#💬│palia-discussions
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machine learning, the 'ai'
Ohh I see ty
Yeah the CMs especially you would frequently run into during testing... Idk if any of them still play though after being laid off.
Finally got sq proudhorn antlers
i know at least a couple of the CMs still poke in and play from time to time, yeah. even with how things went, Palia still means a lot to them
Bit late to this nor unsure if anyone added it. But in steams tos if they managed to miss the tick box to enable the tag they can not go back but they HAVE TO label it in the description which I still don't think s6 have 
Yeah... Remember we got a blog post back in uh, March I think? About them being more transparent and communicating better!
I joined in March, since it was terribly mislabeled believing that it was in a stable condition. I remember them saying they would fix it back then to or at least a few weeks after the fact... Still waiting.. It's one of those things I've held a special place for since imo it should be clearly labeled, as funny as it is to meme beta is beta it got old very fast due to s6s usual mismanagement 


I saw that earlier today too 
What does “drop box” mean 
u can basically drop an application and they will reach out when they are looking for a position, something like that iirc
yep it lets them take applications and then if they need a position they might say 'gimme everything posted in the last month to look through'
oh seems like they found someone for the sr level design position which was up a few days/weeks ago
Oh good maybe they can stop redesigning maps eighteen times
One of these days when I'm bored maybe I'll just write out a whole doc of "if Roan was in charge of Palia" outlining all the system changes and such I'd want to do lol
thats gonna be a big doc 
You know it
like i get why they sometimes do things the rest of the time i question life choices and wonder if they are ok
okay, well, palia is way to laggy to play right now, back to minecraft until the fix it
I need to learn how to program. 😦 I'ma have a Stardew Valley moment and just make my own game. With Blackjack!
Idk where i can say some suggestions but i think there should be a funny dialogue with Sifuu once you romance every romanceable character lmao
Idrk how to explain
!feedback
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- To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
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Cuz like she made every pin u gave the the romanceable villagers
How many commands r there
List of commands:
!modmail - Instructions on how to use ModMail
!support - How to reach Player Support
!feedback - For feedback on the game
!rules - Server Rules
!tos - Links for Palia and Discord ToS
!modcats - Guidelines for contacting Moderators
!status - News with Game Maintenance, Downtimes, etc.
!patchnotes - Current patch notes
!switchupdate - How to update the game on Switch
!drops - Twitch drops and how to's
!raf - How to claim your Refer-A-Friend items
!cosmetics - Cosmetics, Currency, Premium Store
!links - A few useful links for new players
!stuck - For when you get stuck in-game
!market - Maji Market dates
!hotpot - Info and how to play hotpot
!growable - Growable Furniture from 'Party People'
!reacts - lists the two channels for House Tours
!cakeparty - How to join a Cake Party + Guidelines
!glider - How to unlock the Glider
!loom - How to get Leather, Fabric, Silk
!tools - How to upgrade your Tools
This is lovely, we're trapped in the Black Market now. Every time we try to zone out it fails.
Well, there we go, the server just went poof and dc'd us lol
yeah, the game currently is nearly unplayable right now, extremely laggy for me, even on home plot with less tha 400 items on it, running through kilima or bahari (when i can load into them) is almost like watching a slideshow for a few moments
Would be nice, but we all know S6 does not make communicating with the player base a priority.
oh noo i can't look up
the game doesn't let me look up after i watered the plants
I am not holding watering can, but i still cant look up lol
[Backreading currently]
But uh, I would be very much interested in this. So if you ever do do that ... hit me up 
oh that wasn't that far of a backread. the !commands rly took a chunk out of my chat 
This is honestly so unfortunate and frustrating. 
How’re you doing btw? :o
I'm okay! Been keeping busy with building & decorating on Enshrouded 
How are you!
Anyone able to log in? Im stuck at the :
Same
I am stuck in Kilima
I’m able to log in and do everything, I couldn’t early hours this morning though
Ooh what’s that? :o
dealing with the usual chronic fatigue but otherwise okay!
most folks can get in, a fair few are having those matchmaking troubles, you're not alone
sadly im unable to leave my plot should have stayed in the black market
Chronic Fatigue
the worst. I'm pretty much right there with ya. Hope you feel better soon! 
I too am on house arrest
leave your party or join a party and leave it
see if that works cause it did for me
Yeah I’m not part of a party rn
i can inv you to one if i need
my name is the same here as on the game
|| I got a hint from Hassian ||
Thank you I appreciate that! I’m gonna take a break from playing rn tho :o
probably aslo a good idea
If you’re trying to spoiler, it’s ||like this|| <3
tks ❤️
I tried Enshrouded but no party to play with lol hopefully I'll be able to join my friends once it's fully released
The building was kind of a pain though like I love the freedom of placing individual blocks but I would love commands to be able to place entire walls or what not
you can place walls with the hammer?
You can? I never figured out how to make it work then I guess hmmm
yeah. also roofs and doorframes and stuff
Well crap maybe I need to give it another go then lol
The respawning treasure chests confused me a bit too
I'm such a completionist I want to be able to feel like I collected everything lol
I play with friends, and i have my own complaints with that tbh and some flaws. A lot of the quests get completed if just one person does it on the server, so, since i joined them all late... a lot of the 'main story' quests got completed for me and I didnt get to experience it. It was a shame tbh. 
But the building has been nice! And you can place walls and stuff with the hammer, like someone said. 
Maybe I just didn't find a recipe for a hammer or something? I just was trying to build a house for the blacksmith dude one tile at a time and it was annoying as hell lol
Anyone else having major connection issues. I also can't add any new items to the temple.
Yeah, a lot of players are getting connection issues. And people are mentioning not able to add any new items to the temple, too.
I made a ticket yesterday and haven't received any feedback yet.
its sad because all us players want is a "hey we're having issues, we're working on a fix"

