🌱│gardening

[supple stone]

Perhaps something like this.
Afraid you'll need one water/weed fert each day (you can buy a bunch and spam it on the tile) though

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-P.HTOBkCrRORP-BkPTRCrATBk.WA-OBkP.HAATAAO-TRBkPCrOBkRT-PTARCrRPBkP-AABkO.YCrPBkRT-ORPTCrRP.HBkO-BkOTRCrRTPBk-PRORCrBkOTP.H

[median brook]

Thank you, I will be using this then! And what do you mean with spam fert on the tile? Which tile? Which fert? I am so sorry I'm such a newbie at this T.T

Also, I am building this on my default home plot. But I got the snowy landscape and as I make money I want to move everything there. Would it be possible to pick up the garden as is and plop it down on the new home plot or would I have to buy 9 new soil or do I have to wait until everything is harvested and then pick up the empty soil? and thank you so much I truly appreciate all the help! ♥

[floral talon]

U forgot to account for pixies low level

[supple stone]

You can only have 9 soils total, not per plot. You will need to wait for the soil to be untilled (takes 48h from when it was last tilled)
The tiles that have the weed block fertiliser icon or hydro pro fertiliser icon in the picture - both are next to the apple tree

[supple stone]

No, I just don't rate Quality Up as being that useful unless less than level 10 or so. They'll also level up more, making QU even less useful. And it's easier to just have one layout that is good now and later. I didn't bother with Quality Up at all on my Ranching-tester alt

They're only level 9 now, but I'm mentioning apples because they will get access to it in 1 level time and they'll want apples for various things.

[median brook]

I'm only about 20% away from lvl 10 :)
And by 48hrs do you mean real life hours or two in game days? Maybe I will leave my home plot as is with all my crafters and stuff. Would make sense to make money on it to slowly build up my snowy dream home on the 2nd plot and then maybe eventually move the crafter things and soils onto that one IF there is room left :3

And once more, thank you so much for all the help. I am so happy I found this game it tickles ALL my fancies haha, so I am here to stay and I love how helpful this community is both in game and on discord. I'm such a happy camper you have no idea!

[supple stone]

2 irl days

Glad you're enjoying yourself though!

[lofty flume]

anyone has good layout for current most used crops for garden

[heady kayak]

Hello everyone! So I’m currently using preserve jars but I have no idea what main produce I should use. Can anyone tell me what the best produce is to sell for a lot of money compared to like other produce?

I’m also only level 8

[supple stone]

I'm general, best to process everything from your garden.
Not everything is best preserved though.
Bok Choy, Potatoes, Rice, Wheat, Beans and Cotton are best seeded.
However, this is in terms of absolute profit. If you don't have many crafters, it makes things far more complicated.

As for 'main produce', generally most people grow a bunch of different things so they have good coverage of buffs (Harvest Boost is great for profit, Quality Up can be useful for quality as you're a lower level, water/weed buffs are great for convenience)

If you are able to process everything in time, Bok Choy is by far the most profitable crop. It takes a long time to seed though, so you tend to need lots of seeders.

It's always worth growing Bok Choy if your aim is profit (even raw, it sells well), but if you don't have many crafters, you may want to process other things first

[median brook]

I set up everything after the layout you gave me and I have started to harvest things! I do have two more questions though please!

1. How much fertilizer do I put onto a field? I got tons but I am not sure how much to put down. I know which fertilizer to put where thanks to you, the question is truly about quantity^^
2. Do I plant the normal seeds and sell the starred ones?

[supple stone]

1. Up to you. Personally, I dump 99 fertiliser on the tiles that need it so I can forget about it for a bit. Some others refresh smaller amounts every few in-game days

2. No, plant the starred seeds. They'll increase your revenue by giving you more starred crops

[median brook]

Thank you will just spam fertilizer then!
Is there anything I should do with the normal seeds other than sell them?

[supple stone]

You can keep a few, some are needed for quests, but in general you can sell them

[median brook]

Thank you again! ♥ Have a lovely weekend!

[analog galleon]

Is pickling or seeding more profitable?

[floral talon]

jar everything u can besides beans bokchoi potatoe

[analog galleon]

o7

[misty ocean]

If I perserve starred pumpkins, are they worth more or the same?

[floral talon]

more but uhm
pumpkins are so terrible to grow do not preserve em stockpile em for cookign adn then just dont grow more

[misty ocean]

I've got 600+ so I was just wondering if it was worth it to preserve before selling or no, thank you!

[floral talon]

yeay it is if im wrong u can literly just look at price of one pumpkin open jarmaker look at price of one unstarred pumpkin jar and ad 50% to it to see whats more

[misty ocean]

alright thank you!

[supple wraith]

ohh no! but they look so nice!

[floral talon]

iik its really said that the pretty orange orbs are so bad to grow
very low coinage per hour
limited use in cooking due to extrmeely low production
useless buff for anyone above lv25 (and almost useles a few levels below)
dont grow in sync wiht anything

[supple wraith]

well. I rotate them with Spicey pepper. Which feels similarly...bad to grow. But I also designed my garden to look nice, so I make one Pumpkin or Spicey Pepper fit to fulfill some kitchen needs.

[floral talon]

fair fair
but well if profit or convenience is ur goal uhm dont grow peppers or pumpkins but i fu like growing em and get to many jarring is the way

[dawn marsh]

yeah, those two are the lowest profit value crops. like IIRC they are even lower profit processed as preserves than selling completely unprocessed bok choy is when looking at profit per in-game day per tile used

[olive pumice]

If you picked up any of those pumpkins from the Halloween store, you could throw those in/near the garden for the aesthetics?

[supple wraith]

some of those have been there since they came out maybe a year or two? ago. 😄
My layout was suboptimal in terms of gold efficiency from the point on I decided to fit my garden to the trees that have never been removed from the Original Plot.
I know that. My garden is optimised for my enjoyment of it, both in terms of long term entertainment, beauty and it used to be Growth boost, which was long removed from crops, now Harvest boost and water retention and being able to grow everything, as I host a little weekly friends Cooking party.
it has over fulfilled my gold need over the years, so I never felt I needed more gold efficiency.
I just found Duh's comments interesting to know.

[floral talon]

If u ever need something else let me know. and il make it but i feel like ur layout is pretty optimised for you

[supple wraith]

it totally grew into that over time. I could never use a calculator, because of the weird shape it has. But I just tested and shuffled. All of it is on a quite tight balance (tying into storage max, into processing machine max and so on.) I still read from time to time what the new hot thing is lately out of interest and to see, if I can adapt some things.
So I took up the advice on seeding BokChoi, Potatoes and Beans, but not 100%, because the duration got me into troubles down the line - these 3 seeders run full time - the excess still gets pickled. I really think that trying out for oneself is part of a games enjoyment, but that might be very old fashioned 😉

[floral talon]

yeay they balanced everyhting in such a way theres isnt some universla meta

[supple wraith]

that is actually a wonderful feat not many games can claim for themselves and truly inclusive and cosy.

[supple stone]

I definitely agree that trying things yourself is important and part of the fun.
But...I'm not entirely a typical player as you well know haha

[olive pumice]

That looks so good!

[supple wraith]

ty!
now you know, why I felt I had to fit a pumpkin

[shell whale]

hi guys, was just wondering but since plants grow at diff rates (apple vs carrot for example), do y'all just let the ready to harvest plants be and wait for the not yet finished ones, or do you harvest the ready ones>turn to seeds>and replant?

[clear kindle]

most of the time, and for a lot of the layouts, it is recommended to harvest and replant. the only time that you wouldn't do that is if you're going with an afk apple/bush farm in which you would leave everything in the ground to provide buffs and just harvest the apples and bushes as they come available

[shell whale]

alright, thanks for your help

[median brook]

Heyo n.n Does anyone have a garden planner set up for cooking parties with weed prevention and water retain?^^

[clear kindle]

this can be used for cake parties. this layout is meant to harvest only the apples and blueberries (though you can swap the blueberries with beans to switch it to a slightly afk gold farm) the apples and blueberries are 100% weed, water and harvest boosted. everything else can be ignored or if you want the aesthetic of the grown crops, you can water and weed until the buff crops are done and then ignore them

[median brook]

Thank you but I have been seeing and been to more other cooking parties than cake ones which seem to be on the rarer side. So I was hoping for a layout that covers a lot of the basic needed produce such as onions, beans, tomatoes, wheat and such :3

[west phoenix]

Anyone thats not too shy that could jump into a discord call and help me understanding something about gardening and garden planner, ive been using it for a long time but there is something that i quite dont understand ^^, Please add me as a friend and lets talk gardening 😄 i have some nice garden plans saved up too for money making!

[supple stone]

I'm not really a VC person, but if the question can be answered here, happy to try helping

[west phoenix]

Thanks but im a highly visual learner thanks to Adhd and other diagnoses so i can of need to click and see stuff to understand. otherwise i would have probably allready understood it as ive tried to read about it ^^ But i really apreciate you answering and wanting to help :)🙏

[floral talon]

nag to someone about my gardening knowledge? challenge accepted

[west phoenix]

Big Shoutout to DuhScape ^^ ty for the help and info!

[shell whale]

what do you guys usually use to make worms/glow worms?

[floral talon]

exces meats shrooms egss milk grilled low value fish

[shell whale]

thanks

[drifting wharf]

i have a question, does cotton only boost the ones directly touching it or also on corners?

[supple stone]

All buffs only extend to those directly adjacent, not diagonals.
So no, corners are not affected

[drifting wharf]

thanks!

[echo dagger]

When it comes to fertilizer, is it best to use it just before the day of gathering or should I just fertilize anytime I can?

[floral talon]

plamp down on a plant for hte amount of ticks it grows can use 1 growthtick amount les on water/weedblock cuz u dont care if it needs watering or weeding when its done growing

[stoic moat]

Is there like a graphic for showing the 100% Water/Weed garden patterns? The gardening layouts are great, but the crops make it so cluttered for me visually. Great guide to follow when planting though.

[floral talon]

?_? what do u mean by graphic

[stoic moat]

sorry i meant like in a simpler way so its not so visually overwhelming.

[floral talon]

uhm it depends on the layout some have a obvious pattern in em
and maybe u just want a simpler layout instead?

[stoic moat]

yeah i guess i am just missing the pattern 😅

[floral talon]

which one u trying to do rn thern

[next jolt]

I've already reported this through official channels, but I was wondering if anyone else's soil is looking like this when there's nothing planted on it? I've tried moving decor, moving the soil placement, restarting, and it was this way both before and after the patch.

When I plant on them they reappear, but not completely

[supple stone]

I get that in a few spots quite regularly. Thankfully it's fine when something is planted on those tiles, but it is a bit weird!

[floral talon]

what does?

[final tinsel]

hei, im beginner in the game.. can someone recommend me the best gardening layout for the best profit early on? please

[supple wraith]

some planting spots look like they are not tilled, although they are. They were referring to the picture above.
I also have that regularly, also the hopping multi tiled plants. Both of these visual bugs have been here for a long time and remove themselves when otherwise interacting with the tiles, ie planting or watering.

[floral talon]

Oh here i thought u just didnt till it properly xd

[floral talon]

Gardening lv?

[pseudo prawn]

Hi guys, just hit gardening lvl 11, what layout could I have to maximise the profit of my garden? Always finding it have no money lately

Currently been using the bullseye layout

[floral talon]

u might want quality up buff for a bit longer and always harvest boost u want water retain to?

[pseudo prawn]

@floral talon ideally yeah, tbh ive not really been using fertiliser so far on the layout ive been using

[floral talon]

il whip up the low level profitanator

[flat gale]

Anyone have an optimized garden layout for fish cooking parties/passive profit?

[floral talon]

run this for a bit proces what u can the cotton should be turnedinto fabric for self use

when ur level gets near 25 u can ditch the cotton and basically get a different layout

[floral talon]

i assume u mostly just want rice or anything else?

[supple warren]

Anyone have a layout for a bit of everything which i dont have to water each day possibly with 1-2 apple trees onit

[flat gale]

I used to do massive amounts of cake parties so my old layout had a focus on blueberries and apples, so whatever I'd need for fish parties like rice or whatever else is good. Just coming back into the game so I'm unsure what would be best, but my levels are very high so I can plant anything.

[floral talon]

its mostly just rice unles pokebowl or fish taco dishes but who hosts those pokebowl take twice as logn as the rest for only a little bit more per fish
and hte other dishes everybody overprep rice

[floral talon]

could run this layout a couple of rice rotations till u got plenty and hten grow whatever u want

[pseudo prawn]

@floral talon thank you 😁

[floral talon]

i mean i doubt ul keep needing rice that much as ul run out of stuff to buy with htose fish dish partys real soon

my bad i replied to the wrong one

[flat gale]

If it's really only rice I have a ton still, so I guess I should just try and find a good max profit layout. I hear bokchoy and batterbean seeds are very good, but I haven't planted to get star seeds yet.

[pseudo prawn]

@floral talon so I'm basically using the rice to make fish dishes?

[floral talon]

yw paul

[floral talon]

uhm i mixed up u 2 but if u do that ul get plenty of cash real fast

[pseudo prawn]

Ah nice, thank you again

[floral talon]

to make fish dishes for good money go to some party where someone else puts maws/epic fishes in so u can get up to 5k per round

[flat gale]

How does something like this look?

