#💬│palia-discussions
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this channel needs a voice chat channel
Hopefully in that case it'll be optional ❤️ I kinda wish for it being quite a lot of ways to express yourself
Probably too hard to operate and keep 'safe'.
Good morning btw
I thought I read proximity voice chat with friends in the gdoc
Good morning all
If one is added it will be for those who gain access to prealpha
Good morning
i want to be able to have a wolf pet
Welcome friends ☺️
Guten morgen, I need to sleep soon but I don't wanna
Hi friends! ❤️
Friend ☺️
o/
Alright lovelies, it's 4am, time for some kind of sleep lol have a good night or day and stay good to each other <3
\o/
@celest maple good morning morgon today is march 15 2032
Thank you!! c: i read through, I think imma be a cook
Looking back through it I can't seem to find it so I guess I was wrong
Hello all
Hewwody
Hello 😄
''Parties make certain things easier but you can still play most of the game just hanging out on voice'' was all i could find
There's been a lot of talk about it in various channels, but as far as I'm aware it's never been a confirmed feature, but a possibility if it's highly requested
Ok really goodnight now o/
Ok I found where I read that, in the other gdoc from articles "They're planning to have proximity voice chat, but only for people you've designated as friends"
goonai pastel 
Goodnight, sleep tight!
Goodbye friend
so if were not friends we cant communicate 🤨
probably chatting
lool
there's always texting :v
Yeah I'd assume text chat still
Ok, I'm gonna go put on an audiobook and try to sleep. Goodnight all, have fun, see you soon o/
Goodnight, have fun! ☺️
goodnight!
Hello all 🤗
Hello ☺️
Just have been chatting with friends here. It's calmed down quite a bit though🥺
Because of slow mode perhaps
Nah, people have just been going to sleep. I mean there were a lot more people an hour ago 😄
Heya folks, how's everyone?
Im waiting for the alpha to start, this game looks great!!
Clearly need more Europeans (hi!)
Good how are you?!
And Americans are asleep, now we can post about free healthcare
real gamers never sleep.
Is there any type of gameplay video on yt or anything??
Caw
Its been more than 10 minutes already, where's my alpha key /j
for the game
Hullo 😄
I LOVE YOUR PFP ITS SUCH A GOOD BUN!!!
bunny bunny bun bun~ beautiful lil hoppy baby c:
Get in line 😂
Americans are asleep? What kind of self dignified gaming american goes to sleep at 1:00
Haha thanks, I like it too, and when I talk in a vocal chat, he eats
@patent adder Pretty swell myself, just woke up and doing some games. :-)
also am american but plz post about free healthcare, I wanna join y'all-
AMAZING!!! absolutely perfect in every way, I love the hims, what a good and cute little hoppy baby
If you are in bed before the sun starts rising, you are not a real gamer.
I don't get off work till the sun starts rising ☺️
It's currently 4:00 AM for Eastern Standard Time.
If you have a bed, you are not a real gamer. Even better, if you have a house you're not a real gamer
I'm depressed and sleep helps keep the bad thoughts away
Like doctors and apples ?
When ever i'm depressed, I just pick up a game. Although I admit the options the gaming industry has been giving us lately is in of itself depressing.
Similarly yes, but unlike apples where one a day keeps the doctors away, sleep is a more active spell that loses potency once it ends
What someone needs to do is learn how to control our dreams. That way we can just buy videos games that we can play in our sleep. All deep dive VR style.
I see, hope it get better soon
also plz don't worry about me y'all my issues are chronic and clinical, but I'm getting help for it c:
If you sleep for 24h a day, one a day still work
Oh! Lucid dreaming
What I do is I play my MMORPGs with dual monitors, so I can watch a podcast or videos on the side. Less bad times!
well somewhat, but Lucid dreams deals with us controlling our own dreams. This would be someone else controlling them, with us being able to control ourselves within the dream
Sounds like FullDive.
Oooh.
And if you can insert dreams in your minds, like with an electronic device, you have a SAO timeline (Oh no)
Hey! just wanted to let you know that the game palia made it to a really big gaming magazin in germany! ♥ https://www.giga.de/news/stardew-valley-als-mmo-spieler-freuen-sich-auf-neues-game/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Noice, thanks for the info
As long as I can get to see my friends and my lovey, I don't mind being trapped in an MMO lol
You can't have dual monitor setups within a virtual reality setup. -1.
being trapped in an mmo? Would I mind it? NOPE, that is the dream.
Yes you can, you can have them float around you :0
i am pretty sure this has been asked already. will the game have a multiplayer to play with friends in one world?
Wait before you need to collect a hammer for a Smithman 20 times the same day
Yeah it will be!
Also welcome☺️
But then you lose your line of sight!
Repetitive and easy tasks actually benefit me greatly so long as I also have rapid changing stuff to do as well c:
Well repetitive and easy task can not always benefits other, I remember that someone named Spyro tried to work in a subway, and since it was repetitive and easy, he started to cry. Search "Spyro subway" on Google for more info
i desperately hope this game doesn't have a bunch of catchup mechanics and such. I remember when spending time in a game felt rewarding, now days most games have so many catch up mechanics that spending more time in a game then others means nothing. Which means your time spent in the game means nothing.
Hehehe 🍞 😋
All I got was sone altered screenshots from one of the games :0 I don't see what you mean
Oh yea, thats a point.
I'd say that repetition can be a problem, but it can also benefit a game in some ways. Like if you had no reason to visit your home every day in a video game, why would you want a player home?
Good take
I like the catch-up mechanics bc if I join a game late, it lets me get to a level where I can play with older vets and not be useless ^^'
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although, I've never had a consistent party in an MMO because most people I know irl won't play with me ^^' even people who try to end up falling off later
oh
sorry, I'm absolutely abysmal at social cues
that might be true, but the end result is you end up trivilizing those vets time. What's the point of all that effort and time if someone can just come in and catch up without doing all the effort and time you spent.
I'm so looking forward for that E-Mail that gives access to the pre-alpha 🤣
Hide the thumbnail like this:
<https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ>
That way people can't tell it's a rickroll!
370 messages since 12:45 am... 45 minutes, middle of the night for my country, and 370 messages, lol
Yeah I did it earlier, I forgot x)
You blew it! You had 1 e-job! And you blew it!
On this server or in private ?
I don't think that's necessarily true tho :c I don't understand why helping others get to your level earlier and being equal, even if they put in less effort, somehow diminishes what you've done.. Your experience and knowledge still shows that you've put effort into the thing, that you've cared and cultivated your skill. Having someone new come join the fun shouldn't be something that makes you feel less, I think ^^'
here, in this chatroom, lol
its 10:33 here in germany xD
Same in France, neighboor
^^' am sorry, I don't really think I have a right to talk. I've never actually played an MMO from day one and the only thing I have gotten to a high level in of my own power has been Genshin
mmm just another night of going to sleep around 4:30 AM 😭💀
Genshin is the reason for my being up so late. I was doing the 9 pillars of peace :/
that's my normal night, name sibling!
