🌱│gardening

[ocean wraith]

Afk farms are great for not having to worry about gardening and just come back after like 5 in game days to harvest and replant

Use that time to fish, hunt, decorate, etc....

[floral talon]

every growthtick per tile is the same xp meaning every plant is the same xp per tile it takes and time it grows so go afk layout

or whatever makes u waste the least growth time

harvest boost does not affect xp gain
im not sure about quality of the produce though

[humble vessel]

hey thanks guys I wasnt expecting such good answers

❤️

[floral talon]

what is ur elve l then u need low level layouts?

[ocean wraith]

I recommend shorter times cuz number go up is better incentive

Alsp i didnt realize gardening was this profitable and i havent even unlocked jams yet

[floral talon]

i mean its only the 3rd most profitable thing to do in this game

with place 0 beign whatever u dont even realsie ur doing

[floral talon]

can u jar it? then jar it if not seed collector. unles bokchoi and potatoe those go seeds
cotton is for self use as fabric so those go into the loom trust me even if u only do water retain harvest boost layout with cotton till u dont need its buff u still dont have enough cotton for self use (not even as a builder just to comp the furniture sets and quests)

if only i knew how to farm coins super fast earlier i could have been done in just a few days for all my coins needs but now im a gardening expert here

[raven musk]

Anyone has an idea why (in the top left and bottom right) in these layout 2 spaces are missing intentionally/on purpose? I´m kinda new and can´t explain it to myself.. 😄 Thanks in advance for clarification 🥺

[humble vessel]

Gardening level 16

[floral talon]

I would put a harvest boost plant there nut maybe maker ment put whatever

[floral talon]

just 9 more levels and you will be leaving low level land do you need a beginner layout?

[short hound]

Gardening makes me angry sometimes

Plus on the lower levels it’s very expensive to keep up the quality grow fert

[floral talon]

... u use that fert?
to me that only existed in theory

[short hound]

I mean

[floral talon]

u need ez mode layout

[short hound]

I’m doing a thing will all corn bc I’ll need the corn for the cooking parties

I need all starred crops at least 200 starred of each

[floral talon]

thats not how farming works well not efficeintly

[short hound]

Wdym

[floral talon]

just i make max corn thas not lots of fert for quality needers

[short hound]

Ok can u make me a plot that includes just corn and another crop to make it more star quality or something if possible ?

[floral talon]

u dont want water retain?

just corn with buffs

[short hound]

Ok that first one is perfect thankyou

Can you utilize onions, carrots, tomatoes, bok choy into those as well they don’t gotta be all together just good quality

[floral talon]

uhm that kinda goes at the expense of one of hte other buffs as theres a limit on buff amoutns though

[short hound]

Whatever you think works best I don’t mind

[floral talon]

also to have superior quality up layout u have to ditch the sqaure shape and go a single line

but noone wants that

[floral talon]

on ce ucan ditch the cotton that will become ez though

[short hound]

I don’t need cotton rn

[floral talon]

do you neeed the quality up boost? then u need cotton

[short hound]

Well yeah I suppose

[floral talon]

or u can swap some water retain plants out and just water i guess aslong as u dont have to water to much since u gotto come back every hour for weedplucking anyways it wont hurt alot

[short hound]

I’m unsure

[floral talon]

nows also the best time to do a alayout with like 4 spicypeppers

[short hound]

All I know is I Atleast need a fast way to get 200 of every starred crops

[floral talon]

for that challenge and stockpiel so u never need to do that plkant again

[short hound]

Show me the layout

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoCbWCrPCoWCbSp-CrCbCrCoP.HCoSpCb.HSp-WCbCoCoPCrSpCbW-CrCbSpCoPWCrCbSp-SpCb.HSpCrPCrSpCb.HSp-SpCbCrWPCoSpCbCr-WCbSpCrPCoCoCbW-SpCb.HSpCoP.HCoCrCbCr-SpCbWCoPCrWCbCo

uses fert but its optional as its only 6 harvest boost ones

[short hound]

What abt a layout with onion and tomato

With cotton I suppose

[floral talon]

bro cabbage potatoe is literly the same as cabbage tomatoe or potato tomato

[floral talon]

yeay that can work

just grab me afk plot and swap half the weedblcok out for cotton 😄

[short hound]

So do I just switch what u got around to make the tomato and onion work ?

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111111111_CROPS-CbPCoCrRCrCo.HpCoCb-CoCbPCrRCrPCoCo-CoCoCbCrRCrCbPCo-PCoCoCrRCrCoCbP-CbPCoCrRCrCoCoCb-CoCbPCrRCrPCoCo-CoCoCbCrRCrCbPCo-PCoCoCrRCrCoCbP-CbPCoCrRCrCoCoCb.Hp alter this one

[raven palm]

This still a good setup for primarily getting apples? I remember using this like, before Tau was friendable.

[floral talon]

no if u only want apples theres better options

but i c how it used to make more sense before the blues would harvest boost htose apples

[raven palm]

Ohhh, so time to reorganize things then

[floral talon]

currently it doesnt make sense

cuz we have fully afk apples layotus with 4

hell even one where the 4 apples and 4 blueberrys are afk im very proud of that oen

[raven palm]

Oh that sounds nice

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-BBPBBTRCbP-AAAAAAAAA-PTPBBCbBBR-AAAAAAAAA-RBBCbBBPTP-AAAAAAAAA-PCbRTBBPBB-AAAAAAAAA
max water retain apples and blueberrys /jams
this is for harvesting everything but no weedblock

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-BkOCrBBCbBBP-AAAAAAAAA-BBBkBBOPCbCr-AAAAAAAAA-BkOBkOCo.HOBkOBk-AAAAAAAAA-CrCbPOBBBkBB-AAAAAAAAA-PBBCbBBCrOBk
afk jams and cakes this one is awesome

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HCbCBkAACAA-BkPCbACrAAC.HpA-CBkP.HAACbAAC-CbAAPCr.WCr.WBkAA-ABkACb.WP.HCb.WABkA-AABkCr.WCr.WPAACb-CAACbAAP.HBkC-AC.HpAACrACbPBk-AACAABkCCbP.H
everything afk apples2

that pcture i dont have the link of for some reason

as u can see we have evolved

[raven palm]

Yea Im mostly looking to use the apples for Cake creations and such.

But.. evolved indeed. This is a lot different than what we used to do

[floral talon]

if u also start cakes u need blueberrys to and if u only harvest apples anyways i recommedn the afk apple/blueerry one

unfortunately due to bugs i cannot make a 6 apple tree afk farm sight not even 5 so 4 is best

[floral talon]

use this one i recommend unles u want the other stuff to

[floral talon]

if u harvest everything then this one

[raven palm]

I appreciate the help

[floral talon]

U should be all good rn then gn

[dim oasis]

is there any way to tweek this to also produce cotton or is it better to just buy fabric from tish in the late game?

[clear kindle]

not without losing a buff (you can decide which one to lose depending on what you would rather do). for me, what i did, was before planting this layout, i planted nothing but cotton (all 81 slots) and harvested it to place into my loom. as i use my loom (and other crafters) for extra storage i simply kept planting cotton until my loom was completely full of fabric and had a stack of cotton ready to go in the top slot. if that's not an option, and you don't do a lot of furniture crafting that requires fabric (and you have the excess gold to do so) you could just buy what you need from tish's

[dim oasis]

[clear kindle]

if you are a big furniture crafter, and you used all of the fabric in your loom, you can always replant the cotton and repeat as necessary when the gardens are full empty

[dim oasis]

Yeah ill probably go with that then; only a week into the game but already using so much fabric and silk in making furniture

I'm assuming it'll only get worse from here

[clear kindle]

as you play and decide how you want to decorate your house, yeah, especially if you like the furniture that uses fabric, why i decided to set up my crafters as i did (1 crafter to each of the items that can go into it, so 3 sawmills, 6 smelters, 2 glass furnaces, etc.)

[dim oasis]

gotcha, tyty

[obtuse flicker]

should i sell raw apples or make them into seeds?

[clear kindle]

neither, preserve jar them and only put in enough for seeds to replant. it takes 10 apples to make 1 seed, while you get 1:1 for jams

[obtuse flicker]

Do preserves sell well?

[clear kindle]

one star apple jam sells for 144g, while 1 star apple seed (remember it takes 10 apples) sells for 1050g, so if my math is right, 10 star apple jams will sell for 1440g

[obtuse flicker]

oh thank you for the info

[urban lion]

This is the apple setup I use, full water retain and weedblock
Also pretty easy to memorize the pattern

And I often use harvest boost fertilizer for the apple trees

[floral talon]

… only a week how did u hit lv25 gardening in that time without doing tons of cotton

[severe python]

whats the best set up so i never have to water my plants or rarly need to, mostly just need them for glow worms

[dim oasis]

You need level 25 gardening for the farm?

[floral talon]

at lv 25 u stop needing quality up plants like cotton cuz all star seeds re always starredd produce

[clear kindle]

better to use grilled fish for glow worms, as they will give more depending on which fish is grilled

[slow flame]

Is more worth sell the cotton or the fabric?

[clear kindle]

cotton isn't a gold crop, it's there to make fabric and give a boost for quality up buff before level 25. recommend just planting cotton and then putting it (and storing if you have the space) to make fabric and use it for furniture crafting

[slow flame]

I really appreciate you explication, thanks so much

[floral talon]

so yeay cotton is used for its buff and self use only though inever really calced its usefullness when converting to seeds for gold but its probs worse then toher plants which buff is usefull

[clear kindle]

cotton is 45/67 gold raw, to fabric it takes 2 cotton and the fabric sells for 48 gold. cotton to seed, is 1:3 and is 20/30 per (60-90 for 1 cotton)

[opaque barn]

For some reason it feels better to be to just sell raw crops or preserves rather than sell seeds and I can't bring myself to compost perfectly good cake either like some people do. I can't be bothered if it's good money or not. But using the fish I don't want, grilled, in the composter has been great for my glow worm stockpile

It also makes me feel like I'm not wasting glow worms when I don't catch the fish I wanted, because I know I will be able to turn them into more glow worms

[floral talon]

just use jars man its like +50% profit

[opaque barn]

I use jars for apple jam and sometimes blueberry jam, but I tend to play for hours at a time and it takes ~1hr to jam just one apple so I get a lot more fresh produce than jars have time to process. It's not really worth like 45min of processing to turn a 30g crop into 60g. I enjoy growing all the crops at once in my garden but I don't feel the need to make jars for every crop. Too much trouble. But I keep my jam jars running when I'm not playing and everything. But it's easier to just sell most stuff raw

[floral talon]

no u spend 30 seconds dumping it in everywhere and taking it back out the next time

[opaque barn]

I'd have to redesign my space to fit a lot more jars and buy a bunch of crafting licenses to be able to place them, then I'd have to keep track of which jars have stacks of which crops in them. I couldn't be bothered

I already make plenty of cash as is. I don't need to maximize my cash

[clear kindle]

it;s why i made my life easy and just became an apple farmer

[opaque barn]

If the crafting license was 2000 and I made 30g/hour profit by using the jar it would take 67 hours of processing just to recoup the cost of the license

It would be different if I was making all Stardew Ancient Fruit Jam 😂 but when you are starting with a low value crop, doubling the value isn't that impressive

[opaque barn]

Yeah it's good to remember in farming sim type games the most important resource is your own time and the most important goal is doing what is fun for you

I know for some people, figuring out maximum efficiency and maximum profits is what is fun to them. That's not my cup of tea

I enjoy a nice garden but I also want to adventure, hunt, craft, mine etc so I designed my garden to have all crops, but everything has water retain buff so I don't have to water except when reseeding and most of it has weed resist too

And I've gotten it so the big plants at least have the other buffs too

[little summit]

Does someone have a good garden layout for max blueberries/peppers?