[floral talon]

ez to plant terrrible buff wise

[flat gale]

Welp time to mess around with it

[flat gale]

Is there not a calculated max profit farm layout by now?

[clear kindle]

if going for a purely money farm, then a field of bok choy with harvest fertilizer on them is the way to go. problem is is that it needs to be constantly babysat as it needs to be watered and checked for weeds every hour and the seeders can only hold 16 bok choy before stalling out which could put a hamper depending on how long you are offline and unable to clear them out to keep going

[mint sandal]

No, cause it will be different depending on how much you play vs someone else. It also depends on wether you're going for seeding and preserving profit, or cooking parties profit. It also depends if you want to grow at least 1 of everything or not. There's so many factors to take into consideration that there's no way to make a single max profit layout that will work for everyone

[flat gale]

In that case I'd guess I would want a farm that can require lots of upkeep as I play a lot, and good for cooking parties.

Thank you for the insight. I didn't bother educating myself much before doing cake parties and just used a farm layout someone who did cooking parties equally as much as myself used.

[tight quail]

What website is this? And can I use it on my phone?

[clear kindle]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/

[tight quail]

Tyyyy

[still sky]

How do people have SO many crop plots? I have the standard nine, but when I visit other plots on the board sometimes they have way more.

[uneven flume]

You can buy more from Badruu. Soil - Official Palia Wiki https://share.google/mEJDX9D9simkprT4O

[floral talon]

So ur saying some folk got more then 9 soils interesting

[clear kindle]

if they have more than the standard nine, then either they got a glitch/bug that gave them more, or they are hacking the game

[still sky]

Yea, that's the thing I have 9 soil plots, but the plot I visited had way more in this gorgeous garden space.

[floral talon]

And not those decor crops that u cant harvest?

[still sky]

They were actual crop plots with weeds growing.

[floral talon]

I want more soils to
But then again each sool has a unique idrntifier

[supple stone]

Most of the time they've hacked the game in order to do this, so it's not something I'd recommend trying to replicate!

[tight condor]

hi, I am new at palia. just 1 week. I fell a bit hard to level up in gardening. i see that recipes related to fish is really good to earn money. is that any advice for that two focus in gardening?

[floral talon]

grow lots of star quality rice for that
fishy dishes only worht it if someone else brings an expensive fish

[tight condor]

rice, ok

ty

[safe cave]

Are all apple stared ?

[cloud scroll]

Is there a layout that has:

• water retain crops
• weed prevention crops
• no fertilizer?

I don’t have all the recipes yet, but I’m thinking of planting crops that are used the most in cooking

[final tinsel]

level 6.. still early

[supple wraith]

that depends on your gardening lvl and before that on the seed you use for planting the tree. from a certain lvl onward all crops you will harvest will be starred, no matter what seed you used.

[cobalt ravine]

Do you think they'll ever add sprinklers?

[floral talon]

we can only dream
but yeay enuf neighboring plant buff and water retain fert so is it really necesary aside from making hte game way more relaxed

[wind sleet]

Does have any 100% water/weed layouts that:

1. Maximizes bok choy

• Maybe has at least 2 bean crops to lazy feed my animals? Not sure if it's worth doing yet tho

2. Has at least one of every crop
3. Does NOT need to optimize HarvestBoost from crops with the abundance of products from ranching I throw into my worm farms

My current setup is inspired by one of @mint sandal's with a few tweaks.
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-TPSBkCSTPBt-SPTSOBkBtWR-CoOBkCrPTAAA-BkCBtAAAAAA-BtCbPBkCBkPCbB-AAAAAABCBk-AAATPCrBkOCo-RWBBkOPmTPPm-BPTPmCBkPmPT

I'd ping @mint sandal but don't wanna disturb her, so I hope she'll see this message at some point :^)

[mint sandal]

This is a compilation of all my everything gardens: #🌱│gardening message

[mint sandal]

And here's one I just made with your wants. It's got 3 beans, 12 bok choys and 1 of everything else except cotton (it's useless once you're not a beginner at gardening anymore anyway)
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-PCbC.HBkCr.HBkCCbP-BkPT.HBtBtOBtBtBk-OTPBkBt.HBt.HPBt.HBt.H-Bk.HPWCBkCCbR.HCb-BBPBBTPBkO.H-T.HSSO.HSSBk.HP.HT.H-P.HPmPmBk.HPmPmC.HBk.HP.H-Bt.HBt.HTBt.HBt.HPTOBk.H_D360GtL75

[final tinsel]

can someone make me garden layout for lv7 gardening.. maybe i will hit lv8 tonight..
my goal is pretty much get as much money as i can, while playing less.. thank you

[last badge]

anyone with an AFK Apple farm layout they can share? I really enjoy hunting and mining so having to go home every 6am is a bummer

[final tinsel]

yes please

[last badge]

i've been spamming 81 bok choys from lv 4 to lv 13 and just started dealing with plant bonuses

is a harvest boost plant needed if I use harvest fertilizer? or i can just use weed block and water retain?

[warm pulsar]

you can get the boost from fert or plants, either works. just remember to put multiple ferts (one layer per in game day)

[last badge]

is that better than putting 100 fert at once during replants?

[supple stone]

Nah, far more convenient to spam 99 on a tile if you can.
Not everyone will feel able to spam click so much though!
One sec, I'll find a post with a few afk options

@last badge @final tinsel I have a post with links to a few compilation posts here #🌱│gardening message
One of those compilations is afk layouts

[last badge]

thank you @supple stone i'll try them out

well, once my apple trees are gone

[warm pulsar]

was trying to make a better garden for you if you want more cotton for star quality trees. harder than it looks lol

[last badge]

honestly that would be nice too i was trying to make one as well because i want to have some fabric

but yeah i can't seem to make it work in the planner

i've yet to understand stuff

[warm pulsar]

do you care about having many crops or would you prefer to keep it simple

[last badge]

simple might be better, since i won't have to look at the layout during every replant

also i don't have enough collectors(4), preserves(3) and worms(1), glow (1) yet

the crafting permits are still too expensive for me as of the moment

i should atleast get one for each plant im using right?

[warm pulsar]

i have this, downside is its not AS afk as id like but it does account for starred apples. Very apple focused. Once you hit lvl 25 you wont need this layout anymore and can go for a better afk layout. I used the more profitable (according to the site) crops but you can change as needed

[last badge]

what happens at lv 25?

[supple stone]

Crafting permits are one of the most efficient things to spend money on first tbh, more crafters means you earn back that money quicker.
Unless you're quite a low gardening level, it's often not worth growing cotton.
Fitting it in makes other buffs suffer in terms of coverage, and it's rather expensive to make into fabric, opportunity wise.
You end up being better off growing Bok Choy, potatoes, tomatoes, rice and maybe a few others, selling the produce and buying fabric then growing the cotton and making it yourself

[last badge]

im only lv 15 so i might be using that for a while

[warm pulsar]

crops become starred automagically

also one sec tweaking a crop

[supple stone]

You don't need to, collect and replant one type of crop at a time.
Then you only need to look at the layout of you accidentally mess up

[warm pulsar]

redid it cus im sick and forgot bok choy exists and is more profitable LOL

[supple stone]

With starred seeds, you already have a 80% chance of starred crops btw

[last badge]

i've been relying on choys for most of my gardening life

[supple stone]

So you only gain 20% benefit from QU, when it can give up to 50%.
Sacrificing that for better coverage of harvest boost is almost always better at this point.
Or better coverage of other buffs, for convenience

[last badge]

got starred seeds now, except potatoes, hopefully i get one soon

[warm pulsar]

i dont trust my rng enough to take a 80%

[supple stone]

Stick a starred potato in a seeder...

[last badge]

yeah no starred potato yet, that one potato I got, I gave to nai'o haha

[supple stone]

Fair enough haha

[supple stone]

You really have just been growing all Bok Choy I take it haha

[last badge]

honestly I should've planted more potatoes, i planted 1 potato and 80 bok choys during that time

learning new things

[supple stone]

All good haha

[warm pulsar]

it happens. the system is confusing at first cus its not like other gardening cozy games (afaik)

if i had to worry about crop bonuses when I plant ancient fruit in stardew id be screwed

[last badge]

thank you for the help guys, but there would be some waiting before I can apply them, I just planted this a few hours ago

hopefully i get a good amount of starred apples

[warm pulsar]

i know your pain

im waiting for my tree to finish so i can move it over a smidge

my goal

shes a mess but i wanted crops of many kinds and didnt care how it looked as long as it worked LMAO

[supple stone]

You will, DW 🙂

[supple warren]

Can someone else i need like a garden layout witha bit of everything, where i can afk and not have to worry til i have to harvest it thankyou in advance😆

[floral talon]

ok cotton is excluded as its cheaper to buy fabric and grow something else and far less headache

[supple warren]

Thankyou so much thats great
So i only need to put the fertilizers where it is on the grid

[floral talon]

yup u can ignore hte barvest boost ones but hten u get far less produce on those spots

weedblock can be ignored to the chance of getting a weed on that bokchoi before its done growing is quiet small anyways

[supple warren]

Okay thats great thank very much for your help, normally i just grow a bit of everything but not fun having to keep going back to water!

[floral talon]

yeay fair also everything layouts are more about harvest when u feel like it since so muhc out of sync harvests and replanting is sucha apain so use it as a fridge harvest what ya need whne ya need it

[wraith cedar]

Hey, uh, if someone posted a video in here and you're wondering where your post went, it got deleted and I think I accidentally got tagged instead by a mod, haha. Here's to my inaugural post to this channel letting you know. 🙈

[crisp grove]

Hey Sailor! In case you need more clarification, you can send a modmail on this

[wraith cedar]

Cool, yeah I'm curious since I've never posted in this channel, haha. Omg, unless I pocket posted 😱

[worn narwhal]

Will they ever add more farming plots?

[wraith cedar]

Okay, how do I do this? I can't figure it out 🙈

[crisp grove]

!modmail no worries! instructions below! let me know if you need anything else

[lone moss]

can someone clarify when we should be applying fertilizer? does it matter if it's applied before/after you plant?

[compact coral]

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[clear kindle]

fertilizer needs to be on the crop for every growth tic (every hour) in order for it to be fully effective, if you just place it before harvest there is a high chance that it doesn't work. you can stack up to 99 of a fertilizer on a crop so you don't have to keep running back to the garden to place it

[last badge]

regarding that, i have a question about fertilizing apples

after I put 100 harvest boost on each apple plot, when do i re-apply fertilizer? are more fertilizers even needed?

[rancid narwhal]

Does anyone know the biggest money making layout plzzzzz I just spent 400k on lucky coins now I’m broke

[supple stone]

Apples used 9 fertiliser per day.
So in 11 in-game days you use the full stack of 99 fertiliser.
You'd want to top up by then.
Apple trees take 30 in game days to fully grow, and for best results you do want the fertiliser present every day

[last badge]

so i'd top it off around 3 times

[supple stone]

Highest money layout is full Bok Choy with full harvest boost fertiliser, manual watering and weeding every in-game day.
But, honestly, I'd go with a layout you are happy with tending to.

#🌱│gardening message has links to a few different compilation lists.
Most of the money focused layouts there have full water/weed buffs

[last badge]

oooh i've been using the best plant I guess, except without the harvest fertilizers

[supple stone]

Well, if you apply 99 fertiliser when planting, you only need to top up at days 11 and 22

[supple stone]

If not using the harvest boost buff, you'd have been likely better off with a mixed layout that did have Hb buff on everything
One of the layouts linked has 55-56 Bok Choy plus heating to give everything HB without fertiliser. It's 2nd best for profit and you can use water fertiliser if wanted

[last badge]

got my 1st apple harvest on the 12th! already left enough to make an extra 5 seeds

[sweet cedar]

Guys I'm struggling, I'm sure someone posted a garden layout with rows of apple trees and 100% weed prevention and water retain

Could someone ping me in it if you know where it is??

[floral talon]

PING!!!! look above theres also variants with different fertilisers incase u cant get enuff harvest boost

[sweet cedar]

You are an absolute saint!! Thank you 🫶

[floral talon]

🫡 aw ty ❤️

[rancid narwhal]

tysm!!

[floral talon]

well i mean hes only wrong if u encalc the fertiliser cost
having a few bugging plants to consume way less fert creates some impossibly difficult to plant layout thats better

[wind sleet]

ty! will try it out and let you know how it goes

[remote needle]

Going to try this layout for a change:

[clear kindle]

can i ask why pumpkins?

[remote needle]

Canned Pumpkins supposed to be good for coins

[last badge]

What are your thoughts about using meat on worm farms? Are they worse than using crops?

[raw stirrup]

This is my current setup

Not the best but wanted something i didn't have to water + weed and still get the crops i wanted. Open to suggestions of improvement!

[remote needle]

If you want alot of worms and fertilizer I would go with grilled fish. Especially the higher value fish.

[white herald]

Can someone send a good Layout for beginners? Asking for a friend

[last badge]

is the time investment worth it having to fish and cook over just hunting a lot of mujin and sernuks?

