#💬│off-topic-chat
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of what?
SO - on the topic of how people vote in the villager vote, specifically if members here favor feminine presenting characters. There were some assumptions being tossed around, and I thought "Hey, if only we had a bunch of data of how people vote" and then I realized we do.
DISCLAIMERS:
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Obviously people could have changed their vote since the time of the vote conclusion. I don't have any reason to think this is widespread enough to cause any issues.
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In order to protect the Sacred
, I asked non-tester community members for how they would describe the entries we don't have confirmed names for yet. -
When talking about the way the silhouette's look in terms of presentation, you have to make some subjective choices here. I'm open to critiques of these choices, but I believe they are fair -
Masculine Presenting: Ashura, Jel, Hassian, Santa Hat, Probably the Cook
Feminine Presenting: Tamala, Kenyatta, Bug Lady, Tish
Children: Auni, Goggles/The Gremlin
Cat: Zeki -
There were two emojis, ❓ and
that have received votes. We have clearly seen that some members will vote for an emoji over a villager, so I've included that data.
RESULTS:
- Winners - if you just look at who has won each week, you have 3 feminine presenting, 1 masculine presenting, one child, one cat, and a tie between Ashura and some punctuation. From that alone, it would be reasonable to assume that feminine presenting characters are favored, however we need to look at how many votes are cast, how many villagers were running each week, and the makeup of each vote.
- There has been an uneven number of villagers in each race, from five in Weeks 3 and 7, to two when Ashura took on a flaccid exclamation point. The average vote per week has gone
Week 1 - 2248 (4 villagers)
Week 2 - 3854 (3 villagers)
Week 3 - 2481 (5 villagers)
Week 4 - 2212 (4 villagers)
Week 5 - 2608 (3 villagers)
Week 6 - 4470 (1 villager, 1 emoji)
Week 7 - 1903 (4 villagers, 1 emoji)
Oh, I can't posts photos in here either. Hmm, gotta upload and link, I guess
The trendline on the chart shows the obvious bit where the more options on a vote, the fewer votes each villager gets. The extreme outlier is Week 6, where Ashura's inevitable victory was boosted by a large propaganda campaign.
- So if we know what the average number of votes per villager is each week, and we know how many of each group there was in the vote and how many votes those groups got, we can see if there are trends there. For example - in Week 3, there were 3 masculine villagers, 1 feminine, and 1 kid. We can figure out the average of those masculine votes, and then see how far off the average vote for each group is from the overall average vote for that week. In Week 3, Auni (kid) got 5300 votes, Kenyatta took 1669, and the three masculine villagers in the group (Ashura, Hassian, and Santa Hat) got a total of 5434, or an average of 1811.
It should be noted that the "masculine" characters in this vote took more overall votes than Kenyatta or Auni, but there were three of them.
We know that the average per villager for Week 3 was 2480, so we can use that to see how each group compared. If you do that for each week, you can get a chart like this:
This shows us that feminine presenting characters were well above average and out-performed masculine presenting counterparts, even when they didn't win. The only exception was of course Kenyatta's dismal performance in Week 3.
Oh, why isn't there any data for Week 6 you ask? Because it was a tie, and neither of the two contestants deviated from the average.
There has not been a week in the villager vote without a masculine presenting character in it, and with the exception of the last two weeks, there has been either 2 or 3 masculine characters to choose from. There has been an average of 2 masculine presenting villagers each week, and only 1.67 feminine presenting characters. The additional choices on the masculine side may also dilute their ability to win.
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Yes, I know that things work out a little different if include Zeki as masculine presenting, or the kids in masculine or feminine presenting groups. But I think it's a pretty fair assumption to say that more people voted for Zeki because they're a Grimalkin and not because they dress like a dude.
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More Graphs -
Here's the distribution of votes per option per week, and the votes by presentation.
CONCLUSION:
If you include Zeki as masculine presenting, you actually have more overall votes for masculine presenting villagers than feminine presenting characters. However, this can be accounted for by the frequency of masculine villagers appearing week after week in the poll. Feminine presenting villagers tend to win votes quickly (Tish won the week she was presented, Tamala only lost to Zeki before being selected, and Kenyatta lost to Auni and then Hassian before being picked. By comparison, Santa Hat had three weeks before getting pulled (and re-added this week), Hassian and Jel both last two weeks, and Ashura had be gerrymandered into a victory after 6 weeks. We still have Probably The Cook and Santa Hat in the running.
Looking at votes by presentation per week, it's closer, but the feminine presenting characters still seem to have the advantage.
And when you break it down to see the variation from the average for each villager, that's where you see the feminine presenting characters outperforming most weeks.
I think the data does support the notion that Villager Voters tend to prefer feminine presenting characters.
The End
Does that matter?
In what way
I don't want to assume what you mean in asking that question
'flaccid exclamation point' my new band name
Yeah, I mean I definitely just did this for fun, but the point was that there was a conversation before in palia-chat about whether or not people were favoring female presenting characters in the vote, and there was some disagreement about what the meant and whether it was true. My initial reaction was "Maybe recently with like Tish, but definitely not as a rule" so I decided to test my assumption and check. Plus I do this sort of analysis for political campaigns and it can be a nice brain exercise. But no, I'm not trying to make any statements about it or proclaim any sort of meaning behind it other than that the data does seem to confirm what that person was feeling about the votes.
Ah okay, interesting. Thank you for clearing it up
Mainly there is no end to what I'll do in order to make some graphs
lol, everyone's got their thing
It's kinda interesting because it's not like straight ranked-choice elimination where you pick the one you like the most as a community and once they're gone, next week the next most popular one wins, because they've changed the composition of the group often.
Thank you for these! I love this kinda stuff, analyzing things that many wouldn't bother to.
A thing that came to mind: One reason why people choose female presenting villagers more might be because their silhouettes are more interesting?
i choose female because im a female...
and i like long hair
its an attempt to be in here
and then the next scene "hey its raph!" "yeah a little too raph....." which unfortunately does not have a gif lol
What a shame
They really upped the eye mask sash game in that one
Interesting

your never a true cat person unless you bite your cat back for biting you
Done that...
welcome to the cat club
It started to purr...
LOL
mine looked at me in horror
like....are you trying to eat me human!?
the nommings are coming

so...loki, the series, would I like even though I don't like Thor movies? Thinking on watching it or no
I don't know how to respond to that...
sorry 
I view the entire MCU as a single story, so skipping a movie or show would be like skipping chapters in a book.
then have to watch wandavision too...
Even if some chapters are less enjoyable than others, they are still part of the story and need to be read as well.
I enjoyed Wandavision
Waiting for Blackwidow to be on standard disney plus so I can watch it.
Well if you don't like Thor movies then idk if you'd like Loki unless you actually liked Loki or followed the other movies that have him in it
Did you enjoy the Avengers movies?
But know you might be completely and utterly confused at the events of phase 4 as they roll out.
Basically I recommend you watch any of the MCU movies that Loki is in otherwise you'll be lost
I watched all the movies, but Thor ones...don't like them much, I'm more of ultron fan
Ok if you've seen all the movies, did you like Loki as a character?
