#💬│palia-discussions
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Tbh the outfits have alot of clipping and... Well... Fun fact the swim suit use to do alot of flashing
both parts of it 
do the stairs stack on top of one another? like can you make taller stairs? I am out of wood 😭
Its just a butt at the end of the day. Everyone has one.
i pretty much exclusively wear skirts and dresses (w leggings, bloomers, split slips, etc) bc i find them far more comfy than jeans/most pants/etc.
and for me it's not even like a "modesty thing" per se it's just a comfort thing. i do nannying in my dresses (not my miniskirts, but STILL), the bloomers/slip/etc part of it is very important just for ease of movement 😭😭
oh shoot that's what i forgot. i will check after i go press the "buy" button a lot to buy more hardwood planks
I just checked, they don't show on the mod bench
hopefully 
god damn this bug...
thank youu autoclicker
ok back to my plot, and i'll test the stair thing for you @vagrant lotus !
where do we get the builders item recipes from?
forge register in kilima
it's finicky... had to angle yoru cursor just right (for me anyways), but yes
omg yes(with less enthusiasm) thank you so much
im so sad. i love a ruffle skirt.
thank you sticker. 
there's a meme right there lmaoooo
oh? tamalas shop icon is real? I'm not crazy?
we really need the center reticle on house tours especially with the obstacle course idea being pushed
I have no ideaa ;-;
this isn't in the game yet/at all
why 
ty ciri, you worded it better than i. im busy getting hit with white screens when im trying to quickly get house tour tickets 
yeah it's not always things that will be in game or final drafts of the things that will
its taking pics of our backs ):
just randomly went onto someone's plot that has that ... space one. yeah. i. my stomach flipped.
immediately leaving that.
Did this patch add the duck recipe? (I might have missed it in discussions)
not that i've found, no
no 😭 I've checked every register and npc shop for new stuff and there's no ducks
tbh this really ruins the surprise of that
more so then her having a shop and it being “oh that’s just a bug 😬 “
ah. yes. perfect 
It's back already 
this is apparently the last thing i saw
So game still has flashes with no warnings, and the error that stops you entering maps is still around nice
ah yeah but we can't control what gets leaked to paliapedia and stuff so it's up to us to avoid it individually
good to know 
Wow not from the underground so it's not even super isolated wow
nah i am not online so i thought it was there as someone asked in general about it too
yeah wasn't the issue before bc of arcade machines?
your palian looks like they've drank so much they're trying to hold onto the floor
Is this like the bug that led to someone's account getting fully reset without warning?
no
See that's what someone told me but then someone said appy said something different but didn't... I lost track honestly
I know way back when, the issue was via arcade machines, so ppl mainly just guessed and assumed. idk if appy said anything different tho for this specific occurence
Yeah I asked about it a couple of times but I never got a nice simple clear answer but if it is the arcades it was based off people interacting and I'm guessing you were home alone so 
yeah I have pumpin seeds listed in my seed maker... another EW hint?
Be warned apparently they're a little flashy
Tbh, i dont think anybody 100% knew this time around what the problem was. I know ppl in tech-help even said they weren't sure 100%
“hint” and “accidentally implemented into the game” seem very similar this update
S6: no leaks
Also s6: leaks in gifs and ingame and trailers
anyways at least i got the 2 achievements i needed done for the home tours to buy the last 2 decor pieces from it
i don’t mine little hints like, say npcs talking or the world changing like it did a little when we got the back plot exit… but not through items we don’t even have in game yet or features like a courier pet
let us find that out the day of elderwoods as it’s taking the surprise out
I have it already, if needed
or well, i haven't taken a pciture but
not just this update. it's been a bunch that I've seen so far
That makes me wonder if ew is set for launch next month. They have never added leaks in patch’s ever.
also I thought the person earlier talking about glowing rocks was just seeing something cause I didn't see it in the picture... but oh boy. shiny rocks. very shiny
Can someone take a picture of the glowly rocks? I have yet to log in due to adulting lol
If I lay out a bunch of landscape hills, can I build my house on them?
well the stickers thing got implemented before its release, and I feel lile the update before had something. I think the accidents shifting to more EW based things supports your theory that EW is actually around the corner
I can't beleive you can't customize the color of the new decor items.
where do you get those from?
you don't, it's just listed in the seed maker rn
Boosts star quality? Oh my… yeah that’ll change my garden for sure
Is that the only new seed listed in there?
it’ll be double stars! ✨
so palia teasing/leaking in game this patch is
- courier pets
- pumpkins for gardening
So they are releasing a flannel patern, and preparing for pumpkins. Have they been working on this since fall and meant to realease it way back then but it took this long? 🤔
probably
Courier pets? Must've been busy in class when this was going on
sorry for bad switch pictures, but my rocks produce light at 10pm
Oh… oh no
it’s in settings i think? or some menu but it’s mentioned in the game
Okay, but what about the lettuce? The honey?
their getting ready to evolve
Figures. I'm not home and won't be for a while to play
yes, under gameplay settings
forget him, hes gone
ty valk 
The courier pet better be free
i prob won’t leave over it but it’ll leave a sour note with me fr

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Well, I think i did all the testing i wanted to do for the patch..? I know i wanted to eventually take a gif of the flash with epic effect settings vs low for hitting trees (and bugs) ... but i'll do that later. i dont have the energy atm.
Courier pets sure are gonna be....something, whatever they do
It would be nice if it were an extension of the shipping box we have on our home plot.
oh i missed the lettuce disappearing
After seeing/getting flashed over 15 times by loading screens via house tours, im kinda just done with palia today
...
I'll probably get banned from this discord if it's paid. Y'all will see me crashout live
WAIT they deleted lettuce?!
If they're not free, I wonder how they'll justify their whole "cosmetics only in the paid shop!" thing
Wait this could still be a arcade thing... The plot space is all connected I have a screenshot about it
i still have my seeds. it's possible that they might not have a tag in the storage (the crop itself)
Like I can float to someone else's plot
from my own home
Hm I’ll have to check if I have mine
it still could be, yeah 
yeah that's why I said "forget him, hes gone" 😂 you can still keep the seeds but the lettuce is gone for some reason
i’d call subira but she’s either at the inn or temples 
yeah i grew and harvested mine and it didn't come up in storage just now
Wait, there's lettuce?
was*
I still have lettuce :C
not yet, the seeds were accidentally sent for father's day
Honestly if its paid I think it will be the straw that breaks the camels back for a lot of people. /gen
it will be the end of the game for sure. people will riot and crash out, like Tempest said
that pumpkin seed is 100g, 2x2 easily, but useless stat
I'm hoping that they finally give a free pet so its not p2w (ideally with a quest to get said free pet) but I'm also not holding my breath
definitely, it’ll show me that S6 doesn’t care about free players beyond “have a friend gift you something”
I know it'll be for some at least. Though considering how I haven't heard much about "wait wtf why are there lootboxes now" yet outside of here, there's a lot of people who still give them a TON of grace
it'll prolly be an EW freebie upon login, or timed event for said map
or even reward for getting that far in the story, so everyone gets it
Having a free pet be a timed event would be horrible, tbh
this is S6, just thinking about what they've done thus far xD
S6 why do you constantly make it your mission to make decorating harder than it needs to be?
even if they wanna do a “limited time quest” that works for me but make it purchased from a vendor that’s relevant to it (i’d say city hall?) later so other players can get it
again though I am very curious to see what the new goalpost will be if this is a paid thing though because it is more than just a cosmetic
Ideally it'd be via story completion, as the woods are quite far, with a large CD.
My concern is the fact that the setting is specifically Courier pet, which makes me think it's something that isnt like... "you get a free pet, so you get access to said action" or "you have a pet so they are a courier"
it makes me think it's something else? idk how to word it but hoepfully i worded it right lol
brain is kinda fried currently
oh wow 
I get you 💚
whyyyy
Just wanting to add to this-- changing effects to 'low' doesn't change anything, other than make the jump pad itself more noticeable.
yeah i'm hoping that's draft copy that hasn't gone by an editor yet, but it's a slim hope
seriously why does everything in this game flash? have we not said it enough that that's literally dangerous? this game is known to put people in the hospital. Is a lawsuit what it takes to get then to take epilepsy and vision impairment seriously?
im so glad bc those loading screens made my brain mush
💛 appreciate you
wtf is a courier pet
what does EW stand for. i keep thinking "ewwww" Elderwoods I AM SO SORRY LMAO
that took me way too long
we dont know. that's the thing. it's just in gameplay settings.
Hmmm
let it be a snail pet 
it's cool, I read it as "ewww" also
keeps my expectations manageable
The actual effect of jumping is the same in low effect at least. not sur eabout other graphics
I only tested with the "Effects" on low. Since that's usually what changed how flashes/glow effects are in palia
But the jumpad itself, there's a little glow that is more noticeable above it in low effects
I figured it out guys, the cosmos protocol was a nuke and now everything is radioactive 😂
Post apocalyptic post apocalyptic palia
okay. i gotta tr yto rest my head or something, bc again, those white flahses betwen loading screens... sighs. hopefully they fix that at some point, because it's just.
not great.
I have a feeling courier pets will just be pets you can gift to others or something
I feel like your telling on me 
they will have a gameplay mechanic
that's all we rly know
Ah
soooo, crashes on switch… I can just stand there on my plot and do nothing and crash now 🫣
Just wondering if anyone else?
the palia news post isn't up yet so the link in the socials posts gets an error
it’s been happening a lot more yea
oh nooooo
I haven't had any issues so far actually, been on my home plot studying radioactive rocks for like an irl hour 😂
Freyja is about to become Freyulk!
you wouldn't like me when I'm angry
we will see on elderwoods release
FR
Do you have the rest of that pic? ❤️
I mean it kinda says what it is in the description lol or at least an idea, anyway. You can send stuff back to your home plot, assuming to put in storage or something, so you don’t have to keep going back?? 🤷♀️ maybe idk haha
Technically it says it, but we still don't know. It could be with the pets we already have to buy, it could be ac ompletely different feature, it could be something that ppl get that's free. It's hard to tell in that aspect!
Don't tell me that 
as for showing what it does, it could use a little tutorial like ffxiv has with the choco mount you get that acts as extra bag storage
new plushie coming from the devs
a mimic /jk 
tired of the old "looted chests return" bug? check out the new Snowball edition!
we are all equally confused. I think it was supposed to be something fun for winter that didn't get properly done and is now accidently here 😂
LOL on the wrong channel but works non the less
Where do you get the new jump pad? I've looked everywhere....but clearly not 🤔
i think it’s just what it uses for spawning chests, like how the cylinders were for different things like shells or mushrooms for example
it’s either sifuus store or the housing tour sign (the green one ) on your plot (idk which i forget already) 
You've heard of cyl-chan, now get ready for sphere-kun
okay the shiny rocks are very annoying, I hope that's an accident and not a feature but we will never know because it's not in the patch notes
Ohh, I would never have thought of the housing tour sign! It's definitely that because the builder set is at Sifuu's. Thank you!