[supple stone]

They are not. Canned Pumpkins might have a high sell price but you get so few of them that any other crops is better for profit

[supple stone]

It depends. If you just want a steady stream of glow worms and don't need loads of them quickly, then meats are actually very good. If you are worming for profit, glow worming meat is one of the best options (staircase/Floatfish Mushrooms are a tiny bit stronger in profit per hour, but marginally. 16g meats are joint second best)
Far better than crops (plus crops tend to be better preserved or seeded. Preserved crops can be wormed though).
I do feel that Ranching produce is better though, as it's very quick to get enough for a bunch of worm farms. But, if you use loads of glow worm farms, then you'd need extra stuff too

[floral talon]

Low production good profit and theres no better use for exces meats anyways

[slate kelp]

Hi sharing this layout with fertilizers (6 watering, 8 bad grass, 1 harvest) . Low work and good rent. 😁
Can have 8 ferts for sell bad grass.

[floral talon]

Seems decent

[worn narwhal]

Is there a good garden set up to have a little of everything?

[floral talon]

Here

[floral talon]

Above

[remote needle]

This was my other layout. The Garden Planner doesn't give a coin amount higher than the pumpkins and apple layout.

[floral talon]

u need to select the right coinage settings

[remote needle]

What do you mean?

[floral talon]

growthtick and correct gardening level and wha tu proces stuff into correctly

[supple stone]

You are comparing 6 preserve jars to 9 preserve jars on a per hour basis. So of course the apple/pumpkins with more preserve jars will make more per hour with 50% more preserve jars.

I would advise using the per growth tick setting for average gold, not per hour.
Then it doesn't matter how many preserve jars you have set.

Using the per hour method doesn't account for time you don't spend on the game either, so I'm not a fan personally

[floral talon]

per real life hour is kinda odd cuz some people cant proces everything while others have spare proces capacity so it dont say much

[remote needle]

I got the correct gardening level plugged in.

[floral talon]

growthtick button?

[remote needle]

I only had 9 on the other, because there was 3 different crops.

After upping the preserve jars and setting it for growth ticks the amount of coins didn't change.

[supple stone]

The number of crafters doesn't affect the average gold if you have growth ticks chosen as the setting.
But look at the average amount of gold, it's about 50% higher with the potatoes/Bok choy

[floral talon]

oh that days of harvest aint right u need to have a amount thats divisible by both bokchoi and potyatoe growht times like 15

[supple stone]

Yes the total amount of gold is lower, but that's because it is set to 5 days of harvest.
If you want the best way to compare different layouts using total gold made, always set it to 180 days of harvest.
That way, every single crop will have a whole number of full harvests, which is useful for comparing layouts (for instance, you get 1 Bok Choy harvest and 2/3 of the way to the next with 5 harvest days)

[remote needle]

I never got that much from this layout the whole time I was harvesting and processng it though.

[supple stone]

180 days of harvest can take 2 whole months if you play every day for 2-3 hours a day

[remote needle]

Thanks for the help. Apparently my brain is not able to think like it used to.

[supple stone]

Welcome 🙂

[remote needle]

I guess I am totally screwed now lol

[supple stone]

Why?

[remote needle]

Because I already switched my garden over

[supple stone]

There's no rush in this game, you can switch the layout when you are able to

[remote needle]

But I run through coin like water lol

Especially since I am in the building process on my plots lol.

[supple stone]

Cooking parties are the best for gold, not gardening

Hunting and fishing can also be rather lucrative

[remote needle]

My hands have a hard time with the cooking games.

I have been doing mining on the side too.

[supple stone]

Fair enough
If you really want to, you can remove the crops growing ATM using the secondary action of the hoe (right click on PC)

[floral talon]

yeay this why u should only stove rice on mawshimi and stuff like that

[remote needle]

I don't have any luck with catching maws.

[floral talon]

u dont have to aslong as others bring em u just bring rice

[worn narwhal]

this is what i ended up using as a layout for an all crop farm. I replaced a blueberry and a pepper with a carrot and batterfly bean just to get those in there

[trim wedge]

does anyone have the best layout for this bundle board? (beans, cabbage, spicy peppers)

if the cabbage isn’t in there, that’s okay! since i can get cabbage from the crop store but i need starred peppers & canned beans ☹️

[floral talon]

if it helps u only need one bean crop and one spicy pepper to comp it
try to harvest boost it
also u got a few days left to my knowleged (unles its tausday+ a week so not next teusday)

[slate kelp]

you can delete 1 apple tree and rework the space for add more various vegetables

[slate kelp]

Oh and for machines need :

Seeds collectors:

3 for creating seed for garden or for 1 Boy chok + 2 potatoes seeds selling.
6 for Boy Chok

Can machines:

Apples : 9-10
Beans/blueberry : 3-4
Tomatos 4

[slate kelp]

Here have spicy

[frail escarp]

Garden Planner Mini-Update
Hello everyone. Minor update, though apologies that it took this long.
Detailed Changelog here: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/changelogs

🐛 Bug Fixes:

• Gold output was slightly off when the Replant Cost setting was enabled and using processing.
• When using the Growth Speed Boost setting, if one crop type has tiles both affected and unaffected by growth boost, output was waay off.

✨ Info Additions & Improvements
Planner now shows more info on various things:

• Harvest list updated, can now once again see produce and potential gold value from a harvest, with estimated process time for that harvest. (Toggle it on in the options there, may be heavy in performance.)
• Harvest list now has a new button to see further stats for that day specifically
• Tending panel added, featuring a chart of which days have harvests and which days do not
• Tables of misc. info, featuring:
  • Shop costs for fertilisers & seeds (All Harvests' Misc Tab). Still yet to add configurations to impact the final gold output.
  • Per-crop misc tab, with various stats and said stats relative to each other (Growth Ticks, Gold Output, Processing Time, Harvests, etc.)

Thank you guys once again for your continued usage & support of the Garden Planner. Please report any odd behaviour & bugs you find, or things you'd like to see in the new displays.
Happy Gardening & see you next update!

[floral talon]

❤️ ty for ur hard work

[foggy quarry]

Thank you ❤️

[flat gale]

do you think replacing maybe 1 blueberry and 1 pepper for two batterbean would make a good cooking party layout? Or would you recommend a different layout for most crops being used for cooking parties?

[slate kelp]

If you no use pepper for cooking, look at my layout little more upstair from this message.

[coarse crane]

Anyone else notice their plants stopped growing?

[floral talon]

U have 9 weeds on ur soils combined timetravel knapweed grrr

[coarse crane]

Hmm is it not good to consolidate weeds to one soil plot?

[floral talon]

No cuz tldr knapweed timetravel bug

If only we could i could make a layout with 7 afk apple trees or more

Curse u knapweedbug

[coarse crane]

Ahh thank you

[winter lance]

Guys I am really sorry, this is probably a dumb question but how can I until my soil?

[floral talon]

need to be 48real life hours since u tilled it AND no crop on it

[winter lance]

Awesome! Thanks 🙂

[floral talon]

if uw ant to move it between plots make sure theres no fertiliser on it even invisible ones as then u cant pick it up

[gleaming condor]

Hello friends im looking for a good set up for a apple, blueberry, and bean farm.if anyone coukd help 😮

[clear kindle]

this is one that i use. the blueberries can be swapped out for beans (i do two beans, two blue). the apples and bushes are 100% water, weed and harvest boosted. the other crops would need tending if you wanted to either process for gold or if you want the aesthetic of the grown crop

[grim rune]

um what crops should I can

and what crops not to

and a good all around garden set up

including all crops

[clear kindle]

bokchoy, beans and potatoes want to be turned into seeds, jar everything else

[grim rune]

Got it

[digital pagoda]

I think I asked in the wrong place... we are not able to place the soil for gardening on the terraces right?

[ruby spade]

What app is this

[clear kindle]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/

[ruby spade]

So can we garden with this app for items/gold in game or no

[clear kindle]

it's a tool to help players plan out a garden to use in game. you can use it to see how much you could potentially get, as the planner is assuming that you are playing basically 24/7

[supple wraith]

https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1142204717489983528 might be the right channel, but as you also cannot put houses and trees on them without glitching, I think not.

[supple wraith]

no. this app only helps you plan your IG garden. You need to then go IG and execute what you planned in the app 😉 and well, actually garden IG

[zenith topaz]

does anyone know what makes the most fertiliser? I don't care about worms, just need more harvestboost

[floral talon]

grilled fish

[zenith topaz]

ty!

[floral talon]

u can also 24/7 exces meats mushrooms and milk/eggs

[zenith topaz]

yeah I'm doing that, but need more

[floral talon]

yeay the fert slurping ios real on some layouts

so basically the output of wormer depends on the gold value of the item u dump into em
and girlled fish or if u like cooking alot cooking items are the best contender for most per crafter per hour

[zenith topaz]

k, thank you. Im just playing more, so watering more, and it's eating up fertiliser faster than I can make it. Im trying to avoid buying it

[floral talon]

u cannot uby harvestboost fertiliser

[small sleet]

tbh ive just been using all my leftover eggs and milk from ranching and i always have atleast 500-1.000 harvestboosts in my chest

[floral talon]

1k is so much

storage taken XD
use ur wormers as storage

[small sleet]

I knowww !! And my gardens are always full with em so idk how I’ve got so many haha

[floral talon]

my record was 6k i wanted my storage space back

so now im using fertslurper to think that thanks to ranching i havent ran out of fert anymore

[small sleet]

[floral talon]

well ranching is infiniter fertiliser at the heavy cost of having alot of wormers ...

[small sleet]

Honey gives aloootttt of QualityUp fertilizer, if anyone uses those :)

[floral talon]

quality up ferrtt becomes less usefull over time FAST
i use mine to put on crops to clear the previous fert

[small sleet]

ive never used it tbh haha

[floral talon]

the window that poeple can use it and that it is still usefull is quiet short

[gray phoenix]

Do the giant mushrooms give seeds when full grown?

[floral talon]

the piksii bounce stuff doesnt if u mean those

[gray phoenix]

Thank you, it is and that’s a bummer

[floral talon]

they wanted poeple to keep doing piksii bounce and not just get just enuff to plant a ton

[gray phoenix]

I can understand that

[dire zinc]

Hi guys, is someone also unable to plant anything? I can til the soil but as soon as i want to plant whatever its simply not possible (I'm on steamdeck if thats relevant)

[ornate prairie]

is it selected on the hotbar ok? sometimes i have to toggle a few times until i can see the ghost image of the plant and then place it. are you seeing that ghost blueprint line?

hi everyone i've used 2 of your sick layouts already and one was full of apples and the other had one of everything and now i want a middle. i want mostly apples but the ability to put in bushes, even just one bush, but i guess 2 bushes would be ideal. the bushes wouldn't be touching the trees because i want the trees to definitely have coverage but the bushes can require maintenance, so like, i'd always have apple income, but i can grow bushes as i need certain ingredients

nevermind i found a great layout by using search in this channel and found one for cakes

[grim rune]

how any seeders/perserve jars does everybody have?

[covert heron]

I have a mere 3 seeders, but a set of 8 preserves jars. 1 seeder is always full of potatoes.

[clear kindle]

it depends on your layout with how many you need (also playstyle). for me as i only harvest apples and beans and leave everything else in the ground, i just have 2 seeders (1 for apple and 1 for bean) and then 8 preserve jars for the apples

[floral talon]

20 or something

[oblique reef]

anyone have a no water/weed one of everything layout?

[supple stone]

#🌱│gardening message
Follow the link in that post to the everything garden compilation 🙂
On mobile, so I can't click a link on a post I have searched for, else I would have given the direct link to the post

[forest sluice]

I just went from 2 preserve jars to 7....I think I'm gonna be adding more. The Napa Cabbage Kimchi Empire will not be denied. It's becoming an obsession

[floral talon]

Word

[mint sandal]

If you click "jump to message" it'll bring you to the post and you can then click the link

[supple stone]

Huh, did not expect that.
Good to know, Ty!

[wooden ferry]

Please can someone tell me how many harvest boost fertiliser I need to drop on each square to make sure I get the boost for bok choy? I believe if it is not present at every growth tick for the plant it does not give the boost at harvest? Want to be able to add when planting and ignore knowing the plant has enough to get to harvest

[floral talon]

3

[wooden ferry]

Tysm

[floral talon]

it has three ticks of growth so needs it for 3 times funnily enuf water retain and weedblock fert u need 2 cuz why care if it has a weed/water on it at hte last tick

[floral talon]

anyone got a blueberry layout for me if possible wiht tons of apples need one blueberry tops but more oculd be ok im to tired to whip something up today

[floral talon]

maybe i should remake the 6 apple but remove one apple or osmehting

[pearl oasis]

not at home but if you ping me in an hour I can probably whip something up then

[floral talon]

i think iw hipped something up myself now

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-Cb.WA.HA.HPA.HA.HOA.HA.H-A.HO.YA.HA.HBkA.HA.HCbA.H-A.HA.HCb.WA.HA.HPA.HA.HO-BkA.HA.HCbA.HA.HPA.HA.H-A.HPAA.HOAA.HBkA-AABkAACbAAP-OA.HA.HBkA.HA.HCb.YA.HA.H-A.HCbR.WA.HPRA.HOBk-BBOBBBkCbP.WCb this is my i njust need ot urin one 2x2 plant for like one time

[slate kelp]

Hi, are the Speed Gro work now ???

[supple stone]

Still buggy

[autumn timber]

It’ll probably be fixed with the next patch at least I’m hoping it is

[supple stone]

This is highly unlikely I'm afraid.
It's been bugged for a very long time, and rather than fix it, they removed it from being present on apple trees as its buff and made the fertiliser only available for gardening medals in the skill store (used to be from worm/glow farms before, not sure which one).
They probably did that because it can be needed for a quest, and they didn't want to lock people out of the quest entirely.