That's the really important thing lol
Cause it's all about him and the AU from Endgame time travel
not sure, he is kinda meh, neither like him neither hate him
Then you might might really be invested, I think.
Only bc this was made for the fans who really demanded Loki get his own movie, but we get a series instead
Which is better imo. More time for story telling and world building
Ep one of Loki had me a bit emotional bc I'm invested
I watched falcon and the winter soldier and...it was entertaining
but how much of a sitcom is wandavision? hate sitcoms, can't stand them
Oh I'm definitely not saying it can't be entertaining, but your level of interest and story investment might make you feel meh if you weren't into the Thor movies. This series is pretty based on the fact that the person watching has a lot of interest in the character.
I myself don't care much for Wanda and have so far skipped wandavision
Hell, I haven't even watched a couple MCU movies still
Yeah sitcom would be friends, Frasier, etc
Honestly idk how sitcom it is. Seems based heavily on older ones like Bewitched
that is what i read, that is like a sitcom
im not sure what sitcoms are...read the definition
i like comedy
i think i like sitcoms....if i read definition right
i dont like....those people that talk to each other
Sitcoms were pretty much anything in the 90s like:
Seinfeld, Frasier, king of queens
or mtv...making fun of real life or w/e
chitchat back and forth is boring to me
dont know the label for them
Interviews?
yeah kinda like those
or stand up comedy
idk what they are called....the "real" show
documentaries and the ones they host guest speakers
I like documentaries and true crime.
I don't like stand up comedy or really any late night talk shows
talk shows! thats it!
Ah ok
They call them chat shows here to be fair
Where's "here" ?
Earth one would think.
Mmm yes but different continents
In USA they're on TV as "talk shows" even in the title
If you lot over in the states haven't ever watched Graham Norton, look him up on YouTube.
Its amazing how an interview can turn fun when the guests can drink and not worry about censorship.
Always funny
UK btw
Ok hey i have a question. For those who go places and leave their ID in their cars, especially when you look young and are buying beer. Why?
Why leave the ID anywhere except your wallet
@fallow gazelle did this get answered for you? #💬│palia-discussions message
And why have your wallet anywhere except your pockets
What if you don't have pockets?
Hold it or keep it on you at the very least if youre doing something that may require your ID
I get carded a lot so I always have mine on me
It's really annoying. We have pockets for a reason
I always have pockets and some sort of backpack
Same. It's always on me in case of emergency where my ID may be needed
So it's other people not having their IDs that is bothering you?
negative
this is a very man response
womens clothing is a sad lack of pockets
we get excited when dresses have pockets
its probably why purses were invented too
The sad lack of pockets
can ihave answer to ze/zir
Xe/Xem
🟠 Ze/Zir
They're pronouns for nonbinary or genderless people who don't want to have to force themselves into any of the preconceived notions of other pronouns. Before they/them was popularized, it had a lot more traction, but I don't think it caught on much.
ohhhh
Basically saying "Screw your pronoun choices, I'm not playing your game"
i will be person, thing, and it
When people fail to have their ID ready to use when they have 50 pockets on them that they could use.
Guys gals and nonbinary pals
and children are Its until i can distinguish them
its drooling, it needs a diaper change
my friend was mad at me for calling her child an it
heheh
It wants to borrow the car
We’re all it’s really, carbon based life.. I don’t differentiate between carbon
my friend says i hate them all equally
i dont hate people...i just dont have a preference one way or the other
you do u, i do me
and we will have a happy party
Notably though: trans people or other people who have been heavily marginalized don't like being referred to as "it" for obvious reasons
As a general rule
I'm way too Dad, so I just refer to everyone as "bud"
For children i just call them their biologic pronoun until they are able to be old enough to choose a pronoun that they feel comfortable with. That should never be a parent's job to choose what their child should be labeled as
makes it easier
Hey bud, whatcha gettin' into over there?
I’m way to “too much to remember, I’ll just do my own thing”
I just go....that one person needs you
or "the child" when im feeling generous
The child is hungry
when im slacking i say it
and yet they still like me and asked their mother to make me their godsomething
strange creatures
As for adults they are deemed person.
Its amazing how many turn to look at you when you say "hey person"
I have transcended beyond person and identify as my superiority complex
Yeah me and my personalities find plurals to be acceptable, we do indeed
Purses are one of the worst things.
I hate purses. I carry a small backpack instead, but still hate that.
Like, I have pants with pockets but they don't have ones in front.. Wtf. Only ass pockets
Women with pockets, preposterous
Illegal i say.
We don´t get pants just because we would actually buy purses, it´s all a scam
will be terribly upset if it ever becomes a big thing that there be pockets in things where there was none before
I learned to sew for lots of reasons but mostly so I could make my own front pockets since clearly clothing companies don’t know how to
Buy your trousers in menswear. The measurements are easier to tailor to your proportions anyway. Better than trying to figure out if you're a size whatever in one store and a size something else in another.
I have witnessed the utter chaos that is women's clothing. It's messed up.
Now you just wear momwear
Can I borrow your mom jeans, Dad?
If you borrow them, what am I going to wear to Kohl's?
Well, most definitely your sock garters. I know how much you love them. We can snip the legs off your khakis if you prefer shorts.
I'll just roll them up a bit and you'll be good to go.
AAAAAAUSHDISJSBAUhxxixnsbahUHA
I missed my class on the undead language
It's pretty simple. First number is the waist, second number is the length. Be comfortable and have pockets. Life is better this way.
you mean they have a language? its not just random gurgle glargles from not having a lower jaw properly attached? lol
It's honestly difficult for me. Im very pear shaped, and short. Men's pants seem to not have wide leg, or if they do, the waist is huuuge
Not too many men I know that are barely over the 5ft mark XD
i have the opposite problem with men's pants. legs are wide and the waist too tight.
I have the same issue with women's stuff. I get ones with waists that fit then the leg is large enough I could fit another half leg into them
And most petite pants look like theyre for women 60+
This is why, when I find a pair of jeans that fit well and are comfy, I buy multiple pairs of them. The men's stuff changes with the trends too, and I hate when I'm in the store and it's all skinny jeans and stonewashed garbage with holes pre-ripped.
I just want some boot cut! Why have they shunned me! I feel shunned!
The pants I have now arent jeans, theyre some kind of stretchy stuff. I did buy two pair at that time. Red plaid and black ones
I might just start wearing skirts with shorts underneath so I dont have to worry about fit aside from waist
I've recently rediscovered my love of courderoy but it's too hot for such things right now.
Plus, ill be honest, I hate wearing pants, I dont like shoes either. In summer I wear really short shorts around the house and flip flops (thongs)
My skin basically glows in the dark, so you won't catch me in shorts. I don't want to blind people. I consider trousers a public service.
Nah same here XD Im pasty
Can't tan really, I just burn then it fades
I'm lobster coloured in mere minutes. More so now than ever.
I feel burnt the next day when I've been out in the shade on a sunny day.
It's like I get cooked
I went swimming about er, 4 years ago now, and was only out for an hour and managed to get so red, it hurt sooo bad t.t why the sun hate us?
