#šŸŒ±ā”‚gardening

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reef coral
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on the garden planner site, what does the water retain mean exactly? like I have 100% water retain but idk what that does... I'm guessing just makes it to where I don't have to water my crops?

muted spear
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exactly

vernal bluff
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Well, Iā€™m glad that you found a way to do it then1155

orchid wyvern
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Still trying to read and retain all this info holy, never been great at Math personally but putting together a plan with all info provided is nuts

vernal bluff
orchid wyvern
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Honestly I never thought I'd get into this game as a main game, was only playing it to fill time for other releases currently but my god, the addiction has kicked in hard

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@wary finch Your layour still causes you to go back to your Plot every 6am tick to water still correct?

umbral hound
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So 2x2 and 3x3 crops require 2 and 3 types of crops on it to a get a certain bonus?

vernal bluff
umbral hound
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So glad I'm not lv 10 yet

vernal bluff
# umbral hound

If u put two in the middle youā€™ll have them both boosted

umbral hound
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so I don't have to worry about this smuk or what not

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Currently the setup I'm using, cuz water retain is ashurachefskiss

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2.4k anit a lot sadly

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So yield > quality?

reef coral
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so does 100 water retain make it so you don't have to water your crops at all after you water them once?

umbral hound
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Seems like I lose profit on quality (Cotton) than yield (Rice/Wheat)

umbral hound
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same as harvest bonus, every crop benefits from yield

reef coral
umbral hound
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Is there any known list of all the gold profits on crops?

tame hinge
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this is what ive been running for cake parties

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complete water retain

umbral hound
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Cake parties?

steel kelp
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Does anyone have a garden plan to accommodate Napa Cabbage, Bok Choy, and Spicy Peppers??

honest fulcrum
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Does harvesting get better if I wait? I don't understand why it says "harvest day 15" when a lot of it is ready to harvest on the next day or so

tame hinge
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probably could move stuff around to get full water retention if you want it completely afk

blazing ridge
keen lodge
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water retain but needs water

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muted spear
honest fulcrum
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So whys it say that then

muted spear
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to give you an idea of how much you get after 15 days
you can switch to day by day view if you prefer

vernal bluff
wary finch
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I will use a different approach which might be easier to understand: if I just see the transition of a starred apple to glow worms and speedygro fertilizer, and compare the way via apple jam vs. to use an apple directly, the math is this. With using the apple directly, I get 14g profit per time unit, with the way via jam I use 2.27 time units and get 21,85g profit per time unit, so it seems to be more, but I used 2 crafters, and any crop which would create 8g or more profit per time unit in another crafter, would raise my profit per time unit nevertheless - and most crop does this, so I am better off like this.

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I can process more per time unit and can play for a longer amount of time without to fill up everything to the brim - win-win.

vernal bluff
# wary finch I will use a different approach which might be easier to understand: if I just s...

If you look at it like: apple to jam, jam to worms compared to apples to worms, than yes, but I was comparing apples to worms vs. apples jams (and just sell the jams). Making jams and worms is only 16 mins difference I believe (donā€™t have the times with me) but more than half defference. Why donā€™t u want to build more jam makers and just sell jams instead? Or would it still be too much apples?

wary finch
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I do that too, in the time where my blueberry bushes regrow, I throw apples into the blueberry jars, ofc.

vernal bluff
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Apples into blueberry jars? What do u mean by that?

wary finch
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I have 8 jars for blueberry processing, but whilst the blueberry bushes regrow after replanting, they are empty and can be used for something else, I often process corn or other stuff in it or apples, if I have a lot of them, which I want to be immediately processed.

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I juggle with my crafters, if I don't need to cut wood into planks or smelt metal, I just put them away and replace them by seeders or jars, dependent on what needs to be processed.

vernal bluff
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Processing is also faster

wary finch
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but I cannot eat seeds, whereas I can eat jam.

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and it is rather cheap food, 88g iirc.

vernal bluff
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Ohhh, you eat them

wary finch
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sell or eat

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or pickled corn, that is what my corn is for.

vernal bluff
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I once calculated, that blueberry jams are quite time consuming compared to seeds and 8 jam makers are quite a lot

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Why do u use them as food? U donā€™t like cooking?

orchid wyvern
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Btw was curious with something, does the max layout for soil plots only go up to 9? is that why the 3x3 layout from most templates?

wary finch
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before I had 8 jars for apple jam and 3 for berries, now I have 8 for berries, and 3 free slots for other crafters instead, and I don't need that many normal worms anymore, that is why I saved in total 4 crafter slots.

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yes, dreamz

vernal bluff
orchid wyvern
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Ahhhh makes sense now with all the 3x3 layouts etc

vernal bluff
orchid wyvern
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That's fine I guess so you have time to do other things on top of just gardening I guess, trying to think of best layout for 3x3 to eventually work on kimchi and pepper profits and more, not sure if anyone posted a template but yeah looking into all that, for cooking/seeds/preserves etc

wary finch
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I get 384 glow worms per rl day, so I will never be short of those.

vernal bluff
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I even sell them often

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But I do it for speedygro

wary finch
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the win for me is the processing capacity which I could increase like this which results in more playtime, which again means more output of my garden which in return means more profit.

vernal bluff
wary finch
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I did apples-> jam -> glow worm farm before, and compared to this it is now much better

vernal bluff
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U also need to refill it only like every 35 hours?

wary finch
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no, I get 480 apples in 20 hrs, that is 24 apples in every in game day in average

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so next batch of apples is up, returning to palia

vernal bluff
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What I donā€™t understand is why you chose
Apple->worms
And not apple->jams
Bc the processing time difference is not huge, but the profit is. For the worms its 14 and for jams 48

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(Might slightly differ bc I donā€™t have the numbers in front of me now)

final tiger
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Anyone have a good passive income without blueberries? I canā€™t buy those seeds yet šŸ’—

vernal bluff
final tiger
vernal bluff
# final tiger Yes! I can do apples, just not bloobs.

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Last one contains all crops as well

final tiger
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Tysm

vernal bluff
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Oups, forgot to change the blueberries to peppers on the last one

orchid wyvern
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So bok choy/cabbage and peppers all give back 1 for 1 on glow worms, so if I slowly stock up on each of them, I just put say 50% back into the glow worm farm of whichever Crop I get back the most?

vernal bluff
final tiger
umbral hound
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I need a lot of seeds to keep a consistent pattern chapaasad

iron star
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is it normal that some crops have a number beside the Quality Boost 1,2,3...etc and some no matter how many time you fertilise, the number doesnt appear?

limber haven
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Does stacking the fertilizer stack the buffs?

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Or just make it so you don't need to fertilize again?

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
limber haven
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So is there any point to fertilizing days before harvest?

vernal bluff
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Like if u have stacked 5, itā€™ll take 5 days for them to disappear

vernal bluff
limber haven
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Ooooh

vernal bluff
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So in order to not do it manually every day, you can stack them

limber haven
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Man, I've been wasting a lot of fertilizer, then

orchid wyvern
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Closest I can get to, my brains melted thinking about the pattern, anyone know what Im missing out on for the other peppers to get 3 buff or

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Since I need Cotton to get started on preserve barrels but also want to get started on stock for Peppers and the other 2

vernal bluff
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Easier to try out than to say

orchid wyvern
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Yah one sec

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Only a temporary one just so I can self sustain some Cotton in the mean time and then switch fully to my pepper/bok/cabbage plot layout for processing later

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
orchid wyvern
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Now that Im looking at it wait this is actually super nice, Nero can I dm you the other template I had that was lacking Cotton and give me your opinion to both of them, I want to focus on Kimchi/Peppers etc but also meals later on, excess stuff put in for glow worms for fishing and Cotton extra money or use on things

vernal bluff
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Sure surechapaathumbsup

wary finch
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finally freedom

errant zodiac
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quick question, how do you get the new trees for decor at the house plot?

wary finch
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when you chop down medium or large trees, you get occasionally a tree seed for them.

errant zodiac
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for the flow trees? alright thanks

wary finch
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but those are not just decor, you can actually chop them down as well for wood and eventually even a seed

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oh flow trees are related to the new temple, I don't know anything about it

errant zodiac
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makes sense, thanks though

sonic charm
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You can get flow tree seeds after finishing the Temple of the Roots and the 4th bundle in the Night Sky Temple

errant zodiac
wary finch
# vernal bluff What I donā€™t understand is why you chose Apple->worms And not apple->jams Bc t...

this is actually easy to explain, I felt hindered playing the game by my garden. So what I needed in the first place is processing capacity per rl day in order to acquire freedom to play as I want without to be hindered by my garden, because the only way to stop it creating produce is to either not replant it or not be logged in - so my garden gave me the feeling to not be free in my decisions - now I am free and can still run my garden for as long as I want to play.