i don't know if that's all we want, but it'd certainly be appreciated
absolutely agree, it really is the bare minimum isnt it?
It's on their website
i didnt even know they had a website though honestly. It's not unreasonable to expect communication in a way that almost all players that want to know will see it
appreciate you sharing the ss tho!
all companies will generally have a website, and a support channel. a good place to check for future issues! ❤️
yeah, that's on their support zendesk, and permission to say something there is probably easier to secure
but now they've been acquired by Daybreak they need to run public comms through someone there. it's just conjecture though
yeah, comms via social media can be more trouble and resources than just...fixing the issue and adding a post to their site
good to know it's being worked on at least :)
Does anyone know, if they will fix switch issues before the next patch? 😅
depends which issues, they had a blurb in the .186 release notes that they've made a lot of improvements for it
The players that doesnt finished the bundles cant open them anymore 😅
i don't think that one is limited to the switch, actually. but we haven't heard on a fix for that issue
Got a mail in my support ticket line that they are working at that issue 😊🥰
lol the whole village is glitchy for me even after restarting the game hlep🥴
Just looks like it didn't load fully which happens pretty often, you'd need to restart again.
even tried to restart the laptop, didn't help lol
early Next year for Elderwood.... can't say i'm not a little bit hyped but, Early next year doesn't really tell me much that could be as soon as January or as late as April :/
They are quite vague about most things, yep. Honestly I hope they push it later to actually give time for testing and such.
I'm worried they'll push it ASAP to try and get people back, but it'll backfire because of how buggy it'll be.
i’m fine with march/april tbh 
The reward is the best ||nameplate.|| That aside, I’m back to twiddling my thumbs, but I’ve found my spark again for fishing, so that’s a plus.
Why is there still not a fix for being stuck on plot? Restarting has done nothing and I cannot leave. Kind of frustrating 
if you look in your social menu, third tab, are you able to leave party? that's helped for some folks
it's probably a very large issue, they're working on it currently so all we can really do is be patient with them 
I'm not in a party and I've checked a few times! I tried both entrances, powering down completely, etc. It is what it is! But this seems like a major issue and it's kinda hard to be patient when I can't play the game
I know they're working hard but gosh
it might not even be on s6 to fix, if it's something with one of their networking vendors. but yeah, hopefully resolved soon
wait, is this happening again, or they never fixed this problem from ages ago?
Me and a friend was stuck as well in home and I just gave up and logged off tbh
i'd not heard of it until this patch, so either it exacerbated or it came back
I also couldn't leave Zeki's Underground too and had to force teleport home
Hope the issue is fixed soon tho
I find it fascinating that S6 has laid such an intriguing and solid foundation that people are utterly obsessed with Palia. So many people can't find something else to entertain themselves with for a few days until a hotfix is put into place. It's fascinting to watch the frenzy over Palia.
it's carried some of us through really dark times, it's encouraged deep friendships that expand into the real world, and pushed people to develop themselves and their skills in ways they'd never considered. something really magical about this game. which makes the mis-steps all the more painful to those of us who've loved it a long time
Oh cool! Now I can't play at all. Lol.
The team better include Bahari as not reachable because I tried from every plot and can't get to it.
check your social menu, the third tab - are you able to leave party there? that's worked for some people
See, this is the kind of environment we need in this chaotic world. Being a loner, I didn't really consider that part but, you're right and that makes total sense, how this is more than just a game for some. It's a place to connect and create like never before. Interesting and amazing.
i just wanna play
i cant leave my plot without makin, what seem like, 50 attempts and sittin here for like 20 minutes
i dont wanna play something else but i wanna play frakin something
For a similar vibe, I recommend Morels: the Hunt!
Palia wont even launch on my switch now but i played yesterday just fine. Tells me 4 ppl are waiting loads the screen then drops me back to the menu again.
It's super frustrating, for sure. I think a bunch of the servers are down and the game can't handle the increased traffic from the most recent update. 😩
darn
So odd, I haven't joined a party in a while. It says 3/4 players but none are listed and nothing happens when I hit leave at the bottom.
someone had to hit it three or four times before it worked, but a couple just haven't been able to leave it at all
!loom
Make sure you have the loom crafter - the recipe can be purchased from the Furniture Guild Shop. Once you've reached level 2, talk to me and access the Guild Shop for the recipe!
Or you can even buy the leather/fabric/silk directly from my store! (Look for the cash register.)
Leather comes from animal hide, fabric comes from cotton, and silk comes from silk thread obtained from rare bugs. 
Spoiler ahead for the Mysterious Blueberry Lover quest!
||I'm a very emotional person and this is the cutest little mysterious friend. My heart ached so much reading this, I want the mysterious friend to show themselves. I will literally give themm all the tasties they want. They deserve access to more tasties than Mud Pies, but I will absolutely be cherishing this one they gave me.
Love you little blueberry friend.||
I am also extremely emotional, so I feel you
That quest is great! ||I want to keep the little mystery guys forever and treasure them and I wish them the best||
Anyone else having extreme problems moving between the different areas? I am getting beacon client failed. It is a real issue for three of us.
yes, best bet is to drop group before trying to move areas - that's helped some people
Thanks Evan. Nice to see an alpha buddy.
yep, it's been a long while! glad you're still around too 
@ebon sandal I agree with everything that you said
This channel is usually a safer space for critiquing the game
So after about 7 hours of being free and exploring…. I am now trapped on my plot again 😂 The same time it started for me yesterday too 😬😂
Oh, Nevermind…. I’M FREEEE
I have so many items for the bundles but i cant put them in 😭😩
This is the salt channel!
does that make general the spicy channel 
make sure to put them in a lockbox so you don’t accidentally use them
I absolutely will.
yep. It feels like most people who want to actually discuss/critique the game wind up all but chased here tbh... And then people wonder why everyone in this channel seems so grumpy lol.
This game is my new love/hate relationship
relatable. been feeling that way for about 15 months now
(help me
)
every mmo I've ever played ever....
Is general really still that positive about the state of this game? :x
short answer, enough of them are yea
(i say as someone who's only recently back to chat presence)
If someone wants to be positive about the game, that's fine and dandy, but palia has a really bad problem with toxic positivity where anyone who dares express criticism tends to get dogpiled on like "how dare you say bad things about the game, it's still in beta and its FREE so why are you complaining?!"
Yeeep those are the same two excuses I hear over and over :x
Curious if people still defend Star Citizen with the "it's beta" line at this point
The feedback for palia use to get passed along when we had a community manager until they all left so I don't even know how feedback is collected now
Then again the only time the acted on feedback was when they addressed the cosmetic store that they would adjust the coins so you wouldn't need to buy something like 600 coins to get a 200 coin item but that was quickly ditched
as i understand it, the feedback form submissions go to an s6 internal email address (either via collected form or individually, not sure) so they'd still have access to anything we put through it now
I imagine it's probably being AI compiled.
(That's my theory for why they just will not drop the RNG plushies already, people send in complaints about it but all the AI sees in common in the complaints are the words "RNG plushies" so S6 goes THEY WANT MOAR)
They actively track what you do in game. Less people were befriending villagers so they stopped making friendship quests. More people were seeking plushies, so they made more
Makes it all the more ironic when they ask for "cozy vibes in chat only"
i am stuck here for 20 minutes already
I was not into plushies at all until last month because I realized how I could use them in specific plots to look like people I guess. Now I want more :< (but upright ones, not fish! I did get a fish too tho)
Reminds me of Survivor's Bias.
"People aren't interacting with this unfinished content that has no reward and are just doing the meaningless time sinks in the meantime... better ignore the unfinished content and add in more meaningless time sinks!"
which is the complete opposite of what people want, we do the meaningless tasks because we're waiting for the main content to come through
I guess their assumption is you’d play a different game instead of log in to do things you don’t like
a lot of people are having server problems, server connection losts, long wait times to get in/out of game. super laggy when you do get to places. probably won't be hot fixed until next week if not until after the holidays since i don't know if s6 is on holiday vacation this week
Mines broken too but too lazy to report it. I guess the fix borked
it me i'm ravenous for plushy
while the trading still scares me as a fan, i think it's a good step for folks to have an avenue to get some of them. but i do wish there was a less random way to get them, because for every person who gets a sernuk plushy in the first few tries is someone who's 1700+ with nothing
agreed, like i don't know if you can make code for it, but something like how some irl claw machines are, they have a set payout where after like 20 plays (probably more for those more scammy arcades) you're guaranteed to get the plush, maybe could do something like that with the plushes, maybe like after hunting 100 or 500 elder sernuk with no plush you're guaranteed to get the plush on the next hunt, could even just be server side, like the server itself has a limit that if reached everyone who hunts will get the plush when they make their next hunt (that's probably way to hard to do)
bad luck protection for the hunting plushies is fairly straightforward, sure. bit trickier for the fishing ones (which i think are just now in the fish pool like makeshift?) or the zeki coins, where you might need a few dozen bad luck 'counters' tracking at any given time
absolutely solvable if they wanted to go down that path though, agreed
I have mixed feelings about plushie trading tbh.
On one hand, I feel like it's good for the game, in the sense that people can actually obtain those items who couldn't, and it's a tiny step towards making palia actually feel like a bit more like a multiplayer game rather than a single player game
on the other hand, it kind of feels like it devalues the items for those who want them as a way to show off an achievement rather than just a cute little house decoration.... but that's the fault of the game having literally no other way to show off what you've earned, more than it is the fault of trading being a thing
i have nearly a dozen of the sunrise chandeliers, that's more a monument to frustration than an achievement v.v
it's a fair point though. i just wish we had an avenue to work towards some of them specifically - like there's one specific ormuu i'm still missing, and i have no way to tilt that in my favor other than continuing the zeki coin shuffle
all i know is that the hot pot prize wheel needs to be reworked, there is no reason what so ever to have 2 fireworks and 2 ingredient slots on it and no reason for the gold slot either
what I dont understand about this "patch" is why it is adding 20 minutes of gameplay and no new features but its caused so many issues
that's the mo of s6, release a new patch that has very little new content but make sure that everything that's not broken brakes or is just plain unfun
Any word yet from S6 on the issues or nah?
nah, it's the weekend, s6 is probably closed, so the earliest we could get any word would probably be monday, unless, since they released the patch earlier than what they have in the past, they could be on thanksgiving break which means won't be until the following week
I actually have a standing theory on why their patches have been so buggy and keep bringing back old bugs on top of introducing new ones, just trying to find out how to explain it lol
incompetence? sorry that was mean of me
and that's the second time my game completely crashed out to log in screen... while on my plot
this game is so rude
broadly? yes, but more specifically, I suspect that:
multiple devs are working on different areas content-wise (one might be working on new quest content, one might be working on adding plushes to rng loot tables, etc)
but my theory is that these multiple "branches" of code are not being merged properly when creating/releasing a new patch for the game, and are therefore breaking things when they're pushed live
for example, let's say that developer "A" is working on, say, a questline that changes one of the temples somehow.
Developer "B" is working on adding more foliage to the world, and this includes the temples.
A and B might be thoroughly bug-checking their code and everything comes up clear, and say "this is good, let's add it"
but then whoever is in charge of merging A and B might not be doing their due diligence, and just copypastas the code from A and the code from B together..... annnnd the temple breaks.
This gets even worse when you consider that developer A might have been spending 3 months working on their code and is using the game version from 3 months ago the whole time.
But one of the bugs present in the game in this example might have gotten patched out 2 months ago, only to be reintroduced by shoddy code merging from developer A's older version of the game
This is all just a long-winded theory, mind you, but I have a pretty strong suspicion this is probably one of the causes to blame for more than a few of the game's issues.
while this may be true (honestly sounds like it could be), they need to have qa before release. it kinda makes it look like nobody plays the game before patch release, because a lot of the issues have been spotted by players within 5 minutes of being released into the wild. it wouldn't hurt that the team that on the day they announce when the next patch update is that they spend the day playing and making sure the game has a good play through and if something is amiss can be worked on friday and monday before release. instead of having a buggy mess where players are complaining and being turned off of the game because of it
oh yeah, it doesn't excuse them at all, it's just my theory on how it's happening
when the fish all loss their textures when placed in that one patch, everyone caught it like 2 minutes in, so s6 should have caught it as well if they played
yep I agree with you, they're not doing QA properly for sure
and the fact that there have been bugs in the game since the very beginning and nothing has been really done for it, like pebble plunder, is just really annoying.
even if individual devs are QA'ing their own work, S6 is clearly not QAing the merged patch they plan to push live, it feels like
Hey guys I just started playing again after a long long break. I have a question tho, back then when I was still playing one of the best way to earn gold was doing cake party's.. is that still a thing or what's better now? 😄
They could solve the issues by letting users opt in to early branch builds and submit reports. I don't ever see them doing that, but at least the community can find bugs before pushing it to everyone.
S6 nerfed them pretty hard so nope.
Iam not suprised...so..What's the best method now?
they kinda tried to equal all the skills i think gardening is good? https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1160984775025250364 can ask in there for a good plot plan for money, starstones are ok to get now too to sell, im not sure what else as i don’t farm gold
i think muujin bahari is good and cake is still ok that some ppl still do parties for it but i think their more focus foods
i’m curious, how much does the cake priced at before they nerf it ?
Thank you!
I dont remember the price but i think around 200 rounds of cake were like 50-70k gold or am I tripping I dont remember tbh 🤔
Hold up I should have a screenshot somewhere
Nvm I dont ,but it did quiet a lot of money
100 rounds of cake now makes around 70k. if you want more profit cooking party, i suggest the epic fish cooking party. those take less time and make so much more than the usual cake party. you can get roughly 200k-400k from just one party.
Ohh?! Thank you so much for your aanswer! Hold up if 100 rounds of cake makes 70k gold, it means back then it was doubled amount damn.. xd
what is the epic fish cooking party?
the host usually use epic tier fish like the ancient fish for recipe like sushi, fish tacos or fish stew.
Oooohhh. I would love to do one of those.
omg i made it to kilima
it doesnt help that they had massive lay offs a few months ago as well
Is there any palia black market stock tracker somewhere? so I don't have to go there every in-game night?
Oh my gooooood, how has the travel issue still not been fixed yet? Lol
The furniture rotates with different servers so I don't think there would be an effective way to do such a thing.
ooo, thanks
Exit and reenter the market and you stand a chance of coming in on a different server to a different selection 2 or 3 times.
Anyone know what this is?
The orange flare?
Yeah
I've seen a green one then I see this haha does it have anything to do in the game? 🙂
Someone marked a resource, usually palium, flow trees or rare foragables
Ooooh
So that's what it is
Yep! You can unlock flares from hassian after a certain hunting level I believe.
Hello! Does anyone know if there’s been any update from devs about not being able to enter Bahari Bay?
It's the weekend so expect some answer after tomorrow.
make sure your not in. group, even a ghost one, if your not can try getting in one and leaving, alamo i hear to try entering through the back of your plot
They know about it. They put it at least on their support website. 
Image description::
"" Known Issue:: The team is aware of the issue with loading from the home plot to Kilima Village and vice versa, and is now working on a fix. As a temporary, but not guaranteed workaround, restart the game multiple times, or travel to Bahari Bay then to Kilima Village. ""
We need community chests in kilima and bahari for this reason right here. The games basically unplayable for so many people right now.
Glad to read they are working on it! Now I can't pick up stuff at my plot.
i hope this makes them add one eventually 
I suggested it to them in a complaint I'm having.
that might need a relaunch of game or go out of plot and back in if it happens again dona bug report
Anyone experiencing unusually high amounts of disconnects?
Sadly, yes still 😦
Crashing while trying 2 enter the temple of gales
You can still do them. They're good money, just not as good as they were. For quick money, there really isn't anything else.
yes it’s a loading bug, keep trying eventually you’ll get in
What are community chests?
Can we please get sale boxes beside every fishing hole, Please!?
basically it’d be a storage chest anyone can access but it’s your own inventory you see , like a bank in any other mmo
Ohh yeah that sounds good..
Alr thank you 
For quick money, I'd recommend joining in sushi or sashimi parties and overprep rice. They usually last about an hour for 100x and can net around 100-200k. Usually hosts ask for starred rice but some allow unstarred.
Just check that they're using starred epic fish.
Yeah, they've caught the prices on alot of things
Alr thank u aswell!
Yep sadly 🥲 Still better progress than back then on release xd
My biggest issue back then was that they claimed only cake parties were going to be "balanced" but they ended up nerfing cooking overall
And then they nerfed the worm bins to oblivion
yeahh true i remember the worms omg
They're still pretty good profit but I always disliked their habit of nerfing skills and not compensating for it
This is wild. So much is broken.
I know there are a LOT of issues with the game right now, but those cosmetics, eh? Distract yourself from the problems the game is having by purchasing a new shiny!
everyone rn pretty much
Is there a way to cook food while only using certain starred ingredients? e.g. I want to make fish stew using a starred fish without using any other starred ingredients (spices & garlic)
Place all the other starred ingredients in the locked chest.
Oh, i agree. It's so much better now then it was back then. It's funny when newbies will argue with me about the things they've changed and tell me idk what I'm talking about when I've played since day 1 lol
There's always been something busted.
Clay used to sell for way too much back in the first pre-alpha, then another test I remember you could buy Silver Bars with one medal or something to sell for a bunch. 😛
It's just unfortunate that gold and a lot of materials don't really have much use.
i wouldn’t mind like a thing “collec 100 of these items to hand over for another item” that some other mmos have, for example wow has a little vendor that has bag cosmetics but you need to being 100 of each kind of fish from that part of the game to trade for it
How long this game been in beta? .-.
With beta itself (not counting alpha), over a year.
August 2023.
And if combined?
First Pre-Alpha was July 2021, I believe
Roan can prob correct me if im wrong
I thought that it started in 2018? /gen
It might of been in development in 2018, but the first pre-alpha wasn't until later
Ohh okays thank you! <3
We coming up 2025, I think the problem is that s6 keeps promising and never kept it. As much as I want to give s6 benefit of doubt due to limited staffing, real world issues, etc.
It's been few years now and I have never seen the game not being fully released before until palia.
I guess I'm saying I'm burnt out on the game, I honestly thinks there are no excuses at this point of time. There no communication but the comestic (sorry if it's misspelled, I meant the pay to look pretty for example) stuffs and occasionally one or 2+ s6 popping in and out just to give mini update on the temple or whatever.
Now I know there will be some people going to comment, "actually..." to my statement but my point still stands.
Is the engine even up to par? Why there no CM's? (Yes I know they cut down the staffing). Why they insisting to not have a roadmap for people (communication) but locked it behind nda?
We have so many questions and we kept trying to get our voices out but to no avail or do they actually noted it down and knowledges it.
At the end of the day, it's should be noted how we do want to play stable bug free server with story content.
I know the devs are actively working on the new stuffs, I'm just disappointed since I do want to give palia a benefit of doubt but it's been years
And to be honest, I don't even want to talk in pal gen and I just occasionally pop in just to say hi to my friends and goes on with my day.
I'm just not seeing any changes with how much people keep saying the game breaks and nothing else. (To be fair, it's might not be all about the broken stuffs), but I mean like every time I look in there.
i think the issues seem to be that they rushed alpha(from my understanding) and are now almost doing the same with beta besides all the stuff that happened within the company’, alphas and betas can take a while depending on the game (i think there’s one game that’s still in alpha/beta too for a while) as it’s all about stability and other things , we as players (and i think most since it’s not advertised as a beta) are wanting what’s best for the game but aren’t used to playing with alot of bugs going on
like if it wasn’t for the servers imposing and ppl not able to deposit things in cauldron/bundles atm it’d be ok for the most part
I mean, they should power down the game and fixes it before releasing it back up if that what it's take for them to fix it.
But no, there will be some people go "WHY THE GAME NOT BACK UP" for weeks if that happens. But guess what, tough luck if it's means fixing the bugs.
That's just my opinion tho lol
(Star Citizen is the forever dev example i usually see trotted out)
I'm not familiar with that game but I see :o
Outside of bugs and how unstable the servers are, the game does have beautiful art style and I love tau lol
i’ve seen wow go down for 2 days before while fixing a bug, it’s not that uncommon they could do that, i think with the holidays coming up their trying to beat some deadline
The question will be better phased, "do you really want to rush to meet the deadline or make sure the game is stable, bug free, and perfect?"
That's something they should think about
I just want everyone to know I'm not complaining but just :/ you know
nothing is bug free
but at least get all the major ones which i am hopeful they are working on just with whatever crew they have left and stuff they need to deal with from the company that owns(?) them now
it’s ok to complain or critique :)
Oh I know but geez, palia have some major bugs and chappa is having hard time keeping it low population lol
for better or worse, there's enough startup thinking still in their veins that they'd rather get something imperfect out today than something highly polished in a week