Sign, timer, and jump pad is home tour store
The builder set is via sifuu's register by the forge/anvil in kilima
!support make sure to report everything you think is a bug 
Here's a link to the Player Support: http://support.palia.com/
I wouldn't mind it. If it was an option.
options in palia? don’t think so
/jk
I mostly hate it because my dumb self with bad eyes already had trouble seeing palium, now everything looks like palium from far away 😭
Ikr? I thought that they were going to disappear, because of this new kind of light on them
this is just a normal rock... why
Where do we buy the builder's set ?
So it's possible to get a mystery gift of something worth less then the gift price?
I've seen 2 ppl mention they have, yes. because of the sale with the moorland outfit.

Ah, so you called it. At least I think it was you 
No way the mystery gift thing doesn't take into account sale prices I---
The register by the anvil/sifuu's shop in kilima
I suddenly have skylights that don't actually exist
lol wasn't the point that you cant get something worth less than the box? cause "it's not a lootbox" or whatever
Now I want actual skylights
i dont think it was me, but i was at least thinking it lol.
Thank you
in kilima too
image from bahari #💬│palia-discussions message, but yeah not map specific (#💬│palia-discussions message this was seeing it in kilima)
yeah it's just all rocks, I posted pics of the radioactive home plot decorations I have now
Invisible lights, glowing rocks, cyl’s older brother sphere, mystery gifts giving out sale items, S6 what are we doing honey
Although I did hear pavers are fixed and I do sincerely appreciate that tysm
the link to the twitch drops that they posted on x/social feed also leads to a 'page not found' 
yup saw it on someone's stream, they're fixed - drops are live on twitch as of like 2 minutes ago btw
New npc unlocked, Maru-niisan
pumpkin seed recipe in the seed makers, new setting about something called a courier pet
but, in case ppl want to know what the drops are:
.. normally i would do an alt/image description, but i honestly dont even know how to do that for this.
woooow how completely worth six hours of bandwidth
What in the zeki’s prize wheel-
the thing is i dont even know what you get for the 6 hours, too
it's why im sitting here like "how do i make an image description to be helpful"
gold bars are basically the only useful thing there?
oh. Now the link works and isn't a 'page not found'. smh i just had to say something! /silly
do the will smith meme 
what in tarnation
But what they say in the blog (and in community news) was this..?
"1-hour Viewed: Tier One Rewards
3-hours Viewed: Tier Two Rewards
6-hours Viewed: Tier Three Rewards"
I dont know what this means 
the page is up now https://palia.com/news/190-twitch-drops ... but not very descriptive in the body
1-hour Viewed: Tier One Rewards 3-hours Viewed: Tier Two Rewards 6-hours Viewed: Tier Three Rewards
and yeah the twitch description isn't much better Drop
Go to a participating live channel
Watch for 1 hour and claim the rewards 3x Sapwood Plank, 2x Fabric, and 5x Leather
Watch for 3 hours and claim the rewards
Watch for 6 hours and claim the rewards
so grabbing it to piece together from the Twitch Inventory
- 1 hour - 3x Sapwood Plank, 2x Fabric, and 5x Leather
- 3 hours - 1x flour, corn, milk, egg; 2x butter, sugar; 5x gold bars; 1x series 1 sticker pack
- 6 hours - 5x flow planks, palium bars; 2x series 2 sticker pack, potato pods 190; 10x gold bars
you just gotta figure it out by the icons I guess lmfaaooo
Thank you! And yeah. It's just.. yeah. Not very helpful/descriptive, lol
Is it really that hard to just...write it out.....
Meanwhile the sale posts are like a novel with emoji spam and no pictures
I guess from the main image, but it's also just... I don't know. sighs.
I almost wonder if they choose to be obstructive in their descriptions because they know we'll do it for them lol
I still have a Concern about sale items being part of the mystery gifting
because you're spending more than the item is currently worth and don't know you've done it until it's too late
Tbh, i'm going to take advantage of the spheres while I can to finish collecting the Barhari chests
And that's why gacha sucks!
Three.... Three planks....
yep and gifts can't be refunded. honestly upsets me quite a bit.
wait, how many potato pods??
- the 190 is indicating the patch
i need 190 pods stat! 
190 ducks
Genuinely questioning here... Do the people who pick these rewards actually play the game...?
yesss 
Who even knows at this point
ohhhh okay I was like 👁️ 👄 👁️
obviously not lol
I can breath on the game and get more wood then they give you here
accidental visual accessibility addition... sorta since it shows on already collected chests too
Same thought. 15 gold bars might be worth it. Thankfully my friends stream so I will just inadvertently get the 6 hours anyway.
the only think kind worth it is gold bars, the rest is trash
Watch for 3 hours or chop 1 tree. Hmmmmm
should be able to at least make a thing or 2 imo for rewards if it’s materials for things 
The lights for my world turned off for some reason 😭
All I can do is laugh at those drop rewards, seriously, this has to be an early April fool's joke
i honestly just dont like twitch rewards in general. esp considering twitch drops can be buggy/glitchy when it comes to progress
It's okay, my server stole them to light up the inside of my house
have you seen what they showed for april fools /gen
passing along my concern about the mystery gift sale issue but.... not sure if it's intentional or not.... we'll see ig
It looked good but still.
I genuinely don't understand why the seasonal palcat plushies are not seasonal twitch drops that are just... ongoing. want the autumn cat? watch the autumn twitch stream for 3 hours
Oh god, no, what is it
Once human gives me cosmetics for watching something for 6 hours, Palia gives me potatos and a bag of onions like our poor and dont deserve to be rewarded for any time you try putting into the game
😐
And a chef kiss emote for 300 palia coins as well on april 1st.
God it is WILD. I can't believe. Their April Fools Day joke is paid. like. I just. what.
The game's becoming more of a parody of itself every patch
yeah my brain isn't taking it well. blue rocks are palium, but now everything is blue 😭
im genuinely, genuinely, hoping there's more to it than that.
I would say the same but my hopes are too limited already to dash them willy nilly like that
the April fools joke is us yall... I said it before, the joke wasn't for us, it's on us.
I am too but I don't even know. The glasses are definitely a reference to the 👀 they put next to april fools on the patch "teaser". other than that I. honestly I wouldn't expect much
oh. i know. 😔
oh no 😆 you can launch yourself even in building mode
don’t tell the muujin that, you’ll put them out of business
#defundthemujiinspaceprogram
i wish for the twitch they'd give everyone a free mystery box...but stickers....yay
the twitch drops wasnt the early april fools joke?
that would actually be cool. but they don't give out free outfits, remember
it could of easily of been made a free item. but no...300 coins for glasses!
The day we ever get a free outfit is the day I eat my hat
Your hat is safe forever
i mean they gave out the free glasses before for twitch drop..but after that never again
that's different, not an outfit. I don't have the link, but there's a message from WC about it
#💬│palia-discussions message
This one?
""But earning our current premium outfits is not under consideration.""
lawd I hate that message, yes lmao
facebook mom humor :(
Why are all the rocks glowing?
Spaghetti code.
i hope it's not intentional. i reallyyyy hope it's not intentional. i reallly reallyyy realllyyy hope it's not intentional
the first one is infuriating to read because there are SO many successful ones. cherry picking is a weird choice out of all of the prime examples where it does work.
It's worse when you realize he's cherry picking like 3 games out of a list of 500 that fit the description
im starting to see a trend with these responses lool
its really weird that they wont invest in player reward but they will spend money developing vinyls and coffee
Yes, the player is wrong/to blame for problems and S6 is smarter than us.
i've just decided that i dont think palia's monetization model is for me, and how i'm saying that to the studio is not buying stuff bc. i really think their monitization model is... eh. not ideal.
also they went back on lootboxes/fomo marketing, why can't they go back on this?
I think the difference is that Palia's player base is not at the size to really support earnable premium currency but then S6 are not exactly helping the problem with increasing bugs every patch and lack of content.
But coffee tasty, coffee is highly request
I think more than 40k active players is more than enough to do some minor earnable currency, or at least add some earnable outfits
Honestly, earnable premium currency isn't what most people want
It's earnable outfits
Separate from cash shop
Idk. The "coffee" (madrinas) is more like ...
A lot of sugar. A lot of caffeine.
At least the 2nd one that they did, it was actually for like an energy type drink instead of saying "coffee". 
One of my hotpot games ended on round 2.
the earnable premium currency is also paid earnable (liek the login rewards u pay to get a discount on)
Agree, the coffee mix tastes like fake sugar when you do mix it with water. I think it tastes better with dairy. Haven't tried the blackberry one yet. More collabs that are "highly requested" lol
I wanna know who's requesting this stuff 
skill outfits!! or even friendship/romance rewards outfits or accessories; like imagine reth giving you an apron, zeki making you your own goggle, or einar a straw hat
It's also just the nutrition info. If i didnt get a mild headache from white flashes via loading screens earlier, i'd go get it. but the nutrition info for the coffee is just... abyssmal
The stakeholders (for legal reasons this is a joke)
I've talked about skill outfits so much. But now I just... don't see it happening, considering they have added "skill-based/inspired" outfits in the premium shop now, so..
throw things in the guild stores, let ppl craft something? anything but paying irl, and i’m not against their shop i’m all for it cuz yea they need to make money blah. it’s not “for folks who don’t value our cosmetics”, it’s just added game play that would be enticing for players even if they pay or not for something from the store. i said it before but can keep the super cool outfits/reskins for the store, put something nice for skills even if it’s unlocked pieces at a time, maybe through quests, leveling up that skill? doing certain achievements, would be nice
i joke a lot of other games “they hate free players” but palia is treading that line very hazardly for me
insert SpongeBob rainbow gif, but it just says "nobody"
For real, like why isn't this a thing already? skill hats. gib me a chef hat
TBH I'd say it's a lack of earnable rewards you can show off in general, give your character a sense of visual progress
(Almost) everything palia lets you earn right now is effectively isolated to your home plot, where it's impossible to show off anything without jumping through some kind of hoops first
they can still do even simple designs, think what npcs would wear in palia not players 
like how we thought stickers would be rewards for doing tasks/quest/anything other than RNG so we could display them on our profile or something? like that? lmao I wish 😭
Ever since their whole "this is for our supporters!" with the initial palcat and their "supporters" were only people who put down their credit card I was like
yeah I see the writing on the wall
"that sign can't stop me because I can't read"
I wanna say something. but I think the bot would get me before I could
what I'm hearing, is that you want more stickers 
throws rng at you
lmao I disabled them, also I never see people using them hahah
i can't imagine it being THAT hard to add new free outfits or accessories, esp since they dropped a couple new hairstyles not long ago. I'd genuinely take anything at this point, even just new colors. I'm kinda sick of looking at all the current options lmao
tbh I took a month long break until yesterday so my experience is not vast since the stickers
Alright so uhh I asked about the issue with the mystery gifts currently giving on sale items and the answer that I received is that it's working as intended, that mystery gifts are based on the base price.

