💬│palia-discussions

[dire kraken]

it didn't work hahahaa

[celest maple]

one star before and after the word, right next to it with no space

[dire kraken]

SORRY I MEANT INGAME i wasn't clear enough ahhh

[celest maple]

OH

Idk about that LOL sorry

[grand matrix]

Not sure if this is the right chat room to ask, but I’ve been away from Palia for awhile and just wanted to clarify that zekis coins are collected once per ingame day, or is it once per real time day

[soft burrow]

once per irl

[grand matrix]

Thank you

[silent sundial]

is the petite fives bugged? I tried doing the fruit compote stuff on the stove and I was hitting the quick time event but it ended up with it being ruined because it didn't do it in time, but I spent about 20s doing the stove while everything else was done

[hollow crescent]

i’dk if cooking is still buggy? sounds like it is best would be to relaunch game or if you can have a friend over to help make incase that happens, that’s what i had to do when i was helpin my sis with muujin bahari i couldn’t work the stove

[thorny mica]

Hi, sorry. Does anyone have a Poke Bowl recipe and would like to cook with me ? I need it for weekly gifts and I'll provide all of the ingredients

[odd pine]

you get one per irl day but its mailed to you next palian day 🙂

[versed dove]

anyone know how to fix audio bug? my tool doesnt have any sound effect ingame

[shadow echo]

reload in

[versed dove]

okay that fixed it

thanks

[young ermine]

It just amazes me how some people can get ruby’s with no trouble or certain bugs, yet others can try and try and never succeed.

My son has tried since December to get a Ruby with no luck. I try for the Duskwing and nothing but have at least 6 ruby’s. Even the buzzy jar shows nothing in the hollow. The lures bring nothing!

[hexed cloak]

Does the buzzy jar even ping duskwings? They're categorized as "uncommon" in the game, and I think buzzy jar only pings rare and epic

[young ermine]

The lure should bring some. I’ve put out 6 in the past week

[versed dove]

i just found my new money maker, since im relatively new i cheked tips and trick on palia on which is the best way to make money. while mostly say fishing and farming, i kinda disagree and i think the "best" is actually just crafting/using crafter.
which is glow worm farm, i know the main objective of the farm is the glow worm bait but the side product A.K.A harvest boost fertilizer is quite profitable

[honest scarab]

Yes, 6 honey lures should have netted you at least one Duskwing by now. Double check to make sure you are dropping lure at right time in best location. The drop rate for Duskwings used to feel like it was a rare even epic bug, but I'm convinced it was fixed in a recent patch. But I understand disheartening bad luck streaks, I've had some in this game as well. I found rubies star/non-star fairly easier but it took me 4-5 months to get one star emerald and I play a lot of hours and mining has always been one of my highest skill levels. Very frustrating.

[charred hound]

anyone else feels like the plot item limit should be raised since they added all these paths?
they take up so many spaces especially if you want to have some of the smaller pieces its gonna add up real quick. I feel they kind of overlooked this fact when adding the paths :/

[modern rock]

a lot of people want the limit raised but 3000 already causes huge performance issues on switch/lower-end systems so it doesn't seem likely unless they can afford to put a ton of dev time into optimizing the game more. (which i imagine they can't with their current number of staff)

[charred hound]

I understand that but it still feels like a massive oversight that should be addressed in the near future. especially as they add so much more to the game decoration wise.

[lavish ferry]

I think, if I remember correctly, you select the text and then right click on it

[dire kraken]

ooh i'll try that next time thank you!!

[modern rock]

ideally yes, realistically probably not. i think they're having a hard enough time already just keeping up with bugs/tech issues plus putting out enough content to keep people interested

[robust fox]

anyone else having issues with not being able to pick up ome hunting loot drops

[jagged tangle]

yes that is a known issue

[weak wigeon]

Is the crafting stations limit shared for every plot or does each plot have one?

[loud axle]

Loot's still glitching through the floor sometimes? That's been an issue for years...

Though maybe it got fixed at some point and then a recent patch brought it back, as that seems to be a recurring issue as well lol

[loud axle]

Crafting stations from one plot count towards the limit for other plots as well.

[weak wigeon]

Goodbye to my idea of making a plot just for mats production xD

[loud axle]

Yeeeep. I suspect it's probably because they're still "running in the background" even when you aren't on that plot.

[fiery perch]

It's that, or you can see it, and you get the prompt, but it won't let you pick it up haha

So it's just there taunting you.

[potent willow]

Does anyone know if they will fix the Butter Flyer hairstyle bug in soon? I still cannot use mine even tho i bought one of the sets :/ Or do I need to write a ticket or something?

[fiery perch]

I'd write a ticket

[runic eagle]

I submitted a ticket about it back on the 12th and have yet to get a response seems they are backlogged a bit with tickets atm but if I hear back from them soon I'll post my reply.

[versed dove]

is there a way to trade asside the Request item thingy? im in desperate need for blue marlin and long nosed unicorn fish, i cant seem to catch them

[runic eagle]

Not atm but you can always try asking others here https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1165767164175863939 as long as you have caught one before.

[bitter magnet]

I'm wondering how everyone would feel about a pay to increase plot item count plan? Ive run out of ability to place flowers , with a plot that's only 2/3 complete. I'd be willing to pay extra for an increased item count on my plot. Judging from the amount of cosmetics purchases I'm seeing, other players probably would too.

[robust current]

I always imagine that the one you can't pick up has a plush 😅

[robust current]

You can't ask for what you haven't managed to get yet... But if you got it and sold it, then just ask for it... There are always people donating to those in need

[robust fox]

as it was 3 blue mujins id hope not

[weak wigeon]

Hey! Does anyone have to click the button to fill request more than once?? I sometimes have to do it twice or even three times cause it just doesn't go through

[slender crown]

Yes

I don't know why that is

😁 Sorry I am always talking about food . IRL it takes forever to cook stuff because we don't do processed or pre-packaged foods. All fresh stuff 🥬 . Cept beans , we get them dried. No food hoarding or piling freezers full of stuff. Have to be food-creative sometimes. This is why it's just fun to come up with a faux Palia food recipe based on what palia has available. I even have a tea menu for a faux tea time at Caleri's library.

[sudden bay]

The thing is I believe the limit is an issue right now with the game itself, not that they don't want to give it to us. They have to make sure the game is playable cross platforms.

[bitter magnet]

@sudden bay I'm sure it's just a matter of server capacity, which can always be upgraded

Switch platers will never have the same experience as pc players

[sudden bay]

I'm sure they will increase it sooner or later. Would I pay for it? No. I don't want the game to be pay anything except cosmetics and those that can't afford it miss out. I was upset when Disney Dreamlight went pay to play.

[bitter magnet]

Ok..thats the purpose of my post. Want to see what people think. Thanks

[modern rock]

if it was as simple as upgrading server capacity couldn't they just have done it already? they've previously said it's the switch performance issues which are the main factor in not increasing the limit. of course switch players can't get the same experience, i think people are willing to accept the game won't look the same visually, but the severe performance issues switch players experience with the current plot limit are a different ball game

[signal kayak]

so, i know that they just increased gold and renown, what are the odds that they will increase it in the future?

[sudden bay]

I would guess they will once they get performance optimized. I mean they backbone of the game is decorating and if they keep releasing things they will have to increase the limit at some point. When is anyone's guess.

[signal kayak]

the current switch is a potato with a screen attached. switch has always suffered graphically when it came to games that are on other platforms. i'm expecting maybe a graphic update once the switch 2 comes out and is proven to be stable, because i'm no where near plot limit, will have a lag spike if i just stand on my plot for a long time. leaving and coming back fixes it

[sudden bay]

I don't think I could play on switch. I barely play games on my phone because the screen is too small and I never was good at working controller type games like XBox.

[modern rock]

tbh i really regretted buying a switch lol. not because it's graphically weak, because some devs have put out some very good looking games on it, but others look like something from several console generations ago. it's also not as portable as the ds/3ds and a lot of the games are available on PC anyway while the ones that aren't tend to be pretty expensive. i've ended up barely using it.

i do hope the switch 2 is a big improvement and palia will move onto that

[signal kayak]

more than likely, the switch 2 would be backwards compatible with the regular switch. it's somewhat the only thing that i really like about the switch besides being able to move around with it

[sudden bay]

I really don't understand the decision to not make some things be able to be modified. The Flotsom set would be cute in other colors. Also not being able to put anything in the ratan baskets either.

[tiny nimbus]

wish we could put the fishy in the tub

[vagrant star]

That'd be amazing!

[bright ledge]

does it fit in the moonstruck tub?

[tiny nimbus]

oh my god it do

[bright ledge]

turn the waterrr on

[tiny nimbus]

i did XD dwdw

[wicked locust]

If someone gets a lunar moth plushie while im in party with them, doesnt that mean i would get one too? (i didnt?)

[bright ledge]

did u loot the bag

[tiny nimbus]

from what i know you should, there might be a radius thing i dunno

[wicked locust]

not sure, all i know is we were luring and i was looting as much as i could

[olive carbon]

Turn the water off, place it, then turn it back on. This is how I've seen others say it works!

[tiny nimbus]

oml you are right it worked

[olive carbon]

You have to be within 30m of the party member to get the same loot drops

[wicked locust]

we were next to each other

[tiny nimbus]

seems like a bug no pun intended c':

think you shouldve gotten it

[olive carbon]

Party system has been very, well, buggy lately too sorry friend!

[spice seal]

Ummmmmm I think some stuff is missing

[olive carbon]

[spice seal]

Cause like shoot I know Zeki wants to pay off his debts but someone has got to talk to him about stealing.....it's getting out of control 😂

[tranquil scroll]

should i put each villager on a wheel and spin it to pick my shepp. ik it doesn’t do basically anything but I’m still overthinking tf outta it 🫠

[normal saddle]

Free the ancient fish! Let him swim!

[polar elbow]

I'm making a wild baseless guess here, but I wonder if shepps might have exclusive rewards later down the line.
Like exclusive furnishings or plushes or something, etc
I picked sifuu so that if that does happen I'll probably get some more sword decor or something LOL

[cinder temple]

I'd riot, being that you can't switch Shepps after you pick them.

[tranquil scroll]

ughh im torn between ashura, sifuu, hodari, zeki, or hassian

if you could pick tau that’d be my first choice

[open radish]

is there any pvp in palia ?

[swift storm]

when are they gonna make it so u dont turn off the stupid lights unless u are looking directly at them instead of accidentally turning off ur ceiling lights all the time when they are literally offscreen

[umbral lynx]

Nope

[open radish]

and pve ?

[signal kayak]

another question, when are they going to change it back that the lights are automatically on when placing them? so tired of having to jump on furniture to turn on the dang lights i place

[umbral lynx]

I mean they have temples but they don't have much in terms of combat

The only combat is like hunting deers and wolves tbh

[vagrant star]

And whatever the real-life equivalent of chapaas is... squirrels?

[umbral lynx]

I remember someone called the white ones exploding hamsters

[vagrant star]

Good name, fits XD
Though they're too big for hamsters...

[umbral lynx]

I know the concept art had them hanging from trees by their tails too

[swift storm]

i feel that u_u

[rotund peak]

Genuine question:

Why does the home teleport have a cooldown?

Agreed. At least there's no stamina limit in running lol

[hybrid coyote]

kinda wish you can put how many of a dish you want to cook. Like let me cook 10 grilled meat at once and come back when they are done lol

[rotund peak]

Another thing (or maybe I just dk), it gets tiring clicking 50 times just to get convert my sapwood to blocks XD I feel sorry for my mouse...

[hybrid coyote]

I right click anything that needs to be made like stone and wood

[rotund peak]

Yeah I knew that but for example, I just want 10 of this specific stuff instead of getting 100 of it yknow but no biggie actually haha

[hybrid coyote]

fair. I know my space bar hates me how many times I click it when talking to people.

[misty widget]

I feeeeel this, I wanna pick Ashura bc dad vibes and his whole sitch🥲but I’m so curious how this progresses based on who you pick!!

[mystic forge]

was there a new Quest Added? i got another Ancient ....thing? again but don't see a new quest

[regal charm]

Hey quick question. So the Shepp thing.
It's not like a permenant, super important decision right?
It's not like "Oh you get this questline from only this character!"
I can pick basically anyone?

[soft burrow]

it's a permanent choice for now, but nothing big happens to to you other than some dialogue shifts during the christmas event. most people just pick the character they like the most

[regal charm]

Okay cool. So just whoever I like the most or whoever I get to level 4 with first. Okay

[modern rock]

just a duplicate quest item, it happens sometimes, you can throw it in your storage

[versed dove]

i havent caught any thats the problem

[sudden gyro]

I think because it doesn’t cost any gold, for example you have to find a post in order to pay 10 gold to get home which gets you to stay on the game longer because you have to first find a nearby post😭

[willow vector]

Probably to prevent some kind of server overload

[raven scroll]

How do we deal with “housing limit reached”? Am I just screwed? I put down more blocks today but I have so much more I want to build. Is there any way around this?

[soft burrow]

there''s no way around it other than removing stuff

[versed dove]

anyone from Asia have comunity that i can join?

[tired shoal]

i just joined, so maybe this is dumb, but how do i get a glider? lolll

[soft burrow]

if you follow the main quests, you'll get to the tutorial for the glider!

[tired shoal]

tytyy!!

[soft burrow]

try #1135682474324807681 !! there's a lot that divide by language and country there

[civic slate]

Would anyone like to join a server of a group of people to play the game with?

[proven sky]

OOC: So I'm sure it's been talked about before here. But holy crap Ashura's lvl 5 quest hits hard.||I was lucky to not be in that position myself, but sadly know people who were. And seeing how they fell apart after was heartbreaking. Whoever at S6 wrote out that quest brought that from a dark place and it took me a bit to recover from reading through that.||

[reef sparrow]

Do you guys think we have or will have gotten the 25 million bugs? Personally I think we will get it but I'm so nervous since we can't see the count 😅

[reef sparrow]

I haven't gotten to that part yet but thank you for the heads up lol

[grand matrix]

Any tips for getting the sernuk and mujin plushies!?!

[signal kayak]

no tips, just rng

[grand matrix]

Can the sernuk plushies drop from both kilima and bahari sernuks?

[signal kayak]

can use a hunter's horn on the magic creatures to keep track of them but that's about it

yeah, they can drop from either location

[grand matrix]

Ok thank you. I’ll get back to hunting then 🤣

[signal kayak]

yeah, the plushies drop by rng, you either roll the dice on the number you need or you don't. there's no way to force the drop

[proud frost]

okay real talk, how do yall manage your storage? i feel like it’s always full 😭

[mossy jetty]

sell all the common fish and bugs, keep only 2-3 of the rare ones (I usually keep a few more of things people request often), keep no more than 200 of any wood, keep whatever you can in the corresponding machine (so for example wood in a sawmill), always sell flint (i feel like I'm always selling it and still have at least 200 more to sell any time i check)

[pearl wave]

wait wrong channel, eh...