So many bugs, so little chappa to upkeep it..
My issue isn't with the beta status in itself, it's with the apparent lack of improvement and general deterioration of quality over the past year that makes me incredibly skeptical that 1.0/elderwoods will be any different
I want to see the game succeed, but I'm having a hard time envisioning 1.0 release being actually 1.0 release quality given the track record they've had over the past year
yea which is why i think if they can figure out what’s causing these loading bug things and at least let ppl use the cauldron/bundles again it’d be ok for most part while they work on other things
you saying that reminded me of this: #💬│palia-discussions message
That's beautifully said. 
Omg no way! lol 😂
I'm crossing my fingers that once elderwood comes out, s6 will come out from hiding with the chappa and improvements / communication will be better from there. but I'm not going to hype myself up and just watch from the distance with my deers (I forgot the name for palia lol)
Crab basically said this word for word after the house tours came out, so yep.
The general vibe seems to be they'd rather put out something and refine it later than make sure it's good before releasing it
Also Ori you were correct July 2021 was the first pre-alpha and the game has been in development since around 2018/2019
Oops
oh i know what word prob got automodded oops
The one good thing they def did this patch though, is that they implemented at least some accessibility with the new questline/questchain. Even though, from what I gather from people talking about it, it's not the most obvious? But if you fall a specific amount of times, you can talk to ||Subira|| to skip said puzzle.
Def would be better, like Roan suggested previously, option to make it easier, like an alternative path, instead of straight skip. But i just know, it made me glad that i never stopped talking about accessibility and kept talking about it, and asking about it. Esp discussing things with Vega in the past lol*
That's great 👍🏻
It's at least some step forward. Still ofc wishing for other improvements, but 
And ty for the confirmation, Roan!
Appreciate you
i submitted a bug ticket on that focus % issue and took the opportunity to scroll back through my tickets, the oldest ones were more than three years old. it's been quite a journey, and they've come a long way from those early days; even if they still have quite a ways to go and keep tripping over their shoelaces. i'm also hopeful that the elderwoods give the players and the team some breathing room, but their cadence after launch is going to need to be closer to the alpha pace than what we've seen in the later half of beta.
I saw mention of wanting access to personal storage from other maps a while ago. Unfortunately I feel like that's not likely to happen, or at least not on every map (maybe Elderwoods?). They purposely designed the game to try and encourage you to change maps so that servers can shut down, because of memory leaks ballooning ram usage of the servers over time. They wrote about it in that article on their site a while back.
Link for the curious: https://singularity6.com/news/software-architecture-of-palia
I hope that the major bugs are less when elderwood come out and s6 will slow down their roll and focus on any upcoming issues and nip it in the bud tbh
Im just hoping that there is no major bugs or any bugs happening in new map but I can only dream
||yes it’s not obvious at all, a dev had to say it in the discord, otherwise i never would have thought to talk to her as we never had to before with past temples||
and it’s 5 times
Yeah, this is what I thought. Especially since when i mentioned that part in the accessibility channel, someone mentioned they didnt even think to ask/talk to ||Subira|| after falling a lot. 
With their track record it's highly unlikely. My only hope for that happening is that Elderwoods is already done and they're spending the next several months testing for bugs for we'll see.
ooh ok that makes sense
Omg that will be better, not half story like right now will be nice
I hope that what devs doing just that with elder woods, if that the case, good
||im going to leave. a feed back about it but she basically says she’ll watch over you, but i think it could be hinted like “talk to me if you have issues” kind of thing when you first are talking with her||
Oh, yeah, definitely. That would help 100%. ||Especially since saying "I'll watch over you" could also just look like flavour text.||
I'm a little alarmed these connection issues are still going on.
I'm aware it's a weekend but they should have someone on-call 24/7 to deal with server issues... That's very unusual for a live-service game to not have a team for stuff like this.
Either they don't have someone which is... Disconcerting, or they don't know how to fix it, which is... Equally as disconcerting.
For how often the connection issues happens it's a hard sign...
Like I don't wanna doom and gloom but they do tend to leave us to our own devices and assume we will just accept the poor service since ooo F2p can't complain wahhh... Like sorry not sorry I don't think it'll make it to elderwoods sometimes since the ongoing bigger issues 
Yep their engineering team must really be short staffed which explains the competing resources for trying to implement stuff.
Imagine it's just one poor person trying to program everything :x
Yeah I'll give them the whole benefit of the doubt since they are very understaffed and daybreak probs just leeching for a few extra bucks (which eh what have they done or are they just holding off to 2025 before they unleash)
But it's like every weekend the servers just crumble one way or another
and for awhile now I think most have slowly came around to the idea of stopping monthly updates and maybe have people focus more on fixing before adding new things which is nice. It gives s6 time to focus on some of the issues and maybe bring things to a more stable condition before wrecking it all with new things that most would be happy waiting a couple of months for... They don't need pay wall monthly updates... If they came out and said yeah we gonna fix somethings give us like 4 months we might upload some store content sorry... I'd personally be OK with that. Not ideal but you gonna fix age old bugs? Where do I sign up!
I'm rambling I'm so sorry 
Didn't the vega... Whatever s6 person even bring up something about old code or something.... Ehhh brain 
Same
That's why I bring up the point of "is the engine up to par?" Because it's didn't sounds like it is
Ever so famous line we gonna use something none of us know
True lmao
Everyone else havin connection issues since the update?
Known issue currently
yeah it is a known issue
Ugh always something
Is it a known issue that you can't add items in the night sky temple? & Food items missing when cooking
They haven't mentioned, from what i've seen, about the bundles- but it is definitely mentioned by othe rplayers. (Seems specific to switch)
The food items is known, at least with Bok Choy and Green Onion in their patch notes. (but there are others).
list of other ingreidents that can't be used rn: #💬│palia-discussions message
weekly wants: is there a rule that characters won't accept something if someone hasn't told you that they want it?
(I don't usually work too hard on that but i need to grind out some relationships to make progress in quests.
)
nope you can hand it to them before hand, i check their wiki page to see what they want in the other spots and hand it over
i hope the night sky temple bundles issue gets bumped up, it’s been pretty frustrating :/
weird, I just tried to give Eshe some sushi since it's one of hers this week and she just completely turned me down
hmm maybe it’s bugged? i haven’t given gifts to ppl in a while so i’m not sure
I cant log in ..are the servers down?
maybe u didnt prep it the way she likes it xd
On steam deck and having the same issues. Hope it's all fixed soon
Hello everyone! Do you also have connection problems in the game? I often have "connection errors" and mainly at the zeki underground market. out of 10 attempts I only have access to it once or not at all.
yes. theyre common and everyones dealing with them
Scroll up a bit, it's been going on all weekend.
ah ok ok thank you very much
yes yes I read but just to know if certain that for the market or for other times
Yeah stuff is super borked, hopefully they'll get it sorted when they're back in the office
It's just baffling to me they don't have someone on-call to deal with it over the weekend.
Every live service game I've ever played has had a team to get things running again if there are major issues during their usual off hours.
They must surely be working on it! Since I've been playing there, the team has been quite responsive! It’s not great, that’s for sure! but I'm sure they're working on it
If anyone is having an issue with leaving their plot, go to another one of your plots and then exit. It worked for me.
They're aware of it but if they were working on it, it would have been resolved by now.
I've been around since day one and I've never been impressed with their timeliness in dealing with bugs. They have been better these past few months about doing a hotfix a day or two after patches to fix whatever they broke in the patches though I guess, so there's that.
But then there was also the hotfix that made things even worse and they didn't bother fixing that until the next month lol
so ehhh.... who can get into the black market???
People are also saying "b-b-but S6 is understaffed!!!!"
"One month after the game's release, Singularity 6 laid off 49 employees, or 35 percent of its staff.[6] Another 36 employees (40% of the workforce) were laid off in May 2024, making this the third round of layoffs since September 2023.[7]"
As if it wasn't by their own hand.
I'm kinda livid.
sad, they going to ruin a fun game like this with that
Truly.
I hope this shapes up, but I am not holding my breath.
Losing more than half your staff just to get acquired by Daybreak is not a good look.
The game performance going downhill to monthly unplayability is just icing on the poo cake.
A lot of us doing early tests told them it was too early to release to the public but they did it anyway. They had potential but killed it by revealing their hand too early, which lost a lot of that momentum and hype they'd built up.
When they launched I gave them a year before servers shut down. The acquisition happened about 8-9 months later and saved them from that, but my current diagnosis is that if Elderwoods doesn't at least double the content, include a new skill, and come out nearly bug-free, the game is done by the end of 2025.
That's an unfortunately accurate prognosis.
I am praying PRAYING that the Elderwoods will be a push that we all need to enjoy the game but sadly, much like the first two areas that we have, after like a week or so of exploring both Kilima Village and Bahari Bay, you run out of new things that make your eyes sparkle with curiosity and fall into that same old "fast travel to get item/talk to an NPC" cycle. Hopefully the lore being expanded thanks to Elderwood will be interesting...
Not to say I hate the game or anything but we just need something other than dailys and plushie collection to keep us in the game :c
Nah you right as heck.
not sure where to put this or if it's even possible but for some reason I have two of the spring flutterfox plushies and no summer one. as far as i'm aware these were login rewards so i'm not sure why I have two springs. 1) would anyone be willing to trade a spring for a summer (if possible at zeki's underground) 2) do you think it could have been a glitch? ty in advance <3
Oh I have two springs and two winters, I'm sure there's a plushie trading thread around here lemme find it for ya
There we go yea
tysm!! life savers <3
Yep, there's always been a lack of forward momentum in this game.
Games like Stardew keep you hooked because just when the loop starts to get stale, there's something new to mix it up. A new season. A new festival. A new villager. A new map. A new goal to work towards.
Palia just hasn't been able to keep an update cadence that makes people want to come back and play more.
There's been plenty of foward momentum with the Premium shop... 🙄
I agree. I personally don’t care for the plushies that much, but I know that some enjoy collecting them. I got tired of it real fast. Just.. plushies and cosmetics. Ugh.
The plushies and potato pods feel like a holdover, more than an actual function in the game.
"Oops, it broke again. Have a potato pod."
How much time do they dedicate to designing these cosmetics and plushies.. like, can we at least have some new furniture more often? 
I feel like if they just forced themselves to stop pumping out monthly updates and just said "we will give out proper updates when they are ready" instead of making tiny snips of content that keep you interested for a day or two, no one would have a problem with it. They could still add stuff into the Premium store each month, sure, but this way they would have more time and there would be zero reason to rush out things that somehow end up breaking the game 
Try going through reth’s storeroom
THANK YOU. THE MOONSTRUCK SET IS BARREN. 
wait reth has one. i knew about zekis and both sever opening and zekis i cant get in
Under the Inn. If you’ve progressed far enough, you can go directly to the underground from his storeroom
ah sadly i still need the key for that
Sorry Sushi :<
ive been saying this for ages but ive always gotten dogpiled on for it 😭
finally loaded in after being kicked from loading 50 times x.x i hope they fix this stuff soon cuz i invited friends that already said it is not fun thanks to the amount of bugs
Yeah they're sort of embarrassing everyone who tries to reccommend this game to anyone.
and server connection lost... aka cant do s**t again
Palia General is not the place for anyone who has valid complaints on the game, apparently :^)
i like the setup of the game. but with this and what i just been seeing here it isnt promising for the future
ive had some palia general ppl come in here and dogpile on us or stir the pot like theyre going to do something
Aaaaaand removed Palia General from the server list.
It's the same problem that Sea of Thieves has and at the moment that game is filled to the brim with bugs and cheaters, basically unplayable and falling apart because they force themselves to pump out content in a season format T_T It would be so easy to just tell the community that rushing updates out is helpful to no one and take a step back from it to do bigger updates we would just wait for a bit longer :/
they always end up running right back to general tho
The fact that I'm willing to subject myself to Overwatch over Palia atm is no good
Their artists are mostly ICs I believe, so it's probably pretty easy to add in new versions of existing stuff.
It's their engineering team that seems to be very bare bones, which is why it's probably tough to code in any new projects apart from what they're trying to do with Elderwoods.
Not an excuse of course... They should be desperately hunting for more programmers if that's where they're lacking. 🤷♂️
But nah, they're not hiring qualified folks for who knows why.
Whoa now, stirring the pot is my job!
I love how they said they improved Switch performance only for me not to be able to play. The irony is kind of hilarious.
better than league and valorant next to palia XD
That is ARGUABLE but I will concede the point. 
RIGHT???
They improved it by making people unable to play, duh
Because honestly from what I've seen playing this game on Switch is akin to torture
Honestly I had a better time on Switch, but that could be because my laptop is dog dookie.
It wasn't so bad in the early days. Now it's uplayable.
Palia has been one of the best games I’ve played for a while, but I’m tired of pretending like there’s no issue at all. My optimism has turned me annoying when people make complaints about the game, so I’m going to stop that and get serious. The fact the game has no music rn bugs me to my core. I hate that all the bugs, and hunt-able creatures dash halfway across the map before I can kill them. The constant freezing and lagging when talking to villagers has been absolutely annoying and I hate having to close the game every other 30 minutes to complete dialogue. The temple of the gales made me close the game about 5 times just to complete it and it drove me nuts. I don’t care about s6 pushing cosmetics. The devs need to eat and provide for their family, but I want the game I love so much to work period. I won’t be annoying about people complaining anymore because I get it and I’m sorry for being a jerk. They gotta fix the game or people will leave and there will be no game for anyone at all. And that means a lot of people will lose out on a job and I don’t want that to happen.
Close enough to be 
I do wish they thought long term for the switch bound players 
Welcome to the fold, Halo
Sorry I had to pull the tinted glasses off ya.
RIGHT???? And dyeing furniture is a joke 
Why pretend alot are overly out spoken about s6 
'Cause sometimes you just WANNA LIKE SOMETHING SO BAD.
I've been there.
We word it nicely since sure beta is beta and smol team but they can't be wrapped in bubble wrap forever this is the harsh truth they need shame they never read anything
I hate to critique things I know nothing about, but I’m the targeted audience.
You don't have to know how to fly a plane to know when it's being done wrong, fam. 🫂
Starting to think that instead of “this update features new cosmetics” that it’s the other way around.. and they are pushing cosmetics with barely an update/fix 
I think part of the problem is that this is supposed to be a multiplayer game. There isn't enough multiplayer content to sustain the game in-between updates.
Any game like this is going to rely on a game loop. gather, craft, decorate with some lore if you are lucky. It is supposed to be a social game but only within their timeline, i.e. Maji market and hotpot. I have no idea why the Maji market isn't open all the time and they rotate different events.
Imo, they made a huge mistake releasing flow trees being planted on lots. That just killed the social aspect of the flow groves. They made a multiplayer game and slowly turned it into a single player game.
Honestly I appreciate that Flow can be grown on plots, makes it a bit more of a personal grove experience if you do it right
But you're absolutely correct in that it killed Grove Parties 
[Backreading and delayed response], but they ended up giving out the spring one (i believe) on accident a 2nd time. ...But they then sent the autumn one like they meant to right after! just wanted to let you know sinec you asked if it was a glitch!
Interesting /gen
Do you think that the people who design the cosmetics come and go? :o
I didn't even like that they added groves, to be honest. One of the most social things I used to do in the game was farm flow trees, and now you can barely get help to chop an individual tree because everyone waits for groves.
Like I rambled on before
#💬│palia-discussions message
If they made a middle ground of updates, fixes and ofc their stupid hard push for money I think they could make something good
Not forgetting the models for alot of decor have parts missing or parts that only the npcs can have... For whatever reason
Tbh, I have also noticed at least, Sea of Thieves has been trying to be more communicative and trying to solve these problems (other than cheaters, i mean, i haven't encountered them but i've seen others talk about it at least...). Has felt at least a little bit more responsive compared to .. gestures 
[I also agree that taking time is better than doing the updates in that way, ofc!]
If they intend to do a major overhaul for the Elderwoods, then it can either be the best thing they’ve done, or cause a crap ton more problems to cause people to leave.
They should have added either the groves or planting on your lots. Introducing both one right after the other is what killed it. I haven't been to a grove in months because I have like 50 flow trees seeds.
there is a reason i spam alot of the art station stuff since its public and shows off alot of things that were made for palia to try convice others to have a peek around
I, admittedly, cackled a lot when i read that announcement, esp after seeing so many ppl say they couldn't play rn 😭
A lot of them might not even be making anything for the game anymore, honestly. S6 might actually have a backlog of items and such to implement, just not enough coding talent to actually add them because ICs can often pump out more art assets than we know what to do with (speaking as someone who has worked on two games before.)
It's a fine line, agreed.
Really hope they tip into the "double the content, new skill, few bugs" side though.
Though it feels kinda... Almost wrong to hope on this?
Idk, hope feels foreign after the Daybreak thing.
I agree! They are pushing out broken updates and then go “welp, onto the next one”
tbh, it's been worse since that announcement. I haven't seen any change for the better.
Exactly
I mean if you count the water in game to look slightly more realistic then yeah I guess 
Everyday I find out something about S6.. 
I honestly would of heavily preferred optional dungeons that you could do with people, so you can get more of a specific resource, instead of the way groves are currently. It'd help with social, give something else to do, etc. 
They might as well change the name of the game to Plushia rather than Palia.
The "endgame" of palia being entirely focused on collectable home decor isn't sustainable imho.
For one, we have item limits. And plot limits. And there's only so much space in your house.... and homes are generally a hassle to visit in general, on top of that (as in actually visiting the person's actual plot, not the home tour thing)
But instead of getting a healthy variety of content, and a healthy variety of rewards, they're hyperfocusing on "collectables" to the point it feels like everyone's house is just going to turn into the same trophy room/plush hoard that everyone else has, and monetizing 99% of everything else that can be considered cosmetic (which, I consider most home decor cosmetic too, save for the crafting tables and processing stations...)
"speaking as someone who has worked on two games before"
OH
SO YOU KNOW KNOW ABOUT THIS 
I 100% agree. Communication and clarity about goals is what should be number 1 on the list of things that we should be getting but instead we are getting constant pets/outfits and glitchy updates 
Ooooooo I would love dungeons!!
Don't take everything I say as fact, they're informed guesses but I can't say 100% for sure what's going on behind the scenes with S6 in particular.
I mean, it sure seems like they have a handful of items, assets, etc that they could implement. Snail anyone? /halfjoking
id rather take a few months away from palia while they work on fixes even if its just one or 2 a month since i mean trees have been broken for how long?
like its fine if they wanna hold things back till its more suiting but heck give us clutter or something to amuse our selves with for a few days
like we report stuff and even the support team dont even read tickets the amount of time i get asked to attach a ss when the ticket has ss, gifs, video links? like sorry want me to send you the code to
✍🏽 take ✍🏽 everything ✍🏽 as ✍🏽 fact
Ofc ofc, but your educated guesses are better than others
I bet you they wanted to add more bug related plushies but only made the snail and decided to either scrap it or push it onto the back burner 
I've talked about ideas about it loosely here and there, and even talked about ideas with Roan, too. Roan has a lot of cool ideas that i just love 😭
But optional dungeons would be so fun? could even have them with easy puzzles to do with someone, co-op wise. Someone just standing on a pressure plate, pulling a lever, etc, to open another path. Fetch quests in it. etc etc 
Wait.. what’s wrong with the trees? /gen
Personally I don't think they are going to "fix" the trees. I think it's here to stay.
Tree drops flying into the map/sky
We gotta get you and Roan on the dev team 👀
Oh I thought she was talking about them being a global asset.
the quest to grow some still bugs out for a handful or people and i havent gotten tree seeds from plot grown trees for a few to many months at this point so i kinda gave up on them i tried a tree since the 186 patch and as always no water meter no sounds no vfx so im bypassing it using other people to either water it for me or watch me water it 
Oh we was both wrong
Still would of loved a flea market area where you could have your own stall, so you can sell/trade items that way with players. Promote social, creativity if you can customize your own stall, help accessibility (since it could involve like, fish, bugs, etc) ...
If they are worried about the economy, could have it set to how many you sell/buy a day, set the price to Zeki's if you sold there (but maybe a bit higher to compensate for time)... 
Have NPCs walk over to make random comments, so could have interesting flavour text, show their personality more, etc.
and supports reply? you have to water it for a few in game days
like haha cute yeah i watered one for a month straight but sure a few days
@jolly mica Here we go, sane palia chat
The MMO tag was what originally got me excited for the game.
Throughout testing I tried to get them to raise server caps, add in co-op activities (and some friendly competitions) but yeah... No luck. 😦
It's a tree epidemic.
treepidemic
The only way I completed that quest was because Kenyetta gave me seeds after completing her quest
How they can even call it a MMO is beyond me. It's more co-op
It's still advertised as an MMO on switch. 
If you think the tree drops getting launched into the stratosphere is painful, wait until you get launched yourself by a muujin
i can get wild seeds but they never seem to reach their final stage
so i cant grow my own
I often describe it as "An MMO that doesn't feel close to an MMO"