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and glow worm farms can process 26,3% more apples than jars.

vernal bluff
wary finch
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yeah that good question, eventually it would have been the better idea like running 10 of those plus 1 glow worm farm, I still could do it though, for now I will produce glow worms.

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I am just using 24 crafters currently there is still capacity left.

vernal bluff
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U have 5 apples and you growboost them right?

wary finch
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growth and harvest boosted without fertilizers

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
wary finch
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6 more crafting licenses to buy

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sure

vernal bluff
wary finch
vernal bluff
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Ohhh thatā€™s a really nice layout

wary finch
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it looks nice on my plot, I didn't want a square garden

vernal bluff
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Cute, mine is also not square ahahha

wary finch
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but it is a pain to find all the weeds, because those trees hinder visuals

vernal bluff
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Oh yesss ahahah or replant the wheat and stuff

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Trees are half screen

wary finch
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not really, I do it crop type by crop type, it cannot be misplaced like this

vernal bluff
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I often missclick lolchapaafire

wary finch
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one of the trees had again failed harvest boost, even it is all by layout - so this is still buggy.

wary finch
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in the end you are right, I will run this for a week, then I'll have 3360 glow worms in stock, and then remove the glow worm farms completely and run 18 jars instead - provides still 14hrs playtime but creates nearly 60k daily revenue.

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just from apples, the other stuff adds to it

regal ibex
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Does using seeds with star quality guarantee the growth of crops with star quality?

wary finch
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no, it just adds 50% chance,your chance is level*2+50 percent then

regal ibex
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Ah that makes sense. Thanks!

wary finch
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with level 25+ you have 100% chance to get star quality with star seeds, and with level 50+ any seed will produce star quality

vernal bluff
orchid wyvern
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Would just like to give @vernal bluff a huge shoutout, big big help for me the last hour with my confusing brain, much love dude šŸ˜„

wary finch
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i agree, she put great effort in getting me to question my approach.

wary finch
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On the other side we have to honestly state, that this comes to be due to those many possible playtime hours per day.

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
wary finch
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yes, that is why I always suggest to those with 15hrs/week to stick to fast growing crop instead to go for frustratingly slow growing stuff.

devout shadow
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Does anyone else alternate crops between two water retaining plants?
(Plant them so that they're giving the other the water retention buff.)

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
devout shadow
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Was just wondering.

nova dome
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I'm not sure what the optimal thing to be doing is. I've got all my crops as tomatoes for ease as I got a bit overwhelmed by how many combinations there are. I've just unlocked the preserver jar. Should I continue putting my star quality tomatoes in the seed maker, or put half in there and half in the preserver?

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dawn wasp
clear kindle
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if you are just doing tomatoes for now, the way i did it when i started was to put star quality crops into seeders and the regular crops into preserve jars, just to start getting rid of the regular crops, you'll also need 81 seeds to replant if you stick with the tomatoes. as your level goes up, you'll get more and more star crops so at that point i would finish with regular and start moving in star crops into the preserve jars. once you have overstock of the star seeds sell those

vernal bluff
nova dome
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Exactly what I was looking for, thanks guys. I am at a stage where I'm only planting star quality seeds and I have a surplus of them. Will see how things go!

clear kindle
dawn wasp
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I'm not sure if this is the right channel or should I go to the fishing one. But do all plants give just 1 glow worm? Except fruits ofc

vernal bluff
orchid wyvern
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I bloody love this Community, keep feeling emotional when reading through all the positivity, not had this with a game in a long time šŸ«°

nova dome
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I have started to put star quality wheat seeds dotted around the plots (only got 2 planted atm) to increase the output, not sure if it's worth it but thought I'd try something different

clear kindle
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wheat will increase your how many tomatoes at each harvest you'll get back. i don't remember how many exactly though

dawn wasp
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Thank you! Lastly, who/which quests do I need to take to get Blueberry/Apples?

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I've been doing so much Sernuk hunting lately that I'm quite behind in quests

wary finch
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@vernal bluff I'm sorry, corrected it, Nero sounded male though.

wary finch
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so every foodstuff <=75g is just 1 glow worm

alpine jasper
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The speedy grow fertilizer description confuses me. For example if something takes 12 days to grow and I use that fertilizer does that mean itā€™ll grow in 9, 6? Etc

wary finch
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no, in 8, for each 2 days of growth one is added as done - 2+1,2+1,2+1,2+1 = 12, done in 8

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3 days crop grows in 2, 4 days crop in 3, 6 days crop in 4, and 12 days apple trees in 8

honest roost
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Question so I am turning alot of stuff to Jam. Does ayone suggest turning it into glow worms to to make more money since htey make alot of glow worms and fertilizer?

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or is ther a chart somewhere in here about best way to make money with farming

clear kindle
honest roost
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thc

umbral hound
wary finch
# umbral hound

this way you could as well have an additional 67% weed prevention

umbral hound
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Do I need weed prevention?

wary finch
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you can still get weed even if it is water retain

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and bok choy (seeded) and carrots are good cash crops as well

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it is just 2 columns to change basically, rest is like you had it

umbral hound
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Is it better to go by revenue/crop or avg. $/day/slot?

vital garnet
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whats a good making gold setup?

wary finch
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it is often a question of how well you can support that crop in the post-production, like bok choy has a nearly 100% value increase when seeded, but this is ofc just good, when you have the capacity to actually seed all the incoming produce, otherwise it's not that good and something else, what can be faster processed like carrots would be better.

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this picture shows how many of the produce can be processed per rl day in a crafter

ocean heart
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it's so hard to see the flower water thing

wary finch
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there are so many factors influencing the results, that you basically have to find your personal best.

ocean heart
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(i also wish tehre was a way to cancel growing like. destroy the plant and get the seed back)

wary finch
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you can destroy it, but you won't get the seed back - on pc use the hoe with the right mouse button, on switch with x

ocean heart
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oh i tried it didn't do anything. but maybe i didn't do it long enough lol

wary finch
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it is like chopping wood, you hold down the mouse button until it has damaged the plant 3 times, then it disappears

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just with the right mouse button instead of the left and using your hoe

wary finch
# umbral hound Is it better to go by revenue/crop or avg. $/day/slot?

I will give an example how I calculate this - I have speed and harvest boosted berry bushes. If I could play 24/7, one bush would produce 72 berries every rl day, a seeder can process 71, so I would need roughly 1 seeder per bush, if I wouldn't be human. If I play 6hrs per day (or login frequently to advance my garden) 1 seeder can support 4 bushes like this, because I play just a quarter of the time, so 1 seeder can support 4 speed and harvest boosted bushes.

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And in case of just 3hrs/day, half of the capacity of that seeder can be used for other crop.

limpid zinc
clear kindle
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have enough trees, there? (i know the answer is no, never too many trees)

wary finch
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1000 is the limit per housing plot, afaik

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but that looks like actual work there

umbral hound
limpid zinc
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Is that a lot? chapaaconfused

alpine jasper
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Is there a bug where we canā€™t put flowers in our storage? I was able to a day ago I would put flowers in my locked storage as I continue to grow them and collect seeds so that I can have a bunch stored for decorating when I expand my house, but now I canā€™t seem to put them in there after taking them out etc. once you fully grow a flower it gives you a seed, I plant the new seed and then the flower thatā€™s fully grown I would put them in my locked box and now I canā€™t. Iā€™ve only used my lock box for crafters I am not able to place yet and the new flowers and now itā€™s not an option.

clear kindle
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Added a temporary fix to an issue with Flowers merging into stacks and being unable to be taken out when placed into storage.
āš ļøPlease note: For the time being, only seeds will be able to be put into storage. Watered and fully-grown Flowers will not be placeable in storage.

