Talking abt the video

[tulip pagoda]

Just to be safe I'm not gonna support them

[noble copper]

me too ESPECIALLY since he was going through a hurricane AND orion and bung were discrediting everything he said and twisting the story and trying to make him question if things that he KNEW happened ever did

[high hinge]

In the end Bung just needs to be held as accountable as Orion. My opinion is that both of them should be completely deplatformed but like I said, I'm just not very forgiving when it comes to stuff like this.

[meager jetty]

i somewhat agree, bung n orion reminds me a LOT about an old friend group i had

[buoyant tendon]

I mean lot's of people agree with you

[frozen lily]

Unrelated, my back hurts so bad rn

[noble copper]

orion also reminds me of terrible ex friends of mine

[tulip pagoda]

I've been accused of stuff like this and ||sa'd|| so I kinda have the full scope

[frozen lily]

I remember turning 18 and being accused of kiddy fiddling just because I was 18

[buoyant tendon]

Bro what the fuck?

[frozen lily]

I got banned from a server because someone spread that out with absolutely nothing backing anything she said

[rustic pagoda]

literally actively avoid kids because i’m deathly afraid someone would say that about me LMAO

[frozen lily]

EXACTLY

[raven wolf]

im not sure what to think of bung getting deplatformed, because they haven’t done TOO much?? but i agree that there’s red flags there

[tulip pagoda]

Same

[frozen lily]

I aint about to catch a case just being in the vicinity of a minor

[buoyant tendon]

It's a shame that people believe everything, never challenging or questioning

[rustic pagoda]

age gaps make me so i comfy in both directions so oh well

[frozen lily]

Or the complete opposite when its you who says something, it seems

[tulip phoenix]

I think what kwites friend said about bung is correct. She hasnt done anything actively wrong.

[noble copper]

that happened to my bf too he was messing around with his friends and said smth mean about them on minecraft and the friend's gf got really pissy and decided to accuse him of The Very Bad. he was banned without a second thought and 0 chance to even respond

[buoyant tendon]

My apologies, I'm unsure of what you mean?

[frozen lily]

I think he said that to kinda cool down his reddit because people wanted blood on tbere

[rustic pagoda]

there are so many reasons for me to not have friends or friend groups and this is one of them /hj LOL

[frozen lily]

Ah im sorry, i mean its usually when im like "hey this happened-" and it constantly gets questioned

[naive glen]

Sorry, this is off topic but is your user after the Warframe?

[rustic pagoda]

yeah!

[buoyant tendon]

Ooooooh yea I see what you mean

[bronze sun]

to be fair if someone you cared about tells you something bad happen to them, you'd mostly believe them first before anything else

[naive glen]

Hell yeah, I played that game so much. I'm a valk main 😅

[rustic pagoda]

oh that’s awesome! i play nezha TONS but khora and saryn are fun too

[naive glen]

Yesss

[frozen lily]

But if that person turned out to be a liar, I (and most) would at least apologize to the person who was blamed

Instead, Bung is doubling down

[bronze sun]

of course. if you guys didnt know bungs brother was here some time ago and said bung is starting to see the lies so

[raven wolf]

yeah, bung hasn’t really done much so i wouldnt say they deserve to be deplatformed just yet. i want to be able to hear them out a bit, however theyre definitely a red flag in this situation

[formal galleon]

Who’s Bung?

[frozen lily]

They definitely don't deserve what Orion deserves but an apology is needed from her

[raven wolf]

i agree

[bronze sun]

friend of orion i think

[frozen lily]

LordBung is a friend of Orions and the "mediator" mentioned by kwite in his video

[tough charm]

oof

[tulip phoenix]

I think this situation is just really fucking sad

[formal galleon]

Ohhh

[frozen lily]

I put quotes because mediators shouldn't be bias

[buoyant tendon]

Pretty shit mediator

[frozen lily]

Fr

[bronze sun]

yeah and it was orion who suggested bung too..

[small igloo]

People still be talking in here

[frozen lily]

Why not?

[raven wolf]

youre right

[small igloo]

Nothing wrong with it just surprised it’s still super active

[frozen lily]

I think its a bit more chill in here than main atm

[small igloo]

Gotta agree on that one

[frozen lily]

And we can talk about the vid and stuff without clogging it

[formal galleon]

FUNNY THING..I did know Orion was lying.

[tough charm]

honestly not on orions level obviously but they fucked up especially if they don't apologize and/or take orions side again

[frozen lily]

Well obviously

[naive glen]

Yeah reading thru their twitlonger, I knew things didn't add up

[tough charm]

oh they definitely didn't

[buoyant tendon]

No dots were connecting

[frozen lily]

Math wasnt mathin

[bronze sun]

i tried staying neutral despite his plotholes but when they blocked me i was like ???

[tulip phoenix]

I dont mean to make this about myself but i was planning to cut off a friend who we were mutually toxic too but i dont want to have a bad mediator and have this kind of thing happen

[formal galleon]

Like…way before a bunch of ppl did, I was trying to help Kwite, but if I said ANYTHING…I would’ve gone through worse then I already have

[tough charm]

that's the whole reason i basically took Kwite's side after starting as a neutral (and before saying anything online) especially after the blocking started

[buoyant tendon]

The plot thickens?

[bronze sun]

it was just smart to play it neutral

[raven wolf]

i was just neutral

if im completely honest

[tulip phoenix]

I dont blame myself for believing orion at first but ppl should wait before they make statements on things

[raven wolf]

this

[buoyant tendon]

Had me in the first half not gonna lie

[tulip pagoda]

Based

[frozen lily]

I was "neutral" but questioned everything

[formal galleon]

Sadly the document I have written is long gone, but it was full of all the “oopsies” in Orion’s story

[tulip pagoda]

Damn, insider information

[frozen lily]

Kwite handled that for you

[bronze sun]

same honestly. ill admit i leaned towards kwite tho because of bias 😭😭

[tulip phoenix]

My philosophy is to always believe victims but dont say anything until an effective response comes out

[formal galleon]

That, and more

[frozen lily]

I don't immediately believe anyone, but I'll give support where its needed

[tulip pagoda]

Yeah for now on I'm scrutinizing everything

[tulip phoenix]

That worked really well in this case because turned the fuck out that orion was finding an avenue to abuse kwite with

[tough charm]

questioning a story is not putting the possible victim down and that's what the people on orions side refused to understand

[formal galleon]

I was on both sides, but did think something was super fishy

[bronze sun]

someone really tweeted "why would someone lie about that?" like honey you have no idea

[frozen lily]

"If you question him you're against him and against all sa victims"

[frozen lily]

Why indeed, for attention

[formal galleon]

For clout or revenge

[tough charm]

the amount of people saying that tho

[tulip phoenix]

Again all you have to do before u make ur fucking #xisoverparty tweet please god just wait

[tulip pagoda]

That can be said about so many terrible things

[formal galleon]

In Orion’s case, this seems like it was all for revenge

[frozen lily]

Its sad tho that we have to question people with these horrible claims. Boy who cried wolf situation, too many people making false accusations. Now we have no clue whos lying and telling the truth

[tough charm]

"well of course, if it ended up being a lie im glad i didn't side with a r-ist. im ignoring the fact that I sided with the actual abuser"

[bronze sun]

"how dare you question a nameless twitter user who claims someone SAed them with little to no evidence?!" - average orion supporter

[tulip phoenix]

Can you fucking imagine the horrible shit thats gonna happen next time somebody has a potentially valid accusation against a public figure because of this

[frozen lily]

But honestly, it should be handled privately

[tulip phoenix]

If somebody does something like that to me im not fucking handling it privately

[vapid sedge]

Privately and with law involvement first

[frozen lily]

This isnt jury duty where we have to decide whos guilty and not, only a real court can do that

[tulip phoenix]

With law enforcement yes

[bronze sun]

this goes back to my argument about going to the authorities because literally twitter can do nothing for you

[tough charm]

not even "how dare u question them" but "how dare u question their evidence which is enough to prove everything" meanwhile the evidence: daily conversation and random pics of a happy orion next to an uncomfortable face we don't know is kwite in the first place

[vapid sedge]

Rbh I never got a right vibe from Orion and I finally know why. And the constant tweets on the situation just kinda confirmed at least to me it was fake and attention seeking since it was constantly brought up to the point where it annoyed the fuck outta me

[frozen lily]

Using twitter was the main goal here, Orion didn't want Kwite to be charged (because it didnt happen) he just wanted kwite off YouTube. I personality believe Orion has a vendetta against Kwites channel specifically, he sees it as the thing that "took" kwite away from him, made Kwite leave in the first place

[formal galleon]

Oh yeah…I did find smth on Reddit awhile back, lemme look for it

[tulip phoenix]

I wonder whats going to happen

To orion i mean

[tough charm]

also that "I don't have time for watching my supposed sa'ers video about it but he's lying"

[tulip phoenix]

Literally

[bronze sun]

yeah exactly... thats why i sort of side eye those who go to twitter immediately to report a crime, but still try to be open minded nonetheless

[frozen lily]

"The first 10 minutes are all lies" how about the other 80?

[vapid sedge]

Ik I honestly hope the worst for Orion really. Like I know that's shitty to say but as a victim of SA myself and stuff like that I don't put up with fucking liars on it. It's already so hard to come forward with stuff like that and people like that just make it so much harder

[formal galleon]

Darn I can’t send it, or even a picture

[raven wolf]

to be completely honest hearing those allegations, for the most part i was shocked. i was entirely neutral but because i was in disbelief i think, and i usually just form my opinions privately but this situation has been pretty much all i’ve cared about these past few days, i dont know why?