dont forget its still not labeled correctly on steam either 
Oh what??
I'd just close my game ngl 
I don't/can't do gales for a reason 
Even the co-op is barely there.
Like it's so frustrating to me with the growable furniture seeds you get from partying... I asked them for years "give us reasons to party up with people" and all they seemed to hear was "FORCE YOU TO PARTY FOR CONTENT, GOT IT"
Wow I am never going back to Palia General again, this channel makes so much more sense.
I mean do we really need an option to help our neighbor water their 9 garden plots?
The realist vs. the optimist
Welcome to the salt channel ♥️
I meaaaan... 
most of the co op content ive done in palia is made up by players that has nothing to do with s6 
if s6 cant read tos why should i care for their tos 
the most co-op I did was the cake parties, and then following a friend around all the time while they fished. 
I can't even call it the salt channel, these are valid and constructive complaints without being dogpiled
If I knew this channel was salty I would’ve been said my piece
I just find this discord server wholesome so I kept to myself and remained positive lol
Have you been holding back? 
YES 😭
Can I also mention that those growable furniture seeds are frustrating, esp since you HAVE to fully grow them to get ONE SEED back. So you can't have multiple of a mid-stage version of one of those furniture pieces...
THANK YOU

but it's not being Salty. These are real concerns (i won't even mention the home tours sadly looking at my 2 votes)
I remember once deffending myself on here in the main chat and I was told to "keep it cozy" and that "there is no space for hate so I should just move on" LIKE GIRL THIS IS SO FAR FROM WHOLESOME IF I CANT EVEN DEFFEND MYSELF AND MY OPINIONS LIKE WHAT 
you can still be nice and criticize them tbh 
also im shocked people still do tours 
I forgot tours existed ngl
Palia's solution to home tours was to make you pay for exposure. I can't even wrap my brain around that.
the toxic positivity in palia general is real
good they dont its trash system that s6 added to help increase numbers via botting
Definitely.
Like, I'm still glad they're slowly looking into accessibility stuff. Even if it's at a snail-pace.
I said my piece here #💬│palia-discussions message but, I wanted to add the only reason why I haven’t completed the strange thing afoot quest was because there’s no music and I want to get the full cinematic vibe for it 🙄
This chat is officially the real one for me 🫡
Hard same, I deleted PalGen from my server list
Just wish they would actually mention the word 'accessibility' on the patch notes, tbh--
“It’s still in beta” and “it’s a free game”
then I look into the camera like it’s The Office 
accessaility feels too little too late since most of the disabled playerbase has now left and written this game off, and a shepp for disability stepped down entirely
ive given up hope a long time ago for that
like if they bothered to reach out to players who have made ways to make their game work they might learn something 
I mean, you're not wrong. 
I do that when people tell me the same stuff. I have been here with this game for so long and this forsaken argument has not changed ONE BIT
They were quick to fix the flashing light bug because that was a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I have little to no hope still, but I still can't help but speak about it. I care about the players and it's just so important
i blame my autism-brain fixating on it tbh
Gulp I fear I was one of those people
At least you admit it, pal
yet they still ahve the flashy wardrobe stuff going on which will also lead to a lawsuit
most people are and then a while goes by, and theyre like "oh." 
I was in the beginning too...until I saw the light and walked toward it.
Ong lmao
I remember /halfjoking 💛
I say half joking, cuz i do remember our talks
theres alot of visual and movement issues as a whole that causes alot of issues but hey ho
I hope that's behind us
I was too 
i remember clashing with you too gabi. im really glad more and more are finally seeing what we've been saying since the beginning
I was blindsided by it still being in Beta, which was the beginning of me turning to the dark side.
I don't really hold grudges too often, so..
💛
All good, of course
Me when I finally see through the fog of all of those lies and execuses:
I can’t imagine how bad it is for those with disabilities playing this game. Like some of the sounds in game are so freaking loud Like I can’t stand the sound of the waterfalls and the flashing that happens just before you enter a new area!!!! Like what?? I noticed this and I thought to myself that this cannot be good for those with epilepsy
This game has absolutely given me seizures lmfao
It's the chewing bugs that get me
With Palia/S6 you gotta go thru the stages of grief 
Denial, anger, bargaining, sadness, acceptance
and then repeat as needed
I'm on my phone at work right now but abbreviated version of things I want in Palia since Ori mentioned ideas:
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Player trading via a barter system, you can trade items for other items of similar value or rarity
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Item sink initiatives, where players across servers could donate items to trigger in-game events like a firework show
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World events with unique resources that require co-op play. Meteor shower that happens some nights with flow-tree like ores, bug swarms where all of the bugs need to be caught to make a "queen" appear, etc.
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Alternate tools for each skill, such as a net for fishing that catches multiple fish at once but requires another player to help out, or fishing traps that allow you to place and fish passively, coming back later to collect a random fish
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Specializations in each skill you can freely change between but must level separately. For instance, mining might have one class that does more damage, one class that increases yields, and one class that helps locate nodes
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A revamped focus system that turns it into an active buff you can toggle on for increased resource yields, increased movement speed, and higher damage / reeling speed
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A skill tree to give small buffs to various facets of the game that you can put renown into to level up
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Buffs to skills from cooking, instead of just flat focus boosts, to encourage making other dishes
It's honestly super bad. And some of those are shown via gifs in the patch notes too, so I'll dm one of my friends who (i dont know if they still do?) played the game, to let them know as a warning bc of that reason.
Whats the chewing bug?
And there's Roan being an MVP like usual
Oh I’m so sorry about that D: 🫂
Eh just got new friends to preach by version of Palia to lol
i was a bit like that when i first started and my laptop was not great for this game... until i kept getting dogpiled on for not being able to chop and trying to ask for a solution to make it easier...
that was before i found out i have arthritis and i was going to legit mess my wrist up if i kept trying to go about it how i did
I think it's the stink bugs
Oh my gosh that’s horrible I’m sorry 
I have heard this from others before too sadly :(
I mean, very true. It's still just always so lovely to read tbh
OOOOOOH
Forreal about the cooking buffs though, all i ever make is sushi, fisherman's brew, and muujin bahari
Also, something else-- They don't mention a photosensitivity warning when you launch the game. They only reveal this when you first make an account. I feel like it should be very important, esp with the increase of flashing effects, to put a warning each time you load up the game.
im really sorry about that 😔
i wish they'd take the flashing light stuff seriously cause it is a lawsuit waiting to happen and then they wont have the ability to easily cover up or anything
They did try with the bug collecting world quest but I think that was all smoke and mirrors.
Just wanting to send my love over to you 
A simple toggle to shut it off would be good. I'm not physically bothered by it but I really don't like it all the same. I can't imagine not being able to play because of it.
Your brain is amazing!! I love the idea for focus buff because 9/10 my focus bar is always empty because it does nothing for me and cooking is such a chore sometimes lol
That's more love than I got from the ticket I submitted about the first seizure I got.

