#On the Edge of Gone - Corinne Duyvis

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brave lotusBOT
weak sentinel
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@weak sentinel,@river raven,@clear crescent,@steel tiger,@median plaza,@celest remnant,@haughty latch,@potent quartz,@shrewd crescent,@azure junco,@hardy hornet,@tacit pine

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hi pals! welcome to the 'on the edge of gone' buddy read! ૮ • ﻌ - ა
please remember to ping me if you'd like to leave or if you'd like an extension towards the end— and be sure to share your (censored) thoughts along the way! ᕙ( •̀ ᗜ •́ )ᕗ
excluding extensions this buddy will take place between MAY 20 - JULY 30

here are some questions to start;

  1. what prompted you to join this buddy read/pick up this book? (was it me? •̀_•́)

  2. have you read many books that feature an autistic main character?

  3. what are you expecting from this book? (if unsure, feel free to just share general hopes/predictions :3)

  4. this book says that a (planet-destroying) comet will be arriving janaury 29, 2035.. are you ready? ⊙ _ ⊙

apologies for the basic questions! feel free to share any extra information you deem important! thank you all for joining me, i hope we have a fun time! ^^

weak sentinel
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-# typo above, meant january not janaury animeAwkwardHeh
thank you gregg

hardy hornet
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Heya people

  1. I honestly just joined it on impulse :') ||yes it was u too||
  2. I dont think i have read any books that feature an autistic MC
  3. Honestly im going in blind, i just the summary posted for it, seemed interesting so here i am T^T
  4. I get to celebrate my 27 birthday already, so eh, ive lived most of my youth, so hell ya, bring it on
river raven
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  1. kauli scifi br ytakemyheart
  2. nope, excited to read this one
  3. some cool scifi stuff to with the mc having to overcome challenges and things, hopefully they survive!
  4. i mean lowkey i feel like we would have gone extinct by then with all the stuff thats going on rn so it probably wont come to meet me alive kekCry
shrewd crescent
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I got my copy from the library today but it might be early july before I read it kirbyDance

potent quartz
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  1. it sounded really interesting and kauli leading it is a definite bonus < 3
  2. i don't think i have?
  3. a lot of cool science that i will need to google to understand
  4. i'll be like 30+ by then so i'll have lived decently i guess
river raven
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I have started, its very anxiety inducing so far lol

river raven
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Ch 4 ||so the comet is finally hitting, lowkey this is bothering me a bit that they had literally six months to build the ships and somehow they are massive af with parks and all that gorgeous stuff and they can last centuries in space?? hmmmmmmmm idk abt that. also if they had so much fricking space why wouldnt u try and get more pple on. and the fact that when anke showed them there she was like “you can take any of these cabins” which means there are spare cabins??? but for some reason they cant take a shower they can only wash their hands and only drink their own water. but they have enough water for a brook and stuff idk this is actually annoying me a lil. also the mom is so annoying and irresponsible?? why were they not taking the threat of a literal comet coming along seriously! and when are we gonna find out what happened to iris||

river raven
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ch 8 || damn that was intense, i understand the fear that shes gonna get kicked out of the ship and die but like that was literally so pointless. would not help her case at all. lets see where this goes. im glad i got an explanation for why theres so many empty cabins and space and stuff and that theres a waitlist. i still think the mom is irresponsible. ||

weak sentinel
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go naya go

river raven
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ch 11 ||oh i actually really hate the mom now ewwww she’s one of those ww that have biracial kids and then let pple be racist to them, shes so neglectful and lowkey doesnt even seem supportive of denise and she dgaf abt iris. Here denise is trying to find a way to help her family stay on the ship and go find her sister and the mom is being useless. smh maybe im too judgy. i hope she gets kicked out for bringing drugs but iris and denise can stay||

weak sentinel
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jan 29 2035 isnt looking good Vix_stare

river raven
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lol tbf it’s spanning across several days