got permission to share that answer
wooooooowwww
hot take - The coal pile should fit in the cart
so S6 themselves leaked this patch:
pumpkin seeds, courier pet feature and an upcoming outfit
that's... way too funny
when elderwood leak in the game 
yes, I tried and it doesn't even sit on top sadly 😭
so wait for a sale on certain items a friend might want then buy a mystery gift that way? 
i logged in, saw the update was almost entirely paid 'content', logged out. I'm so sad with what Palia has become. I get they're working on a new area but it's been nearly 2 years i think since this game released in 'early access'. If they're so hard up on cash for development, just make the game cost something to begin with
I'm so ready for elderwood!
Wait, waht's the outfit?
nah it's more like the sale price is less than the mystery box cost and so you're losing money now
probably next update at this point
posted it in #👕│outfits-cosmetics
Why is it so... bulky
I just...
I genuinely just don't get it
this is seriously their answer to the problem? Anyone who lives in a country where this is scrutinized, please look into the laws and report back because Palia already got in trouble for sale prices with the EU and had to fix it. Looks like they're doing it again.
and by "fix it" I mean get rid of the evidence of the problem to comply with the law so uh.... yeah
Like I'm sure I'm not the only one here who have had many a situation in life where they've bought something, then afterwards seen that there was a promo code somewhere and were like "oh come ON"
now mix that with a layer of RNG
i'm only sorry that we got this info through you because then there's no way to have it pinned. because this should be information that everyone gets to see. in any way Relika thank you for asking and sharing the answer
Yeah I totally agree. And no problem <3 I try to get answers where I can
Also for me, this is how it crosses over into gambling territory. Because you can technically “lose.” But I still think S6 can get around any gambling comparisons since it’s a gift and not a pull for the purchaser themselves 
That's why I said something about looking into EU law, they've already been in trouble, looks like they are headed for more. It is a gatcha if you can actually lose money
just, don't understand why the devs/higher ups (whoever makes the calls on this) do stupid things like this. We say we want to be able to gift premium outfits to our friends, so instead of, you know, just allowing us to purchase the outfit the friend wants (which would probably not be to difficult to program), they instead take that as we want to give a mystery outfit (one that the friend may not even like/want for whatever reasons) to someone
I think the new update brought more bugs that I expected...
My game blocks in waiting screen when I go from a map to another. Not all the time, but it never happened before 🤔
they need better management huh
I can't download the source document so take this steam post with a grain of salt, but the law in the EU was updated like 4 days ago and this seems to affect a lot of things about the game in general.
It's going off the base price, not counting if it's on sale or not. If that makes sense?
So you can still get the Pretty Protector one, but you may also get one that's on sale. It's just ... well, a gamble. It doesn't take sales into consideration
God i hope most games do this for the whole world instead of just the EU region
The issue is that the mystery gift is always supposed to grant something worth more than what the purchaser paid for the gift. If the gift turns out to be a sale item, that’s no longer true.
And under these new laws, im pretty sure the whole of the premium shop is gonna have to be overhauled. Being able to buy exact currency would be a game changer and eliminate the predatory coins in the "bank of this game" tactic
the issue was brought to the devs attention and we were told it was "working as intended" so....
Oh I saw, but that doesn’t make it any less of an issue for me lol
oh I'm just implying that it's intentionally done 
I agree, and it’s misleading at best. They even gave us an FAQ page and didn’t bother to mention sale items and how they would factor into the gifting system.
did I hurt someone's feelings? I don't wanna break any rules but I just saw my dms...
I apologize if I did, I don't feel like I said anything bad, but if I did I'd like to know so I can not say it again
I have no idea. I didn't see anything that seemed sus

From the bot?
Honestly though it's a bit hard to know what not to say nowadays but 
all i can say, is if you want to know and be sure, to contact modmail 
Discussions just collectively tiptoeing on eggshells 
Those twitch drops 
I stomp on eggs and eggshells /silly
(I had to say this bc it was a funny visual to me)
Wasn't like....just a few hours ago that a mod said that they'd be more transparent in chat about what's getting deleted, hence why that other message was left up briefly?
i'm so confused man
Yeah it should've at least told you what exactly you said was not constructive ~~(like in my case) ~~
Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs
/j
yeah it's cool, I'm gonna go do my adult chores now, no eggshells at my sink to wash dishes 😂 I'll message modmail later because I'd actually like to know what I said that was non constructive or hurtful
Hey at least we can climb onto Frogbert on the landscape.
There were no law changes or any other binding changes.
These „guidelines“ are recommendations and clearly state they aren’t legally binding (at least for now)
Like is it just me or are those the weakest twitch drops they've ever offered for this game? Before this there were at least decorations, potato pods, stuff like that
This one has potato pods & sticker packs.
#💬│palia-general message
(I just don't know what tier they are, because it doesn't properly say in the twitch drops screen.)
Also not saying they're good or great btw. Just showing what they have 
I find them lackluster.
Aside from the time they just gave worms?
We haven't had good twitch drops since the sandy cat
is the twitch drops from this patch even worth it?
15 Gold Bars, 3 Stciker Packs and 2 Potato Pods are good, Palium bars are fine, the rest is meh
The gold bars are good for people still plushie hunting
Free gold for lures, somewhat worth it to me
Idc about stickers and the potato pods are... eh.
eh so nothing really got it
Where is this light coming from?
aliens!
Ronaldo Nregory Gesus (previously known as Gregory)
skylights fr
that’d be cool
Parallel dimension where sky lights exist
Valid, I didn't see the potatoes just the glut of materials I don't need and can easily get in game 
We don't need to post datamines when S6 does it themselves LOL
Got done with my homework to a satisfactory amount today, and I have a half hour left in my work shift so I'm ready to waste some braincells. What did I miss?
Courier pet?
So valid. Like, I don't think the twitch drops are great. But i also dont like twitch drops, so... 
Not sure if anyone else has asked this but does anyone else also experience a lot of crashing since the update?? For me it’s crashed like four times in a row, I’m plying on switch and it just says something like “software was closed” it’s so frustrating so now I have to go to bed angry lol
I don't play on switch, but i have noticed some ppl mention it in tech-help and issues-discussions :(
I'm sorry, WHAT?
Yeah we don't know what it means yet
To clarify: it's just something that's in the UI. it doesn't do anything currently
sounds lovely that we might be able to send items to our home plot, so much loading
I'm just hoping it's free and not something that's paid.
It would be nice IF the pet is free
Hm okay then at least I’m not the only one!
The problem is that since it's pet related, it might not be free...
||i will be salty if it’s not|| 
we will all be salty
Since it's a pet, i'm betting paid. But i'm also on the fence since they know we will riot if it is
I definitely have a Concern about it
perfect reason to have 2 equipable pets, more sales
Yeah, this would be an egregious violation of a promise not to paywall in game features like that, but that also wouldn't surprise me
Bet you if they make it paid they'll try to introduce it at a "low" price to soften the blow. Like what I predicted they would with the mystery gifting
Agree, I'm hesitant to say it's not a promise already broken
Because yeah that'd be an undeniable cross into "p2w" territory no matter how minor. It'd go against the constant "only cosmetics" message they push and that couldn't be argued against
not really game play but cosmetics yea , not even a freebie to change it up for free players (could be even a basic landscape nothing fancy)
Yeah, several players have popped in to say the crashes have gotten worse on Switch. Which is interesting considering the patchnotes said they fixed some crashes.
Yeah, as it stands we have no idea what it's going to look like or how it's going to work, I just don't have a lot of faith
Technically, it is a promise broken. If we point this out, then I promise you they'll switch their statement to include something about "Premium Features" will be paid, but Basegame features will be free still
So far our speculation has been pretty on point
so if we get hit with the dodgeball of prophecies again...
I kinda hope the upcoming Switch 2 will help remedy this. Since the switch is trying to run a game originally meant for PC
I'm... Concerned.
stop playing dodgeball 
I imagine it'll run better on switch 2 but they'll still have to support the OG switch anyway
Yeah, which feels like even more reason for them to slack on updates TBH
omg lightmode
(kidding)
But yes, that does! I'll edit my image description/alt text in a previous image shortly. Thank you!
eehhh
True, true. I think the game might be better off technically if they didn't do the launch to the switch, but the switch launch did bring in a lot of players for the game
OMG no way they are having people watch for hours for 2x butter? LOL
Yeeeeah. It was a short term boost but in long term it's causing issues
Dang, economy is bad in my virtual game too. Did the bird flu hit my Pekis?
a single corn? really
Honestly, yeah. The game was not ready to move to another platform.
Sending you my medical bills for the flashbang /j
i got the most random urge to make brownies from the 2x butter LOL
yummy 
Youre fine! It was still helpful!
Do it, got the stuff at home to make brownies from scratch. Experimenting with the egg replacer
For those who are curious/want to know, these are what the (specific) rewards are in the twitch drops! (Thank you Ciri for the help!)
Watch for 1 hour:: 3x Sapwood, 2x Fabric, 5x Leather
Watch for 3 hours:: 2x Sugar, 2x Butter, 1x Egg, 1x Flour, 2x Sweetleaf, 1x Milk, 1x Corn, 5x Gold bars, 1x Series 1 Sticker Pack
Watch for 6 hours:: 5x Flow-infused Plank, 5x Palium Bar, 2x Potato Pods, 2x Series 1 Sticker pack, 10x Gold Bars
(copying pasting it here too)
Man, the bird flu really did hit the Pekis, 3 hours for one egg?
Tyyy
is there a recipe that uses those exact ingredients? it just seems weird to have a single corn plus the rest
The gold does sweeten the pot
i was thinking maybe cake but the corn throws me off
right like I'm confused, who came up with this drop and why in gawds name
Cornbread recipe when, S6? 👀
Petit Fives?
problem with hoping for the switch 2 is the fact that not everyone will be able to get it at release, so it may still take a year or two (if the game survives that long) to get the optimization to switch 2
ahem edited
Okay, yeah. It's the Petit Fives. Those are the incredients. The only thing missing is the "any fruit" from it.
That there are so many things in game we can't make ourselves is weird. Eggs? Milk? Sugar? Flour? Half of those are things we grow the crops for or forage for already, and the eggs could easily be incorporated into the ||silver wing tree.|| And why can't we help Naio out with the ormuu for milk?
Can corn be a fruit?
okay cool cause I was about to log on and check just to answer this haha
I don't think so, since the recipes says for 1 corn, and then 1 of any fruit
corn is technically a fruit in this world, but corn is needed for the recipie anyway so doesn't count
I meant as an IRL pondering
maybe cuz of whn they edited the quest? they took the fruit part out of that 
corn is not a fruit in palia tho
Oh did they? i was just looking at the wiki tbh. if they changed it (and i missed it) then it just didnt update yet, which is valid/fair 
I know that most plants are technically fruits since vegetables are a social construct
I sound like a dang conspiracy theorist...
yea you give things for reth to make a carrot cake or something now
But is a hot dog a taco
Is this update worth logging in for?