Love y'all, this chat rules
there's another thing too i remember. i was looking up how to make a celebration cake cause i was struggling a bit doing it solo. a video i found helped but the lady sounded really concending
like im lucky i can use an overlay and take long breaks from the game to ease the pain but the last patch when they upped the brightness killed me it took days of many people working on it to make it somewhat playable even now it still resets my settings and i have to suffer to fix them and pray it doesnt kick me to start all over again
i wish there was a way to turn off the "empty" sound with the focus (maybe there is?) but like for some of use to have high lvls and don't need focus anymore i don't want to hear that empty sound every single time i craft
Thank you!
Early on they talked about focus as being a "reward for having it but not essential" and then tied it to EXP which was just... Baffling to me lol
I remember this. And I still feel so awful that happened to you. 
I'm really hoping once the winter update comes thru on dec 3rd, it won't be as bad as that again
and on this: i asked in gen chat once about cake parties and i got dogpiled on by one or two about my social anxiety and they even mocked it and called me an attention seeker for it. (i cant remember the entire convo but it was bad)
play on mute the sound quality of palia is always been trashy 
thankyou!! this makes a lot of sense :}
I'm hoping Tamala will eventually have an "alchemy" skill of some sort for buffs but even so it's just bizarre that they didn't do anything for cooking.
what
im kinda scared incase they just throw a ton of white snow piles and mess with the lighting on them ahh yes snow blindess ingame just what i always wanted
yeah im not lying... it was pretty bad 😭
The wind and water blowing my ears out and the sernuk jump scaring me 😭
Question, if I date Hassian while I'm dating Tamala will she kill me?
Yeah, I don't know how bad it was last year cuz i was having big break from Palia during it... But i've also heard that the snowballs being thrown, was very flashy and blinding too.
Idk if they fixed that, or if it'll be different this season.. but just saying that as a warning. 
What the beans???
and the mods did help but it felt like i was still being blamed. but this was back when we had only one CM left... i think?
That's gotdang absurd... Genchat is toxic as heck
i played palia for 2 irl days with sounds (tbh not even 48 hours probs 8 hours) and never turned the sound back on since
All of us will get blinded by the snow just you wait. My eyes are sensitive as all hell and I have migrains often so I cant wait to play for like 20 minutes only to turn it off because of a headache 
seeing the word snowball instantly made my mind go to that one reddit post and im so dreading when they get added back in...
Gods I miss swearing.
Genchat can def be .. a place 
I look there every once in a while, in case people are asking a question that gets missed on accident, or something. Cuz general chat sometimes goes by fast, and i feel bad for new players/newcomers 
i think i know some people with some snowballs i could bother them whenever s6 bothers to reach out to fix their servers
It’s crazy how we only brew potions twice in game, but just imagine a hunting potion buff, or a love/ interaction potion buff, etc like hello!! And for lore reasons it’s not illegal for Humans to make potions 
the snowballs were still rly flashy a patch ago, no clue if they tuned it down this patch but I doubt it 
i honestly have some too that i never grabbed from my news lol
Yikes. So... more reason to stay on my plot. Got it
(thank you for letting me/us know)
I still have all mine 
I still have them I am pretty sure because I am a hoarder
Haha no, this isn’t really a big spoiler, but in her dialogue when you interact with her she says “Say hi to Hassian for me” as some sort of taunt lol
Hopefully they got the message from last year that people didn't like the snowballs.
The fall foliage gave me hope that there will be more than just some random white piles scattered around the map this year.
i got bonked earlier bc i used an acronym that i didnt even think about. some are just second nature cuz i dont even read them with the curse word. i just read it as like "Shut up" but faster 
yeah, why do we only have like 564654 fishing buffs lol
basically me i have a overlay that i use for most games since eh i dont expect game companies to make a base game preset just for me ill meet them half way but palia required days of work i am very lucky to have friends irl who can help me do these things when im suffering the patch when they went to 100 with the brightness and such i spent most of it on my bathroom floor tmi i know but it was so bad
I... really hope so. If not, I may try to just.. reach out to someone if I can. ...Idk if it'd do anything, but you know.
Can't hurt to try.
also i like how people have snowballs but i dont think i hate myself enough right now to test it 
Same 
What do you want to test? I have some but I never used them.
same same 
So what’s the snowball debacle? I joined right around holiday season last year so I think I missed out on it
I remember
Again, lots of love and hugs.
the snowballs flash bangs
but i think imma save that for another day 
very flashy and def can cause seizures. as Picklette said, pretty much like flash bangs.
i just had to suffer through gales which has its brightness set to 1000? for whatever reason? idk why they cant just take a month off to fix gales as a whole since its been a constant issue but s6 do what s6 do best~
Oh no, is gales also super bright? ok even more reason to avoid that place for me, i suppose
...
So glad I did all my temple stuff ages ago 
Question about Gales, did they add the map markers for it, because before I reset my game I don’t think they had them before
same but the new quest was bothering me all i have left is a shepp to yeet some screen clutter cas god forbid we want to not track quests
To me the snowballs sound like snowballs and it a very light flash of snow. Is it different for other people?
I know some people took issue that it's non-consensual player interaction. I quit well before they were actually implemented.
Well I have to agree with that. That's why I never used them. Seemed weird to go up to someone you don't know and pelt them with snowballs.
i just wish the npc's would react if you throw a snowball at them. that would be so cute and actually make me use them lol
Yeah that's kinda why I just kept them. Nothing happened with NPC's and hitting other players felt...
Sus?
Oooh because I hate when I purposefully hide my quest so my screen is clear only for the game to put it back on my screen 
exactly! let me pelt kenyatta and eshe with snowballs pls haha
Ok, before i get distracted (more), imma actually go do stuff i need to do 
Lovely chatting with y'all in the saltmines
npcs? to have character? in palia? pffft i forget their names and rarely talk to them since they seem so flat
It's the same when people shoot arrows in the underground. I mean...why????
Be safe!
I turned my gamma down before only because the world seemed too bright, even at night. I don't have light sensitivity, other than real sunshine kinda bothers my eyes. I prefer the dark or dusk in real as well as on my games 🤣🤣
Take care!! 
only thing npc's are useful for after max hearts is the guild shops and that's only a few of them anyway
Can I say that dating Kenyetta is the worse 😭
I went for Hodari tbh
even then its like eh decor items? i havent talked to jel for months till i started to see ace talk and i was like ah yes theres a npc i should talk to
And Hassian. 
I don't even remember what they sound like. It was kinda weird Subira saying random love things during the last quest. I forgot I romanced her.
I’m dating everyone just to max out the game, but god dang Kenyetta makes it difficult because she always talks about her mom lol
The real prizes are Tish and Hassian for me 👀
im going for reth whenever i finally decide to do that. tamala is gonna be my shepp
The only person I stop to chat with because he calls me "Darlin'" and I am a sucker for that 
Oh and Subria, I wish she could be my shepp 
im dating Hassian and Reth and ngl im loving the free food from Reth 😭 😂
fr i was so concerned at first when she started getting flirty
if subria could be my shepp im sure a lot would pick her
Ugh right I can't say the sh** word.
Interesting 👀 I was thinking for Tamala too because my character is a Witch themself but I settled for Jina
I am romancing all.of them. Jel, Reth, Hassian, and Jina are done. I have the pins for all the rest except Einar.
GODS I MISS SWEARING IT IS SO HARD TO TALK IN HERE LMAO
ashura is my shepp and i've loved that decision. also sticking with reth permanantly but i switch out my second pin occasionally
CURSE WORDS (POSITIVE)
I HAVE TO CONSTANTLY RETHINK WHAT I WANNA WRITE IN HERE LMAO
Man, I forgot who I picked. I think it was Reth.
I find alternatives to swears funnier sometimes
I think I picked Hodari as my shepp too 'cause I wanted him to like me
is the right click crop bug still in game? cause i just did it just fine
Ashura is my shepp too! I'm keeping Hassian's pin on. Not sure who will be in the 2nd slot permanently yet.
if they gave npcs some form of life to them i might be interested in their friendship since romance is just meh i dont have any attachment to any of them since they are just so badly written (yes i know kid game but you got some questionable story lines for kids going on you could at least give the npcs some form of life to them and not just pixels on a screen that do nothing)
I do wish some of these romance games would give an alternative BFF choice that gave the same rewards.
don't think so, guess they fixed it with the jina fix, worked for me again after the fix at least
i just wish palia had actual seasons or like weather or something. bc then they'd have a reason to change npc's routes or add more dialogue. like imagine fishing with einar NOT at the pond
I find that Palia is a millennial and gen z based game since the character we play as is an adult/ young adult!
like krobus!! we need more krobus
this tbh im very anti forced romance like i dont wanna space bar hero my way through it but they dont add much
I think some are still having issues but it worked fine for me earlier.
Who or what is that?
It has a lot of mature themes and innuendos 😏
I would melt if we had some occasional rain here and there. It's such a comfort weather for me.
or give the villagers differen outfits every other time...
npc from stardew that you can lvl up friendship with and ask to move in as a roommate instead of a spouse
body types when?
Yes! Something like that.
Rain would be good, but it will probably ruin your eardrumbs 
Rain would be great! I would love a good thunderstorm!!
GIVE ME CUBBY AND THICK CHARACTER MODELS NOW