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from the hotfix this past week

fast jewel
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best gardening set up to maximise apple trees without water?

clear kindle
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so, no water retention? what about weed?

alpine jasper
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Pls say yes Prayge

clear kindle
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probably until they can figure out what's wrong with the code, but may take a while to get a fix to it

alpine jasper
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Okie dokie thx ā˜ŗļø

spark rivet
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hii does anyone have some apples they could donate?

wary finch
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star quality cannot be donated and I have plenty, but unfortunately all star quality

robust kernel
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How long do trees take to grow now? X

muted spear
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10 to fully mature then another 4 I think to produce seed

restive minnow
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Ive open a new house plot just to plant all my excess flowers - so add me if you want to get some from my garden

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I have a lot more of tulips currently

spark rivet
spark rivet
meager wolf
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How do you get the blueberry seed?

restive minnow
spark rivet
sonic charm
restive minnow
spark rivet
restive minnow
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Yepp

spark rivet
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omw :))

meager wolf
mild forge
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I think we should at least be able to get more plots for farming either by gardening lvl or have it increase to 12 instead of cap at 9

muted spear
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nah 9 is a sweet spot makes a nice square and doesnt take too long to manage

mild forge
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But the bigger plants take up more room xp

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And take so long to be done lol.

blazing ridge
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if you're having trouble getting the crops you need from 9 soil you should optimize boosts. or you're trying to do too much too fast. if you don't need starred crops you can always purchase from badruu

mild forge
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Lol probably. Still think should be 3 more plots. XD

blazing ridge
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that would just be 2 or 3 more apple trees for me. and then another preserve because I'd have too much to process

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you'll reach the point where your garden is just a money farm, no need to rush into it

errant hearth
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It's be nice to have more just as an aesthetic or expanding the look of your garden if money isn't your main goal

spark lark
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This ^ I use 7 squares for active farming but was really hoping to be able to set up an apple orchard just for aesthetics on my home plot šŸ˜“ I hadnt realized there was a cap on gardening plots and just assumed they'd go up in price every time

umbral hound
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Do crops only grow while you're online?

vernal bluff
umbral hound
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Is it possible to have 100% WR, 100% Yield, and 100% Weed Prot? on this 9x9

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rich shard
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is this good? or should i focus on quality?

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vernal bluff
umbral hound
vernal bluff
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Wait, what do u mean by 100% yield?

umbral hound
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Yield, harvest

vernal bluff
rich shard
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yield is almost perfect in proportions to things i cook so i guess i am happy xd

vernal bluff
# umbral hound

Then it is possible with 4 fertilizers for the angles though only, as the angles only have 2 empty sides

umbral hound
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w/o any fert, just manual water once and done, everything else 100%

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Can you even craft fert?

sonic charm
umbral hound
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all the good stuff is at level 10 chapaasad

sonic charm
umbral hound
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I lose bonus yield for tomatos and potatos in the first and last column, but everything gets WR and Weed prot

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even so, my profit is 4k less than what I originally use

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I'm probably better off using my 4 selected crops for WR and yield

cold blaze
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accidentally sold the last of my star quality napa cabbage chapaafire

umbral hound
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9.8k vs 9.9k

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vernal bluff
vernal bluff
umbral hound
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Think I'm gonna ignore proper gardening until I reach Lv 10 and/or get the proper seeds, cuz I don't want to use blueberries/Spice and apple trees for more better profit

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I'll just do the casual grow crops, seed maker quality crops, and sell everything else

crude grail
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How much longer do I have to wait to get apples or blueberries??? I want Eshe to stop harassing my neighbors on behalf of the magic cops../lh Iā€™m at level six gardening if that helpsā€¦

sonic charm
crude grail
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Oh. Thatā€™s even more frustrating/lh

jagged nexus
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Would definitely be neat if they added some sort of livestock pets type thing... anyone else?

wary finch
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oh was mentioned before, sorry

wary finch
crude grail
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einarsad I need to take Jina on a nice date thoā€¦.

wary finch
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Now is the best time to stock up on peppers, because later on,when you don't need any quality boost anymore, because everything comes out star quality, you are not likely to ever plant peppers again. Use the time you have now, to build a sizeable stock of spicy peppers.

umbral hound
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I just use seed collectors to reproduce more quality seeds

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Which I have plenty of for Tomatoes and working for Potatoes, Rice and Wheat

wary finch
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this was my peppers garden pre-berries/apples

vestal lodge
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V glad I checked before I used all my guild coins on this. I think I'll save for the well first and come back to it

wary finch
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all these get you as well the star quality rice you want

coarse surge
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Hi my fellow adventurers! I'm looking for a full gardening plot with all the ingredients, but 100% water retain and 100% weed prevention. I do not mind if it will cost me fertilizers. Do you guys have any ideas? ā¤ļø

blazing ridge
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this should work, just use fert where needed

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vernal bluff
bitter blade
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Hi is there an updated money making layout ? With the new crops? So far I make apples into jam and tomato seeds for selling

restive minnow
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Ive completed every quest, and got all the items, but i didnt learn how to grow flow trees on my own plot, how do i grow that?

coarse surge
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Thanks everyone! gonna try them both!

kind kite
restive minnow
kind kite
gleaming glen
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How do you get it to give you seeds, do you need to water it? NM was looking at the wrong thing

wary finch
stable ginkgo
wary finch
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I just use the garden planner, set it to 360 days with permanent replant, lvl 25+, all star seeds, growth boost calculation and state as well what the post-harvest process is, either crop, seed or preserve - the 360 days I've chosen, because replant effects come into play there more clearly.

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you think so?, build your 4th house with 15 rooms and then tell me again, you don't need the money. rooms get extremely expensive, or take the last 5 crafting licenses, 140k, you need money in the game.

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once small rooms cost you 25+k each, you think differently about money requiements in palia.

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360 days is not unrealistic, it' s 28hrs/week in 3 rl months.

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with my current setup I get this done in 25 rl days even, so these numbers are far more useful for me.

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like currently I am building a stock of 2000 glow worms, I started yesterday to actually save them and I will have 2000 in stock by the end of monday, then I transition from a 45k/day setup to a 60k/day setup, smoothly, takes me like 10 minutes to do that, because I have the infrastructure (and because I had good advice from @vernal bluff, who pointed out to me, that I can make much more by changing my post-harvest-process).

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and by the end of next tuesday, I will as well have bought the last 5 crafting licenses -this is how I roll and therefore these big numbers, they tell me what I will be able to do in the upcoming 3-4 weeks.

wary finch
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stuff is expensive in Palia, like if you want a gazebo, you need to buy 3 housing plots, cost you 225k, if you want big houses on those as well, hm, 1-1.2 million I'd say, so we are at roughly 1.5 million gold now and have not even bought the gazebo and pavilions for those properties yet.

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wall of text,sorry,but you wanted to know.

acoustic current
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Can someone make me a plot for this with all crobs (except apple )(and of without chilli and blues bcs they're already there)

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Or give me tipps i tried making my own but im so confused

tired grove
acoustic current
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Yes

wary finch
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well they are crap like they are placed by you, @acoustic current, because they do not provide good boosts like that

acoustic current
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Could have said it a bit nicer i just like it organized (edit not thank u anyway could have just not do it if u ignore my request will do it myself)

wary finch
acoustic current
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Ok so i came up with this^^
Yeye it "don't provide good boost" but its very organizated and nice (and still gives me good money)

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wary finch
acoustic current
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No thank u i like my organizated farm

wary finch
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have at least a look, it looks quite organized

stable ginkgo
acoustic current
wary finch
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it's ok, no worries

vernal bluff
# acoustic current Ok so i came up with this^^ Yeye it "don't provide good boost" but its very org...

You donā€™t need to harvest boost all of the crops btw, bc some of them already have the boost only these donā€™t1155 :

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-1111-1111_CROPS-B.HB.HSp.HB.HB.HSp.HB.HB.HSp.H-Sp.HC.HCSp.HC.HCSp.HO.HO-R.HR.HBkRRBkWWCb-Bk.HB.HB.HBk.HB.HB.HCb.HSp.HSp.H-B.HB.HSp.HB.HB.HSp.HB.HB.HSp.H-Sp.HOOSp.HCr.HCr.HSp.HCr.HCr.H-W.HW.HCbCoCoT.HCoCo.HT.H-Cb.HSp.HSp.HT.HP.HP.HT.HP.HP.H

Also if u get tired of fertilizing, may I offer you this layout:

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-1111-1111_CROPS-N.HPR.HN.HPR.HN.HPR.H-BBSpBBSpBBSp-SpCr.HBkSpCr.HBkSpCr.HBk-CbW.HOCbW.HOCbW.HO-N.HTR.HN.HTR.HN.HTR.H-BBSpBBSpBBSp-SpCr.HCSpCr.HCSpCr.HC-CoW.HNCoW.HNCoW.HN

It is still organized, just in rows and not 2x2, but it allows u to use less fertilizers and easier to spot on which placeschapaathumbsup
(The pepper and blueberry are still on the same places, u can just move the 2 plots from the end on the other side)

acoustic current
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Thank u for the tipp
I just wanted to show of my plot tho very happy with it
But thanks anyway ^^

vernal bluff
acoustic current
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Yes yes !^^
And thank u again

wary finch
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just reminds me of an advert by an american investment company in the 60s, I guess, IOS, Investors Overses Services, which advertised "if you don't like getting-rich-fast-plans, we have a slowly-getting-rich plan for you as well", or something alike it was. I read a book about that company, it had quite some interesting concepts.

