really believe a third party over an official source
Theres a project to upgrade PUBG with ue5
But there isnt pubg 2,0
And this article also says thay IGN said there will be another title with will be PUBG 2 which will release in 2022. I don't see it where is it?
That's just a hearsay name still popular among CC's
C-Dome spoke about that also while reviewing Rondo
NS still not perceived as a sequel in those circles
When we say sequel ppl think about more realistic version of PUBG
With the next set of maps because 10 already too much for one title
Like sequel not to the lore but technical aspects
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