i've submitted a good few feedbacks with ideas for weather patterns and such. imagine a thunderstorm at night on your plot with all the lights glowing 😍😍😍😍
I wish I liked top-down pixel games but I just can't get into it. Stardew sounds amazing except for that. lol
that's totally fair! to be fair it's moreso like viewing from the side but i still get it lol. 3d games can be more enjoyable
It's just too tiny for my eyes
I am going to try this one. My kids loved it so I've agreed to try it out while Palia gets their poop in a group.
For a game where you can customize your character youre sure left with a whole lot of nothing burger to choose from. Especially the black hair styles which are pretty mid in themselves 
Catching up on reading the channel cause I've been napping but oh god that one reddit post about the snowballs....
I need to have locs on my character effective immediately
I really like the My Time games and that has become my favorite franchise.
fr the new afro style could be so much better
Do you have the link 👀
BACKREADING AND YES PLEASE LET ME REPRESENT MY SHORT AND FAT SELF 
yeah, that's pretty ugly
isnt there a video on artstation with rain in it?
that person just pelting that person trying to get away and finding it so funny... eugh...
the post possibly isnt up anymore maybe? i havent looked at it in awhile
they could add light rain. It doesn't have to be any louder than the wind
I’m skinny as all get out, but I would love to see the diversity!!!! This player base is so diverse from many backgrounds and cultures and lifestyles, not everyone is a skinny twink 😭
i think a lot of ppl are gonna keep sounds off for a long time probably lol
https://badnuts.artstation.com/projects/2BLWdK
4th one down looks like rain 
I'll try to see if I can find it but if I can't, tl;dr someone did a writeup about how they stood at the entrance of Tish's shop pelting someone there with snowballs over and over and over
At a time where there was concern from some about how bright and flashy the effects were
And everyone in the comments was just like LOLOLO THAT'S SO FUNNY OF YOU XD
Im surprised the chat let me say twink 😭
OMG I WISH
Jel exists for a reason
LMAOOO!!

Well that's awful. I'm glad they took it out.
those ruins look way better then the blinding white we have ingame
i wish the ruins were like, a dark grey or something... im tired of the white and gold colors of a now long gone era...
Welp, watered my plants. That's my whole thing for the day.
The humans were about that pristine white life like every ruin is white to the max 😭
The afro hairstyle looks like wicks that were cut off. Very few games do a respectable afro. Devs should just leave that hairstyla alone at this point.
I honestly don't hear the music & sounds a lot because I blast rock tunes while I'm playing Palia.
THANK YOU I said something similar!!!
The new one they added or the curly one?
The new one.
the afro looks really cheap looking
I was like “S6 who is this afro for” 😭
The braid one is super cute
I didn’t have time to really look at the new afro
You wouldn't hear it anyway, it doesn't work.
Weird how that only happens with Black hairstyles 🙄
im so tired of some companies thinking they can do black hair and pull it off without feedback from those that actually have that hair type....
I would die for some loc options 😭
Right???? I’ll send them some pictures of my afros braids locs etc for reference because why do they look like that 😭
I made a mistake going on the reddit and immediately seeing cheerleader posts and "shut up beta" responses to the mildest criticism again kjashda sometimes idk what's worse, general or the reddit
Black hair is too “complex” apparently
The braided buns are okay. The parts are just a little too wide.
like they couldof just given us hassian and sifuu like hairstyles. those arent that bad but could be a bit better
Good thing, because I really didn't hear anything before the update broke it lol
YES
PLEASE 🙏🏾
There was indeed rain in an early test but it got removed like... Many other things I cannot go into more detail about due to an arbitrary NDA that is still in effect for some reason
Imma be honest I don’t know what the hell Reth’s hair is 
like sifuu and hassian's hair seemed to be made by someone who is black or knows black hair and i am happy.
honestly the NDA seems so moot at this point cause of how things keep going downhill
Other early access games are like "please talk about us and tell everyone, stream it to your friends!" And Palia was like "We must hide our shame!"
hippie dippie stoner vibes? Like forreal he's gotta be the dealer.
give reth long grunge hair please...
The Black coding for Sifuu and Hassian is amazing!! I was so impressed when I first saw them :D
I tell people all the time, if you want to draw black hair styles, watch videos of Black people doing their hair. The problem is artists don't learn how those hairstyles are achieved, so they just throw some blobs together and call it done.
reth's hair has always been weird to me. i feel like long messy hair fits him
The lips, the nose, YES!! 
... Why is this never talked about in Genchat?
I think you know the answer to that 
Thank you for sayin it cause I wanted to.