So my opinion is definitely not nearly as important~. I just like being able to stand on equal footing with people who genuinely want to play ^^
Oh geez, that one took me forever
I treasure my sleep so it’s a complicated situation
I mean my team is keqing, Bennett, eula, and zhongli... wasn’t too bad LOL
Jealous!! I want Keqing xc
Don't want to go to sleep, then don't want to wake up. Yep
Yes precisely
Genshin is a bane on genre, If that terrible monetization starts creeping up everywhere else I'll probably be done with online games. The amount of money you have to spend if you desire to do proper content in that game such as dungeons is ridicules. costed something like 20,000 a month just for the max amount of action refills so you can do dungeons.
I somehow got c1 keqing and I don’t remember when
Anyways, sorry Beans. I didn't mean to offend or even anything
no offense taken, its a civil disagreement on design philosophies in regards to catch up mechanics. Both sides have valid points.
Genshin is a pretty standard gatcha mmo tho? Those types of games are super common and popular in Eastern Asia. I've met people who are F2P on Genshin and waaaay better than me :0
The thing about MMOs is that people sort've get locked into a single mindset on what it means to be an MMO. Some people think that it's about a leveling experience or the gear. Personally, I think an MMO is about being a Massively Multiplayer Online game. That's just me, though.
Yeah but seriously, If you want to play more then 15 mins a day in that game without it being just picking flowers you have to pump so much money in just so you can play the dungeons
game is grossly predatory
And the resin system isn't really all that bad either, since early game gives you lots of stuff to do and the ability to do it. Events are why people keep coming back, and with story stuff per update, that's really the point
China and Korea tend to have a philosophy of limiting game times because they value having patience and control. Hence why a lot of KMMOs have a stamina system, moreso the f2p ones
And that is just the resin system, lets not get into what it costs if you decide you want to fully upgrade a certain 5 star character
hello everyone hope you are doing well. who's up for Ubisoft forward on 12th..
I agree genshin definitely requires patience
The constellations aren't exactly necessary, just kinda bonuses tbh, and again, I've seen f2p players with better stuff than me bc they're patient how they play and spend their in game stuff
It's not patience or self control if you have somebody telling you when you can't play.
I managed to get to AR44 and will be forcing myself to wait a long time before upgrading my world to level 6 so I can catch my characters up first level wise
But it is patience and self control when you have the option to but choose not to spend money on it. Its just a difference in cultural philosophy
i need help chat, what similar game will keep me busy until this comes out? is it worth me buying a nintendo switch and animal crossing again?
Game is cute and has it's charm, but for me to ever consider playing Genshin again they would need to either get rid of the Resin system, or change the way you unlock character upgrades. One or the other is reasonable, but both is disgusting and greedy
I recommend playing story of seasons: pioneers of Olive town and Pokémon sword or shield for the switch
Keeps you busy LOL
are there any pc alternatives ?
Stardew valley
I gotta get stardew valley on my pc so I can use mods I only have it on the switch
the off putting thing of stardew is the graphics, too retro for me
Been playing Hokko Life recently, fairly decent very buggy. Look forward to seeing if it lives up to it's potential in a few years.
The resin system was changed to be better, because they do need to limit the play time because Korea, which is a huge market to lose out on. And they've even being doing better about the resin system in terms of events, how much things cost, etc.
I haven't played stardew in a minute
I personally really really love Genshin, I find it fun, and it's a challenge on me as a person because it's not grindy in the traditional sense, but still requires patience and an understanding of the systems it has. It definitely has it's flaws, but I don't think calling it a stain on the genre is fair at all when you look at the genre it is
Its a gatcha game first, and an MMO second. And it's one of the more fair and fun gatcha games out there. Sure, the banner system peeves a lot of people off, but a lot of people find it fun!
Good morning everyone !
Yeah, there really isn't much you can do to convince me any game with those motenization practices is anything but bad for the consumers. Defend it all you like we'll never see eye to eye on this. I Loathe that system to a point where it's a trigger and soap box for me. I would like to see that type of system banned from the industry
🤔 this sounds like an #🎮│other-games conversation.
Genshin isn't really game-as-a-service model tho. you can play 100% f2p and still be just as good as players who whale to get everything.
Oh, sorry ^^' I'll just shush haha
yeah let's discuss palia and everything we don't know about it.
I'm in the minority here about it and I just seem to be causing more issues than anything else ^^' good excuse to go sleep
no this is good! but i encourage you folks to take it over there.
Everything we want to know about it
Sorry for the bother! Goodnight everyone~
Like, what will our characters know when they step out of creation to the tutorial
no bother, It's just something i take a agressive stance with
hope I can play soon 🙂
do we come from somewhere else? Are we the same people that vanished thousands of years ago, are we fully formed like aphrodite from the sea foam....
Looking at the art style, I will guess we are Isekai'd from wild star.
all are valid choices, but I can't make a backstory until I know where I came from
not even details, just a really basic 'you remember....'
hello guys, are you now playing palia?
or 'you don't remember anything'
if we was, we couldn't say.
Some games have stories where a group of people need to escape an apocalypse through another dimension or hide within a shelter.
pretty sure anyone playing now is likely under nda
Alpha starts Soon *tm
unless any of us here are in the dev team, we are definitely not playing Palia right now.
Morning all
does anyone can sign up for the pre-alpha?
yes.
yup
yes, anyone can sign up for it
and wait for the email right? so before we can have access?
because we will be subject to an NDA wouldn't that mean there is likely an age requirement to be in the testing ?
@undone harbor https://palia.com/
correct
Yes check your normal and junk
But the devs will announce when ready
oh, so I need to wait a few days -__
It's more than a few.
probably a couple of weeks.
yep, just like all of us
Or months.
Yes I think it's 13+ like discord requirements
I'm on the website, but nothing happens when I press the button.
MMORPGs are really big projects.
You aren't guaranteed an email.
anyway how about the installer? how can I get that?
You can't yet
Morning ^^
Only 13? you can be that young and legally be bound by a contract?
Morning bean
Right now someone is putting 50,000 alpha sign up emails on a spreadsheet and sorting them. Going through and deleting the duplicates, then matching them up with the survey answers to get their first group to randomly choose from
Pretty sure you wont get anything until they select the users for the pre alpha, not everyone will be selected
You'll have to wait to get into the pre-alpha to be able to download the launcher.
Atleast for alpha. Some games treat beta as some free sample demo. I can't say if this game is going to be like those games, though.
alright, hope there is a chance to pick me. with a handsome like me
Some are different the last game I beta test for Equestrian The Game, our youngest tester was 15
Isn't this a pre-alpha? I know it'll be under NDA, my fingers are still crossed.
Devs have said that they are old school, alpha is alpha, beta is beta, early access is early access,
alright, wish me luck and thanks for the info mates. have a good day
Hi guys, where can i find Palia desktop wallpaper?
❤️
check the community art?
yes, this is pre alpha
I remember someone saying theres stuff in the official art channel
That's some old-old-school by now. I remember GW2 doing the beta=demo model when it first came out.
You want to try #🌠│official-art
ah, I wager in those cases they get a parents signature or something. But 15 might be old enough for contracts. I know nothing about law so don't really know what age you can be in a binding contract.
I cannot register for the pre-alpha
Will the game be released on its platform/installer or will it be on steam?