[tulip phoenix]

I wonder if orion will respond

[vapid sedge]

Probably not and if he does it's probably going to be some bs

Probably horribly edited conversations on top of the horribly edited medical document

[raven wolf]

LMAO

[formal galleon]

“I know everybody is on the "victims" side of the story but i just want to point out that the victim in the situation has accused 2 other streamers of the same thing in the last e years. What a coincidence that is that the same person gets (nope) by only twitch streamers?”

THERE, THATS THE PIECE I WANTED TO SEND

[frozen lily]

I know exactly what reddit post that is

[vapid sedge]

Bro even as a victim I didn't take sides I wanted to wait to hear both sides of the story 😭💀

[bronze sun]

i mean staying neutral should be the first thing to do. i hate when people immediately take sides like they know everything already its annoying

[frozen lily]

Side question, how do i get the mask role

[tulip phoenix]

Literally i edit shitty pics of my friends to make it look likr they said embarrassing shit and i would do it better

[frozen lily]

Is it like a level system

[vapid sedge]

No idea lol

[formal galleon]

Talking for ab an hour should do it. Ur at level 4 so you should get it soon

[frozen lily]

Noice

[vapid sedge]

LMFAOOO

[raven wolf]

actually, usually i dont form opinions at all because i dont want to involve myself with drama but i feel really strongly about this whole thing

[frozen lily]

I think most feel strong about this because (sadly) its a common thing

[formal galleon]

Funny thing…almost my entire fam is doctors, I’m going to be a psychologist. I can tell it’s fake bc one, it’s not professional, we put preferred names in brackets, and we don’t write our signatures with a mouse.

[rustic pagoda]

is it common? i’ve heard of cases here and there but i’m not sure

[tulip phoenix]

Watch him lurk this discord on an alt, call me up, and i make it look like kwite thirsts for pedro pascal

[frozen lily]

Not even just the accusations, but people who've been SA'd as well is very common

[vapid sedge]

I used to work in a therapy office and would have to see papers like that every day LMFAO

So when I saw what Orion posted I was like 'ain't no way'

[formal galleon]

NOR DO DOCTORS SIGNATURES LOOK LIKE THAT..

[frozen lily]

Yikes lol i can imagine how many fakes you see daily

[frozen lily]

That signature was pulled right off of Ibis paint istg

[raven wolf]

NO FR

[bronze sun]

the poor doctor seeing people saying their signature looks like a child's doodle:

[fickle siren]

It's from Google 💀

[frozen lily]

The entire document was from google in some shape or form

[vapid sedge]

There's a uncensored version of the doctors name somewhere and it's so fucking funny cause the signature don't even try to match

[fickle siren]

Embarrassing

[formal galleon]

I should write my own medical form /j don’t try this at home, kids.

[tulip phoenix]

What if i wanna wag school

[frozen lily]

Jamie i think the name was, someone on Twitter said she didn't even work at the place the dates Orion has on the doc, also she specializes in infants and toddlers

[vapid sedge]

DYING

[tulip phoenix]

Checks out

[frozen lily]

Especially for orion

[formal galleon]

So Orion is an infant or toddler now, according to the forms 💀

[frozen lily]

Basically

[tulip phoenix]

Istg if this was like 90% of other communities the response from the fans would have been waves of transphobia

[frozen lily]

Also is a time traveler

[raven wolf]

fr

[rustic pagoda]

there was some but it was handled, but yeah yikes

[formal galleon]

Now me, I would work with kids and teens. If he said I was his therapist I would honestly laugh since I’m based in Alberta..

[bronze sun]

another thing about the document is that since its a legal document, shouldn't the doctor refer to orion by their real name, not by their nickname? and since when were nicknames in legal documents

[vapid sedge]

I mean to act like that he might as well be a child God damn

[rustic pagoda]

i would probably say legal name * not real name

[bronze sun]

yeah that too

[tulip phoenix]

If this was toby fox ppl would be saying the most horrendous shit

[rustic pagoda]

why’s that

[tulip phoenix]

This community is chill

[clever forge]

My bf sent a picture of his cat to me and then stopped talking to me

[formal galleon]

It would be “legal name (preferred name)”

[tulip phoenix]

Undertale fans are deranged

[rustic pagoda]

orions preferred name as far as i know is orion so that would be the preferred name, whatever is on the document would’ve been the legal name or dead name of theirs

the censored part

[bronze sun]

do legal documents even use preferred names??

[raven wolf]

LMAO

[formal galleon]

For medical, Ye.

[rustic pagoda]

i’m sure it depends ?? i’m not certain

[formal galleon]

Unless you state otherwise

[frozen lily]

My docs never used my preferred name

[tulip phoenix]

West

[frozen lily]

Always deadnamed me

[bronze sun]

i dont think they do since its, yknow, a LEGAL document but then again idk

[vapid sedge]

They apparently posted something on their private tiktok

[clever forge]

It’s for legal reasons(I believe)

[vapid sedge]

He* (orion)

[tulip phoenix]

Can we listen to the actual psych student on this i beg 😭

[rustic pagoda]

orion uses he/they and neos

[formal galleon]

Huh…my friend’s legal documents always had their preferred name in brackets…must be different everywhere

[frozen lily]

My takeaway, my therapists sucked

[formal galleon]

A lot of them do

[tulip phoenix]

"YALL I DID THAT SHIT 🤷🤷🤷🤷"

[fickle siren]

Some doctors are nice like that. Most aren't

[frozen lily]

Still haven't found a decent one

AYE MASK ICON

[rustic pagoda]

it’s a struggle sometimes

[raven wolf]

YAYY

[frozen lily]

We groovin

I just joined like 6 hours ago

[raven wolf]

wait, how long have i been here for?

[unkempt mango]

ok one thing i do not like rn is how people are using Orion's gender identity as a excuse for their transphobia

[rustic pagoda]

gross

[frozen lily]

Absolutely not

[meager jetty]

huh did something new happen

[unkempt mango]

i'm seeing a lot of people shit on Orion for him being trans and that's my issue

[raven wolf]

3 hours

[unkempt mango]

yes, Orion is an an awful person, but it's not because he's trans, it's because he's an awful person
common sense

[frozen lily]

Orion is the shittiest person on twitter rn but still deserves human decency

[raven wolf]

frfr

[unkempt mango]

i get pissed a lot whenever someone uses the an awful person's orientation, race, and/or gender identity as an excuse for bigotry.
it's like taking a step forward then 5 steps back

[rustic pagoda]

yeah

[unkempt mango]

i saw someone with a loli pfp say that trans people are predators 😨

[frozen lily]

Bruh

[tulip phoenix]

I find it extremely funny how they accused kwite of transphobia and called him the c word

[raven wolf]

LMAO what???

[rustic pagoda]

wait how do you know it’s loli

[tulip phoenix]

Ok read the first clause of that sentence and tell me why ur surprised

[rustic pagoda]

is there a distinctive thing aside from a younger character or something?

[unkempt mango]

i'm not surprised i'm just wondering if they know smth about called digital footprint

[frozen lily]

LMAO

I CAN'T SAY 🦶

[raven wolf]

WHAY

[frozen lily]

I WAS GUNNA SAY

"THEY LIKE 🦶SO THEY DON'T CARE" TO THE DIGITAL FOOTPRINT MESSAGE

[raven wolf]

LMAOOO

[frozen lily]

Why is it blocked

[raven wolf]

people are strange

[frozen lily]

Im sobbing

How many people had to ask before it was blocked

[fickle siren]

Fe et

[frozen lily]

You did it, you crazy son of a bitch you did it

[fickle siren]

I've broken the system

[tulip phoenix]

They blocked the word for believers in YAWH

[frozen lily]

I don't even want to ask

[raven wolf]

😭😭

[tulip phoenix]

🕎

✡️

They blocked that

[raven wolf]

nighty night

[frozen lily]

GOODNIGHT

[raven wolf]

im not going to bed but im going to my main acc to see if anyone texted me

[tulip phoenix]

Goognight

[fickle siren]

Chrisstan

[frozen lily]

Oops sorry

[raven wolf]

You scared me so bad for a sec

[fickle siren]

😈

[raven wolf]

I was abt to pull a “how did you get my name”

[unkempt mango]

in light of Oreo, i will change my name to Orion in order to reclaim a very beautiful name bc that bastard does not deserve it

but i already have multiple names so

[rustic pagoda]

there’s an orion already here actually

also@i cannot stop reading it as oree on

[frozen lily]

Oreo..oreeeeo

Anyway, am eepy, nice meeting you guyss

[raven wolf]

update yes i got texted

happy

[raven wolf]

okay 🙏, it was nice meeting you fr youre cool

[frozen lily]

😁

[raven wolf]

im gonna log off for tonight ggn

[high hinge]

any updates?

[tough charm]

i don't think so but not sure

[river spire]

No, Orion hasn't responded fully yet

I'm really curious as to what he'll say next, it'd be great to see him acknowledge the lie and take accountability but I'm not holding my breath

[wraith trail]

nope, Bung and Orion's partner wanted answers from him after watching Kwite's video, but they literally got none. Orion is currently trying to avoid to answer questions

[flint hull]

ngl mang, I can't imagine a good response from him

ah well, let him take his time

if he's getting receipts or something, like what Kwite did

but if he's just avoiding contacting people for the sake of, well, hiding/avoiding

eh, disappointing

[wraith trail]

Bung is about to lean on the Neutral or Kwite's side bc I slid into their dms and talked them down

also gave them evidences and such to the point they are very disappointed and very upset towards Orion

shout out to my friend who slid into my dms and informed me about the situation, despite me being stressed out too. I fought on and helped Bung to see things clearly and showed that Orion is in the wrong

[tulip phoenix]

Wait rlly??