Because Gen Chat is nothing but smiles and rainbows and praise
something something genchat is whitechat????
I've been here since day 1 of open beta (which obv isn't as long as Roan and some others but when the population here grew) and some things have just never changed
i joined in... august i think?
If I say something i fear some people may not like it…
TELL 👏🏻 THE 👏🏻 TRUTH 👏🏻
Even before I grew disillusioned with the game I only really stuck to this channel because I'd get shouted down elsewhere for saying anything critical, which is how we unofficially became the grumpy channel 
I LOVE THIS
yoink I’m taking it
The player base is mostly white, more importantly millennial white women. As much as they would love to try if they cared to, they couldn’t relate to the struggle of Black and Brown representation. These things get overlooked frequently and when we do complain, we get told to shut up and enjoy the little representation we have.
Oh boo hoo Einar bot.
fr man. its so exhausting. like if you dont understand the struggle please shut up and dont try to talk voer those that do experience it or at least know about it
Really tho, should clarify I am a milkbender
a color redacted, if you will 
LMAOOO
wait people get shouted at for expressing opinions about character options that are meant for them? 💀 yall-
yeah most of the playerbase is just... really ignorant. like they really just are and dont want to hear about it
More often than not I’m afraid. But this was a general statement for the gaming community as a whole.
yeah i kinda gave up openly talking about stuff on the server and keep it more to feedback and smaller circles since i have to keep dms closed from this server only due to the hate bombing 
Sheesh I’m sorry 🫂
That is insane... sometimes i am happy I dont have any social media other than this because I would get so upset for others
The same thing happened to the disabled people. They had to stick to their own channel because of all the ableism.
I gotta get ready to go see wicked so, I will be right back :D
This is no longer Salty Chat™️
It is now Marginalized Chat™️ and people should start listening
OSHOOT enjoy!
im shocked i havent gotten crazy amounts of dms when i spoke up a lot... i guess im either lucky or i hit the block button in time
Gods I miss swearing so bad...
I just imagine you sitting like this and trying your hardest to hold all the swearing in:
im backreading but umm you already know im about to say i love that emote
im so annoyed with the flashy vfx..
be glad they be wild i just let them sit there and hope that those people are doing ok
OOP
WHAT??? I DIDNT EVEN SWEAR THAT TIME
@small olive SAW THAT 
Yeah... ... yeah...
jokes on them, i wont ever shut up 

so much joy rn
They give me so much joy too so LOL
literally how we bonded/became friends.
"omg relika that emote i love that so much"
I love that so much LOL
I witnessed this happening and I was like 😬
At the point now where when I see any form of spin emote, im like "i remember that spin emote from Relika" and associate it with you LOL
LOL
It was hard to stay civil and nice 
Palia discussion because minority celebration chat
I definitely dropped being nice at some of the worst of it LOL
Hopefully the devs / techs will note it and solve it soon because, i just submitted the report about flickering issue. 
You can't even have a normal friendly discussion in genchat about literally anything without it ending up with you being told you're toxic or arguing, thats not even talking about criticisms. There's a clear difference between discussing and arguing but if you don't agree with someone's take then you're arguing ig 😩
why you think i magically cant read 90% of the time 
I should probably learn that trick 
“I don’t like them pushing the cash shop so much-”
“The game is FREE. The devs need to make money and eat somehow! And this game is in BETA go play another game y’all are so negative”

At this point I’m gonna make a gen chat bingo card 
I'm so sick and tired of hearing "its free" and "its beta" to excuse away the excessive issues oh and "its indie!" Like ok no indie company starts out with 200+ employees and millions in money 
!doit
I couldn't even discuss Elousia last night without the person that dislikes her getting sensitive and saying we were arguing. Tiring, can't have a normal fun convo without someone getting upset
I make fun of Hassian all the time in chat but have to point out that it’s all jesting - before people start trying to fight me 
Yeah god forbid you dislike reth or hassian 
tbh i hear that so much in other games too “indie company” even the big ones as a joke. and over time it just got to me that it’s like disrespecting everyone who’s worked or is workin on the game and that it’s having a stigma that the game is low quality , palia is a great game yea it has issues and hopefully it all works out in time, but that’s the thing that they are rushing idk if it’s daybreak now doing it or if that’s just how originally it was to be but they need the time to make the game not as buggy as it is
i honestly dont get the love for hassian imo. he's such a jerk when you first meet him and always trying to push you away
i like characters like that but hassian just doesnt do it at all for me 😔
It's funny because I love Shane in Stardew but dislike Hassian so much
NO BUT SAME! i love shane too! i love his story! but i cant stand hassian
i think his story just falls flat on its face for me
I really kind of wish they would maybe close the game for a bit and just work on all the bugs. They really needed to take more time before putting the game out to the public, it's only gotten worse since it opened to public imo.
It has a lot of potential it just needs more time to work through things. 😩
We Shane fangirls stand together, he really progresses so much! Hassian just comes across as judgemental for me I guess. Too much broodiness.
hassian is like, that person that got hurt once by someone and now makes it everyones problem even if your just saying good morning to him
"Good morning? I had a good morning once.. before the incident.." kinda vibes 
Wait.. you dislike Reth? 
/j
Please do!!
Hassian is the embodiment of grumpy cat in Palia.
i’d say do the xmas update have in it something to fix the major issues (cooking, loading errors, and depositing to bundles/cauldron) and then take however long is needed to address the other bugs even if it goes into the new year, cuz last year they go on a two week? break for the holidays so they can take an extra time too and do whatever
How many spaces does bingo have 
but without any of the charm
gosh forbid you dont like tamala, too ... like, .. sorry not sorry 
like someone said push back one of the content updates and just work things out
i see so much tamala hate
I agree with this! Big bug fix only patches!
Count me in as a hater
like girly probably got hurt more then hassian did, is seen as a villain by the village and such. she has her problems but i love her so
25 I think
i mean, i hate her lol
But it's fine if ppl like her. i just dont like when ppl get upset at me for feeling the way i do.
i’m not like “i hate this character” i’m more like “ugh tamala pls stop being mean to me
“
Omg this, i really like tamala, it makes me feel sick when i see people calling her cruel names in chat, maybe thats why she is the way she is 
bug fix patch and for ppl who want something simply the color mods they have laying around, everyone would be happy and color mods would hopefully not break the game that much
i like it when shes mean to me /silly
like don’t get me wrong the character are well written to make me like/dislike them
This!
I think people either hate her or thirst for her. I don't mind her but she gives me Bayonetta meets Mother Gothel.
They’re just like the Majari’s (i think I spelt that wrong lol) in game smh
She's one of the characters i'm actually invested in learning more about because shes so interesting and isn't a flat character.
But her story is really interesting, I'll give her that.
yeah. she has smth going on unlike everyone else
i can’t wait to see where iit goes too
the one character i 100% cant stand is eshe tho tbh
just won’t romance her at all 
i get where they were going with eshe and i hope it turns around ><
I find the least interesting character to me is Nai’o
She's definitely one of the more interesting characters, and i'll give her that.
She just really gives me the ick, to put lightly. 
But like, again, ppl can like, love, hate dislike or whatever, whoever. As long as ppl are being civil and not actually arguing and picking fights, that's all that matters. 
Eshe is my bestie but I hate Tamala 
I started romancing her by accident and I just went along with it lmao
He's a bit plain at first, but he starts to open up and i honestly feel attached to him. He's just a himbo honestly. Big heart, and doesn't really understand a lot from what i understand. I just want ot hug him tbh.
Just your average himbo farm boy who loves to work and only work and work and work work
I always got the vibe/feeling that he has a lot of pressure on his shoulders, and im like ... oh honey 
i just cant get over how eshe is so mean to kenli im ngl
I was going to go for Naio first but the whole ||Kenyatta|| thing just put me off entirely 🤣
naio is my farming buddy
in my story where i’m goin with it he’s like that philosophical friend who says wise things but doesn’t realize that he said something, cuz all he thinks about is farming and (whatever the sport was i forget)
I see that! I completely maxed him out friendship wise, so I’m hoping his romance quests are interesting 👀👀
I’m not gonna argue with someone over liking/disliking a Palia character because.. what’s the point 
Sometimes I feel like.. if I disagree with someone in general chat they think I’m attacking them and their opinion????
yea everyone has reasons , some are personal too and that’s ok
I actually found him so boring when I first got introduced to him. I didnt even see the himbo side. I was just like "oh wow he's kinda... flat, huh?" in a sense. I mean, plus, i rarely ever like romancing ppl in games. big aro person here LMAO
It's why i gravitated to Einar, bc same vibes. Just us here vibing, not understanding anything & just enjoying eachothers company and learning stuff along the way.
This is the best Nai’o sum up ever 😂
I did feel bad when he || cried to me about messing up with his mom and Kenyetta || that’s a lot of pressure
He's just sweet tbh
Einar my beloved
This!
I 100% get why/how she icks people and why they'd dislike her and to me thats good story writing and part of why i like her. We WANT more grey characters in stories, it'd be boring if the characters didn't feel different/alive, it gives them personality, it feels like they did a good job representing an array of different personalities/stories/backgrounds.
I think this is where I started to appreciate him more and seeing him more than just "himbo" or "flat character". Definitely felt like there was more underneath
||the soup destroyed me cuz i got what he was feeling fr||
Was just about to say! || My soup healed his soul lmao ||
just out here trying to hold hands not understanding what it means, and just enjoying eachothers company
genuinely feel like Einar is good aro representation, personally. at least for me
yes i hope there’s others that are grey too cuz it can’t just be her in the whole
palia world
Ofc theres a sticker for this lmao
He’s so aroace coded - I love him!
it genuinely made me so happy LOL, im like "god yes i feel seen, let's just be best buds"
He’s the sweetest!! Whenever I flirt I always do the tamest option rather than the one liners! It just feels sweeter that way!
Yeah! And it seems like we'll meet some genuinely not so good people from the order/grimalkin side too based on story, i'm excited for that! Excited for more depth
The game really throws that LOOK IM FLIRTING WITH YOU EINAR bit at your face 😭
i want ones where it questions if you should really be friends with them, and see a different side of palia <.<
Honestly the way he reacts to it though, is where i really feel the aro rep. Because he doesnt fully understand it, and responds as if youre just saying a fact or something and im just like ... felt that
Wait till someone hits you with the "i don't want that or X thing because mah cozy game" 😩
Yeah, that's at least one good thing from it. It's important to have 'bad guys' in a sense (idk how else to word this), and not just complete good characters in a story. 
i doubt they go as dark as as “oh no you chose a bad character, time to make everyone hate you know” think with romance or friendships, but just ones that are morally grey and makes you think differently about how things work in palia
[Also, ty for not making me feel 'shamed' in a sense for disliking/hating Tamala LOL it's appreciated 🙏 ]
Ofc! 
That makes sense!
nah it’s all good, if this was a book club it’d be the same thing 