The sun is my mortal enemy as well, my eyesight is bad enough without that giant ball of fire blinding me
You are amongst friends, dear Rosey.
HAHA yes indeed 😂
I really only know Italians and Greek can tan
We are built for cold and sideways rainstorms.
I'm made for the winter tbh. And I'm pale as the snow we get here. Michigan is one of the states in the us that is somehow able to snow in any season
I said East europe cause yall are east of me, but then I realize
💀
Yeah Im north Missouri and unless you're a farmer, you're pretty damn pale
ah 💀
i’m from Pennsylvania but currently in the process of moving to Florida- i’m too sensitive to the cold and ill literally get the chills in like 75 degree weather it’s fine
i am a walking ice box
I love 75* that is the perfect weather for me
Hilariously, the other side of my family is Italian. My older sister got the olive skin and the ability to tan.
i just like it hot 🤣
I don't think we look related at all lol
Oof, I have 'porcelain' skin tone
Tbh i cant decide if Id rather move to a warmer place with dry weather or a cold place to avoid beingg hot
And my older sister is part Italian (different father), so she can tan as well
You can always put more clothes on. You can only take off so much without getting arrested.
Perfection
I'm immune to sunlight. 🙂
Well i do avoid the sun a bit, my grandad had skin cancer so...
Mine too.
I turn into painful tomato if I spend more than a hour in the sun, and that's not counting grass allergies bullying me
OMG someone else who knows that pain. I honestly love the smell of fresh mown grass but hecc it makes me sneeze
It makes me itchy and messes up my breathing. Thankfully my cat doesn't roll around in the grass because she loves hugs and I love giving them. And I don't need lingering grass on me 😂
Brb I need to go check something
Personal peeve of mine, Ill open the window and it seems like my neighbor decides to mow. And he's the type where his grass has to be like 2inches tall >8|
This is why I always have benadryl at the ready
Morning. ☕
I need to instal new wall papers to my nieces room today. Time to become a cruise ship captain with Jaguar. 😬
I got a Twitter for the first time today.
I still have no need for using that. 😅
Ok.
It's not really a thing here. Nobody I know uses it. 🤷♀️
I can't stand Twitter myself. Only bc I feel it's as toxic as Facebook
I do have Instagram but only follow certain pages and rarely comment on things.
I used to have one but I deleted mine bc I didn't like the drama that kept popping up all the time in my feeds
Yeah that's why I don't do much aside from pictures and liking stuff
Comments sections are always "this isn't good enough for me, cater to meeee" the entitlement is unreal
Yeah I stopped using it as an art platform long ago bc of that too
I joined Tumblr years ago and someone tried shaming me for an art price I did... Cause they didn't like it
Oof, sorry about that
I told them to get off my case and that was about it. Just don't be a bully, how hard is that t.t
People tend to get negative over stuff like this due to jealousy most times. If they can't be happy, you can't be happy, and how dare you have the skills you spent years working on while all I did was just shite on other people and not work at any art skills or anything proactive in general?
Lot of pride, sloth and hate built up in those people. It's just sad to see.
The trick is to keep it lofty. If you stay lighthearted and positive, and never take it too seriously, you'll be okay.
I avoid the whole fighting with people on the internet thing.
Same. Cause it's a waste of time
Can't wait for the political conversations to drone on in the text channels of Palia...
Hopefully they'll have in game chat mods. It makes a huge difference.
Political conversations are usually and sadly not bannable.
I have no patience for people who log into other people's happy escapism place just to whizz in the wind. That's what Facebook is for. Go be mad there.
Yeah but it won't have a place in this game and tbh should be banable at least if it gets personal
There are a few games that don't allow them.because all people do.is argue.
I never get involved in drama and try to avoid any fighting and such when possible but it's like seeing a gang fight outside your home. You have nothing to do with it, but it's just unsettling to just see it happen anyway
Yeah
I used to have a Twitter but deleted it after being attacked over a conversation about the sims 4, decided it ain't worth it
Awe
I had deleted my Tumblr after that one mishap. Not the community I wanted to be in
Over the Sims? Yeesh!
That's great. I used to be a part of a guild once that had a no tolerance rule on real life topics. That included politics. It led to a more amicable and peaceful guild atmosphere.
I swear some people just want to dump their angst on strangers.
I also have a crazy ex that tweets about me 24/7 so that's another reason to not be on Twitter
Ewww
It's usually the pretentious attitudes that get me and the "holier than thou", as if it's ok to invalidate your opinion
And they always cry oppression when no one wants to listen to them rant
Haha I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling that way
It's honestly not hard to not be a bully, and then they wanna be bullies t.t
I can't English ok
Words are hard
I try to English a little every day. But for me that just means being overly polite because I live in England.
My most British moment was when a car nearly hit me in a crosswalk and I gave the driver a rude gesture, then felt guilty about it the rest of the day.
Practice what you preach is a concept some people can't get and that's why I dislike most social media
Lmao
I thought only Canadians were supposed to be polite
They get it from us
: 🤔 I thought they were more french
Only in the French bits
I've a French Canadian friend and it's been fun seeing him get better at English. He says they don't speak it in public there or you get dirty looks
Quebec?
Around there, yeah
I've had a few Canadian friends but they've all lived in different provinces
Love being able to learn about places
I worked with French Canadians once. It's a hard clique to get into if you aren't native.
I won them over eventually!
Yeah he was very quiet at first then eventually opened up. Like .. Months lol
Yes.
Kinda sucks with things like being quiet are taken negatively
Yeah, I was very quiet in school, and people accused me of being snobbish
I was just painfully shy.
sheeesh
spent the entire morning helping my mom with the cleaning
the house is spotless now
I should do some laundry today
I have so much work around the house to get done.
I've accepted my house being a chaotic mess for the next couple years. (Except the kitchen and bathroom)
I've accepted that my house will be a chaotic mess. Including kitchen and bathroom.
Yeah No need to stop this madness.
Every time I try to draw something digital I just get really mad
I get really mad every time I try to draw, at all. Digital or otherwise.
But then I force myself to finish it, and definitely don't start over several times, and it's done 😆
I just don't get along with my drawing tablet
happens a lot
Rarely happened with my old one
Tbh I'm probably gonna sell this. I can't do shit with a tablet I hate.
which tablet are you using?
Huion kamvas pro 13
I think it was 370 euros
It just doesn't feel natural to use. My old wacom felt like an extension of my hand and mind. This one feels like I'm peeling a potato with another potato.
Everything seems a bit off and I use more time fixing things than drawing. Often, like today, I was too frustrated to draw at all cause the cursor was off, then I got a weird lag, then the pressure sensitivity vanished completely.
Usually I'm good with electronic devices, I get how they work. But this one? Nope.
This one I just wanna use as a frisbee.
oh that's really weird
you can use it as a food holder
it might be more useful tbh
Anxiety sucks. Having a bad day for my anxiety. Feel really off. Ugh.... why's my brain gotta be broken
I feel that. Hope you get the chance to relax and rest soon.
Thanks. I'm off work all next week for vacation, hopefully that helps. I've got generalized anxiety disorder and I didn't think I was worrying about things, but I'm pretty much always worrying about something. It builds up and then I end up with panic attacks or just days filled with general dread. Fun times. :(
I just bought new expansion pack for sims.