I think it was aimed to be standalone?
try reloading it a couple of times, some other people had the same problem and were eventually able to get in to register
I don't think it's been confirmed, but I would assume it's own installer
love u
thanks 
I would guess stand alone so they get a lot more off of it, can't blame them avoiding steam/epics cuts.
^
wonder if we have hit 75k people signed up for this discord
Yes.
Same! All I knew at the time if the player did get an invite to the discord server and an email about the beta through test flight, if the devs found that the player was under 13. that they would be removed, even if they just started playing the game
it'll go b eyond 75k too..
The game looks super promising
yeah, soon, I don't think the devs really understood the desire for the type of game they are making
I am not surprised. The game looks really awesome.
From what I have heard, there were 3k in this server before they released the trailer and publicity
game looks nice, i'm just here to learn more about it for right now. Really don't want to hype when all I know is from a small trailer which I can't even recall if it had any sort of commentary to it
500k is what I'm told is the max
U can't have more than 100k without discord partnership
technically any age "can" sign an NDA
i think after a certain amount, servers owners need to contact discord to get put onto a larger server
We recommend reading the FAQ, then the sticky in this channel with 'ask the team' answers, then watch the trailer again and then come back here to mindlessly speculate with the rest of us
Ye
minors can sign contracts but those aren’t necessarily enforceable
hello bubbles
Yo
It's enforceable if they get caught, but they probably will not be unless we need to send them our State issued IDs.
no pvp is all i need to know to be hyped though. So sick of the over saturation of pvp building games
no? minors can't be held to binding contracts
actually minors can void an NDA if they choose afaik
because contracts signed by minors aren’t enforceable
only adults allowed to play then
it's still legal for a minor to sign one though lol
Well teens but yeah
adults can sign for a minor, then it's binding
it's a little weird
I mean, if they knew beforehand, they could just deny access to an account and a client, but we know that they can't check age that well.
it is definitely legal for a minor to sign, and if an adult signs as co-sign then you have to prove it was in the minor’s best interest… it gets complicated
Do people actually care if a minor plays this type of game? So confused lol
So many minors play far worse games
it’s better to not expect minors to adhere to NDAs
not really. just more about the nda
oh of course they could not offer a minor, or anyone, a NDA yeah
from a legal standpoint lol
without a doubt, it's hard to control where content ends up.
Hmm/:
someone was just asking about NDAs and I was just pointing out technically children can sign them it just.. doesn't really mean anything lol
Just wait for them to turn 18 😈
Some companies take it seriously others just don't mind lol
🤔
😭🤣 sexy 18
Spawn camp their permanent record with a break of an NDA when they were 14
if a minor signs before they turn 18, generally the contract matures on their 18th birthday and becomes binding
that is terrible
but yeh, before that, you’re just hoping they honour their signature bc they don’t really have to
Does this mean, that Einar is her hubby/BF?
#🐦│social-feed message
Yeah honestly, just follow NDA, it's pre-alpha. Chances are things are gonna end up being rough-er. Just give feedback directly to the devs and let the devs improve it without ruining it's image for some.
i am not a minor nor would i violate an NDA, just explaining how contracts work for kids 😅
yeah, would need to be pretty immature to break an NDA.
What many games do is they watermark your game client, so that they can tell who you are if you violate NDA.
The kids wouldn´t even understand what NDA is in the first place.
Jina's?
and kids wouldn't even play these kind of games lol
no, different robot
mine craft wants to say hello
Good afternoon ❤️
I mean... nobody specified who is the robot in question... and so far we only saw Einar.
also you can't romance Einar, don't know if that's a universal robots can't romance or not tho
this is way different than minecraft tho
they did
you build, you socialize, i mean some of the basics are there.
Did they actually say that? Last time I heard someone asking about that - the devs said that we needed to find out ourselves.
the last tweet
I am back friends ☺️
yes, they did
I wouldn't call minecraft a social game either
Backstreets back ALRIGHT!
In most cases and dependant on the country for an NDA to be legally binding for a minor it has to be legitimised by their guardian. Otherwise yes it can be voided at whim by the minor unless as stated they become of age and then the contract may not be voided.
Also good morning Paliens :)
Yeeeah.. Im not on twitter so thats quite possible... would you mind pulling out the tweet here?
😨
it's in that channel you linked, sec
How many have you witnessed play that game. All I ever see is my kids socializing when they play minecraft
I´ll take a look later. Now I have a graduation exam to attend 😅
Good morning!
morning~
Depends on what type of game you’re playing in minecraft
oh gl!
hey guys, there was a google doc of answered questions that was pinned somewhere but I can’t seem to find it anymore, can someone link me to it if it still exists
it's pinned in here
mhm
omg ty, I was looking for it in the ask the team channel lol
Here @loud umbra
oh didnt even know there was a faq like that. when ppl said faq i thought they meant the discord channel
so much info to digest now
tysm, excited to read it
Minecraft is a majorly social game. it can be played SP but trust me that is not what people, kids included, usually do
there are servers with >20k players
constantly
Minecraft is kind of a weird one. There's massively multiplayer kinds of servers, quick match style servers, griefer servers.
obviously you can play it single player, and a lot of people do, but yeah
Depends a lot on which community you’re playing in I guess. Like if you’re playing on hypixel, it’s way more social than a factions server for example
I mean I would actually argue the opposite
smaller servers are more social, or at least used to be
factions specifically are more toxic. sure
Wynncraft
why can't I leave a upvote to the new questions?
No idea, good question
I.. think a mod was manually adding the first emote
which people could then add a copy of, but we can't add new ones
i’m not sure i’d say that kids would be unlikely to be interested in palia tbh
would make the most sense, that way the questions need to be approved first before voting
I'm a grown man and I'm interested as well
that’s a sweeping generalisation
Tell that to 7 year old me
Social MMOs have been around forever with ranging demographics.
yoo good evening, just quick question are there mobs to kill in game or is there any killing involved at all like an mmorpg?
yeah bad if you are in europe and can't get upvotes because yeah you sleep when they are on
i’ve got two children who would argue with you lol
I think they'll open up mod applications soon, then we might see some EU mods 🙂
yeah sadly we are a minority
facts lmao mmos are lit
I mean that's just how discord emotes work, you can disable reactions to messages, but if a reaction is already there you can add a copy. I don't know if it's intended that new questions aren't getting them automatically though
you can but it is not primary goal
Not the main focus
that’s not to say that kids are the target demographic, but kids aren’t unlikely to be interested
oh what's the main focus then? just seems like an open world where you can do anything you want
there will be hunting
I guess a bot would make a good job there
I know what Chapaas are, but what are Chuus? 😮
Hunting/Gathering/Cultivating/Crafting kind of mmo
Mhm farming fishing animal handling building community
Same thing, different community made name for them
and there will be some kind of more traditional combat added later on, but it's completely optional
also there are no health bars. or death
when players are faster as devs^^, players called them chuu before the devs could tell them they are called chapaas. now we have a fight
the answer to your question is in the #❔│game-faqs
I would say it's got a very broad target, from young adults to doddering old codgers. 😋
glad i just make the cut off then
Counting myself in the latter hehe
they seem to be marketing to a very diverse crowd, which i really appreciate
I mean, they said it was loosely similar to animal crossing
that game is for all ages
I'd say it's a much wider net than Animal Crossing. Animal Crossing commercials had a very specific demographic.
but on the other hand, all games are for all ages, except when you go to the PEGI 6 or below catagory
this game is amazing and I'd prolly play it day one
but i still yearn for a dark and brutal MMO in a similar setting as dark souls or somethong
MMO's have been severely lacking.