I already hated ||fire temple and wind temple||, what the heck is that..
I very much dislike Tamala as well; you are very much not alone there.
temple of fales you mean
Are you talking about the obstacle? ||If you fall 5 times, you can talk to Subira to skip it. They don't make it very clear.||
swear anytime that temple shows up there’s something with it
I feel like some folk get upset when discussing cuz they feel like you're arguing to change their mind, i don't want to change your mind about your dislike of tamala because its absolutely valid and understandable i just want to discuss the bad and the good cuz she (and other characters) are not one dimensional which is great.
And if you mean with the brightness, yep. it's so bright. I noticed that via screenshots and i was like ... oof lol
yeah i did that but now, i was confused in ||wind temple|| because its didn't point the way (compass wise) until i realized
||yea it wasn’t that good i almost ran around the whole place cuz even tho she mentioned feathers on low graphics they don’t really show up so i missed them a few times||
Exactly. I enjoy talking about characters. I don't really like.. ever want to change ppls mind? Other than maybe, having someone think of something in a different perspective (cuz i personally find, all types of perspectives interesting! Whether it's like, dislike, whatever. .. also to note, saying this in reference to characters in general, not Tamala in specific!).
But i never am like "omg im right with this and you should also dislike/like this character!!" 
It's why i at least like hearing ppl talk about more about her backstory, too, because I didn't get much itno it for personal reasons! But I at least enjoy hearing what ppl think about it, their thoughts and stuff, too. 
yea i think some just don’t know how to criticize or take in different opinions, it’s something learned cuz i seen that while in school you can’t be like “i hate this “ ok why?” “i just do”
100000% one person may read x thing and take it a certain way but someone else read that same thing and took it a different way, it's amazing to have different perspectives on what is going on/what something might mean or why a character did/said something or acts the way they do.
I get v passionate about interesting stuff though so maybe that puts people off lmao
We should be happy Palia didn’t release during the height of Kin lists 😭
It would be a lot more toxic
lmao i get you. I get like that all the time with like, Warrior Cats books. Huge hyperfixation, so i then start googling other ppls perspectives, thoughts, etc on specific characters. It's so fun and nice sometimes LOL
That speaks to me 
Do you have to catch the specific fish to get the plushie of it?
Or is it a random thing you fish up?
oh im so mad with this story 😭
Lol I feel this when I say I like tamala and hate eshe and hassian 🤣🤣
||im so mad at how lackluster that was and what the heck is that cliffhanger..||
You can fish a plush from any pond, including your home.
It's a random thing, it's nit attached to the fish. You can do it from any pond and use any bait and no bait...they all have the same odds
its basically meant to be a story "bridge"
a set up for the elderwoods story
b-but.. fine :p
why cant i do this?!
Building limitations, you're not able to make a perfect "loop". It is doable with glitching/ghosting but it can be a bit complicated.
thats my problem, why shouldt we be able to?
Yeah, I wish we were given more building freedom without needing to glitch
Same for placing buildings in a diagonal
I don't see why we couldn't be able to either
Specially when they make glitching/ghosting more difficult each patch too
it makes sense they dont want us to do that but why would they giv building options and not consider loops
Are you trying to attach a second harvest house in partucular?
Gotcha - would have suggested trying not to use a second harvest house if yes.
I hope they will eventually implement it somehow, considering they said they would implement attachable 2nd stories in the future.
You could possibly make a center area without fully connecting - I actually did this on my main plot if you want to check it out.
they should fix this before!!
would like to know how to
Well, we have no idea of what their plans are sooo... 🤷♀️
I just hope it doesn't take them too long, like how it took EA 10 years to give us rounded pools in the The Sims 4 (but no spiral staircases 🙃)
My plot is asymmetrical, but I have a large open space in the middle by having rooms to the left and right and then traversing upward before connecting the remaining space at the top with a gate.
ha! right?
I don't think the game will be around that long honestly But I would rather they fix the ongoing plot count issue first before they even decide implementing something like this. Or at least give it thorough testing.
In your case, you could just remove the middle room and have doors facing outside (and possibly using a gate).
May not be exactly what you're looking for, but it's an option to consider to work around it (without using glitch methods).
If you want to see a demonstration on how to do it, check coadredalerts video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPYDZuPbpg8&t=111s&ab_channel=coadredalert
thanks!
thank youuu
i have seen people only do it with the hallway pieces
Saddly the hallways dont let me do what i want!, tho you did give me an idea!
after completing the most recent and final storyline quest (as of now), ||i hope subira’s suspicions of the intruder being tamala is unfounded. i’ll be devastated||
even if it is, ||I bet it'll be a misunderstanding||
Anyone else experiencing crazy load time trying to log in to the game?
i could see that! ||but i could also see them following the other storyline. it would be so interesting and definitely add to the complexity of her character. but it’ll definitely feel like she backstabbed me if that does end up being true 😂||
imo, from what someone once said on reddit, it could be ||Taylin, Sifuu's wife, cause some people thing she's cursed and some of the hints also lead me to believe the intruder is hiding themselves for more than just their general identity. And plus, her being dead is mostly assumed||
oh that’s a wonderful theory!! that would be so interesting… i wonder how the turns will table 🤭
I want it to be this bc ||Sifuu disserves to be happy... and it'd help bring her into the main story again if her being that was true. Also, would bring a NEW mystery!||
oh totally, there’s so much that could be done with that storyline if that ends up being the case. you’re right, ||sifuu deserves better||
Uhhh pretty sure the lore was that ||Sifuu's wife is the beast in the Elderwoods.|| Though the lore isn't exactly watertight either due to them having multiple writers at the helm before, so...
it is more implied, and that's what I was meaning when I said that
Aliens.
probably a lazy option for counting overall connected buildings and if they are build in a loop they would count infinitely and probably crash 
Is it just me who feels like Tamala groomed Hassian? 💀 Cus that is the vibes I was getting the second the story about them being together once was revealed to me. Not that I hate her but the SECOND I heard she was with Hassian I went like "STRANGER DANGER" in my head 
its honestly so hard for me to really get behind that tbh. they're both adults. i wish theyd give us actual ages so it doesnt feel like some weird rumor or speculation or such... idk why they cant just come up with a random age instead of vague "young adult" and etc...
It wouldn't have been much better if Tamala and Ashura had a past relationship.
When you get to be Tamala's age, any relationship with a living male of any age automatically qualifies you as a cougar.
i havent done her story so i honestly dont know how old she really is. its hard for me to really pinpoint anyones age in this game with the really vague descriptions
100% agree. If I knew at least how old everyone is then I would make an assumption on how long Tamala and Hassian could've been together. It just feels icky to me when she speaks of him so sweetly in such a sarcastic tone since I know how hurt Hassian got from being with her 😔
sad
yes. and it doesnt matter how old anybody is-- anybody can go through that. and it's why i avoid her & didnt continue her story personally. but im going to leave it at that bc this is a pg 13 server lol
This is sort of what i thought and got the vibe from, too. It definitely felt more implied than concrete, though. 
||Hassian said he saw the beast but was unable to shoot it because it seemed familiar. (the eyes)||
Tamala made me extremely uncomfortable after I finished the three friendship quest by delivering the 'cake'. I had to haul butt to Hodari for the comfort after dealing with her.
Morning chat! :D
There’s another thing I noticed today about the game, Zeki’s general no longer plays the door jingle when you enter or leave 😭 It used to for me even without the game music playing
I think this update broke some sounds, cause fishing ploink and bob sounds don't play for me anymore in most waters
Yeah the patch... it fixed some things but broke a good few other things too
When fishing, I'm only having sound issues when fishing at the star nodes.
I feel like I never heard any music playing through the game... Or it was completely sporadic for some reason.
I never have the music on thh
I don't really care for the music myself. Sounds a bit too generic for my taste
I have it muted too because music in games often is distracting for me. I just have the sound effects on.
I hate this is a thing because I have not enough patience to just stare at my screen to see when the bobber goes down, I go by the sound cue and in the meantime watch vids on the side
but now I have to stare at the water if I want starred fish 😔
I'm almost scared to ask but has the game been unborked yet?
i finished the gardeners oneness quest like a month ago and I still don't get flow seeds from my statue, anyone that can help me understand?
try picking it up in inventory and replacing it, it’s random though so it could just be bad rng
Same!
The only game where I keep the music on is animal crossing, because I don’t have an option to turn it off 
Hello all! Has anyone done Tish’s lvl 5 friendship quest? I’ve got the ingredients to make the potion but there’s no option to use it :”) I tried asking tamommy for permission and she said no 😭
It seems that quest is broken right now 
No way really 😭
Yep, half of everything is broken 🥲
Oh no 😭
omg ace demon hiiiii ❤️
We gotta start listing what does work at this point
Yeah, unfortunately. I've seen people say they can't interact with the cauldron or what you said too, I think its maybe because there's a food item required that's broken?? Hard to say 
Hello hiiii :D
how do you do?
Loaded into a blank screen on Palia again, so I thought I'd check on what else broke in the last 12 hours 
I’m able to log in but I cannot leave my plot
I was able to make the pie and consume it and stuff
I got past the login page, and just
Darkness 
Also I’m at freaking MAX GOLD and I can’t leave to buy anything! 
AYYYYY CONGRATS ON HITTING THE GOLD CAP
Yeah I’m totally rich 
But at what cost 
I want to buy those like.. landscaping things and the logs
I refuse to buy Zeki coins 
Sorry, feeling silly. Didn't mean to become The Gif Spammer. Byeeeee

You're fine fern lmao
that’s like this commercial on the radio “it’ll be faster to list what we don’t have! cricket noises”
Based on what I'm reading, no 😛


It's kinda wild that they haven't... Like... Said anything
too many fs to list
Their usual channels of communication have also been disconnected from the server 
i feel it’s like they came back from the weekend like “uhh…oh no” and just hid until they got some kind of idea how to tackle things 
Womp womp
Wait what do you mean? /gen
I wonder if they just... Gave up and went home 😂

Perhaps the fact that we don't have CMs here anymore? /also gen /speculation
They might not even know what the issue is so they're just staying silent. 🤷♂️
Rather than being like "we have no idea what's going on or how long it'll take to fix good luck everyone"
Waiting for them to pop out with “here’s a plushie/potato pod for your troubles”
Last time wasn't it "here's the incorrect vegetable seeds for an unimplemented crop that has no use or in-game model?"
I swear to God if they give me another potato pod. I could not care less about potato pods. Lol
Ya know what I really want? I want my unicorn fish.
Anyone else have terrible RNG luck with the fish plushes?
meee

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