Looking for waterless/weedless if possible

[clear kindle]

i'm the same way, prefer to be out doing things for long periods than just having to stop what i'm doing in the middle of it to go water/weed my plot, which is why i jumped on the layout that i'm using right now that has 100% weed/water/harvest boost (though i don't use the fertilizer on the crops that need it)

[urban lion]

This is what I’ve been able to do

[little summit]

Oh nice, better than anything I was able to make up. Thank you!

[devout frigate]

Anyone have a layout for the most beginner crops?

[strange arrow]

do we know if there are plans to allow us to have more then 9 plots for gardening?

[clear kindle]

not at this time, no

i honestly don't see any potential over the 9, maybe in the future, but no plans (or word) as of now

[strange arrow]

okay thank you

[raven musk]

What excactly do you mean by 'beginner' ? Like a 3x3 Layout for example 🙂 ?

[raven musk]

this could be a very beginner layout in my opinion:
(every crop benefits from the tomato's water retention and potato's harvest boost)

[floral talon]

nah u just dump stuff in and take it out at the same time wya easier

[floral talon]

fun uhm hello OCD is a thing

[proud fjord]

does the quality boost (either from fertilizer or adjacent crops) become irrelevant at some point if you’re using all star quality seeds and over a certain level?

[floral talon]

25 for starred seeds 38 for unstarred seeds

but u may want to stop using any earlier cuz a 99% chance boosted to 100% isnt such a bgi difference

[proud fjord]

gotcha.. thanks

[floral talon]

why do u need th ose max? just 4 harvest boosted blueberrys once should last u for everything but cakepartyhosting

[lean anchor]

how do you get apples and blueberries

[floral talon]

leveling gives u seeds

if ur past lv10 and never got those seeds for em u need to do friendship quests if that dont work uhm ouch ur ognna have to beg others or do rng things

[lean anchor]

thanks ! it doesnt let me request them at all though

[floral talon]

need to have had some in the past u woudlnt be the firsty player to think u sell tomatoe seeds and it beign ur only apple seed for example but once u had one of the seeds u can requyest and one of the produce u can request the produce to get enough to make a seed

[floral talon]

what is your current lv?

[lean anchor]

6

[floral talon]

just lv up do you need beginner layout?

how does everyone get to that frui consuming quest before hitting their garrdening up do most poeple not liek gardening crazy

[clear kindle]

because it prompts practically as soon as you are done with the tutorial quests. like immediately after you complete it

[floral talon]

i mean i hit it first when gettign fruti seeds was only possible with quests or rng

[floral talon]

oh so normal poeple dont lv thei rgardening first to get afk money for tool recipes

[severe python]

Wdym more? I honestly thought it was 1 item = 1 glow worm

[clear kindle]

they literally do all of the beginning quests to learn how to do things, then when those are done, it pops up for those quests

[floral talon]

depends on gold vlaue of the item grilled fish has very high gold value

[floral talon]

my gawd thats such bad game design well it used to be worse before lving gave seeds

[lean anchor]

yes

[clear kindle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cDsOxSJSkODSEimSEZmmos2_5hOGJ1Typ4tXutjBI9I/edit?gid=1206330854#gid=1206330854

[floral talon]

how many soils u got

[severe python]

Thanks I'll have a look

[lean anchor]

8

[floral talon]

BEGINNER LAYOUTS!!!

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoRCbTWTCbRCo-NWNNCrNNWN-CoRTCbWCoTRCb-CoRCbTWTCbRCo-NCrNNWNNNN-CoRTCbWCoTRCb-CoRCbTWTCbRCo-NNNNNNNNN-CoRTCbWCoTRCb
example patterns for low level

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-Co.HSpSpCb.HSpSpPCrCo-CoAACbAAPAA-ACrPAWCbACr.HpCo-CoBBCbBBPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo
weave in low level

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoCbWCrPCoWCbSp-CrCbCrCoP.HCoSpCb.HSp-WCbCoCoPCrSpCbW-CrCbSpCoPWCrCbSp-SpCb.HSpCrPCrSpCb.HSp-SpCbCrWPCoSpCbCr-WCbSpCrPCoCoCbW-SpCb.HSpCoP.HCoCrCbCr-SpCbWCoPCrWCbCo
example with spicy peppers but uses fert

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-RCbCoCrPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR-RCbCoCrPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR-RCbCoCrPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR
more cotton

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoCrCbPRCoCbCrCo-PCrCoCoRPCoCrP-CoCrCb.HpCbRCoCbCrCo-CoCrCbCb.HpRCoCoCrCb-PCrCoCoRPPCrCo-CoCrPCbR.QCb.QCoCrP-CbCrCoPRCoCoCrCb-CoCrPCoRPPCrCo-CbCrCoCbRCoCoCrCb.Hp
more cotton nr2

DuhScape — Yesterday at 01:13
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111111111_CROPS-CbPCoCrRCrCo.HpCoCb-CoCbPCrRCrPCoCo-CoCoCbCrRCrCbPCo-PCoCoCrRCrCoCbP-CbPCoCrRCrCoCoCb-CoCbPCrRCrPCoCo-CoCoCbCrRCrCbPCo-PCoCoCrRCrCoCbP-CbPCoCrRCrCoCoCb.Hp
Lane maximum star quality for only 2 water retain fert can swap water retain with harvest boost aswell if u prefer other fert

have ur pick of em nr1 is just an exmaple of how to chain stuff shows some options

[clear kindle]

shows how much things give as far as out put. grilled fish has it's own tab at the bottom. the rarer the fish, the more you get back in the worm bins. for example, cooking two void rays together and getting a star grilled fish and putting that into the glow bin will net you 66 glow worms and 336 harvest boost. bonus you get cooking exp

[lean anchor]

Thank you !!!

[severe python]

Ah I see thanks sm for your help

[clear kindle]

yeah, i think i had the order quest within like 2 hours of game play or something like that. i know that i had them unlocked at least by day 2

[floral talon]

i first spend 4hours on palia garden planner then went to garden by hopping on every hour for 5min

[quasi parcel]

Not liking that I only get starred crops now. I need both!

[little summit]

for fun and jamming, but mostly for funsies

[clear kindle]

the only reason to have regular crops is in case of gifting them to other players. cooking you can hit the "use quality items" to use the star crops, and you can place any other star ingredient into the lock box that you don't want to use. the more star ingredients you have in the recipe the higher the chance of getting star foods in return

[floral talon]

no you do not

[quasi parcel]

Why? I don't always make starred dishes

[floral talon]

u should

[quasi parcel]

Ok I guess. Just thought I need both

[floral talon]

the cost of cooking is way more the effort spend in making it so why not go for that extra starred chance

[short hound]

I rlly wish crops grew fully when offline

It’s saddening to come back online and see them not fully grown with full water protection

[devout frigate]

Do you have one where things like mais cotton bokchoy and onion are also involved? And carrots. I just don't have apples blueberry and spicy pepers Just trying to find a pattern that works for me and I'm just 1 week in for r playing palia

[raven musk]

Not at the moment sry 😦

But @floral talon posted a few Layouts, maybe there is something that youre searching for? 🙈 here #🌱│gardening message

[devout frigate]

I like the first one. But do you have a pattern that includes the middle ones. Otherwise it feels like lost space

[floral talon]

U just repeat one of the patterns for the entire thing i even stated its examples it just shows how to chain things repeat the top left soil for all soils then

[floral talon]

How?

[humble vale]

I explained the trick there ^

[floral talon]

Anchor how do u get that furniture?

[devout frigate]

Alright thanks a lot

[floral talon]

Yourwelcome

[slow flame]

I found this but somebody have one for money ? I mean for make money

[obtuse notch]

U can try to use the garden plot generator. It has sliders so u can choose if u want more profit, water retnention, etc.

[floral talon]

That is an everything layout its for self usage

Not money

[slow flame]

Omg where is is?

[slow flame]

Thanks so much

[solid fox]

Could you please share any layout for money whenever you have a chance? You appear to be really knowledgeable, and as a newbie (today is my 3rd day in Palia), I am not sure how to you the garden layout generator 😦

[slow flame]

I found this

[obtuse notch]

https://paliapedia.com/tools/garden

Yea that lol

[slow flame]

Thanks so much! I really appreciate your help!

You make my day and my garden (?

[obtuse notch]

No probs i did nothing lol

[floral talon]

Plz never ever use that random layout generator again

[floral talon]

You need low lv layouts?

[solid fox]

my gardening level is now 10, and I have been collecting apple seeds (because I heard that apple can generate best profit from somewhere...)

[floral talon]

No apple is not best just easiest

[floral talon]

Here

[solid fox]

Thank you.

[obtuse notch]

Y

[jaunty plover]

i play maybe twice a month very casually atp do yall have a good crop setup that gets me money that i dont have to water 🙏🙏

ideally id also like star quality

i dont like gardening at all so the easier it is the better 😭

[floral talon]

Lv?

[floral talon]

The less tedious layouts are way more fun

[jaunty plover]

let me check its gotta be pretty low 😭

i only farm apples to sell the starred jam

gardening is 14

[humble vale]

Anchor is not an item, it's just a word used of an item which is used as an anchor. For example by "cancel method".

[floral talon]

So what did ya use as anchor

[floral talon]

thenu still need beginner farms till or close to 25

[floral talon]

@jaunty plover here

[humble vale]

crate

[floral talon]

😮 and then u removed the crate?

[humble vale]

Nope. Because the soil needs to be anchored to the ground all the time. Otherwise it will spawn to your front yard.

[humble vale]

Add me and I'll come visit you.

[floral talon]

ok

[jaunty plover]

im confused

[floral talon]

beginner layouts have quality up plants at 25 starred seeds is only starred produce hence we incorp lowlevel layouts iweth cotton

you ened hte cotton anyways for self use as fabric til ur done wiht lots of stuff

[floral talon]

no way i can type ur nickname like or real how added

[jaunty plover]

okay so i should just farm cotton? i really dont know how any of it works i told u i hate gardening 😭

[floral talon]

i send u layouts

click the HERE and click it again to my post of low level layout options

[floral talon]

@jaunty plover follow hte chain of messages plz

and click those links

[floral talon]

YOU HAVE BEEN ADDED!!!!!!!!!

[jaunty plover]

oh okay i found it

can i just sell all of it?