[autumn timber]

I didn’t know that it’s been an issue for so long thank you. I just got my apple trees a couple days ago and I was hoping it would be on the upcoming patch but thank you for telling me! 🙂

[prime oxide]

Hi there! I'm trying to stock up on HarvestBoost fertilizer, and was wondering if Glow Worm farms produce more fertilizer over regular worm farms?

[floral talon]

Fert same they do get clogged faster with reg worms filling the output slots faster
Some items are more moneys to worm regularly some better glowed generally glowwormer better

[misty valley]

Hey I play on the switch and I want to "kill" a vegetable that I planted on my garden. Does someone know if this is possible?

[floral talon]

whatever is rclicko n switch while holding a hoe

[misty valley]

Is r click making the ground before you usually plant a vegetable?

On the computer

[floral talon]

nah its the button u select ammo with in fishing rod belt and bow equipped

[misty valley]

I will try that thanks 😊

[brazen sorrel]

I wish we could have more garden spots

[oblique reef]

can you still infest a plot of weeds to keep them growing in the others?

[floral talon]

Ig u get 9 weeds things get funny so dont do strategic weedplacement

[night bronze]

Is there a way to figure out how to maximise the gold output on crops? Currently I have three apple, four blueberries and the rest split between tomato and potato (arranged like the photo)

I then preserve it all and sell. I'm not sure if there is a way I can improve the amount I'm getting with different crops or something. There's so much information I can't get my round it.

Thanks in advance!

[floral talon]

Ur layout is low on harvest boost

[agile salmon]

Does anyone have a good bean burger layout that has apples? I tried to do it myself but I just cant figure it out

[night bronze]

Would I be better swapping potatoes out for something that has harvest boost do you think? I use the boost fertiliser

[floral talon]

Ur layout is minmaxed for ez planting not production u need something else i think

[agile salmon]

This is the best I can manage

[floral talon]

Wow u must really like cooking random dishes

[agile salmon]

Its bean burgers ingredients

[floral talon]

U need pumpkins or still low level in need of quality up

[agile salmon]

It was to boost quality for nearby dishes and I feed them to my ranch animals

[floral talon]

Quality chances go up with ur gardening lv so u can eventually ditch it

Whats ur lv?

[agile salmon]

Like 10? I hate gardening i do it as little as possible

Id do it more if more than just harvesting gave exp toward levels

[floral talon]

25% +2%point per lv +25%(star seeds) + 50% with quality up all in percentpoints is ur star produce chance
So at 25 quality up does nothing with star seeds and 38 u can only get starred produce

[clear kindle]

[west crown]

This is very similar to one I use: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-Bk.YBBC.YBBBkPT.W-AAAAAAAAA-BkPT.WC.YBBBk.YBB-AAAAAAAAA-CrPTBkC.HBkTPCr-AAAAAAAAA-BBBk.YBBC.YT.WPBk-AAAAAAAAA-T.WPBkBBC.YBBBk.Y_L25Cr0.T.P-TP2-A.P-AP6-P.S-PS3-Bk.S-BkS4-C.P-CP-Cr.P-CrP-R.S-RS-W.S-WS2

The trick here is to use 12 fertilizer (which can be bought at the store) to do the watering/weeding for you. You can swap out the blueberries for beans if you like. This layout w/ fertilizer provides 100% harvest/water/weed boost.

[clear kindle]

i only ever harvest the apples and beans (as i swapped two blues for beans) so i don't need to worry about the fertilizers. but your layout is great for full harvest

[floral talon]

that one is greatf or poeple who wanna harvest everyhting while i made sylvas for poeple who are only interested in bothering with hte larger plants

[warm pulsar]

down with pumpkins

[crisp kite]

how do you see that???

[warm pulsar]

palia garden planner on website https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/

[crisp kite]

is it a game? what do you do lol

[warm pulsar]

its just a planner tool to organize your garden plots. its easier to see boosts and money that way

it doesnt transfer over to the game though

[night bronze]

Thanks I think I will give this a go. It's a lot higher than mine was on there haha

[clear kindle]

it's a nice "set it and forget it" layout. especially if you only harvest the apples and blue/beans (if you swap them out), which is what i do with it

[night bronze]

Yeah I've been doing mine mainly for them as that's what I was getting the most money for. I choose tomatoes and potatoes for the water retain but now I just want to maximise cash for the new house 😂

[sacred meteor]

saw ya in gen chat, ima give this a try when the game opens back up!

[warm pulsar]

tyty, as a note its easier if you have worm/glow worm farms for the harvest boost fert so you only have to buy weedblock (hydrate fert is optional since only one potato needs it)

i made it specifically to have as much crop variety as possible with as much profit as possible with minimal effort, the weedblock I wasnt worried about since Id need it for weeklies anyways and i use worm bins for the harvest boost fert

[split torrent]

heya guys, has anyone ever ended up with a missing plot? I currently have 8 and can't buy another one... and i've looked in all my storage and unlocked housing plots

also sent a ticket to tech support but I;m guessing theyre busy over there ^^;

[floral talon]

oof tuff luck maybe try the store again?

[split torrent]

fingers crossed the update dislodged something for me lol

[floral talon]

its also technically possible to place soils below ur plots where u cannot reach em anymore

[young plume]

Hey there, maybe i'm just stupid or whatever.. Is there a way to get NON Star blueberries? the hell i did everything and yes i use the non star seeds xD Almost everything else can be bought at Badruu but not this or hot pepper.. but sometimes i need such Non star stuff to fullfill requests or something.. Any ideas?

[floral talon]

star chance scales with lv after 38 u cannot farm anything unstarred regardless of seeds
theres some rng things that give tiny amounts of em
no u do not need unstarred anything for cooking aslong as poeple click the allow starred button(incase ur stuck on this)

[young plume]

i know that stuff with cooking.. no worries about that.. I mean with request for example .. a friend asks for Blueberries but i cant fullfill it, cuz you cant send them starred ones 😉 even with the hot pepper stuff 🙂

[floral talon]

practically u used up the last unstarred blueberrys and apples ul ever get

the devs did mention they wanted to change the requets systema bit in the future cuz of this issue

[young plume]

ok thank you for the answers 🙂 hopefully they will change that system as well 🙂

[floral talon]

i mean u can like get some unstarred apple or blueberry evbery hundred or so zeki coins / rummage piles but thats practically not an option

mh i just remembered u can absolutely overpay in gardening medals to get em i forgot so pricy

[midnight lily]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-NNNNNNNNN-RBkPPCoBtTCBt-TBkRBtCoTBtBkP-NNNNNNNNN-RBkPPCoBtTCBt-TBkRBtCoTBtBkP-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN

is that good setup for not big farm?

[midnight lily]

Iv used yours idea

[floral talon]

bbit low on harvest boost and if ur soils amounts are tiny u probs want more quality up as well cuz ur probably low lv and if not low lv u dont want the cotton at all

[midnight lily]

Im lvl 6 gardening

[floral talon]

u did pretty ok for anewby dw

[midnight lily]

any advices what to change here?

[floral talon]

i think u shoudl ditch weedblock for the time being so u can buff the beans wiht harvest boost

[midnight lily]

No idea what you just said tbf

[floral talon]

ditch the bokchoi and carrot for example and place something like corn/wheat/rice to have mroe harvest boost buf giving plants

[midnight lily]

ohh

thank you

[floral talon]

this is something what i would do of course u can swap same buff plants aslong as they keep a buddy plant

only the corner cabbage dont got quality up and hte cotton but cototn doesnt need quality up anyways as its only use is to get turned into fabric or that one furniture item u need cotton to make

[midnight lily]

Uuu that's also look cool

[floral talon]

tnx i also make layouts for EVERYONE

ok almost everryone some poeple have really nonsensical requests

[midnight lily]

hahaha legend

[floral talon]

but dont let me taker ur joy of making ur own layouts from ya

[midnight lily]

Imma try but first i need some tips

[floral talon]

lets start with what does each buff even do
also dont sweat to much on minmaxed garden profits (the returns are very diminishing and tryharding ur better of joining some secret money party that im not yet gonna bother ya with)
most important one water retain cuz watering is alot of work
weedblock is more for poeple who got ocd and want their crops to always be in sync o rlater in the game when ur lazy
quyality up buffs the chances alot of the produce being starred but ur lv also affects this so at 25 its completely useless but before then its good
harvest boost +50% produce for the same work yey

this means for u as a low lv despite every buff beign possible XD (aside from speedygrow that one is bugged anyways)
harvest boost
quality up(especially on harvestboosted stuff)
water retain cuz ur watering can is bad

[midnight lily]

Thansk bro damn thats a lot of things to look for

[floral talon]

basically im like im gonna add water retain and harvest boost and quality up ok
then which water retain plants do oi like the most some are more coins per growthtick but more work to proces others more harvest looking at u tomatoes(thats more work) cabbage is low money but little work so i personally love that one the most

but u need 2 water retain so i ad potato as thats les work then tomatoe but u could cabbage tomatoe instead or potato tomato

[olive quest]

Is it a good idea to place harvest boost fertilizer while an apple tree is growing? I've seen it consumes 9 fertilizer each growth tick, but you get no apples until the last ticks, when the tree is fully grown...

[floral talon]

Wait u might be on to something

5x9x12 540coins in hb boost fert

[olive quest]

...what do you mean...?

[unkempt sinew]

Question, I am at a point where I'm primarily getting starred crops and almost no non-stars.

This is largely fine but it does mean I can't gift any (most quests seem the accept the starred version)

Is there ways to reduce quality? 😂

https://tenor.com/view/tracoon-tracoon-too-rich-tracoon-suffering-from-success-gif-1458791985615496704

[olive quest]

I don't know the way to reduce quality (if it exists), so from lvl25 you'll be suffering from successs.

[unkempt sinew]

Thank you XD I'll just be generous with other items

[floral talon]

Nope unstarred seeds but 25all star seeds starred produce only
38 unstarred seeds starred produce only

[clever pewter]

Best farm for blueberries
?

[stray dawn]

Does the plants not grow anymore while I’m off the game? I came back and it was still watered, how before I would come b and need to water it. I didn’t use any fertiliser

[floral talon]

Il check later

[supple stone]

They grow one in-game day's worth after you log off, no more

[floral talon]

how many blueberrys do you need?

[fickle bobcat]

i could not care less about weed and water retention, I am trying to min max my tomatoes and my apples. Thoughts? I might swap tyhe blueberries with more beans, idk.

[floral talon]

are u lv 10 or do u need those cottons

[fickle bobcat]

I am level 12 gardening. I'm using the cotton to ensure the apple trees are giving quality boost. Should I replace them with something?

[floral talon]

its all good at higher lvs u dont need quality up anymore but u still do dont forget to fill in the fertilisers

i would personally ditch the weedblock plants at your lv

get more water retain >:D an du need hte pluck a ton of weeds achievment still

[fickle bobcat]

But doesn't increased quality = increased profits?

Problem is with the spicy on both sides, both trees need just one more +quality boost for it so I need to use something

[floral talon]

Yeay thats useful i said ditch weedblock not quality up

[fickle bobcat]

You were just asking if I needed the cotton and then mentioned you don't need quality up at higher levels so I'm a little confused

[floral talon]

12is low u can ditch cotton at 25

man i really should make a ez to understand explanation card for quality up and star chance at some point

[fickle bobcat]

I see. What makes it better to ditch them at 25?

[floral talon]

u statr with 25% star chance star seeds up that to 50%
every gardening lv gives +2 % so at lv25 ur starred seeds are always starred produce basically the coton buff does 0 at that point

[fickle bobcat]

Makes sense ty

[verbal olive]

Hi guys, I'm new to this channel; wondering if knapweed is actually a problem, besides having to pick it. Like, does it reduce harvest numbers or slow down growing time? I tried searching before asking but all I saw were a bunch of posts about time travel and 9 weed blocks, which didn't make sense to me.

[floral talon]

there a bug when u got to much 9knapweed the game cant save ur crops growing
like it wont save that it grown unles u interact with it

[royal quail]

Question for veteran gardeners.

Say I grow a bunch of tomatoes and I want to put them into the preserve jars for canning to sell them all for money...

Whats the ratio of my crop that I preserve vs turn back into seeds? Goal is to be sustainable so I dont run out of tomato seeds and Im left scrambling

[floral talon]

with or without harvestbboost?

[royal quail]

Lets say with

[floral talon]

one every 42 tomatoes needs s to be seeded

but just check before jarring if u need more seeds then its fine without ratios

[royal quail]

So for easy math I harvest 40 tomatoes. Turn 38-39 back into seeds and the remaining gets jarred then sold?

[floral talon]

no u harvest 42 and seed 1 41; get jarred

[royal quail]

Oh flip so flip what I said 😂

[floral talon]

nvm i messedup 4 out of 46 get seeded

[royal quail]

So save 4 tomatoes for seeds then turn the other 42 into preserves for money

[floral talon]

yeay kinda

[royal quail]

More or less. 😂

Thank you!

[floral talon]

but u can be simpler if u know what urtt gonna plant dump that amount in or something
wait what was the seed to tomatoe ratio again in the seeder anyways with 4 plants u keep 42 for jar the resti sfor seeds

[royal quail]

What else should I plant with the tomatoes?