[tranquil scroll]

i made einar mad in his lvl 3 friendship quest and now i want to sob

[unkempt crow]

omg nooooo

[sour cove]

I'm I the only one who can not log on? It saya my password is wrong. But when I go to the palia.com website and log on my password works? Any ideas anyone?

[cinder comet]

also check for spaces in the email field

[worn basalt]

Did we make it to Bugapoolza 25 mil?

[reef lynx]

we will know in about 3 hours

[hybrid coyote]

I'm sure we did. Think they said we were over 20 mil yesterday

[reef lynx]

yeah they said that 2 days ago i'm sure we're over 25mil by now

[hybrid coyote]

with how many honey lures I saw being popped last night. its a sure bet we got it. Plus some friends were trying to get the bug plush lol

[toxic pivot]

i didnt get any plush during this i did try though

[hybrid coyote]

the bug event one hasnt dropped yet but there are other bug plus that you can still try to get with random drop catch.

[toxic pivot]

yeah i had 3 of the 4 bug plushies before the event even started but ive had none drop during this 😦 i wanted extras of the green lantern bug one

[hybrid coyote]

i try to grind the green one last night and after 50 plus it being 1 am I went to bed lol they are still drops though so grinding more today

[olive swan]

Coming back after a long hiatus and have some questions.

1. Major changes to the game? Not including minor content updates such as recipes.

2. Can you attach a porch to the main door of your home?

3. Best way to make money?

4. What time do the glow trees come up again?

[toxic pivot]

1. certain npcs have lv.5 friendship quests now wich have a nice concluesion, flowers and not sure how long youve been gone but more temples

2. No but the new house building has a porch attached, is very large and comes with a (still quite bare) upstairs. that you can use instead of the basic harvest house.

3. IMO still farming, though they rebalanced a lot of things to make it earn better

4. midnight ingame in bahari.

[lyric night]

just fyi bcs I feel like a lot of ppl still think the plushies are time limited. They are NOT
the plushie drops are a permanent addition to the game

[toxic pivot]

i know they arnt, thankfully. esle id been in royal pain with the sernuks (they hated me but i got all 3 now, just need to bribe zeki for the 4th)
but it was kinda my motivator to try and get extras. but 💔 this games rng hates me

[olive swan]

Thank you!

Do you know the name of the building?

Which crops are best for selling?

[toxic pivot]

Grand harvest house, its like 11x25 big, its gigantic.

experiment my farms msotly "as little maintenance a spossible, while focussing on tomatoes to pickle, but i know theres other crops that have higher values. may wanna ask in the farming section

[olive swan]

Thank you!

[signal kayak]

if you have it, hunter's horn in south bahari will show you were it is. i did a massive loop from the gate from kilima and followed the road down toward the beach and then headed towards pavel mine when i reach the lighthouse area then circle back around. the best way to hunt them is with the dispel or slow arrow, sneak up as close as you can and then when they startle shot them. this will stun them to make it easier to hunt

[shadow echo]

In my opinion slow arrow is easier than sneak, easier to clock the slowed chapaa, cause stunned is not that good

[acoustic ember]

Bug count results?

[lyric night]

in ~20 mins

[loud axle]

I mean I guarantee they'll say you got it, I'm not sure they've actually been tracking or not but they wouldn't dangle the carrot and then be like "oops too bad lol"

[pliant wedge]

I'm so upset, I'm packing to move across the country rn and I opened my game just after the deadline to get the bug catching rewards passed. I caught so many bugs and now I don't even get the plushie ;_;

[lyric night]

log in reward duration starts in 10mins

[pliant wedge]

Seriously?? I thought it ended at noon my time maybe I misread

Oh my god it's just smoke bombs

Nvm I'm crazy and my life is in shambles 😭 Ty for the correction

[acoustic ember]

I mean they've been posting updates with counts a few times. I'm sure we'll get it as well but still

[lucid hornet]

there is no way that they wont give the reward, well at least if they didn't layoff their whole marketing team

[loud axle]

Indeed, I just don't know if those were actual numbers or made-up "y'all are on track!" statistics. 25m in 7 days was 3.57m per day so the numbers they've posted have been just ahead of the curve both times.

[modest merlin]

romaine calm

I sincerely someone at S6 got a promotion for this.

[vagrant star]

News just now, we got it!
Also, looks like the lettuce was a bug.

[nimble crescent]

how many people in here are romancing reth? - because I'm actually curious lol

[fickle shoal]

I am 🥰

[hallow jackal]

Where did the big frog go in Kilima?

[hallow jackal]

Me!

[hasty stream]

I just got juniper amber. What is this for?

[hybrid coyote]

hop away

[vagrant star]

Reth's and my opinions differ on this - I'm not planning on romancing anyone, but he's asked a few times by now.

[nimble crescent]

me too! - what stage are you? - i just got the pin myself

[hallow jackal]

I’ve finished it and gotten his picture

I have it right next to Kenyatta’s 😊

[nimble crescent]

i do find that kinda self absorbed lol - like do they just have these things lying around their house waiting to give it to someone? 🤣

[hallow jackal]

I think it’s cute! But I know what you mean lol

[acoustic ember]

Fair. Made up or not they posted a "specific total". I'll stay gullible and believe it

[woeful dust]

I'm romancing Hassian right now, can I romance reth and/or subira without upsetting anyone?

[nimble crescent]

idk the answer to that but a youtuber has answered what happens if you romance reth and tish at the same time 😂

[woeful dust]

Also, are they sitting around at home crafting little DIY romance pins of themselves?

[left horizon]

Yes you can! None of them knows ( or maybe even cares). They won't say anything to you about it

[nimble crescent]

https://youtu.be/I41p-oooV84?si=jyIB60wtxMBdBmsD

[left horizon]

What happens????

[nimble crescent]

this is what I'm asking! 🤣

let me just frame a picture of myself - because I'm so cool 🤣

[woeful dust]

I had a roommate that had a framed Pic of her senior yearbook photo, and it was the proof copy so she didnt even pay for it

So maybe not that farfetched 😄

[nimble crescent]

i think the only thing that kinda comes close to this is a school picture that I have of myself from when I was back in primary school (ages 5-10) - this was almost 15 years ago as well 🤣

[vagrant star]

You can romance anyone you want at the same time without serious negative consequences, though I think Tish and Reth comment on it being a bit weird that you also date their sibling. Doesn't stop you from doing so though.

[nova jewel]

Who's gonna tell the social team that lettuce and cabbage can't cross-pollinate

[peak spear]

Personally do not like how they timegate getting items. When the devs originally spoke about not wanting players to have FOMO

[weak wigeon]

25,015,667 wow that was... tight

[lyric night]

that was only for their premium store tho

[peak spear]

Not talking about that. Talking about the plushie. I do not have internet to get the plushie in time. Life being well... crapola atm

[woeful dust]

The alternating hygreangea colors outside of the library imply that someone is very carefully applying acidic and basic fertilizer to the plants

[peak spear]

Tried downloading the update with my phone hotspot and it would take over one hour to download. Cannot do that

[woeful dust]

I wonder if those specific rewards will be awarded again or if they'll be available from zeki's balls

[nova jewel]

That's me on a typical update day even with fiber internet. My ISP (small co-op) throttles large downloads.

[lyric night]

yeah but their no Fomo was always regarding the premium shop. thats what I mean

[peak spear]

[fringe dome]

its was a little unclear if the lettuce seeds were an accident or if there is a bug...? o-o im lost... what do they mean " cross- pollinated" ???? i thought it was intended to be early before their update

[lyric night]

basically that they mixed up the crops
they were not meant to be given out but seems like they want to add it in the future patch, maybe with the next, we shall find out tmrrw when they usually post their patch preview

[olive swan]

Game not letting me me. Saaaad.

[woeful dust]

I wonder if that indicates they need to make the icons more distinct from the cabbage...

[forest fossil]

Is there a plushie that's easier to get than others or not rly?

[vagrant star]

Hmm, there's one or two that you get from friendship quests, and right now there's that bug catching community one that's basically a log-in reward...

Other than that, depends on what you find easy/hard to do. I think drop rate for normal and elder sernuks is the same, but obviously normal ones are easier to hunt, so I guess that plushie would be easier as well?

[forest fossil]

That's fair. I kinda thought that but wanted to see what everyone else thought! Thank you 🙂

[weak wigeon]

What's the flow seed drop rate from ||the gardener statue||?

I didn't know you get flow seeds when you plant them and grow them all the way until last week so i've been just getting them from it and i got a good amount, but a friend of mine said she hasn't gotten many, so i'm wondering cause i read it's a high percentage but i'm not sure now

[woeful dust]

I just got mine Tuesday, so my drop rate is at 000% 😄

[fringe dome]

tyyy ❤️ i wish they would give us heads up on updates. it feels like im guessing randomly when they will 'hotfix' or update

[lyric night]

update is always towards the end of the month on tuesday, most of the time tuesday last week of a month
they are always doing a preview the week before an update happens, mostly on fridays but sometimes on thursdays

[fluid wren]

I have a small question, if anyone knows - I'd appreciate it XD

I asked for Helka's "weekly want" - she told me Jina likes butterflies. I tried to give both of them a butterfly, neither wanted it.

<_< am I doing something wrong? D:

[tough hound]

First, you have to check which kind of butterfly it is, and then make sure you're giving it to the right person.

[fluid wren]

Ohh, she didn't specifiy. She just said butterfly. D: I assumed any would be ok but I've only ever seen the common blue ones

[mossy jetty]

kind of spoilers but if you want to check wants online you can do it here for example https://www.paliatracker.com/

but it gives you all the wants so depends if you want to know or prefer to just ask the characters

[tough hound]

Oh, okay. You can look at the relationships tab and it will show you. I am pretty sure Gina likes brighteye butterflies atm. The weekly ones are also updated on the official wiki. 😊

[nimble crescent]

look how adorbs my little porch is looking 😊 ❤️

[leaden bolt]

s6??? lmaoooo

[slow dragon]

same thing happened to me today

[south glade]

I am not 100% sure, but I think that just logging into your account on palia.com counts to get login rewards. I got a Founder's Windmill because I created my account in the time frame, but I was unable to download the game on me PC, so I never actually played the game until it came to the Switch in December. It is at least worth trying.

[lyric night]

the founders mill was rewarded until the end of last year, so switch players were also able to get it

[south glade]

So much for that theory. 🙂

[midnight totem]

loool hope your not scared of heights

[dire river]

Guys, I think I found a celeb in-game.

[zinc goblet]

anyone know if they will be adding subira to the shepp list? i just now noticed she is not on ther and was wondering if its purposeful or was just not implemented

[serene barn]

From my knowledge Subira is a visiting character and therefore cannot be a Shepp because of that. She has been in Kilima for awhile, but she is still technically visiting on behalf of the Order to conduct an investigation.

[zinc goblet]

yeah, once i realized shes not on the shepp list i had the feeling it was purposeful

i never looked it up and was waiting to ask her and now im like NOO

[serene barn]

Oh no!!! I'm so sorry!

[north steppe]

Hello there
What the states about switching gender ? Does the team stated something about it ?

I found on Reddit that been added to the game 🎉

[lyric night]

u can use the big mirror in jels shop (tailor shop) to change ur appearance once a week

[nimble crescent]

see this confuses me because you can also romance her as well 🤔

[hidden fjord]

Can anyone tell me if they made it so that your machines dont work while you are off line anymore? This is the 2nd time that I have logged on that none of my stuff has processed while I wasnt on.

[bright ledge]

hit the x above the lil progress bar to "fix" it
remember to clear output slots

then try again ;;

[hidden fjord]

Thank you I will try that!

[dusky escarp]

did they break cooking? Making blueberry pie so a friend can get one, he doesn;t have the recipe but just the other day we made some for other people who didn't have the recipes either and they got some, but tonight my friend is not. I have 12 pies now and he has none..

[gusty fossil]

Did your friend do a step in the recipe?

[dusky escarp]

yep, every time

[dark sigil]

I want to see a roadmap of the future of palia tbh

[woeful dust]

With the layoffs I'm wondering how much of the road map of the future just says "here be dragons"

I'm 100% convinced we're going to get the elderwood as an area for halloween

[sudden bay]

Does anyone else feel kinda weird when people just come to your house and you say "Hi" and they say nothing and look around and then leave.

[bright ledge]

what step did he do
they changed some of the cake/pie stuff so a few steps dont give "contribution"

[umbral lynx]

I feel more bad than anything since they are looking for inspo most the time and I live in chaos

[sudden bay]

They could at least say hi. It's like someone just walking into your RL house lool

[umbral lynx]

I can see why it's odd but I leave my plot open to everyone since it doesn't bother me, unless they stand where I'm trying to move something

Plus sometimes when they do say something it's a nice interaction, like someone asked about a coffee machine thingy so directed them to that

[woeful dust]

I enjoy the little whimsical visit since they can't exactly hurt anything. I wouldn't be playing an online game if I didn't want to be online

[sudden bay]

Oh I like visitors. That's why I have my plot open. Just a little disappointing that they don't say anything cause I like meeting people, not that I don't want them visiting.

[tranquil scroll]

just used 3 different zeki coins, and got 10 tomato seeds and 5 cotton seed

[woeful dust]

When people don't talk, I just assume they're switch players since I hate typing on switch

[woeful dust]

I LOVE when I get a found item quest for zeki and he gives me a coin and I get a single average carrot seed. LOVE IT

[tranquil scroll]

just makes me love rng soooooo much!

[woeful dust]

Three quests in a row the odds have not been in my favor T_T

[trim agate]

do we have an in-game notepad or smth? I feel like we should have one. Especially since it's so hard not to get sidetracked when running around

[brisk spruce]

we don't have one, no

[novel idol]

this is exactly what happened to me haha

[shadow echo]

Question everyone: What do you all consider the hardest achievment(s) to obtain ?
I'll start, mine Being starred Mujiin Mane (cause them pup be slippery) and Master insect catch, because of the intense RNG aspect of it

[lyric night]

hardest, bcs u mention rng: the makeshift one

but in the end its more tedious than hard

[mossy jetty]

star fish one, I don't like fishing and I really don't like having to run between the hotspots so it's the worst of both worlds for me. I have 2 more fish to go and I'm so over it

[trail cloud]

"Speed running" the tower was fun

[shadow echo]

i need to get around to that at some point too, i suck at parcour

[toxic pivot]

I should kinda let peopl check out my house, but its nothing to special imo

[toxic pivot]

The magic creature star trio eventho i got 2/3 but purely because RNG MADNESS.
And the star fish trophy. Hotspot running and the times are such a PAIN.
The bugs arnt as terrible since IMO most bugs are more localised and Buzzy jars are great to help you. Wrong bug? Run past. But fishing wastes so much extra time and the harder fish more easily fail.