No
It would be fun to make those sugary drinks that we buy from the sewers with fruits and sweet leaf. Drinks and hot pot in sewers just makes my skin crawl. There's a lot in the game that seems strange.
but is hotdog and taco a sandwich? since the classic 1 piece of bread folded over is still a sandwich
Ohh, i see. so youre saying maybe it's to help with the quest
That tracks
yea
Where would Reth stand in the hotdog debate? would Hodari have a say? (to keep this on topic)
Gonna download the update quick and see what these crashes are about. Cuz someone said they can't even get into the game.
he’d make hotdog soup
Ah yeah, that would be a nice bonus
A taco is a taco, because of the tortilla. So it is separate from a hot dog and a sandwich.
That's just sliced hot dogs with beans in a bowl. Camper's stew.
We might make a new debate on what can and cannot be effectively made into soup-
Honestly? Not really. The builder items were kinda cool/neat, but the white screen that flickers between loading screens are still there (so if you are photosensitive, just a warning). The builder items and stuff also requires a lot of hardwood planks.
Would that be a soup or chillie?
So unless you are wanting to make an obstacle course or something (and you are still waiting for more than decor), i'd wait. 
not sure why you'd wanna... but GazeBridge™
Depends where you're from for what it's called and made of.
i’d probably get them but not make them 
And that's why I do it for you and show preview images 
I do like some of the pieces that we got from it. I just have no use for them currently, esp since I'd like to place some of them on their side, or at an angle, or against a wall :(
i like the stairs 👀
i like the stairs, but i also wish they weren't as wide (or have an option), and that i could angle it a bit more freely. Idk how to word this better ... but this is my issue with stairs in (most) games, not just palia, tbf
I would be more excited about builders items in general if we had more freedom without the need to glitch.
There are so many weird restrictions on what you can and can't do with decorations
very flexible...
Like why can't I put rugs on top of each other? Why do I have to glitch stuff out in order to overlap anything?
It's also super irritating that I can't I place crafters on builders blocks without them yeeting themselves to the front of my plot. Why would I want to use those to build if I'm not sure what I can place on top of them?
Man, it would be great if S6 can just ALSO post to Bluesky instead of JUST Twitter. Especially with how... well, it is.
I'll be honest, s6 is not the group I would expect to care about this. Even if I agree, and wish they would.
They have an official account! Just nothing get's posted!
Yeah, effective comms is not exactly s6's strongsuit
True, just tired of reading the blurbs from the social feed since I avoid Twitter, also I can't see anything anymore since I lost my log in info years ago
Last I logged in was to look at Pokemon Sun and Moon leaks lol
Yeah I deleted Twitter when it went full yahtzee
friends, sorry to interrupt the convo flow, i just wanna say a thanks for the fun times -- and the not so fun times, too XD i've made great friends in this discord and will always cherish many of you. keep fighting the good fight for those of us that no longer can!

Exactly! like two minutes of effort
Woah, hold on. What's up?
nothing mod related, i should clarify!!! i'm just leaving on my own accord <3
Oooh gotcha. Understandable. We're gonna blame the mods anyways lol
See you on the game, Ozma!
I am guilty of never asking people to be friends at all and leave it up to others to decide 
People are scary and rejection is upsetting 
Finally got to log on. Did anyone else seem to have a shrunken focus bar? It's still the same amount but it's tiny or my name got bigger lol. No more double tapping to change tools, finally. My pavers are normal. That's a relief.
And when I check my smelter, bricks and ores don't line up anymore. Boooo.
The cosmetic choices, dollette and daper extreme polarized outfits. No in between huh?
Hey.. Little ask.. Have anyone found gold ore since the update? 
I dont hate the dollete outfit since it appeals to my own fashion sense but... Considering we had already sent feedback to mods regarding the weird detailing in certain cosmetics and now this... Yeah I don't know what to say. I guess the S in S6 doesn't stand for subtlety (please don't bonk me I'm joking here)
When is Cheese introduced as a Subira/tamala romance gift ?
What is rue? 
it's just an herb
this book page reads like a joke book but for witchcraft 😂
i think it's a "witchcraft" book
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand what to do with this update. Like what am I supposed to use these new items for? Just seems really random lol
for your house plot lol its mostly for decorating while we wait for EW launch
Yeah maybe it's just not my thing lol 😅
and thats okay im on a perm hiatus from palia till ew launch
i only like the bouncy thing 
Your username is chef's kiss btw
its sad bc aside from the skirt sticking out rly weird (and the color scheme looking dusty and muted ingame 😓) i realllyyy love dollette
wait, we can't buy the googly eyes yet ?
thanks !
Yeah I hate they gave us another "flashing" outfit pretty much
Yes me too! Thought I was imagining things lol
Sooooo Just wondering. When will they add a box in town so that I can access the inventory I forgot at the house
it would also be okay w me if the skirt looked like it had built in shorts that actually matched the skirt :,,,) right now it looks like she's wearing navy blue undies which doesn't make sense w the outfit and doesn't provide any coverage for her.
like i think ruffly bloomers would give the cutesy coquette/dollette/sabrina carpenter thing they're going for and match the outfit nicely!!
man i keep talking about this silly outfit. i was so in love w the outfit at first and it just disappoints me that those little details (RUFFLE BLOOMERS ARE SUPER TRENDY RN) passed by s6
ope, sniped <33 sorry palcat, iddn't catch that LOL
Okey woops, sorry einar.
But I was saying I agree! Bloomers would've made it less... odd 
It is cute. It has some odd issues like the way it seems to flare out in odd places and bunch up around the waist? Is it supposed to look like it is ill-fitting?
We've no idea but 
anyone has a bug with worms ? Seems mine are never used
Not yet. I haven't tried. I need to now. I have a crashing issue at my house lol.
Infinite worm bug? Now this I could get behind
/j
i think they're never taken into account
Im not 100% sure, but I think this happened to me too😅 i only fished at the fish... rings? But I swear my worm count didn't go down/didn't get used lol
Not that I'm complaining 😌
no but i do have a bug where i can't use magic arrows, instead it always shoots off a firework
the lowest stack of worms is used
and the first stack of worms in ur ammo pouch is displayed (from bottom row to top row)
that's why it seems like worms are not used, but they are just used from another stack
there is one firework arrow that has a similar icon to the dispel arrows, that would be the reason most likely 
oh lmao im gonna have to check
just curious but did you check to make sure it wasn't that type of firework arrow that looks like dispel arrows? these ones?(they're right next to a stack of dispel arrows in this screenshot, just a slightly different highlight color)
omg thats probably it. Thats kinda silly.
I always wondered what was up with those tbh 
i didnt even realize those existed 😂
ah yeah didn't see i had another 20-ish stack aside my full stack of wurms
I hate that they look so similar to the dispel arrows. I just wanna hunt for plushies not shoot a firework at them
I'm sure this has already been talked about, but does anyone else feel like the way the outfits are put together just doesn't make sense 🤡
I just want hair and hats to be two separate things with the paid outfits, and shoes, pants and socks aswell. It really bugs me that it gets clumped together🥲
I dont even remember where they came from tbh, I threw them in my storage when I realized they had a confusing icon and ignored them since then lol
I think I got mine from Twitch drops but same. I just used them in the Maji Market to get rid of them and get the achievement quick.
yeah i wish they were all seperate pieces. Even to buy. Like the special hairstyles should be for individual purchase and then also have a bundle option to purchase everything together.
It just seems weird to give us customisation options, but then not let us separate pieces, it's one of the main reasons I haven't bought any outfits, it just seems... limited? In a weird way.
i would love if they simply added different shoe options. Also, why aren't there more free skirts?
Yet remember when they gave us stickers for "more customisation options"? Yeah. (I know people had been asking for stickers for accessibility options but this is how they announced them).
I'm still so bothered by that. like
people wanting customization weren't happy.
people wanting accessibility re: quickchat weren't happy.
no one who was asking for those things were satisfied!!
again, the free options also don't have black or pink colorways at all.
It would be more accessible if you could read what each sticker was when on the wheel lol😭
And putting "sorry" behind a paywall 
S6 really said we gotta pay to apologise /hj
It's too late now to say sorry 😞 (unless you pay a small fee🤓👆)
i've been thinking about figuring out how much the premium store offerings outnumber the free options, bc s6 said that it definitely would, but we've gotten no updates.
also they promised a free catalog that people would be happy with... not happy. not a happy camper w the catalog
@warm python Sorry Rel, I don't make the rules 
Palcat already answered, I see, but yeah. you got 20 of them from twitch drops
Who designed this? Tom Nook?
Ty for replying too Ori! I wasn't entirely sure tbh 
Plus, we know how easy it is to just simply reskin something based on the rate they release premium cosmetics. Why not add a few free things each patch? Even if it's just 1 outfit or a new hairstyle..like SOMETHING is better than nothing.
also if i struggle with replying to messages (as in, someone already answered and i am just repeating), i apologize. this new discord ui is awful and is making it hard for me to keep track of the convo 
Ofc! Apparently you can get 5 of them from a quest too? (thank you palia wiki) 
this one still really bothers me
why does discord keep "fixing" things that don't need to be fixed
yeah, idek how long it's been since a free cosmetic update. was it the hair one?
I had to afk for a moment so I saw your answers at about the same time
thanks for the confirmation
Yep... Because clearly nothing screams customisation like... emotes
I wouldn't have minded them so much if they weren't advertised and implemented the way they were.
yeah i think so
you know why Rel... it's in the name /j
It's honestly an accessibility nightmare (for me, at least! i need 125 zoom and 20px font, or i cant read bc text too tiny). It's just.
I see so little messages on screen now, so im just like "i see... nothing" 
and the stickers too..most of them aren't even really useful. I think I use the "Thank you" one and thats about it. The stickers are cute but its hard to just use them to communicate like they should be used for.
Stickers are cute in concept, but I still don't like how they were executed, at all.
Not to forget the fact some of them don't convey what they're supposed to at all... Like Subira's (?) emote that's meant to mean "follow me" looks more like a "come at me" emote 
The stickers and emote wheels just feel really clunky, like slapping a bandaid on the problem
is there anyone that plays on PC with a controller, where every 5 mins or so the controller randomly vibrates and you can't do anything in the game for like 5 secs?
I will say, it was funny earlier, when I redeemed a sticker pack... it gave me the "Seriously?" .. i was just like .. "Yep, that feels/sounds about right." 
This will be big once they add PVP
Not to mention how much the stickers remind me of the ones in League which are more used for... fun and chaos. But you can also earn most of them (if not all) for free 
Palia PvP meta gonna be wild
I also don't understand why they added an rng element to the stickers, who are meant for accessibility and ease of communication... (I'm joking I know why they did it 🙂)
We already had PvP in the game, it was the snowball flashbangs (I'm joking but still bothered that was a thing
)
I just wish stickers weren't attached to quick chat. I know it's how I feel personally, but it just felt... like making quick chat, and accessbility, in a way that's "Cutesy" or "childish" in some ways... which just rubbed me the wrong way, personally.
If they wanted quick chat, I wish they would of just... actually went with quick chat and made it more than it is currently.
Could have so easily been resolved if they gave everyone a starter pack that contained actual useful stickers, then the rest of them could be rng
Y'all better not challenge me, I still have some 👀
/Joke
It made it feel like "quick chat", for QoL and ease/accessibility, almost half-baked? idk how to word it properly. But it just felt off. I was hoping when/if they added quick chat, it'd be more... than it is. (I forgot the word i meant to say.)