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also there’s like 60 something chapters lol

weak sentinel
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yay short chapters

river raven
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ch 17 ||that was so cringe and pick me ish i rolled my eyes so hard. pls enough talk abt nerdy white boys go find ur fricking sister and get on the ship. who th thinks abt kissing pple at the end of the world ||

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ch 19 ||im sorry WHAT. the girl thats been helping you and being your friend just got left behind and drowned and you are telling her mom you couldnt wait for her anyway omg yeah this not the time buddy ||

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ch 20 || HALLELUJAH the mom has been expurged ||

weak sentinel
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damn eyesShaky

river raven
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lowkey everyone is pissing me off kekCry

weak sentinel
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oh no

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pls not another frustrating book

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i already dnfed one br im hosting

river raven
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ch 26 ||bro seriously im actually getting very annoyed now. lying to the couple for a scooter? leaving ur ship to go god knows where with literally no plan idk what she thinks is gonna happen. this is so stupid. at this point im not even rooting for her anymore. ||

river raven
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ch 37 ||atp i wont even be mad if they all get caught and kicked off idek where this is heading but ive lost interest ||

river raven
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ch 43 ||finally its getting more interesting. i hope they get the kid on board, so sad||

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also for those who are doing the June readathon this book has a trans biracial bisexual girl and the mc ofc being an autistic biracial girl and its written by a queer autistic author oiiaCat

weak sentinel
river raven
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i finished

weak sentinel
river raven
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ehhhh lots of thoughts i’ll share later, ending was good the rest idk

tame chasmBOT
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ehhhh lots of thoughts i’ll
share later, ending was good
the rest idk

weak sentinel
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i'll hopefully be reading this soon so i can discuss it with you ><

tame chasmBOT
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i'll hopefully be
reading this soon so i can
discuss it with you ><

weak sentinel
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haiku gtfo

river raven
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i gave it 2/5 i want to give it 3/5 but i needa think about it

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its not bad but the middle part was such a drag and i hate the mom so much it’s not even funny

weak sentinel
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is she supposed to be hated or is she just a shit character /gq

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because if i have to deal with one more badly written character ill explode

river raven
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i think im just a very morally questionable person lmaooo i dont have a lot of empathy for some things but hmm i think shes meant to be disliked or misunderstood or maybe kinda empathised with but i just think shes a shit person or pple like her irl are shit pple

weak sentinel
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pepeHmm im excited to judge

river raven
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yeah there were a lot of dilemmas in this book that makes you go whos right and whos wrong and what would you do in that situation.

weak sentinel
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theres a chance im going to be super biased because im finally reading another book with an autistic mc kek

river raven
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i always tend to lowkey lean a bit more towards the “bad pple” tho so meh who knows maybe im just tweaking

like they are not bad they’re just more logical and objective and tend to choose the easy way out for the best

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i think denise being autistic made for a really interesting pov but also i think it was kinda a cop out

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cos you could argue the reason why such and such was ignored or overlooked was because she was hyper focused on this and that but then you could also argue it’s shit writing

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its unique and honestly it was actually really heavy for me becos she has meltdowns and theres situations where pple are veryyyy disrespectful of her and inconsiderate to the point of abuse imo so i felt it very badly which ig is something to keep in mind when reading

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little bean

river raven
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she just wants her cats and her sister

weak sentinel
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thank you for the warning /g

river raven
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npp i wish i had the warning omg

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so sad

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such a cutie

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especially considering the themes of being “useful and useless” and stuff like that too i was like stoppp

weak sentinel
river raven
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yeh it hurt me lowkey oiiaCat take ur time with it it an interesting read for sure very good imagery too

clear crescent
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I shall be starting this tonight stare
Now I'm nervous after seeing Naya's rating

clear crescent
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Up to chapter 4 - Liking this so far! || Wow I'm drawn into this already.. sooo interested in whats going to happen. But the mum taking her slowass time dawdling along like ?! HURRY TF UP. I'd be screaming and absolutely losing it lmao. Curious about Iris... I am sure she will come back into the story.