Neat! I never got into the Sims really. How's the expansion
downloading atm
I haven't dared to even though I want it. The Sims 4 rabbit hole is too deep.
i have been playing sims since sims2 was a thing
Hope your week off serves you well! I'm sure there's plenty of us here who can relate to bad anxiety and such so you're in good company 
I use sims to form my bjd characters. and to play with their lives.. xD And the new environment is perfect for it.
I've been around since the og Sims days. It's an awesome franchise. I hope to get back into it when the Sims 5 inevitably comes out.
What is bjd..??
Yeah i have difficult anxiety too.
ball jointed doll
Oh ok, that's what Google said but wasn't sure haha
Yeah I have been into bjds over 10 years already. It's fun.
i use the sims to create my little anthro characters lol i am so glad its quite literally drag and drop for the mod files
Looking at the Sims, I'd either get into and get waaaay too into it, or I'd get bored haha. If I was looking for another game to pick up I might check it out but I currently have like 5 I'm playing (that I'll definitely finish one day)
I try to drop the ones that cost monthly. So sims it is.
I only play one that costs monthly currently. Then I've got mass effect legendary, the witcher 3 (I still haven't finished it and I bought it at release!), horizon zero dawn (got half way in and got distracted), the list goes on... 😬
Yeah with sims it's totally fine to get distracted.. so it's a good game for me. xD
ive spent literal hours fine tuning the tiny details of a sim. definitely good at distracting
Sims 2 used to be my special interest.
i played so much sims 3 in highschool that i was known as the person to ask anything about the sims.... 😅 total playtime of 330.5 hours on that, only passed by my skyrim playtime which is at 851.9 hours
i played 1-3 alot myself
I have only like 70h with sims4.. But I played before with my friend so I have no idea how much it really would be.
I played 4 as well but ....meh
I have alot of hours in it but it definitely wasnt one of my favorites
Its kinda why I dont know how to feel about sims 5
After they replaced the entire sims team....and reversed back to loading screen days....
Giving less and less stuff in the actual game, over inflating the DLC
I dont really know if I want to do Sims 5... I probably will only play it if someone gets it for bday or christmas present
I wish the packs for Sims 4 would go on sale
I don't want to sink so much money into it
dont bother. They always go on sale
Definitely wait. Most of the stuff they give you is stuff you got free in the previous sims
or just a reskin of items you already have
allot of the dlc for 4 is the same dlc for 3 but with a 10 dollar price increase
for example cats and dogs is just pets at a higher price but without all the extra critters or horses
and vampires got split off into their own seperate equally over priced dlc
tbh i'd go back to 3 if it didnt run so poorly on windows 10
this lady knows her stuff
it works if you put it in compatibility or a good rig
Ive never had problems with Sims 3 myself but i hear alot of ppl do
i'll have to try compatibility then, cause my pc has handled far beefier than sims 3
its not the beefier thats the problem. Its that its poorly optimized.
Unfortunately the team that made it couldnt fix all bugs before being let go
thats just how working for EA is unfortunately
once the money stops, your team is out for good
thats how most companies are
its especially prominent in EA and activision, but ofc all companies are like that to some degree
i get thats just how buisness works but its gotta suck for the people being let go with hardly any time to prepare
Oof. It's hard to get any studying done with kids crawling all over you
I'm not in quarantine. Kids are. 🤷♀️ But maybe I should get tested before going to school.
Always best to be safe
Good morning to all. ☕
Happy timezone, Aunty
Haha I have hard time with deciding what to do today. 😅 Too much fun stuff.
Stay healthy kids🥰
HOI
All fine here.
Survived home from therapy! Now I can eat chocolate and draw for the rest of the day.
Sounds like a good plan. Hope you're doing well.
Everything is fine, I just need to rest and be kind to myself.
Art will be continued therapy!
Hope you can find and get the rest you need 
Art is therapy yes but thankfully in a less tiring way. Thanks 
It can be straining but also very relaxing, I’m sure it’ll do you good! I know therapy sessions can be very draining, giving, but draining, glad you’re feeling energized and creative to do some art 
I've learned to give myself time to rest and accept that it's okay to be tired. My lovely gf got me chocolate and food so I can focus my leftover energy to nice things like art (:
Trying to make my Zeki look less like a goat.
I think the best thing I was told is: “it’s okay to not be okay” and “come back when You feel up to it, doesn’t matter if that’s tomorrow or in 3 years”
So I’ll convey both to you ^^ glad you have such a supportive SO as well
I shall not distract you, enjoy Zeki time :3
Thanks
It's silly how hard it is to be understanding and kind to yourself. I've gotten better at it tho. (:
Really happy to hear, it is indeed very hard and takes a lot of practice!
I started knitting a shirt for my new doll and hahahahahhah this doll is huge.. so the shirt is too..and it feels all wrong.
Finally holliday
Ooh the fun times can start now ^^
Yay!
Smelly and tired. xD But I'll heat the sauna today.
well almost. There is a lot of small apartments that have no sauna, but there usually is one for common use in the apartmentbuilding.
Neat
But where is exactly the tired and smelly part? Did you chop the wood of your own?
Haha, no. We have electric sauna. But I rage cleaned the house.
And yes I'm the monstrous kind of women who is perfectly capable to chop wood. I even have my own axe. 😆
afternoon pog champs
helloo
so wee cleanmonster mode

Yeah..
Hello everybody! I'm new here, can anyone share how to pass the time waiting for the release of Palia?
I would be glad if someone could teach me how to play D&D, or some interesting books with a fantasy world.🍃
gives you tea poor wee
maybe I'll have an iced coffee..
D&D is a bit hard to explain without having physical examples, but I would recommend reading the player’s handbook! It teaches you how to play and gives you examples of one of the preset worlds :)
Also, some books
-The Inheritance Cycle (4 book series)
-Once Stolen
-The Folk of the Air Trilogy
You have kinks for hot Elfs?
Oh, I see. This is my personal snag, the instructions are hard for me to give alone, but I am very much fascinated by the concepts of the D&D world.
Thank you for the advice of the books, the last title especially attracted me
You could also watch a D&D campaign on YouTube, you can learn a lot by watching other people play! there’s lots of online beginner campaigns you could join, too
I have a weakness for horns.
"Funny giggles"
Hohoo! So Dragons and demons.
And Fae
D&D is just a more structured way of playing pretend as children, with actual quantifiable RNG. Other than that it’s not that difficult ^^ but it is indeed a learn while doing thing I’d say
But for reals Throne of Glass series is good and long. So it takes time to read through.
As a child, I loved to play the game of Heroes of Might and Magic 3 with my older brother. And for some reason I love harpies and griffins. I guess I sleep on a feather pillow too often ...