Like, genuinely, stickers are cute. Cute idea to collect-- but I wish it was tied to something different.
Not really PvP exactly, but you can have Shoots and Ladders, Checkers, Chess, and even a timed obstacle course now on your plot.
I have all of the above, so feel free to visit if you want to try any of them out 🙂
(The last one is in space too.)
Yep. Pretty much. They tried to tackle two problems with one solution but only made both systems feel completely half baked and just as another means for monetisation.
Imagine my surprise when I bought the cute chess board thinking it would be cute to put on my table, only for it to be a gigantic tarp
(notorious for not reading descriptions lol)
seriously? I just bought that thing last week and haven't used it yet. I thought the same thing.....😂
Lol for that I recommend the Kilima Inn Chezuu game, as that is small decor for a table.
There's a chess like table in the kilima collection
Yep - Kilima Inn Chezuu game 🙂
Whoops someone beat me to it
You can make checkers or chess even with a bit of creativity.
im actually kinda excited to make something now lol
Check out my plot if you want to see what you can make with the boards 🙂
is your plot on the tour board?
No, but I can put it on there for this week.
i'd love to check it out!
Sure! Can also just visit me.
Alright - put it up for this week if you want to see it in tours.
we have literally 0 Free Costume Options which is Tragic
The boards are inside my gaming fortress, though it was originally a maze so you may get a little lost haha.
silly question, but are all of the landscape plot areas the same size? I've been working on a new plot on the Dragon landscape and it feels like the workable area is way smaller for some reason..
Well, there was the "time limited" switch release outfit but... they also decided to just monetise that one now 
I think they are all the same size in terms of workable space, but some landscapes have more in the background than others.
Hmm ok, must be the illusion of it then
I'm hoping the ew update will have some added free customisation, but it might be a lot to ask of it.
i will forever be sad by this, because i never realized or known it was time limited and i missed it :(
Same with froggy bucket..
I like free drops for games in theory, but it just adds another level of fomo that just makes me a bit sad.
How did you not get lost building this?!
I knew it was limited time but it didn't occur to me to try asking someone I know with a Switch to claim it for me which
yeah, I regret it now.
And if someone wants to argue "well now it's accessible for everyone", it's moreso how they toe the line with their promises on monetisation and FOMO.
Haha it's actually pretty straightforward once you know the pattern, but it's easy to get lost initially. (I wanted to build more too but I reached the limit.)
is there a reason for some of the random chest to be covered in a oversized snowball?
I swear every patch makes things worse.
just things that shouldn’t show up, show up, like the green cylinders last year 
Hello, Has anyone been able to fine a way around the crashing?
I am able to get in sometimes, but I crash the second I get to a loading screen
I am sending reports everytime I crash
switch player?
yeah, seems like a lot of people have been complaining about crashing on the switch version over in the switch zone. don't think there's much that can be done about it. not sure why pc would be crashing though, pc usually better with that
Could it be because I have my account linked?
I see twitch streamers are already advertising giving outfits away
Lol
as expected 
(should have been a bingo square
)
great way to get people to watch and subscribe to the streamer, i guess
still can't believe that they did mystery outfits instead of just letting people buy a friend an outfit that they would actually want
The devs really need to put their brain noodles together and realize what they are doing isn't gonna give them the revenue they want.
If you give people the ability to gift outfits they want to friends (not random), actually give some type of earnable free cosmetics (the googly eyes should have been a twitch drop) giving a april fools item isnt gonna kill your game for giving it for free. But only offering everything for cash grab will. I cannot think of a single game that doesnt have some type of free cosmetics during events or holidays,
yeah, everything under premium shop with nothing earnable for f2p players is just going to alienate them from the game. why do anything in it if you can't show it off?
and not saying that everything should be given to us. i mean that you can keep all the flashy outfits to the premium shop, but let us have some not so flashy outfits for free
or introducing a new pet, give us the most basic color (beige for example) then make the cooler color variants skins for the pet in the premium shop
As much as we pay for cash shop outfits I think we should have 1) the option to buy things piecemeal and 2) toggleables on every effect for every outfit so people with accessibility concerns can also enjoy them.
Its not like they havent given cosmetics before as twich drops either, the palcat glasses were an early twitch drop.
So the googly eyes should have been. Its not gonna kill them to have a few meme or simple items to earn or give out. The twitch drops since daybreak took over last year have been lackluster (thanks for the worms i guess
).
Also allowing people to buy pieces of outfits based on a similar tier system like bugs have (epic, common, uncommon etc) would give them more revenue overall cause people would buy what they actually want.
i feel the same, jina and hekla keep disapearing
there's another game that shall not be mentioned here that every update has been giving 3 new outfits for free, just have to log in and claim them once they become available. also, been giving another outfit for completing tasks that open up over the course of a couple days. and it's still making bank. giving a handout to f2p players won't break your game
wouldn’t you prefer to purchase the exact same pet you’ve already bought for the same amount (or more, or less, idr) of monies as the original, just with a hat tho?
I just got the builders asset kit, I am sad that we don't get any of the cool foliage that you see around Kilima- like the spiral shrubs, bushes, etc. I don't care so much about bridges and mining stuff but that I would have gone buckwild with
Oh my god don't get me started
the woes were kinda funny, considering you can just… not reel a fish in and still get it…
worms*
although…
yeah, don't start with that. that should have been a new skin, or open an option for being able to put clothes on the pets (also, missed opportunities that that's not a thing yet)
"we heard you want more recolors... heres a Single new one in the year and half the game has been out"
I still have people arguing with me about this game being cash grabbish even after that, they could have done literally anything else. Like make a whole separate thing for pet accessories or make them holiday themed skins.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's not about wanting to play dress up for "free", It's about having no way to visually show accomplishments/progression through your character.
and i totally agree with you, even game that shall not be named at least allows you to post pictures in game that you took that have the style you're wearing showing off you preferred sense of style, even if you can't (currently, maybe?) play with other players
The only approach they have done thats sensible is the sales option for cosmetics. Everything else could have been more fledged out in a way that works instead of being all over the place. Like having the option to buy a hat for your pet like sylva mentioned.
Technically there is, but only through nameplates (and trophies if you count that).
which nameplates are tied to non story progression/plot votes? /gen like did they come out with ones associated with your leveling up in skills and i missed it?
Most nameplates are directly associated with the maximum number of votes your plot received in a week actually (and is correspondingly an achievement that you can show off).
Nameplates:
Plot votes, Achievement for visitng a lot of plots, tour tickets, maji tickets, lucky envelopes, and the story one.
Yeah, and it honestly is... not great. Like it was a step in the right direction (with nameplates, in general), but ... having it via plot votes (that are not accumulated over time), just... feels bad, for me, at least personally
Trophies don't count, they're isolated to your housing plot, others aren't going to see those unless they go out of their way to visit your place.
I want to see visual character growth, a way to represent what you've earned and accomplished through your character, not a plot of land.
Nameplates are.... sort of getting there, but they're so few in number, and the ones for getting a lot of votes in home tours I disregard because those are not actually earned through gameplay in my eyes- in 99.9% of cases, you "earn" those through activities outside of the game, eg asking for vote trading in discord or social media.
I heard some rumors about at least some form of co-op in the works.... not sure if/when but if true......
I don't even bother with it tbh lol.
Yeah a lot of it has to do more with advertising than the quality of the plot, but there have been exceptions.
To describe it a bit further:
Imagine that you play with two friends.
You love mining. You want to show off your love for mining with, say, a miner's outfit.
Your first friend loves bug catching. They want to show off their love for bug catching through their character, too.
Your second friend loves fishing, and wants to show off their love for that by wearing a fishing themed outfit.
there is NO way for one to actually look more like their "job" through gameplay.
All three of you are stuck wearing the same set of generic default clothes, with no way to ever progress your character's visual appearance through actual gameplay.
In an RPG, this would be the equivalent of having a party consisting of a knight, a mage, and a thief all stuck wearing the default level 1 outfit(s) with no way to ever advance beyond that visually. No way for the knight to wear armor without paying cash. No way for the mage to get robes and a wizard hat without paying cash. No way for the thief to get some cool stealthy looking garb without paying cash.
They're all stuck looking like a level 1 newbie unless they pay up- There's no visual progression to be earned. It's all paid. 😔
I can see where you are coming from, though people can technically still specialize in a skill, even if not shown in character.
(Though then again perhaps you are thinking of other games like Runescape where you can profit off of said specialization.)
i disagree that number of plot votes is an achievement, considering the implementation.
Unfortunately you can't specialize :/ The game forces you to engage with every skill because there's no trading
It's a weak correlation - can understand your point of view.
(source: me a disabled person who is locked out of a bunch of content within the game because it requires the fishing skill)
Palia definitely rewards you for being a generalist more than being a specialist.
but they can't visually show that they specialized in that skill, other than thru furniture
Yep, that's a fair point.
That's the problem though.
You can focus in a skill you enjoy, but there is zero way to show that you prefer that skill as a playstyle, or even that you engage in it at all.
You can't show it off visually, you can't sell goods or even gift without someone else requesting first, and you can't even see peoples' levels.
A game can get by without cosmetic visual progress if there is meaningful stat progression. If a player is a level 100 miner, and this is visible information, then it doesn't matter so much if they don't look like one.
Palia does not have meaningful stat progression, and what little it does have isn't visible to anyone else, so the only form of showing off what you earned is cosmetic.
I woiuldn't say rewards. If you don't do some skills you're locked out of content - you just literally can't specialize unless you want to miss out on half the content and get hardlocked /gen
Yeah, those are valid points. There's a reason why I jokingly call Palia a housing simulator at this point haha.
Fair point - perhaps not the greatest design considering that aspect of the game.
yeah, and as someone who suffered thru fishing the rewards are pretty awful :,,) i did the vault thingies and yeah just was rly disappointed
and that's the core point I'm trying to make: If you aren't a fan of home-decor-as-only-endgame, palia has, effectively, nothing of interest for you to earn or work towards in the game. All the cosmetics that could have made great goals to chase, and give people reasons to play, are instead shoved into the cash shop.
kinda like how if you want to do all of the quests and get all the decor from said quests you have to romance all of the npcs, even if you don't care for the npc
Even a someone who primarily enjoys building in games, building in Palia is so restrictive and frustrating. Specially requiring to glitch so many things to achieve something that should be doable.
It wouldn't be so bad if they had some way to optionally get rid of the fishing minigame but they don't seem to want to make it easier or add any way for players to help each other so /gen
Tbh, had I told my past self that Palia is really housing decor end game, I probably would have never gotten into it lol.
I originally tried Palia out for very different reasons than why I still play it now.
not to negate the point you’re making, but i think the only romance-related decor is the portraits of the NPCs themselves? i actually understand why they made it that way tbh. i think only friendship quests have exclusive furniture.
||i still don’t love that i had to talk to hassian all the time just to get a neat chandelier, sorry not sorry hass fans.||
||subira romance and i think another have romance blocked decor too ||
It's funny cause on paper I should love Hassian considering I love Shane from SDV. But Hassian just comes across as a brooding teen. Shane gets progressively friendlier as you befriend him, not just if you romance him.