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hm,yeah,american company, but not in the US, but Canada with their headquarter in Switzerland.

steel kelp
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Can someone help with a garden plan that has spicy peppers, corn cabbage and bok choy??

ruby owl
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and thereā€™s still spots for fertilizer

steel kelp
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Ou- I will looksie!!

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Thank you, regardless!!

ruby owl
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np!! chapaahappy

reef coral
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Is there a good crop layout for apple seeds I only have 2 apple seeds

deft galleon
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hey sorry if this has been asked before but is there a way to get rid of the soil circle around the base of the tree? like it was pre update..?

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maybe this should be in house decor im not srue

blazing ridge
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there is not. but they have said they got a lot of negative feedback and will likely change it in a future update

clear kindle
deft galleon
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thank you for the response @umbral bough @blazing ridge chapaathumbsup, lets hope they will fix it šŸ™‚

blazing ridge
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it's not a total loss as you can hide things in it to make it better looking

deft galleon
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oh yeah that looks nice! nice how you did that around the other monument kinda tree

blazing ridge
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just place the decorations first and then put the tree down. might require rotating the tree to get it to sit

unique plover
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How did you make flow trees on your plot ?

blazing ridge
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you can get flow seeds as a possible late-game reward

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I found out today that each tree type has a flow seed! need me juniper flow trees

unique plover
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Ohh i see

manic meteor
spice elbow
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how long does it take for apple trees to bear more apples? i got one apple harvest so far but several in game days have passed and i haven't gotten another harvest...

clear kindle
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apples are 12+6+6+6

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unless you are using growth boosts then i'm not sure about how soon they are to harvest

spice elbow
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so i have to wait 6 hours for another harvest?

clear kindle
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yeah, after the initial 12 hours to first harvest, the next harvest will be ready 6 hours later, and then again 6 hours after that harvest

spice elbow
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i mean time wise

clear kindle
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have you been offline at all? if not, have the trees been watered and checked for weeds? weeds can stop crops from growing and they are hard to see if they are on the middle tile by the trunk

spice elbow
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yeah i'm still trying to figure out an efficient farming method so that plants will be fully grown after being offline for a few hours

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i've never had all the crops be ready by harvest though

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i think they stop giving other crops benefits once they are ready to harvest and that might be the issue as to why only half the plants are ready at any given time

clear kindle
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well, if you are offline, the crops don't grow

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they get one growth tic and then they stop

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and i only harvest my apple trees (the other crops stay on the garden fully ready for harvest and they still give buffs)

spice elbow
clear kindle
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nope, once offline they stop growing, the crafters (seeders/preserve jars etc) keep going, but not the crops

spice elbow
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is there any way to AFK then

blazing ridge
spice elbow
clear kindle
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if you are able to do that, leave the game on and just come back and move a button or something

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but no, there is no way to afk the farms

blazing ridge
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if using a controller you can always set it so the camera stick is always moving slowly, preventing inactivity

clear kindle
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when i got ff7:rebirth, i took my switch in my room and just moved the joystick occasionally while playing

spice elbow
blazing ridge
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I'm not sure you want to leave your switch on that long but sure, rubberband the analog stick or set the controller upside down

gilded crystal
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What seeds are the best in time/money

clear kindle
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yeah, the poor potato with a screen's fan will not be happy being left on for long periods of time, i'm hearing the fan struggling as is

spice elbow
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maybe i won't afk then

blazing ridge
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yes. mine is constantly screaming at me. I alternate sleep mode and fully shutting down so it can have a break. lol

spice elbow
clear kindle
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depends on your play style and time/money investment, bok choy/rice/wheat nets a lot of seeds within 3-4 hours, but you'll need a lot of seeders to get them all processed. apples net a lot of money but takes hours to get the harvests going

spice elbow
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although now my switch says that i have over 200 hours in that game just because i left it on while my switch (and I) was sleeping

wide marlin
wary finch
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it is very easy failing to recognize weed at the root of an apple tree, and if there is weed, it won't grow further.

blazing ridge
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and you can still water them so you don't even notice and then when it's a day behind the others you realize you missed it before (I did this several times before getting weed holders)

acoustic current
# blazing ridge

Uu i already saw it in the patch notes that the gardener gives flow tree but i didn't see how i spoke to him everyday

copper valley
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rip i think my fertilizer bugged out, two bluebs lost about 92 weedblock each šŸ˜­

velvet nacelle
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I have been getting a seed from the flow trees I am growing, from the seed given by ||the Ancient Galdur Statue||, and I have taken that seed and planted it but no seed has dropped even after it is fully grown and watered (even when it doesn't show a water bar anymore). Is that how everyone else has experienced it? Unlike flowers that give you seeds every time you plant and fully grow a flower. Basically parent plant, one child, no grandchildren.

tired grove
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looking for a garden plot with easy profits and a few places left for crops of my choice

deft galleon
velvet nacelle
deft galleon
lusty timber
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Can someone give me a plan for a field with three apple trees which are all with a star pls ?

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No four I meant

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Thanks

blazing ridge
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cleaner version. fill in the gaps with whatever

clear kindle
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current layout, aesthetic plan

formal shale
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Is there like a garden planner default? Like one thatā€™s already figured out so I can just set it up following it? šŸ˜‚

clear kindle
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just what others have posted, there's not one already made up

formal shale
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Okay thanks

true saffron
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Ik this has been asked a million times but does anyone have a garden plan that contains every crop? I have all unlocked

blazing ridge
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open note to everyone, if you click the channel name it will let you filter by media, which will have all the different layouts that we have been posting. you can probably find something useful there

versed sonnet
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hello, from what i understand ancient galdur statue can give flow tree seed, and it is random if it gives you normal seed or flow seed? or I need to plant it next to flow tree (one that is second reward)? Like im getting seeds and not simple flow so im just unlucky or im planting it in wrong place?

sonic charm
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Youā€™ll get one eventually

versed sonnet
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okay so im just unlucky, good to know šŸ˜…

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thank you

ocean heart
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they ever gonna give us sprinklers? lol

clear kindle
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probably not, since some crops give water retain

dawn wasp
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is there a way to remove/cancel the current crops I have?

ionic kettle
dawn wasp
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OMG tysm!

lyric hearth
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That one's been working well for me, even without fertilizer

true saffron
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got it tysm

formal delta
spice elbow
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why aren't my adjacent carrots and potatoes keeping my trees hydrated and weed free

clear kindle
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apple trees? they need to have three of the buffs next to them, so three carrots and three potatoes (or a mix of those that give weed and water retention)

spice elbow
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ah geez then i guess i messed up my garden again

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i just keep looking at these layouts and feel so confused as to which one is the best

clear kindle
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example

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this gives you 100% weed and water, and is easily remembered for replanting. this is NOT optimal (harvest boost fert would need to be on the apples)

vernal bluff
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Unharvest boosted apples make me feel sadhamsterPwease

clear kindle
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i just threw it together to show the crop boost for the trees

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optimal would have harvest boost fert on the apple trees

spice elbow
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do you still get some kind of quality boost effect if you plant quality seeds? that's what i've been doing

clear kindle
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if you plant star seeds you will get a higher chance of getting star crops in return, 50% chance plus 2% per level of gardening. once you are level 25 you will always get star crops from star seeds, level 50 will give you star crops from all seeds

spice elbow
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oh so your level does improve your skill in this game

clear kindle
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at least for gardening it does

spice elbow
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thing is, i do not really know how the math checks out

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like for insect catch rates. i never have problems catching common blue butterflies but if a common insect is a shiny or it's a rare insect then it usually takes like 7 throws

clear kindle
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bug catching is based on the rarity, quality and the type of belt you are using

spice elbow
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does the type of smoke bomb have much of an impact

clear kindle
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it has close to the bottom the catch rates for each belt

blazing ridge
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gardening boosts star chance based on level, bug catching increases catch odds based on equipped item level (exquisite!), bow does damage based on the arrow you use, fishing catches rarer fish with rarer bait, cooking is ingredient and quickness based

spice elbow
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does the quality of the bow have an impact or is it just arrows

blazing ridge
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bow quality is for distance/arc

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you can shoot further more accurately with an exquisite bow. tho not often needed

spice elbow
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i find hunting more difficult than bug catching

blazing ridge
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mining and tree cutting do more "damage" the higher quality, and let you do flow and pal

spice elbow
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at least with bugs you can get pretty close and they won't move that fast if you startle them. there's no way to lock on with hunting and too often i keep missing the animals instead of one shotting them