D&D is a more structured way of playing pretend but this time you need actual friends instead of imaginary ones
And rules so that David’s sword doesn’t all of a sudden evolve into a obliteration saber that can cleave time and make him immortal because he didn’t like that you shot him with an arrow
Yeah no OP weapons unless the DM really wants to ruin the life of one party member in particular
Sound like someone is offended during a board game😄
There’s also homebrew, which some DMs allow and some don’t, where you make up your own completely original race/class/background etc., and it’s really fun :D
It can really be a very interesting and fun and exciting adventure, as well as an experience in borrowing with people, but because of the quarantine, it's just hard for me to find people who want to play with such a bad player as me *eheheh *sigh
Well, okay, I think something is burning on the kitchen stove, and I've been hungry for a long time...Thank you guys for talking to me, especially for the books ** winks*.*
It still seems to me that alone, as usual, I will give up everything and learn nothing, and in general, I bought dice for the game in vain...I especially do not understand why a trihedron is needed...
There’s no such thing as a bad player (unless you’re a jerk and never show up for sessions), you should look into beginner campaigns, and all the dice are used don’t lose any like I did
Humm... I want to stuff caramel pork into a pita bread.
oh my god
Would love that
Hahaa! Lets do it!
Don't think I can whip up some caramel pork tonight but you gave me an idé; pulled pork in pita!
Ohhh we still have picklers too. Nom Nom.
Well my caramel pork is kinda like pulled pork. Just with that sticky caramel sauce.
Sounds absolutely smashing! You follow a recipe or go by heart?
Nah no recipes for me.
Just read this, I have a friend who keeps trying to get me to read these!
Nice, I love recipes but the best way to learn is by messing it up and trying again
I'm on my second round with these already.
I'll take that as a "ye, they are good"
Damn, might have to go through them then haha
If youre not into super long series read acotar.
I don't mind long series, I'm currently working my way through The Horus Heresy in 40k. Think there are about 50 books or so?
Never heard of Acotar though
A Court of throrns and Roses.
It's Another Maas series.
It's similar than the throne of glass one. But more focused.
Sent a message to my friend if she had heard of Acotar and she responded with; HAVE I HEARD?! I LOVE THEM 😂
Might not be my style she said but she really enjoyed them
Everyone can enjoy some hot elfs/fae. 🤷♀️
Oh hell yea, Mr. Tall, Dark and Mysterious made me cock an eyebrow for sure! But I'm not very into romance novels 
Well yeah the over coming romance sure is a theme there. But the characters are fun.
Romance is good as long as it’s written well. I don’t like it when romance just magically solves serious issues though, it’s not a cure for all mental health issues + past traumatic experiences
I prefer plots of friendships and brotherhoods over romance plots, but they're all valid.
This
“You murdered my family and put me through emotional abuse for 6 years but we both think the other person is hot so it’s fine”
Ugh. Not this type for me.
Oh an alien invasion? No problem, we have love
~ the power of heart will save us ~
“It’s not that simple”
shhhhhhhh irrelevant
it will all be fiNE
just trust in the magic of friendship and l o v e
I also don’t understand the love at first sight thing, maybe you find someone attractive but why would you dedicate your whole life to tracking down a stranger you saw once
I like the ones where the main characters have issues and get to deal with it at some level and still get to be loved-
But, that’s easy, that’s because they’re the one
Well fated mates makes no sense but it's fun in books.
love is not inherently bad but if it solves all world problems then it just makes no sense contextually!!! however it is fun to see a character learn love and kindness, and empathy etc after issues have been solved, or even as a motivator, n such it's just nice
To be fair though it is nice when you hear of these couples that meet in high school and have now been married for 70 years
True.
I met my husband when we were 15yo. 😅 We have been together more than half of our lives now.
But I agree, that’s a statistical improbability and not everyone gets that
Congratulations ^^
Ahhh that’s so cute
Yeah it's our 10th anniversary in December. In marriage view.
I personally really dislike the idea of soulmates irl but I like them in fiction
I always made the comparison of soulmates to like, a dinnerset? like theres multiple people out there for you that make you feel complete but there is no one perfect thing you need to exist
Having a fork with your plate is nice, but so is having a spoon!
“Perfect” doesn’t exist because it’s an imperfect world and all things have flaws, but something can be damn close
I’m aroace so the idea of being incomplete without a romantic partner really bothers me ;—;
But I agree @solar ridge
I'm also ace!! I think its more of a complementary thing, and less of an incomplete thing!!
I'm so difficult to handle whole that I have no soulmate. Just people who tolerate and who I care enough to be polite with. 😆
No no no, that’s not what it’s about, life is like Palia’s derivative. Great alone, with the possibility of being better with others
Yeee I think they can be but media says otherwise and there’s no representation with it ;—;
ugh
(minus palia, palia can chill we vibe with palia)
You’re the most important person in your life, because you’re the only person you truly can’t live without and the only person that will be in your life from the first to last second. But doesn’t hurt to have some great company along the way
That fits given I feel like my life is in pre alpha- limited access, lots to work out still lol
dang lord berry spittin facts
Deep thingies.
Oh yeah that’s the great part about life, no one knows what the hell is going on 👀
I'm 31. I've accepted things are never gonna make sense. Glad I'm not alone haha
That’s my secret, Cap, I’m always clueless
Yay! 90's club!
who needs to understand things when you can just exist
no thoughts head empty
just vibes
Some things are and just will be, for no reason at all. That was really tough for me to grasp and took a long time of therapy to start to
I’m a control freak, to say the least
Lots of work on it over the years xD
90’s kids
yeah alot in here it seems
,,,,cries in being an infant
then we got these
HHFHJDSFHA
and a few older....
…2000s kids?
I'm 18 its okay
We have all ages in here. Doesn't matter. We get along fine.
The age range in here is vast
2003 babey lets g o
18 was so long ago I feel
I’m a lot younger than most people here, the age range is very cool
The jump from 18 to 22 feels like a decade of knowledge and shift in personality (for me)
i would not doubt there are above and below 90s ppl
Like sometimes I feel like I can still do the stuff I did at 18, but my body says "sit the f down, you old"
Well I was worried over going to school with teens once again. Then my friends kids told me that I'm like a really good friend to them. So no worries anymore, I still got this 💩 .
meh i didnt fit in for school nor this adulting stage
kinda given up on not being weird
Being weird is far better than being boring
Why be normal
cool teachers are the best :D
It is until they start using your name as a reason they are doing something
oh thats just katrina
I’m the lord, it’s happened a lot to me
your doing a katrina thing
Haha I went swimming at midsummers and jumped off the doc just as happily as years ago. Just...a bigger splash.
ok but I'm a new student...
student in college?
student is very vague
Oop I got you mixed up with a different person talking about teaching earlier I think
like.. 2nd stage? What is it in english...
I'll have a Diploma in Business and Administration when I graduate.
Associates?
Good choice ^^ (as a control freak I approve of admin 👀)
next level after primary school.
Junior high?
we don't have that
Easier to ignore terminology and go for years
that would be like lukio.. this is one that leads to diploma.
definitely this
Primary is 7-18 years here. used to be 16.
If it’s a diploma I’m guessing it’s college equivalent
this is what im guessing
You pick what to study rather general education all get, that would be college equivalent
If its her first degree then its Associate
well I'll have a profession after this. Easy enough.
Yeah that’s a good way to put it ^^
You can get a bachelors degree without an associates.