The current big MMO's are all inherently bad. People have just gotten used to playing them so they see it through a different filter.
Hello again everyone

I have high hopes for this game
In terms of a target audience yes. But AC has its own very solid adult following as well
this tbh ^^^^
the MMO community has been getting shovled crap for quite some tine
ok now i'm super confused. when I first read the game wasn't combat focused I began to think it was going to be economy focused like harvest moon games. but then the FAQ says it's not that. Then what exactly is the goal the player is meant to achieve while playing
personally I've always seen MMOs being 10 years behind the industry in both graphics and gameplay
Nah, I agree, most of them just don't bring anything new, just each cycle the same stuff in different colors
I disagree here. While we can dissect them and point out flaws I think saying inherently bad is a little unfair. I would agree perhaps the formula for most is overdone and getting worn. But many have great features
I mean, also there are plenty of people who just enjoy them the way they are. It’s a bit of a design rut on one hand but also proven on the other. That said, this one looks like a breath of fresh air.
You can enjoy a bad MMO
Just saying that, they are all severely flawed
people have gotten used to it, so the bad has turned to the normal
We can also just have differences of opinion on what flaws are and how severe they are.
i think it's in the nature of an mmo to be flawed.
there will never be such thing as a perfect mmo
Very true, though there are constants. grass is green, the sky is blue, Farming for 8 hours while someone with 10 bucks can skip it.
stuff like that
You’re generalizing though, as not all the major MMOs have p2w features.
It does have a lot of adults playing it, but their target was pretty close. It's mostly commercials with young adult women or young girls of the middle-class. I'd say this game could end up being more open to other demographics than them.
At the end of the day with MMOs you have to pick the lesser evil right
Also not only is it unnecessary to slam other MMOs to praise the promise of this one, it’s actively discouraged in the rules for the server.
Ofcourse I am generalizing :p
I am doing so to get my point across easier.
Not disagreeing. But the mature retro crowd lapped it up.
This is a conversation right? we all got our opinions here
and I'd love to hear everyone else's
Yes, but again, there are rules and the devs have said they want to keep things positive. It’s their server.
sharing your opinion on the internet is how you get labled a troll.
Not all opinions are created equal is the sad truth.
Aye, very much depends on the opinion and the delivery
everyone has the right to voice their opinion. Just like everyone has the right to say that others opinion is wrong.
At the end of the day, have respect and respect each other.
it's the internet, you have no rights.
Oof
oh right, forgot
Correct. And on this server, the devs have specified that their version of respect is to avoid slamming other games.
If you don’t like their guidelines there are lots of other venues to share your opinions on where they’ll find more fertile ground.
As far as I know, we have been breaking zero guidelines. we have just been talking about opinions and the state of the current MMO genre.
You're making artificial problems.
are you policing this server rn dude
👀
I see drama 🍿
So do you ya'll think the golems are playable characters?
Join me, my popcorn eating friend :)
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oh the is happening
One thing I definitely agree on is the paying a fee to skip or speed up a task or to boost xp. This is one place I felt archeage as an example failed its players, its another example predatory mechanics.
Well first off there is a different channel for discussing other games. Second no, I’m just saying that’s what they’ve asked us for in writing. You can listen to them or not, that’s your business.
Borf, borf Borf.
I see chat's in full swing, morning 👋
the only announced playable races atm are humans and elves in the future, unfortunately. :(
I think slamming other games flaws can be helpful to game design.
Thanks for the info!
This ^^^^^^^
You learn from others mistakes
A lot of MMOs have bad player housing, for example.
Slamming a game's flaws =/= critiquing the flaw.
ily
Slamming no. Drawing.... Yeah that Sileka
i hate pretty much all f2p payment models. I found path of exile's model acceptable. Mostly cosmetics. But ultimately I'd much rather just play a sub fee game. Give me 2 games that are identical. One is f2P with the crappy payment models that come with it, and one that is a sub fee. I'll take the sub fee one.
Someone's slamming is someone else's critique. This is just a matter of opinion.
Taking an objective look at why a particular mechanic fails can be helpful in improvement. But most of us rarely fairly critique the flaws 😉
a lot MMOs deserve the heat tho
It really isn't. Slamming is unconstructive
I want this game to be either buy to play with cosmetics cash shop, something kinda like GW2
Can we please not start on monetization again? We're just going to end up running in circles, again.
I think there’s an obvious line between them. One is constructive and offers dispassionate feedback and solutions, the other doesn’t. Not really a subjective thing imo
Elves ended up actually as a rumor that somehow got spun into fact :/
Is elves an actual payable race? I thought they were NPC race and that we can only be humans
as opposed to the current conversation about slamming games, and discord rules?
I think sometimes you gotta lay down the smack down! For example, some MMORPGs focus their efforts on small group content that is smaller than 5v5 FPS game matches, then they make player housing a singleplayer experience. That should get grilled.
Very true, I guess I leave out constructive feedback when I think its obvious what the problem is.
Just npc
ooh, but they are in the FAQ i swore?
I saw them in the FaQ also.
It was, but it was a mix up of something else. Some sentences got crossed and picked up apparently
unfortunate. :(
they said they are working on a elven race but they did not say that we can play as one
Oh poo, but... not so bad.
Yeah, got to remember the doc isn’t official and can sometimes contain mistakes
Exactly, things happen
lets be honest here, if you ban all conversations that go in circles. there will be no conversations here. circular conversations, and repeating the same conversations happens when there isn't a ton of information yet.
well its speculating
Even devs make mistakes on their answers, like party size being 4 :p that's a thing that's so volatile to change that it shouldn't have been given out as a definite
I always thought it would be a little weird if the game’s lore was focused on humans returning but then we were also playing elves, but on the other hand I like choices
party size of 4 also seems rather small for a MMO
pastel, aren't you supposed to be sleeping? 🤨
Yeah they’ve also said not all the devs have the full picture at all times
Chat was on fire yesterday because of monetization talk. I said "again" twice..
The thing with monetization is that we have 0 info, so EVERYTHING regarding it is pure speculation at this point.
Party size of 4 really doesn't feel small to me...WoW parties are 5, right? And I know gw2 is also 5, so what's the big deal about 4?
so about monetization huh
I play solo so I don't know what the average party size is 😅
Yeah, 99% of things is pure speculation at this point
doesn't WoW have large scale parties for hard bosses?
This isn't supposed to be a typical mmo though. From my understating. So question is more, "What purpose would grouping serve?" (I may have missed an explanation of that though.)
There’s a fair amount we can talk about that we have answers on
Don't you dare start!
Yeah parties and squads are two different things :p
I didn't expect this game to have such a massive following so early, awesome.
soooo P2...... >:)
just say it, you don't like that particular topic so you are using excuses which can define literally every other conversation possible here in order to not have that one conversation.
We are all looking for a new thing to invest time in :p IMO, all other MMO type games completely lost their "community feeling"
Can we just not have the negativity please >_>
Some games are trying to increase the standard party size, because it works better with the holy trinity, but I think games should try to raise that number up anyways if they're going to claim to be massively multiplayer.