And I think someone mentioned it here before but I could be wrong, that there are 2 furniture items that are locked behind romance? Don't quote me on that though.
Yes, thank you, I couldn't recall but I was sure someone mentioned it.
o rly? i know the ||hodari and hass|| stuff isn’t placeable. is subarus the ||heart drop looking flower?||
Would be great if someone can confirm just to be sure though 
yea and there’s another ||i wanna say tamala but i seen reths name ||so i’m not sure atm and can’t check
Subaru omg
(not making fun of the typo btw, just the visual of subira being a Subaru is so funny to me)
Oh right. I romance Reth. I completely forgot about that.
||jina|| and ||subira|| both give decor that's not their portrait for romance
aah ok
i speedran that friendship and romance (||tamala||) cos i was out of content. if there was any furniture other than the ||perfume-looking bottle|| associated, i skipped over it, along with… literally everything 
||i think a placeable dry herb thingy but i cnod be wrong||
I dont mind there being little mementos if you romance a certain villager but I can understand that it's annoying if you want a certain one but you don't want to romance anyone or that villager in particular.
On that note it's also really annoying || Hodaris quiche isn't placeable. I accidentally ate mine
||
that’s terribly annoying and goes against what iirc they said they were going for with romance lines in the game? (that they wouldn’t lock you out of anything if you didn’t want to partake.)
honestly shocked about ||jina||, wasn’t ||jina|| romanceable before ||hodari|| was?
(
im willing to entertain the possibility that im misremembering that stuff from my first paragraph.)
also yes i think so cuz ||hodari|| was a little after it opened beta
Yeah she was.
||Hodari became romanceable after.||
wasn't it because people were upset that he wasn't romanceable in the first place?
||hass’s sandwich isn’t either, which is why i said i understand why they implemented it that way when i thought there was no decor locked behind romancing, since it would force ppl to romance chars for the items. alas.||
also
||is subira’s romance item the congee? bc mine was never placeable and i still angy if that’s what it is
||
that’s what i remember. i meant i was possibly misremembering them ever promising no content/decor was locked behind romancing.
ye gods it's like I'm going through a redacted document/playing Control
which is why i referred to my first paragraph specifically
|| it's still kinda dumb because it just makes it kinda useless, and specially so if they already have furniture locked behind romance, it's like... So arbitrary||
||And nope I think the congee is from when you first meet her? But not from the romance iirc, I did never place mine though ||
||no subira's is the Lily Vase at level 4 romance, Jina's is the Potted Briar Daisies at level 2
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It's all [redacted]
||you’re funny, bright, and i always value your input in any conversation i find myself participating alongside you in.||
Rel omg
You can't just say that I'm gonna cry now!!! 
Einarbot got mad at me for yelling that
||never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down||
ah i remembered subira’s correctly then. literally do not remember ||jina’s|| item lmao. it’s probably sitting somewhere on my plot 
as soon as I hit enter I was like "oops"
Should've added (in all caps) at the end 
was tryna make the influx of spoiler more palatable (and end my streak of apparently getting stuff wrong in spoilered text
)
i agree with that first part. either make romance-related furniture all placeable or not placeable (preferably the latter, esp if you’re gonna claim to be an inclusive game.)
ah i see. ||my fren placed their congee and i’s like, i can’t place any i make on my plot even though its star quality?? and i member them telling me it was from stinkers and me being
like, why i cant place mine tho
||
oml
subira *
just can’t seem to get away from autocorrect with her name 
Yeah again, I wouldn't mind a little memento but I get why it's frustrating if you either don't want to romance anyone or certain villagers 
|| oh that's odd
I haven't tried placing mine so I guess I'll check that out if I log in. I know you can make congee after too but I can't recall if you could place those||
I find it baffling that you can't freely trade things
Its not like we are competing against each other. There is no winning.
So many things seem so serious for such a casual game
Yup. Along with the constant nerfs to any sort of solo moneymaking, it makes for a frustrating experience.
the congee that subira gives are all non-starred. just save them or eat them. and the congee we make is plain, no toppings
Like oh no someone might hand out too many fish and ruin the fish economy except all stores have infinite money and money is also basically just another crafting item for your house
This will affect the trout population
isn’t very inclusive to lock stuff behind romance cos, yknow, aro ppl exist. and istg i saw smth from the official site that said they wouldn’t do that! idk :c
||when i last played, stuff made at campfire wasn’t placeable. otherwise id have fisherman’s brew and grilled fish placed all around! i’d love to be wrong tho||
Oh okey, thank you for clarifying 🩷 maybe meeks friend confused it with something else but I'm not certain
Palia: Coorperation is key, be friendly and help eachother
Also Palia: Not like that
Like I said, I can understand that too (just clarifying again)
|| yeah I recall that too, I wouldn't know honestly
||
stuff at campfire is still not placeable, neither are your preserve jars
But yeah all the nerfs and lack of trading because of a nonexistent economy is wild
istg they had a congee placed in their house i remember asking about it and being so mad when they told me (it was the… oyster-topped looking one? tbh my monitor is v small so i was squinting.)
i can go ask even tho they haven’t played in months.
I can try load the game to confirm, it'll just take me some half an hour lol
Even RuneScape has trading 
It’s not like it’s difficult to code or it’s a new concept, they just don’t wanna and I don’t understand
Runescape has a full blown economy, to the point the gold in game is even more valuable than some irl currencies.
I know people say trading would also bring a lot of issues like gold selling and stuff but it's not like we haven't already gotten problems from the current "trading" system 
who care though the money isn't real
Right and if they were truly worried about problematic irl transactions, they wouldn’t have added mystery gifting 
maybe its this one. out of the possible congees
The positives outweigh the negatives
Online games will always have goldsellers tbh it's just a fact, but trading would help so many people that like... It's a good tradeoff
You took the words right out of my mouth 
Yeah, this was the one we were referring to, thank you for checking it out! 🩷
yea, i probably put my starred one down somewhere on my food encyclopedia table and forgot about it. so yes, we have 1 and only 1 starred congee...everything else is non starred
I really forgot congee was made at the grill too cause.. I thought it was made at a stove.
omg it must’ve been this
why did they make placeable congee so exclusive 😭
(i also did ask them before seeing that, lol.)
lol its about as annoying as the food at maji market. i dunno how many of them i bought before i got a starred one.
I got a starred black egg congee from her a long time ago, can't remember what exact quest it's from tho
I wish palia would do something along the lines of what stardew valley did, and introduce a character or two that provides the same benefits/rewards of romancing, without actually being romance.
||krobus is the best roommate but I'll stop there before I get bonked for off topic||
spoilered cos other quests are mentioned
but don't the friendship quests do much the same?
The builder stuff is giant how are you supposed to use this stuff lmao
I logged in to check anyways and yep, there it is! (spoilering just in case)
Glad they finally fixed the bloom lanterns too, at least 
yup, only one congee out of everything
Romancing gives you pins, substantially changes NPC dialogue as well IIRC
Granted, romance is relatively barebones as a feature atm, but if it gets developed further it could wind up being a sticky topic if exclusive rewards related to, say, progression start getting locked behind it
why
mine
not
placeable
it’s a conspiracy 
i dunno how the devs would proceed with it, currently you aren't stuck with romancing just 2 chars anyway, so you can do all of them or potentially miss out on some of the decor items/stuff they give you. me, i just want every stuffs lol
Let meeks place their congee 2025
imo, don’t lock anything behind romancing except the portraits (i’m good with the portraits being locked behind it tbh, it does allow a player to show they completed it/that they care for specific chars). it excludes ppl from obtaining decor items if they don’t want to participate in romancing if you block those items otherwise tho.
It's more that it would be a nice alternative for aro/ace people who are not interested in romancing. Like I said before, I personally don't mind it but I understand people who do or want an alternative.
A way they possibly could've done this would've been if you decided to pursue a character romantically or just have a platonic relationship like Stardew Valley did with one NPC. Just so the option is there for everyone.
it's not about how many you can romance, it's about the potential worry that people could potentially be "forced" to romance in order to progress in the future, even if they don't want to pursue romance, so an option for a more platonic relationship should be provided if it does wind up have some kind of progression tied to it
off-topic example: ||you have to marry in stardew in order to get one of the starfruits, but when you 'propose' to krobus you're basically just proposing that they move in with you as a best-friend-roommate and not a spouse, but krobus will give you a starfruit just like a spouse would||
Should just have a yellow version of the heart flower to be like the bff flower
that’s interesting 
woah sidenote my discord updated and what happend to my ui 😭
Say like, instead of giving a ||box of chocolates or a heardrop lilly||, you can give a "platonic"/"friendship" version of the Heartdrop one (like Az mentioned) but the quests remain similar with some dialogue changes and such. Could've been inclusive to all.
same, i hate it 
Someone turned off the lights.
the housing took the power
This was only for like 15-10 seconds
I just opened the chat and am greeted by palia noir
who's dissapearance are we gonna solve?
Anyway has anybody made parkour courses yet?
I can't seem to find where to buy the sandbox items or the recipes for the new Builder's set?
I went to all the shops, couldn't see them... are they in the game yet?
think they're at siffu's cash register in kilima
House tour sign for sandbox
Thank you! found it. What about the 3 sandbox items? Patch Notes Say the Housing Store Store?
that kinda sounds like tish's furniture guild, but not sure. i haven't played in about 6 months
ya, already checked Tish and her register, and city hall, not at those places
Check that green sign on your hosing plot
ok thank you
but then i’d go around giving everyone bestie flowers
actually i love that make it happen, s6!
I thought the Max Payne remakes were still a little while off!
oh, gotta go for a bit, new update in game that shall not be named just went live
are we detectives now? cos… there’s apparently someone from ||bahari bay|| running loose we should prolly prioritize looking into… 
It's me, I'm running loose.
I was just about to log onto FFXIV but YOU'RE RIGHT--
so.. it should be 40 house tour tickets for the recipe NOT just the item that’s kind of dookie
I just saw the recipe of the paltech radio and wall recipe in the underground market.
Yoinking this emote though 
jump into this life~(in all caps)
the call is coming from inside the house. help us all 
im off to go play too haha i love the music!
Time to get terrorized by long momo once these resources finish checking
be back later, friendos <3
Long Momo isn't real, it can't hurt you /j
Hope you have fun Rel!
I found out earlier! I was completely thrilled!
was koi pond fixed?
good question
What's wrong with the Koi pond besides it has no water when not places on grass. Just like the Well.
a dev came on last month and said it’d be fixed with this patch, so hopefully it is! (this doesn’t happen to every koi pond, idk which ones are affected and which ones aren’t.)
unless that’s what you mean by it “not having grass”?
was just hoping someone could verify if the koi void is still present (def not a bug id prioritize, but it was mentioned as one that would be fixed this patch, so… curious!)
My Koi Void is gone!

how about the paltech recipes?
i hear those are in the UG now, at least!