European English terms for schooling is different than American English. It gets a bit complicated.
Congrats on pursing your degree!
Here it’s similar, general education stops at 15/16, you then pick your continued subject, until 18/19, then you can go for eligible jobs or head off to university
(Age that is not years in school)
And I have never needed this info or terms before so no wonder that I made it difficult to understand.
Terms are always a bit wasted since they’re more often than not lost in translation
Oh weird! I feel like in the states people make a huge deal over Highschool Diploma, Associates, Bachelors, etc.
Tbh it just makes higher education more intimidating.
But yeah. This aunty is odd enough to get this through smoothly.
it is
They like their grandeur ;3
Oof yeah.
Oh and good day! Hope everyone is having a good time today.
We hate it... its just another way for places to make more money
Hi fragile ^^ you too, dear
kinda like a .... oh you only have the low end of college
I have no need to make a lot of money. I just want to have a simple life and be happy with my family.
but this person is better because they are higher end and stayed longer
The whole world is an “us and them” society, we categorize everything and everyone. It’s not changing any time soon, and capitalism will continue to thrive off it
Japanese business ethics are super stressful though.
All for one, and one for all
thats more because of their dynasty days
where etiquette was important to higher ups
I don't think so. I imagine it'll improve with time but there's a lot of pressure on business workers there to work long hours and constantly be at work even if they aren't actually working.
That's a whole topic that can probably get too depressing for this chat though.
we call that overtime here
though ours is....if you dont finish this in time, your in trouble and no you cant take overtime to finish it cause i dont want to pay you
Idk if salary workers get overtime pay here in the states. I'm an hourly employee.
Payment deals and ripoffs happen everywhere, just because it’s the law doesn’t mean it’s guarantee
salary ppl usually work on their nonwork days
so true
OMG! I just remembered
I'm not allowed overtime
And yeye work life is stressful the world over.
Uhhh I'll go to sleep now. 🥱 Have fun while chatting!
night
Because it belongs nowhere else, I would like to announce: it is raining.
Grats!
A tier 1 help desk position just opened in my company and my boss is gonna help me apply!!! So hyped, hope I get it!!@
Goodluck~! 
The tech support I am speaking with gave me a compliment. 🙂
Tech supports are the backbone of our civilisation.
My most wholesome but F moment with support was when I was working with someone in an online chat and I asked them how they were doing today.
It must've been rough because they wrote out several sentences just thanking me for even asking because no one ever seems to care.
I worked a call center in the past and weow I know the vibe. Our IT and Customer Service workers deserve some love.
Someones gotta do it. Most of the angy customers I delt with were older. I hope as new generations come we become respectful of all workers. Even those you aren't dealing with face to face (though I know how rough in person can be too).
Teachers and support workers have my utmost respect
Yes.
I guess garbage collectors as well, another backbone to society that gets no credit
But rather get used as a bad example of what not to be xD
It really sucks that “do well in school or you’ll become a garbage man” is such an insult :(
It’s not that terrible of a job, and they’re essential
Pays well too (here)
It does in the US as well
I don't personally know anyone who's that blind to the importance of essential workers, but I do remember hearing that sort of stuff a lot growing up.
I do a lot of interstate driving and give a silent thanks everytime I pass a highway cleanup worker. Those champions pick up your trash and your road kill.
So many groups of workers to pay respects to.
im going to talk in here....its too hard to stay on topic for palia
ppl get upset with random talk
Then i can talk about everything from palia, to mechanics, to referencing other games, to food
Too hard for my brain to stay on just referencing palia all the time
Cause it goes from food in palia to real food
then fishing to fishing mechanics in other games
sky to trees
Ahh i think the tone of the conversation and how far off the rails from Palia it is makes a difference.
I've been in a mood all day so I've been lurking mostly in here so I don't accidentally bring my moody vibes to the positive Palian convos. The villager reveal had me hyped tho.
Some of those tangets are fine imo. Just get back on track when you can~
Meh ive given up
XD
Ahh. Is it chaos rn?
its always chaotic

Which is why i have banned myself from the palia chatroom forever now
Noooooo.
Can you have temp unbans to hype about announcements as they appear!?
i can do the same thing here
True.
Without so much police tape
It is what it is but wbu @patent moat
what kind of fishing mechanic are you hoping for in palia?
It’s a fun place in here too tho 
except very dead alot
I was talking about how i wish the fish mechanic was like Fantasy life
One that is unique but fun. I like the idea of mini games for things like fishing but have seem some pretty bad ones.
I like Stardews minigame, but I don't want to see Palia just copy paste that idea.
mmm, true
Do you like directional queues ?
I loved fantasy life <3 idr the fishing tho. Is been so long.
ummm hold on i had a youtube clip
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except take off the tapping of A since I just realized from someone typing that tapping A can hurt ppl
I just like the directional queue and then maybe a tension bar until snap point?
Nice. Making me nostalgic.
I think Palia aims to be accessible to everyone so I'd be down if they have a few button options.
And yeye the idea of tension and a break point is solid. Reflects irl fishing.
I wonder how far into development stuff like minigames for fishing gets finalized. I'd be down for a mini game trailer.
thats why i was thinking....left,down, up, right.... least amount of button options for ppl
and tension is key for realistic fishing like you said
Yeeeee
plus the arrow keys are very easy to port over to controller or keyboard programing
aswd, the arrows, or just a joystick
or for those ppl that like a challenge their num pad lol
cause apparently there really are ppl who use 2468
People who can use a numpad/ten key to game blow my mind. Am so used to WASD.
i was just about to say it blows my mind! lol
Hah
i am same way though ....asdw for me or controller
the arrows are even weird to me
For the record, I was really happy to chat with you about Fantasy Life, cause so few people know about the game! I just didn't want us to get scolded for being in the wrong channel. ❤️
I would like Fantasy Life for Switch pls. 
no ones really been scolded since no one really is playing the game yet
you can only talk about so much palia when you havent played palia
either way im tired of always getting told to go to other channels, so ill stay in this one
The mods will step in if things get overly chaotic off topic. Every time I've seen that happen the convo has been leaning negative tho. Like arguments forming.
It's just a better safe than sorry thing to try and keep on track imo.
yeah i only thought it was negative
but i know im not one to stay on track so its seriously excruciating
This is a better place for one as me
Perfectly fine to jump around topics ^^
I've mostly see them when people chatter about other games for more than a few posts.
shrugs
Yeah mods tend to intervene when it’s off topic for to long or when other games are mentioned
At least they're nice about it.
plus i can use my emotes i made in here!
Or like mentioned when things start to get argumentative
Yeaaaah we used to have other emotes and gifs in the other channel
like WHY emote!?
Buuuuuuuut we lost that privilege


“The event” and trolls made us lose emotes.. I guess that forced me to make palia specific ones
Gifs was a clear choice I feel in a crowded space
The cat said while using emotes
most my emotes are made from a mash of things
i didnt draw any
the why is my character i created on my Xbox account
the heart and cat is from the cat from the world and a heart picture that i elongated and recolored pink
if i had to do a complete emote from scratch it would be a stick figure and palm tree
i can also do a single bridge
though i did make stubby, which is a scary looking cat with short legs tossing a world up in air
Lol imma start trying to make emotes soon~ it sounds fun but we'll see.