The ship sounds interesting. It must have been built long before the announcement of the comet to be that big and complete. Confused as to why there are spare cabins, but I guess it's some elitist skill kinda VIP only ship... meaning there must be a lot more to the teacher and her wife methinks ||

river raven
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i think its just the one character that pmo

clear crescent
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Chapter 13 || ok the mum is driving me bonkers ?? She had 1 job and she stuffed it up. Again omg ||

clear crescent
river raven
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she pmo the whole book

clear crescent
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Chapter 20 || uhhh good riddance. Cya!!!! 016IRLCat_Uhh

Lol jk ok that’s pretty brutal to kick out the mum of a 16 year old but also, understandable kek ||

clear crescent
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Chapter 26 || why is everyone in this universe so dam friendly. Sharing stuff, asking for permission to take supplies first (that are literally life or death for their crew)????

Maybe I’ve been too obsessed with the last of us lately but this is a bit weird. And now she gets a scooter too?? The heck. ||

river raven
clear crescent
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Chester 28 || nevermind, found my selfish character - the mum. She’s very happy to jeopardise her teenage daughter’s safety for her own. I don’t trust her. ||

clear crescent
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Chapter 48 || hearing about the cats being put down makes me tear up everytime I can’t cryge ||

river raven
clear crescent
river raven
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yes i agree! ||i really liked the portrayal of how she felt everytime someone touched her and i love that her sister always asked before||

clear crescent
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I finished!!

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In short: I didn’t like it omg

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The good
|| this started off really strong. The anxiety and desire to read on to find out what’s happening was SO GOOD and having an autistic MC was a really interesting POV and I could relate a lot (except when it dragged).
The mum character was unique in that you kinda hate her, but you see that she’s flawed and she’s so much more than just “an addict”.||

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The bad (imo - no hate kek)
|| this book was far too long than it needed to be. It really really drags in the middle section and it becomes an endless loop of the same plot of Leaving the ship to search for person. Coming back. Leaving ship again to repeat. Stress about the mum being an addict. Getting kicked off the ship. Being allowed back on the ship but shock horror! Now x person isn’t allowed on the ship and whatever will we do, what a dilemma! Bruh this was good the first time but this happens like 4 times???????
I also did not like how nothing bad really happens past miriam dying. It’s like it’s some happy world almost. Not post apocalyptic. I get the cultural differences but even the captain has a revival arc at the end. WazowskiStare I know this is YA but this felt middle school almost. Maybe I just prefer darker reads but this is one of my fave settings in books and games and this book just slaughtered it.
Also the MCs portrayal of autism was good at first, but it felt a bit too overdone (coming from an autistic person myself). I admire the authors mission (reading the authors note) but it got annoying to me. Even tho I saw myself in many of their traits. I think it was because the book dragged on forever the repetition in everything was pepeReally ||

river raven
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agreed!!!!!!!!

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thank god im not the only one who thinks that

clear crescent
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Yeah we do seem to agree nearly
Identically. Maybe I’m a bit harsher but why tf is this 456 pages

river raven
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AGREEEEED

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i actually thought of dnfing

clear crescent
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I could go on for so long about this book which doesn’t always happen for me

river raven
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but i was like surely ||theres a plot twist somewhere and its not just this predictable||

clear crescent
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The start was SO strong

river raven
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went downhill from there

river raven
clear crescent
# river raven but i was like surely ||theres a plot twist somewhere and its not just this pred...

Yeahhh || they try and make the captain this bad guy who’s hoarding all of his space and won’t let people on and what a bad meanie poo!!!!
Meanwhile he basically gives everyone and their dog a chance and gives heaps of exceptions and literally jumps around going NO UR OUT. oh you gave us a barrel of minor supplies??? Wow ty ur back in BlushShrug
Even 5 chapters later he’s changed his mind like huh ||

river raven
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|| Also I’m sorry but if he’s not gonna let the family members of his most useful staff, engineers, on board … but let’s some random addict who’s already broken the rules. And even to let her be back onboardafter she’s smuggled on!!! There would be a mutiny. Was so weird how everyone is just kinda like oh ok I will obey mr captain. When he’s not shown to have any authority whatsoever. Not via respect or scare tactics or anything. I just do not believe the masses would just accept it.