[celest maple]

Imo it’s definitely makeshift one. There are like 70 pieces there and i think there should be better reward for it

[dire kraken]

this all the way. chests are rng. each piece is rng. it's hell.

[mossy jetty]

are you still missing one?

[dire kraken]

yeah.... i have one left.... this wall shelf hates me

[mossy jetty]

and wall shelf of all things 😭

[dire kraken]

I KNOW??? it's supposed to be common, bs if you ask me 😒

[mossy jetty]

I still have 10 items missing but I'll worry about that when I'm finally done with fish

[slow dragon]

the face looks so weird lmaoo, anywasy i have to satrt taking picture with all the broken sernuks i find

[summer dew]

Good idea! I've been finding broken Muujin embedded in the base of trees.

[fluid zephyr]

Im debating on what outfit to purchase. Either the cottage witch or the Palcat bundle.

[finite raft]

I feel like my character is channeling her inner Michael Jackson 😂

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19495068

[small gyro]

Anyone know if they patched butterfly arches? I'm having trouble making them now.

[indigo dust]

does anyone have vids of the old bouncy run animation? lowkey miss it lol

[thorn cypress]

This instantly got Smooth Criminal stuck in my head. This is not a complaint 😁

[signal dagger]

Ha that's awesome

[inland spire]

anyone managed to catch a Rainbow-Tipped Butterfly? can't even think about many long hours i've wasted hunting for one

[thorn cypress]

I've had luck around Pulsewater Plains, early morning around 3am. If you can craft Buzzy Jars, those are helpful too.

[inland spire]

yeah, been using those. been bolting at any that pop up from 3am to 6pm

[vagrant star]

PIRATE FURNITURE!! In the next patch!!! Time to remake my aquarium plot again...

(And a bunch of other new stuff too obviously :-) )

[thorn cypress]

Wishing you luck!

[molten dove]

PIRATES

[slow dragon]

LMAOOO

[vagrant star]

Yes! Do you have any specific plans yet, for them?

[shell mango]

Palia FINALLY getting a pet that doesn't look like another palcat

Wow now I'll actually purchase it!

[lyric night]

the dragon was the reason I skipped the fox was waiting for them to show it

[shell mango]

Wait how did you know

[white bloom]

They brings party buffs ,but do they fix party but player has now?

[lyric night]

files

[thorn cypress]

I cant wait to see lil dragons running around lol There is also a dragon emoji on the notes, I think that was a hint too

[white bloom]

I swear, if they don't fix party bug but rolls update I'm rage quiting

[woeful dust]

THE NEW PET OMG I GUNNNAAA DIIIEEE

[shell mango]

Is there like a site that collects new stuff from the files and shows it off?

[thick wagon]

i seen new pet...please tell me the pets arent going to be souly in the premium shop..will players who cant buy the currency be able to get pets in the future? does this apply to mounts to i know pets are cosmetic only but a lot of people are still hoping for at least some free pets.. maybe some that will wonder the player house/plot depending on were its placed

[lyric night]

paliapedia does that for items or quest, but for the dragon I just looked for it myself so yeah thats basically it, saw the codename drake and was excited lol

[shell mango]

Are there mentions of other pets?

[lyric night]

no

[woeful dust]

The creators have said that they plan to only release pets and cosmetics in the premium shop

[thick wagon]

aw ;-; rip to those who cant buy the currency

im still waiting on farm animals >:{

[woeful dust]

I hoping they at least expand on currency options....

[thick wagon]

or currency bundle deals its still quite expensive.......

[thorn cypress]

To add to this, I'm wanting to be able to release the starred bugs we catch onto our plots to freely buzz and roam around.

[woeful dust]

Holy carp I didn't even think of that

[thick wagon]

OMG YES PLEASE I WANNA BUILD A BUTTERFLY GARDEN

[woeful dust]

Glow bugs! Glow bugs everywhere

[thick wagon]

or add bugs to the bug enclosure from auni

[thorn cypress]

I want it soooo bad lol

[thick wagon]

(i wish the bug enclosures currently could be semi customicable and not just all the same :/) like desert theme rainforest etc even if its little differances/color

[woeful dust]

I won't be surprised if they added full aquariums and terrariums that you could add fish to?

[thick wagon]

eeeh the dragon is cute but i think im happy with my cats and foxes >:{ i wanna put them around my hosue maybe we should get some pet furniture addon

=-= chat why

[woeful dust]

I wondering how the fire breathing is going to work

[thorn cypress]

Ive seen people place bowls on the floors of their bedrooms and kitchen as "pet bowls" lol

[thick wagon]

cant add bugs to the terrarium auni has :/ witch sucks

[iron obsidian]

probably an idle animation like the cosmetics

[hybrid coyote]

wait so save lucky coins for black market now?!

[woeful dust]

Honestly the people running around with the new outfit with the fire circle sparkles is pretty distracting. I keep thinking they're something for me to interact with or something

[sudden bay]

It's really hard to bug hunt or be in a lure party with them too because the fire gets in the way.

[shell mango]

Same 😞

[weak wigeon]

this is how i feel rn

[woeful dust]

I would like an option to reduce other people's sparkles

And pets

[thorn cypress]

That is a good idea, I hadn't considered that.

[soft burrow]

i ithink this is a big accessibility issue tbh

[woeful dust]

Ffxiv has options for these sorts of things, so I'm sure s6 has it on their radar

[weak wigeon]

FFXIV has a toggle button for other people's skill visual effects, they could do something like that with outfit effects and other stuff

[soft burrow]

probably!! i have no idea how it would work myself though. i'm not technologically skilled in that way

[sudden bay]

It's a bit of a bummer they release the building items over time beccause you never know when they are coming out. I will be tearing down some of my current wood and stone structures to add the metal ones depending on how they look. I would have preferred they add the ability for the blocks to be customized.

[soft burrow]

yeah i'v'e done this too. especially when they added the grand harvest house

[shell mango]

Not enough accessibility options in this game

[weak wigeon]

On the menu, there's an option that says "turn off visual effects for: everyone/party members/none" It's just for battle skill effects (on ffxiv) but it could be doable with outfits and hunting/bug catching stuff i'm sure

[soft burrow]

that would be good to see then!! i know a lot of people have complained about the sparkles and flashing lights being triggering

[pearl wave]

that what im saying xD

[weak wigeon]

Sorry i typed it the opposite way hahaha it's "turn on visual effects" so you can see everyone's, just your party, or no one's effects. Idk if you can toggle your own tho, don't remember

[soft burrow]

i understood the idea at least hahaha

[white bloom]

I'm serious, this was super frustrating, and if its not fixed yet parties buffed ,its big spit to face

[woeful dust]

Honestly it's impossible to play a boss fight with everyone's effects turned on...

[white bloom]

Support didn't replied for 3 days either 👍

[weak wigeon]

Just correcting myself since it'd make no sense to hide you party but not everyone else's :p

Or maybe, since that's the people you're playing with xD

[storm quarry]

will the old party bugs be fixed in 081?

specifically the one where you cannot invite people or when people invite you it says you are in another party and declined?

Hope this is the case.

BIG IF TRUE.

[weak wigeon]

But other players always join so!

[weak wigeon]

hopefully

[storm quarry]

[pearl wave]

for these who asking what kind of pet, look at the trailer

its almost dinosaur like / dragons

[weak wigeon]

it's so annoying :c They fixed the getting kicked out out of nowhere but we got that other problem now. And still, i'm sure it happens sometimes but not so often

I wonder if this pet is gonna have lore/story and if it's gonna be related to the main story quest we've been waiting for... It'd be so nice to have a pet obtainable by quest so everyone would have the chance to have one (many people can't afford stuff in games). Just saying this cause there HAS to be an explanation for dragons appearing out of nowhere, right? Haha

Even if they're paid i'd like at least a bit of lore on that. These cuties deserve it

[soft burrow]

it could be|| related to the night sky temple and the staff||

[pearl wave]

^^^

[jovial pawn]

I wish everything was recolourable, the Inquisitor set or the Building items please.

[vagrant star]

Dragons out of nowhere does sound a little too much even for Palia... And I'd love a quest-obtainable pet.

[sudden bay]

S6 has been pretty transparent though in saying pets will always be premium option but who knows, they could change their mind.

[thorn cypress]

This took me from emotionally invested in them because they're cute, to completely invested in them lol

[weak wigeon]

Cosmetic ones. But what about a pet that does something

i was meant to quote you haha @sudden bay

[sudden bay]

or even the conch shell for goodness sake. Why bother making more than one lol

[soft burrow]

i think that if they had one that was earnable, that could help retain players

[jovial pawn]

Also PLEASE don't let the new furniture be rummage rng

I STILL don't have any from the Killima rummage

[sudden bay]

I'm not disagreeing. I think it would too. Just saying that's the stance S6 has taken so far.

[pearl wave]

hopefully its something tish sells

[soft burrow]

oh i'm sorry, i didn't' mean my response in a disagreement to you type of way!!

i was mostly just theorizing as to what could potentially incentivize s6 to change their minds lol. like if they see that enough players are leaving over not having any earnable outfits or earnable pets, maybe they will implement one

[weak wigeon]

We've seen this one spitting fire, maybe it has an use, or maybe they just spit randomly haha. But if it has something more than cosmetic use, it should be obtainable ingame!

[untold sluice]

Also really weird they are releasing this update in only a few days and just now started marketing with something that vague

[lyric night]

very likely a reward for the black market activities, would make the most sense

[sudden bay]

I think they could eventually turn the original palcats into earnable ones.

[pearl wave]

hopefully on june 25, they will reveal what more coming.

[untold sluice]

Like not even a week of warning, must have been a rushed patch and something got cut is my opinion. Maybe they had something planned but it didn't make the window so this is all they could scratch up.

[lyric night]

a week of warning?

[soft burrow]

that could definitely be an option!! since the flutterfox and the dragon are a bit more complex

[untold sluice]

Patch is dropping in 4 days.

[sudden bay]

I try not to think in those terms. I think S6 has done a pretty good job so far.

[untold sluice]

Usually they spend a bit more time marketing the patch, but maybe it's a small one they didn't intend to be this small

[lyric night]

yeah but thats always like that
friday (also sometimes thursdays lately) before patch preview, tuesday next week patch
always

[untold sluice]

I mean it's a service title this happens all the time, not something wrong with S6

[untold sluice]

Huh maybe I just felt like they were warning us earlier.

[pearl wave]

i mean, i do think they did warns us like "hey this patch is coming in x days" as a warning :o, better than not telling us tbh

[untold sluice]

Either way I have a feeling Tish's Dreamhouse has a related function to the Pirate Furniture...maybe a Guild Currency store for "premium sets"

[soft burrow]

even if it is unrelated to pirate furniture, i must say that i am very curious as to what it will be

[lyric night]

there was a time where they would just drop the patch without any mention, then that changed to one day prior to the patch, then friday

[pearl wave]

that yikes

[sudden bay]

oh I hope so. I'm almost at max with my guild coins and have all tish's guild stuff. It's not even stuff that you can really use two of.

[untold sluice]

I just feel like for marketing reasons you'd want people to talk about it over a period and get hype, but maybe they want to avoid hype...idk

[untold sluice]

Yeah her Guild store is one of the worst, alongside the Mining store the Hunting ones.

best stores are Forage and Gardening. Could use most of them multiple times...also having an item with functionality is great.

[sudden bay]

but you don't want it too long or people will start specuating too much and then be disapointed.

[pearl wave]

^^^^

what the point of hype if people will be disappointed if its didn't come then

[untold sluice]

yeah, which is why I think maybe they want to avoid Hype for these beta updates. Maybe for something like Launch or a big update you may see a bigger push but for something small they may just want to avoid garnering hype media build which can cause disappointment.

[pearl wave]

I think what they doing right now is fine, like i said, hopefully more will reveal on june 25

[sudden bay]

I don't think that much into it. I'm just excited new things are coming so soon. This is the first game I've played where new content has been added almost monthly.

[acoustic ember]

I hope they followed our lead and squashed(caught) 25m bugs in the game

[sudden bay]

What do you mean?

[acoustic ember]

I mean I hope with this next update that they fix many of the bugs/crashes...

[sudden bay]

OHHH, ok. 😂

[loud axle]

Usually they end up adding more in. 🙃

[pearl wave]

bring back the frog bucket please, s6, i didn't get a chance to obtain them before 😭

[flint igloo]

It’s just collects dirt and mold from sitting outside. And someone put their trash in it

[pearl wave]

i just want it mkay ;-;

[flint igloo]

I know. It’s cute. Hopefully someday they will bring it back

[shadow pivot]

Are they really going to add another furniture set and not fix the plot limit bug? again???

It would be a lot more exciting if I could place more furniture on other plots and not just replace stuff

[jovial pawn]

And yes while I'm not losing renown(so such lost renown) may I spend it? Please?

[woeful dust]

I assume most of their bug fixers were laid off... Along with their marketing team

[shadow pivot]

Honestly as much as I hate to say it... if they don't fix the plot limit bug I'll only be on when they add more story elements pretty soon.

[woeful dust]

That's a legit way to play though, it's how I play dreamlight valley and ffxiv. But I get what you mean, especially if decorating is your main thing.

[chrome quartz]

I hope they are doing some fixes with this new update too!!

[shadow pivot]

True. However if enough decorators feel the same way pretty soon we've got a dead game which really is unfortunate because I've found so much fun here

[vale crater]

I took four months off after hitting cap on everything and was hoping alot of the bugs would have been sorted. After reading through here I am not hopeful lol

[untold sluice]

Y'all think black market fishing will just be like any fish can show up inside or will it have like exotics?

Aka fishing gambling lol.

[untold sluice]

Yeah I really think the plot system is their biggest issue right now and should be priority 1.

Beyond just adding new content.

Plot limit adjustments and design, building restrictions being too limited, and plot inventory limits being overly small.

Would hopefully be fixed before they add anymore plot locations.

As a new plot location that's like a beach plot in Bahari Bay or something is my most wanted. Not happy with the hole in the ground we have right now.