[flint hull]

woah

[wraith trail]

yuh

I'm Bung's (internet) sibling and close mutuals

[tulip phoenix]

Thats good that u talked to them tho

[wraith trail]

I had to, because I didn't want to see anyone, especially if they are my close friends, get involved in the drama and get shit on

[flint hull]

great job!

[tough charm]

i guess i can't send screenshots or links here but under the fake documents Orion send a person shows screenshots of their conversations before sending the ptsd thing-

[wraith trail]

I also showed Bung the forged medical records

Bung was completely speechless that I pointed out that the doctor who "signed" the paper is a Paediatrician

[flint hull]

Oh no

[wraith trail]

i sent them that too!!!

[tough charm]

and orion saying Kwite did it with fingers and hes lying (aka changing his story once again)

[wraith trail]

Bung did not like that and wanted answers from Orion ::(

[flint hull]

paediatrician???

[wraith trail]

a doctor who specialises on treating toddlers and babies

[formal galleon]

Yeah, those medical documents are clearly fake (my fam is filled with doctors and I’m in school for psychology)

[flint hull]

o h n o

it gets worse oml

[wraith trail]

I already knew it was fake 😭

the repeated bullets caught me cackling

[tough charm]

and the plot thickens lol

[formal galleon]

FR…and we doctors write more professionally than that.

[flint hull]

broo a real G for showing proof

[timber flint]

dude the last bit of the video where he spoke about not knowing if he wanted to be a part of this anymore was so sad

[flint hull]

he's in a state of under many stress so it's understandable :<

[formal galleon]

Well, Kwite’s career is ruined, he can’t go back to how he was before since he had to reveal so much about himself.

I would be like that too…I get it.

[timber flint]

i wish we could just go back to before this shit. back when everything was all lighthearted and goofy

[formal galleon]

oh my bad, i thought this was main

[flint hull]

i love your pfp

[formal galleon]

Lmao ur good, hun

[formal galleon]

jesse. we have to game

[flint hull]

[wraith trail]

Bung first believe the the medical record was real

until I showed them what an actual medical record looks like, my friends who are medically diagnosed confirming it was fake, the link to the website where Orion copied and pasted, the doctors, and then the address

Bung was upset when they found out the debunked records

Bung was lied and manipulated by Orion (bonus, Bung also claimed that Orion had not told them most of the info, and they were pissed about that)

[flint hull]

anyone would be pissed, mang

[timber flint]

poor bung

[formal galleon]

What’s sad is that now people will believe ppl with BPD act like this, as someone with BPD…this sucks.

[timber flint]

they're feeding into a negative stereotype with their goofiness

[formal galleon]

Because I would NEVER lie about shit like this, it’s not okay

If they use their BPD as a shield for their behaviour I swear to fuckin god

[timber flint]

"im gonna need to show my medical records to get them back on my side!!!!"

[timber flint]

bro didnt even have the audacity to show real ones

[wraith trail]

I said this before but I'll say it again:

Bung is pressured, stressed, and very much likely upset bc Orion put them in a place where people see them as a villain

"Idk what's real,,, I know you're trying to protect me but I have my whole world destroyed,,, I'll post about processing the Kwite video when I'm ready and my mind is clear"

that was the exact words from Bung when I talked to them in dms

I was.. very upset when they said that bc it broke my heart to see them like this again..

[formal galleon]

My anger towards them is already high, this would make it worse

[flint hull]

using your mental illness as an excuse is just being lazy + not taking responsibility of your actions 🙄

[formal galleon]

I feel really bad for them..they were lied to by someone who they thought was a genuine friend.

[formal galleon]

THIS ⬆️

Fuck…I hope Kwite is doing okay..if I could, I would give him some tips since I was in this exact situation, funnily enough…but yeah..I hope his break goes well

[timber flint]

supportive words

[high hinge]

i don't mean to kick them while they're down, but please remind them of the responsibiity they bear for spreading misinformation

they have a massive audience, they need to fix this sooner rather than later

[formal galleon]

Yeah, that too. But I meant tips on how to take a step back and have a good break

[wraith trail]

yeah.. I had to multitask at school to talk with them and comfort them

turned out pretty well

"Thank you,,, I really appreciate it Larry. Thanks for helping me see things straight. Ur a good lil bro, I set the timer now for the mods."

that's the last message they sent to me in dms just an hour or 2 ago

I've been giving them advices and comforting them for the past 3 days, this was worth it uGrahh

[tough charm]

if anything both parties consented romantic or sexual happened it might be blamed on orions mental problems that they have problems with remembering or feeling it happened differently but orion straight up made everything up and that's not excusable with mental illness

[timber flint]

kwite deserves so much better man. this is so fucked. people who get joy out of seeing someone's life get destroyed need proper help. like professional help

[wraith trail]

oh yeah, they're gonna make a statement about this later or tomorrow, dw about that

[high hinge]

Good

[wraith trail]

they also apologised to me about that

[flint hull]

i hope all goes well

[wraith trail]

If ever Orion starts to make more trouble (possibly towards Bung), I'll be there to defend them

both Bung and Kwite didn't deserve this tho

Orion really

really needs to get off the Internet forever bc this is not looking good for them

[formal galleon]

Fr tho

[flint hull]

seeing how Orion acted in the screenshots, i doubt he can do that

[wraith trail]

in fact, I don't like Orion. Only bc what he has been doing to Bung

[tough charm]

yeah, imagine trying to help someone for something so serious and they've been lying about everything to use you to hurt someone out of pettiness

[formal galleon]

what makes me so mad is just, orion got what he wanted. he wanted to ruin kwite's career, and he did. it'll never be the same for kwite. ):

[flint hull]

hope he's happy 🙄

doing all this🙄

[formal galleon]

🙄 bet he's rubbing his hands together like a fly rn

[wraith trail]

tbh, I never understood the word "mediator" putting on to Bung

but now seeing what Orion had done.. They were using Bung to gather more audience bc of the large following (putting their image, mental health, and career in danger)

Also leaving Bung with no answers

[flint hull]

lmAO

[formal galleon]

This was all done for revenge, that…we know

it's so disgusting :/

[wraith trail]

Orion, why tf u lyyyinnnn

why do u always lyyyiinnn

mmmmmy god

[formal galleon]

Does Bung have a YouTube channel?

[agile needle]

stOP fuCKINN LYIINN

[wraith trail]

yeah, they do

but.. dont plan on raiding and bombard them in the comments ::(

[formal galleon]

No no, I wanna subscribe to it

[wraith trail]

AW,,

[formal galleon]

Im a YouTuber myself, I don’t need my small career to be ruined

Bc of a raid

[wraith trail]

youtuber to youtuber 🤝

i should work on my video omg-

[formal galleon]

FR, we stick together, love! /p

[wraith trail]

yes yes <3

[formal galleon]

holy fuck that’s a lot of subs, man..

Sobbibg in the fuckin corner, im jealous

[wraith trail]

GRAHH hard work can pay off. Just gotta push through 💪

[formal galleon]

WAIT IVE SEEN ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS BEFORE

WHY TF DID I NOT SUB THEN

[wraith trail]

okay, this is the time I disappea- /j

[formal galleon]

No, we’re getting platonically married and your gonna love it /j

[clever forge]

[wraith trail]

THE EMOJI ?!?

[clever forge]

Homies deserve alil kiss every once n awhile

[clever forge]

[formal galleon]

Im talking to one of the animators I look up to wth this is scary

[wraith trail]

I DONT BITE, I PROMISE

unless it's Orion, i will bite

[clever forge]

Beat them up

[formal galleon]

IM NOT BEATING MR BATTER UP

[clever forge]

[formal galleon]

PLSPLSPLS I LOVE THEM

[clever forge]

[formal galleon]

Me too

[clever forge]

kat

[wraith trail]

Sorry if i havent been uploaded in a while. But there's gonna be 2 new videos planned soon

one of them is a collab with an old friend ::]

[formal galleon]

I have to start uploading again, I took my videos down bc of an allegation a long time ago

[wraith trail]

GRAH start uploading woooooooooOOoo🌀🌀🌀

[formal galleon]

WAAAAAA

[clever forge]

[formal galleon]

Now I really want to start uploading

[broken thorn]

sorry quick question since i keep seeing the name pop up but whos bung?

[timber flint]

bung was the 'mediator' between the two

[broken thorn]

mediator?? Sorry could you elaborate on that?

[formal galleon]

I got this from Google “a mediator is a person who attempts to make people involved in a conflict come to an agreement”

[broken thorn]

oh

[formal galleon]

Ye

[broken thorn]

Yikes then

[formal galleon]

Bung was also a close friend with Orion I believe

[elder ruin]

I just had a thought

What if onion had an alt here

[buoyant rampart]

I mean, it's not impossible.

[bitter notch]

So what if they had an alt? All that’s here is “people in Kwite’s server are mean to me”

[elder ruin]

Yeah and that’s what so funny to me

I’m not scared about the alt I’m just cackling at how salty they would be

[buoyant rampart]

Exactly, it's not like there is much to see here.

The only thing I don't understand is why do it in the first place anyway? Attention? Was Orion unaware that that could backfire spectaculary?

[formal galleon]

That, and revenge

Revenge for Kwite not wanting to continue the relationship.

[wraith trail]

I'd be dead in an instant tbh

or Bung would contact me that why am I at Kwite's server

nothing has happened to me

[formal galleon]

Oh! You’re back

[buoyant rampart]

Some revenge that is. Send a bunch of madman on Kwite, only to have the same horde now change its mind and come back at Orion.