I mean honestly i hope for the game to be kinda like Runescape in terms of open worldness
mods are asleep go for it
Wow classic still kinda feels community driven, but you're correct.
Albion Online can't be played without a community.
If you cant handle a tiny bit of negativity then the internet is not a place for you mate ^^''
I have seen no negativity so far
So can I instead discuss this....
Who wants to join me in the tavern in the future while the bard jams out on whatever musical instrument exists in the game?
Never picked that game up! I'll check it out thanks
Sheesh... I was there when it happened yesterday, chat WILL turn into utter chaos. A mod had to step in
dips on the washing board
It’s not just me, the whole server has expressed a consistent desire to keep things positive here since it launched. Not about what I can “handle”
I'll be chilling by the trash can chapaa
I see, so your in favor of avoiding any topic that may lead to people disagreeing.
just a heads up, it's a full loot, pvp and player economy driven game, albion online.
yeah people generally want to keep this server about the postive aspect of the game. Negativity can be handled when people have actually played the game
Constructive arguments vs arguing are two different things though
That sounds.... Sounds like it could become toxic game 😅
It’s pretty pointless to debate something that has no information
How about we move on, there's no use going back and forth at each other over opinions. Stay friendly
If a mod stepped it, that indicates it became more then just a 'disagreement'...
I guess our tolerance this differs :p
I strongly remember the good old 2016 days where the Internet was a crazy wild west of insults and war.
let's just say it's not for the average players. 🙂
I rather looking forward to hanging out and working with people. I have made some epic friends over the years with people online
The subject of not allowing controversy is rather controversial.
strokes other peoples cheeks i can be... friendly
O_o
I will give in to flights of dreaming and pray there are bowlback mandolins ❤️
oh my..
I am in favor of avoiding a topic that has already been proven to be moot to discuss at this point since we have 0 information about it
Again, not about tolerance. This isn’t the Wild West of the internet, it’s a private server. But yes, let us move on because this won’t get us anywhere.
What kind of pets are you guys hoping for?
Capybaras.
Eh what ever i'm out. can't even discuss the thing most important to me right now and thats the payment model because peopel aare scurred that negativity might come in. Walking one egg shells due to sensitivities sucks.
Disagreeing is perfectly fine, disagreement can lead to great things. I'm just asking people to disagree civilly(if that's not a word it is now)
OMG MANDOLINS LOOK LIKE THE PERFECT FANTASY BARD WEAPON!!
I get ya mate, we're good
I hope the server arrangements will allow for community led hide and seek games
yes please
Payment has been discussed multiple times, you can just got back in chat history
Of course the tricky thing is this channel won’t have much additional to talk about even once pre-alpha launches, since everyone who gets accepted will be under NDA
tho you might be scrolling for a while
@junior bison I would love a cat as a pet =)
Awesome, I wasn't part of that conversation.
Is there a pinned comment on this? I'd love to read up on their plans
I’m also not sure what discussing something with no information really will achieve anyway hopefully we get to know more soon
oh no no no it hasn't been discussed by devs, just players speculating
Between those and Lutes (though the bent neck on lutes disturbs me for some reason ._.)
And presumably we’ll have hidden channels to talk about things in
I... So this may be uncommon but I really want a game that lets me have a pet Mongoose 🥺
Mornin lads/lassies/none of the above
There's gunna be channels for the testers only :)
Then wait until we have something tangible to discuss monetization-wise then
Discussing things we have no informaton about is this discord in a nutshell though
Yeah, just not this one XD
I'd be happy with anything fox-like. Not biased at all :3
I also like little harps
RED PANDAS
Yeah, the community is gunna get splittt
I want a bear.
Plenty we have more info about than monetization
I wonder if we could have a otter. That with be amazing
I've not had the pleasure of playing a lyre. But... they do strike a nice fantasy cord! (pun unintended... at first)
Ooo yes yes. They are super adorbs!
look at my profile pic! photo taken by me! dabs in cuteness
And I'm telling you now..there's gunna be leaks. There's absolutely no way to avoid it unfortunately :/ NDA isn't a 100% guarantee
please can we not discuss what kind of pets we may not have 😦 We have no information about it, it's all speculation.
I feel like I'd want fantasy animals instead of real life animals for pets
Otters are very cute, though in real life Otters are heckin scary
If I can’t have a pet capybara (or a herd of capybaras! 😌) then I’d like ducks as a consolation prize.
🤨 what's the time over there?
Also stinky, I've heard
pet's aren't a topic that can turn toxic 🙂
In real life all animals are heccin scary
6am
how long did you sleep? 👀
6 pm
are you sure about that?
Otters are spawn from hell. Absolutely horrible creatures. cute looks, but the minds of a psychopaths
What's wrong with speculating about pets? It's just a conversation on what they'd like to see
pretty sure yes, unless you intentionally try to make it toxic
cough dolphins cough
Dont start on those O_o
About 45 minutes to an hour
Howdy partner, I don't much appreciate your selected pets, you' got that son? Yeehaw 🤠
Go sleep.
I did
What about octopi, and they can secretly be smarter than us
uhhhhhh
For 45 minutes to an hour
Sleep more..
All that extra brain capacity and what did they decide to use it for... Horrors!
So since you like bears...
Strums air banjo
Look for the ... BEAR NECESSITIES
Howdy cowboy, i reckon i got meh little fella in the forest. He is a feisty little guy
THE SIMPLE BEAR NECESSITIES
all it takes for a conversation to become toxic is have someone really passionate about something, and another person firmly against that thing. You can discuss pitbulls and the conversation could potentially turn wild.
FORGET ABOUT YOUR WORRIES AND YOUR STRIFE
And I took that personally
Think pets will be cosmetic in this game or think they'll serve a purpose?
Hey all !
I imagine there is room for both options.
I have no problem paying a small microtransaction for a pet, if that ends up happening.
Hey there
let's just not go there man okay, just stop. You are obviously looking for people to argue
well, I am off to bed. goonai palia chat. 
I hope there's autoloot and we won't need a pet for it
sleep tight
Rest well
Now, this is a feature I liked in Torchlight. Your pet hoovering things up for you.
That could be said for any conversation though. Even if facts are in the channel you can have a person start trolling to get a reaction.
It would be interesting to see if all the house would look the same on the outside or if we could put our own flare to them
Guys it's just a conversation about pets, it's fine, really
I dont see any problems as of yet lol, just people overreacting
It's possible. Like there could be a hunting blood hound and then a cute little chapaachuu.
I want a bear that only stands still in my house, and on the clock every hour it strikes the hardest fucking dab in the universe.
No I was here to discuss my hopes for how the way payment model is handled. But I was shut down by rude people. Which was in my opinion toxic behavior, If I seem short it's because I don't appreciate being rude to like that.
I can’t remember, have they said if there will be livestock? Cows, chickens et al. like animals kept for resources.