[floral talon]

u can sell produce fdirectly but u make way more if u dump stuff into a jarmaker/seedcolelctor loom is for ur cototn for sel fuse as ffabric cuz u burn through that stuff(in the beginning unles ur a builder)

[jaunty plover]

okayy i think i got it 😭

[floral talon]

now u can ask better questions

[humble vale]

I just added you

[floral talon]

be there soon

[polar dirge]

Max i found for massive money

[floral talon]

😮 nice dont forget to proces it then its like 5.6k

[floral talon]

logging in

[polar dirge]

more simply to make and equal ( 3110 coins)

[floral talon]

plz uses the correct garden planner website

cuz then u can even select what to turn produce into hehe

[polar dirge]

??? what you mean ?

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/

[polar dirge]

and what is the difference ??

[floral talon]

i just showed u crop slect what ot turn it into

[silent patrol]

There is no "correct" garden plot layout planner...this is the one that is most commonly used, however

[polar dirge]

sorry i don't understand what you mean and what the difference

[polar dirge]

the other is a generator, not a simulator

[floral talon]

yeay hte generator is useless only the sim is usefull

[silent patrol]

I didn't refer to either of those words...what are you correcting?

[floral talon]

😈 i have discovered new ways to cheese gardening i have to conduct more madscience
will only have time to do this next week maybe or next month ... so busy
8 afk everything buffed apple trees migh tbe possible HEHE hehehehe MUHAHAHAHA

[mystic skiff]

8 apple trees? 😂

Also with maji market ending tomorrow, I'm gonna have more time at my plot In between my plush hunts or hotpot . And I spent all my gold on floating candles 😂

Whats the layout for maximum bokcage?

[floral talon]

bokchoi cabbage?

[floral talon]

yeay i may now know a trick to put 8 soils on the same spot hehe

[mystic skiff]

Don't really care about which watering plant it is. But that's the fastest one right?

[floral talon]

depends how u mean fastest tomaote can be fastest potato can be fastest or slowest cabbage is fastest or slowest depends fast at what

[mystic skiff]

Haha I mean. fastest = least days to harvest.

[floral talon]

potatoe or tomatoe then

till first harvest or till last harvest

[smoky vessel]

If i have a tiny gap between my plots, will they be able to get buffs from the crops on the other plot?

[silent patrol]

Refer to server rule #8, please

[floral talon]

probably not

[floral talon]

nah its fine its just creative layouts

[shadow lintel]

Guys how does this look? I'm level 2 gardening right now, just theorycrafting a bit.

[shadow lintel]

what site is this?

dot he plants that give something give it to themselves?

oh didn't realize i had fertilizers

[clear kindle]

same plants, no. but different plants with the same buff will give to the other one (i.e. bok choy next to bok choy will not give the buff to each other, but a carrot (or onion) next to a bok choy will give both plants the weed protection) though, i wouldn't really focus on weed prevention this early in the game, as you need 1000 weeds to be picked in order to get the weed whacker achievement

renown early on in the game is highly important as you'll need it to get your focus bar and focus boost up (each shrine requires 4,000 renown to max out) and you'll need it to buy the plot expansions to open more of the plot up

[runic nebula]

What's the negative impact of weed? Does it slow down growing or something?

[clear kindle]

it prevents growth of the crop, but doesn't stop the crop from giving it's buff. however, if you have 8-9 weeds in your garden at a single time, it could glitch the crops to either stop growing even when the weed isn't on the crop or have the crops grow in reverse

but, you also need to pick 1000 weeds to get the weed whacker achievement, and like i said a bit earlier, early, easy renown is really important

[runic nebula]

Since I have you here already, what does giving renown to the dragon statue actually do? I clicked few times but didn't read

[clear kindle]

the dragon shrine increases the focus bar at the top of your screen. (almost) everything you do in regards to the skills (like catching bugs) grants you experience that takes away from the focus bar. when the bar is full, you get the full experience times whatever your focus boost percentage is) if it's empty, you'll only get the regular amount of experience. the focus bar shows you how soon you'll need to eat something in order for it to remain full. the more you have the less likely you would need to eat as often.

the phoenix shrine, increases your focus boost, which as i said, give a bit more experience based on what the percentage is on top of the regular exp. which means you'll be leveling up your skills much faster the higher the boost is. to where you can basically get double exp for having a maxed out focus boost

[runic nebula]

Ohhhh oke, thank you a lot for being so elaborative, all is clear now

[floral talon]

speedygrow was put on there whcih dont do anything try to put same buff types together in pairs cuz a plant cant give itself its own buff
nice try though

[clear kindle]

not to mention that speedygro isn't until after level 10 and you have to use the guild coins to buy it

[shadow lintel]

what?

[floral talon]

green fertliser is useless and glitched DO NOT USE

[floral talon]

plants give buffs adjacent to them but not diagonally so if u want a layout with lots of water retain ug ive ur cabbage for example a potatoe as buddy next to it so both have water retain

[shadow lintel]

i understand that

all the bok choy is organized to receive as many buffs as possible

[floral talon]

oh so thats why

[shadow lintel]

the bok choy is the money crop right

[floral talon]

its high maintenance though and u still haev to water the rest of the plant types

[floral talon]

can be but its super tryhard and you need to be bale to process it

[shadow lintel]

is there something that is more income with less work?

[floral talon]

not more but less work definitly

[shadow lintel]

okay show me please

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoRCbTWTCbRCo-NWNNCrNNWN-CoRTCbWCoTRCb-CoRCbTWTCbRCo-NCrNNWNNNN-CoRTCbWCoTRCb-CoRCbTWTCbRCo-NNNNNNNNN-CoRTCbWCoTRCb
example patterns for low level(cuz they need quality up plants)

[shadow lintel]

oh higher levels dont need quality ups?

[floral talon]

they coudlnt get unstarred produce even if they wanted to eventually so nope

[shadow lintel]

nice

i will go rework my sheet to account for that

[floral talon]

yup at lv25 all ur starry seeds can only give starerd produce even without quazlity up

but quality up is hard to weave in often although th cotton itself doesnt need it as its only used to turn into fabric for self use

by the time ur lv25 u still need more cotton ... thats just how much all quests and one of each furniture alone take

[shadow lintel]

would it be better just to have a cash crop and then buy the cotton you need instead

[floral talon]

cotton and fbric are like 4x more expensive to buy then its sell value so as import substitution nothing can come close
buying it does have its uses if u dont wanna bother farming it for reasons

like each cotton is worth like 80-120 coins each or something if used as fabric to not buy it

[shadow lintel]

huh? sorry that whooshed

[floral talon]

buying cotton or fabric is stupidly expensive so much so that it costs way more then what other crops can produce in the same time so just farm ur own unles u need like 3 fabric or something or if u dont wanna redo ur layout or wait for it to be reday for cotton layout

but for selling it cotton is kinda mweh

[shadow lintel]

ok

so let me ask this, what's the "income" to strive for per day?

and about how many cotton do we want to farm in one rotation

[floral talon]

4k as in per growth tick for 9 soils after counting processing u can go higher but hgiher income layouts tend to have issues iwth being tryhard to farm or process (hence poeple dont go for the 6.5k layout but for 4k ones instead)

[shadow lintel]

;o can you show me a 6.5k layout?

i guess, is there any new ground to break here or has it been minmaxed to death already

[floral talon]

u lose like 500 per day in harvest fert as in that would be the value of it if u dump the fert into the sell bin so its more like 6k/6.1k

[shadow lintel]

wow, LOL

[floral talon]

this isnt correctly calced as i didnt set the amount of days to 12 so its like u dont produce any bokchoi in this calc or rice for 1 full growthtick

theres are layouts wiht more bokchoi without fert for all harvest boost but they are annoying to plant

and then theres this but u never have to water only pluck weeds all these examples do assume ur higher lv gardening htough

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111111111_CROPS-P.HCbCrBkCBkCr.HpRP-RPCbBkCBkCbCrR-CrRPBkCBkPCbCr-CbCrRBkCBkRPCb-PCbCrBkCBkCrRP-RPCbBkCBkCbCrR-CrRPBkCBkPCbCr-CbCrRBkCBkRPCb-PCbCr.HBkCBkCrRP.Hp afk strip but most moneys

[floral talon]

in this example i chose corn and rice as harvest boost plants over wheat
and potaote cabbage over tomatoe
cuz patoe is more moneys when processed into seeds as tomatoes is processed and cabbage is juyst dingle harvest whcih is easier and more in sync with other plants

and corn lines up with potatoe harvest times and rice 2x is same time as cabbage
liek thats also thigns to consider
tomatoes are awefull btw they neeed constant harvesting and are inefficeint to proces cuz u need like alot to proces in to one item so ur crafter get filled faster and operate less time in total

[shadow lintel]

geeze

[floral talon]

but just try ur own thing and use some of the clever tricks everry now and then XD

rules of thumb make it so ez 9/10 times some layouts requirements are just super hard to work with

gn

[shadow lintel]

here we go \o/

[mystic skiff]

Diagonal crop buffs when? 😂

[floral talon]

Nvr

[clear kindle]

speedygrow fert is not only broken as in doesn't work as intended, but you would have to spend so many guild coins to get that much of the fertilizer to cover the entire 81 slots, and there's a chance that the fertilizer would disappear

[floral talon]

It works on dome plants but not worth using unles ur some highscore leaderboard chaser

[toxic siren]

oml i forgot I had that on there lol

[floral talon]

Why is there cottonbin yo layout?

[proud fjord]

is there a reason why one tile would become unwaterable? or is that a bug? I can water all my other crops but one tile, no matter how much I water, the blue bar stays empty 🤷‍♀️

[floral talon]

Is the crop rdy for harvest? Does it have a plan in it

[proud fjord]

I had just planted a seed in it.. but I found a fix.. picked up the plot and moved it then I was able to water and move it back so it must have been a bug

[dry goblet]

OMG I've just find out that when you're gardening (watering, hoeing) and hold a shift key you CAN MOVE FASTER

[floral talon]

wut no way i wonder how thats effected by altering ur run key setup

[twin heron]

Ok harvesting question. I know it's best to keep plants up until their neighboring plant is done growing to make sure it receives max boost effect. But at what point is the plant considered grown for re-harvestable plants?

Specifically - this is my current set up. In order to make sure my fruits receive the max harvest bonus from neighboring plants when should they be harvested?

[ocean wraith]

alright i need an afk cotton harvest boost farm with 4 apple trees

no bushes

all seeds are already starred

and i will be weeding every day (so it's semi-afk)

what is the best setup for this?

do i do apples on corners?

[twin heron]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app

[ocean wraith]

yeah i'm experimenting wi th apples on corners

honestly apples on corners only works if you're doing 5 trees

so that changes the entire layout

something like this?

if i wanted more harvest boost fromt he apple i'd swap in some corn

but the goal is majority potatoes for preserving, apples for cakes and preserving, and cotton to turn into fabric

and cotton doesn't need quality

[twin heron]

What plant(s) do you need harvest boosted?

[ocean wraith]

most of the cotten is harvest boosted which is all i really care about with that laout

the outer cotton is bonus but also necessary for starred potatoes

[twin heron]

So you don't want harvest boost on the apples?