[soft burrow]

i unironically want it to be a shark that shows up

[woeful dust]

After paying for and playing janky dreamlight valley and other beta games, and comparing the progress and glitchiness, I'm patient enough and hopeful enough to keep chipping out for the occasional outfit and pet. I just got my friend to join in playing this week and she's already obsessed. By Golly, I'm going to keep s6 going if I have to do it myself

[soft burrow]

i get what you mean entirely. i'm old enough to struggle through a bunch of early access games and beta games that literally just got shut down and that was it. like just dead and gone

[vale crater]

did they increase the money cap from 300k yet?

[woeful dust]

I can't believe you would say such awful things about our lovely hole in the ground

[glacial drift]

Yes, its 999k now.

[untold sluice]

Heaven forbid I don't like living in a walled in hole with no views or aesthetic beyond rock walls 😛

Especially when they sold the game ads with a house on a mountaintop with views of Kilima.

[untold sluice]

But it would all make sense if this is just the "free starter plot"

And more plots would fix the inventory issue

[old dirge]

they are just babies

[woeful dust]

"Everything the light touches is yours, son" "dad, maybe we should move out of the hole in the ground then..."

[woeful dust]

I'm still holding out of Neopets! Any day now, it'll make it's comeback! Any day...

[untold sluice]

Hoping this creature is actually something in the world we can run into later in its big adult form.

Like what happens when we catch on fire?! Haha.

[old dirge]

it'd be neat to see NPCs with any of the pets so that they feel more like part of the world, maybe when we get to bahari city someday

[woeful dust]

I'd love an Elderwood tree house plot

[fading basalt]

Am I the only one who dreams of having mounts in this game? I feel like I don't see people talking about it.
Even if the mounts are the same speed as running like the gliders are, I'd still love it. And with this new little dragon thing, imagine if we could ride it and do a low hover/fly on it. I just really want mounts

[old dirge]

it comes up often (at least 3 mentions in every "wishlist for future patches" post/thread), especially since subira arrived and we saw an animal that could easily be a mount

[woeful dust]

Happy little ormu mount ❤️

[fading basalt]

Omg, stop it

[fading basalt]

Alright! Well I'm glad others are talking about it then!

[woeful dust]

I don't think it's an insurMOUNTable feature for them to add

[fathom zinc]

If we can use the dragon as a makeshift glider I’d be happy

[midnight oak]

Whenever I think about mounts, I think about all the players who will be mad when I ride too close to the bugs and animals they were about to shoot/bag. Their anxiety as the thundering hooves of my mount trample through the brightroom circles and scatter their prey to the winds.

[untold sluice]

Dodging fire from the adult form of this would be fun, although not sure how that would work given the current games combat not having any fail states.

[woeful dust]

A mount race through bahari would be fun

[toxic pivot]

some concept art showed mounts too

[fading basalt]

It's certainly not needed, no, but I'd buy it! You could argue the pet's aren't needed, they don't do anything but they're -very- cute. That's why I think the mounts should be the same speed as the run speed, so people don't miss out. Unless they make the mounts a story quest, like with the gliders, then we can be fast!

[woeful dust]

Maybe once we get more maps they'll add mounts

[gritty socket]

Yeah, the main issue against mounts in the current game is that they wouldn't be super useful with the maps we have.

I'd still use them though; it'd be nice to get between northern and southern Bahari Bay faster, even if I'd need to dismount to explore off the roads

[fathom zinc]

Do you guys think that we will ever get an open world? Where bahari and the town are just connected by a road and not a loading screen? Or possibly mega servers where there is more than the 24 player capacity

[woeful dust]

Mega server in Bahari City let's goooooo

[vagrant star]

More than 24 players, possibly yes. Though I doubt we'll get such a huge server as you're imagining.

[fathom zinc]

Even if it’s just like ‘mega’ inside city limits. That would be sick

But like 50 people in the tavern would be fun to see

[loud axle]

I've been asking for bigger servers since 2021...

Honestly at this point I just don't think their hardware / matchmaking systems can handle it.

We had a multitude of issues just trying to expand the friends list and neighborhoods.

But definitely agreed that it would have been nice to have a couple hundred people on the town maps.

That would cause a number of issues with NPC schedules and such as well though. My solution to that was that NPCs couldn't be interacted with when they were traveling to their next location, but that might get annoying waiting for them as well. 🤷‍♂️

[dry swift]

I don't know why I'm so disappointed in the update announcement 😦

[polar elbow]

On this topic, I would like to talk about combat. I personally love combat, but I know many people don't feel like it has a place in a cozy game like palia.
Which brings me to the question of.... what forms of PVE combat and/or PVP systems would be acceptable to people, in palia?

I wouldnt be opposed to seeing PVP in the form of arcade/card/board-style minigames for instance.

PVE... I feel like it should be opt-in, to a degree, in the same way that stardew valley doesnt really have anything attack you unless you go into the mines/caverns/etc. Measures should be taken to ensure that no one has to go into the pve zone if they dont actually want to, though.... as an example, the caves might have a higher chance of finding rare bugs/ores/etc but nothing is exclusively found in the pve zone, so people could still find them elsewhere if they don't want to engage in combat 🤔

[vale crater]

exploratory dungeons would be cool with mobs and bosses etc

[loud axle]

Because it's pretty much another coat of paint on existing mechanics without any meaningful new content, story, or maps.

I am intrigued about what the party buffs will be, but I'm nervous it's going to be the same old lazy "more exp" that they did with Focus.

Guess the black market fishing might be interesting as well?

[fathom zinc]

If there is combat like that I think it should be in the way of like an arcade machine where you get gold or maybe lucky coins. Maybe have it like a 2-d rogue lite dungeon crawler. Think like cult of the lamb or something similar?

[polar elbow]

hmm, a better way of farming zeki coins would be neat. I'd be on board with that too

[vagrant star]

The party buffs are interesting, I guess black market fishing just means that they've added a fishing spot down there, maybe with a few new fishes or otherwise the cave biome ones... Tish's dream house could be something new if it's not just a house we can enter that never changes, I'm somewhat curious about that one too.

[woeful dust]

I going out on a limb and thinking that the party buffs means they've worked on ironing out party glitches

[dry swift]

I think the announcement has made me feel jaded about the state of the game again. It's beginning to look like another update with mostly style and no substance. I get that players LOVE their premium outfit and pets and it's a way to bring money into a game that evidently seems to be struggling with income. I'm just worried that party buffs doesn't mean what we think it means. Also pirate furniture is cool, but I'm so tired of every new furniture set being "Oh wow! This is flashy. I wonder if any of this does anything other than take up space on my plot." and the entire furniture set just ends up having no function whatsoever.

[woeful dust]

Im always pleasantly surprised by the patches themselves after the initial tiny teasers they put out. As a decorator, I'm hyped for the pirate furniture and metal blocks

[polar elbow]

the variety of earnable rewards in this game is severely lacking, we need more than decor but decor is the only thing we're really getting because literally everything else that could be a good earnable reward is paywalled instead
(mandatory disclaimer: yes I KNOW they need to have a cash shop as a f2p game. It doesn't mean that there shouldnt be ANY earnable cosmetics whatsoever though...)

[fathom zinc]

Skins that we could apply to current items like ovens and workstations would be neat

[dry swift]

I think my current cycle of play is 1.) Come up with cool concept for something on my house and start playing again. 2.) Build cool concept 3.) Get bored after making the new furniture set from the new patch and realize that most of the other gameplay is boring 4.) Stop playing.

[fathom zinc]

I feel this. But I have put in so much time for free in this game. Usually I look at a game as $1/hour of gameplay being a good deal. After my first 8 hours I knew I was in love and loaded 5-10 bucks onto my account for the basic pet.

Also I am extremely anti battlepass. But it would be a good idea to give everyone a set of weekly challenges to have the option to earn premium currency for free

[woeful dust]

I subscribe and unsubscribe to ffxiv whenever new content drops. Yoshi-p said that's what they even want their players to do, take some time to play something else and come back. I think it's a good way to keep from getting bored with games since no game is going to have exciting content to fill every day for the years live service games are being played and updated

[dry swift]

As far as this game's value to me goes. I'd say it's worth maybe $30-50 in cosmetics from the store just to help an indie dev out. I don't regret it at all. Just holding out on spending any more money until S6 gets it together and releases some content that's actually impressive. (Animal Husbandry, New Map, etc.)

[fathom zinc]

How much playtime do you have?

[polar elbow]

the problem is, as I've stated in the past before: The lack of earnable cosmetics is a huge deterrent to the very same audience who would be most likely to actually buy cosmetics. Especially when every single outfit is ~15$ on average and can't even be recolored the way you like.
If I love cosmetics, I'm not going to play a game where I don't get any cosmetic-related goals I can work on through gameplay, and the purchaseable outfits can't even be reliably mix-n-matched with each other without looking awful lmao

I love when I can have a sense of 'visual progression' on my character, and Palia completely lacks that unfortunately

[dry swift]

I use the vanilla app so I'm not sure. I'd say at least 600-700 hours at this point since Beta.

[wise hearth]

1,040 hours since it released on switch

[woeful dust]

Instead of paying $15 a month to sub to ffxiv, I pay $15 a month to play palia and I get a bonus outfit 🤷‍♀️

[weak wigeon]

There's gonna be a Prize system at Zeki's! Probably wheel? I'm guessing it'll work like the one at the Maji

[dry swift]

If this game had an actual roadmap instead of every update being a surprise, I would gladly pay a subscription fee or just pay for more cosmetics.

[woeful dust]

I'd love another opportunity to get my hands on more of zeki's balls

[wise hearth]

phrasing-

[loud axle]

I mean I agree, but Palia has made me extremely skeptical of any free games.

I would much rather pay for a subscription and have everything available to me instead of the EA model of "here's half a car, if you want the wheels you need to pay extra."

I guess all of us have different ideas on what model would work best for the game, but I think the current state of S6 has shown that the current model is not working

[weak wigeon]

You can't even take much time cause if you have a house you're forced to sub LOL

[polar elbow]

I pay $15 to sub to ffxiv and have my choice of hundreds, if not thousands of dyeable outfits to work towards

[dry swift]

To be fair GW2 has unlockable cosmetics, hundreds of different dyes for your armor/outfits AND is pay once and no sub after. I just can't stand that game because WvW is such a mess and they nerf all the fun builds.

[polar elbow]

this is me, eternally chained to the game LMAO

[fathom zinc]

That’s totally fair but also I think that would limit the population of the game. I personally don’t enjoy sub based games. I wanna have the whole game whenever I want it. There’s too much of ‘did I get my moneys worth this month’ for me to be cozy in my cozy game

[umbral lynx]

Just get a skateboard mount do sick kick flips as you go by

[woeful dust]

I'm happier with palia and s6 than I am with Disney dreamlight valley. They said they would go free to play after beta - JK they changed their mind, and then released another pay to play expansion pack - all the whole the game continues to run and crash on the switch

[idle junco]

Yes.. Its a huge turn off for me.
I've had SO MANY people tell me to be careful that this game is just a cash grab and that they will stop development because it has no progression plan.
I would never NEVER play another S6 game if that happened. I've put in nearly the same amount of money into Palia as a new release AAA studio game.

[woeful dust]

But then when you unsub you don't have access to the anymore, whereas I stop paying palia, I can keep playing

Also what was the state of ffxiv in its first year of release xD

[dry swift]

I only put ~$50 in because I had a feeling their money making model wasn't very good for a cozy MMO-style game. To be fair, Jagex has released tons of cash grab games and I still pay my sub fee to them for OSRS. 😂

[loud axle]

I mean... To be fair S6 isn't much better. Palia is riddled with bugs that have been present since the first tests. They preached inclusion and diversity and then have still not followed through on promises of accessibility options, and the ones they have added were half-baked at best.

They've kept the promise of "only cosmetic stuff will be sold" I suppose but... Who knows for the future

[weak wigeon]

I'm thinking they could do something like this: The common ones could be stuff like materials, arrows, bombs etc. The uncommon ones, maybe rare, could be ore or some rare gatherables... And the higher prizes could be zeki coins, a plushie (maybe plushies that are already in game just obtainable in the gacha, i think that'd make sense since it's something in the underground and people would also have a chance to get them other than RNG) or furniture

Instead of giving gold like they did in maji market... They could give us something like that. Or maybe a reward bar that rotates every x time, like in a battle pass... And you get points instead of tickets... Like, the wheel can drop gold, points or zeki coins like it did in teh market... idk what they're gonna do but i hope they do it well D:

[fathom zinc]

I think it’s because roadmaps are stressful. And if you’re late it puts wayyy more pressure on the devs. Also it takes away from the experience of being excited about the new stuff. They don’t wanna burn all the hype out a year before x content is released and it be dead on arrival. (At least that’s how I see it) look at games like stardew valley. ‘It will release when it is finished and I’m happy with it.’ Palia is, after all, a labor of love

[polar elbow]

and the mass layoffs are not helping people feel comfortable with the state of the game either

[weak wigeon]

If it's on the ToS, they can't make the game paid, but i'm guessing since it's an expansion and not the base game, they can...

[woeful dust]

I'm arguing that it is better, but without actual data and an understanding of what's going on in the companies, it's all conjecture on our parts

I'd also argue that all digital goods are cash grabs regardless of how long the game lasts. You're ultimately paying for the fun you have playing - not the item itself. All these 1's and 0's won't matter

[late sigil]

Hello, I am interrupting this conversation to say that Einar just gave me the expiration talk, which I answered with fiery confidence, but his answers devastated me

[idle junco]

Yes.. THOUGH, unfortunately. Its happening in even the biggest studios. ALSO one of the reasons I do buy skins- I want to support the game so it can be finished!

[old dirge]

s6 is down around 80% though - 200something to 50something employees in 10 months

[dry swift]

I guess as long as we're having fun, that's all the matters. I have thousands of hours into OSRS but that game definitely ended up feeling like a job more than something fun. This game is struggling but I still find it fun because the house decorating is great. I could care less about all other aspects of the game aside from gardening.

[woeful dust]

I had so much fun clicking a single tree millions of times for hours to make a meaningless number go up, I don't know what you're talking about

[sudden bay]

I'm always surprised at the amount of negativity around patch time. I don't see an indication that Palia is ending anytime soon and I play the game with that in mind. It's still in beta. Trust me...I've seen things that may be coming and it's awesome. (no I won't say where) We have a patch or update almost every month so I'm confident the game is here to stay for now.

[dry swift]

I have a maxed ironman so I know your pain.