[floral talon]

potatoes seeds only

[royal quail]

So for the 9 plots, do a checkboard layout of tomatoes and potatoes?

[floral talon]

and some other croips u like definitly something harvestboosting

this is probably what U want

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-PRPTWTPRP-PRPTWTPRP-PRPTWTPRP-PRPTWTPRP-PRPTWTPRP-PRPTWTPRP-PRPTWTPRP-PRPTWTPRP-PRPTWTPRP_GtL25Cr0.PS15-TP5-RS7-WS3

[royal quail]

Youre the GOAT

Thank you!!

[floral talon]

Yw

[warm wren]

Hiya, newbie here. Could someone explain the seed vs whole item valuation to me?
I don't understand why it's common practice to sell the seeds rather than just the fruit/veg itself when they're worth more? I know preserves are an option too, but I just want to focus on this aspect of gardening for now.

Specifically, I keep seeing people say to sell bokchoy seeds but the value for 1 seed packet is half the value of the veg itself. Did the prices of these get changed or am I missing something?
Bokchoy Seed: 15
Bokchoy: 30
Kimchi: 40

[hollow marsh]

for example you get four seeds for every potato! so one star quality potato sells for 67 gold, but four star quality seeds sell for 30 gold each, which is 120 gold total

[thin remnant]

hi I see there are a ton of layouts in this channel. can anyone recommend a really good one for beans?

[floral talon]

Depends on ur needs

[thin remnant]

hmm I like to participate in cake parties, maybe some of those maws parties later on

[floral talon]

Maws partys need rice cake depends on ur role

[thin remnant]

okay then lets say I just need a lot of beans and rice and maybe one each of the other main ingredients. tomatoes, potatoes, onion, corn, carrot. that about cover it?

not sure if that's a good idea or not, I haven't really dove into gardening yet

[floral talon]

Lets see if i can find the layout u need

[thin remnant]

tysm!

[floral talon]

This one i think is good for ya

@thin remnant

[thin remnant]

thanks! should I replace the blueberries with beans?

[floral talon]

Yup

The apples are to make it less work and so u can do cake roles and so u can make honeylures as those take apples

[thin remnant]

perfect! thanks so much!!

[thin remnant]

tip: I'm probably not the first to mention this but if you pick up your hoe after each swipe, you can till an entire square in one swipe and move faster

[floral talon]

I plant apples so i almost never have to retil cuz i dont get so many growthticks

[worn pivot]

Hi all - any suggestions for an AFK garden that grows blueberries? I only want it to self water/weed so I don't have to check on it except for harvest. Thank you

found an apple/blueberry garden in here that weeds/waters the fruits - thank you all for your hard work + willingness to share these garden layouts!

[olive quest]

Does anyone know?

I feel like the 2x2 crops consume all the 100 fertiliser I give them in like 6h of gameplay, I don't know it it's worthy fertilise them...

[floral talon]

They consume 4 each per growthtick but theres some bug that max fert stacks vanish

[olive quest]

I placed my pumpkin seed and I got the fertilizer back o_O

[floral talon]

Multitilevcrops tend to do that

[serene loom]

I messed up placing my soil plots and have been waiting ages for the tilled tiles to go back to untilled, so that I can move them (for some reason it keeps saying that there's no available space to move the plot while they are tilled).

How long do I have to wait for them to go untilled? I have tried planting loads of carrots to make them untilled after harvesting, and a couple days for them unplanted to revert back. Having no luck!

[floral talon]

48 irl hours AND not having aplant on it after the time

[serene loom]

yeah :( is it just random chance for a harvest to untill the tile?

[floral talon]

no 48 irl hours

also u cant move asoil if it has anything on it includin gsometimes invisible fertiliser

[serene loom]

invisible fertiliser might be messing me up yknow

[floral talon]

plant something ont he soil u cant pickup
place a fert down ur not gonna use anywyas i use quality up fert since i wont plant platns that give that buff anyways one growhttick later tis gone but u do have to wait till untilling

[trail nova]

I have been struggling getting non stared veggies from my garden. I’ve heard after a certain gardening level it mostly only gives u stared items, however i need them for reg cooking, gifts, and other items. I’m not going to drop a stack of gold for veggies when i should be able to grow them with ease. Also i struggle foregoing other ingredients let alone stared ones to make items. I make sure to use correct seeds, not place any quality boosting plants or fertilizer, and I’m at the point where it’s genuinely starting to hinder my game… any advice would be so helpful 😅✨

[floral talon]

u do not need it for cooking
no u cant get em after a certain lv

[compact kettle]

i know it's no where near the most efficient garden in the world by any means but i finally found a garden set up i'm ACTUALLY happy with and it's semi low maintenance, no fertilizer

[compact kettle]

after 25 gardening star qual is 100% even from normal seeds

[floral talon]

let us know if u need one thats also weedblock on the blueberrys or water retain weedblock on everyhting(htough that one takes a little bit of zekis fertiliser)

still quiet decent

u also messed up the bottom right corner lmao

[clear kindle]

i was going to offer it as well (i have the layout pulled up, just don't want to step on toes if they need more rice for things)

[floral talon]

yeay i mean if someone wants to be 5 % objectively less efficient but like it more im happy for em

u honestly dont wanna know what kind of monstrosity i run XD

its an afk 5 apple 1 blueberry thing

[astral ledge]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-BBTBBBkBkTCr-PCoPOBkOCbTW-TSSBkSSCrTBk-OCbWRTBkOCbC-AAAAAAAAA-CCbOBkTRWCbO-BkTCrBtBtBkBtBtT-WTCbOBkOPCoP-CrTBkBkPmPmTPmPm
Hey guys! This is my current garden layout (found it on this group a while ago) and i would like something similar but with more rice. What i like about this is that it has all the plants, and doesnt need watering. It also doesn't grow weeds but i dont really care about that. Does anyone have something similar but with more rice please? I want to have more rice to be able to join sushi and sashimi parties

[raw stirrup]

I think - i am satisfied with this

[urban wasp]

can you grow ginger, garlic, and the green onion or can you only forage for it?

[raw stirrup]

only forage

[urban wasp]

devastating 💔 thank you

[floral talon]

Hey i got one for u

U can swap alot of corn for rice on this one

I assume U wanted an everything layout

[serene loom]

is anyone having this problem with their gardening plots? I haven't been able to move them for about 2 irl weeks because apparently something is in the way!
Also, I haven't fertilised any of my plots for about the same amount of time, but ALL off my crops are coming out gold starred. Which is nice for money but I really need normal tier crops for my animals lol. Any ideas why it's bugged like that?

Okay so Mortis helped me out - it's the Silverwing blocking all the plots for some reason!

But I am still baffled about the phantom fertiliser and gold stars

[floral talon]

U dont need normal tier crops for animals just overfeed em then on starred jarred stuff

[floral talon]

Phantom fert is easily fixable but takes a while to untill
Are u trying to pick up the soil to move to another plot or to just move it on the same plot

[serene loom]

half my animals have sensitive stomach debuff so I save the non starred for them

[serene loom]

ive tried moving them for now, hopefully its reset them

[floral talon]

Oof bad animals bad but i understand its hard to retrait em

[serene loom]

im actually trying to reroll the rest for needy so i can get hardworking legendary lol

[floral talon]

Ah so it wil eventually solve itself nice

[serene loom]

that's the hope!

[ember lake]

Hey, so I've got a pretty basic understanding of gardening so I fully accept that it could just be user error, but shouldn't my fertilizer last more than one in-game day? Around half of my garden just eats the fertilizer every time, but it sticks around for a good while on the other half. Is it something to do with the placement of my crops or a weird bug?

[floral talon]

Plants give buf to if buf from plant not use the fert

[ember lake]

Ah okay, so if the plant doesn't have that buff then I'll have to replace that fertilizer every day?

[floral talon]

Or u just place down more then one after seeding a cabbage grows 6 ticks so harvest boost apply 6 at a time for example

Or dump down 90 if u repeat the layout alot

[ember lake]

Oh okay, I didn't know you could place more than one. Thank you! And yeah, I stick with pretty much the same layout. I'm not really growing for max profit or anything, so I mostly have things that bloom more than once or things I use a lot. This is the basic layout that I've got. Apples for my ranch animals, beans for canning for focus, cotton for fabric, and then the rest I just sell.

[floral talon]

uhm why do u only have 6 soils?

[ember lake]

Anything bigger just seems like too much to handle and it doesn't look as nice and neat on my plot

If you think 6 is bad, wait until you hear that I spent the first year of the game with only 4 😂 the other 2 are a new addition

[floral talon]

i mean ur at least doing it

maybe a afk layout is more for u so u can tend to it when u feel up to it

[ember lake]

Huh, I'll definitely look into it. Thanks for your help and feedback!

[astral ledge]

thank you so much! i would like something that has tomatoes, onions and wheat as well though, do you think there is any way i could add them in this layout or should i look for another one?

[floral talon]

yeay substitution u can replace one of hte weedblock crops completely with onions if u want to
many configurations of the corn rice u can turn into lots of corn plus some wheat
cabbages can also be tomatoes
i just picked the crops for it i did the make most insync harvests

[astral ledge]

thank youu!!

[clever pewter]

What do these doo.. do i get stuff from them???

[acoustic mural]

do you have to set these right beside each other?

[vague horizon]

They're decor versions of the crops. You don't get harvestable crops for them but if you wanted to build a fake garden on your plot for decor then you can (since we are currently limited to just the 9 dirt squares)

[untold prawn]

Does anyone have suggestions for a good money making garden layout?

[jovial raptor]

I just harvested 96 apples from 4 trees in one shot.... it seems high to me.. Is that common?

Looked it up, yes it is!

[merry spear]

Is there a way to untill soil or do I have to wait 48 hours (in game?) for it to return to normal ans pick it up

[floral talon]

u gotto wait make sure no fertiliser is left on it though cuz otherwise u cannot move it from plot to plot

[merry spear]

Ok good it’s just plain tilled no seeds or fertiliser

[brazen willow]

Whats the best thing(s) to put in preserves?

[inner pecan]

they're decor recipes

[floral talon]

everyhting thats not bokchoi or potato beans
also not pumpkin but thats cuz u shouldnt proces em at all as they are suhc low money per tile per growhttick only grow for cooking use

[brazen willow]

Thank you

[feral cedar]

Is there a trick to untilling the plots?
I know right click digs up crops

But even after digging it up, the soil is still tilled so it won't let me pick it up to move to a different lot

[clear kindle]

they revert after 48 irl hours, with or without crops on them. just have to wait them out

[floral talon]

Make sure theres no fertiliser or invisible fertiliser if u wanna pick it up

[feral cedar]

Invisible fertilizer is a thing?

Its been a while since Ive used any fertilizer, so I should be fine there

[floral talon]

if u got fer ton a tile and it untils it oftens stays but s invisible after tilling till u plant somethign especially on larger plants

[reef aurora]

Hello everyone, can someone help to explain flowers event in Kilima?
Specifically when does it count as complete event and when it rewards the recipe

I did 6 times all the flowers solo and haven't got a single recipe
Are they just that rare?

[floral talon]

yeay they are quiet rare

[floral talon]

u get a chance per foragable plucked from the bloom to get recipes the last reciep is rarer then the first cuz at first u get like a roll per recipe ur missing

[reef aurora]

Interesting, alright thanks, I guess I just have to keep trying

[floral talon]

when i did it there where more poeple watering em and calling out where they were i could do one server hop to a friend do that one up to 6 timnes per bloom spawn to speed things up not sure how much u could copy that but if u can it will help ALOT

[reef aurora]

I can do around 4-5 per ingame day

[floral talon]

theni gues u also know hte best way to find one if noone calls it out

[reef aurora]

Yeah, checked the spawns on wiki, thanks for explaining how it works of course

[echo lodge]

What's the best item/food to use to make HarvestBoost fertilizer? As in, what will yield the most fertilizer?

[floral talon]

Grill ur useless fishies then put the grilled fish in

[severe flower]

Guys
How do I make vegetables non-starred?
I am so annoyed

[floral talon]

unstarred seeds cannot make unstarred crop passed lv38
starred seeds passed 25

u do not need unstarred veggies outside of gifting or when poepel forget the allow starred checkbox

[severe flower]

Oh no wonder
I am level 36

All I can is buy them i guess

[floral talon]

yeay it scales per level wiht like a base 25% at lv0

so ur almost never getting any and if u were to use unstarred now u get like 3% chance at unstarred per produce

[floral talon]

or u can use starred veggies

[severe flower]

Actually I forgot I can put non-starred in lockbox

[floral talon]

checkbox ALLOW starred when cooking
so i assume u ment lockbox starred rarer foragables

if u allow starred and run out of starred it will allow u to select unstarred whatever

[royal quail]

Can someone explain to me how a Bok Choy seed sells for less that a fully grown one but everything online says the $$ is in selling the seeds and not the veggie/kimchi?

I assume its quantity over quality? 1 plant for 4 seeds

Oh wait I answered my own question 😂

One Bok Choy is 45 gold but its 4 seeds are 22.

So that one plant can make 88 gold. Okay! Nevermind. Thank you!

[trim leaf]

Anyone having troubles with their soils ? I wanted it to untilled itself, so I planted rapid crops but when I collected them, my soil stayed tilled... (The 3x3 square I'm trying to pick up shouldn't have fertilizer either)

[floral talon]

Ur the third person this month to make such a post xd if it makes u feel better

[royal quail]

A little, yeah 😂

Outside of cooking (9), all my other skills are past 10, so now begins the loop of being rich

So if anyone has a solid plot layout for "Bean Burger" garden (onions, tomatos, batterfly beans, wheat) Im all ears

[royal quail]

Here we go

[floral talon]

something like this?