[ocean wraith]

won't need it for a bit this is a cotton farm

i have enough starred apples to make more seeds

if i needed harvest boost on apples i'd swap each innercorner (of the outer corner grids) with corn and 2 of the center cottons with cocrn

[twin heron]

Based on what you've said your needs are I think your layout is fantastic

[ocean wraith]

crops i won't be harvesting would be the corn and tomatoes in all honesty with this lay out

just to keep the boost indefinitely XD

[twin heron]

You'd only need to water your tomatoes or use the hydro fertilizer for more afk

And only 1/5 of your cotton isn't harvest boosted so you can use fert on those if you wanted

[ocean wraith]

this would be the harvest boosted apple layout

actually harvest boosting apples wouldn't be bad either

and the tomatoes are ssurrouneded by potatoes so they have waterr retain, the only thing i'd need to do each day is weeding

[twin heron]

Oh duh!

[ocean wraith]

that's why the center tomato

[twin heron]

I always forget the center tomato gets boosted too

[ocean wraith]

i have blueberry and spice pepper bushes but i'm prepping for some cake parties in the future for big money

tomato is swappable with napa

but again i wouldn't be harvesting those unless i'm relaying my garden out entirely

[twin heron]

My layout I posted is to get my seed stock up for those plants

But your layout is great for cake party prepping!

if you don't absolutely need every single cotton, i would use the corn layout to boost the apples

[ocean wraith]

need tons of fabric, cake party prep, and preserve potatoes for profit

i'm thinking the corn layout is better for both ease of seeds and leaving as is

[twin heron]

I think so too. I don't think losing out on a couple cotton plants will hurt your fabric/seed production in any huge way

And if you've got cake parties coming up you'll definitely want more apples than less

[ocean wraith]

right, i think i know how to fit onions in there for full afk farm too but i just don't want to.

[twin heron]

IME weeds aren't a huge issue. I think the most plants I've had with weeds at one time was 6? So not even one whole plot

[ocean wraith]

full stats (look at that 30 day profit 👀 )

[twin heron]

And that's only if you sold. Your cakes will make that skyrocket

[ocean wraith]

oh yeah

[twin heron]

I read somewhere that based on growing times and such that bok choy actually yields the most profit

[ocean wraith]

it technically does if you actively manage it

but most people don't want to actively manage as there's more to do than just gardening

realized ju st now i need to make more starred potato seeds

gonna need to make another couple of seeders just in case too

wanna see my house layout for how i'm managing my crafting/ gardening plot?

[twin heron]

I'd love to!

[ocean wraith]

add me in game (same as discord)

[twin heron]

And what do you mean actively manage?

[ocean wraith]

i'm at plot right now, actively manage means checking back everyday, harvesting asap and replanting immediately

i'm forgetful so that won't happen all the time for me

[twin heron]

aaahh

having a full time job means i can't be on every hour of every day. but when i'm in game i make sure to check my plots at 6am

[ocean wraith]

i mean ultimately as lo ng as you check between 6 am and 6 pm you'll end up getting your profit

[twin heron]

did you accept my request? you're not showing up in my list

[ocean wraith]

i did

that's a weird bug but i should be on your board

[twin heron]

let me relog

[ocean wraith]

i actually think it's me let me exit and reenter plot

[twin heron]

lol oki

[ocean wraith]

should be good now

[twin heron]

ok omw

[devout frigate]

Can someone explain what to do with starred seeds and starred crops and what the benefits are for them. I haven't unlocked preserved machine thing. But I curious what the most efficient ways are to earn money

[severe python]

is this an ok layout? is there any way to make it better? the main stuff i want is tomatos, potatos and cotton + the apples and blue berries i think

and i want full water retention

[short hound]

Cooking parties make lots if u decide to do them, most parties require starred crops so having starred crops is good

[floral talon]

Starred crops is 50% more moneys

[floral talon]

Thats an i cannot remember patterns or am super lazy at planting layout

Do every lane like how you did the left lanes harvest boost for starters

[severe python]

What's a good one to use for star?

Tbh tho I mostly use plants for passive Glow worms I prefer fishing for money

[floral talon]

Low lv layouts

Grilled fish or exces meats/mountain morel is better for glowworms

[severe python]

What's a good layout for money then (ignoring mine and starting fresh) I want everything to have water retention tho

[floral talon]

Cant coph layouts rn on phone not at home

[ocean wraith]

so this is the layout i'm using currently

you can swap one of the corner grids for a bluberry bush

and some potatoes out for tomatoes as necessary

i made this farmr cucz i didn't really need a whole lot of blueberries currently

but all of the other stuff is decent to grab

blueberries do harvest boost right?

[clear kindle]

correct

[ocean wraith]

messing around with a layout to fit in blueberries for above person

since he wants potatoes and tomatoes and cotton

[severe python]

Thanks! Yeah I can play around with this

[ocean wraith]

this

just use like 5 harvest boost fertilizers on those cocttons that don't have harvest boost and you're gold

11 potatoes 11 tomatoes, 4 apples 4 blueberries and 7 cotton

quality up fertilizer on you r apples and blueberries as well

and remembe potato seeds sell more than potato jars (4x potato seeds > 1 pickled potatoes)

so you'll keep starred apples for cake parties, jar your tomatoes and regular apples, seed your potatoes so you have ones you need and do whatever else with blueberry

[severe python]

Oh thanks this will be good

[ocean wraith]

np, thanks to @floral talon and a few ot hers in this chat i've learned MUCH about gardening in this game and become a mini expert on it

[severe python]

Nice!

[rough stirrup]

Ok I am.lv 16 with gardening and looking for a garden layout that is weed protected and preferably waterretained and also is smart for money and ingredients for cooking

[floral talon]

Request not possible u ask for everything

[ocean wraith]

so i just realizzed i need to swap out my ccorn for rice if i plan on helping p eople make sushi

[rough stirrup]

🙈 🤣 a girl can dream. I just have no idea what I am doing and what I need to do best with all the produce. Make seeds and sell? Cook and use for energy? Zo many options

[floral talon]

just start with the weavin low level layout ilo post it when i feel like it and i stop beign busy

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-Co.HSpSpCb.HSpSpPCrCo-CoAACbAAPAA-ACrPAWCbACr.HpCo-CoBBCbBBPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo
weave in low level
for low levels and u can have abit of everything for cooking

[green flicker]

My apple trees are eating up my weedblock fertilizer and then when I come back to them later they behave as if I never applied it

Does anyone know why?

[floral talon]

they consume 9 per growthtick (1 for each tile)

first growth stage needs more then the 99 u can dumpo on it since it needs 12 ticks not 11

now i dont know if they consume it aswell if they arent watered and thus not growing or if rdy to harvest and thus not growing

[green flicker]

Wow, that's so much fertilizer

Does it take less and/or last longer if I wait until it's fully grown?

[floral talon]

no it consumes the same for each growthtick besdies hte exeptions which idk about

just weed ur stuff or go for afk layout

way easier

[green flicker]

Alright, thanks

[clear kindle]

also to add, sometimes there's a bug where it will consume more fertilizer than what it's supposed to, used to have it where i would plant all 5 of my apples, apply fertilizer and then come back after an hour or two and three of them would have the correct amount of fert (90/81) and the other two would be in the 50's

[errant summit]

guys any suggetion which plant set up that can make most money income?

for newbie

[junior harness]

I googled that recently and found a few pictures of where to plant what best. Learned that tomato and potato are really good and rice/wheat. I follow a grid of all 3 planted together that I found on google.

[floral talon]

Tomatoe is a lie

[floral talon]

Low lv layouts

[floral talon]

Here

[wheat girder]

Bok choy. Make seeds en masse. Sell the seeds.

[primal arch]

how do you like this plan?

[floral talon]

inetesting low level apple layout but u still end up having to water
if u want to u can grab an afk apple layout and replace the weedblock plants with cotton for no watering

[primal arch]

still end up having to water what?

[floral talon]

all the tomatoes

mh nvm the otehr apple layouts require an equal amount of fertiliser to 100% things

[dim oasis]

If fertilizer is used every tick, for the farm I'm using do I have to apply fertilizer multiple times for it to give the increase?

[clear kindle]

for it to work 100% yes, the fert needs to be there every growth tic

but you can stack up to 99 fertilizer in the spot

[dim oasis]

Alr

Makes sense, always wondered how my fertilizer just disappeared when I applied multiple

[floral talon]

it consumes one per growth tick nto sure if its also consumed if the plant doesnt grow

[short hound]

How many growth ticks are in all the crops

[floral talon]

idk i always forget but that planner website can tell you

[ocean wraith]

level 10 gardener get

[runic nebula]

Do you guys have a nice layout for a total newbie to make some gold? Like I don't have apples nor quality ferts xd

Preeferable something I don't have to water much with my t1 water can

[floral talon]

Here @runic nebula

[foggy pasture]

i just did this, very simple for 100% water retain and 50%~ weed prevention

36 potato, 36 tomato, 9 onion

[floral talon]

That layout has 3 problems for newbies no harvest boost no quality up and 50% weedblock aint that usefull cuz then u still have to weed xd

[clear kindle]

they still need to get the achievement for weed whacking

[runic nebula]

True trueeee

[ocean wraith]

today on nonconventional layouts

@floral talon what do you think?

[floral talon]

canu repost but with fert and the %charts?

or jus send link?

[ocean wraith]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoPBkPTBOPB-OPTBAABAA-RBBABBATP-BkPSpPTSpCoPA-SpAASpPSpAASp-APCoSpTPSpPBk-PTABBABBR-AABAABTPO-BPOBTPBkPCo i don't have ferts so feel free to mess with fert as you want

[floral talon]

😄 i swear i cant do anythign productive for 5min before something interrupts me theese days at least im never ever bored

[ocean wraith]

XD

[lusty mantle]

your center potato does need to be waterd 😂

[ocean wraith]

i acknowledged that

probably use water fert there tbh XD

[lusty mantle]

hahaha understandable

[ocean wraith]

center potato is there for water retain on the spicey bushes

woah that's not actually a lot of fertilizer

[floral talon]

its a great everything layout though variants with full weedblock and less fert usage should be possible not that i will make one everything layotus are a pain screw u spicypeppers

[ocean wraith]

i'm.... impressed at myself i thought i'd need

[floral talon]

its good im only saying better ones are possible but tbf i cant make them i mean i have in the past but io messed up onsaving those ... and now i cannot reproduce it

[lusty mantle]

pretty sure it doesnt have to be there the potato can be anything XD

[ocean wraith]

XD i'm sure there are better layouts (swapping out the corner blueberry bushes for example)

[floral talon]

salty sonic you did good im proud of ya

[ocean wraith]

i was just having fun with unconventional garden design

[floral talon]

i found everything layouts so hard to do i made sure i dont need to do em instead ... lolz
fabric andspicypeppers stockpile for hte win and hte rest i dont really need many of at all naymore either cakep artys bestest food

[ocean wraith]

yeah i'm thinking a stockpile layout is ultimately better than an everything farm

[floral talon]

only everything farms that can be good (cuz completely unsynced constant harvesting times) are set and forget to basically use ur soils as a fridge but that may not fit everyones playstyle if u farm for money u do not want that