Recipes Now available at Zeki's Black Market Store.
for those missing the
- Paltech Radio recipe
- Paltech Wall Lamp recipe
Seems to me that every chest I already collected became like this
It's palia, it's a bug
Quick ! Catch it before it flies away #
I can confirm after testing that the crashes on Switch have gotten worse since the update. No matter how long I wait outside my housing plot for Kilima to load, it will still crash if I go into town or towards the waterfall area. the only way for me to get into Kilima is to let the game crash and then reload it, and it'll spawn me at the stable.
What a bottom-of-the-barrel patch. "Hey guys, what are the easiest build thingies for us to put out there? "Oh, all our bridge crap and maybe some mining trash? All one color and no mods." "Yeah but that stuff is huge, and could eat up the whole plot." Not our problem. You make it; we'll sell it." "Well, we could call it an obstacle course, add a couple of widgets like a bouncer and timer." "There you go. Now run along and get it done asap. We've got outfits, landscapes and pets to sell."
honestly everytime i enter or exit any building that causes a load screen i crash.. really hope they fix it soon its so annoying
Im confused, do I need paylia to play buglia or is the buglia dlc standalone?
I just noticed the glowing rocks. I keep thinking someone is mining really close, then realizing they aren't blinking like they are going to disappear. 
Omg… pavers ARE fixed. That was so annoying 🤣 I didn’t even notice they were fixed
I am on PC and have crashed so many times I cant count... moving from one area to another means restarting the game.... it is horrible
I'm starting to wonder if they're stress testing the game ahead of Elder Woods. because this update didn't even add much (at least that we can see) and it's breaking the game.
if they are they should let players know to expect the issues -_-
there is definitely a lot of elderwood work going on in the background with some things that shouldn’t break, breaking
e.g. bundle interaction, chests etc.
I was wondering the same thing because what thy added cannot possibly strain the game so much that we can barely play.... for now I gave up playing because I am getting frustrated...
CRASH, CRASH, CRASH. I guess that it what we are playing now since the update? Can't stay on longer than 4 minutes without getting an error and the client closing.
They obviously broke something that was not broken before the update...
I don't think anyone playing have not crashed several times...
Hopefully they will patch a fix soon...
Well hopefully the planned "hot fix" after every update happens soon then.
I played for around 8 hrs, just logged off a lil bit ago and I only crashed maybe 2 times, guess I was lucky?
Yeah happens to me too, though I haven't tested it too many times just yet.
Well TBH you should have crashed at all.
Eh, my computer is older so I don’t really get surprised if it does happen.
I also play FiveM often, that crashes WAY more for me than Palia… I’m built for this lol
Not something that I will get used too... you have a lot of patience...
Palia is honestly unoptimized. Some people with even stronger PCs can get crashes, lags, stutters, etc. It just happens. (not saying it's good or alright, moreso trying to say that it's common
)
I’d share the patience if I could lol
Lol well tbf, the giant tracks could be used in the new landscape as a race track potentially (maybe with plushies in the background watching even).
Thank you very much...
Yes. And the weirdness with the smelter having extra slots now, the courier bag, the reset focus bars, etc.
So sad, the bridge pieces don't align properly when snapped and the poles don't connect when you try to group move, plus with only one snapping point you can't make a nice dock or porch
Smelter having extra slots?
AND par for the course you can't color them so everyone's plot will look the same.
That so? Haven't tried connecting them yet.
My smelter ores/bricks don't line up anymore, my interpretation of this is because there is an "extra slot" in the smelter for an ore type that may be coming. Used to, when you had ore and brick of each type, they lined up on top of each other. Now they don't. Could also simply be a visual error too.
I will exchange the new building pieces in a heartbeat for glass walls and floors....
There is a single snapping point (yellow circle) but using it the pieces are still misaligned a little to the left. You can move it manually but like....not the point lol
I have 3 slots. Do you have more?
How can there be any more bugs, I always thought we caught all of them in the bug event last year?
At least npc nearly don't clip anymore into my loan's soil
Oohhh do npc are come right side up to your plot now?
I think they have troubles swimming up to the surface (I hope none of them will drown on my land ...)
Is it possible to turn off glowing rocks ?
The glowing rocks is a new side effect, much like the snowball chests. I don't think S6 does any testing when they release updates.
Getting those cash shop items out is more important!
The googly eyes zrnt' even available !
☝️ going to be available April 1st per the patch notes
Okay I am struggling. Where is the housing store to buy the new recipes!? I go to Tish’s spot and I don’t see them there.
It's the Home Tour Store, at the home tour board on your plot
And if you're looking for the builder set pieces (like the bridge, rails, etc), that's at the anvil/register in Sifuu's shop / blacksmith
Oh duh… thank you for that!
youre welcome! it's also 40 tickets per decor piece from there
Ok this one on me I can't read
It is unfortunate for those on the switch or low to mid end computers to be FORCED into home tours that are by and large maxed out on clutter; which in turn maxes out aforementioned machines. Looks like a pass on the shroom jump decor...this game isn't worth the risk to my system. Just being forced into home tours for jukeboxes nearly ruined my graphics card but it did burn out one cooling fan. Besides Enshrouded has way better shrooms to jump on lol can set that game way down on easy few enemies and at the end of the several quests to get all musical instruments and set down with your friends and play the music sheets as a group lol
I’m pretty new to Palia, but anyone know how I can do home tours?
through green board next to ur plotexit 
btwww i checked and the top is actually pretty nice with other stuff!
It is but it's a shame the skirt is a tad too short 
that's nice at least. Still not a huge fan sadly, though. If i could buy pieces, maybe. but at this point, i dont think i'd spend money on the game anyways 
i was reading through patch notes and i noticed with every update that they nerf the difficulty for quests over time: materials needed from high level to easier acquired, completing quest requirements getting more lenient…etc and it makes me think its reducing the payoff and learning for palia? idk if im being too weird about it but it feels like there wouldnt be a need to get those resources or learn from the quests to get higher results anymore bc its not needed. i understand its better for new players, especially at the time it was frustrating but the reward after felt accomplishing. has anyone else thought this or just me thinking too into it?
so do you think that since they did some QOL fixes to Subira and the prologue quests, will they be able to actually have subira walk around and have a schedule soon?
Thank you!!
i wish we could buy stuff separately 😦
So uh I'm hearing that meat in cooking has been replaced by crabs? 🤔
i know that some players need to unlock her, but couldn't they try and make instances of Palia that are available with Subira having her schedule or something?
you can still use meat, as far as im aware, but crabs can be used..?
Yeah they said just the icon is... a crab now lol
I've seen other games do something similar (like OSRS) but idk how it works in Palia
guess we'll have to wait
I honestly would't know. I didnt test some other stuff, because i didnt think to ... plus i ended up with a headache from all the constant white screen/flashes 😄
so i knew i had to close the game
i agree, also, it's not like it was very hard before (': I'm not a huge fan of baby-difficulty tbh, and palia is easy enough for them to nerf quest requirements every other patch 😦
I mean in part it's good because it means they're at least listening to part of the feedback players were giving in regards to certain quests, but like you said, barely anything feels really rewarding in this game and there are little to no ways to show your accomplishments.
yeah it has been a really long time since i actually did the early game quests and stuff. kinda wish adding a second character on my account could be an option
It would be nice if they implemented a system similar to what Star Rail has done for some bosses, which is a casual mode that makes the boss slightly easier but you still get rewards and to progress. But idk how they'd implement something like that in Palia 
WC's influence most likely!
I wanted to make a joke but 
It displays a caution warning if you try to cook the dish without having crabs, but then works as intended after starting the recipe.
that'd be nice but i feel like they'd have a bit of a hard time deciding if premium stuff would be shared between characters of the same account or not. In games like ff14, some of the items are, but others, you have to buy twice to have them on both characters
I rmember the requirement for a ruby for Tish's final quest. It's almost impossible to get. I was happy when they changed it to a aquamarine. Quests shouldn't be requiring rng to fulfill them
yeah i noticed it first when they changed the ruby required for tish’s quest to something else like aquamarine i think. i agree but honestly i think they should fix the rng system a bit more than it being just patience. that would probably help with the high level materials needed for the more difficult quests but i understand its for QoL
nah i think premium stuff like outfits and friends lists would be shared on an account basis. extra characters are simply there for the sake of being able to experience the questlines again and make different choices
I'd be more okay with it if they actually allowed trading / a player market of some sorts. 😦
yeah i would love to have a furniture trade system, or better yet, being able to sell it. at least there's a gifting feature but sadly it doesn't work with starred items
Yep. It's like they'll say "we'll make these quests easier but not address our inflated RNG".
Also doesn't work with items you haven't personally collected before either which is just... terrible
me too honestly, and i didnt want to sound too negative about it but it does feel very babyfied rather than a helping guide to fix the actual difficulties like rng and star quality leniency rather than just straight up nerfing the quests 😅
In case they're not shared: more characters = more money for them... Idk what to think at this point tbh haha
It's one of the major reasons I quit, I hate fishing in this game and it's basically a requirement for the bundles.
I really want to make that joke but uhhhh... I don't wanna get bonked
if only fishing was more accessible
like, genuinely. I really wish it was more accessible in a few ways. I used to be able to fish more, or at all, but my hands have gotten worse overtime... so now fishing is just. not possible. I'd much prefer if there was a toggle of sorts
It'd also be nice if it could potentially let you move around a bit, during, as well. Because some people feel restless & like they need to move around, and that'd also help with that.
Roan also had other ideas for it that'd help, but. ye
this is my exact thoughts on the game too lol the whole ruby issue is where i first noticed it and same with some of the fish
I believe, Roan mentioned before, a fishing net, right?
That could help
basically what i'm trying to say is: If they decide to share them (If it even happens), great! But i would not be surprised AT ALL if they didn't
to be fair it's probably to prevent players from getting an unfair advantage in being able to suddenly receive high value items at the beginning of the game. one example of this is pokemon trading, the games have gym badge requirements to use moves outside of battle and an obedience mechanic so that a player starting out doesn't recieve a level 100 Bibarel from someone else with 4 HM moves and get into areas where they aren't supposed to go
Let us afk fish like in OSRS please 
Nikki has a kind of similar mechanic, but it's less frantic and I don't think you loose the fish. or the WoW approach: Just press the button at the right moment
Roan Ideas with fishing that i loved:
#💬│palia-discussions message
Traps would be my biggest aid. Put them down, go do other stuff, come back later
In a game with no player based economy and no competition whatsoever though
I remember saying something similar to the second idea months ago, it would be so nice
Nikki's, sadly, is also not great. I hope they improve it
unless they changed something, i still have to tap tap tap, or hold down my button 
WoW's is fine, esp since you can get a macro/addon to only have to hit 1 button!
Yep! Or the Raft approach, just cast your line and click. You don't even need to be facing water.
Well...not facing water in raft is a bit hard ;P
The game's not really competitive in any way though so if people really wanted to do that... why stop them?
listen i can go into my little house i built, covered in walls and roofs, and be able to fish 
True but I meant it more as you don't have to cast the fishing line in water
you can even fish from islands if I'm not mistaken 
there is a progression in terms of quests and getting better tools though
What if the true fish were the islands we missed along the way?