[idle junco]

Woah. I didn't know it was that big.
I enjoy so much in Palia, cooking, gardening, decorating, quests, talking to the NPC's- I also play it with my oldest kiddo- so its great for bonding. Lets all just put all the good vibes out for S6 and the Palia team<3

[woeful dust]

I got to level like 60 max so I don't know your pain xD

[gilded python]

I desperately want more quests. I've maxed my friendships and did all the bundles. I really enjoy the updates, but I really just want quests, new maps, new secrets, etc.

[late sigil]

Palia's an amazing game honestly, it's the first time I play a cozy game and it has completely caught my attention. And as I am in the IT field I love to see the game evolves and how the team works on it

[dry swift]

I think the negativity around Palia mostly comes from the lack of communication. Isn't that where most negativity comes from in life anyways? This is an amazing game like Cooky said. We'd just like to have a little more say of what goes into it.

[sudden bay]

Lack of communication? I think they communicate A LOT. More than any other game I've played.

[late sigil]

As a big game company consumer I agree with you there 😂

[dry swift]

I don't have social media, so to me one-sided Twitter/Facebook/Insta posts =/= communication. Also, I've provided several feedback forms but there is no way for me or anyone to know if they've ever read or even received them.

[old dirge]

I enjoy palia, though i'm starting to burnout on it but I can always take a break. Oh, I recently saw it used to critique the upcoming hobbit game graphics in a "look at this beta game from a new studio that's so pretty, why does the hobbit look like it's from 20 years ago" way - it's nice to see it compared positively to something

[old dirge]

getting rid of all the CMs definitely doesn't help on that front either

[dry swift]

That's one of the strengths Jagex actually has for their old fossil of a game. They run player polls that decide what comes into the game, they communicate with their community through content creators a lot of times. They let it be known that they actively listen to player feedback. S6 does none of that.

[sudden bay]

Part of what you are asking for - a roadmap- is I think it would ruin the surprise of what's coming. I'm always excited when patch day comes even if it's just something little. From the beginning of open beta where we had almost nothing to now has been amazing

[woeful dust]

Their communication style does seem a bit scattered. I'd appreciate a legitimate official forum on their website

[woeful dust]

I was hyped for that game from the initial teaser, but then the trailer came out - it looks like a cheap mobile game!

[dry swift]

You can have a roadmap and still keep some things a surprise. I think players would just like to know what to expect without a studio going "HEY! CATCH 25 MILLION BUGS!"

[gritty socket]

Unfortunately, a lot of companies are moving away from forums industry-wide to focus on Discord. I'm... not a fan, but it is what it is.

[sudden bay]

Shrugs...I thought it was a fun activity and appreciate the plushie and new flowers

[old dirge]

the CMs were trying to get things in order on the communication front, but well. Also, there is sort of a support forum... ish kinda https://support.palia.com/hc/en-us/community/topics

[woeful dust]

I also imagine that if they had had a big road map, but then after layoffs, they'd have to change things - people would be piiiisssseeeddd

[dry swift]

It was a good event in concept. The plushie and flowers are great. But it just felt very sudden and out of nowhere. Like the layoffs.

[old dirge]

yeah, they learned the underpromise lesson real quick

[zenith narwhal]

yes not many people know about it which doesn't make it as effective as it should be. I guess that's why they also have a forum one directly in the discord which helps

[trail cloud]

You dont have to include specific dates in the roadmaps. You can just say "We are currently focusing the most on these 3 things, a bit lower priority are these things etc"

[zenith narwhal]

I also think having a discord makes support from the community more efficient in real time, however there is somewhat of a tradeoff of it being unorganized

[woeful dust]

I enjoy the surprise bugathons stuff. But then again I'm a happy chaos gremlin

[sudden bay]

ok well I don't compare a bug contest to laying off employees, which happens in every single company as the same thing. But I won't change your mind so I'll leave it at that.

[trail cloud]

If you happen to layoff another 50 people just put a post "Due to recent staff reduction new content gonna be delayed" or something

[sudden bay]

I'm surprised they even released they laid off people.

[loud axle]

That's the opposite of what a roadmap does.

A roadmap doesn't tell you exactly what's coming. It gives vague ideas of where priorities lie and what the focus is. Roadmaps are vague; it could be as simple as "Q3 2024: mounts and a new map."

That builds hype because we don't know the details. We can speculate. That's exactly what happened when this discord first opened. We had small juicy nuggets of details and we were all pumped for the road ahead.

S6 doesn't want a roadmap because it holds them somewhat accountable to deadlines and involves a bit of transparency, but it also builds trust with the community, something that is SORELY lacking with a lot of us oldies who have been around the block once, twice, or a dozen times when it comes to this game.

Delays happen as well, we know. Look at Silksong. But that's also why communication is so important, because as Palia currently stands all of us are investors in Palia and its future. But at this point, there needs to be some accountability.

[woeful dust]

Due to recent staff reduction publishing of the road map will be delayed

[old dirge]

p2p support is fantastic for companies and discord can be good for that, but discord(well live chat in general) itself is bad for official support and feedback - the forums and threads help tiny bit, but tracked and tagged is better so sending people to zendesk and alchemer is normal

[woeful dust]

S6 is hiring! if y'all want to give them some feedback, set up an interview and go read them the riot act

[old dirge]

those are just perpetual listings, not roles they're actively trying to fill

[dry swift]

I would just like if S6 would actually listen to their players and actually acknowledge that they listen to their players instead of monologuing every update. Is that really so much to ask?

[woeful dust]

Booo!

[loud axle]

The fact that they have those postings up after several mass layoffs isn't a good look, but that's another conversation 🙃

[dry swift]

I see players in here with fantastic ideas all the time, some of which could easily be implemented with not a lot of dev time. I'm sure players submit feedback all the time too. We never hear any of it.

[old dirge]

almost every company has those (dropbox, pool, whatever cutesy name they come up with), makes it look like there's more jobs in the market than there is

[dry swift]

It's like that one episode of Oblongs where the employee keeps making workplace feedback forms and the boss uses the stacks of documents they come in to keep the office warm by throwing them in the furnace.

[old dirge]

being able to give s6 leadership a good shake and fix things is a win big in the lottery dream (after the usual setting up self & family and charity - hence needing it to be a big win)

[sudden bay]

I'm sure they have their reasons. They have to answer to investors which is where their money is mostly coming from. There is also a lore story that they need to make sure lines up with any suggestions. So while suggestions are good some may not be feasible or even possible.

[dry swift]

So should I be worried that we can't have animal husbandry, which has been popularly suggested several times, because that would mean Badruu would no longer have a monopoly on livestock in Kilima?

[gritty socket]

It's also worth noting they have changed plenty of things in response to player feedback (or at least aggregate trends within the playerbase); the recent-ish change to mining nodes as one of the big ones

[woeful dust]

Maybe that'll give him time to play in his band in the underground

[sudden bay]

You don't know that feature isn't coming down the line. 😉 They might just not be ready to release it yet. 🙂

[woeful dust]

Like when they changed the fishing cast speed and it sucked so then they immediately gave us a slider for the cast speed

And the dirt mounds around trees.

[old dirge]

it'd be great if they had full teams devoted to accessibility, localization, stability(this one they probably do have), and quality(this one is likely down to barebones and only the big things they find are acted on) - sure getting all this right doesn't lead to quick growth, but it leads to a larger pool to grow in and increases retention

[dry swift]

Not to sound mean, but isn't that why a roadmap would be a good thing? So that players would know that something they've wanted for so long might exist some day?

[sudden bay]

Not necessarily. Maybe people would leave until that feature is implemented. The element of surprise is important.

[old dirge]

it's picking which battles you want too - "i want this added" & "why didn't they include it" vs "it's taking too long" & "I hate what they've said/shown"

[woeful dust]

Where we're going, we don't need road(map)s

[gritty socket]

It's worth mentioning that back in pre-alpha, they'd mentioned that while they do want to add more skills, they're focusing on getting the skills we have now down pat. IIRC they were planning for post-1.0. I'll try and dig up the Ask The Team

[woeful dust]

It's such a delicate balancing act

[gritty socket]

Yep. Both having a road map and not having one have their strengths and drawbacks

[old dirge]

alpha and prealpha are still under nda, so make sure whatever you find is public info

[summer dew]

They need to add pekis. Otherwise, I believe we're eating bug eggs. 😵‍💫

[woeful dust]

Slimey, yet satisfying

[old dirge]

from just everything in game it's clear that they intend to have a whole lot of people, places, and things added just have to hope the money holds or gets better so we can see it

[gritty socket]

How many professions (such as mining and manufacturing) will be available in the game?

Our current expectation is that there will be 8 skills available at launch. While that number will inevitably expand post launch, right now we’re mostly focused on making sure our initial skills are really hitting the mark. Our playtests thus far have been really helpful in validating and iterating on each of them.

The eight skills are as follows: Foraging, Bug Catching, Mining, Fishing, Cooking, Furniture Making, Gardening, and Hunting. You can check them out on our recently revamped website at https://palia.com/.

From: https://support.palia.com/hc/en-us/articles/7475603096980-Gameplay#how-many-professions-such-as-mining-and-manufacturing-will-be-available-in-the-game--16

[trail cloud]

With the current development speed we got another 10 years of pre-1.0 unless they want to jump from 0.1xx to 1.x for some reason

[woeful dust]

S6 won me over when they patched the hole in the bridge in kilima

[gritty socket]

Yeah, there's definitely hints in dialogue at least for some sort of Animal Husbandry and possibly Alchemy (though that one I'm not as sure on)

[old dirge]

when you factor in leaks and things s6 has said there's even more

[sudden bay]

I FINALLY realized what all the scuff marks were for. haha

[dry swift]

I'm sure we'll get animal husbandry in 2028.

[trail cloud]

Could have been a fun little community challenge, Donate x thousand planks of wood and other stuff to repair the loca bridge

[old dirge]

i think the version sub numbers are just a count, which is pretty common, you'll see companies roll over their version number yearly regardless of where the numbers actually are

[woeful dust]

I'd love if they did that for fixing up the other makeshift town buildings

[loud axle]

Yup. This was in my feedback / ideas. 😦

[gritty socket]

Yeah, don't worry, I'm very careful to make sure anything I talk about isn't breaching tester NDA

[sudden bay]

What they did with it was very cute though you have to admit.

[trail cloud]

The numbers are arbitrary but there should still be some logic behind them

[woeful dust]

The fact that it wasn't just fixed normally, but patched up all wonkily was so charming

[sudden bay]

Also the ||scratches on the other places and the big scratch in front of the underground showing that they brought hotpot back.||

[old dirge]

looking at that ask the team a bit more, I kinda wonder how the communities vs maps planning decisions go - communities are barely in game so far so have clearly been moved down the priority list, but some people are clamoring for them just like people are begging for more maps

[old dirge]

||stole the tables from the fairgrouns....||

[dry swift]

You know, I think I'm beginning to understand that maybe this just isn't the kind of game where we're supposed to ask questions 😄

[loud axle]

Alpha NDA intensifies

[gritty socket]

I'm honestly not sure I like that we seem to be getting a lot of the LNY stuff as basegame now, just because IDK what they'll do next LNY instead

[old dirge]

neighborhoods are mentioned in beta.... of course it's just a privacy setting they forgot to update but still

[woeful dust]

I suspect communities are hugely complicated. If they allow communal building and ownership would that create an economy that they then have to balance? Goodness knows they struggle with the coding side of group play as it is.... I wonder what else it would effect

[dry swift]

"Oops! Broke climbing again!"

[sudden bay]

Each player plays differently. I think this is where a lot of disappointment comes. I'm happy mining and hunting and fishing until new content comes out. I do realize some people aren't into all that which makes it seem the game lacks content. For me my biggest complaint is that we don't have more "little" decorating items to use for clutter.

[loud axle]

No, not that... There are just things I want to say that I can't is all.

Vague gesturing

[woeful dust]

If you make a game for everybody, you end up making a game for nobody

[sudden bay]

So true

[loud axle]

And that's what they tried to do with Palia.

One of the first questions I ever asked when this Discord went live was "what is your target audience?" And the response I got was something along the lines of "We are trying to cast the widest net possible."

[sudden bay]

For instance stardew valley I find very childish and graphically bad. I'd never play that game but people seem to love it.

[woeful dust]

Can't wait for the E role play update

[dry swift]

When I found out this was a cozy game, I thought it would basically be an idle game with extra steps. My playstyle is very much "Do the occasional quest/resource excursion and spend most of the time on your plot gardening crops or decorating."

[gritty socket]

TBH, I haven't played Palia much in about a month. It's not that I dislike the game - far from it - it's the fact that since things are relatively fomo-free, I can afford to take a break at times. Nice for times where there's way too many games coming out tbh

[old dirge]

😆 i didn't get far enough to know what you're talking about, during alpha my laptop at the time struggled and, being pretty new to gaming, i didn't know how to resolve the motion sickness so didn't play much. I get the feeling though!

[loud axle]

"Childish?"

Like I get the graphics, they're not for everyone, but man there are a ton of social and personal issues that are shown with so much grace and growth in that game...

[gritty socket]

I want to know what "pirate" furniture is tbh. Is it your typical nautical theming, or are we getting something more in-line with Grimalkin stuff?

[dry swift]

If anything I think Palia could take some features away from Stardew lol.

[old dirge]

i had the graphics argument with my brother about stylized not being low quality, but it just doesn't vibe for some people

[sudden bay]

Shrugs, not my kind of game but It was just an example. Not trying to dis on your game. lol

[woeful dust]

Would be neat if they were related to zeki's find item quests

[loud axle]

Everyone has their personal likes and dislikes, I don't mind you don't like it I'm just curious what you found childish about it!

[dry swift]

When I think of pirate furniture I think "You wouldn't download a couch, would you?"

[old dirge]

huh, do we know if the pirates we read about in game are human, majiri, grimalkin, or something else 🤔

[woeful dust]

I think the story can seem shallow initially. If the game play isn't for you, you're not gunna find out about the depth of the game

[woeful dust]

I absolutely would

[gritty socket]

I'm also curious about whatever "Tish's Dream Home" is tbh.

[old dirge]

wonder if it'll be tower adjacent? not the same mechanic but some other side game play in some way

[sudden bay]

Maybe showing a new release for a house?

[dry swift]

Imagine it's just a normal plot except she can actually place wallpaper/flooring/roofing whever she wants and there's no item limit 😄

[gritty socket]

Funnily enough, you could level this exact same thing at Palia, or really any life sim. Even Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons is a slow burn

[sudden bay]

I'm ok with the item limit but not showing on the game is insane and I don't get it. I shouldnn't have to use a TPA to find out what my item limit is at.

[woeful dust]

Oh absolutely

[gritty socket]

My first thougt was something like Happy Home Designer, which would be wild

[dry swift]

Plus it's terrible that Switch users have no way of knowing how close they are to their item limit at all.