[ocean wraith]

that's very true

[floral talon]

but that still needs we need to make one very good one someday thats afk and mostest harvest boost

[ocean wraith]

i'll tinker around at some point

[floral talon]

spicypeppers and apple trees with 2x2s is what makes it so hard

[ocean wraith]

i think it would revolve around a single apple tree and 1 blueberry and 1 spicy pepper bush each

so those would be your focal points

[floral talon]

mh yeay 1 spicypepper is enough as they give tons of those things i swear farm 4 once and well thats the total amount i ever farmed cuz i never needed more

[ocean wraith]

let me...

this wo uld be the base for the everything farm

apple giving harvest boost is nice

[floral talon]

probvlem is poeple often need more then 1 apple XD but hten again wth do poeple use those blueberrys on

[ocean wraith]

cake party hosting

blueberries are required to start celebration cakes

[floral talon]

like for eal what are blues for besdies cakehosts but cake hosts already cook so much cake they dont wanna cook other stuff anymore 50% of the time mh

i htink1 spicy 2 blues 2 apples is the goal then

but i can make a 1 of the bgi plants layout first though

[ocean wraith]

if we're doing 1 spicy let me cook

i can probably actually cook with that

i'm bad at fert so once this is up i'll send to you to fertilize

[floral talon]

i mean i just hover over the pie charts and apply where its missing in order of water > weed > harvetsboost

[ocean wraith]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoPCoTRTPCoP-CCoCbPBBCoBB-PCoPCrRCbCoPCo-BkAACAAOAA-AWAATAACrA-AAOAACAABk-CoCrCoPRPCbCoT-BBCoBBRPCbP-PCoPCbSpSpCoSpSp somethlike this

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoP.HpCoTRTPCoP-CCoCbPBBCoBB-PCoPCrRCbCoP.HpCo-BkA.HpA.HpC.HpA.HpA.HpO.HpA.HpA.Hp-A.HpWAA.HpT.HpAA.HpCrA-AAO.HpAAC.HpAABk-CoCr.HpCoPRPCbCoT-BBCoBBRPCbP-PCoP.HpCbSpSpCoSpSp
mh its quiet high on fert usage though

[ocean wraith]

wait

change out that left most carrot for a water retain

a single potato

hmm

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoPCoTRTPCoP-CCoCbPBBCoBB-PCoPCrRCbCCoP-BkAAPAAOAA-AWAATAACrA-AAOAAPAABk-CbCoCPRPCbCoT-BBCoBBRPCbP-PCoPCbSpSpCoSpSp try it with this

starting to think corner apples might be better

[floral talon]

but iwht corner apples then how do u give it water retain weedblock and harvestboost

[ocean wraith]

not corner corner

[floral talon]

ic ic

[ocean wraith]

but... let me show

[floral talon]

mh 2 tiles on the side of corners yes yes

[ocean wraith]

like this (might move those blueberries 1 in to be lazy about it

this layout gives you 1 spicy and 1 blueberry touching each apple tree

and you can expand from there without too much care for the spice if necessary

actively this could work

i see fert being needed on the blueberries for at least 1 trait you care about, but beyond that it s hould be managable

[short hound]

Howdy I need a layout with Peppers and blueberries but I need lots of them

If possible :3

[floral talon]

only peppers and blueberrys and uhm how much u needing and why?

[short hound]

For cooking

[floral talon]

but like what are u gonna cook in what way (need this info to know how much u need in ur layout XD

[short hound]

Unsure yet I just wanna stockpile

[floral talon]

oh then u need 2 of each cuz they give out so much

what is your level?

[short hound]

13

[floral talon]

pok il whip a lowlevel one up for you hold on duhscape is loading

dangit just finished an afk one only ot now realise i needed to make low level one

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoCbWCrPCoWCbB-CrCbCrCoP.HCoBCb.HSp-WCbCoCoPCrSpCbW-CrCbBCoPWCrCbSp-BCb.HSpCrPCrSpCb.HB-SpCbCrWPCoBCbCr-WCbSpCrPCoCoCbW-SpCb.HBCoP.HCoCrCbCr-BCbWCoPCrWCbCo just grabbed low lv spicypeppers ones and replaced 2 peppers wiht blueberrys ...

but yeay u only need like 2 of them for a very decent stockpile that last ages

[humble sequoia]

anyone have a good boost layout for every crop, one blueberry seed, no apple ?

[winter flicker]

I like my current garden layout, it’s 100 percent water and weed but thinking of only having apples with buffs and leaving the buffs there. The apples are too profitable and I cbf dealing with planting the other crops. Plus been using my harvest boost from glow worm farm which renders them unprofitable…

Is there any way to have 5 apple trees with water weed and harvest boost 100?

[clear kindle]

i love my 4 apple 100% water/weed/harvest boost (with ferts that i don;t use). just harvest apples everything else stays in the ground unless accidentally picked. as far as a 5 apple tree, can totally be done, but need to apply fertilizers (i just did it to the apples)

4 apple layout (thanks duhscape)

5 apple layout with harvest boost only on the apples

[floral talon]

Hehe yw but if ur lazy on farming i got one that harvest noosted afk blueberrys and apples only 4 of both even more low effort xd

[clear kindle]

i'm good as i don't do cake parties or host them that the blueberries would be of use to me, but could you post that one as well, and i can show that one off when i can as well

[winter flicker]

I like this one! I don’t wanna use fertilising because it renders my glow worm farms unprofitable.

So I’ll give this a go, and try add another tree in

[smoky vessel]

Hi, can i have a look at this layout?

[severe python]

What's the best crop for lv up garding? Or do they all give the same amount of XP?

[winter flicker]

Is the fertiliser one per growth tick? So with apples it’s 12 days (growth ticks) till harvest will I need 9 lots of fertiliser per 12 days…

[loud moat]

Does anyone know if there's a ongoing bug with the flowers and when the grow tick occurs? (To my impression, it was at the same time as the gardening tick)

1 per growth tick for one slot plants, but if you're talking about 4 slot plants/9 slot trees, then it'll take 4 / 9 per tick if that makes sense (or more simply, 1 poo for 1 slot, regardless of what plant is covering it lol)

But iirc some fertilizers are bugged, especially speedgro

[winter flicker]

Yeah I have up on speedgro 😫
With apples I’ll need 9 x 12 to fulfill each growth tick? That’s so much fertiliser 😅

[clear kindle]

apples give the most per harvest (around 240 exp), however, they also take the longest to grow (12h+6h+6h+6h) the other crops could also give that much since they grow faster than the apples, you just have to harvest more often

[mystic skiff]

I can't move my damn garden. I keep seeing there is something in the way error. Bishhhjh its literally an open field.

[high gale]

are the squares of the garden still tilled? you need to wait for them to become untilled before you can move a gardening plot

[mystic skiff]

I figured it out. I searched and scrolled up a bit and saw that the silver Ling nest tree was causing it even if it's meters away. . Once I put it away in storage I can move it again

[warm tinsel]

New here, just saying hi and showing my garden.

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-BBPBBTRCbP-AAAAAAAAA-PTPBBCbBBR-AAAAAAAAA-RBBCbBBPTP-AAAAAAAAA-PCbRTBBPBB-AAAAAAAAA

[smoky vessel]

Is it possible to make it fully weed retention too?

[floral talon]

The blueberry apple one is ment for only harvesting blueberrys and apples and no

[smoky vessel]

Ok

[floral talon]

If ur looking for something specific feel free to ask

[floral talon]

I mean in hinsight u can dump lots of fert on it if u want all plants to be afk

[ocean wraith]

aesthetically this is nice, but functionally you're denying yourself so much. as long as you're happy with it though :>

[warm tinsel]

Teach me your ways o' great sage

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-bow-master-smile-gif-12365468

[ocean wraith]

what's your goal with your garden?

[wraith silo]

I don't think there's ever a perfect garden layout. Do you want more profit, more produce, less maintenance, more variety or better aesthetics.

[warm tinsel]

Funcionality and some profit.

[wraith silo]

If you find the best layout, that'll be the best layout for one point in time, but tomorrow you might want more wheat and less cotton, or more apples and fewer carrots

[warm tinsel]

I always tend to plant two rows of water retention and then whatever I'm running low on to make more seeds.

[ocean wraith]

do you have access to preserves?

if not i can try and whip up that evverything farm idea i had

[warm tinsel]

I have 3 preserve jars

currently making two stacks of preserved potatoes and one of tomatoes

Then I'll move on to blueberries. Haven't had access to apples yet

[ocean wraith]

save blueberries and apples

[floral talon]

Thats why we have more then one layout and we make perfect ones for situations

[ocean wraith]

good for cake party hosting or making

[warm tinsel]

Good to know, thanks!

[ocean wraith]

i try to keep 100 starred of each on hand

also i think tomato seeds are more valuable than preserves? i gotta redo the math on that

[warm tinsel]

Well, I'm currently making both starred seeds AND preserves so I'll get back to you on that

[dim oasis]

Are celebration cakes used for eating or selling? I'm only at 650 max focus atm so it seems like a waste for me to make them for eating

[floral talon]

Nope jars unles unjarrable bokchoi / potatoe

[floral talon]

I eat my cake

[mystic skiff]

I've gone back to bok choy industrial complex. 😭 Trying to bumrush and make fast passive gold so I can finish up my cats moselium. Question about fertilizer. Harvest boost specifically.

For the bokchoy, how many I mean to place each time I replant plant them?

[ocean wraith]

we really should make a spreadsheet on values of jar > seeds per item.

[dim oasis]

Oh alright

[wraith silo]

i am pretty sure i've seen a web page that compares preserves vs seeds prices

[mystic skiff]

There's a gold tracker app online that shows you and I think someone did some spreadsheets but idk if it's uotodate

[mystic skiff]

Yeah there is one that also compares, seed, prese vers and both worm arms.

[wraith silo]

In the early game the value matters more, but later on gold comes in faster and you can not pay attention as much

(unless you have a lucky coin addiction)

[floral talon]

Theres one on reddit but basically can u jar it yes is it bokchoi or potatoe seeds
Cotton selfuse fabric

[ocean wraith]

what's reddit?

[dim oasis]

Anyone still have that one afk blueberry and apple farm? Might start farming those only now

Iirc it was like 4 apples and 4 blueberries

[floral talon]

the most important website in the world

[ocean wraith]

amazon?

google?

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-BBPBBTRCbP-AAAAAAAAA-PTPBBCbBBR-AAAAAAAAA-RBBCbBBPTP-AAAAAAAAA-PCbRTBBPBB-AAAAAAAAA
u can mam,e it fully afk with lots of fert but its fort htose who only wanna harvest the blueberrys and apples though

[floral talon]

wait poeple actually use amazon?
google doesnt work since seos and ai content

[dim oasis]

Is there one with harvest, water, and weed?

[floral talon]

the one i send but wiht ltos of fertiliser

[dim oasis]

Alr

[ocean wraith]

no quality upj?

[floral talon]

what

[ocean wraith]

the garden lol

[floral talon]

ok plz be specific in ur questions so i understand what ur saying

[ocean wraith]

meant to reply to the afk garden not the amazon post

and plenty of people use amazon

[dim oasis]

Oh yeah, do plants need to be watered or weeded for them to give the buff?