So what if they gated it through that instead?
"There's a big tree blocking Bahari Bay! You need a Standard Axe to clear it."
Ppl already mentioned-- this game isn't competitive. At all. There is no real advantage 1 player may have compared to another. The only thing that the devs are doing, that im pretty sure theyre wanting to do, is slow game down. Which is fair, that's valid.
But with some things it's honestly just inaccessible. Some things in bundles can't be done for some. Fishing, is the big one. (since hunting/bug/cooking has workarounds, technically with friends/groups).
It just makes it really difficult. Plus the RNG system having no proper pity/bad luck protection is really... demotivating, demoralising, and just not fun for a lot of players.
That's just progression though, we're referring to the fact it doesn't mean anything in this game if you get 'further' ahead than someone else. That's always going to happen. Unfair advantages would be if, as some of us were theorising yesterday, they were to give paid pets a courier mechanic that f2p players can't access. But trading would just facilitate a lot of the locked progression for players who can't do certain skills (such as fishing).
So many islands missed... 
for a game with so many drops and chance based items im surprised theres no proper rating system for the chance to get materials? like i was sure the wiki would have something by now but it really is still just “have patience”
true but someone could gift you the materials to make it
They could - but you still need the levels to get that recipe.
btw are the new furniture sets available as recipies at tish's?
i just realized my reaction prob makes no sense
It's at sifuu's register
okay thanks because i would expect to go to tish
And the sandbox stuff is bought in the tour board store for tickets
To be quite honest, there isn't much that'd be locked via going to bahari or not, anyhow. Some of the stuff that's locked, progression wise, is slowed via friendship levels (like the shepp quest) anyhow. By the time ppl are at lvl 4 friendship to finish said quest, they probably have gotten stuff for smackin' bigger trees already anyways.
So honestly, helping ppl with gifting and trading materials in that way, probably wouldn't affect much in the grand scheme of things (imo).
Especially for a game that is slowly turning more focused on Home Plots, Decorating, etc. Like, yeah... maybe they can help give a bit of gold to buy this 1 recipe someone might really want ... but that doesn't affect the story, progression, etc. It just makes them happy that they can continue to decorate.
Which doesn't impact gameplay.
okay but what about the collection achievements? someone could gift you all the rare bugs/starstones/fish and you would unfairly get the achivements
Easy, only make the collections count when you collect it yourself.
That has nothing to do with story progression though. That's just an achievement. And I think that is also fair since the RNG and rarity of somet hings are honestly, quite frankly, dreadful.
(should I tag fern and ask how that hunt for the starred ruby is? /joking)
(and fern if youre reading this, i love you
)
I think it's helpful to keep in mind that the game is still early in development and the questline iirc is referred to as the prologue, meaning it's very early in the story. It does not make sense from a new player perspective if the prologue requires advanced materials and tools.
i like the achievement system though
And that's awesome. You dont' have to have people trade or gift you things to complete those achievements. It doesn't change the fact you accomplished it, if youre nto wanting ppl to give you stuff
probably because you run out of quests to do very quickly after leveling up friendship with all the villagers
Tbh, i think the reason that is at this point, is bc that's all there is to do anymore, and has been for a while :(
Alright? That's cool. But doesn't mean that for a lot of people they're locked behind skills they can't do themselves due to accessibility issues.
The point of it all is, it would be amazing the game just gave more options for everyone.
Things that aren't tied to progression and are just "extra" - like achievements and what not - I'm totally fine with making grindy as hell. That's fun for me to work towards. But people that just want to play the game... shouldn't be forced into doing things they don't want to do.
I honestly wouldn't mind if there was 1 achievement just based on collecting the stuff, and maybe another one that's 'harder' that is labeled as collecting it yourself.
Palia is not in early development O_o - Unless you meant newer stuff?
Not me i have yet to even touch the villagers quests i think its redundant to the story line. Theres things to do in palia but its mostly decorating and grinding out skills.
Like the makeshift achievement. As awful as it is collecting them all.
Also want to say, I do agree and don't mind achievements being harder, etc. I usually like working towards those in games. 
yeah palia kind of has the beginnings of a grand story, but the character quests feel very unfinished at levels 4 and 5 of friendship and while i liked doing that a lot, since i maxed out everything except romance, there's not much left for me to do
and i'm not interested in becoming everyone's girlfriend, feels too weird
dont even get me started on makeshift LOL i have like 3 left and they keep eluding me when i do try to fish for it
Did the quest to make petit fives for Reth change?? Now it's asking for carrots, sweet leaves, and eggs...
I just want the garden pot 
Youre giving him ingredients so he can make a carrot cake now, yes.
(In related achievement news I finally got a deck that let me get to 999 block on Ironclad in Slay the Spire)
i have one makeshift left and it's a rare one...
current bug, meat recipes have crab in everything... usual cooking bugs every patch 😄
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Changed Your Order is Served quest objective. Players now give Reth ingredients for him to cook a carrot cake, removing the requirement for fruit.
It's still in what I call Schrödinger's beta
Thank you @fiery perch and @thorn temple
i can see that yeah, but i think those quests also felt like you need at least like 15 hours of gameplay to progress into the mid-high level materials so by then it wasnt really super new to the game even for prologue quests. personally it also helped me understand how to learn star quality level items or foods but when those difficulties are taken out it feels like its not even needed to learn (other than for your own displays)
oh wow i just checked my drops xD If they're gonna give rewards like this from now on, they should add a "claim all" button haha
Just adding on to what youre saying, and in case you want to see all the drops if you hven't finished already
The full twitch drops list:: #💬│palia-discussions message
I remember people theorising that certain items were more common on different bodies of water but I'm certain that's just a rumour 
i'm still confused as to how twitch drops work
Why?
People still not getting their stickers from the drops? 
something with a livestream, but idk how they can tell if you watch someone's livestream
honestly the fact they are giving 2x butter etc for drops makes my brain hurt trying to figure out why they seem to be getting lazyier with the twitch drops. What about people who didnt have nox or any of the good drops. why is it butter and sugar etc.
I think some ppl struggled making the recipe (on their own), and i guess that was their workaround..? (just speculation, im not even really sure. never made it myself.)
because it's the new recipe for that quest. petit fives minus the fruit
so it makes sense. just not for that time spent lol
Cause why fix the core of the issue when we can do it in a completely abject way? I mean great they're trying to listen to feedback but... Yeah.
i think the relationships in general could be developed more bc once you complete up to the max levels it feels like theres no incentive to really even talk to them anymore lmao. like there should be more involvement or something even after reach level 4 or 5 but it feels empty after completing their quests
You link your twitch account to your palia account. Twitch then checks if you are watching an eligible stream and takes the time
You will take yo cake ingredients and love them! 
yeah exactly, i loved working towards maxing out friendships so i could unlock new quests but they haven't given us any new villager quests in ages
Drops can be iffy from twitch's side sometimes
When they couldve given those April fools glasses as a drop instead. But I guess they need the cash.
god my throat hurts from yelling off this guys plate to my camera brb i need tea
basically every update now is "new decorations for your plot and premium cosmetics"
They can be VERY buggy, and it's why I really hate and despise twtich drops. I mean, I also hate them bc i dont think they value ppls time (for palia), but this is the other reason lol
i completed that quest through social cooking because of this discord server and it was so nice 🥹🥹 it really helped feel more like a community game to complete the quest
Not valuable anymore. it's all just ingredients. We don't get anything exclusive anymore
I honestly didn't like the exclusive stuff, only bc of fomo vibes. (but, since they added some to like zeki ball it's at least better. if they did that more i wouldn't mind as much, or if it was rotating twitch drops).
Yeah I think I big issue we're seeing is feels like they intend for there to be more story eventually to carry us along through the tool and material progression and there is also no scaling for leveling xp, so you advance very quickly on levels and tools etc but the story doesn't keep up. It doesn't feel balanced, and I think originally the more advanced quest requirements were because the player base was largely very advanced already, so they needed advanced things to feel accomplished. The rebalance I think comes because in the process of adding more story through elderwoods the balance likely felt off esp for the new player experience.
yeah for veteran players the only thing left to do is achievement hunt
I never got the fomo stuff. If you go by that, then everything should be available all the time. Same for login rewards. But then: I rarely get fomo
This. This so much.
I tried to tell them early on in testing they were going too fast. >_<
I wait for new decor. It's the thing that's the most fun ingame
cant even do that correctly looks at einars pebbles smooth pebble you will be mine someday
Eh, not all the time. Like, I don't count stuff at Maji Market, or LNY, as fomo, since that's something that rotates and is holiday specific (well, not maji exactlya nymore.. but hopefully you get what i mean)
But when it's something that's there for a bit, and you missed out with no way to get it again, it just sucks.
I will forever hate that i missed out on froggy bucket because i didnt know it was limited time. :(
i don't really decorate my plot very well or spend time doing it though
Should have had several other tiers of tools and capped it at Iron or Silver for now.
Makeshift --> Stone --> Copper --> Bronze --> Iron --> Silver
Like... they're just not giving themselves room to grow.
I still can't believe we get to palium so fast... It's named like an end game material.... We have palium in alpha and beta like ... Where do they even go from there?
Well, it's moreso because players who weren't present during the time the twitch drops were released or don't use twitch will have missed out. Some will not care but others, specially those who are collector, most likely will. It's down to each person but also doenst help the game promised there would be no FOMO yet they've been slowly going back on it cause, some people seem to like it.
Yeah, it's sad, but then: other stuff might come, even though I doubt it, with how the game is going at the moment. I'll defend my giga frogbert with my life!
Hmmm... Twitch works by categories (just chatting, specific games, irl, etc...) and they always track the amount of time you watch in the platform (that's why you get channel points to redeem based on the hours you've watched a streamer).
If the channel you're watching is streaming that category (in this case, Palia), it counts for the drops. You need to have your Palia account linked so when you claim rewards on your twitch mailbox it automatically sends you a message in game with the items.
now that we mention updates... what are the chances that S6 will showcase an Elderwoods update in tommorow's Nintendo Direct?
Can you imagine you're playing through wow classic and start making azerite items at lvl 10
On one hand I'm like we'll maybe EW will have more tiers for tools but on the other hand if they do, how would that affect balance in the other areas
Like imagine getting a stronger axe then going back to Bahari and having change identity and get police protection cause you were able to chop down a grove on your own
I'm expecting one, MAYBE two
it only took me ehh a week tops to hit end game when i started playing and thats only getting the necessary things out of it. like the entire time i played i didnt mess with npcs or decorating. all i did was just chop some wood mindlessly and did all the quests that was linked to the story, Once they stopped adding to the story the game got stale. Yeah i said it
Which in turn makes the drops aalmost worthless, since it's just stuff you can get ingame with no real effort...
this just brings it back to "what difference would trading materials be" if some folks will get tools very quickly anyways, and even then, you can get to palium super fast already
i remember staying up so late to grind out getting palium items and then just felt so accomplished by then i was like ok i can just breeze through anything now lmao
i doubt that will happen 😦