And 👀 stubby.
Prolly.
You got all the support and expertise you could ask for if you want it
UwU thank you. If I need critique I'll come here.
All the Art people and everyone in #🎨│old-palia-fan-art and in this whole server in general are very helpful and wholesome ^^ but you knew that already
Is cute~
its scary lol which is why i didnt choose it as one of my twitch emotes
ppl mostly subscribe for emotes
2ndary is if they like a person
or at least most of my friends told me they subscribe to someone because of their emotes
Ahh lol wonder if that's common.
idk...i just know stubby didnt make the cut...
F for Stubby.
i have to say ive never used that one in my life
🙉
i use this one if im not listening
🙅♀️
both of these
is anyone else looking forward to sunny side as well as palia
if both comes out at same time... im definately not getting sleep switch back and forth between both
Yes, but I haven't been following it super close.
tbh i havent followed either super close
hate getting my hopes up
The more vague i know about the game. The better it is for me
that way i can enjoy the game for what it is and how it was made and not on what i was hoping it would be
Thats why i stream alot of Niche games no ones heard about
even if they are bad lol
Ahhh. I've been playing Lemon Cake recently. Is cute.
I played Calico in my free time when it first dropped. Was fun but felt super unfinished.
my thoughts too
im glad i bought it super cheap on sale
Smart.
Hah really?
yeah i dont know why....
maybe because their faces were really square or didnt match the bodies
Ahh. I loved the concept art. The ingame models felt like they could use some polish still.
I feel like Calico dropped as a regular launch but should've been early access. I hope they update it in the future.
or that they had hardly any necks
i agree with this
even the buildings and ground had way too little texture
Yeah.
it was base color walls, square, and the grass was green
Although if i think in terms of animal crossing
Mhmn. Was a cool game concept though. Maybe someday it will get the polish it deserves.
i loved the absolute doll like carrying of animals
where they just went all slack
Lol yeah. Was cute.
it was so extreme
though animal crossing changed their grass and i didnt notice so lol
One of my cats just kinda chills if he's picked up under the arms like that. Only for a bit tho. I think it hurts him after a few seconds.
Ahh yeah ACNHs grass changes gradually with the seasons. Unless you mean from early dev to release.
Ahh. Yeah same lol. Is just one of those details that don't matter but at the same time add something for those who notice.
ragdolls tend to do it most
Loke is a big boi orange tabby. He's just chill.
im in bad habit of noticing it at first then forgetting how bad it is
orange tabbies, tuxedos and ragdolls seem to be really chill
or at least all the ones ive seen and had have....friends included
Ahh. Yeah there's definantly common patterns for cat behavior but there will always be outliers.
An old family cat who was also a big orange boi was super hostile to strangers.
probably treated wrong at some point
i know my cat changed when he got in fight with neighbor cat
and one of my cats suckles on blanket since it was abandoned too young
she doesnt do it much anymore but still does it randomly when kneading blankets to lie down
shes also crazy evil shrug
D: he was baby when we got him.
I've seen all sorts too. My husband's folks always had a bunch of barn cats (and in turn strays that wander in) when we were in highschool.
Kneading is super common I think.
Yeah. And lol for cat identity crisis.
I gotta get going. Have an epic 40 minute drive home to endure.
Was good chatting~
no problem, thanks for keeping me company~
I like the pink flower thats in front of this chatroom
🌺
interesting....different look
the question of the day....mini ravioli or actually make food
frozen dumplings.... hmmm
faster I get food....the faster i can game
make food
that requires effort and stuff
well i have been eating bad....ramen, mini ravioli, bacon and steak wrap
frozen pizza....
Meatloaf and mashed potatoes~!
easiest thing to make
u just mash things together for both
making food requires effort. instead order out and pay an extra 12$ for delivery
Good morning. ☕
Good morning. 🙂
I have all three types.
pokemon evolutions look different here
dumplings > anything else
@slate cave yeah there’s a couple in there ^^
:D
Just not what most experience

better than me ive got too many emotions in me
i'll apologise to anything
and i feel awful when something bad happens to any fictional character
and dont get me started on secondhand embarrassment
My problem with shows and movies is they all follow the same pattern so they become very obvious xD
But I can’t watch embarrassing things for another reason in shows, it’s so forced and easily solved. So it’s my impatience that bugs me not second hand embarrassment
Since I don’t get the emotional investment it’s just a problem to be solved and without emotion, all problems are easy
Second hand embarrassment in movies can bother me to the point that I want to stop watching. Cringing to the max. Curling toes and fingers, all of that
yeah im wayyyy too emotional
even with nothing prompting me i'll randomly get sad (that's either hyperempathy or depression most of the time)
I just sit there sighing at them not moving on already
^ which is me in most scenarios when emotion is involved
Hahah. Polar opposites I see.
Yeah Rin thinks he has to much emotion and I have nearly non xD
ow ow ow im practising a song for a cover im gonna do and boy howdy my head hurts from singing too much
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Look
이것 봐
One by one
한 장 한 장
The pages remind me you'll always be a villain
넘기는 책장마다 넌 언제까지나 악역으로 남을 거라고 상기시키네
For you, angels have fallen
너를 위해, 천사들이 하늘에서 떨어졌어
Now they're gone
이젠 사라지고 말았네
See? Now they're gone
보여? 이젠 어디에도 없어
Forever gon...
its so fastttt
You got this!
I feel things very deeply but I have troubles with showing and naming them. With people I'm often kinda cold, except for the very few I care about.
When someone is very upset I just stare a wall confused but I cry at art galleries.
I give upset people a “there there” and expect them to be okay after
idk how to deal with upset people cause im usually the upset one
Idk how to deal with it either because they’re not being reasonable or logical most of the time
Yeah I often just give people logical reasons why they feel bad but not everyone takes it well. I just think that logical thinking solves things, emotional reactions just makes things messier.
Somehow saying: “it won’t help to be upset so you don’t have to be” doesn’t work
This I very much agree with :3
Someone gets me, yay 
i cant be logical during those times :(
theres a half of me that understands and wants to think rationally but the other half is yelling CRY CRY CRYYY
I'm often logical even when I get upset. I tell myself why my feelings are not useful in the situation and why they are "wrong".
My ex was crying about missing her family since moving out, I told her she could just call them
yike
It’s a perfectly logical solution to her problem, but apparently she wanted sympathy not a solution
And that’s where I can’t help xD
Yeah, I give solutions or explanations.
I am great at offering perspective
I'm often the opposite where I know I'm supposed to be sad but I only end up apathetic
I get angry sure, but I'm apathetic way too much
Logic and Jules is all I have to go on, this whole emotion thing doesn’t make sense to me
When someone is really upset and I feel like they're in a mindset where logical thinking won't work I just make food for them.
Caffeine is my thing, can't smoke with my shit lungs 
I just tell them to talk to me when they’re ready to talk xD
Yea that too 
You’re invited to my dinner parties Polar
My stupid brain doesn't go to caffeine or smoking, it thinks that I can solve everything with not eating.