[royal quail]

Dang! What the heck? How do you add 2 additional crops and end up with more yield across the board? 😭

I tweaked it

I dont mind watering the plants. Its fun hearing all of them go "buh ding" at the same time with the exquisite water can 😂

[floral talon]

now it shows everything starred so its easier to compare

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-Cb.HTBtTWBtBtBtW.Y-BtOBtBtTBtOCb.HO-BtTCb.HBtWTW.YBtBt-BtBtOOTCbBtBtO-WTWRORWTW-OBtBtCbTOOBtBt-BtBtW.YTWBtCb.HTBt-OCb.HOBtTBtBtOBt-W.YBtBtBtWTBtTCb.H_GtL25 link so u can easily fiddle with it urself

[royal quail]

Ooooh I didnt know your gardening level determined the guarantee of a starred crop!

Level 25 is 100% but my level 10 is 70%

[gritty drum]

does anyone have a beginner gardening guide? im new and only have 4 plots

[scarlet steppe]

Is there in game etiquette on going to other players homes and weeding and watering their garden? Idk why I love doing this but I don’t want to overstep my boundaries.

[severe flower]

Yes you should ask before going to their plot and doing stuff.
But if it's your close friend you can go without asking 🤣

[floral talon]

though it casues them 0 harm if u do (like for real theres no reason for htem not to want u to unles they do some weedscience or something but we already know the answers)
some poeple dont like it most do though

[royal quail]

Personally, dont pick my weeds. Thems money. It may only be 1 gold but hey! Enough of them.... thats lots of gold over time 😂

[rich pilot]

Anyone with advice on how to get bell peppers (not star ones)?
Before they appeared in the cat shop, but now it’s impossible to get them (not appearing in any shop, nor car not farmer one) and all I can crop are star ones. So rn I can only make petitions for it (I’m feeling greedy)

[floral talon]

Some random once every hundred rummage piles/zekicoins

[rich pilot]

The pain in that answer…🥲

Also, thank you

[floral talon]

If ur gonna feedback plz feedback for making starred stuff giftable and em changing the cooking system into the allow starred being default

[hidden tendon]

I can use multiple HarvestBoost Fertilizer on the same crop, does that make a difference or am I wasting fertilizer?

[rich pilot]

I've already make a suggestion and a feedback with that idea 😅

[rich pilot]

You can... it's supposed to stack there so you don't need to apply it often. Once done, pressing "G" should tell you the amount of "stacked fertilizer" it has with a number next the title

[floral talon]

Ur doing ur part

[rich pilot]

Slow but steady, we need an improvement in that field 😅

[sour stirrup]

What is the best food for focus points? Boy Choy? Want something to feed myself and my animals?

[slender barn]

how often do we need to use fertilizer?

and emm, im maybe accidentally buying too much gardening plot, i have 9 now, what should i plant

[slender barn]

and what is growth thick in the guide?

[floral talon]

If not wanting to cook jar stuff for the animals

[floral talon]

0600 when online one time after is when the crops grow

[lofty marsh]

I'm never going to need 325 pumpkins, right? I should just sell some of these? 😅

One stack of 30 starred pumpkins is almost 4000 gold

[outer condor]

Anyone have a side by side photo or doc of each plant base price + starred price + jam price + seed price ? been trying to find but I cannot

[floral talon]

Unles u do pumpkin role alot in cooking partys

[floral talon]

Pumpkins are not a moneycrop but if u do need yo sell jar first

[lofty marsh]

I don't do cooking parties

[floral talon]

Then u dont need many pumpkins

[alpine yarrow]

Check pinned - good guides there

[night bronze]

Can I ask for some advice on a garden layout please 🙏. Basically I want to max profit and I like apple's and blueberries while also having some cotton as I seem to run out a lot. This is the best I have come up with on my own. I'm not too fussed about weeding, or watering really as long as I am racking in cash.

[floral talon]

What an interesting layout
Btw growing other crops processing those then buying fabric is often more economical then growing cotton
Unles ur sub lv25 cuz star chance

[small sleet]

^^ Was about to mention, that growing cotton yourself is basically money stealing. It’s way more profitable to just buy the fabric from tish when needed and use the plot spaces for something else! :)

[floral talon]

It does save ALOT on crafter time usage

[small sleet]

def

[night bronze]

Hmm I never thought of that. Is there something else I could put in place of the cotton to help here and bring profit up?

[small sleet]

I personally like growing rice for cooking parties (sashimi etc is a moneeyyyyy grower!) but if you dont like cooking parties i’ll let the smarter gardeners answer that question

[night bronze]

Haha thanks, I've never done parties in general, I hate typing on the switch to speak 😂. I could possibly pick another quality up crop, I'm not sure how beneficial that buff is though.

[shadow ingot]

Hey folks, I have tried but I am so bad at this layout thing. Anyone that can help me get a bit of everything with heavy focus on rice? Ideally it has weed prevention and water retention

[floral talon]

Whats ur gardening lv?
Seeding bokchoi potatoes biggest money per tile per growthtick but slow on crafters

[night bronze]

I'm 31 in Gardening just now

[floral talon]

With starred seeds quality up doesnt exist to u

But i admit growing those white fluffballs is fun

[night bronze]

Oh. So I can forget about that buff then? Just plant something purely for money? I'm imagining my apples and blueberries will take up my jam machines so should I maybe go with something that doesn't need them to sell?

[floral talon]

Yes forget quality up

Processing is always more moneys

[night bronze]

I could do more tomatoes and turn into seeds to sell maybe?

Or maybe just invest in more crafters 😂

[floral talon]

Almost every crop is better of jarred though

[night bronze]

Okay more crafters it is then. Is there ones that have clear better profit or much the same?

[floral talon]

Yeay but they take way more crafter time and usually more effort
Bokchoi potato to seeds

If u count effort its all the same

[night bronze]

Okay thanks. I'll invest a little in some more stuff to process. That's been really helpful thank you.

[floral talon]

Your welcome

[sour stirrup]

Is there a faster way to apply fertilizer than just spam clicking?

[slender barn]

lv 3 gardening here

any tips?

using this rn

been using this rn

[floral talon]

Using a autoclicker to spamclick

[floral talon]

So many be back at pc soon easier to type

[floral talon]

for lwoer levels u want water retain, harvestboost AND quality up
cotton doesnt need quality up itself though since u loom it anyways
u can 100% all the bufs i mentioned

lumpa do u need a layout or do u wanna make one urself
if u wanna know how some specific mechanic works feel free to ask here

[slender barn]

what do you think about this?

[slender barn]

and what is loom

[floral talon]

its the leather and fabric maker

[floral talon]

could be better

[slender barn]

then maybe i need a layout xD

[floral talon]

u can subtiture some plants for others though but i like these as they are most in sync harvests

[snow light]

can someone help me understand why this piece of rice isn't getting water retain ? i've used this layout for a while and haven't changed it but since a few days this one isn't getting it

this is the ONLY plant without water retain, everything else is fine

[floral talon]

its neightbours are apple bokchoi wheat and blueberry so weedblock and harvest boost
must not have water retain fert on it

[snow light]

oh i see now ! should be a potato where the bok choy is, i have no idea how it got swapped

[floral talon]

another mystery solved in this episode of gardening detective

[snow light]

thank you !

[slate kelp]

i've share a layout low work good rent more upstair

[primal prawn]

i’ve been using a lot of harvestboost fertilizer and now my crops are 90% starred even if i don’t put fertilizer on them, is that a bad thing? is there a way to change that or is it honestly a good thing?

[floral talon]

-waits patiently on sylvas answer

[clear kindle]

so harvest boost only increases the amount of crops you get at harvest and has nothing to do with crops being starred or not (that's quality up fert) the chances of getting star crops goes up with your gardening level (around 20-25 you'll start getting more star crops from star seeds with 25 guaranteeing star crops , while level 38 will net you nothing but star crops even from non-star seeds). as far as if it's a "bad thing"? not really, the only problems arises from the fact that you can't gift star crops to other players that may need them and if you do cooking parties if the starter forgets to hit the "use star quality" button then the recipe is a waste

[primal prawn]

oooh that makes a lot of sense. tyty!!!!

[floral talon]

sylva saves the day

[glad star]

Yes, that's right, I've noticed that too. I think they should change that. The same goes for cooking, even with non-star ingredients, I only get star dishes

[floral talon]

wait why would u need unstarred dishes ?_? to gift to other poeple?

[glad star]

I help new people in the game and when they come to my house to cook, they also get the star dishes instead of the non-star dishes and for some assignments you need the non-star dishes

[floral talon]

as in daily assignments u mean some do not trigger completed unles unstarred? u sure learn something new every day

[slender barn]

lv 5 rn, is this still good? or there the better one?

[clear kindle]

at that low of a level, this is a great beginners layout. since you probably don't have an upgraded backpack yet, you probably need to go back to your plot often and can time it for the weeds to spawn to pick them from harming your garden (this one is fully water/harvest boosted with minimum fertilizer so you don't need to worry about watering it) the weeds are also a bit of extra gold in the beginning as well. as your level grows, this layout will eventually become obsolete as you won't need the cotton (quality up boost) after reaching around level 20. but by that time you should be able to determine what your play style is and then decide on what kind of garden that you want to continue with (money layout, cooking layout, afk layout, or a bit of everything layout) the crops themselves are all harvest ready around the same time which makes it easier to process them as well.

[slender barn]

what money layout and etc?

[clear kindle]

the layouts that i mentioned are aimed more for mid-late game as you need to have access to all of your crafting licenses in order to process them fully. money layouts (mostly focusing on bok choy) are extremely time consuming as they need to be babysat constantly and need as many crafting slots as possible. cooking layouts tend to focus on particular cooking parties (going to other player's places and cooking the same dish such as cakes or similar for a while) which depending on which party you are interested in would dictate what crops you grow (cake parties for example would want either blueberries (if starting) or apples (if making the filling)), but either way the cooking parties will only want star quality crops to increase the price of the dish. afk layouts are for lazy people (like myself) where we can set it and forget it to do other things in the game (quests, hunting, fishing, etc.) these usually focus on crops like apples, beans and blueberries and those are the only crops that are harvested. everything crops are what they say on the tin. they have a bit of all of the crops in case the player wants to do multiple cooking items they always have a supply of the crop

[slender barn]

icic

thank you so much

[slender barn]

btw so each fertilizer used on cotton is five?

[snow light]

rice maxxing

for now keeping it so i at least have one of each plant but if needs be i can swap others for more rice

sashimi parties are gonna love me

[crude trench]

same xD I got like 400 rice just saved up for the parties xDDDDD

[snow light]

i love making sashimi, i haven't had the courage to join a party yet but maybe soon

[floral talon]

Yeay cuz cotton got 5 growthstages

[slender barn]

i see, thanks

[floral talon]

I mean if u got a layout where u put waterretain/weedblock on cotton 4 is good dince u dont care if it gets weed and unwatered after is done growing

[slender barn]

im planning to use aa minimum as possible fertilizer for a moment

not enough gold xD

[slender barn]

emm do i just sell the crops in here raw?

[floral talon]

No but inptobs made this when the website was missing the proces thing
Cotton fabric self use
Potatos seeds rest jar
Rice seeds

[slender barn]

cotton better sees too right?

i dont have jar yet

[plush remnant]

@slender barn This is the layout that I was using

It's good to start with, very low maintenance, costs less to buy the seeds from Zeki to replant it than you earn selling the product. You can swap out Rice for Wheat if you need that for cooking. Once you get Seed Makers and Preserves jars going, you can turn the Rice/Bok Choy/Potatos into seeds because it's a 1:4 plant to seed ratio, and the Tomatos/Corn/Onions can get turned into Jam and it'll double (give or take) what you earn from selling the unprocessed crops

and if you decide to juggle the seed makers to keep stock of star quality seeds for all of these, you earn even more

[floral talon]

no u loom it into fabric to craft allt he stuff u gotto craft

[slender barn]

Stuff like?

[floral talon]

jar makers
some quests
decor(including hte decor u need for quests

[slender barn]

icic

I'll keep them for now then

[slender barn]

btw about the potato is that mean seed first then jar or is it an option between the two? and what about the corn and napa cabbage

[slender barn]

i see, nice tips

[floral talon]

ok il clarify what to turn stuff into
bokchoi potato beans seeds
other u can jar, jar it
cotton fabric self use
pumpkins only grow for cooking but jar if u somehow got to many
rice wheat can only be turned into seeds

[slender barn]

i see, so I'll consider it a mid game tips and keep that in mind. Now ehat to turn into if I'm not yet unlocked my jar

[floral talon]

cotton fabric
everything else seeds (and if u dont need the money directly dont sell some of the seeds to sow later)

[slender barn]

everything need money in the beginning TT, especially the crafter certificate, hella expensive, curse you eshe!