[rare pine]

Quite a few things in the preview seems geared towards the underground, so Tish's Dream House could be a game or something in the Underground. It would make sense since ||she's working with Zeki Now.||

[sudden bay]

Well yeah, how can you even plan what to do without knowing.....

[gritty socket]

I wonder when Reth will get the special Underground menu they hinted at back when they first did the revamp

I have a mighty need for virtual booze

[rare pine]

I just don't decorate. Which makes the game kinda boring tbh, since decorating is the one thing that feels very polished. At least compared to everything else.

[sudden bay]

I wish they would implement weather like DDLV but I imagine the lag would be too much.

[dry swift]

That's fair. That's pretty much all I do now and the game still gets boring for me sometimes. The other skills could definitely use a little more life as well.

[dire kraken]

after finishing quests and everyone to lvl 4/5 the game does feel a little empty. getting accomplishments also doesn't offer much in reward

[rare pine]

The plushies were a start, but they can't just rely on those. They're ultimately just decorations too.

[dry swift]

I think what prevents me from wanting to hunt for plushies is that the drop rates and grinding reminds me of Oldschool Runescape. And if I wanted to be bored and grind for shiny new things I would just log onto OSRS.

[gritty socket]

I think the play right now for plushies until rates get tweaked is not to grind for them, and just treat them as a bonus.

[rare pine]

At least with Runescape you can Afk(ish) some things. Palia just demands so much of my attention that it started to feel like a job. I WEEP for the people who are grinding for rubies.

[gritty socket]

Also, I just realized that we're likely going to get new plushies based off the new pet, and... I need them

[dry swift]

If I see a disco deer or a magic muujin on my way to my daily flotsam I'll hunt them but otherwise I don't even bother.

[dry swift]

That's what I'm saying. Maybe I expected cozy game to = lazy game. I'd love more activities where I could set my player to do something and just walk away from my computer. I don't get it. This game is perfectly primed for that.

[dire kraken]

i was hype for plushies, but now i feel like they're milking the hype too hard and too fast it's a little exhausting too

[old dirge]

zeki and najuma should be able to invent something to automate some tasks and something to recycle furniture

[dry swift]

Plushies are cool, but you know what's cooler? Living breathing animals you can feed garbage like knapweed and you get milk, eggs and wool.

[old dirge]

if/when we do get animal husbandry I hope we can name them and that they have a solid pool of ideas to just randomly pick from for those of us bad a naming things

[thorn cypress]

I would like to chime in to say, I second this 😁

[sudden bay]

What the point of that? I am happy that there isn't anything that automated except some of the crafters. For me that would make this game very boring.

[old dirge]

pekis, ormuu, and rifroc are the farm animals yeah? and we only see ormuu in game?

[dry swift]

Because if I wanted to spend my entire time on the game running around and collecting things I would play another game.

[sudden bay]

Ok, see this is where you and I differ. If I had to set stuff and wait forever for it to complete then I would play another game. lol - so it's a win-lose or lose-win situation. I play a game to play and interact with it.

[dry swift]

What's wrong with accommodating players who want to just chill on their plot and watch their crops/animals grow? If S6 is trying to please all of their players, why not the lazy ones who have retired from the stereotypical MMO experience?

[old dirge]

accessibility too - i know you can't make things perfectly doable for literally everyone, but some tasks/skills have some missing settings and missing normal accommodations

[rare pine]

I really just want less of a grind. I get rare stuff is supposed to be rare, but in this game it feels almost cruel. Like, it felt like I was being punished.

[thorn cypress]

I personally like the grind, it makes me slow down. I usually play fast-paced games and this one allows me to relax a bit.

[sudden bay]

Because that's not what THIS game is about.

[dry swift]

Then it's not very cozy, is it?

[old dirge]

they've said they want it welcoming and inclusive for everyone

[sudden bay]

I think your definition of cozy is skewed.

[loud axle]

Cozy was just a buzzword to attract people. It says very little about the actual gameplay in my personal opinion.

[sudden bay]

Well it is...you don't have to do most things in the game. You can just do what part you want.

[dry swift]

cozy = relaxed. Does it not? What if my definition of relaxed or maybe someone with accessibility issues is not putting constant inputs into my keyboard/mouse?

[loud axle]

It's honestly one of those descriptors that I'm getting sick of at this point. "This cozy new game is a cross between Stardew Valley and X!" zzzzzz

[old dirge]

it's missing some normal accessibility features/settings still, so not quite there yet

[sudden bay]

Cozy games are a video game genre that are designed to be relaxing and comforting, and to make players feel safe and warm. They often have low-stress vibes, charming visuals, and non-violent mechanics. Cozy games can also be story-driven and welcoming to gamers of all types, including those who may not be experienced gamers.

[thorn cypress]

And lets not forget the cross between Animal Crossing and X too lol

[rare pine]

I've yet to find a game that captures Stardew's magic. that game is lightning in a bottle.

[old dirge]

cozy games also have painful backstories for their characters some reason

[dry swift]

Is running around Kilima/Bahari cutting down trees and mining rocks/fishing/catching bugs slow-paced?

[sudden bay]

Sure...no one is making you do it

[gritty socket]

Yep. Been that way to some degree since Harvest Moon

[dry swift]

I mean, if you want any sense of progression in the game at all, you have to do these activities because there is no trading.

I could play Solitaire and make no moves and argue that Solitaire is a slow-paced game because nobody is making me play Solitaire.

[loud axle]

Trading is cheating, remember

[sudden bay]

that's the trade off I guess. But it is a cozy game by the definition. You could play all day and not have to progress in the game.

[woeful dust]

Pekis and ormuus, and rifroc oh my! Pekis and ormuus and rifroc oh my!

[old dirge]

"oh a nice little [whatever type] sim with warm and cute design... and murder and trauma and the evils of capitalism and unprocessed grief" it's been interesting learning about cozy games and seeing some streamers having to add a warning because their chill comfort stream now has deep deep emotional processing

garden witch life starts right off with you being part of a 50% reduction in force at work and ouch that hits painfully close to home but at least it's not death and war i guess

[dry swift]

To be fair, would we want to play video games with no emotional attachment that were just "Hello Insert Generic Hero! We need your help to fight the evil Insert Generic Villain!

There's a reason why games that would otherwise be a movie like Detroit: Become Human do so well.

[gritty socket]

I mean, there have been plenty of games like that in the past that have done well. Sometimes you just want all mechanics, little plot.

[woeful dust]

Cozy to me just means low stakes. Not much action, can't die if I zone out

[untold sluice]

Idk if cozy games were all sundrops and rainbows I'd find them to be dishonest and uncanny and kinda creepy.

[old dirge]

just surprising for a comfort genre? i thought cozy games were a common burnout and after therapy decompression choice.

[untold sluice]

Like utopianism is so creepy and unrelatable. Imo cozy is a light in the darkness

[woeful dust]

Light cannot exist without darkness

[untold sluice]

You cant feel cozy if everything is perfect.

[gritty socket]

Honestly, sometimes it actually can be therapeutic to see representation of the same problems I'm going through echoed in a game's plot

[old dirge]

it was just the intensity that surprised me, there can be conflict and tension without survivor's guilt or murder

[dry swift]

I'm sure people like to relate to someone else, even if that person is fictional.

[woeful dust]

... Reth isn't real?

[gritty socket]

I relate to Jina (and Reth to a lesser extent) so hard, as someone who studied for a field and then realized "oh, I have no passion for this"

[dry swift]

Of course he is! I was talking about the Galdur 🙂

[sudden bay]

What?! and I chose him for my shepp!

[old dirge]

i guess it's like when a super popular for everyone bit of media is talked about only in terms of it's plot and relationships but the graphic violence or whatever is never mentioned by anyone talking about it - i'd never heard anyone mention the tragedy in most cozy games before I started to play (attempted a metaphor, cuz we're having a "divided by a common language" problem here i think)

[untold sluice]

Cozy is, imo, pillows in a warm room while it's raining outside and you got wet and are drying by the fire.

Can't have it without the strife and the rain.

Also I only relate to people with problems. Perfect people are not interesting. They need strife so that when the love comes you get some kind of catharsis.

[gritty socket]

Wait... EINAR ISN'T REAL?

[dry swift]

Only in our hearts

[woeful dust]

Yeah. Ngl my heart strings were tugged when Jina asked if I was her best friend

[untold sluice]

Y'all are not accusing my boyfriend of being fake what

[thorn cypress]

And he fully has my heart

[sudden bay]

I mean No one gets called "babe" by Reth but me right?

[dry swift]

We cannot know comfort without having suffering. Unfortunately that's just the way the world works.

[gritty socket]

Part of why I'd personally be fine with combat of some stripe; I love the fiction of going out, fighting some beasties, selling what I don't need and keeping what I do, then just relaxing by my fireplace

[sudden bay]

I believe some kinda of combat is coming due to Sifu making swords. 😉 Just a guess.

[untold sluice]

There is just combat in so many games it's not novel to me. So I don't really care.

I'd rather see like rain and environmental hazards like mud and needing to drive a wagon through bad weather or something lol.

[gritty socket]

She's been hammering that anvil for a month now; that metal's not going to be good for anything, let alone a sword

I'm kinda excited to see all the stuff that isn't in the patch teaser, tbh. I love new features, but I also love the smaller stuff like new animations

[untold sluice]

I'm hoping the dream house is a new building and not just a name for a UI feature like say the ability to visit a random plot or a player rating feature.

Kilima needs more buildings. Imo

[woeful dust]

Darn military industrial complex taking over our cozy game!

[untold sluice]

Poor Subira still hasn't left her hotel room.

[sudden bay]

Does she even have a bathtub?

[untold sluice]

Would love to see the whole grassland area to the south and southwest fill with housing and more Diaya farmland.

[untold sluice]

She uses magic I guess. And come to think of it the Inn doesn't have a single bathroom.

[woeful dust]

Great place for ormuu racing...

[gritty socket]

I get the feeling that we'll see her get a schedule around the time we get new main storyline stuff, since ||she's implied to be a major player in the future||

[untold sluice]

I mean in the cinematic that released with the beta that whole area near Daiya farm was rolling cropland with tomatoes.

[gritty socket]

There's only 4 toilets in game so far, so I'm not all that surprised

I want a Ranch House Toilet so badly

[woeful dust]

My throne room is incomplete T_T

[toxic pivot]

New pets are great but i wonder how any of them really fit in the lore.

[untold sluice]

I feel like she probably walks into Elderwoods and maybe has a tent out there and they just don't want to do a temp setup

[untold sluice]

Plumbing expansion when?!

[gritty socket]

...I just realized I have a reason to use those PalTech pipes

[woeful dust]

Mario crossover!

[toxic pivot]

i mean toilets and baths are clearly illigal contraband as are paintings and rugs 😂 only avaleble by the evil grimalkin underground!

[untold sluice]

The Paltech set is my fav in the game. So cozy.

I love the little hot vents making it look like I've got central heating

Would love non-hot versions that are just vents.

Would be perfect for central AC for those little details.

[toxic pivot]

i like the paltech set aswell, had some neat stuff i really enjoy

kinda wish we had more options for our cooking stations to suit other styles too

[gritty socket]

I still need to make an outdoor forging area, tbh. That'll get a lot of PalTech use

[woeful dust]

I use the big vent as a pizza oven

[untold sluice]

I turn the iceboxs around and make it look like a boiler room.

If only we had basements.

[woeful dust]

Ooo creepy witchy root cellar

[gritty socket]

There are so many little variant pieces I'd love to see tbh... my big one would be a tileable version of the Ranch House countertop

[untold sluice]

I really want wall foliage like roots and vines so bad. That vine wallpaper is not it.

[untold sluice]

Yeah I really want cieling pipes.

Still so few things for ceilings. Since ceilings are standard size too Id love if they had floor to ceiling pipees.

And of course cieling foliage like hanging vines and roots popping out, etc.

[woeful dust]

Do you like the mushroom woods wallpaper? I like using it as the foundation outside the house

Ceilings are so low I feel squished putting anything on the ceilings

[sudden bay]

I would like more clutter....like more kitchen ware and gardening things like a real shed and shovels. Maybe some mailbox options or selling bin options too.

[gritty socket]

Ugh, I forgot how much of a pain setting up fences is

They're inconsistent at best. I just want a pretty picket fence around my lot

[untold sluice]

I'm not a fan of any of the animated wallpapers honestly.

I'm more of a naturalist. Would rather something that looks real. Id rather get actual large mushrooms and trees to put around and more slots for windows.

Maybe the soup one is cool.

[woeful dust]

Yeah I would prefer to have more natural looking wallpaper. Have you seen the decorating hack for placing mushrooms and flowers so that they look like they're growing on walls and trees?

[polar elbow]

I'd really like to be able to change the frame(wood trim) of my house tbh, or at least paint it

[toxic pivot]

i wish we could have more open ceilings like the harvest houses have, the ceilings feel to low in additional rooms, most lamps feel so low

[untold sluice]

Yeah but it ain't enough haha.

[thin storm]

i just got the miner's anvil and I did not expect this disappointment.

[hidden copper]

perfect place for all things preserves jar

[pearl wave]

In my opinion, s6 should change how crafting license works because, i really want to deco but, that's is preventing me from doing it.

[fiery perch]

Yes, the plushes have large hitboxes bc of the tail.

[rustic perch]

Probably because the size of the plushie

[fiery perch]

It makes me sad since sometimes i want to push them closer, even if the tail is a bit clipped into the back of the chairs/seats haha

im probably just spoiled with sims 4 since i can clip anything on there w/ the moveobjects on it.

But yeah. i just want my plushes to be cute in chairs haha

[barren wyvern]

You can use stools as an alternative to chairs if you're willing to do that.

[woeful dust]

When the npcs ask things like "What do you think I should add to the underground" or wherever, do you think s6 is keeping a tally of what players answer to figure out which they should add?

[jovial pawn]

Also let me place my Star jam/pickled items and star grilled/campfire items

[gritty socket]

Fun fact: Zeki's question, at least, actually has a follow-up dialogue when you talk to him later based on what you suggest. The follow-up to the Water option of "books" made me cackle

[woeful dust]

I'll have to try that one next

[gritty socket]

It can take a bit to show up sometimes

[plucky veldt]

I don't know if this is already a known thing, but I couldn't figure out Subria's star stone so I tried giving her Onyx(since I thought it suited her) to see what she'd say, and she accepted it saying "How did you know I wanted this?"
Sooo, maybe her starstone is Onyx

[tribal glade]

how do we equip a new tool style we bought?