[floral talon]

u cannot use afk and quality up not without covering almost every plant with fert unles u ditch harvest boost but why do that
its basically hte limit of what can be done

[ocean wraith]

i guess, idk i think i'd probably onlny do 2 blueberry bushes and 4 apple trees

[floral talon]

try to rush obtaining 100% starred spicy peppers and lv25 with lots of cotton first after that u get more freedom as u stop needing quality up

[wraith silo]

this is my basic layout https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-BBPBBTRCbP-AAAAAAAAA-PTPBBCbBBR-AAAAAAAAA-RBBCbBBPTP-AAAAAAAAA-PCbRTBBPBB-AAAAAAAAA I like it because almost all the rest of the tiles can be planted in pairs, there's just going to be one lonely one.

[floral talon]

thats a great layout for the not quality up or weedblock players

[wraith silo]

depending how you plant it you can get it for no fertilizer, but i have to buy something from zeki every day so it's usually fertilizer

and i gave up on speedygro

[floral talon]

yeay dont use that unles ur some xp speedrunner

[wraith silo]

i'm at gardening 212, i dont think i need any more xp!

[floral talon]

it caps at 9999 and apparently a hgihscore system exists somewhere

[warm tinsel]

All starred btw

Seeds sell for more, I can't believe it

[ocean wraith]

there's a thing about amount of tomatoes used per jar vs tomatoes used per seed

[floral talon]

again u seed bokchoi and potatoes the rest goes jar and cotton is self use fabric and rice/wheat can only be seeded

dont need spreadsheet is just one sentence

[warm tinsel]

run-on sentence

[ocean wraith]

@floral talon https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoPCbBBPBBCo-AAAAAAAAA-BBCoBBPCoPCb-AAAAAAAAA-RCbCoCbPCbCoCbR-AAAAAAAAA-CbPCoPBBCoBB-AAAAAAAAA-CoBBPBBCbPCo no anti-weed in this one but it's still full afk and blueberries and apples have harvest and quality upgrades and you get napa and rice for sushi

rice is swappable with corn or wheat

bonuse you still get cotton for fabric

and the cotton is harvest boosted

[floral talon]

u mean if u put weedblock on everything?

[ocean wraith]

yeah there's no weedblock crops in there but it's full afk

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-Co.WP.WCb.WB.WB.WP.WB.WB.WCo.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-B.WB.WCo.WB.WB.WP.WCo.WP.WCb.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-R.WCb.WCo.WCb.WP.WCb.WCo.WCb.WR.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-Cb.WP.WCo.WP.WB.WB.WCo.WB.WB.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-Co.WB.WB.WP.WB.WB.WCb.WP.WCo.W

yeay ur right nice nice uc an have evrything but takes tons of fert XD

[ocean wraith]

that's what i think the rice is for

weed fert on glow worm farm

[floral talon]

(glow)worms can only make quality up and harvest boost htough but hten again those are hte best fo rmost poeple

[ocean wraith]

true, regular worms make which ones again?

worm farms also do both

[floral talon]

quality up and harvest boost

[ocean wraith]

rip we need an anti-weed farm

a compost box would be nice

[floral talon]

weedbloock is just a trip to zeki and its cheapre then sell value of harvestboost

[ocean wraith]

mmm that works out then

with a lil bit of market manipulation you can make this a 100% afk farm

[floral talon]

done that

[ocean wraith]

all it took was removing 1 apple tree and making it a 4 apple 4 bush farm

[floral talon]

but its kinda more effort to put fert on every spot then its to just pluck weed in my opinion

[ocean wraith]

agreed, but if you're hellbent on not revisiting home for a while just use fert

[floral talon]

i already corrected myself on the u cant make it afk by editing it with unles tons of fert

[ocean wraith]

else some point during the day de-weed

potatoes are jar for profit or seed for profit?

[floral talon]

seed most profit unles ur run into crafters not keeping up

[ocean wraith]

i see, i've been using potatoes in the wrong thing then (oof) it's okay though i'll take the loss

[floral talon]

its mroe ocnvenietn to jar everyhting as u dont have to pslit the stacks and u get less stacks back so u dotn end up with having to storage things before u can sell it cuz sell bin gets full ...

[ocean wraith]

yeh

i'vve figured 40 potato seeds at any given time is usually enough

[floral talon]

but normal playstyles should adhere to that one shorthand sentence of what goes where

[ocean wraith]

trying to keep 40 of each seed in general is a ddecent way to operate

[floral talon]

yeay keep in stock the most ul replant at a time

[ocean wraith]

the rest is sell

[floral talon]

multy stage harvests can be less inst ock as the first harvest can be ur reseed

[ocean wraith]

i keep 20 per plant, and when i plant i get to keep 20, this also lets me make another 20 for storage

if i plant more than the 20 it still works out with 40 cuz i just replace what i need

[wraith silo]

this is my garden layout today https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-Sp.HSp.HP.HSp.HSp.HCb.HC.HO.HCo.H-CAAOAABk.HpAA-AP.WT.WABBABB-CbTP.WAAAAAA-BBCbBBCBkTSp-TCO.HpO.HCo.HpCo.HpSpCr.HpW.Hp-AAAC.HpBBO.HpBB-OP.HSpCbCRTOCr-SpO.HpBk.HpT.WSp.HSp.HCb.WSp.HSp.H

[ocean wraith]

i see you generating more blueberries than apples, but as far as an everything farm goes, this isn't bad.

[wraith silo]

I like to have a bit of everything growing

[ocean wraith]

apples not having quality up is a bit saddening, same with blue berries

[floral talon]

versions with less fert should be possible but this does the job

[wraith silo]

they come out quality anyway

[ocean wraith]

what's your gardening level?

[wraith silo]

212

[ocean wraith]

oh, yeah you don't even need quality up at that point

carry on

[floral talon]

at that point u should have runb out of stuff to need money for lol

[ocean wraith]

XD

[wraith silo]

pretty much, except i keep building new plots!

[floral talon]

mh if u ever need true bulk money palia party app epic fish cookoffs 😉

[wraith silo]

i have made two giant cake kitchens.. but never have any cake parties

it's just a challenge to think how to design things

[floral talon]

in my opinon cake is for food and epic fish cook offs are for moneys

[wraith silo]

for me the fun of the gardening was learning which plants go with which other ones, as following a specific layout all the time would just be a chore

[primal junco]

Someday when the update comes with more crops, I want pumpkins. Along with the quality boost effect like cotton.

[wheat girder]

so i think fertlizer ticks down whether you're online or not, unlike your crops which only go 1 cycle when you're offline

so if you log off with 5 stacks of fertlizer on your crops, your crops only advance one day but the fertlizer ticks down like you were logged on the whole time

i put 5 stacks of fertilizer on my crops and logged off last night, this afternoon the crops had advanced 1 cycle but the fertilizer was gone on my crops

[floral talon]

fert can bug and blueberry/apple consume more
but this hsouldnt have happened fert is normally only consumed on growth tick

[wheat girder]

yeah all i plant is bok choy, i monitored it this time to be sure: Fertilizer was consumed every palian day i was offline even though my crops only advanced one cycle.

[floral talon]

Did u dump 100s of fert on one soil?

[wheat girder]

Nope, 5 stacks each, all bok choy

[floral talon]

mh strange that should not be enought ocause bugs

[primal sluice]

hey all! trying to level up my gardening, but it takes fooooorever! Wanting to know if you guys have any plot layouts that may be better for leveling than the one Im using - this is myh current gardening layout with harvest boost fert on the corners that dont get the buff already

[floral talon]

lv?

[primal sluice]

like level? Im currently 38 trying to get to 50

[floral talon]

mwah ur good ur layout works for that though i get dizzy replanting bullseye layouts

[primal sluice]

lol thats fair! I often misplant and have to hoe up the seeds lol but I have plenty so Im not too worried about it. ty !!

[floral talon]

also i personalyl would go for something with abunch of apples so u gotto put less work in

and harvest boost dont matter for xp so xp layouts can be just pure lazyness

[primal sluice]

oh fr? good to know. Cheers!

[floral talon]

like some poeple start to use just afk apples at that point like a LIna layout or L shape one cuz htey only care about XP XD

[brazen sorrel]

for some reason i though i could duplicate my farming plots to a second plot but i guess im wrong?

[floral talon]

no but if u ever do duplicate em rule 8 of hte server

[brazen sorrel]

I would never break rules it was just a question that’s all. So sorry

[floral talon]

oh i just dont want u in trouble is all we all good

hate ofr u to get banned from th e discord (but uf irst get like 3 warnings so its fine ... u dont wann aknow how i found out)

[cedar yacht]

finally

[cedar yacht]

i do wish we had like, waaaay more possible farming slots, even if they costed like 350k a piece by now

maybe by next big content update alongside hopefully bigger chests, constantly peaking at 9,5k

[short hound]

I really wish they would implement crops growing more than 1 tick when you’re offline

It makes it fair for the folk who can’t be on everyday

[cedar yacht]

would be nice if you had fully afk setups that the AFK able crops would grow

like, full weed protect full water retain crops

[clear kindle]

one reason i like the switch, can keep it turned on and afk by your garden and just have to move the joystick every so often to keep being active in the game. still can do my 7 hour day diamond painting and still get my apples to grow

[short hound]

I needa find a way to do it on of

Pc but still crops should grow

[runic nebula]

Heey guys, I've got a question. If I use fert harvest boost on a crop that is boosted by rice, does it improve the harvest even more?

[clear kindle]

nope, waste of fertilizer as the crop's buff takes priority

[mystic skiff]

Damn this gold cap. 😭 Back to hoarding apple seeds again I guess.

[mystic skiff]

Same more plot and active ticking would be so great for those of us obsessed farming 😭 like make it stupid expensive to get extra soil plot or make it use very rare materials to trade in

I wouldn't even mind it if they were say afraid of people making too much gold from it. That the game takes tax or diminishing % of gold when you reach a certain point.

[opaque barn]

It would be kind of cool if they would allow secondary plots (or gardens beyond the 9) to have decor-only gardens where plants could be grown and left fully ripe to decorate with but you couldn't harvest them. Or all you get back is the seed in case you want to swap things out.

[floral talon]

U can make 340.000 coins per hour in this game though

[cold ore]

Hey guys! Does anyone know what the best layout would be for tomatoes, onions, wheat, and potatoes? I only make tomato soup to refill focus. Potatoes for profit and of course any extra of the other veggies (normally keep 15 of each for cooking the soup). Or does anyone have any other ideas to make sure I get those cooking veggies while also optimizing the buddy system? TIA, I know it’s a lot.

[floral talon]

what is ur current gardening level?

[mystic skiff]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-1000-1000-1000-1000-1000-1111_CROPS-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-CbPCbA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HCbPCbA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HCbPCb-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-CbA.HA.HPA.HA.HCbA.HA.H-A.HCbA.HA.HPA.HA.HCbA.H-A.HA.HCbA.HA.HPA.HA.HCb

Since I'm at the gold cap and Halloween events for my other games are ramping up, I thought I'd build an aesthetic garden with apple trees in the meantime. I want to use cotton but I really don't have the time to water them.