[floral talon]

yeay but u need some seeds to resow anyways
like at least keep enuf to not have to buy from zeki and at ur lv use star seeds

well happy farming lumpa

[slender barn]

thanks, you too, may the Phoenix and dragon bless you a bountiful harvest xD

[brisk kraken]

@floral talon Here's my work in progress...
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-Bt.WBt.WR.WBt.WBt.WCb.YR.WCb.YR.H-Bt.WBt.WCb.YBt.WBt.WR.WCb.YR.WCb.Y-R.WBt.WBt.WCb.YBt.WBt.WR.HCb.YR.W-Bt.WBt.WT.YBt.WBt.WR.WT.YR.WT.Y-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-T.YBt.WBt.WR.WBt.WBt.WT.YR.WT.Y-Bt.WBt.WR.WBt.WBt.WCb.YR.WCb.YR.H-Bt.WBt.WCb.YBt.WBt.WR.WCb.YR.WCb.Y-R.WBt.WBt.WCb.YBt.WBt.WR.HCb.YR.W

I'm not happy about having to reduce my apple trees down to 1 from 5, but I'm using canned beans as my focus food; same amount of focus as apple jam, but it's half the price! Bring on the profit! 😄

I will switch out a few of the beans for blueberries on a rotating schedule. My previous layout only needed Zeki's weed-block, which was about 1k per full cycle, as I had to douse everything with it. On the work-in-progress, I still need to use the weed-block, but not as much, so there's that :).

I'm jamming everything except the rice. If I switch out the cabbage for potatoes, I'll seed them.

My reasoning for this setup is 2 fold:

1, to get a lot of rice for Congee to feed the worms with and for sushi parties and the second reason is purely monetary 🙂

This setup may be more profitable than my previous 5 apple/ 4 blueberry/potato and tomato one...time will tell.

Any and all constructive input is very welcome. I struggled to make this, trying all sorts of ways to keep at least 3 apple trees, but I just couldn't do it. Thanks in advance for your help 🙂

[floral talon]

mh seems like a very high fert usage
when comparing eating canned beans vs apple jam canned beans are actually more expensive then their pricetag says cuz ur missing oppurtunity cost of turning me into seeds since they are more money as seeds (duh is a stickler for proper accounting)

u realised all on ur own u can put benas in a layouiit and occasionally farm blueberrys in the same spot nice ur smart

ur righ ton rice being a must if u do t hose money partys $_$
turning em into congee for worms first time i hear someone do that
i recommend worming ur exces meats eggs milk shrooms foragables first and then some exces grilled fish if ur gonna campfire but hey maybe ur onto something

mh can i give u an example of how to place 2x2s into a layout for wantingf lots of hte 2x2s?

[onyx forge]

Dose any one have a layout that can give you lots of money?

[floral talon]

sure but those always come with trade offs in effort and crafter time what would u specifically need?

[onyx forge]

Probably a decent middleground were I can log in every day and farm it all

Or like every other day

[floral talon]

u coudl change wheat into corn and tomatoe into cabbage and everyhting will sync nicely in harvest reseed times

[slender barn]

lv 8 now, unlocked the jar. What do you guys think? Am i ready to move on to a more advanced crop pattern? please recommend a few if yes xD

[floral talon]

?_? u use the exact same but proces alot of stuff into jars instead of seeds thats the difference

and now ur gonna use hte cotton to make fabric to make MORE jars 😄 crafter limited is 30 btw if u got all licenses

[slender barn]

Should i buy more license?

only got 11 crafter rn

five seed, 3 glowworm, 1crafting station,1 smelter, 1 loom and 1 saw

[floral talon]

as soon as u wont be blocked by lack of recipes with ur gameplay /stuff u use almost immedietly yes
more crafter licenses is super useufull

[slender barn]

its hella expensive damn, only got 4k in hand rn

[floral talon]

get all the ingot and toolr ecipes first for sure so u dont have to wait on getting recipe

[slender barn]

alrd fine tool all of them

ingot got till silver, not yet gold cuz i dont think I'll be using it soon, wdy think?

[floral talon]

way to go lumpa its up to u idk either when exactly u start needing it

bag sizes is also super important

[slender barn]

so napa cabbage get me 60g/each and napa kimchi also 60, where's the profit lmao

[floral talon]

uhm u probs misread something

think ur comparing starred bokchoi kimchi with unstarerd cabbage kjiomchi or osmtehing

[floral talon]

how about this?
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-Cb.WP.WBt.WP.WR.WBt.WBt.WBt.WR.W-Bt.WR.WBt.WBt.WP.WBt.WR.WCb.WR.W-Bt.WP.WCb.WBt.WR.WP.WR.WBt.WBt.W-Bt.WBt.WP.WR.WP.WCb.WBt.WBt.WP.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-P.WBt.WBt.WCb.WP.WR.WP.WBt.WBt.W-Bt.WBt.WR.WP.WR.WBt.WCb.WP.WBt.W-R.WCb.WR.WBt.WP.WBt.WBt.WR.WBt.W-R.WBt.WBt.WBt.WR.WP.WBt.WP.WCb.W

[slender barn]

ahh

damn fr tyty

[charred pond]

Does anyone know if pink and mixed hydrangeas are currently obtainable?

[floral talon]

Pink idk
Mixed are sometimes rewarded u can get more seeds by requesting em and then if someone gifts fully grown those are received as seeds making the seeds duplicatable since fully growing em gives seeds back

[charred pond]

Tysm!!

[mint sandal]

Mixed is a quest reward only (I don't rememberwhich quest though), also sometimes part of twitch drops or log in rewards

[slender barn]

eh, should i change my cotton then?

[warped valley]

Should I sell the seeds that have stars on them??

[clear kindle]

keep enough to replant, and sell the rest

[floral talon]

Nah u stil need the quality up buff

[slender barn]

there's others crop i thought?

[floral talon]

Pumpkin and spicypeper but 2x2s are real difgicult to make a nice layout with and are for use in cooking and u need like 1 plant of those tonlast u super long unless u do specific cooking party roles but then u grow tons

[slender barn]

ah dang

mb, u thought it the same as cotton xD

btw how often do i need to check my crop? and should i harvest whenever possible or mass harvest them together?

[floral talon]

Up to u if harvest when all done or when one thing is done

Growthticks are at 0600 ingame time and one time after so check when login and after 0600 happened when logging out

[slender barn]

i understand 06.00 in game, but what about one time after?

[slender barn]

what's that about xD

[floral talon]

your crops grow at 0600 ingame time when YOU ARE ONLINE
and ONE TIME AFTER!

[slender barn]

after what brooo, dang it I'm sorryyy😭

[floral talon]

after logging out

its ok i understand the confusion

[slender barn]

ahhh icic, so the progress stop after one more tick after player logged out? am i correct?

[silver lodge]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-PTAPTAPTA-AABAABAAB-BTPBTPBTP-PTAPTAPTA-AABAABAAB-BTPBTPBTP-PTAPTAPTA-AABAABAAR-BTPBTPCbTP

Heyho, I know it's suboptimal, but its easy to remember, easy to setup and covers a few good crops. I don't want to think about what to plant where, so rows make it very simple. If someone has good suggestions, I'm all ears ^^

[clear kindle]

do you harvest everything? or do you just focus on the apples and blueberries?

[silver lodge]

So far I've been harvesting everything, make enough seeds to replant and wing it for the rest, some get turned into Jam, some into seeds

[clear kindle]

ah, was going to say if you just do apples and blues that there's an afk layout where they are fully weed/water/harvest boosted and you could ignore the other crops. but if you're happy with the ease of the replanting with this one since you harvest everything then it's fine

[silver lodge]

Okay, can you just leave potatos and tomatos there fully grown to get the water retain on the other crops?

[clear kindle]

yep, you can leave any crop in the ground and still get the boosts.

[silver lodge]

Woah that's really useful, thank you ^^

[floral talon]

it does cost u getting nothing produced at that tile th ough
and if u have to much weeds nothing grows even when its on the tile su dont use

[clear kindle]

this is the layout i was talking about. you can actually swap the blueberries for beans (as they provide the same boost)

[silver lodge]

That's a really cool layout. I should look more into what you can do ^^

[silver lodge]

Ah okay, sounds like investing in weed prevention really pays off

[floral talon]

having 9 weeds total casues some memory bug so it wont save growing

[silver lodge]

Huh, I'll keep that in mind, thank you 🙂

[clear kindle]

though the layout that i showed does allow all of the water retain plants to have weeds on them without harming the layout. so if you just focus on the apples and blue/beans you don't need to do anything else with the layout

[slender barn]

it is good enough to just focus on that both?

[tired shard]

must admit this is what I plant - for jams and food buffs 🙂

[floral talon]

At least swap beans and peppers places so ur beans get harvestboost

[tired shard]

will do the next round 🙂

[slender barn]

should i change the rice with wheat?

[floral talon]

up to u
wheat is more money per growthtick then corn though if u process both compared

[slender barn]

what is this? the cost? and why compare it to corn instead of rice

[floral talon]

rice ie best and u often need a buddy to buff hte rice itself

[slender barn]

buff? cooking party?

[floral talon]

?_? no u give the harvest boost buff to a plant by using a plant
to get rice to have the buff harvest boost which rice itself hand to its neighbours it needs a buddy like corn or wheat

why are we tlaking about cooking partys ?_?

[slender barn]

idk tbh, confused ahahaha

[floral talon]

it will make more sense each question dont worry about it

[slender barn]

no, i mean the rice and whear give the same buff to it's neighbor buddy right? that's why it's just appears in my mind

but if rice does is better than wheat then I'll stick with it

[floral talon]

yes and a plant cannot give a buff to itself or the exact same type plant
so u cant do rice+rice for example

i mean u could if u use fertiliser but thats more work and ruins the advantage of rice over wheat anyways

[slender barn]

what is rice advantage over wheat?

[floral talon]

wut corn is the same as wheat i never knew that

well nayways this is how i use the layout planner ot compaare stuff for me

[slender barn]

whattt, same in what

[floral talon]

money per growthtick post processing

[slender barn]

ahhh

so we compare thr avg icic

what do you think of this? is this mean after became pickle it better to turn it into worm again?

[floral talon]

man one day i really hsoudl make a full what can u proces stuff into list and how much does it add

[floral talon]

i mean that would take so much crafter time ul quickly run out of crafter time

[slender barn]

hmm, so just stay and sell as pickle?

[floral talon]

yeya sell stuff as pickle and seeds
i mean maybe if u get very few harvest per week in u can do wroming to once u got way more crafters

[slender barn]

need that ahahahah, im sometimes confused with my math myself xD

[floral talon]

like this is why ijust do rules of thumb no thinking smooth brain happy

[slender barn]

what is best i turn into worm btw? rn I'm just using my recess meat

[floral talon]

that and other exces stuff and grilled exces fishes(do select manually u dotn wanna girll ur maws unels its for flex)

[slender barn]

flexing?

[floral talon]

so if u grill ur maws ur either making a mistake or ur doing it for hte bragging rights of having ridicoulously expensive grilled fish

[viral gust]

Somewhat even mix of everything here, anyone want to have a play around to see if they can squeeze more harvest boost out if it? I don't want to drop the harvest boost, quality or water retain on the apples, blueberries, beans, pumpkins or peppers though..

[floral talon]

U need a minmaxed everything?

[viral gust]

I do a lot of cooking which uses a mix of all crops, never need to worry about changing my planting layout if everything is in there

I've spent hours perfecting my layout for efficiency and max gold across a mix of crops and utilising buffs etc

[floral talon]

U dont see many with 2 of each 2x2

U could compare to this
Though its one of each large

[final pawn]

Is there a way to un-till soil?

[floral talon]

Have to wait 48irl hours and not have a plant on it after the 48hours
If pickup make sure no fert on soil

[slender barn]

what do you think should i do? So i jar my cabbage and corn, should i also turn them into seed for the next harvest or just buy unstarred seed from zeki?

and fokus to turn them all to pickle

[hollow marsh]

1 cabbage makes 6 seeds so imo you just need to save a couple at most and then jar the rest! i cannot speak on corn but i do the same as cabbage for the rest of my crops

[floral talon]

zekis prices are an absolute scam make ur own seeds first then jar the excess on most things

[slender barn]

Actually i always do this, just that idk why but i forgot to put one corn into my seed collector and in denial i come here in hope people indeed do buy from that chat xD

guess not

[floral talon]

u gained more knowledge

[slender barn]

btw, can we distannce the garden soil? or it'll break the buff?

[floral talon]

they need to be snapped together or it wont give buffs acros borders

[slender barn]

that's explain it xD, notice why my corn dont get the harvest boost from the rice

is that will like that until next cycle of farm?

or it'll be just fixed in the next tick?

[floral talon]

did u snap em the game might take some time to realise it
and i mean snapped together not just next to each other

if u try to move it u can press move group and hten u see whats connected

[slender barn]

all good

btw do you have a good layout for afk and for stacking up ingredients for cooking?

[severe flower]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/

[floral talon]

Scroll up till first picture

[slender barn]

can i ask? why not onion, tomato, and wheat?

[clear kindle]

duhscape likes the quick growing crops (the ones in the layout usually grow within 3-4 hours of playing, while the crops you mention take longer. you can always swap out same buff crops for each other though

[royal quail]

Okay so fertilizer... when is it the best time to apply it? At the beginning? The end right before I pluck the crop?