[formal galleon]

Some people are still on Orion’s side

mostly because Twitter is filled with idiots

[bitter notch]

Batter is it true Bung helped Ivory defend against Pyrocynical or

That was awful english I’m sorry

[wraith trail]

I was not informed about. In fact, idk about that situation at all or when it started
I only had met Bung since 2018, then went inactive in a while, and then came back to Bung a year ago or this year

[formal galleon]

Hun…question…are you not allowed to be in this server?

[bitter notch]

Hrmmm no worries
I’ve just been hearing a load of that being perpetuated online and it’s made me suspicious abt Bung but I’m glad you’re working w/ them

[buoyant rampart]

Also, your English was perfect

[wraith trail]

no, i was not told to never joined here

Bung was very supportive to me when I told them about which side I should be

They are also somewhat leaning towards to Kwite's side bc I convinced them for like... 2-3 days straight

[wraith trail]

it's understandable to be sus with Bung, I get that

[formal galleon]

Damn… (btw can I friend you just in case)

[wraith trail]

yeah sure

[atomic glacier]

Wow maybe redeemable.

(any proof of it tho?)

[formal galleon]

Giggles and kicks legs bc person I look up to is friends with me

[wraith trail]

i cant semd screenshots here but i can send them in dms

only problem is that I have trust issues and worry about this being spread out in the internet. Im only just a moral and emotional support for Bung and never want to be involved with the drama

[formal galleon]

That’s a smart thing

You never know what someone is gonna do, man. Always gotta be careful

[atomic glacier]

True. Issue is. Bung already is. And maybe showing them possibly believing kwite would get them less backlash?

Either or. It should be bung to come out with the statement not screenshots of a "maybe"

[formal galleon]

GIGGLES AND KICKS LEGS AGAIN

[atomic glacier]

If you dont mind ive sent you a friend request and feel free to send the dms (if you feel comfortable)

[wraith trail]

oh, you can like uuh search some of my messages here I sent about Bung's updates

want me to reply under them so you could read em?

[formal galleon]

Do y’a mind if I get them?

[atomic glacier]

Ill take a look gimme a minute.

[wraith trail]

1

2

3

aand 4

[formal galleon]

Ahh

[atomic glacier]

Ah thank you. Yeah I suspected as much on this. Orions is clearly a manipulator. Ive been more worried for bung than upset theyve been siding with orion.

[bitter notch]

I hope Bung comes out and apologizes for the misinformation they perpetuated but I’m glad they’re having a change of heart

[atomic glacier]

I feel sorry for bung rn too. I just hope they come out wi with a statement soon because no one is being understanding that orion is a manipulator and likely kwite wasnt the only victim

[wraith trail]

same here. Bung and I consider each other as siblings. I can't stand seeing them being upset bc Orion put their life in danger

[wraith trail]

they will

later or tomorrow. Just give them time. They're pressured, stressed, and upset about this

[formal galleon]

Agreed, they need to have a clear head before doing anything

[wraith trail]

bonus info

[bitter notch]

I’m fine w/ giving them time but I’m just saying it’s a point that’s imperative to touch on

[atomic glacier]

Thats awesome im so glad. Do you happen to know what platform it wilk be on?

[wraith trail]

bonus info #2

[wraith trail]

bonus info #3

[atomic glacier]

Thank you so much for this information. After Grawlixs post on Reddit I was really holding out hope for Bung and I'm glad that hope was misguided.

[wraith trail]

np, i will try my best to keep you guys updated

[atomic glacier]

Thanks. You're doing good work to help clear the air a little :)

[wraith trail]

thanks, man. I'm glad I could help

[formal galleon]

I think you need this, hold on

[unkempt mango]

glad Bung is leaning towards a better direction now

[silk drum]

Orion should go to jail

[formal galleon]

Fr

[silk drum]

The Asian slurs he said is indeed offensive

As a Filipino myself, I find it very offensive

[night dragon]

Btw if any of yall misgender any one involved i am going to beat you

Yes that unfortunately includes the abuser in this, the situation is not an excuse to be transphobic

[valid viper]

XD yeah I dont get why people are condoning that, orion is awful but cmonnn

[night dragon]

Youre just signalling to fellow trans people that if they do one thing wrong you are going turn on them and misgender them

[valid viper]

Yeah thats gross to me

[silk drum]

Yep, same thought

Hope kwite pursues a case against him

[unkempt mango]

you're being a fake ally by doing so. you're cherry picking which trans person you want to respect and such.

[night dragon]

Like pronouns arent a little treat you give to someone for being good

[unkempt mango]

even if we collectively hate Orion, we must understand that he's not awful bc he's trans, he's awful bc he's a bad person

it reminds me of how people started misgendering Jalyn after she was exposed

[night dragon]

Btw can anyone explain to who tf NotSlickB0i is and what hes done?

[silk drum]

I 10000% agree that we should hate Orion for his actions, not because he's trans

[valid viper]

Commentary youtuber who faked apologies on both sides that were awful

[unkempt mango]

he made a video spreading misinformation in which Kwite made an awful apology

[night dragon]

Yikes

[valid viper]

Yeah both were basically admissions of guilt and hatred

[umbral marsh]

ong

[velvet prairie]

Yeah even if they’re a bad person we should respect who they are as a person still and focus on there mentality and there actions

[unkempt mango]

then proceeded to argue behind the "it's satirical" argument bc his channel is known for trolling

[night dragon]

People really wanted kwite to make an apology video similar to logan paul's huh

[valid viper]

Lol that wouldve been-out of character-Kwite is way too cool

[umbral marsh]

hes made a continuous lapse in his judgement

[valid viper]

XD

[cunning sandal]

Just cuts to a bed with him still wearing the usual attire
“I have made quite an oopsie doopsie and I wanna say sorry”

[umbral marsh]

LMAO

[night dragon]

I had a weird dream before the vid came out where kwite did a shitty cover of the "im addicted to guards" song and that was his vid

[valid viper]

[umbral marsh]

i would accept that apology

[valid viper]

..That is so funny dude

[formal galleon]

SOBBING

[cunning sandal]

BRUH THAT IS FOUL AND I LOVE IT 😭

[formal galleon]

He needs to do that now istg

[valid viper]

Whyyyy

[cunning sandal]

First video he makes after comeback (..assuming he chooses to come back) is him collaborating with Lhugeny to make a weird hybrid of Kwite and Lhugeny animation

[night dragon]

Also why tf pegasus (that really young commentary youtuber) make a video on this, i havent watched him in a long time and this situation feels a little different from usual content he made when i was still watching him

Like it feels like a topic thats too adult for the little man

[valid viper]

Pegasus is a internet news kinda guy and this is internet news

[subtle fiber]

this. a lot of people who made a video on this situation just... should not have done that. there is no need for them to get involved

[silk drum]

Pegasus took a huge w when he stayed neutral

[cunning sandal]

wittle baby man wants to cover story out his league
go back to your bottle and peppa pig baby man
||im joking don’t sue||

[night dragon]

Like penguinz0/moist jesus?

[formal galleon]

MOIST JESUS???

[valid viper]

I think if they are emphasizing what kwite has said it’s okay-Sorry if thats a bad opinion
And if they arent taking advantage of his face

[silk drum]

And twitter canceled him for it 😂

[cunning sandal]

moist jesus, ah yes

[valid viper]

Lmao

[night dragon]

Im raised in a religious area i can make that joke

[cunning sandal]

Twitter is fr the Wild West of the internet, but at least the Wild West was chaotically fun and entertaining, Twitter is just depressing and infuriating to watch

[night dragon]

Nah 8chan and adjacent communities are worse

[cunning sandal]

Don’t know why I’m bringing it up but I’ve had that thought on my mind for a while

[subtle fiber]

twitter is one of the most vile places on the internet ngl

[valid viper]

I only go on twitter on my browser to see awful tweets

[cunning sandal]

Didn’t someone on Twitter get called racist for their animal crossing character having a specific hairstyle and being white?

[night dragon]

I only go to twitter for mildly weird shit if you get my drift

[silk drum]

Twitter is the annex of hell

[night dragon]

Theres worse communities

coughkiwifarmscough

[cunning sandal]

im scared to find out what kiwi farm is

[buoyant tendon]

What IS Kiwi farm?

[subtle fiber]

in short, its a community to harass mentally ill people

[night dragon]

They also leak personal info

[cunning sandal]

…. slowly increasing autism anger

[valid viper]

I consider Twitter a gossip site

[night dragon]

Imagine twitter but worse is how someone explained it to me

[silk drum]

I barely go on Twitter anymore lol

[valid viper]

[silk drum]

I go to twitter for rants, and to check on some of my mutuals, nothing else

[night dragon]

Gossip is: jenny kissed ben yesterday
Not
"oh yeah i falsely accused a man"

[silk drum]

Entering twitter is entering hell, you can't change my mind

[night dragon]

Also my coldsores are acting up

[valid viper]

Rumor site then? Accusation site? Its all of those

[subtle fiber]

hellsite fits the best imo

[valid viper]

[cunning sandal]

if someones whole community’s goal is to harass innocent people for having stuff outta their control, they need to go to the Nevada desert and wind up missing

[night dragon]

The doomscroll site
Reddit is only mildly better though

[jaunty marsh]

I hate that so much, whoever made that shit needs to get caught by the feds 😭

[cunning sandal]

Whoever made it can have a visit from the doom slayer courtesy of every sane person on the planet

[subtle fiber]

while some people discussed there turned out to be incredibly shitty, a lot of relatively decent people got their information leaked for just being cringe. thats messed up

[unkempt mango]

kiwi farms gets worse. it's a website known for dxing lots of trans people

[cunning sandal]

Actually infuriating, so what if they are cringe, that makes them free

[night dragon]

Worse crime on the internet is cringe
Doesnt matter if your a minor or not

[unkempt mango]

they leaked a trans creator's address once which caused the creator to get bombarded and hat crmed