[dire kraken]

inventory -> collections (left of premium store icon) -> tool skins

[tribal glade]

thank you!

[rotund berry]

you could try putting them on a stool and then merging them with the chair you like 👀

[half prism]

Question for Discussion: What is your strategy to actively make money now? Where do you go and what equipment/tools do you use? How much are you making per run? I’ve been fishing and each full run is about 20,000 but I’m so tired

Do you use buzzy jars or just randomly go for it

[woeful dust]

When I'm online I use an ore compus and mine a tonne of palium and iron, which I sell the iron. My farm is an apple tree surrounded by potatoes and tomatoes, I can everything into 13 preserve jars while I'm asleep, and I currently have 5 glow worm farms that I then put stacks of some preserves in to make hundreds of harvest boosts while I sleep which I dump onto my farm. And then I either sell or fish with the glow worms

I make about 10k overnight, another 10k from mining if I'm really grinding. And then I fish in the home pond since it's the most time efficient, but I haven't been paying attention to my take home since I just dump it into the box directly

[half prism]

How much do you all make per full run?

[celest maple]

What are you MUST HAVE A TON OF ingredients for when you cook with friends? I got a few people to cook with me earlier to complete the weekly challenge but it seems we kept running out of stuff

[half prism]

I usually keep a bit of everything cause I’ve been playing for awhile. I pick up everything and then dump it in my chest. Then once a day go through and take out the excess.

That’s a pretty good day.

[mortal depot]

does anyone know anything about the elderwoods im a fairly new player so sorry if this is overasked also where would be the best place to discus

[autumn axle]

Can we change our character’s gender?

[mortal depot]

i think so

hmm maybe not my bad

[dire kraken]

yes, in the mirror at jel's shop along with your appearance

[autumn axle]

Great! Thanks!

[woeful dust]

The characters have dropped a lot of hints about the Elderwoods, but not a lot of details yet

[mortal depot]

thanks 🙂

[woeful dust]

There's a lore discussion channel on the discord, you might have better luck with more details there

[mortal depot]

tysm

[woeful dust]

I, and a bunch of players, suspect that the Elderwoods is going to be the next area. I'm hoping for an Elderwoods tree house 😄

[mortal depot]

that souds so cool

[ashen prairie]

Hello, so I think the noise might be your Flutterfox pet? I only think this because I had something similar when I got my first Palcat, only to find out 4 months later that they purr!! I was listening for the grove and kept hearing a strange sound (I had turned off certain sounds). Then I asked in my Discord and they said it was my pet Palcat purring lol. Hope this helps answer your question. ❤️

ah okay lol, that is really strange then!

[fervent widget]

When doing lady bugs for a plush anyone know if it has to be a starred ladybug or will plain ones have them too?

[polar elbow]

plain will have them too

[fervent widget]

Cool

[polar elbow]

the best way to find ladybugs is to gather a group of like-minded people to forage alongside you, each person harvesting the same forageable is an extra chance for a ladybug to spawn
did that with 3 others the other day and got a plush in under an hour

[celest maple]

That's pretty smart. I need to upgrade to the final chest to get a lil more storage

[sudden bay]

Anyone have a guess what we will need to make the metal building blocks?

[narrow oyster]

Copper and Iron most likely

[sudden bay]

I figured. That's going to dip into my decorating budget. Time to start mining more

[silent hound]

Same

[manic spade]

it might be your |||silverwing|| if u have completed that temple already

[dire river]

Jel's Gender Affirming Surgery services~

[normal saddle]

His fashion line so good he can trans your gender

[dire river]

So that's why he had the NB flag (though upside down) in the back of his shop ~

[normal saddle]

He's a little confused about these new human flags, but he's got the spirit!

[frigid walrus]

Is there any chance your silverwing bird nest is near this spot? Or maybe on this spot on another plot? Like the flow tree sounds coming through on other plots, that kinda thing.

Pretty sure that is it, I just checked on mine, if I go to a different plot and go to the spot where my silverwing nest is I can hear him.

[celest maple]

Seven hours hunting NOT ONE PLUSH 😭😭😭

[rustic oyster]

I got all my plushies without hunting for it. I always noticed them when back home and looking what to sell

but I only have 2 sernuks and 1 banded muujin from hunting

[glacial maple]

So I don't get the builder's crate thing. Is it all you can do is stack or arrange boxes in shapes? Does each one count toward the object limit?

[eager pawn]

What do you think who get a new friendship level?

*gets

I personally think that badrus family will get it

[mossy jetty]

I'm thinking something order related so like subira, maybe idk auni? and someone else, I was thinking caleri but I feel like they'd do that at the same time as her sister so them both or maybe someone like tamala?

[fluid zephyr]

Does singularity look at ticket requests during weekends ?

[spring granite]

heyyy i have a question, i don’t have enough wlan to log into my palia account on my PC, do i still get rewards if i log into the web in my palia account?

[gusty fossil]

I'm not really sure what the issue is, but no you need to log into the game and see your character in the world.

[spring granite]

ohhh yes you solved my problem thanks

[dusk belfry]

I figured we would be getting the lands where the hotpot tables came from since there drag marks coming from there

[celest maple]

You can build whole buildings and platforms I've seen someone make a castle and yeas each individual piece counts. I built a fishing dock and a band stage on my plot you are welcome to check it out

[dusk belfry]

where do you buy the blocks keep forgetting when i have spare cash

[red seal]

all in favor to beg the devs to let us change the floor and set something down here by the stairs since there is already a grid to snap to there say aye

[golden zephyr]

Aye

[earnest epoch]

Aye

[signal dagger]

Ey yo

[dire kraken]

no they have working times as well. can’t remember when exactly but mon-friday for sure

[slow dragon]

https://streamable.com/k2pnge lmaooooo

[wraith gulch]

does anyone have tips to get plushies?? i have about 1000 arrows in and cant get any for sernuks

[signal kayak]

pray to rngsus. there are no tips to get the plushies

[modern rock]

if possible party up with other people hunting sernuks, if a party member kills a sernuk within 30m of you you'll get the loot as well. goes faster with other people

[median orbit]

is there a way to permanently disable the "Strange Things Afoot" quest from popping up on my screen every single time I log in?

I don't see the point in it continuosly taking up a portion of my screen if I can't even complete the quest yet

[signal kayak]

go to your quests in the menu and unpin the quest

[median orbit]

I do that, but then every time I switch servers or log back in, it's there again

I appreciate it as a temporary solution, but having to unpin it every single time gets old after the first 50 times

[solid osprey]

I think because it's a story quest it gets autopinned? I could be wrong.

[median orbit]

i know why it happens, i just want it to not happen anymore

[autumn axle]

Hi I am playing this on Steam. Can I change my character's name? I can't seem to find the answer.

[modern rock]

you'd have to make a support ticket so they can change it for you

[autumn axle]

Oh okay! Thank you!

[ripe yoke]

I play on Switch but I have a quest called Strange Things Afoot and it says Wait to hear from the order. I read the walkthrough and it talked about someone named Subira. Who is she? Because she isn’t on my game

[modern rock]

a new NPC unlocked after a series of quests. fit for a watcher/your order is served/extravagant expectations

[ripe yoke]

How do I get to Extravagant expectations?

[modern rock]

you should get it by mail after finishing your order is served, iirc.

[ripe yoke]

I literally just got it thanks!!

[wraith gulch]

why does it when im at the prep station to cook something, it says I need the prep station to cook it and cant because i dont have it?

[ripe yoke]

I think you might need a second one that’s what I had to do

[ripe yoke]

Can anyone help me?? It won’t let me add a room even though there is nothing in the way inside or out

[flint igloo]

Is it on the side where you need to open the plot with writs?

[ripe yoke]

No it’s already opened

[flint igloo]

Have you tried moving your house to see if something is hidden there?

[ripe yoke]

I just did it and it worked thank you!!

[flint igloo]

Yay!

Hi Kagsoul. I wish I could answer you but I think you need to wait for one of the mods

I was able to read it but the mods are the only ones who can handle the situation. For me when there are uncomfortable discussions, I just try to move on and not let it affect me when I know I have done the necessary steps like you have. I am not making light of anything here. Give the mods a chance (knowing it’s also the weekend and a beautiful summer day).

[dry nimbus]

I noticed something off or mistyped with the underground affairs quest spoilers of conclusion ahead || so when you return with the nightlight info for Subira she mentions how she hopes Zeki doesnt plan on using that for something dangerous or going against the Cartel on his own, you then have the option to say the person was wearing a mask or that it was Zeki even though she clearly just said it was him lol if you tell her it was Zeki she acts shocked ..... lol||

[flint igloo]

I didn’t even notice that

That is a good thing to add in the feedback channel #📬│feedback-how-to

[remote mango]

Stop actively looking for them. lol whenever I’m just playing and not trying to get something specific, then I finally get it. 🤷🏼‍♀️🤣 or like someone else said, hunt in parties for better odds. GL

[wraith gulch]

thats what Im thinkin lol i have bee trying for hours and spend hundreds of arrows now

[flint igloo]

Parties are the best way I have found to get the plushies. #1143270926394335282 I have also randomly joined groups that were hunting - everyone has been appreciative of the help. If you see people mining, stay one step behind them and don’t hit the rock at the same time. A bug might come out after them. Same thing goes if someone is behind you, stay and wait. This also goes for foraging in Bahari for the ladybugs. Don’t all pick it at the same time. Take turns and more ladybugs 🐞 can come out

[rotund nymph]

Has there been any talk about reducing the price of the store items to something reasonable? Spending that much money on a cute outfit unattainable inside the game is just...too much. I want to collect outfits and stuff but I can't justify the extremely high cost :/

[signal kayak]

no, and probably won't happen unless they decide to change how they get money from the game (still think the suggestion of a paid cosmetic subscription of 5-10 usd a month would be the ideal way to go)

[bronze sparrow]

any plan to introduce a battlepass? or cottagepass or something?

[rotund nymph]

I wish they'd go this route. I would happily spend $5-15 a month to get a monthly selection of cosmetics

[signal kayak]

again, nope. only cosmetics will be purchasable. they don't want to make palia a "pay to play" game. so nothing like paying to have crops grow in an hour or something like that

[bronze sparrow]

i was only talking about cosmetics

[signal kayak]

well, as of this moment. it would go against what they have set down for their game design

ah, misunderstood, sorry.

[bronze sparrow]

so many people (like me) would spend money if there was a season pass system

[signal kayak]

it would be the best way to go, imho. you would have access to all the cosmetics that are in the store or planned to be released to swap out as you want to, as long as the subscription remained active. for those that do not want to go into the subscriptions because they only liked that one outfit, they could still buy the item but at a cheaper price than what is in the store since most of the income would be going through that subscription sales

[vagrant star]

I don't like subscriptions much, but your model sounds like a good idea...

[rotund nymph]

I wouldn't like not being able to keep what I redeemed that month, but something like that yeah. WoW introduced the traders post and you can complete in-game activity to earn 1k tenders plus all active subscribers get 500 tenders right off the bat. I'm not happy with their pricing either of their items BUT I do like the ability to earn currency in game + subscription benefits to then purchase the monthly selecting of mount, minipet, cosmetics, toys etc

[signal kayak]

also think that they should offer the pets for free, so f2p players don't feel like they have to spend money on things if they don't want to. the regular palcat color given to everyone or the basic flutterfox and the upcoming pet on tuesday (make them questlines to be rewards) and then charge for the different color variants as skins. also, pet cosmetics are being massively overlooked. people would probably love to put an outfit on their pet that matches what they are wearing

[rotund nymph]

Hell yes preaching to the choir here. I'm a pet collector in wow (1602 pets and counting baby!) And I was SO disappointed by the lack of collectability in Palia.

[bronze sparrow]

pets in this game kinda feel just like an extension of player outfit, as far as I've seen. if the player moves one cm it moves 1 cm with you. i feel like more interactivity with pets would be nice

[polar elbow]

sadly, pets are very likely to not get interactivity as long as the feature as a whole is paid-only, because they want it to remain "purely cosmetic"
which is why I argue that they should allow f2p a pet, even if just one, so they can give the pet proper features and interactions and market all the other pets as skins for that pet instead

[signal kayak]

agreed. i broke down and bought the set that granted enough coins for the flutterfox since it looked so cute (and yet i still haven't bought one because i'm torn between two colors and don't know which one i want more), but truly f2p players should get some form of a pet as well.

[polar elbow]

this game is in a really rough place of monetizing "only cosmetics".... yet by monetizing ALL of them aside from defaults and limited time promotions,
they have created a situation where cosmetic-motivated people either steer clear of the game ("I don't want to play a game where I can't earn cosmetics")
or lose their drive to play once they realize that there's nothing they can work towards/earn in the game that appeals to them

[signal kayak]

i do like one of the sets the Butter Flyer, but I only like the top of one (it fits my character's aesthetics and so far is the only outfit that i truly like)

still wish that they would separate the clothing into the pieces. i just want the top of the set, nothing else from it, just the top

[polar elbow]

I bought one outfit back at launch, and then after they revealed in the AMA that they had no plans to give f2p earnable cosmetics at all, that soured me on the premium shop and I refuse to buy anything more until they change their stance on the matter

Honestly I'd just be happy with one outfit per skill, that you could earn to represent your love for that skill

one earnable hunter's outfit, chef outfit, bug hunter outfit, fishing outfit, forager's outfit, etc

[signal kayak]

maybe have a piece of it at certain milestones after level 50 (i.e. have a chef's hat at level 75, a top at 100, and the shorts at 200 or something like that)

[kind spruce]

I agree 100%

[polar elbow]

skill-based earnable outfits could absolutely coexist with premium outfits for, well, literally everything else lol
I don't mind at all that the fairy outfit is premium, or the ninja outfit, or, well, anything else really

because as things stand, I don't think it's cool to tell a player that they have to pay $$$ just to look like their preferred 'job'. To make a comparison to other games/settings....
A knight should at least be able to look like a knight, right? They need armor!
A mage should at least be able to look like a mage, right? Let them have a robe!
An archer should at least be able to look like an archer, right....?

But nope, the knights and mages and archers are all stuck wearing basic T-shirts and pants or something, and they have to pay up just to be able to look like what they are

[signal kayak]

on all of this pets could also be the same. plumehounds can be a quest that Hassian gives to you once you reach level 100 hunting, Asuma could give the flutterfox for hitting foraging level 100 (again as a quest, heck, make it associated with having a friendship level of 4 (or now 5) with the characters. Badruu (or any of the family) could say that a barn Palcat had a litter of kittens and wants to give one to you after having food going missing and wants you to figure out what it is. The new pet coming out looks like a little dragon of some kind with it breathing fire, Hadori or Najima could mention about it. Something that f2p players can get a pet instead of being forced to buy something that they may not have the means to do but want one.

and again, make the different color variants the cosmetic skins for them

[vagrant star]

Yes... I'd be way more likely to buy something if I can try it for free... Doesn't even have to be forever, give us a costume borrow shop that lets us get 1h of wearing paid clothes for in-game currency once a week or so and I'd be totally happy with that! Just a way to try out my outfit in the world's lighting before buying, you know?