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i've found that you really can't get them if you don't one shot the animal on the first try

blazing ridge
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I like slowdown arrows so they don't run away as fast

spice elbow
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i still can't figure out how to down the blue teleporting deer

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i tried it once and it either despawned or i lost track of it

blazing ridge
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yeah it is a bother to chase. expel arrows can stop it from teleporting for a few seconds

spice elbow
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also i have no idea if i actually hit it or i missed and it was startled

clear kindle
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once you get access to hunting level 8, you can craft hunter's horns which will track the magical creatures so you can see where the deer teleports to and how far away it is

blazing ridge
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if you play with sound on you can hear the difference between a hit and miss (usually)

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but on topic, my game glitched again and one of my apple trees was fake watered, now it's a day behind

jolly compass
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People who worm farm... How does that make more money, are you selling the fertilizer and worms? Like if I make star quality apple jam how would worm farming make more gold than just selling that?

clear kindle
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yes, the worm farm (regular worms) if you sell the worms and fert together will get you 160 gold per apple jam which sells for 144

calm bone
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This is my current garden setup. I have a glow worm farm to produce the harvest increase poo. https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-T.HP.HC.HC.HO.HCo.HSp.HSp.HT.H-O.HT.HP.HW.HCo.HR.HCb.HC.HBk.H-C.HO.HT.HCo.HCr.HP.HT.HW.HC.H-Sp.HSp.HBk.HT.HP.HC.HO.HCo.HCb.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-Cb.HCo.HO.HC.HP.HT.HBk.HB.HB.H-C.HR.HT.HP.HW.HCo.HT.HO.HC.H-Bk.HC.HCb.HCr.HCo.HR.HP.HT.HO.H-T.HB.HB.HCo.HO.HC.HC.HP.HT.H I wanted to have a mix of everything, in case I needed anything for cooking or gifting. Now it's all star quality seeds and crops. Plus, I make a ton of Sernuk Noodle Stew, so I have enough carrots, onion, and wheat for that. I find it's the best to cook for keeping full on XP boost. No need to purchase anything from Zeki and fast to make.

blazing ridge
jolly compass
clear kindle
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the jam gains about 24 gold going into the worm farms, it's just depends on if you want to wait the extra hour to process after already waiting for the apples to become jam

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also depends on your setup, if you can process all of the apples/jams/worms

blazing ridge
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it get 16 worms and 16 fert, or 3 glow worms and 16 fert, per hour, which is a good hourly return on worms and fert, just not overly profit inducing

jolly compass
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Right now I'm mainly selling star potatoes and cabbage, and star apple jam for profit

blazing ridge
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yay I got a flow samara tree seed today. maybe juniper tomorrow?

bronze ridge
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you can get flow tree seeds ???? omg

cold blaze
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hoping for some help understanding the garden planner and what's going on when I do something. starting with this 2x3 plan, if I change one of the growth boosted blueberries to harvest boost instead, the final profits go up around 20k

the next bush switched to harvest boost adds another 700 gold or so

after that switching any more bushes starts losing money?

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clear kindle
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well, when you do harvest boosts on the two bushes that are not harvest boosted by the other crops, you'll get more berries in return. the reason you lose money is probably the calculator adjusting for the replant costs, it's assuming you will need to replant the seeds that you got to keep the farm going. at least, that's my theory on it.

cold blaze
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ohhh I didn't even realize I left two bushes out hahaha. I'll have to tinker the corn/rice arrangement and see if it's possible to arrange it to hit all of them properly šŸ«” thanks for the eyes

clear kindle
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yeah, there's some room for improvement, some of the crops can be swapped to get everything harvest boosted. like swapping the corn in the top row third column with the bok choy on the same square would get that bush harvest boost

oak anchor
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Iā€™ve been turning my starred apples, potatoes, tomatoes and cabbage into seeds and selling them and getting pretty good profit

clear kindle
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when you get preserve jars at level 8, it'll be better, especially the apples

oak anchor
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I have preserve jars and I donā€™t really care to use them tbh, I used them for quite awhile esp when cake parties were at their peak, I just prefer the seeds to sell šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø

clear kindle
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to each their own, just losing money on the apples as it takes ten apples to make 1050 gold when 10 apples in preserve jars makes 1440. but if it works, it works

oak anchor
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if Iā€™m already making seeds to plant in my garden I might as well make the seeds and sell the excess is my thought process, the less I have to worry about remembering to fill the better on my end most of the time

wintry bronze
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What seed genetate most money? I dont have Apple get. Is it potato?

clear kindle
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bok choy, 1 bok choy gives 4 seeds which is 88 gold for the 4

bronze ridge
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just realised bok choy and cabbage isnā€™t on there ā€¦ hopefully still useful for someone

wary finch
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That's 384 glow worms every day, runtime of my glow worm farm 5 1/4 days to get 2000+ worms.

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It's not to make money, but to build a stock of glow worms, I run my farm at 45k/day instead of 60k/day just to get those worms, which means I am missing out on nearly 80k to get those 2000 worms in stock. Seen with opportunity costs, it costs me actually 40g/worm, so I won't sell them, but use them myself over time.

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for those wondering how 60k/day (just from apple jam) come to be - 22 jars x 19 x 144g = 60,192g - apples required 19x22 = 418 apples, my trees generate 480 apples in 20 hrs, so easy to do.

wintry bronze
# bronze ridge

hmm the potatos i dont think its accurate form the preserve jar. for me it says i will get 68 from it

wary finch
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that is what the chart says as well, maybe you misread.

remote apex
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hi everyone! looking for a layout with everything on? high water retention and weed prevention if possible

teal gull
wary finch
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well 480-50 = 430, and I need just 418 apples,so it all works out fine.

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I can even make an extra seed and still run everything.

vernal bluff
wary finch
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I guess, that is the one I saved as "retirement garden", for when I won't want to power run an apple garden anymore.

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and it has my preferred garden shape as well

vernal bluff
pallid willow
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ive been rocking tomatoes, wheat, and cotton for a while. are they decent for moneh or should i switch?
dont got apple tree or even chilly now that i think about it '-'

remote apex
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thank you!!

vernal bluff
pallid willow
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ok, newbie question

  • do i need cotton if i have qualityUP fertilizer with star quality seeds?
  • is there a downside to having weeds grow?
  • can u get star quality harvest from normal quality seeds?
bold gate
pallid willow
vernal bluff
wary finch
harsh gorge
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Preserve jars are level 8

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You are correct about the level for the seed collector/maker

pallid willow
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ooooo tyty, ill keep those in mind ty all ^^
i should probably atleast get all farming areas 1st though >_>
those soil patches stuff..... its worth the investment....im gonna be broke....

wary finch
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first should always be upgrading your bag space at least once, better twice

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otherwise you waste lots of time going home or to the shop to sell your loot

pallid willow
maiden tinsel
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You canā€™t put the new flowers into storage?

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Once they are fully grown

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I wish that was a feature

jolly compass
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You could before the last update. I had several stacks of flowers and trees and just started to take some out this week. Realized that I can't put them back in and that some of my stacks of lavender etc are gone šŸ˜­

wintry bronze
wary finch
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hm, never happened to me, that's weird

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I have 5 potato plants in my garden, so I preserve them often enough, always star quality, never happened to me like this

cold blaze
wary finch
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ah yes, good to say this, that's confusing

wintry bronze
ivory brook
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I've been hoarding all my crops for cooking and not selling any does anyone know a good sell to keep ratio for how many I should sell and how many I should keep

harsh gorge
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I keep about 100 of everything for cooking. Obviously not Cotton. The star stuff I tend to toss into the preserve jars.

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||although you will need 200 apples for one of the Temple of Roots bundle||

sonic charm
solemn dagger
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i am almost gardening level 7 and i have no apple or blueberry seeds.... pls help

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where do you find them?

harsh gorge
vernal bluff
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U can buy them for guild coins after lvl. 10 or
Apples ||befriend Zeki or Naio lvl. 3||
Bloobs ||befriend Badruu||

solemn dagger
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CatYes i see i see thank you friends

jolly compass
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Is there a good time to use harvest boost fertilizer with apples? I feel like it disappears after 1 cycle and can't tell if it benefits the harvest at all

clear kindle
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fertilizer works best when applied every in game day (or stacked so that it covers every in game day). apples require 9 fertilizers per growth tick

spice elbow
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i have a hard time using all mine up on fishing

wary finch
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well, who knows for how many years I'll play Palia, so this is a good stock imo.

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I have a record of playing MMOs for more than a decade.

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and once I am done with it, I remove all glow worm farms and replace them by preserve jars, so no new worms incoming for who knows how long.