Have it sit on your shoulder FF14 style 😉
Oddly specific
People can talk about what they want and hope for, no one is saying it's fact
Not sure if any of you know about Garden Paws, but I love how every wild animal can be tamed there and be your pet, so would be amazing if something similar in that game too but if not that's fine as well 🙂
I have a specific set of needs
we were not rude, we just told you it has been discussed multiple times 🙂 And most people don't want to discuss it again untill there is more information 🙂
i have a MIGHTY NEED
A NEED FOR DABBING BEARS
Microtransactions tend to be more of a hot button topic then... pets though.
exactly
Even if we can't have pets I will name random things even if I can't change the names
And the person actually pointed out that the topic got so out of hand yesterday that a mod actually had to step in and put a stop to it.
Yeah one of the channels got put on read only
Why can't weee be friends, why can't wweeeeee be frieeenddsss
I mean technically we’re having another debate on it but this was is a debate about a debate inside a debate
I feel like pets you can name always end up being named after partners or things like BoatyMcBoatface hahaha
jams to the singing
Every time I got on the internet these days I feel like I have a gun to my head lol.
Constantly have to be careful of what I say because someone might twist my intentions into something horrible 😅
Have some more trust in each other people, there are different cultures out there that have their own way of talking and expressing feelings and ideas.
Debeption
Never ending cycle
They didn't just tell you to, "Stop I don't like it". They said, "stop, it got out of hand yesterday and we don't want to see that chaos again so soon."
Yeah, this is just people who have already been burned by that conversation exercising an abundance of caution.
I'm all for MTX's so long as it's COSMETIC ONLY
Disagreement does not equal heated argument
hello everyone
hullo
Hii
You say caution I say controlling toxic behavior.
and leave lootboxes out
Nyehhh I prefer in game farming.
🙂 I-
but that is only 1 aspect of the model? how is people gonna pay for the actual game? a one time payment of 60 bucks or subscription model
Sorry you feel that way.
that goes both ways though. You also have to be aware folks from different parts of the world have different mannerisms, expectations and understanding of emotional context in text format. Always think "Is this how I would like to be talked to", usually works, before typing anything.
Sorry if you percieved me as rude, but monetization already proved to be a moot point to discuss, cause you have one type implemented, and everyone has differing opinions on the matter. And it's too early for the devs to give us anything substantial about it. Bringing up monetization AGAIN will likely turn out the same way as yesterday
like taken out of my mouth.
Okay okay
?
It was taken out of your own mouth
No more talk about this until the pre alpha comes out or the devs say something
It's their game after all
Topic change pleaseee🥺
Sage just went ahead and grabbed it
I think I missed something yesterday
Yes please.
I hope hot chocolate will be a cooking recipe and fluffy socks will be a skin/cosmetic
I likes the trees in the game
just fail to see how thats different from any other potential topic. if you stop discussing things just because there has been a negative experience with it, eventually there will be nothing left to discuss. but w/e.
...
Hot chocolate as cooking?
Move. On.
LIKE taken out of my mouth
Because time has proven it's not a constructive conversation to have at this point.
nono I'm pretty sure it was
So in the meantime I would like to address the topic of.....
CAKE!
Do we have cake baking in the game? 🥺
Dude .. please
Here in the Netherlands its very normal to be extremely bold in how you speak, you speak the cold hard and sometimes painful truth. This is for others very offensive at times.
Of course I try my best 😅 But you cant really shed away a mannerism you have been accustomed to your entire life
If we have cooking then we jolly well better have cake.
Ooo cooking sounds fun =)
Or at least cookies. Lots of cookies.
And we do have cooking so!
baking cakes
I like cooking
I really hope cooking is as co-op as I've heard it sounds so fun
I wonder what date it's set in, like we all here asking for modern things and these times it would be hand craft things haha
But then don't be surprised if people dislike you for your "bold" speech
Yes!! I love cake
Thin cookies with chocolate and coconut flakes 🍴
Is the game going to be pg or can we expect brewing
you honestly think this type of response will calm someone down and encourage them to move on? What am I even suppose to do with that. It's another rude response.
If it’s anything like my rl experience of “co-op cooking” it means I get stuck with the dishes
I have noticed this with Netherlanders funnily enough. It does seem to be a trait you folks share. And yeah it can some times go over the line, but we all have something like that.
It's called a plea
I'm not :p
I have respect for others, that is what matters.
this guy is obviously trolling
What are we arguing about this time...
Yesss pls this would be so fun!!!
They said they're going for an E rating but that may not be possible anyways, so who knows lol
No , no it isn't. People are pleading with you to stop. It's not rude at all.
Oh no!! I washing dishes. The cooking I love
Always the worst part T.T
No it's just my way of saying be quite instead of being rude and bluntly saying "shut up" ... you want the continuation of the disagree for what?
Tbh you’re not really selling anyone on the idea that we could’ve gone on talking about monetization without you becoming heated 🤷
I'm gonna go get pizza
See y'all in a bit
coffee Time ☕
Ooo enjoy
ya gonna share? 👀
All good . Plenty of cooking options anyways
I don't think they're trolling. I understand they are getting agitated by being shut down. It's the whole "are you angry??" paradigm where you make someone angry by asking if they're angry.
Seems to be monetization as a topic this time
Again?
They lose validation by trying to shut down any other conversation as a form of retaliation though.
We've been over this and over this. We don't know until the devs tell us and they won't tell us until they're ready. It's a pointless topic because we have little and less to go on...
No it's an argument about the possibly of an argument. And neither of them can seem to let it go.
Okay NOW it's starting to look a little more like a manhunt
!! It's a big trigger point for everyone, but it's the fact that we agreed for a topic change and this guy is still coming with his one hit wonder speech like Dan
Well we all try our best to be respectful I hope :p
Slip ups happen, accepting this and trusting others that they are being respectful, but in their own way is important.
And yea mate, you noticed right. its quite crazy here in the Netherlands sometimes :D
yeah, we have been trying to get this across. But this one guy keeps pushing the agenda on to the chat
tbh I can't not respond to someone when they @ me. If you don't like my responses don't respond to me?
You are in control of your own actions. You can absolutely not respond to someone when they @ you.
That would put them on an equal level I'd say
You can choose to not reply.
I really can't it's a bit of an ocd thing I admit it's a flaw.
We’re just trying to talk about something we actually have info on, that’s all
I have OCD as well, and it took me a while, but it's a skill you can learn.
Yes "trying"
if someone speaks to me directly i'm compelled to respond
I find trying to find my bike in a sea of bikes to be the most chaotic aspect of the Netherlands
True, one can only really control their own participation.
Anyway.
PETS
So then your in a never ending drama with someone oh
how bout this, what era or backgeound does the story have.., seems alil far post apoc aince humans disappeared, but other species are alove and well
It's just finding that moment of understanding I think and giving people the benefit of the doubt which I admit is some times hard on the net.
Incredibly true its hell.
I walk from now on, I walk to work 3.5 kilometers to and from work every day
MUCH PETS
I've been up for an hour, didn't get much sleep last night because I was napping all day; covid vaccine had me out flat.
.<!! You know what. I am just going to leave the chat. As clearly no one can talk about anything with out been told off. Even when I was apart of alpha phase and testing other games. No one was like this. And we just talked about how we hoped what we saw, and how excited we where all. I understand everyone has differences. But if haven't got anything nice to say. Don't say anything
If it was some kind of apocalypse it must’ve been a very gentle one XD
Exercise is good
Oo hope you can sleep later Claris
Not sure I understand the logic behind that. But that behavior, to me, is throwing a tantrum because you don't get what you want.