[night dragon]

coughjellybeancough

[subtle fiber]

its filled to the brim with bigotry tbh

and the worst part is that a lot of them think they're doing a good thing by literally stalking those people and archiving everything they do online

[cunning sandal]

BROOO WTH IS WRONG WITH SOCIETY

[thin laurel]

i thought kiwi farms was deleted?? am i just late or something

[unkempt mango]

not sure, but we should still be careful

[night dragon]

Also i feel like chrischan wouldve been better of if nobody took notice of them

[cunning sandal]

WHAT BASEMENT DWELLERS MINDSET IS “IF I RUIN SOMEONES LIFE FOR WANTING TO BE THEIR TRUE SELF, SURELY IM IN THE RIGHT”

[night dragon]

Orion

[cunning sandal]

..you got me there

[unkempt mango]

also based miles edgeworth pfp

[subtle fiber]

it was taken down, but the damage has been done so it doesnt really change anything at this point

[night dragon]

Is my pfp based? I made it myself/j

[unkempt mango]

it slays

[atomic glacier]

I love the colours sm lol

[night dragon]

Thanks

[cunning sandal]

jojo based name
miles edgeworth pfp
attitude of neither

[thin laurel]

oh yteah i think moist critical made a vid about this situation

[atomic glacier]

Yeah he did. Its a pretty good video and i agree that kwites response is litterally the best response ive seen on yt

[cunning sandal]

The cropping is mildly infuriating but I’m fine with the rest 😭

[cunning sandal]

There’s literally no competition other than maybe Pyro

[thin laurel]

cant wait for pyro to say something abt it too

[cunning sandal]

He hasn’t already?

[thin laurel]

i sont think so wait i can check

[unkempt mango]

Charlie is a great creator; just not my cup of tea to watch commentary channels tho

[night dragon]

Trust me i tried fixing it, it has proved impossible so far

[thin laurel]

nope pyro hasnt made a vid about it yet

[cunning sandal]

Offtopic I just checked my rank card and I’m level 4 yet I have the level 5 mask wth-

[night dragon]

He isnt obligated too/nm

[night dragon]

Wait how do you check

[thin laurel]

unless he made it on his main c hannel i just kinda wanna see his perspective

[cunning sandal]

“Apps” tab on your profile

[unkempt mango]

i'm more of the "7 hour video essay about smth niche that just crashes down to some current political event"

[cunning sandal]

Utopia

[unkempt mango]

i definitely did not watch the 13 hour documentary about Victorious

/sarc ofc i watched it it was amazing

[cunning sandal]

The
W H A T

[thin laurel]

i got into pyro after poeple on tiktok started talking about him anbd all and first i was just for the jokes but i watch him everyday now

[unkempt mango]

search up "Quinton Reviews Victorious saga" it's good

[night dragon]

I fear you

[cunning sandal]

Not a big fan of Pyro’s live content but the main channel videos are absolute class

[ebon mountain]

hello thread

[cunning sandal]

The Iron Lung video is still one of my favourite videos on the internet

[thin laurel]

i love pyrolive since its just him having fun and he posts a lot more often there

[cunning sandal]

yeah and I’m fine with that but it’s the comments that get me-
Every single one of them is the same joke over and over again for every video and it’s like the second coming of Morbius

[thin laurel]

i wish pyro covered omor iguhhhghghg i want omori i want omori

[unkempt mango]

mmmm-m-mm-mor

[night dragon]

i

[unkempt mango]

mORBIUS IT'S MORBIN TIME

[cunning sandal]

It’s like his community shares one braincell in the Live channel

[thin laurel]

i only know a c opuple of youtubers its kwite pyro ummm fortune (creepy stuf fyoutube) and noah samsen

[unkempt mango]

noah samsen 😍

[thin laurel]

wewhat if kwite plays banban

also i wonded when kwite come abck

[night dragon]

Prolly a month or two

[thin laurel]

i feel so bad for him tho i kinda just need to forget about him and randomly discover his channel again and binge the videos

[night dragon]

I need to sleep soon btw

[formal galleon]

i hope the break he takes is good and mentally rejuvenating for him— he didn’t deserve what happened.

[jaunty marsh]

LMFAO ORIONS PARTNER MADE A TIKTOK 😭

[formal galleon]

oh my god yeah i saw that

[plucky sage]

I saw it 😟

[jaunty marsh]

bros still tryna say kwites lying but now he’s using other people to do it 🤡

[tulip phoenix]

Link it

[jaunty marsh]

I only saw it on Twitter, idk their tiktok but it should be the first thing on Twitter if you put Orion

[plucky sage]

Is there somewhere I can send link

[buoyant rampart]

Part of me is worried that Kwite might never return, but at least it's nice to know he managed to clear his name.

[plucky sage]

Agreed

[tulip phoenix]

Dm it to me

[high hinge]

Alright Kwite community, we’re going to war on Twitter. Prepare to deploy.

[turbid spindle]

WHATTT?!?

[bitter notch]

It’s a site dedicated to “lolcows” like Chris Chan but it boils down to making rude forums about trans and/or mentally ill people (or communities as a whole)

[brazen fractal]

Wait someone send me a link or tell me where to find the tik tok

[normal pagoda]

I'm already deployed, wym?/jk

I think I deployed too early 😓

[high hinge]

🫡

[jaunty marsh]

HELP ME HIS BANNER IS NAGITO 😭

[high hinge]

We are all kwites strongest soldiers

[thin laurel]

orion is trying so hard to get everyone to believe them,,

[jaunty marsh]

I saw it on Twitter bro is still tryna say Orion is telling the truth 😭

[normal pagoda]

Tried so hard, and got so far. In the end, it didn't even matter.

[turbid spindle]

people are SICK

😭

[normal pagoda]

I'm sick, that's offensive to me/jk

I prefer calling them Weird but in a bad way

[thin laurel]

guys he’s lying guys why aren’t u believing me guys guys please believe me

[jaunty marsh]

Yea it’s honestly disgusting, plus I find it funny how Orion only watched 10 minutes of the video and then they magically show up with documents of his “ptsd” diagnosis, when the first 10 minutes of the video, he was giving an introductory as a start?

[thin laurel]

oh yeah the faked document is a actual crime

[normal pagoda]

If he watched the whole video, he'd know he got overcooked.

[bitter notch]

If you find a link to the tiktok post can you dm me?

[thin laurel]

Also I’m pretty sure the signature is also faked which is another crime in itself

[normal pagoda]

Like, how can you watch the first 10mins and then assume you're still able to have a massive following?

[formal galleon]

the whole document is reeking of forgery/fake — all of it can be counted as a crime. the whole document

[normal pagoda]

That video was almost 2hrs long, that's where he should've gotten the hint of "oh, I lost"

[thin laurel]

wait why were there 2 signatures too??????????

[normal pagoda]

there were 2??

yk what, nvm, I didn't even read the entire document, I'm gonna let y'all talk on that-

[jaunty marsh]

Oh Ik that. As someone who actually has a mental diagnosis, they wouldn’t have documentation like that, it’d just be a simple note that’s kept on record

[formal galleon]

some documents do that. i also know as someone whose gotten legit medical documents they will not use your nickname, nor will they unfortunately use your preferred pronouns. if its a legal document they have to use your legal information

[thin laurel]

also i don tknow how psychology and allat works but i saw someone say that the person who they got the thing from works specially in toddlers and babies psychology

[buoyant rampart]

Didn't two things on the listed diagnosis also repeat?

[formal galleon]

I thought preferred name was in brackets after ur legal first name

[jaunty marsh]

Now that you mention it I’m p sure it does, it was copied off google as well

[thin laurel]

if that docuemnt is rea then i love school

[normal pagoda]

If that document is real then I don't have a hearing loss.

[formal galleon]

The document is clearly fake.

[jaunty marsh]

STOP I KEEP GETTING FLAGGED

[formal galleon]

so do i

[jaunty marsh]

Victim

[formal galleon]

Us psychologists/doctors write way more professional than what was written in that document.

[thin laurel]

yes it was a website that listed signs of ptsd

[jaunty marsh]

BRUH I KEEP GETTING FLAGGED 😭

[normal pagoda]

That document is faker than...yk, I give up on this message, I cannot think of anything rn, someone help.

[formal galleon]

L

[formal galleon]

It’s faker then my online persona

[normal pagoda]

Ty

[formal galleon]

Np

The way I act online is VERY FAR from how I am irl haha, so im basically a fake in a sense

[buoyant rampart]

Also wasn't the "signature" copy-pasted in two places

[normal pagoda]

Oh wow.

irl me is a fake, I say all my opinions online

[formal galleon]

Yup.

[jaunty marsh]

I’m gonna scream WHY DO I KEEP GETTING FLAGGED 😭

[formal galleon]

The signature wouldn’t be a carbon copy of each other

[formal galleon]

It would be slightly different

[jaunty marsh]

Yea plus if it were real documents, if Orion had even gone to see a therapist, I’m p sure the papers would be physical & would have a proper signature on it and not one that was drawn on Picsart

[formal galleon]

Mhm!

We also don’t use a mouse for our signatures! They are almost always handwritten

[thin laurel]

i wonder if anything legal will happen to orion i hope it does

[jaunty marsh]

Fr

[normal pagoda]

How long you think it took for Orion to even think about what to put on that document?

I'm betting my discord server on about a week, but that's just me

[buoyant rampart]

I can confirm that signatures are handwritten, but my country is also less developed than the US, so it's probably not a good reference.

[formal galleon]

It doesn’t take long to forge a paper don’t do this at home, kids

[jaunty marsh]

I feel like he had it on the back burner, stumbled a lil then fucked up when releasing it

[normal pagoda]

Hold up, how do you know?