Caffeine is my go to because Night Shift does a number to you if you can't fall asleep.
damned kids downstairs
I like caffeine cause it speeds up my thought process :3
speaking of sleep
I think I'd be good with night shifts if working was an option for me.
What is “sleep”?
exactly
I woke up bit before noon
its 8:30am for me and I've been awake since yesterday at 3pm
do I just go another shift no sleep, down some extra caffeine and sleep in the morning tomorrow and get back on afternoons awake or try to sleep now
Try to sleep
I mean personally.. I know what I’d pick
If only sleep actually came to me. I can spend 2hrs laying in bed trying, but next fall asleep
My choice is always to not sleep, but I’m speshul
I do atleast rest, but sleep never comes
the paradox if trying to sleep, although maybe its the heat being an issue. Usually I try to sleep with 3 blankets but its too hot for that because I'm essentially in an attic
weight helps me sleep
I’ve heard “if you’re putting in effort to sleep you’re doing it wrong”
But just laying there doesn’t work xD
I have a weighted blanket, can't use it in this heat tho
Eyelids will not stay closed 👀
Yeah can’t use my weighted one either
I miss winter for being indoors and summer for being outside xD if only we could invent something that could adjust the temperature in my room
What a marvel of engineering it would be
To have a device that could adjust indoor temperature
THAT WORKED
We do but they only work one way. Rn the wrong way.
“Air conditioning” how about you condition it a little harder
whip noises
Be colder!
bruh if only fans or AC worked, but its so humid where i am it makes little difference
That’s what I meant, if only they Worked as advertised xD I mean I’m in electromechanical engineering and energy technology so I know WHY but it’s still ugh
Ughhh
So, I made a little villager card generator. https://villagercard-uep3l.ondigitalocean.app
An UNOFFICIAL generator to create your own villager cards.
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I've got an interview for the help desk job after my vacation!!! 🥳
Congrats! Hope it goes well~
WOOOOO CONGRATS
Thank you! 😊
Thanks very much.:)
We were made to go back to the office in June even though my manager was cool with us staying remote. Thank you corporate overlords.
Managers are still needed since they're a middle man between a team of regular workers and upper management. Mine is still needed at least even in a remote scenario.
Moving this convo from the Palia chat cause hoowee can I tangent on the topic.
Ugh, completely unrelated but I just got my textbook list and it’s so expensive 
That’s annoying 😞. Working from home is really nice
I remember being a student. Text books always hurt. Especially when some teaches had us open them only once and then never looked back at the.
It is. And in the current era most computer based jobs have no real reason to not allow the option.
Yeah. That's about it here. But also our "group" of departments actually saw WORSE attendance while people were working at home. ... .. .HOW
In office project-based work, there's a lot of people in those management roles who have task-management/business process/agile/whatever experience and are good in those roles. Plus, business analysts and project managers do a lot of the paperwork and overhead that would otherwise keep me from concentrating on my work.
But too many managers is where you run into a problem
Booo. My team was super responsible luckily which is why my manager is okay with the idea.
Our corporate sup wants us face to face for communication reasons. But we communicated fine online.
Work from home isnt for everyone though. I get that.
We have to go back to the office next week
We've been fully remote since last August though most of us were remote last march
i do most of my work at home before all the lock-downs started. But still we had a fair bit of reduction in work load, due to a lot of our sub-contractor where hit hard.
I wish you the best in transitioning back.
We went remote last March. It was a nice long time to get used to it.
It's going to be an adjustment. I've gotten used to my pjs lol
Yeah it’s tough to switch back that abruptly 
I didn't like working at home at first, but once I got settled in I was happy with it.
They are saying we will still have 2 days from home per week but I don't think they are going to keep that policy long term
Ah well, if I manage to make the move to the help desk team I'll be in the office full time anyway so I may as well get used to it haha
Ahh yeye, I work graphic design in advertising and many people didn't have the funds to advert their businesses during lockdown so we went from getting ready to double our team size to no longer hiring as people leave.
Hope things start going well for your group again if it hasn't yet.
I know a BIG part of the "WE MUST BE IN THE OFFICE" isn't actually based on stats, or even "face to face", but "We're paying for this office space, so we MUST use it." and some degree of power tripping.
Oh yeah. Our building cost the company a whole pile of money, they definitely want to get their dollars worth
Power tripping indeed. It's nice to vent on the topic and find other people who relate.
Maybe someday even help desk can be remote. Is still solid you're pursuing the new position.
There’s a counter to that, the opposite, where it isn’t power tripping but managers who feel out of control if they can’t see what you’re doing. They feel powerless and don’t know how to operate that way.
I'm very excited about the opportunity. And worst case, I don't get it, but I'll still have this job because it's all within the same company.
From what i have heard from others is that the "Work from Home" has pointed out a fair few problems and inefficiencies within there system procedures.
It also highlighted those who are brownnosing/poor workers.
If I can be a top performer and still have downtime what's it matter lol.
My manager openly has ocd and minor control issues and had such a hard time at first.
He adapted about 6 months in, but it was still hard for him when we were rr busy.
But yeah, we COULD have actually shifted to perma-remote work... But the people calling in all the time ruined it for everyone.
Since my team didn't have much issue I didn't even think about this.
But yeah, the poor workers in the office probably had it bad with the distractions of being at home.
Oof. We have a problem person on our team too that I think forced us full time agents to have to come in
It's so cool to hear the different perspectives. We had the opposite problem and now were all rushing to use our PTO before the end of the fiscal year (use it or lose it). I have a week long staycation next week cause of it.
Yeah, I mean I feel for them, but a good leader has some level of trust in the people they are working with
Oh, I misread - I see you said OCD, which isn’t something you can just “get over” - so I’m impressed that they’re working through the issue
I love my manager. She's fantastic. Her boss above her can be a pain at times but she's awesome
Our company actually doubled our carryover PTO because of covid! lol
No worries. He's a great manager none the less.
We finally get to do carryover because of covid lol. Didn't have it before
I'm happy some people are getting that! It would be so helpful here.
So ready for vacation. We leave tomorrow!!
I’m still getting my first taste of the real working world so it’s interesting to read all of this lol
Ooo have fun!!
My place would be a nightmare for him.
We build Geo-surveillance equipment/vehicles for remote locations.
We basically end up having about 50 crates of components that have to be put together.
But some time a Sub-contractor will be late so you may not have all the bit when you start building it. lol
Ahh yeye. It'll be neat to see how the remote work boom changes things for new graduates and young workers over the next few years.
Mhm. Right now I’m just working an internship, and my brother in law is my boss so it’s a nice way to transition over
Oof. Yeah. We have deadlines and irresponsible sales reps to work with. Every industry has its stressors. Some more than others though.
Oh nice!
You know what does stink? I kinda want to find a new, better paying job(I'm paid ok, but I want moar!)... But I cannot until I can get my SSN updated. Becoming a US Citizen means I can't use my SSN for things until my status is manually updated.
I hope that gets sorted asap for you! I've never had to deal with issues like that, but it sounds so intimidating.
Also hope you find a solid job asap after it gets sorted.