[floral talon]

mostest apples with fert and water retain nice

[floral talon]

what is your gardening level?

[ocean wraith]

@floral talon how's this for a bit of an everything farm?

prioritizing apple trees, and 2 of each bush design

wheat and rice are interchcangable with corn and each other

and cotton at some point can be swapped out for a bit of deweeding

not that i would swap out cotton XD

[cold ore]

52 🪴

[floral talon]

nice ncie

[floral talon]

ok u can grab one of those low level farms wiht lots of cotton and swap out hte cotton for onions

[cold ore]

Okay so the low level gardening grid and swap cotton for onions right?

[floral talon]

yeay im making one rn

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-OWPTCrTPWO-OWPTCrTPWO-OWPTCrTPWO-OWPTCrTPWO-OWPTCrTPWO-OWPTCrTPWO-OWPTCrTPWO-OWPTCrTPWO-OWPTCrTPWO

@cold ore this what u want right

[cold ore]

Yes! And I can sell the corn. Thank you!

So get rid of my trees though right?

[floral talon]

i picekd corn as second harvest buff cuz it lines up with potatoe harvest times and tis easier to process then rice

[floral talon]

uhm u didnt say u wanted to use trees

[cold ore]

Sorry. It was early this morning lol. I just use trees to sell or make glow worms. I’m semi new and have just been throwing veggies all of the place with no rhyme or reason lol

[floral talon]

for worms grill ur fish same types so it stacks and dont accidentally grill ur rare/epics /trouts

for worms dump ur not starred meat in there 24/7 works to

[cold ore]

Oh I thought you needed sweet things for glow worms. I’m a dummy lol

[floral talon]

nah sweet is for quality up fert

[floral talon]

but now ur an educated dummy 😉

[cold ore]

Ohhhh and you don’t need that for starred veggie seeds! I got it! Thank you so much for your time and patience with me!! ♥️

[floral talon]

is all good ur just abit unstructured so i had to read ur first question 3 times ...

[cold ore]

Because I needed more sleep lol. 😂

[floral talon]

ul be good for now right

[cold ore]

Oh yeah! I literally just learned how to use fertilizer and you could see the number of fertilizer on switch 2 days ago. I was just throwing it everywhere 😂

[floral talon]

if u got any more gardening related questions/talks feel free to do that here

[cold ore]

Will do! 🙂

[ocean wraith]

i just now realized

my 1 potato in my corner slots can be anything

current layout, the top most and bottom most potatoes could be replaced with onion, carrot, or any other single crop since i don't need water retain there

which means i could do bock choy, onion, carrot, and corn in those slots pretty easily

this allows a nice non-bush farm layout

[floral talon]

i mean we got a fully afk 4 apples layout to with everything harvest buffed

but u got the right mindset

[mystic skiff]

If they let me buy as many garden plots as I can afford, I'd build a whole orchard. 😭 😭

[floral talon]

dude il fill one entire plot lol (of course with lazy afk harvest boosted apples)

and this is precisely why they wont give us more then 9

but if u need just LOTS AND LOTS of money u may wanna talk to ren at cooking-foraging how to make mostest cooking hehe
340.000 coins per hour are possible lmao

[mystic skiff]

You can make money from foraging? 🤯

[floral talon]

COOKING-foraging

[feral tree]

hey guys! idk if it's already pinned here, but what is a good garden layout for maximized profits? im always running into gold issues lol

[torpid night]

mining is also good for gold, if you mae an ore compass you can also hopefully collect starstones!

[velvet carbon]

Hi is 9 still the max number of gardening plots we can have? Or is there a way to increase it now?

[smoky vessel]

Only 9

[floral talon]

mining is actually quiet bad for gold

[floral talon]

depends on to many factors but if u want max tryhard its 2/3 bokchoi

[plush finch]

My friend has access up to blueberries and likes to farm bok choi, does anyone have a good farm for max quality, and harvest? Weeds/hydration doesnt matter as mch

[floral talon]

quality whats his lv?

[plush finch]

her level is 9

she's super close to level 10

[feral tree]

what does that look like for a layout? :0

[floral talon]

line of bokchoi line of hjarvest buff and line of bokchoi

but on lower levels u want some cotton mixed in to buff quality

[humble sequoia]

just got my first apple seed 🙏

[feral tree]

gotcha, im not super low level im just trying to max profits atm :p so will prob do hydration or quality

[floral talon]

sub lv25 need low level layouts

cuz they need quality up while above lv25 u always get starry produce anyways

[novel wave]

so, i finaaly got all 9 weeds on the middle row so i could leave them there forever but from things ive heard i was worried that would cause my garden to break. i am happy to report however that my apples have grown for harvest so so far so good

[floral talon]

breaks once u get 9weeds

i can tell u when it glitches
offline growth ticks stop being processed online only when on plot

if u leave plot after a growth tick the growth will be reverted by 1 (unles u harvested or something as that saves it)

unles they patched it so keep testing it

u need to be on plot and then manualkly cause an update to the plot

[novel wave]

i got all 9 weeds last night and then was offline for almost 12hrs. this morn ive been back n forth between plots. but yes.......definitely need to keep an eye on it. it should be 3hrs i believe until the next harvest. if that one doesnt come round then i guess ill know it is actually broken

[floral talon]

ty keep us updated i blame devs for not putting this in bug list my ticket said just go weed it

[novel wave]

but strategic weeds S6 come on!

[floral talon]

Heya Scape,

Thanks for the update! The knapweeds are not supposed to be kept in our soil plots as they can cause damage to our healthy plots. You're supposed to remove them as soon as you see them so that your crops can continue growing. 😭️ Weeds can be sold for a small sum of gold coins, or kept for future purposes.

But, if you would like to keep them for decorative purposes then you are welcome to do so, it's just that, since it's a pesky weed, it's still going to affect the crops around the area where the knapweeds are. 😓️

I am amazed at this experiment though! Thank you for taking the time to write out your thoughts on your experience with Palia's gardening mechanics. If possible, would you be able to submit this feedback to our survey as well? This will ensure that your feedback makes it to the right team. The survey can be found here.

Please feel free to use that survey link for any feedback that you have.

Feel free to let me know in a new ticket if there's anything else that I can help you with.
Additionally, please check out our Bulletin Board for our known bugs and issues. 😊

Stay warm and comfy!

my response for player supporting it

so let us know if it remains broken i think the guy who made the farming stuf got a different job though

[plush finch]

whats the best Bok Choi farm set up?

[floral talon]

well u got mostest bokchoi without fert
u got slightly less but way easier to seed
u got mostest afk bokchoi
mostest afk bokchoi without fert
mostest afk bokchoi with quality up

[plush finch]

afk no fert?

[floral talon]

is that the one u want?

[plush finch]

I guess? lol if I could get a link to all of them to weigh the options that would be amazing

[floral talon]

idk lets star with what ur level anyways

[floral talon]

oof yeay uneed lower level

gotto get that quality up in the layout to then kinda hard to get it afk without tons of fert ifd thats ok with u

[plush finch]

this is what i have been doing

[floral talon]

thats like realyl really bad for lower levels

u get almost 0 quality up

[plush finch]

I use fert on everything there though

[floral talon]

oh then u dont use that layout u use a version of it but with fert

[plush finch]

Ive only been playing like a week so I'm not too advanced into it all lol been trying to do what ever makes money

I buy mushrooms and throw in the glow worm farms, turn the apples, blueberries, cotton, and tommatoes to seeds and sell

[floral talon]

dont owrry u came to just hte right place we can teach you

ok so lower levels need quality up still cuz it improves star chances and starred stuff is just 50% better

thi s ironically makes lwoer level layouts way harder then higher level ones ...

[plush finch]

yeah i typically alwauys use quality up fert on most things that dont get the buff from other plants

[floral talon]

ok il send u some examples of lower level layouts first then k

[plush finch]

sure

[feral tree]

ah ok, will do bok choi and cotton then - thx for the help!

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoRCbTWTCbRCo-NWNNCrNNWN-CoRTCbWCoTRCb-CoRCbTWTCbRCo-NCrNNWNNNN-CoRTCbWCoTRCb-CoRCbTWTCbRCo-NNNNNNNNN-CoRTCbWCoTRCb
example patterns for low level

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-Co.HSpSpCb.HSpSpPCrCo-CoAACbAAPAA-ACrPAWCbACr.HpCo-CoBBCbBBPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo-CoCrPCbWCbPCrCo
weave in low level

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoCbWCrPCoWCbSp-CrCbCrCoP.HCoSpCb.HSp-WCbCoCoPCrSpCbW-CrCbSpCoPWCrCbSp-SpCb.HSpCrPCrSpCb.HSp-SpCbCrWPCoSpCbCr-WCbSpCrPCoCoCbW-SpCb.HSpCoP.HCoCrCbCr-SpCbWCoPCrWCbCo
example with spicy peppers but uses fert

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-RCbCoCrPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR-RCbCoCrPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR-RCbCoCrPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR-R.HCbCoCoPCrCoCbR
more cotton

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoCrCbPRCoCbCrCo-PCrCoCoRPCoCrP-CoCrCb.HpCbRCoCbCrCo-CoCrCbCb.HpRCoCoCrCb-PCrCoCoRPPCrCo-CoCrPCbR.QCb.QCoCrP-CbCrCoPRCoCoCrCb-CoCrPCoRPPCrCo-CbCrCoCbRCoCoCrCb.Hp
more cotton nr2

[novel wave]

haha i love how youve worded these options

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111111111_CROPS-CbPCoCrRCrCo.HpCoCb-CoCbPCrRCrPCoCo-CoCoCbCrRCrCbPCo-PCoCoCrRCrCoCbP-CbPCoCrRCrCoCoCb-CoCbPCrRCrPCoCo-CoCoCbCrRCrCbPCo-PCoCoCrRCrCoCbP-CbPCoCrRCrCoCoCb.Hp
Lane maximum star quality for only 2 water retain fert can swap water retain with harvest boost aswell if u prefer other fert

[plush finch]

im confused, cause why does my layout say its generating 64,000g and the last one you posted says like 14,000

[floral talon]

u can alter settings of amount of days and ur level and what u process the produce into

but 6.5k per day is the maximum u can get mor elike 6100 cuz gotto substract fert cost

[torpid night]

not for me at least

also definitions can vary depending on how far youre into the game

[novel wave]

hmmm it will actually be 5hrs till i know if my garden is broken, my memory and my maths were wrong lol

[floral talon]

u get there

[floral talon]

how much does mining make per hour?

[torpid night]

oh gosh its all luck

but usually per trip that I make which is around 2 ore compasses

upwards of 10k usually

but thats for me and its like a rough average

[tame fable]

Imo mining is bad source of money if you still want to keep your irons/copper and gems, if not it is a pretty solid way to make money

[floral talon]

how long does that trip take?

[torpid night]

I keep my ore and usually just sell gems, random bugs I catch, random magical creature drops

Id say like anywhere from 20-40mins maybe, Im not the best source tho cause my ability to track time is pretty bad

[floral talon]

but if some of u guys need SUPER MUCH MONEY i know how to get it hehe 😈 it snot rule8 stop giving me warnings

[floral talon]

thats still kinda bad

[torpid night]

wdym?