ALSO his whole shtick is he wants a generational ship but seems to do 0 planning for upkeep of genetic diversity, scanning, equal planning for genders lol. That’s like #1 for these kind of ships. I know maybe not a comfy topic but everyone should need to be scanned to make sure they’re fertile as well or the whole ship / humanity is doomed?? ||

clear crescent
river raven
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||i think he was honestly trying to maintain as much peace as possible by not being like “dictator-ish” and pleasing as many pple as he could but unfortunately in situations like this that method doesnt work||

weak sentinel
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hoping to start this soon, maybe?
though i haven’t been doing well, ||especially because of autism related things||, so maybe it isnt the best time to start raccoon

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sigh who knows

azure junco
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Starting this

azure junco
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Up to chapter 16 ||I like this ok, but I’m not getting a strong sense of where the story is going, which I would kind of have expected at this point in the story, a quarter of the way through. It’s just the girl and her extremely frustrating mother hanging around the ship, but then they also want to go look for the sister? Like it’s not bad it’s just kind of aimless ||

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Up to Ch 30 ||Ok, it’s picking up a bit for me now that she has a place on the ship and a job. Her mom should just cool it, she’s not gonna get a spot on the ship and she should just be happy for her daughter. And Iris finally wandered back into the plot!||

azure junco
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Up to ch 48 ||sigh this is all so noble but highly unrealistic. I get Europeans are nicer than Americans, but the fact that no one is turning against others yet is just so distractingly naive. Then again I appreciate it’s YA and we’re not trying to go full dystopian yet. Also I’m not versed enough in science to know if all of those things would happen. An EMP from a comet? A tsunami of water that seems to still have not receded? After the nuclear winter, the ozone layer will disappear? But again I don’t know enough to dispute this, but it sounds heavy||

azure junco
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Ch 57 ||”Youuu. You’re the thief.” Omg I’m cracking up. Just makes me think of that hippie gif||

clear crescent
azure junco
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So I finished and my final thoughts are just wut ||like what do you mean you picked up a 16 year old girl off the street and not only are like "no we only take people on board if they have skills. Oh you're organized? Well ok then!" despite none of this family having any ability to actually follow orders or work as a group, arguably one of the most important traits if you're going to be working on a generation ship. And then by the end it's like, yeah not only can you and your mom stay, neither of whom have any actual useful skills, but we're also just going to completely change the way we operate cause you suggested it." Like if I was on that ship I'd be screaming bloody murder

Story-wise, it was just kind of lacking a focus. It felt very YA in that stuff is just kind of happening and the main character is reacting to it. I didn't feel like the side characters were very well developed, and everyone was just too dang nice. Like the number of opportunities the ship had to just steal shit from people instead of being nice and letting them on the ship. Of course it's highly unethical, I just don't see people being so well-mannered at the end of the world. I think I'm going to have to give this a 2.5||

clear crescent
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YAS tink we finally fully agree on a book

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Today is a good day

azure junco
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It seems the general consensus is not good. I wanted to like it, it's just too ||out there. Oh, I didn't even mention how badly they wanted to telegraph that Iris had a secret. That was not very sublte||

river raven
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lmaooooooo

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i just read ur thoughts and valid

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im so glad cos i was the first one to read it and i was like damn this book is shit but i felt sooo bad to say it and now since everyone agrees i can be like yayyy

azure junco
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Omg yes, that must be so validating

clear crescent
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I personally wouldn’t read another book from this author …but I am still a bit bummed about it because I had such a different impression from the start of the book

river raven
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like i felt bad also cos|| i was like genuinely if i was the captain and shit i would kick them all out and i completely agree with the mom not being brought on because even then its not just abt usefulness its also about having good traits like you lied and shi like why would i have u on my ship? you are not trustworthy enough to be part of the community ||

azure junco
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Ohh I wonder what Becky Chambers would think of this book kekCry

azure junco
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So not to keep dogging on this book (but I’m gonna) but I was writing in my book journal and I came up with ||it’s like the apocalypse only happened to give a 16 year old girl an opportunity for growth, which she promptly did not do||

weak sentinel
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this cover is so beautiful :3