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I have a bit over 1600 now, so about an additional day and then I'm done with it.

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I might eventually pause them for a while, because in 3 hrs my trees come live again, and then I want full preserve capacity.

spice elbow
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do i really need to replace the fertilizer every day

wary finch
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it can be stacked, you can put down fertilizer for several days

cold blaze
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is something like this best if I wanted to try to maximize profit from blueberries in a 2x3?

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vernal bluff
blazing ridge
wary finch
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quality stuff is about 50% higher in value, so 6 quality bushes produce as much income as 9 non-quality bushes (but require 33% less process capacity), and here you have quality peppers as well. So with the same amount of seeders/jars you can do more.

tired grove
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someone please show me a very high profit garden šŸ™‚

wary finch
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it is not just the garden layout, you need as well the required infrastructure of seeders/jars to make it actually high profit, and it depends as well on how often you can advance the growth of the garden, it is not just the layout.

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I run 5 apple trees, 4 blueberry bushes with 22 jars and 5 seeders, apple jam alone yields 60k/rl day, all the other stuff adds to it. but I need to advance the garden at least 20 times every day.

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I will likely expand to 24 jars, which would add another 5k/rl day, but this is about the limit then, 24 jars, 5 seeders, 1 worm farm, and when I need to saw wood or smelt something, I 'll remove 1 or 2 seeders to be able to put the other crafters out. (30 is crafter limit)

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these last 2 crafting licenses cost 62k, so yeah, can do that by tomorrow.

nocturne stirrup
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I tend to accidentally double place fertilizer on plants and I always thought I was wasting it but itā€™s come to my attention that they stack? Is this true

sonic charm
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Yes, fertiliser stacks

pallid frost
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What is the top-tier fertilizer?

manic meteor
wary finch
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for a beginner quality upgrade fertilizer is the most useful, because it helps you with getting access to star crop, from which you can make star seeds, replant the star seed and put quality upgrade fertilizer on it (which you can craft yourself after a while) in order to get even more star crop. This fertilizer is of no use for advanced gardener (because their produce comes out all star quality anyway), so it is really meant for young gardeners.

quaint summit
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It's also one of the first one you get with worm farm

wary finch
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there is as well a recipe for it, you can make 20 fertilizer units from a bug, one meat and one sundrop flower.

pallid frost
vernal bluff
pallid frost
vernal bluff
pallid frost
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Thanks btw šŸ™‚ Just fertilized stuff some more šŸ™‚

wary finch
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so last harvest before downtime is next - got lucky, next batch is apples.

wary finch
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what really annoys me, is that I just occasionally get 120 apples, even it is all harvest and speed boosted by crops, sometimes 1 is failing harvest boost, sometimes even 2, so I get results of 120, 112 or 104. I would guess, about 20% is the failure rate of harvest boost with my apple trees. Does someone else make this experience?

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it is not even always the same tree(s) failing, I see no pattern in this.

wary finch
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my apple garden and jam production, looks quite insane, if seen from this perspective (from my outdoor barbie)

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blazing ridge
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I get 24 off each of my trees but I don't use growth boost, just harvest, and only 1 is from fert

wary finch
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ah good to know, I will report this to support, because it shouldn't happen at all.

vernal bluff
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I use grow boost fertilizers and I think it only happens ones pro mb two harvests with my 6 trees that one gives 16 sometimes and with one of the bloobs, which get boost from trees

wary finch
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with me, it is more often, about 1 in 5, so if I get 120 apples, I can somewhat count on one of the next will have 2 failures.

vernal bluff
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Now that I think about it, mb it buggs less with fertilizers, bc considering I only have 2 bloobs I get it pretty oftebfrogbertthink But not sure

wary finch
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I use just crop boost, no fertilizers.

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both both, growth and harvest boost.

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growth boost did not fail yet, that works pretty well.

vernal bluff
wary finch
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yes, that I meant, no fertilizers.

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ah

vernal bluff
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And I mean I use one

wary finch
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well, s6 should know about it, this is really not how it should be.

warm heath
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hey, another fertilizer question here! I haven't placed fertilizer in about a week of in-game days? but my plant spaces are still showing the little pink fertilizer specs on them? and when I hit "G" to examine, it's still showing "Harvest Boost."
I was under the impression that fertilizer only last one in-game day? What is going on?

vernal bluff
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I think tgey are aware of it, but itā€™s like not the most important but to fix, so mb it will take timefrogbertthink

vernal bluff
wary finch
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well, the bug with the disappearing fertilizer stacks got fixed, but I had to communicate with support for about a week to get this done.

vernal bluff
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Can we see ur layout and know what fertilizers u use?

wary finch
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fertilizer is just used, if the plant doesn't have this boost already from neighboring plants.

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I think the details need to be stated clearly to s6, the difference between your both experiences with different approaches to the boosts versus my approach. Maybe they can find a pattern more easily then and fix it.

warm heath
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Also, I don't know what it means when the plant glows and has the swirls going around it?

vernal bluff
wary finch
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you have harvest boost on everything by companion planting, it won't use any harvest boost fertilizer then.

vernal bluff
warm heath
vernal bluff
wary finch
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that is why, it won't be used, because neighboring plants provide that boost now.

warm heath
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ah, ok! so I should just go back to using quality boost?

vernal bluff
warm heath
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50

wary finch
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then you don't need that either

vernal bluff
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Then u donā€™t need it anymore

warm heath
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so, I shouldn't use fertilizer at all?

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wait, gardening level or overall level?

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
warm heath
vernal bluff
warm heath
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ok, what's the level of gardening where i stop using fertilizer?

wary finch
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if you plant star seeds at level 25

warm heath
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and if I don't plant star seeds?

wary finch
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50

warm heath
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rad! thank you @wary finch and Nero for your help! I appreciate you chapaasquish

wary finch
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you have currently a 24% chance to get star crop, with quality upgrade fertlizer it will be 74%

wary finch
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@warm heaththere is quite a difference between planting normal seeds and normal seeds with quality upgrade fertilizer - normal is 0.76+1.5x0.24 = 1.12, 12% more income due to star quality, whereas with fertilĆ­ser 0.26+1.5x0.74 = 1.37, 37% more income due to star quality crop, at your gardening level. This is already relative good, because all quality crop would be a factor of 1.5, 1.37 is quite near to it already.

warm heath
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I do not know what all the numbers in your math mean, but what I took away from this is that I do want to use Quality Up fertilizer currently, yes? einareyes

vernal bluff
warm heath
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Definitely! When I get starred seeds, I plant them šŸ™‚

wary finch
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those numbers are just sum of possible outcomes multiplied with their probability, which results in a percentage. Now if you want to know what the effect is of using fertilizer it is 1.37/1.12 = 22.32% more income compared to not using quality upgrade fertiliser.

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while the amount of starred crop will increase, this percentage will go down, because the effect of the fertilization is decreasing compared to not using it, and it becomes 0%, when you will always get star quality.

cold blaze
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I'm gardening level 27 btw

wary finch
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yeah, too late, that is already the time where one doesn't want to plant peppers anymore - it's for me the same, I wish I would have hoarded more peppers, when those were still beneficial for my garden.

cold blaze
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I've got a liiiittle hoard in case I need them for cooking but I figure I can swap out for a few harvests if I ever really want them again. not worrying about it until it happens LOL

wary finch
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yeah I feel you, I have already worked out a plan how to use the apple tree spots, when I would have to replant them, and farm some other crop there for a little while without having to change the rest. those are 45 slots for other crop for a little while, this is possible to do but every day my apple garden isn't running means losing about 80k in opportunity cost, that is extremely expensive pepper then.

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every rl day that is

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btw speed boost is broken as well, it is 5hrs after my last harvest without apples and it should have been ripe after 4hrs already, will be ripe now, I guess, but that is then not speed boosted at all.

wary finch
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so definitely, speed boost from berry bushes isn't working, it took 10hrs to grow and the 2nd and 3rd harvest took 6hrs each,that is just like without speed boost. Furthermore I had again 4 trees with 24 apples and 1 with 16, harvest boost by plant isn't working reliably as well. sigh

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you can check that with berry bushes as well with quickly growing crop, rice, bok choy and so won't be ready in 2 days as it should.

cold blaze
wary finch
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I intended to have bought 3 plots and the gazebo by next sunday, which would be possible, if boosts would work properly.

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now every rl day costs me 25k due to not properly working boosts, this annoys me really a whole lot.

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Money I could make, but can't, because core game mechanics are broken.

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21,888g from apples I'm missing out every day, because they are coming in much slower and I can just utilize 16 jars instead of 24, this is really annoying.