[signal kayak]

it's why i think a subscription, again not much 5-15 usd, would be an ideal work around. it grants access to everything that the shop has to offer, swap clothes out on the whim if you don't feel like wearing what you have on. then if there is something that you absolutely love you can hard buy it and keep that outfit forever even if your subscription stops

[vagrant star]

I specifically meant a way that doesn't involve spending real life money. I like to know what I get, especially if it's not just a small cheap thing...

[fiery perch]

In general this would be nice, since colours can look vastly different via wardrobe vs. to actually running around in game. it'd be nice to test and see how it looks when I'm running around a bit first.

[vagrant star]

Subscription would be great for people who love switching their outfits around, but don't want to buy everything at once, I agree! It's just, I feel like Palia doesn't give me a super strong incentive to buy outfits.
On one hand, there's not one I could see someone else wearing and say "yes this is really cool I want it!", since most of the items are not directly my style (I can't explain why well, just that they aren't). They're close enough to find some stuff I somewhat like and certainly could see myself to enjoy, but the default ones do as well.
On the other hand, there's almost no way for me to grow into liking a specific item/set or to build a combination I like, especially not one that I like the look of in the world. I can preview things in the wardrobe, but this, too, almost needs the "really great thing" reaction from the first option, and also looks very different from the actual game sometimes. There's no way to say, okay, this isn't perfect, but it's an okay look and let me try it for a moment, I could see myself to grow into liking it...

[fiery perch]

In regards to IRL subscription models-- I still think the way Deceive Inc has "battlepasses" would work and translate well for Palia, too. They keep their battlepasses up the entire time and you can choose which one you pay for, and put season-points/currency into, etc. That way it wouldn't have FOMO and you can go at your own pace, etc.

And Tarina already has mentioned and explained how I feel about F2P and earnable cosmetics well. I genuinely wish and would love skill-based outfits that are earnable. Really would showcase progression, along with how much enjoyment someone might have with said skill, too. and it'd be a nice incentive for people to work on a skill if they like that outfit a lot.

I want to note, you can put seasonal points into the battlepass without buying it, too. So you can purchase it later down the road, and get the "Paid ones" if you have them unlocked

[signal kayak]

for the most part, to me, a lot of the outfits are too flashy to be part of Palia, and they stand out almost like a sore thumb. i have so far only seen one outfit that when i saw someone post that it was in the wardrobe but not the store (Butter Flyers) i was like, "yes, i like that top, i want that top" everything else just never talked to me before

[vagrant star]

I agree with those skill outfits, ValkOrii! Especially if it's something like... 10, 25, 50 give trophy, 100 gives hat, 200 gives trousers, 400 gives shirt, or something really hard like that... Bonus points if your outfit is either clearly not gender-coded or comes in a typically-seen-male and typically-seen-female option. I know technically no outfits in Palia are gendered, not sure how to phrase what I mean. Just, not a pink sparkly glittery dress with high heel shoes, for example (I know it's an exaggerated example)...

[wraith gulch]

can you remove your house from your land? I have the normal house and want to get the grand harvest house. How can I remove the normal harvest house from the land?

im on pc if that helps

i figured it out!! it wouldnt move certain rooms until i moved other pieces

[tender mantle]

Does anyone know the official position of S6 on the overlay map some people use? My wife mentioned in chat last night that she thought it was a cheat and the entire server blasted her for saying that and claimed it's been said that it's ok to use.

[soft burrow]

i would reccommend shooting a message to modmail about this because this issue has been brought up a bunch by various people in this server and there have been a million different answers of all stances

[tender mantle]

Ok, thanks. We're not interested in using it but she was so distraught over the way ppl treated her for calling it a cheat that we wanted clarification, in case she's the one who's wrong

[soft burrow]

that's why people probably jumped down her throat and i apologize it happened. there is a huge amount of misinformation and confusion around it right now. the mods of this server probably have the closest to the truth on the topic. your wife isn't a cheat at all and they shouldn't have been so mean to her

[stoic frost]

Things wouldn't be this complicated if we could just get an official definitive statement on the matter.

[soft burrow]

yeah, that's why i suggested trying the mods 😦 the whole thing is confusing

[stoic frost]

The mods don't run the game, no use asking them. We need to hear it directly from S6 in an official capacity.

[fiery perch]

The closest we got was ""S6 neither endorses nor discourages 3rd party tools and sites as long as they're in players' best interests."", currently. (You can view the source via the #🌟│sixer-tracker )

I know that was in regards to a diff matter, but it still mentions 3rd party tools at least. But yeah, still vague tbh & not very clear.

[cinder temple]

And they may never clarify further than that, which is how other MMOs typically handle it. They generally don't go after 3rd party apps that don't cause harm or provide an unfair gameplay advantage, but at the same time they can never officially endorse a third party program due to the associated risks of using something that the company hasn't made or overseen itself. So apps are eternally in 'use at your own risk' limbo, no matter what kind of app it is.

[modern rock]

the issue is what the devs consider "players' best interests"/"unfair gameplay advantage". that's what needs to be clarified. surely it's pretty easy to argue that a real time overlay showing where rare resources are gives an unfair advantage over other players. unlike the paliapedia app or whatever which just gives stats and helps you track gifts and stuff

[fiery perch]

Blizzard's is technically like that for WoW, yes, but they do have an anti-cheating agreement, which does specify which kind are not allowed.
And FF14/Square Enix, strictly prohibits any third-party addons.

It's just the specific part mentioning "unfair advantage" that makes it vague, and unclear. It makes it to where it's hard to judge what actually belongs in that category, since that can be subjective imo. Like, for me, I don't find it to be an "unfair advantage" if someone is using an overlay to show where resources are, personally. But on the other hand, other people may think otherwise. Having that, you know, clear, would help haha

... plus, this isn't really an MMO, so it's hard to really say what is "unfair" because of that, imo.

Yeah, that's the one I was linking/referring to-- which is vague and not really clear, still.

[slow dragon]

uh

[ember tendon]

Have devs ever announced plans to expand the decor collections similar to the size of the dragon one? I find myself wishing there were a bellflower chaise for example 🥲

[slender crown]

🌈 Happy Pride! Because automod doesn't like my repetitive emojis 🤣

[cinder juniper]

It would be sick if you could see how much time left on your plants to mature for crop

[signal kayak]

was thinking that earlier as i waited for my apple trees

[sage hinge]

Id like to be able to remove crops prematurely as well if you wanna make space for something else

[signal kayak]

you can? you hold your hoe over the crop and (for switch) hold the x button. destroys the crop, so you don't get anything in return

[sage hinge]

Oh ok I didn't know that's a thing thanks.

I do tend to skim thru tutorials so I probably missed where it says you can do that haha

[prisma summit]

Yay! Proudhorn Beetle plushie!

[vague gull]

yo are we ever gonna get swimming?

[tacit basin]

I dont know why, but why is this bridge here? xD

[sage hinge]

Good point haha, just to look pretty ig

[steady field]

Is there lore for Palian pets?

The Palcats and Flutterfoxes?

I hope there will be a lore for the dragons

[rocky jungle]

not a bad haul!

[chilly marsh]

Is there any reason why we don't get more safe storage space? I swear it's driving me nuts. I literally HAVE to collect three of each bug and fish and I'm scared to cook or craft as it'll most likely result in me losing something that took quite some time to collect.
Not only do I want to keep anything gold starred safe, but also rare bugs and fishes. Please, give us more space.

[dull crow]

How long did you farm and what mining level are you

I mined for 4h and i am Mining Lvl 201

and all amythyst did come from small pal nods the big one only droped pal and 2 rubys

[chilly marsh]

Are you using an ore tracker? Or are you just mining anything and everything?

[dull crow]

Just mine everything no ore tacker or third party software like other people

And if i see pal i flare it and make a call so everyone can get it

[rocky jungle]

around an hour or so, lvl 15. no compasses just running around 🙂

[mighty sky]

RNG-sus must love you 🤣 still have yet to see the starred ruby... took forever to get the emerald & amethyst and im lvl 123 in mining lol

[rustic oyster]

im so sad that i sold my only ruby I found 1-2 weeks ago. I was broke and dumb 😄

newbie mistake

[dull crow]

Emerald only spawns in Kilima we got them rarly i think as lower you level you are more commen to get an emerald i got a firend who is just lvl 30 in mining and he got 2 Star emerald today

[vivid lichen]

Pure luck. It's not about level.

[winter abyss]

I really really hope ruby's drop rate gets increased.

[cinder temple]

There isn't and I ignite whenever I think about that. I want lore for all the cash shop offerings and, further, I want more things that have been mentioned in dialogue and shown around the game as options. Like, y'know, a Plumehound, maybe, since we know what those are and they're integrated in the game world.

[sick shuttle]

There is something to be said about luck when you get a star Proudhon antler before the plush

[vivid lichen]

Star antler is actually really common drop (atleast for me). I've had tons of them. The only plush i had was the mistaken Order one after 52 kills

[pearl wave]

any plans for s6 to expand limit of party members?

[lyric night]

nope (they also never share plans at all)

[sand basin]

The next update will have "party buffs", so maybe!

You could interpret that at least three different ways though

[pearl wave]

true

[misty chasm]

I want to suggest more storage man, I have run out xD, I have all 8 chests and havent unlocked lock chests

[sand basin]

I need more inventory storage with all these new drops (flowers, gems, plushies, amber, etc). Stuck abusing the overflow system to keep most of what I'm hunting

[bright ledge]

upgrade chests to copper / iron tier with blueprint at tish register

[honest scarab]

I know this comment was hours ago, but I strongly agree and wish S6 had handled their premium clothes/skins so differently. There is huge disconnect between the $$$ shop - pretty much all of it - and the game itself. I feel like the cosmetics are from some other game. Did S6 actually commission skins from artists who were given details, color stories, color samples, lore, skills, etc at all? Or did S6 just skip all of that figuring it would be too restrictive given how frequently they wanted to pump new stuff into the shop. For the sole source of money from players, the premium shop is just so confusing to me.

[misty chasm]

I didnt even know that existed.... i'm going to go buy that xD

[lyric night]

why should S6 limit the creativity of cosmetics tho. no reason to do that.

there are games with a middle age setting where u can get spaceship mounts

the problem of cosmetics in Palia is certainly not how they look but the pricing, lack of customization and being forced to buy a whole outfit

[cinder temple]

Why not both? Functional, well-customized cosmetics at a sustainable price that are put through the Palia world filter instead of mashing up styles before the game hits 1.0?

[mossy mica]

When Jina wants epic gifts, I think the hell not, ma'am. 🤣

[honest scarab]

Sure, "pricing, lack of customization, and being forced to buy a whole outfit" are also problems with pay skins, never indicated they weren't, and I could list at least 3 more issues I have with the $$$ cosmetics, but I was replying to a lack of connection between gameplay/lore and cosmetics and questioned the decision making for cosmetics. If someone runs around in hotdog suit with a plague doctor mask, and a mushroom hat that's their business, but I'd like something more connected to gameplay and story for my character, my enjoyment for the game, and the money I spend to support the game.

[sudden bay]

I think most are tied to the game even the hotdog one. I mean we can make "hot hounds" for a meal and the fairy outfit matches the butterfly's. The only one I don't get is the plague one but I think it's ugly anyway so I just passed by it. I do agree with being able to buy separate pieces and lack of customization should be added. As far as the pricing goes, well it's a FTP game. The people buying the customizations are essentially supplementing the players that play solely for free so I get the pricing structure. The only way I see they could lower cosmetic pricing is to initially charge say....$29.99 for the game and then sell customizations for a lower price.

[dull crow]

But i still hope they would introduce Palchest, Silver and Goldchest cause i really need more Storage and more plots maybe 18 Gatdenplots cause they keep giving us more different seeds.

[sudden bay]

I'm sure all that will come in time. Just have to be patient though I doubt they'd ever give us 18 garden plots

[dull crow]

I hope sooner then later cause its been nearly a year now.

[stuck torrent]

okay uhhhhh does anyone know what the sweet spot is to open Elouisa's flow gate in the temple

this is the second attempt 2 sandwiches later I'm losing my mind just a touch

i'm in the wrong spot mb

[dire kraken]

I don’t think they’d give us more plots cause gardening as a skill would be super unbalanced in moneymaking, for decorative purposes tho, I hope so

[umbral lynx]

Has there been any offical word that 9 is the pure hard cap limit though? I mean if they continue to add new crops we would need more space, like I get its to encourage rotating crops and trying new things etc but I mean they would just end up trapping a meta again for crops so expanding the area even with 16 total (I think that keeps is square?) means we could still plant everything for cooking but obviously later down the road

[sudden bay]

No they haven't said but I would imagine if we get more seeds they may up it one or two more. Honestly though since they came out with the new max of gold I am almost there and most of that is through gardening. They would have to drastically lower the selling price of crops if they gave us 16.

[umbral lynx]

I would like to see other skill farming to get love the last patch was a nice change of pace to see people out in the world and not on their plots

[clever tundra]

I genuinely dont like that flowers have a limit o(-( i know there needs to be a limit. But it still sucks

[clever tundra]

Would be nice as well if we can, at the very least, have 9 plots each housing slot. Not just 9 overall

And have bigger storage space

[umbral lynx]

In time I can see it expanding alot of things but right now we manage. The joys of beta things can always change

[dire kraken]

has the chance of getting recipes from piles increased? i got 2 recipes in a row, and a 3rd 2 days after

[clever tundra]

The rng gods have blessed you

[karmic snow]

hi plot is full can i go to my other plot and make thing or is it all the same number i maxed out on ty

[sudden bay]

Yes but trees, crafters and storage boxes are counted for every plot

[karmic snow]

yes i took most trees off lol

[sudden bay]

so yep, you can

[karmic snow]

so if i have new plot it starts over numbers

[sudden bay]

yes except for what I wrote

[karmic snow]

okay well ty so mucha

[sudden bay]

yvw

[karmic snow]

now i have to take down my tree house

[sudden bay]

oh why is that?

[karmic snow]

my plot is full i keep taken out my plants for other thing i made

and have a big deck by the house

[sudden bay]

what I did was put all my gardening stuff and crafters on one lot and I decorated the other ummmm 6