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chapter one
||- is this going to be another really frustrating (/neg) book? Sad_Monke

  • the mother is already upsetting me, imagine being this nonchalant about going to a BUNKER that is hopefully going to protect you from a COMET? i truly can't understand the reasoning behind that, but fuck it we move
  • i'm already relating to the main character a lot, especially with the smaller parts of how she's moving/ thinking.
  • the 'support' from someone around you that doesn't actually help you, it just makes them feel better. yellowsideeye ||
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ch2 [pg 9-10]
||'it feels more and more as though i'm missing something obvious, like i skipped instructions everyone else must've gone.'
i understand why this is used in a lot of autistic lit, because it is a very common feeling for autistic people but i am so tired of reading this exact line over and over again. don't just straight up tell me, show me saveme||

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ch2
||- i genuinely would've just left my mother and found a way to the shelter (i believe transport specifically to the shelters was mentioned before) if she was acting like this. jfc. SpoderMan

  • ms maasland; as disgusting as i think it is to play with peoples lives like this when they're helping you, i understand. she did what she needed to do to protect herself and her loved ones. feels bad for denise though*.
    *it was mentioned just before that they 'hardened' themselves over the past few months so they'd be able to do what they needed to (ex. protect themselves over other people, probably take resources from others if necessary etc) but that is immediately nullified by denise's mother. loafSideEye ||
weak sentinel
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very unsure of how i feel about this book so far

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it feels like somethings missing but i’m not sure what notsureif

weak sentinel
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still unsure about this omg

weak sentinel
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up to ch14
||as expected, i do not like the mother at all. but i also don't like the way she's been written. i wish we knew more about her & her past instead of her just being this cold, basic, flat character who's just there to 'mess things up' for the main character.

i do appreciate seeing the dynamic between an autistic child & mentally ill parent, as that's what i've experienced myself, but it could be so much better if they actually explored the mothers character. or even had more complex discussions on the way denise & iris feel about her.||

weak sentinel
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up to pg 140 and i’m really not that interested soodge

clear crescent
weak sentinel
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near 500 pgs

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oh closer to 450, my bad

potent quartz
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started today, and up to ch 6! ||that mothers sounds like a nightmare to live with omg. Putting aside the being late thing (OMG?? way too calm for that shit) the way she keeps undermining Denise jfc. The start has been really intriguing so far, but I always get so shocked when real world places are mentioned lmao ||

weak sentinel
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i think i’m dnfing! not sure if i’m completely stopping, but i’m not interested in continuing right now.

potent quartz
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up to ch 18 ||i don’t know if im the insane one but everyone is too calm??? Like the world is literally on fire around you but sure let’s play a game and flirt who cares. I would not be leaving my safe haven for anything. The mum also sucks big time. High and showered? what a b*tch||

clear crescent
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up to ch 26|| i’m honestly kind of bored? like not a lot is happening and everyone is taking this entire situation pretty calmly? I guess I was just hoping for something more dramatic. Was also fully expecting for the mom to sneak and stay on the ship but i guess she’s too high for that. Also the way everyone treats Denise is like… off? Can’t put it into words but I don’t like it.||

potent quartz
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up to ch 33 ||im switching between this and tsitp and i can't tell which pisses me off more lmao. Hate the mom, don't trust Iris tbh, so far Els is the only character i'll tolerate. ||

potent quartz
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up to ch 51 ||i have like 20% left and I feel like absolutely nothing has happened. I got so excited when the niece was mentioned because omg drama! but literally got resolved within 20 pages cause she was already gone ;-; Also the MC is like really selfish and rude? I'm not gonna comment on anything specific because I don't want to accidentally say something offensive but if I were Max I'd be a lot more pissed. What do you mean your drug addicted mother is on board??? gtfo the absolute audacity||