Cause I when I place it down at the start, Ill see the plant gets a buff then a Palia day later, the fertilizer is gone and the plant has no buff but its not finished growing

[clear kindle]

Each farming square can have one type fertilizer applied at a time, but you can stack up to 99 fertilizers of the same type on a single square. Each square will consume 1 fertilizer per growth cycle. In order to achieve full benefit of fertilizer, it needs to be consumed every day. E.g. fertilizing a potato (5 day crop) only 4 times with harvest boost fertilizer will give 4/5 chance of getting bonus yield. -palia wiki

keep in mind that the amount of fertilizer does depend on how many tiles the crop takes up, for example the 2x2 plants will take 4 fert per "day" while apples will require 9

[royal quail]

Wait so I can place multiple fertilizers (of the same type) on a square? And it stacks for each revolving "day"?

[clear kindle]

yep, up to 99 on the crop

[royal quail]

99 ferts on one square? Daaaaang okay

[clear kindle]

and no, there is no auto stack function, you're going to be clicking 99 times to drop all that fert onto the tile

[slender barn]

hell naw

[royal quail]

Huh... this changes everything

[slender barn]

icic, I'll consider the layout after level up to 25 then. Needed the ingredient but can't do it rn cuz I'm still in need of the quality improve

[clear kindle]

it's why a lot of the layouts that we recommend will try to have harvest boost as high as possible with as little fert use. out of all the buffs, harvest boost is/should be the top priority as it grants more crops which equals more gold as it gives +50% the normal harvest. for example, an apple tree normally gives only 16 apples per harvest, but with harvest boost you'll get 24 per harvest. 4 apple trees harvest boosted will grant 96 apples per harvest round

[royal quail]

What do you recommend I do with apples? Ive just been making jelly and either sell that or feed it to make glow worms.

And all the popular cooking parties for bean burgers, sushi, poke bowls, and/or celebration dont need apples

[clear kindle]

i do apples to jam and sell the jam

[pure yew]

Does planting gold seeds yield a higher rate of gold produce?

I'm just getting started with the bean seed cycle to make a profit and I want to make sure I'm doing it right. Should I be planting only golds?

[supple stone]

Starred Seeds have a bonus 25% chance for you to get starred crops when harvesting, so yeah, generally better to use starred seeds

[pure yew]

Oh I didn't know that, thank you so much!!

[floral talon]

what sylva said

[slender barn]

is this a question or statement?

[floral talon]

statement though i do often forget the question mark on questions

[slender barn]

ahahaha

[random carbon]

is there a way to put these seeds in an app and it spits out the most optimal layout? or do i have to manually do it

[floral talon]

Nope theres a website we use to help make layouts
And optimal for what?

[random carbon]

money! i know of https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app but i was wondering if i could just insert how many seeds i have and it gives me a layout so i dont have to try a bunch of layouts

[floral talon]

Uhm im that app xd

[daring pagoda]

any good 4 mony making >any tips 2 make it better >?

[floral talon]

i gues u could replace the corner wheat with potato
thats it for real
and when u level up enuf u stop needing the quality up fert

[slender barn]

if we want to compare layout do we consider the total or average gold per tick?

[clear kindle]

i want to say the growth tic total, as the total would be for the full growth tics (the last number given in the top bar). that number is assuming you are actually online for that many hours straight as the crops only grow one stage when you are offline

[slender barn]

damn, forget about that, need to take it into consideration

btw are there any way to know how much money we got in accordance to hours we playin?

[flat gale]

how are we looking? Mostly trying to optimize most gold with having produce for bean burgers/cake parties

[slender barn]

damn 81d

[flat gale]

That number doesn't feel right, but I guess it's a good thing I use a lot of my crops for cooking if it is lol.

[slender barn]

damn guys, is it normal to have 100k+ a day

[supple stone]

If you log on every hour to harvest your garden and put stuff in processors, you would still struggle to hit 100k per irl day with gardening simply because you wouldn't have enough crafters to process everything, so you would have to sell a lot of stuff raw.
100k per irl day without gardening isn't so hard, but it really depends on how much you play and what activities you do.
If you mean 100k per in-game day, that isn't so easy

[supple stone]

Just over 4k per tick is around what you'd expect for a layout like that. There's 4 HB fert next to Beans that are unnecessary (2 next to the Beans on the bottom edge, 2 next to the one on the top edge)

[clear kindle]

the 81 days is because of the 180 growth tics section. basically, if you tended to your garden for 180 growth tics without processing anything and decided to do all of the processing at the end, it would take you 81 irl days to process all of your produce with how ever many crafters you put into the planner

[forest sluice]

What is everyone's recommendations on a layout for a money farm with 10 preserves jars, 4 seed makers, and 7 worm farms available. I am level 51 currently. I've been doing my all napa cabbage kimchi setup with alternating fish for cash and fish for harvest boost fert for a while and it's been going well. Playing around with the garden planner and was wanting to know if there was something I could be doing better.

I'm going for no overhead/no seed buying due to the seed hoppers

[clear kindle]

everyone has a different "money" layout as any layout can generate gold as long as you tend to the garden.
if you want pure hardcore gold and don't mind babysitting the layout a field full of bok choy (either with harvest boost fert on every tile or strategically placed rice/wheat/corn to provide boost) and turn them all into seeds is the "ultimate" gold garden. but it needs a lot of babysitting as the seeders can only hold 16 stacks of crop before being clogged.
if you're a more social butterfly and like to go to cooking parties to get your gold, then the layouts should reflect what party you're going to and the role that you want to perform at each.
or, if you're more interested in just exploring the world around you, doing quests and such an afk layout would be something more ideal.

i go with the afk layout myself

[floral talon]

i gave my personal recommendation 😄

[clear kindle]

honestly, i stopped playing again shortly after the husbandry update

[forest sluice]

I'll have to try both of these thanks so much. Yeah I'm not really into the husbandry. I'm definitely more into fishing and mining. I find both more relaxing

[floral talon]

ranching is so stressfull

[forest sluice]

It really is. The focus food alone to keep them fed is enough to drive me bonkers

Like why am I feeding a bee soup

[floral talon]

and if u dont breed em in time they get venerated and ur lef t without ur trait bred one

• the game forces u into the fashion route cuz otherwise u dont get enuff reincarni treats

[clear kindle]

with the layout that i posted, i actually swapped out two of the blueberries for beans as they give the same buff (and are worth a bit more in gold). the bushes and trees are afk, and those are the only things i harvest (apples and the two bean plants) and unless you care about the aesthetics of the grown crops everything else can be ignored. i use 2 seeders (one for apples and apple seed storage, the other for bean production) and then 8 preserve jars (apple jams

[forest sluice]

100 percent right there

[slender barn]

how many seed collector and preserves jar do i need?

[clear kindle]

i know there's a math system for it to determine how many you need, but it's not like we can say "oh, 5 of each is all you need" because it would be different for every one. me for example that only harvests apples and beans only need 2 seeders (one for apples seed storage and the other for beans) and then 8 preserve jars for apples

[slender barn]

im using 13 seeder and 4 preverse jar for this, is it too much?

btw how much seed i need to keep

[floral talon]

Get more jars

[clear kindle]

always keep enough to replant, then sell the rest

[tame fractal]

Hello all, I have a dumb question before I spend a lot of guild coins. The well you buy from Badruu. We can fill our watering can from it right?

[hollow marsh]

yes!

[tame fractal]

Ahh good, cos I didt want to get it if it was purely decor lol

[floral talon]

its hte only medal decor that has a use
if not from all decors

i mean the other ones go tuses but not like mechanics more like we use em for stuff

[slender barn]

how many?

[slender barn]

are 30 okay? I'm always afraid the seed didn't get produced enough till next cycle so always keep around 60, is that too much?

[floral talon]

everytime u cant jar something add another jar

[floral talon]

60 is fine

[slender barn]

what about the seeder? is it too much?

[floral talon]

everytime u have to seed something and they cant keep up add anothe rone

[slender barn]

so if an example, i have 30 cabbage left in inventory, add more jar?

[lean sinew]

Any idea why the seed collector say i lack the material when trying to make seed of a blueberry?

[floral talon]

u need to put a certain amount in till it cna make seeds or something

[lean sinew]

So... more blueberries?

[south hinge]

Does anyone have an all ingredients garden layout that produces equal (or somewhat equal) star quality and regular ingredients? I’ve got plenty of star qualities but I’m struggle to get just some regular carrots 😅

[floral talon]

u get 25% star chance at lv 0
+25% with star seeds
+2% per level
+50% with quality up

so thats means ur lv makes sure u wont get unstarred yey (this is really awkward when u wanna gift stuff or forget to click the allow starred when cooking)

[south hinge]

Ah I see. Yeah that is really awkward 🥲😅 ty

[floral talon]

u do not need starred foragables to cook if ur hitting that mark

[south hinge]

Nah, I just like to have a good supply of both, mainly for gifting.

Ahhh the struggles of being addicted to playing loll

[floral talon]

thats really sweet though

[floral talon]

u know getting more star selling it leaves enuff extra money to buyt he very few of the buyable unstarred u would need to gift

u can sitll get some unstarred apples blueberrys with ranodm zeki coin/rummage rewards or buy emw ith gardening medals

[south hinge]

Ooo good point!

Thank you! Didn’t think of that lol

[floral talon]

do keep plenty of gardening medal income to buy an ungodly amount of wells though

[slender barn]

yep, you can see the amohnt you need in the seed collector

[slate kelp]

Hi, i'm looking for the best choise to breed Glow worms with HarvestBoostMax for time need and price item used.
Actually the Shepp pie give 2 worms per hour and Celebrate cake give 3 worms & QualityBoost fertilizer

[floral talon]

Exces meats shrooms eggs milk other foragables
Grilles exces fish

[solar oar]

hey does anyone have a layout for most weeds ? im trying to do the 1k weed achivement

[floral talon]

No weedblock but stuff planted its all the same weedwise weeds cap at 9

[gleaming bone]

I wonder if the weeds from the flower bloom event count? Because literally no one does those anymore so you could pluck lots from there lol

[cerulean gulch]

specially if theres 2 events active on the map you can rack up that counter fast

[floral talon]

Could test it if u dont got ur schivement yet

[gleaming bone]

I’ll try it next time I see it!

[slow flame]

Hello! Does anybody have a good layout for maximum exp? Or is it just all apples?

[clear kindle]

All crops give 4 exp per slot per day of growth. Regrowing crops give exp based on total grow time divided by number of harvests on each harvest. - Palia wiki.

so, it's up to you if you want quick growing crops with or long lasting crops. it's all the same. just remember that you only get exp from harvesting your crops

[slender barn]

the number of harvest on each harvest? the resulting corps? or what

[plush remnant]

Do I need to use multiple weed block fertilizers for each plant, or is one enough to stop weed growth?

[floral talon]

One per growthtick per tilesize

[severe flower]

Does harvest boost make vegetables/fruits starred?

[floral talon]

no it just increases the yield by 50%
it has a chance of proccing based on how much of hte time it was present but its usually always present so +50% produce

[severe flower]

Thank you!

[spare iris]

What are the most profitable crops to grow?

[half egret]

does anyone else have a bug where harvest boost fertilizer will just disappear from a soil plot randomly?

[floral talon]

Yes

[hollow dove]

Has there been talk of the choice of sprinklers by chance?

[true quail]

That would be so helpful, watering gets so tedious

[floral talon]

we can make fully self wateringh layouts though (with some expceptions as to when u eneed to water it)

[slender barn]

any spicy chili layout recommendation?

[slender barn]

hmmm, should i use this?

mannn, duhscape layout all good, what should i choose to go through damn it 😭

[floral talon]

I dont have that the only dish layouts i got are rice or burger or fruit

[slender barn]

eh, where you get it then

[floral talon]

get what?

[mint sandal]

You want a spicy pepper layout or a veggie chili layout? Cause spicy chili is neither a crop nor a dish in the game

If you meant veggie chili then I just made this one (you can cut the fertilizer cost in half if you fertilize only the pepper bushes)
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-P.HTBtCOBtBtBtCr-BtCrCBtTP.HCOS.H-O.HS.HS.HT.HS.HS.HS.HO.HT.H-BtBtTCrTO.HCP.HS.H-PCrS.HCRPS.HCrC-S.HC.HPT.HOCrOBtBt-O.HT.HS.HS.HS.HO.HS.HS.HT.H-S.HTPC.HOBtPCrBt-CrBtBtBtTPBtOC.H_D360GtL75

[slender barn]

all good, just need for night sku temple bundle

[slender barn]

im trying this, anything in particular i need to keep in mind?

[floral talon]

Dont think so

[drifting osprey]

Hey Palians, Would someone mind explaining to me how to properly use Quality up furtilizer? When using it im only getting like 1 stared vegetable.

[slender barn]

what is more profitable

this one ot the one before that using cotton

[slender barn]

Starred vegetables also take into account your gardening lv

[drifting osprey]

My gardening is level 7

[floral talon]

Cotton is for lower levels as it needs the quality up

[floral talon]

It increases ur star chance per produce

[drifting osprey]

Is it worth it to put star ⭐️ vegetables back into the seeder for ⭐️ seeds?

Just want to make sure I’m being as productive as possible.

Also when planting ⭐️ veggies I give it harvest boost and non ⭐️ get quality up?

[floral talon]

yup cuz starred seeds more starred produce till u reach a level at which u dont get unstarred produce but hten itst tsill cheaperr to make starred seeds then to buy unstarred ones

[slender barn]

yep but i just noticed that cabbage sell more than bok choy

[floral talon]

but bokchoi(edit) grows twice in the time cabbage does once