[formal galleon]

I have done one just to see how long it would take

All you need to do is google symptoms and all that

[jaunty marsh]

I’d just like to say, Charlie & Nux are so pissed about this. I saw Nux’s video & im watching Charlie’s.

[hollow niche]

I still need to watch them

[thin laurel]

yeah i just recently saw their videos, pretty fucked up nux also got thousands of messages about kwite without hearing him out

[jaunty marsh]

Yea, haven’t done it, but it’s like when I googled stomach pains and it said I was pregnant lmfao

[thorny arrow]

Most of the time a signature for a doctor will be scanned in off of their actual signature

[formal galleon]

You must be if doctor google says so /j

[thorny arrow]

And then they will from there be able to use it on a page. But a doctor wouldn't copy paste symptoms from mayo clinic.com

[jaunty marsh]

Yea, the fact that it went as mfs harassing other creators, is fucking disgusting

[formal galleon]

actually i don’t even use webmd anymore bc im just that smart i might as well be a doctor /j

[formal galleon]

Mhm! That’s what I meant by handwritten, we don’t use a mouse

[jaunty marsh]

Yea that signature looks like something 5 year old me would’ve done

[thorny arrow]

Or to that extent use Arial default font...

[jaunty marsh]

Yea I’ve never seen a document use Arial font 😭

[thorny arrow]

It's very obviously a forgery

[thin laurel]

i saw someone draw kwite umm dead and the intro was just "are u seriosuly gonna draw kwite getting killed wihtout hearing his side??" like something like that (not even exadarating or whatver how do u spell exadarting

[thorny arrow]

Most med documents I've seen use a print like times new Roman

[formal galleon]

not only that, but if it was scanned and copied, it would have the pen opacity/pen style matching to at least a doctors signature— doctors scribble sure, but if its a legal document it needs to be properly read/thorough

[normal pagoda]

I saw Nux's video too, as the video progressed I started to feel the physical aura of his anger...or rage, whatever word you prefer

sorry for later reply, I'm in class rn 💀

[thorny arrow]

Document of diagnosis would've been signed and scanned or have the signature of the Dr placed through dotloop or sometjing

[buoyant rampart]

I don't like or follow Nux, but yeah, it's clear he is pissed in that video

[formal galleon]

yep

[buoyant rampart]

So Nux is a good friend

[jaunty marsh]

Same here. I’m an empath so I usually feel different kinda emotions & shit. But w nux, his whole tone might’ve been chill, but Ik damn well he was holding so much shit back

[formal galleon]

i felt so bad when kwite said in the video “if anyone of my friends who have distanced themselves are watching this, please reach out”

[thorny arrow]

I just find it funny all the creators who jumped on the chance to dog him are now turning around and using his evidence video to act like they did nothing and use it as an example

[formal galleon]

it proves just how much kwite has lost and how saddened he is to lose his friends.

[thorny arrow]

I've never seen so many videos get privated so fast

[jaunty marsh]

That and how embarrassed he is to have to reveal personal stuff & insecurities

[coarse anvil]

[normal pagoda]

I don't even have empathy and I don't usually have sympathy for a lot of people, but oms the rage I felt was too hard to resist feeling myself

[formal galleon]

now that he’s had to reveal it all the chances of him even coming back are so low its saddening

[smoky pumice]

Yeah

I wouldn't blame him though

[jaunty marsh]

Oh the ones with ppl shitting on Kwite? Yea they did that cause they all knew they fucked up big time

[formal galleon]

he won’t ever have that anonymity again

[timid marsh]

I have faith he'll come back.

[thorny arrow]

I just really hope that whatever he chooses makes him happy because he's done nothing but be a voice of reason for other people

[jaunty marsh]

Yea it was to the point where I wanted to scream and cry, and it’s rare to get me to that point over online drama that doesn’t even involve me

[thorny arrow]

And it's really unfair he wasn't granted the same opportunity

[thin laurel]

also this might seem bad but why did people say that others staying neutral is the reason why victims cant reach out and expose others??

[jaunty marsh]

Ik, I hope he comes back at some point, but not too soon. He needs to focus on his mental health, otherwise if his mental health is in shambles then it won’t be long till it’s like that with his physical health

[thorny arrow]

Because they have an all or nothing attitude

Its different whenever an accusation like that comes out against a regular person and a content creator imo. A content creator is far more likely to have an ulterior motivation than a regular person as I have seen

[thin laurel]

this has happened way too many times before, people treating the accused like ass and harassing them but now they wanna apologise and say that they will not jump to conclusions next time but they always do

[jaunty marsh]

It’s disgusting how people think that way. Orion and those same people, make it hard for ppl like Kwite & me to actually tell our story :/

[normal pagoda]

Right. Orion really fucked up. Though, it was mainly how much of a victim Kwite actually was in this situation that brings the rage to life, seeing him as more human than I've ever seen anyone be, it killed me to watch.

[thorny arrow]

So you take the information, you stop consuming accused's content and wait for them to say something. Not bully and harass them for something that already had Shakey evidence

[formal galleon]

^^^

[thorny arrow]

I personally didn't even hear about this mess until I watched kwites video

[jaunty marsh]

It took me a few days to actually watch his video, the amount of emotions I felt was indescribable and I almost broke down when I finally was able to finish it

[formal galleon]

the best thing to always do in these situations, when its a content creator vs. someone— you always remain neutral and quiet about it until both sides have spoken. and then you can decide where you reaide

[thorny arrow]

And then for the people who went straight to bullying and harassment knowing that orion had tried to smear kwite multiple times before, you should be completely ashamed of yourself

[jaunty marsh]

Agreed. And then for folks misgendering orion and whatnot, yea he ain’t shit, but that doesn’t mean you misgender

[thorny arrow]

His gender has nothing to do with what he did, his actions were deplorable but that doesn't mean you need to interject to push your political opinion

Is my thoughts at least

[jaunty marsh]

100% agreed

[thorny arrow]

I just feel horrible about this whole thing. No one deserves this and I do truly hope he can recover

[jaunty marsh]

Hold on, this video is saying Orion came clean and apologized to Kwite, im p sure it’s photoshopped, but if not then that means Orion deleted the tweet 🤨

[thorny arrow]

I've been watching for 4 years now, since he was collabing with bluesdank YouTube only and this whole situation just makes my stomach hurt

[normal pagoda]

In this situation, it's best to get him with his own medicine, not entirely because we don't wanna stoop to his level, but yk.

oms, it won't lemme say h1t, it kept stopping me from sending 💀

[thin laurel]

people keep trying to say that BUT THEY JUST WONT LISTEN UGHH

[thorny arrow]

It does no good, he already got what he wanted there's no taking that back. They should never have a platform again though, that's for sure

[thin laurel]

ive never been mad on the internet too much but theres so many situations like this

[jaunty marsh]

Gyat dayum almost every creator that cares & knows of this situation is on orions ass

[thin laurel]

this has ruined kwites life

[thorny arrow]

I'm just glad he got to speak about it and debunk it all really

I hope the people who distanced themselves will come around.

[buoyant rampart]

Let's be real, some people are just looking for a fight. They just need an excuse to pick a fight with someone so that they can come off as heroes under the guise of "vengance". So the motive hasn't changed for the psychos. The only difference is now they have a new excuse of wanting to avenge Kwite

[thorny arrow]

Yeah

[jaunty marsh]

And I just realized something, isn’t Dream going through the same thing? If so then that means if the dream accusations came first, the Orion took that and p much tried to get clout off of a potential victim (idk the full thing on dream, so ima do what’s best and stay neutral with it all in dreams situation)

[buoyant rampart]

Probably clout chasing. The only problem is Orion probably didn't expect Kwite to actually refute the allegations.

[tulip phoenix]

Wait what happened to dream

[jaunty marsh]

Apparently the same thing Kwite’s going through

[sharp burrow]

Not necessarily

[buoyant rampart]

So it was a pretty stupid, extremely self-destructive plan that relied entirely on having your target (who is under a spotlight) not responding at all.

[thorny arrow]

Or expected him to get drowned out by the hate

[balmy storm]

Dream has had this happen many times before I'm pretty sure?

[thorny arrow]

It seemed like orion didn't know he still had the discord dms.

[jaunty marsh]

Oh god

[jaunty marsh]

Lmfao didn’t expect him to pull up with a fuck ton a receipts

[balmy storm]

Orion doesn't know how discord works

[formal galleon]

wow discord lagged hella for me

[formal galleon]

i like how orion said how "kwite is deleting the discord dms with a bot" yet here's kwite, with ALL the dms LMFAO

[pallid vigil]

Mans reversed it

Also gm kwitecord

[thorny arrow]

I feel this was said because he wanted to discredit any dms kwite could find

[jaunty marsh]

How much y’all wanna bet orion gonna find another lame ass excuse to justify his actions?

[timid marsh]

kwite literally gave everyone the receipts

[timid marsh]

I expect another sudden out of nowhere mental problem to show up

[thorny arrow]

Allllll of the receipts, literally everything

[jaunty marsh]

How do you even delete dms with a fucking bot 😭

[thorny arrow]

Either that or a half assed apology along with being "manic"

[formal galleon]

not to mention the dms prove orion said some preeetty uh,, controversial things in the messages

[balmy storm]

How would they even know they were deleting dms with a bot??

[thorny arrow]

Straight up bullying tbh

[formal galleon]

it's def going to be something like that, like how "i'm manic and i'm blaming my disorder for this, yaddah yaddah i didn't know any better "

[timid marsh]

Honestly, I doubt Orion will ever apologize. They will just straight up hide from the whole thing in their own little circle of pity until things calm down.