potent quartz
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finished! ||ngl i'm feeling pretty unsatisfied by this book. I still don't think a lot happened and it just wasn't interesting. It's a shame because the premise sounded so cool and I was really hoping for Wall-E vibes or something similar but oh well. Still hate the mom, don't know why I shouldn't she stayed the same, Iris is just ok and the MC is also just meh. None of them felt very fleshed out and i'm disappointed they dragged out boring parts but skipped over the itneresting ones. Like the niece?? hello is the baby alive or not?? The entire "oh there aren't helicopters" and them deciding to stay and help just felt like a cheap last-attempt at an attention grab. I'm feeling underwhelmed tbh. That said, I did appreciate reading a new type of POV and the beginning was well-written it just.... fizzled out too much||

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||i just read back and im so glad im not the only one questioning this book lmao||

brave lotusBOT
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@weak sentinel,@river raven,@clear crescent,@steel tiger,@median plaza,@celest remnant,@haughty latch,@potent quartz,@shrewd crescent,@azure junco,@hardy hornet,@tacit pine

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hello! this is the official mid check in for the 'on the edge of gone' buddy read! please don't panic as you still have until the end of july to finish this book! :D

some questions for those who've finished, please remember to censor spoilers!
1a. who was your least favourite character & why?
1b. who was your favourite character & why?
2. what did you think of the world building?
3. what would you change about this book? (feel free to say as little or as much as you'd like :'))

i'll repost the currently reading/read post below, ping me if it needs updating! please remember, this buddy reads on july 30th <3

weak sentinel
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currently reading:
read: naya, mzcookies, tink, mena

river raven
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1a. i think everyone is probably gonna unanimously vote for the mother ||she is selfish right from the start to the end, doesnt respect her daughters and is also lowkey racist||
1b. ||Iris and Max, iris is very brave and protective and so is max. i like characters like that||
2. ||the concept was sooooo interesting, the execution was not as good as it could have been. i really like the idea of the ship and bunkers and the whole flooding thing was cool too. ||
3. ||probably not having the mom be annoying for no other reason than she is. ||

clear crescent
# brave lotus hello! this is the official mid check in for the 'on the edge of gone' buddy rea...
  1. || Definitely the mother. I couldn't deal with her attitude and uselessness ||
  2. || I didn't really feel strongly about anyone (in a positive way) woops imma negative Nancy. Maybe the MC I forgot her name.... simply because I liked the representation of an autistic MC ||
  3. || Damn that's a loaded question. I would completely cut half the book out to make the plot more centred on something of interest, cut the repetitive nature of get on ship, leave ship, repeat....... make the mother less useless. Change to more of a realistic focus and have some actual conflict in there that makes sense, make the Captain guy more of a Captain ........ the list goes on ||
weak sentinel
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does anyone know when they're going to pick this up? GC_Smile

shrewd crescent
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I'm going to say mid-month as a guesstimate

brave lotusBOT
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@river raven,@clear crescent,@steel tiger,@median plaza,@celest remnant,@haughty latch,@potent quartz,@shrewd crescent,@azure junco,@hardy hornet,@tacit pine

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reminder that this buddy read ends in 10 days, i won't be doing any extensions as this thread hasn't been very active. :)

azure junco
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Is this still going on? kekCry

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Sorry, I see it just ended, but it feels like it’s been years

brave lotusBOT
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@river raven,@clear crescent,@steel tiger,@median plaza,@celest remnant,@haughty latch,@potent quartz,@shrewd crescent,@azure junco,@hardy hornet,@tacit pine

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hey all and thank you for joining this buddy read!
the buddy read has now ended and I'll be submitting the report shortly

for finished readers I have naya, mzcookies, tink, and mena
if I have missed you then please let me know

optional questions:

  • does the cover match the vibes of the book?
  • if you had to write an alternate blurb for this book that compared it to other books/authors, which ones would you pick?
  • would you read another book by this author?