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and this is if harvest boost would work properly, which it doesn't in 20% of cases, which is increasing the loss.

wary finch
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What is so frustrating to me is, that this hasn't been fixed yet (growth boost not working for blueberries and apple trees), it is the only boost of both top tier crops, this is a vital game mechanic in gardening. Why isn't it getting more attention?

dark hollow
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Do you guys have any lazy garden recommendations for a single apple tree and no blueberries? I have tried the planner but feel like I am missing something. I'd like to get as many crops as possible in there and maximize it until I can get another tree

scarlet birch
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i make most of my money off of bok choy, tomatoes, and potatoes, so i put more of those in

dark hollow
quaint summit
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Can be turned into this for more bonus and same number of crop

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dark hollow
vernal bluff
vernal bluff
past matrix
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Hey everyone! I looked up a bit but I'm unable to find what I'm looking for.
I wanted to create a no water no weed farm, pre blueberries and apples (But with corn, bok, cabbage and peppers)
Has anyone shared something like that?

vernal bluff
past matrix
vernal bluff
past matrix
vernal bluff
past matrix
dark hollow
wary finch
dark hollow
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Iā€™m gonna keep trying to learn chapaafire and become unstoppable

wary finch
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it is bit like cooking more complicated recipes, at start you have no clue, what has to be done in which order to stay in time, but once you get into the order and rhythm for a certain recipe, it gets addictive to the point that you want to be able to do it even quicker from time to time. It is with garden plans as well like it. Once you have done a couple yourself, you will be able to create a new layout quite fast.

dark hollow
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Do you guys have an ideal farm layout for max profit? That still uses all/most of the crops?

lilac crescent
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is there a way to speed up how long items take to do? like the presserves jar and seed maker?

harsh gorge
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Not that Iā€™m aware of. Pretty sure you just have to let them run

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
harsh gorge
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That has been such a great thing!

blazing ridge
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same tree that had the watering glitch just got it again. now it's gonna be 2 days behind

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I get back after 6 am, go to water my crops and one shows it as being watered already. I can't water it (drowing it in water doesn't do anything) and even changing servers or relogging doesn't fix it. it's just gets a day behind sadly

dark hollow
vernal bluff
# dark hollow Ooh I see! I play quite a lot and process my crops into seeds/preserves dependin...

Then can offer you these for pre 25 with all crops:

1)almost 100% lazy: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-01111_CROPS-CbPCoBkOBkRPCb-TPBkOSpSpCoSpSp-OBkWCbTCbCrCoCo-A.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.S-WOBkPCbPCoBkO-BkOCrPCbPWBkCo-A.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.S-PCoWCbCCbRBkP-B.HB.HBkB.HB.HTCBkCb

Or these after 25:

  1. 100%lazy https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-01111_CROPS-CbTCoBkOBkRTCb-TPOOSpSpCoSpSp-BkOWCbTCbCrBkO-AAAAAAAAA-WOBkPCbPCBkO-BkOCrPCbPWBkO-AAAAAAAAA-PBkWCbCCbRBkP-BBBkBBTCBkCb

2)u need to obly weed: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-01111_CROPS-CoPWWTRCrPCr-OPWBkTRCCbCr-B.SB.SPB.SB.STSp.SSp.SCb-CrA.SA.SWA.SA.SRA.SA.S-A.SPCrA.STWA.SCbR-CoPWWTRCrCbCr-Sp.SSp.SPB.SB.STB.SB.SCb-CrA.SA.SWA.SA.SRA.SA.S-A.SPCrA.STWA.SCbR

quaint summit
void wagon
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What's the best preserve to make money??frogbertderp

vernal bluff
void wagon
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Thx!

quartz sinew
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there is a high possibility I'm just not smart buuuut when I go to plant spicy pepper for the first time it says garden bed not empty? but it is? and I am confused.

sonic charm
quartz sinew
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I did not realize that lol thank you!! šŸ«”

sonic charm
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Np!

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Blueberries take 4 as well, and apples take 9 btw

quartz sinew
sonic charm
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Nice, Iā€™m sure youā€™ll get them soon majicare

runic vapor
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Do you need to put fertilizer on tomatoes every day?

odd cipher
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Does the flower limit also included trees that you planted?

runic vapor
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didnt know there was a flower limit

odd cipher
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Yeah the game told me that I reached my flower limit lol

runic vapor
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must be a lot of flowers, I feel like I have a ton of flowers

odd cipher
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I hope they lift that limit cause I really want more flowers on my plot

rapid maple
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What is the highest yield for highest profit layout?

wary finch
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but to give some figures - I would say 30-40k/rl day is mediocre, 60k is ok, but if you really push it, manage it in a smart way, it could possibly reach 3-figures. If growth boost of apple trees and blueberry bushes would work and harvest boost never fail, I could reach around 90k, with 20 advances of my garden every day and 28-30 crafters dedicated to running the farm.

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due to bugs, my actual income from farming and post-processing the produce is somewhere in between 60 and 70k per rl-day, these bugs cost me dearly.

dark hollow
alpine jasper
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were the benefits ever explained somewhere?

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wary finch
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every description of the seed bags has an explanation

blazing ridge
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if you did max carrot (with wheat for boost) you would need 25 preserves jars running just to use up the carrots. then if you wanted an even larger profit you would need worm farms to process the pickled carrots, 50 of them. get yourself 75 crafting licenses and 24 hourly water/harvests and you've got one of the best loadouts!
note: this isn't possible, find what works for you

wary finch
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one can do a lot with 30 crafters though, I'm pretty happy with having invested in this infrastructure.

wary finch
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the main factor isn't the layout, but the time you can spend on advancing your garden growth and to which degree you want to actively work your farm.

humble hatch
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Someone made this on the interwebs. and I use it. ALOT.

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dark hollow
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Is it better to seed or preserve cabbage, and what abt the peppers?

humble hatch
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never has weeds. and never needs to be watered

vernal bluff
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Awww the frog reaction is so cutehamsterPwease

dark hollow
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It's my favorite chapaafire and I noticed the frog pfp so I thought it was perfect LOL Also, I'm supposed to seed bok choy right?

vernal bluff
south night
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Anyone have recommendations for a lazy garden where I only have to water it once at level 7? Boyfriend is always out fishing and never wants to head back home lol

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Also, I now have preservers so what crops should be going in there? rikaStudying

quaint summit
south night
quaint summit
south night
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No pepper and it doesnā€™t matter! He has no preferences lol

quaint summit
south night
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tysm!!

vernal bluff
south night
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oh awesome thanks! and as for the preserving and what not, what crops should be going in there?

vernal bluff
quaint summit
quaint summit
vernal bluff
south night
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Would five preservers be enough to keep up? lolā€¦ Seems like I would need a lot then monkaS

vernal bluff
south night
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oh that is so smart i would have never thought of that. thanks for the help!! tishhug

vernal bluff
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So like jar is better pro hour if I calculated correctlyapplecat applecat

wary finch
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and pickled potatoes are really good for your first worm farm as well, creating worms for fishing and quality upgrade fertilizer for your garden.

past matrix
wet isle
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for selling seeds do you replant first and then sell the extra? and do you turn all the crops into seeds or just some?

idle canopy
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Whatā€™s the best, ā€œwater and forgetā€ layout if Iā€™m trying to incorporate apples and blueberries?

vernal bluff
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Not too much though ahahah, but I tried my bestchapaafire

past matrix
vernal bluff
past matrix
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You are an absolute MVP @vernal bluff

wet isle
vernal bluff
# idle canopy Whatā€™s the best, ā€œwater and forgetā€ layout if Iā€™m trying to incorporate apples a...