Is the game going to be pvp/Pvm or pve
Ok bye
no confirmation yet, but it will have PvE
Emotions and even things like sarcasm are extremely hard to convey through text. I'm willing to bet that at least 90% of arguments is just started with 2 people trying to be respectful in their own way, but misunderstanding each other.
<@&830144903652311090> alert?
Yes please
O_o
Friendly competition but no dueling pvp (for now)
Yeah, right.
Oh yeah. And us Brits of a certain age do like our sarcasm and dry humour, it doesn't always translate well.
The only way I knew sarcasm in text was by everyone doing "XD" at the end haha
And primarily PvE based,
Ah yes, England. Even the Fallout games are a nicer place to live in then that hellhole 🥲
People get passionate about things they like, don't take them too serious ^^ once more information are out, things will probably change.
They are being told they can't discuss x, so they respond by saying well then the others can't discuss y. Motivation aside, it ends up the same
Good ol 2015, I miss that time
So someone mentioned pvp and I started thinking...
Fishing competition between two players as a form of pvp 😂
First to catch 10 fish wins the round
Its not too hard to be emotive through text imo, if that was the case then books would be very boring
Also I think it’s been suggested that humans “vanished” but weren’t necessarily killed off in any form
Morning Vlad!
Morning 😊
Well , that's a sweeping generalisation. And I can only speak for myself. But I'd rather be in Denmark.
😭😭 Ayy! Now in this age I don't even know what "XD" represents anymore
Ah, okay I understand! (Thank you.)
Being able to do stuff as a group is always fun I find for online games . It helps players want to login daily
yes hello? someone mentioned denmark? i'm from denmark, what can i help with?
As they say Teamwork makes the dream work. Right?
Definitely
Hah! Denmark is my second favourite country. Spent my honeymoon there in Copenhagen.
Yes I think so too
eyyy thank you for noticing our little nation of solitude
I’m pretty old and in my olden says sarcasm was denoted by :P, but now that seems to mean you’re being cute
It's a lovely place. People are a bit weird but lovely. 😉
I want to move to Europe someday but the rules and stuff for that are so complicated :')
we Are just a bit socially shy
Omg I remember " :p "
Sup everyone 👋
I was being sarcastic :')
And yea, Denmark has clean air atleast 🤣 when I was in London my lungs practically imploded.
It's fine. I can't wait to go back see my adoptive family there.
Don't because I miss my hometown Sweden. Uk is awesome but I miss home 😩
See! See!
:D
SWEDEN! tsk spit /s
hello neighbor Sweden here 😆
And for anyone not in the know this is a normal thing for the Swedish and the Danes to do. Like two brothers fighting, constantly...
😭😭 -hugs-
Hellooo
we didn't like that they wanted to "be independent" or something
KALMAR UNION FOR LIFE!
Someone was talking about the possibility of Neighbourhoods the other day. That would be great if they put that in the game
At least we have a speakable language.. 
Hi from Canada, but born in the USA
I have a buddy from Skania. I will say no more.
It's part of life 🤣
OY!.... you right you right
Chuu union for life
the neighbourhood thing is addressed a bit in the pinned gdoc
Neighborhoods are a thing, it’s Palia’s version of guilds
it looks interesting!
I can't wait to be able to play the game.
Thanks I’ll have to check that out
Swedish is very much speakable, unlike Danish 
I want mr.rogers in my neighborhood
Same! It's going to be äawesome
please excuse my spelling, from australia where we do things a lil different 😅
Swedish / Danish, it just depends how many potatoes you have crammed in the mouth.
has their been a document made on the "everything we know" so far?
Oh awesome 😂
Denmark: The older brother of the 3
Sweden: The little annoying brother who is a tad too liberal
Norway: The awesome rich brother everyone wants to be friends with
Like Snag sangas...
Yep, vlad their doc. Pinned in ask the team
😂😂 indeed
Many thanks, I'll give it a read
wait, ask the team is gone now right?
depends North or south Sweden 😏
I always like to think the Aussies are what you get if you let Brits be free range chickens. Y'know.
Not anymore, is pinned here now @lone thunder
laget irriterande 😂
Me, I speak French... the worse language ever...
Not gone yet but is being closed
lmaooooo
ohh we are roasting north europe, great
Depends on if you include the southernmost dialect or not
you have just one rule, only speak half of the written letters
Community bonding
So is Sweden viking land or is that Finland? I get confused about that
Aha! I was already confused. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ECHPsDvyC0KP6ldYRaeFtmR0mhwBVGckWEPcH_zNc7E/edit
@lone thunder ^ that link
That's Denmark
hence why they called them danes
you still have to know which ones to write
Not just Denmark but yes.
Noo it's the Danes
i mean norway too, but it was while they were part of denmark so i mean
Yep, now that is closed they removed it to clean the clutter in pinned msgs in favor of the more important ones. ^^
Ohh okay
thats why I decided to quit this language after 4 years in school
Yep, I was going to say this, the lines as they are drawn now were not the same. plus Denmark and Sweden kept swapping territory. cough Skaniacough and the folks who went Viking came from a wide area.
yeah, Yesterday was actually the start of the viking age (just a fun fact)
that's why no French really speaks French
Lool broken down french
they speak baguette
Oui oui
Morning my people 🙏
but you look pissed at every tourists who tries to communicate in another language with you
Bretagne has... Interesting versions of French
Just like Bavaria has interesting versions of German
This might sound far off, but I would LOVE TOBII Eye Tracker support for this game!
that sounds oddly like Wales to me.
what about north ._.
they don't speak german
i was pretty excited to read VR was a possibility
Eye Tracker support would be good for accessibility if it's possible.
And yet again do I get out of bed way later than planned... This is getting ridiculous at this point.. I'm off to eat breakfast 👋
its lunchtime
Indeed, I use it a lot to help me with my shitty reaction time.
they seem attuned to diverse needs in the player base
What time you going to bed bro
I think you don't need fast reactions in this game
only type fast for chat perhaps
There is some you simply can't really attend to very well in a mmo. Accessibility to people with extreme social anxiety disorders is probably difficult in a social game.
These fingers have been trained by years and years of global and guild mmorpg chat experience
but it is nice they try to hit as many groups as they can
and after that there is verlan, the languages of the south, the north, of Paris, of Lyon, ...
And in some ways that eases the barrier as well. But again that can depend heavily on the community versus any planned features that they implement.
For me grouping in WoW can be a hellish experience, as I am expecting to end up with less than savoury people.
I only hope they have a good chat system
I fell asleep roughly after 3 AM, had alarm ring at 10 AM, fell asleep again and woke up after 11 AM, and now it's 12:30 and I still haven't gotten out of bed.
However, I do have a plan, but I need a specific item for it (that I have ordered already)
yeah wow grouping can be hard... especially since i don't play the game 😂
That's when its most difficult yes.
ohh I should ask about that in the weekly questions
I hear you there Kae, I used to be able to play WoW better the community used to feel better. But then came all the armoury and eventually gearscore and all these other means used to judge people and soon anxiety went threw the roof. Addons is such a boon to that game but it's also a bit of a double edged sword.