[thorny arrow]

Still can't provide an actual diagnosis form too...

[jaunty marsh]

“I’m telling the truth, but since none of you wanna believe me here’s my (insert random diagnosis that’s yet again forged and fake) as proof”

[pallid vigil]

Yes you did you planned this for like 4 years and had 0 evidence

[balmy storm]

Orion makes a YouTuber apology video

[thorny arrow]

Get the eyedrops

[formal galleon]

like im diagnosed with some stuff but you dont see me out here making fake claims and trying to ruin someones life

[thin laurel]

someone get the tear stick

[sharp burrow]

Needs a dog

[formal galleon]

a diagnosis does not give you a free pass to do whatever you please

[jaunty marsh]

How the fuck do you not know any better, im younger than both Kwite & orion and Ik damn well not to do any of this shit 😭

[thorny arrow]

Especially lie about something like that

[jaunty marsh]

Sieanna mae style 😻👏🏾/S

[balmy storm]

Orion makes a dance video like that one girl

[formal galleon]

"hey guys actually it was my bpd/ptsd that made me lie and do this so sorry xoxo"

[thorny arrow]

I think I'm more on the side that he will never say anything about it again, probably deactivate all account and make news ones after one last attempt and making kwite look bad with faked or out of context bs

[pallid vigil]

He gave all the context tho

[jaunty marsh]

That is if the police don’t get to him before that

[terse harness]

Whats orions partners tiktok?

[thorny arrow]

Also. Kwites response video took time because he was gathering evidence and all the dms before they could be deleted or altered. Theyre all out there now, so what's taking orion so long to respond...

[formal galleon]

i think thats a strong possibility but also ultimately you will be found. when you do something like this you become a major target on the internet. the best thing orion might do if he doesn't own up for his actions is never go on the internet again.

[buoyant rampart]

Yeah, I bet Orion will just delete all existing accounts and make new ones, none the worse for wear.

[jaunty marsh]

Yes he did, and if orion smart enough (which I’m hoping this doesn’t happen), then he’ll probably make the same accusations under a different name

[timid marsh]

either that or the accounts get banned

[tough veldt]

Some people said they got kicked out of their main account temporarily because of mass reports or something

[thorny arrow]

Especially when people were like "kwites response is taking too long that means he's guilty!!!"

[timid marsh]

Yeah not even temporarily, in order for Orion to use their main twitter they have to delete all the violated tweets which is pretty much all the kwite accusations

[buoyant rampart]

Again, Orion might as well just delete everything and start anew with a different account

[tough veldt]

I assume they’ll eventually post again through a new account or a friends account

And try to spew some more bs

[formal galleon]

Real dude

[jaunty marsh]

It’s cause he’s tryna find some typa fuck ass lie or accusation to make. My gut is telling me (if) he ever says anything, it’s gonna involve a child. If it does, I’m gonna lose it

[pallid vigil]

One of the people here is Bungs sibling so we do get some responses here and there

[thorny arrow]

I feel bad for bung too

[formal galleon]

So did we all see the fake ptsd thing or what

kwite just posted on his alt that there are probably not going to be anymore videos/streams, and he'll be less active

i really hope he comes back

[jaunty marsh]

Didn’t bung egg this on?

[thorny arrow]

Seems like she got the short end of the stick trying to help someone she thought was being hurt

[silent pecan]

I was told to post this here so, I just watched the video and this is definitely not how we wanted a face reveal. I think Kwite feels the same way too. Honestly, Kwite has been a favorite of mine and I watched him all the time. I feel bad for Kwite. This is not something anyone should go through.

[formal galleon]

YES HE DOES OMG

[thorny arrow]

As far as I know she believed orion and wanted to support orion

[jaunty marsh]

OH ok I get it now, I thought bung made things worse 😭

[tough veldt]

It’s a sad world we live in, when anyone can accuse someone of horrible things and get people to stand behind them with like 0 proof

[thorny arrow]

But I could be wrong

[pallid vigil]

The fucking flat earthers started this

[timid marsh]

orion is a flat earther

[formal galleon]

And didn't Orion said that believing the victim costs less "braincells" or something

[jaunty marsh]

Awe hell not those mfs

[tough veldt]

The fact that people legitimately have been saying “guilty until proven innocent” for this situation

You can’t prove a negative

[jaunty marsh]

And this is why we should all just mind our own damn business 😻👏🏾

Like there’s far much more worse going on currently and you wanna sit there and harass a YouTuber over false accusations. Bffr

[formal galleon]

what i will say boys about this whole incident: this was not on my 2023 bingo card

[thorny arrow]

"it costs less to believe a liar than believe the abuser (different word here that I can't use)"

[silent pecan]

Yeah. And most of the time, women use their advantage (being a woman) to ruin innocent people’s lives. And all it takes is 3 words. People need to be better than this

[jaunty marsh]

This makes me wanna make a 2024 bingo card

[timid marsh]

I did have "Youtuber accused of stuff" on might

[formal galleon]

i didn't man. i had hope. i had faith in this year.

[timid marsh]

but then again I also had "Youtube proves to be innocent in drama"

[pallid vigil]

Don't compare Orion to flat earthers, it's disrespectful to the flat earthers (/hj)

[silent pecan]

At least flat earthers are better than Orion and space deniers

[harsh linden]

i believe i heard someone say something along the lines of "listen to the victim, not trust" fits well with orion's situation

[thorny arrow]

I just don't understand how people would believe that without any evidence in the first place

[tough veldt]

2023 already fucked up, 2024 gonna be the best Fr

[thorny arrow]

Kwite is the most supportive content creator I have ever seen

[jaunty marsh]

Idk what to put on 2024 bingo cards

[pallid vigil]

Fr

[thorny arrow]

Least judgemental

[formal galleon]

in all seriousness i hope kwite is doing ok, i can’t even imagine the pain he is going through

[formal galleon]

Don't jinx us

[harsh linden]

nah project willow got approved we're doomed

[pallid vigil]

Also like, the dream accuser had more proof than Orion did tbh

[sharp burrow]

The last "good" year we had was like 2016 or 2018.

[jaunty marsh]

No fr and he makes it clear not to start no bs with anyone he talked about in his videos

[timid marsh]

He did say he is still gonna be posting on twitter at least, so we'll get "updates" about him there

[jaunty marsh]

Damn

[formal galleon]

Yeag

[thorny arrow]

And dream still can't shake that label

[jaunty marsh]

Mhm I saw he posted 20 hours ago, so we know he’s gonna be there at least

[tough veldt]

It’s because people are like “why would anyone lie about the grape with no g” even though it’s been proven multiple times that people do lie about it

[timid marsh]

he posted on his alt like... 15 minutes ago lol

[silent pecan]

Kwite is possibly one of the most funny and caring YouTubers out there. I’ve been watching him for around a year or so and I know that Orion’s allegations are udder bullshit

[jaunty marsh]

Im p sure ppl still call him Rumple Stilskin 😭

[thorny arrow]

Like I said earlier all accusations with someone who has a large following should be taken in a different way that just a normal person

[jaunty marsh]

Oh yea that too!

[thorny arrow]

In my opinion it's the only way to avoid a situation like this

[pallid vigil]

I hope Orion gets what he deserves and Kwite starts feeling better, that's what I atleast want out of this situation

[jaunty marsh]

This whole situation is so not Plump Glowing Hydration Boost/s (If Yk who Wonyoung is you get what I mean 😭)

[formal galleon]

Orion is on a blocking spree rn they ain't gonna get what they deserve

[pallid vigil]

Oof

[formal galleon]

Idk if anyone remembers but this case reminds me of the KPOP star that got accused of the same thing but that’s bc the victim was salty he left her favorite KPOP band.

No way

[pallid vigil]

What's he gonna do, block like the whole internet?

[jaunty marsh]

Ofc. The blocking spree. Of fucking course

[tough veldt]

I swear bruh the internet gives assholes too much freedom to do a ton of shit

[main valley]

who knows honestly

[formal galleon]

Their existence is why Confinement has less supporters than ever

[knotty dome]

Once again disappointed to see that Orion is still silent

[formal galleon]

“I’m taking a break…”

[pallid vigil]

He's on lock

[knotty dome]

I am oh so eager to see his epic rebuttal to the mountain of shit Kwite put up

[main valley]

and the sucky part was that I rewatched the entire confinement series like 2 days before Kwite responded; I didn’t even know Dani was affiliated with this whole thing

[formal galleon]

Imma be real with yall rq

[timid marsh]

They are locked out their twitter, and have privated all their other platforms.

[humble orbit]

damn yall still talkin bout this?

[jaunty marsh]

Oh he’s cooking something up I believe, something that none of us can eat cause it’s nasty and makes no fucking sense

[formal galleon]

Ain’t that what this thread for

[knotty dome]

Ah

[silent pecan]

Dani? The blue guy with glasses that loves milk and is a game developer?

[formal galleon]

I would like to see someone come up with their info

[timid marsh]

Don't be real, be artificial like all chicken nuggies

[main valley]

Dani, lord bung, creator of the confinement series

[silent pecan]

Oh. K

[formal galleon]

There's a video of a chicken eating a chicken nugget

Frucking cannibals

[main valley]

what I find especially crazy though is that Orion said he would treat the video with the “utmost respect it deserves” and then posts a forged medical document the very next tweet; this is priceless

[timid marsh]

I doubt orion will ever respond, if anything they will hide until the drama is over and forgotten and then try to come back

[formal galleon]

No bcs the headline of that got me like "I'm 10 mins into this and already tons of lying" bffr

[jaunty marsh]

Oh see my petty ass wouldn’t let anyone forget ab this for the simple fact of that pick me bitch ruined someone’s online life & irl life

[formal galleon]

i hope orion is in jail ❤️

[thorny arrow]

The multiple attempts to smear him and then act like it never happened when kwite gave them another chance to then do this is what killed me

[waxen bridge]

if Orion is capable of forging a document, and lying about SA, imagine what else he can do. Don't forget his tweet on: "I have so much power, I can do so much to ruin Kwite"

its scary

[timid marsh]

And yet... ran the moment there was any resistance from Kwite

[formal galleon]

Right bro

[main valley]

true, but you also gotta love the typos and errors that literally would and could never happen on a real diagnosis, such as “posttraumatic stress disorder” and the same two symptoms showing up twice

[formal galleon]

RIGHT DUDE I WAS CRACKING UP ON THAT

[thorny arrow]

And again the symptoms being copy pasted from mayo clinic.