[floral talon]

well most other things are just way more money XD

[torpid night]

again it varries on if its good for how far you are into the game

10k is a lot to me rn

[floral talon]

i mean glowworms and attending cooking partys and flowtree partys

[floral talon]

oh im mnot saying u shouldnt do it also keep ur starry gems and every gem above uncommon ur gopnn a need em at some point XDF

[torpid night]

Im done participating in this convo

[floral talon]

wasnt dissing u though btw but yes lets keep this gardening channel about gerdening

[severe python]

Is there any Benifits to intentionally leveling up farming (past level 10) or should it just be something I do passively

[tame fable]

For me the last level thing that you can buy in the farming guild is so cute I want to buy it, but other than that I feel like there is nothing much

[severe python]

What lv is that?

[tame fable]

20 but the price is insane

[severe python]

Jeeze

[last nacelle]

hey guys im new to gardening here, can anyone give a detailed list on which crops best to goes to preserve and sell as seeds?

[floral talon]

Higher star chance of produce

[floral talon]

If u can jar it jar it unles bokchoi/potato those are seeds and cotton is self use as fabric

[last nacelle]

hey, potato goes from 45 to 65 in a jar, isn’t that a nice profit margin? or is there another reason to sell as a seeds?

[floral talon]

Seeds is way more but does take way more crafter time and is more effort to dump in and sell

[last nacelle]

ohh thank youu so much!

[lean anchor]

whats the best things to pickle profit wise

and does quality effect the quality of your preserves

[floral talon]

star produce makes star products only in cooking it works weird

[lean anchor]

thanks :)

[ocean wraith]

hmmmm

silly lvl 25 farm capitalizing on profits from blueberries and apples (no need for quality or water retain as this is an active water every day farm)

full harvest, 100% quality from being lvl 25, and really it's a variety of the other harvesters

[frosty veldt]

whats a good farm to just spam fast EXP so i can get to my quality always being star?

I was going to plant some apples since Im lv12 now but I feel like they will grow so slow i wont get as much exp?

[mystic skiff]

@weary venture my apple layout I mentioned, I like how they look on my plot mode decorative. And I have since moved on to preserving as seeding has too much clogging and I can't be bothered to log in so often.

This one has no weed control.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-1000-1000-1000-1000-1000-1111_CROPS-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-CbTCbA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HCbTCbA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HCbTCb-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-CbA.HA.HTA.HA.HCbA.HA.H-A.HCbA.HA.HTA.HA.HCbA.H-A.HA.HCbA.HA.HTA.HA.HCb.

This one has weed control.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-10000-10000-10000-10000-11111_CROPS-Bk.HO.HBk.HCbTCbA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HBkOBk-CbTCbA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HBkOBkCbTCb-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-BkCbA.HOTA.HBkCbA.H-A.HA.HBkA.HA.HOA.HA.HBk-CbA.HA.HTA.HA.HCbA.HA.H-A.HBkCb.HA.HOT.HA.HBkCb.H

[weary venture]

Thank you so much for sending this to me

[mystic skiff]

Welcome

Happy to share more whacky layouts. It's a fun layout to use cause you can wrap it around the edge of your property on a corner or around one of your houses or the new greenhouse

[weary venture]

Yeah I will definitely look up more layouts

[floral talon]

For just xp weedblock waterretain so when u miss a growthtick maintenance stuff keeps growing

[mystic skiff]

Speedy grow fix when singularity? 🤣🤣 I wanna see my garden grow

[floral talon]

Never

[hoary forge]

if I upgrade my hoe, does my ground stay hoed longer between plantings?

[novel wave]

Afaik the hoe just becomes more efficient

[mystic skiff]

Yups more efficient, ei you need less swipes to till the tile.

[winter flicker]

It doesn’t even make the garden grow faster 😅

[mystic skiff]

If only it would work. 😭 😭

[winter flicker]

Would make it a lot easier 😫 I just wanna grow stuff fast and I’m unable to be on all day for it to grow. The description barely makes sense to me

[mystic skiff]

Yeah and it would make clearing those few stragglers when you want to clear the garden.

[hollow drum]

I've been looking at farming plots, trying to get something nice and aesthetic and not completely cursed with crops put down in almost random spots for water/weed coverage.
The closest I've got so far for my 6x6 plot is: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11-11_CROPS-CoTCOPRCTC-OTCoWPOOTC-CoOPTCRPOP-TOCoWCTTOP
Does anyone have any nicer-looking crop plans?

[floral talon]

do u need it full afk?
cuz for low levels harvest boost and quality up are wy more important

this is whats recommended for beginners btw

of course u can swap same buff plants out but i picked easiest to plant and most in sync harvest times

[hollow drum]

I thought so for maximum ignoring, but if I'm going back every day pretty much to offload items or replant, weeding is no biggie. Watering is the bit that takes time.
Thanks!

[floral talon]

i mean u need to check to hgarvest anyways might aswellweed

[floral talon]

where harvest buff?

oh but u can do that with harvest buff quality up
and full water retain

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111111111_CROPS-CrWCoCbTCbCoBkCr-BkCrWCbTCbWCoBk-CoBkCrCbTCbCrWCo-WCoBkCbTCbBkCrW-CrWCoCbTCbCoBkCr-BkCrWCbTCbWCoBk-CoBkCrCbTCbCrWCo-WCoBkCbTCbBkCrW-CrWCoCbTCbCoBkCr how about this

[twin burrow]

that's perfect thank you!

[floral talon]

onceu can ditch the cotton u can make it afk XD and then u can swap all buff plants aorund however u want and go 100% on all buffs with 4 ferts on the corners

[floral talon]

uhm i mean your welcome XD

[cedar yacht]

its cool.

also the well actually works as a water source you can place to fill your watering can

[hidden granite]

hey is there a resource or some pic or something of whether or not certain crops are worthwhile to be seeds vs preserved?

[patent gyro]

I think someone made a spreadsheet about this before, I'll see if I can find it!

[patent gyro]

I've been using this one, the final column is the one that should tell you which is better as seeds or preserves: https://www.reddit.com/r/Palia/s/CiaKT7lxwl

[hidden granite]

ugh it's a webp image. i'll quickly convert it, but thank you yes that's exactly something i saw and then forgot to save

[stable ginkgo]

https://www.aqajj.net/palia-notes
Here is my breakdown of the profits. It will let you customize it to your situation. There’s also a video that helps explain everything. And there’s probably more info than you need.

[hollow drum]

Learning seeds are worth more than crops is 🤯
Need to get more crafters so I can stop buying seeds...

[mystic skiff]

@floral talon I have a brain teaser garden plot for you to cook up.

1. L Shaped, 5x4, 6x3, it doesnt matter too much just relatively L shape.
2. 100% water.
3. Bokchoy as the main crop.

No need for harvest boost, I have a ton of leftover harvest fertilizer from my common fishes.

[floral talon]

Ok that one is ez midlane waterretain pairs sides bokchoi

[toxic siren]

ive given up trying to keep my garden organised lol - i just planted an apple tree in the middle, some blueberry bushes, a chilli bush and whatever other seeds i could find

[floral talon]

its really not difficult once u get it unles everything layouts GRRR

[toxic siren]

its very calming doing my gardening on palia, if nothing else

[floral talon]

if ur not satisfied with ur garden feel free to give some info on ur situation and what u want and il make u a layout (aslong as its not everything farms GRR)

[proud fjord]

it’s super cute! is it purely decorative? you can’t plant in it can you?

[cedar yacht]

its decorative, but it works well as decoration adding to a greenhouse greenhouse'y ness

[proud fjord]

ya, for sure.. I can’t wait to get one! I’ve almost saved up enough for a well, going to get that first.. but it’s next on my want list

[mystic skiff]

Yeah sometimes you gotta just feel for a bit and you'd get into the groove that's right for you.

[mystic skiff]

I put it in my processing house 😂 the walls are green with tomatoes so it's kinda green. 😭

[cedar yacht]

love my sale days

still saving up my apple jams to mass sell

[floral talon]

how i make my money lately hehe

one session of epic fish sushi party

[cedar yacht]

nice

[floral talon]

so if farming isnt enough i can set u up on epic fish partys

[cedar yacht]

no thanks i like the slow and comfy grind

still got this to sell, and i dont really got anything else i need to buy

also continuously selling bok choy seeds

[floral talon]

thats ok and whatever u do gardening on the side is still best

[cedar yacht]

i dont do anything on the side, i am chill relaxo gamer got no quests left to do, no real need to buy anything, and my house is already massive,

and i am maxed out on focus capacity and focus bonus

[floral talon]

how can u not need more moneys XD but take ur time those zeki coin plushes will come eventually

[cedar yacht]

got quite a few plushies

[floral talon]

paliatracker to c if u got em all XD

[cedar yacht]

i know i aint got them all, aint got any of the huge plushies like maji or frogbert, etc

but eh, i can wait. all i have to spend money on is more zeki coins

[floral talon]

alot of plushes arent obtianable atm

[signal moon]

can you teach me?

[wide flint]

How do you make those? What level do I have to be of what skill?

[manic meteor]

Gardening level 8 for pickling/jam making

[opaque barn]

I wouldn't be able to wait to sell my jams in bulk, I sell them right away.

[cedar yacht]

what Nostalgia said, you need preserve jars, i got 16 of those on my plot

[floral talon]

Paliapartyapp website

[signal moon]

okayy

[floral talon]

For epic fish partys u wanna farm some rice and onions though

[hollow drum]

Apples - wait for late game and buy a seed with tokens, hope for a Lucky Box drop, or can I Request a seed?

[floral talon]

What is ur gardening lv?

[hollow drum]

5?

I've just got a quest for petit fours and need some fruit now.

[floral talon]

U get some seeds eventually by leveling

[floral talon]

Or u make someone else cook it with u xd

[patent gyro]

If you need someone to cook petit fives with, I'm online rn

[cursive venture]

Is this a good layout? I'm level 25 gardening, wondering if the apples on the sides will all be starred?

[floral talon]

no apples need to border 3 of em to get buff from a plant

[cursive venture]

The seeds are starred, does that help?

[long mural]

Anyone know why my prep table won't let me prep Saruk meat?

[floral talon]

did u put it on starred stuff but then only have starred meats that arent sernuk? so it only allows selecting the not sernuk in that case lockbox the not sernuk

[long mural]

maybe

[floral talon]

this is kinda more of a cooking question though

[long mural]

I was asked to ask here tbf

[cursive venture]

It was directed to me

[floral talon]

starred seeds quality up and ur level affect star chances

[long mural]

And where it says prep station is from me clicking on the ingredients required for the recipe through my stove

[elfin lantern]

they’re already at lvl 25. iirc at that level all harvested crops will be starred ? or am i wrong

[floral talon]

yeay starred seeds star produce only at lv25 and 38 for unstarred seeds but it scales so if ur 24 u can ditch quality up probs

[cursive venture]

Is this better?

[cursive venture]

So I dont need quality up crops?