Well I’d recommend going to bed earlier if you want to get up earlier 😆
I forgot WoW was about it was soo much better in the olden days
We are reading from the same book on this one Beans. The erosion of community responsiblity as well really got to me.
why is there 2h slow mode in #851872239435644928 ?
I blame how it went down more the esport route. It's really hard to not get a toxic community when things become competitive. Competition and toxic behavior seem to go hand in hand.
I love chat bubbles
Same here
when wow classic droped i got back and made a rogue and 30 days of hell began again lol
allows you to take your time while talking
I don't mind chat bubbles as long as they don't overlay the ui
I tried classic but honestly i think the apple was already rotten. everyone there acted the exact same they did in retail 😦
important for role play imo
And you can see what chAracter is saying it
guys im s hyped
Yes
I hope the UI is flexible so I can push it where I want and reduce it to what I need
does anyone know when they will start giving away early access?
Well competition I can handle, if its friendly and respectful. But you need that sense of community to keep things level through a sense of personal reputation. IF you act like an asshat people know you for it.
Classic was always a flawed concept. People can’t un-learn what they know from the first time around. There’s no putting that genie back in the bottle
Nope but they will announce when invites are sent
soon when they are ready.
awesome
on twitter?
I'm currently running around Zangarmarsh getting upset with Ogres.
Soon™
I think here too
lets pray
I assume on their available channels? So discord and Twitter,... Not confirmed tho
I should work and not chat here pretends to work
I don't know, I find it hard to have competition without having toxic practices such as judgemental behavior, and exclusion. Plus all the judging of eachother in every single aspect.
ppl still work in 2021!?
Sadly, human nature is very judgemental....
What I’m most looking forward to about Palia is the potential for something that eschews the traditional treadmill. Something relaxed and chill that gives me the community and vanity features without the excessive grinding
yeah and get paid so they can spend money for decoration in games
seems to be less harmful in co-op play versus competitive play though
Amen
Well thats not so much competition as it is elitist attitudes, which are definitely toxic
would be fun if this comes into early access before Hytale 😆
i find in co-op people are more interested in helping you grow, but in competitive play people are more interested in their own time and growth. So it tends to less then favorable behavior.
From what I can tell it seems like the devs aren’t planning on any kind of early access thing, but I guess that could change
Or that is to say, they’re doing alpha and beta phases but treating them in the traditional way
Yeah, which is an understandable part of competitive play. elitism is required to compete, otherwise you can't really achieve the best let alone have a hope at it.
Well for me I don't think it needs to be. but thats part of being a good sportsperson.
Does anyone know the general age bracket of the game? Obviously anyone can play, but Palia strikes me a "younger" focused game with simpler, more basic mechanics
yo
I think it’s different for different people
i want asap to try this, will be a hit this game
It's a guess but young adult to old codger.
When will start alpha test?
yeah i feel like it’s definitely possible to play competitively without bringing toxic attitudes to the table
You've been here long enough to know the answer.
I think it is more based on mindset than age
This game has that feel of being enjoyable for all ages to me.
Some want competition in everything and others would rather have some things that aren’t like that
They are indeed going for E rating but its not something they gonna force on it, from what I understood
i love this answer so much lol
if i can do a suggestion to the developers, optimize the game for the best performance, more optimized is more pcs can start it
stardew in 3d Pog
i mean it will most likely miss some features i would like. But i am mostly here for the amazing art style of the game. I like playing games with unique styles
Eng is no my native language so i cant read all messages
They're planning on it, they said they'd run it on a calculator if they could haha
we have no date yet
I know 🙂 The answer though is the same as yesterday. We don't know for certain but some time soon.
Sad
If in doubt. "Soon".
They will announce when emails are going out, that’s all we know
I'm dying to know if I will be chosen or not
I think they thought they will need a month to have eough people interested and not the 2h it really needed
the year is 2018: Cyberpunk 2077 will be released "soon"
Thank you for the answers guys.
I'm really hoping it's a bit deeper and more involved than just the basics and pretty art style
Now they need a month to sort out the list of applicants
As are we all. Most of us are likely to be disappointed at least in the first wave
I think ideally that is the way it would work, but in reality it doesn't. I mean when you can guarantee success if you take someone that you don't have to spend time with because they are for any given reason less effecient then another player. It's easier to just drop that person and grab someone else then it is to help them grow. Because the pressure is there to win. But in co-op you can work with people who are not as good rather it's because they are disabled or some other reason without the high pressure of competition forcing you to judge thier actions and consider replacement.
I think they gave up this idea after 1 day
they planned very good the presentation of the game btw
everyone wants to play it from trailer xd
they should the a stream program were the watchers can get a chance to get a code like they did with Valorent
also from the official art
Oh yeah, no argument here. When it all becomes about the winning at any cost then the spirit of the thing has withered. It's no longer about pushing your boundaries or growth, or working as a team or helping your fellows.
because that worked so well
mhm which is why I think competitive games invite that behavior more then co-op games.
They could but that would just end in too much chaos
is it even possible to not get bought by tencent
hands in literally everyones pockets
as much as I remember first there were no drops, than it were chaos and in the end it was even bigger chaos
The force is strong within u
True, but its also down to the community to balance that. We can't as players abdicate all responsibility there. Beause something is permissable doesn't always mean you should do it.
Tencent is the Chinese MMO doom company right?
Was going to make this same comment
Oh
gamigo trys to be it
tbh Tencent isn't that bad. I've played some games that got bought out by them that don't feel like it changed at all
It's hard not to get political when talking about chinese companies....they're one in the same
China in general is just a messy topic
Tencent is working well for my retirement
Tencent does not really ruin the game, they just introduce a lot of qol and cosmetic items for money
just take it to off topic then, then it's not an issue.
than back to topic, how many pets should they allow us?
path of exile is practically owned by them and from my experience the game quality and ethic has been the same. Excluding the recent debacle with streamer privledge but I don't feel like that was tencent's choice.
Infinite °^°
I hope we can let them roam around in the house
i want to make a wine cellar in the game
I want to be Captain Olimar and have 100 pets following me around
Preferably all capybaras
Limit to 1 pet that follows us and multiple pets we can leave in the house
okay we will all come over and drink at your house
That's a great idea!
and a secret room behind a bookcase for all my hunting trophies
can we make our pets work for us? just have a labor force of animals.
ohh we need such mechanics
I just want a woodland cottage in a hidden meadow in the middle of nowhere
If they give us secret passages in our houses at any point I’ll be over the moon
GGG?
yeah GGG is like 80% owned by tencent or something around there
Quokka or death!
I’m going to throw ingame house parties where everyone comes and I’m going to give a website everyone can go to that has a live dj playing from (who is also in game) and people can give requests
The only thing changed is that in china server they had a lot of qol cosmetics, everything the same on global server
Not what I think of when I see GGG cough
Pls yes I will come to dj party
had that in another game were you had an ingame device and could listen to online radio stations
Everyone is welcome!
i could pull out my turntables for this
I got this idea from the ingame house parties I went to in the Secret World
😭 I will sit back and laugh
we need a ingame school to teach each other our best swear words in our language
Imagine doing dungeons in palia to get bether seeds 😋