[main valley]

true!

[jaunty marsh]

Indeed

[formal galleon]

I was cackling to myself in bed at 3 am from that

[thorny arrow]

Word for word

[waxen bridge]

yeah, I was like if youre gonna forge a document, why not at least make it look legit.....

[main valley]

“the utmost respect it deserves”

[terse harness]

This person called VYIDAE on twitter is being really annoying and trying to make out anyone who didn't automatically side with the "victim" be in the wrong even if you were neutral. One of their tweets are.

"That's not being neutral. Being neutral means not believing the potential victim, which is inherently siding with the potential abuser."

Another one is

"This chart is objectively correct and not stupid unlike what everyone is saying. Everyone talking about how "LOL I was right all along for staying neutral and being skeptical" Is a moron at best and a bad person at worst."

Which connects with that one image that shows to choices which is Sidng with the victim or the abuser and shows no neutral stand point. They also showed another picture in another tweet showing all three stand points but shows neutral as

"you will not believe you or take you seriously until other person responds or you come up with daming evidence."

Which basically tries to paint being neutral as siding with the accused which is overall a bad mindset and their just picking fights

[formal galleon]

shits on it 10 mins in

[jaunty marsh]

And the repeating of works 😻👏🏾

[main valley]

the only thing he’s shitting on is himself at this point

[formal galleon]

JUST ONE THING ALREAYD IT MADE IT FAKE. THE FORKAIGN SIGNATURE

[formal galleon]

Did they get backlash

[jaunty marsh]

LMFAO FR also how was he “lying” 10 minutes in, he only gave an introductory in the 10 minutes 😭

[formal galleon]

Are the backlashes more liked than their stupid tweets

[jaunty marsh]

Another think orion lied about, watching the video

[main valley]

yes, but the fact that so much is wrong with it just makes it a piece of art

[formal galleon]

Right dude it pissed me off and made me cackle I was watching from a distance

[terse harness]

They are but I think more people are agreeing with them in the comments then the backlash

[thorny arrow]

!! You don't have to harass and bully the accused while supporting the accuser !!

[formal galleon]

I wanna see it hung up in a art museum and all the money goes to kwite

[formal galleon]

I can’t find them

[main valley]

nah literally the top reply to his fake diagnosis last time I checked was yahiamice saying “what about the other 81 minutes of it”

[thorny arrow]

If you use critical thinking you would also understand that kwite has a large amount of followers... And we have all seen how that goes

[formal galleon]

AND THE FACT THERE WERE 2 STATEMENTS THAT WERE THE EXACT SAME THING, NO ALTERATIONS, JUST CTRL C + CTRL V

What’s their username

[thorny arrow]

Kwite just made an irrefutable response unlike others who were accused but ultimately innocent

I stand by that being the only reason people are switching up

[formal galleon]

I checked the tweet a few hrs after and a LOT of the comment were either blocked or deleted and a few people were allowed to comment, just shows their running

[thorny arrow]

Because they are undeniably wrong for bullying him and there is no way around it to save face

[main valley]

well slazo’s response was pretty good back when he was in that situation

[jaunty marsh]

I just realized, orion is a cosplayer (I’m one too), if I follow him on tiktok I’m gonna cry

[waxen bridge]

Yes imagine if there was no evidence, no screenshots, or if Kwite decided to delete all the messages between him and Orion. He wouldve been innocent and no way to prove it . That sucks!

[main valley]

but your point stands

[thorny arrow]

Slazo had a really good response

[terse harness]

Their at is VYIDAE

[formal galleon]

Quick search everywhere

[formal galleon]

On Twitter?

[thorny arrow]

Or if orion had the brain to alter messages...

[formal galleon]

Because I can’t find it

[waxen bridge]

indeed omg...

[thorny arrow]

Go back and edit them or delete them to skew the conversation

[terse harness]

Yes I can link in dms if you want?

[formal galleon]

Yes

[thorny arrow]

And he might have tbh... And just left what he thought was deniable

[formal galleon]

Or make it worse - put the (edited) word onto Kwite’s messages instead to make it look like he edited it

[main valley]

remember that one twitter space Orion had with a few other people?
“guys guys you should always believe a victim with next to no solid evidence because it costs you nothing and like, what’s the worst that could happen? You ruin a potentially innocent person’s life? Ahhhh pish-posh”

[terse harness]

Now that's low key smart

[main valley]

“smart” and “Orion” do not belong in the same sentence; there’s your issue/hj

[formal galleon]

I'm gonna laugh at this for about 5 mins now

[thorny arrow]

I also don't think he imagined kwite would ever come straight out and just lay everything on the table, the whole Convo, his face, everything

[terse harness]

[jaunty marsh]

Doing that rn

[formal galleon]

Also, what was the proof Orion had shown I don't remember

[thorny arrow]

Some out of context discord dms

[formal galleon]

Just Kwite showing his mascot and that was it

[jaunty marsh]

When you realize orion has the same name as a rly pretty influencer that inspires you 😭

[formal galleon]

oh, that's.. something.

[thorny arrow]

And some pictures of kwite that he begged to have and keep even though kwite wasn't comfortable. In which orion sent around to multiple people years ago before posting them as evidence

[formal galleon]

Man I'm feeling like playong royal high sunset island today dude

[thorny arrow]

Where orion is laying his head on kwite and kwite is visually uncomfortable

[formal galleon]

also apparently Orion is also racist, making jokes about Kwite being half Asian (Filipino American to be that matter.)

[formal galleon]

I was tearing up when I seen those because I thought it was over w8th for kwitw

[thorny arrow]

Yep, be conveniently left of the conversations of him calling kwite asian slurs

[main valley]

gotta talk about how dani was saying like, “yeah Kwite seemed really transactional socially when we shared a bnb” and then Kwite was like “yeah no shit that was a business trip”

[thorny arrow]

This made me laugh

[waxen bridge]

If you grab all the evidence that Orion shown all of them were taken out of context when you see the real messages in Kwite's video. Also it was a way to trick the audience into believing him. Showing photos of them together in a selfie should be painful if you're a victim of SA, right? So, why did he show that? Talking about someone who SA you in a praiseful manner is also suspicious

Orion is obsessed with Kwite

[formal galleon]

Right dude I like u u think like me except I can't talk my ahit

[flint hull]

fr

[waxen bridge]

🙂

[formal galleon]

If I talk my shit too much I get too angry I can't

[buoyant rampart]

Tho part of me does have to wonder if Kwite had to reveal his face? He has matured since those photos were taken. Plus he grew out his hair and got a pair of glasses, he is practically unrecognizable from the dude in the photos.

[flint hull]

it's to be completely transparent, probably

[waxen bridge]

I think he had to for people to take him seriously. As his anonimity was way less important than proving his innocennce

[main valley]

this

[formal galleon]

Yeah otherwise half of us won’t take it seriously

[waxen bridge]

By him doing that alone I believed him 100%. If he chose to remain anonymous, I think his credibility would've went down 50%

[flint hull]

and people are praising his response vid bro, that shi well made

[formal galleon]

Racism, Forgery, Defamation, what can Orion NOT do? Tell the truth, that's what.

[waxen bridge]

Yes he's so smart and articulate isn't he? It took me by surprise, I watched the whole thing with full attention

[thorny arrow]

Why keep the images of you and your assaulter...

[formal galleon]

I'd praise it too, shii I'll kiss the ground that video walks on

[flint hull]

yeah same here, i wasn't expecting it bc most of the time he's all goof and fonni
mans impressive fr

[waxen bridge]

Indeed, this! I wouldn't at all, I would try and delete that person out of my mind

[flint hull]

lmAOO daamn

[formal galleon]

We all know we would if we could

[thorny arrow]

Why would you try and run a smear campaign twice without mentioning objectively the worst thing the person supposedly do to you

[flint hull]

nahh he just obsessed w Kwite bc Kwite gave him the validation he oh so craved

[timid marsh]

welp, I got a headache trying to remember Orion bs so now I can't enjoy my coffee ;-;

[thorny arrow]

And then continue to try and become friends with your assaulter again multiple times

[flint hull]

man

[flint hull]

this tho

[thorny arrow]

Only to come out with the worst of it AFTER they cut you off for putting a drain on their mental health

[main valley]

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Orion started making tweets like “Kwite actually killed me”

[waxen bridge]

And with a mediator even. And the mediator even encouraged Kwite to do it in the middle of a hurricane. Why would they do that if they both knew Kwite had SA'd Orion?

[formal galleon]

I hope Kwite never forgives Orion

[formal galleon]

Same dude

[jaunty marsh]

Sweet fuck Kwite isn’t the only victim orion has done things to

[formal galleon]

This is why my parent tell me not to trust nobody

[thorny arrow]

Because the discord call is so much more important than a natural disaster

[flint hull]

i aint gon lie, i went through some stuff and I immediately severed ties w the person i had a conflict w
even today, i can't stand even thinking of the person auf