100% harvest+water, every crop at least one time

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-01111_CROPS-CoPWWTRCrPCr-OPWBkTRCCbCr-B.SB.SPB.SB.STSp.SSp.SCb-CrA.SA.SWA.SA.SRA.SA.S-A.SPCrA.STWA.SCbR-CoPWWTRCrCbCr-Sp.SSp.SPB.SB.STB.SB.SCb-CrA.SA.SWA.SA.SRA.SA.S-A.SPCrA.STWA.SCbR

100% lazy layout (2harvested apples +1bush)

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-01111_CROPS-POBCbBkBPOCb-BWCbBOBkPCbP-PWPOBkOWPCb-CbAABkAAWAA-APCbAOBkACbP-BkOBkOCbOBkPW-AAAAAAAAA-BkOWPCbPWOBk-WPCbBkOBkPCbW

100% lazy layout (3 harvest apples+ 1bush)

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-01111_CROPS-WBkPPOCbCbBkW-AAAAAAAAA-BkOWCbTCbWBkO-AAAAAAAAA-WOBkPCbPOBkO-OBkWPCbPWBkO-AAAAAAAAA-POWCbBkCbWOP-BBBkBBTOBkCb

100% lazy layout (2 harvest apples + 3 bushes)

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-01111_CROPS-BkOBkPCbBBkOB-CbPOBSpSpBSpSp-BkOWCbTCbWBkO-AAAAAAAAA-WOBkPCbPOBkO-BkOWPCbPWBkO-AAAAAAAAA-POWCbBkCbWOP-BBBkBBTOBkCb

100 lazy layout (2applea+2 bushes, all crops)

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-01111_CROPS-CbTCoBkOBkRTCb-TPOOSpSpCoSpSp-BkOWCbTCbCrBkO-AAAAAAAAA-WOBkPCbPCBkO-BkOCrPCbPWBkO-AAAAAAAAA-PBkWCbCCbRBkP-BBBkBBTCBkCb

3x3

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-BkCWTPRAAA-TPCCTBkBkPC-RTBkCrPCAAA-AAAAAAPBkC-WTBkRPWBkCP-AAAAAATPR-CbCCbSpSpPSpSpBk-PBBCrBBOPCb-BkOBkCrPTOBkCo

idle canopy
vernal bluff
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Here are the ones I have madechapaafire

open knoll
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Mods?

odd cipher
# wet isle for selling seeds do you replant first and then sell the extra? and do you turn ...

Replant first and calculate how many seeds you will need for your next replant then take that many crops and put it into your seed collectors. Baring in mind that some crops require more of them to make seeds. Itā€™s good to keep double the amount of seeds ready for planting so that if you donā€™t have enough crops to fill the seed collector you got a back up. Otherwise it will slow the process down.

wet isle
wary finch
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with seed collectors there is to know, that you can stop the process without losing the crop in process, if you really urgently need to seed something else - the time is lost ofc, but you will get the crop back to your chest inventory.

simple yoke
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Question:
Fertilizer. I noticed it wears off before a crop is ready to harvest. If it Does wear off before harvest, will the boost still happen? or Does it matter when applying it?

wary finch
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you normally need 1 fertilizer unit every day, 4 for 2x2 crop, and 9 for apple trees. The fertiliser is just not used, if the plant gets the boost already from companion planting. If you miss a tick, this is decreasing the chance of the boost to have effect.

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like you grow something with 4 days to harvest, you miss a tick, then there is a 25% chance, that the boost won't happen.

empty kindle
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What do you think about my garden layout?
The following criteria were taken into account:
Neglects quality boost, since from level 25 only star harvest is generally obtained from star seeds.
Apples, blueberries and peppers grow even when you're AFK.
These plants are permanently protected from weeds and remain watered.
Apple trees have every relevant bonus
Harvest Boost for blueberries and Speed ā€‹ā€‹Grow for peppers to make the whole thing really clear and easy to push.
Additional fertilizers depending on what the additional effort is worth.
ALL currently available seeds are used. This means you are not dependent on anyone.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PCrBkBkRATCbA-TRCbAACAAT-CoOPWSpSpCSpSp-WCACoOBCrPB-AABBCrBBAA-BPCrBOCoACW-SpSpCSpSpWPOCo-TAACAACbRT-ACbTARBkBkCrP

blazing ridge
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I don't think anyone will ever continually need all crops. you'll cook star dishes, finish the achievements, and then move on to a simple build. harvesting and replanting so many different crops as often as they will need it will become tedious. along with constantly checking your layout/plan to make sure you didn't mess up

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pre cooking achievements? plant what you need
post cooking/gold farming? go lazy and boring

wary finch
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my 3rd character just got her 1 million gold coins earned achievement, I'm all for a managed garden, not a lazy one.

blazing ridge
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I have no idea what I'm at. all my gold now goes to zeki coins or buying materials, because buying 50 silk is just easier

wary finch
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it is hard for me to say as well, as I run 4 characters alternating, each for a certain amount of time, while the others pause. So what my total is, can't really say, well over 3 million though.

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character 3 has to buy 3 plots and the gazebo still, so it's all relative.

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I agree to what you said about not needing all crops all at once. I just farm what I need, which can change with the recipes I'm currently using most of the time - and those depend in return on their requirements on wheat, corn and rice - not doing a lot what doesn't require those.

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constantly checking your layout plan is not an issue though, because if you manage your garden actively, you know the layout by heart in no time. I could redo all those gardens, I ever actually had in game, without to look at a garden plan, just because I worked them so often, to not forget them.

open temple
hushed bramble
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best veg to plant for highest profit? tia šŸ˜„

maiden prairie
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Is it possible to dig up a seed you planted accidentally?

vernal bluff
maiden prairie
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thank you!! Do you know how to do it on switch?

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Nevermind I figured it out, thank you!!

vernal bluff
winged sequoia
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question: is there any furniture that will allow me to refill the watering can? I kinda wanna put the garden in the back of the house, but I'm worried about needing to access the pond for water

blazing ridge
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after level 10 you unlock the gardening guild store from badruu, he sells a well decor item for guild coins, you can refill from that. only item currently that let's you do that

winged sequoia
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ooh, I see! thank u!

wary finch
# open temple why so many?

well, it is not my fault, that s6 has limited us to one character per account and I want to try out different things in parallel, not one after the other, and this way I can do that. I'm not sure, which one I will play in the end and I might have to chose one, which I can link to steam and hopefully buy palia coins with my steam wallet (is this possible?). It is as well not my fault, that s6 isn't offering an anonymous payment method like steam does it and I'm not using a credit card with a gaming company by various reasons, it is not about trust though.

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Then there is the problem of eventually hitting a wall, where I'm losing interest. I'm neither a quester nor a collector type and entrepreneurial endeavors are very limited in Palia. For now I can go around this by having several accounts.

signal sierra
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Oh snap youā€™re right. They donā€™t really have an economy. I hadnā€™t really thought about that. A trade system would be good.

wary finch
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I guess that won't come, the whole game seems to have a different vibe.

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the gold cap makes it anyway useless. If money is just a number on an account and you can't really do something with it, it gets pointless.

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This is the next reason, why to have several accounts, I like the build up from scratch, but once it is established and running fine, where is my next big goal? There is none really.

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But I encountered this problem as well in games with very good economies, in one I have 11 trillionaires, was fun doing that, but I don't need to do that a 12st time, because the problem is always the same: I could afford everything, but I want nothing really, either because I have it already multiple times or it is just not worth having.

copper valley
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when one batch of apples gets you 96 but the other only 72 šŸ’”

wary finch
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that is what I pointed out, harvest boost is sometimes failing, even if it is plant-based boosted. But it is not the only boost failing, plant-based speed boost isn't working at all.

upper mist
wary finch
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that is the info - speed boost of blueberries and apple trees not working at all, harvest boost failing sometimes ( on my apple trees with about a 20% failure rate)

upper mist
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if you have any info on when it's failing vs when it doesn't, that could be the key to the solution!!!

wary finch
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speed boost: always, harvest boost 20% on apple trees, this is the info

upper mist
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my trees failed a lot too but somehow they fixed themselves so I can't test it anymore chapaafire

upper mist
wary finch
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makes no difference, sometimes I'm at it before the tick, when I know that the garden is still watered, sometimes after the tick, especially when I know, that it has stopped growing. I don't have the time to be in game 18-20 ticks per rl day, but I can login that often to advance the garden, but this shouldn't matter - s6 has the code base, they just have to check their routines, this cannot take that long

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I don't have a weed plot, that might be convenient, but it is as well losing 11.11% of production capacity to convenience. I run a managed high yield garden, this is why these bugs bother me that much.

upper mist
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never asked for you to be on that long, but its certainly easier to find a bug when they know exactly where/what variables to look for. I know your pain though, as a gardening enthousiast it frustrates me too. Lets hope they find the bug soon majicare

wary finch
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I meant it in a different way - I try to advance my garden as often as I possibly can, but like any normal human being, I have an rl and quite a bit to accomplish there as well, so I login in often, do some farm stuff and log out again - this is most of the week this way, my vacation is over already.

tawny ore
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i've had luck with growth boost in some very fiddly conditions - the crop to be boosted needs to already have had at least one growth day, and i need to log on and stay on my plot from before midnight in-game time all the way to the growth tick. in earlier patches it also seemed to matter whether i was using the tick on an even or odd hour, but i haven't watched it as closely of late. i did just let my crops all clear so i could test whether the growth boost was causing the harvest boost to fail sporadically, hopefully it'll shed more light on things

reef hemlock
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I just came back to Palia and I know I have bad farming layout, but I really only care about apples and blueberries, and money

This layout is good enough for me but im not sure what else to really do on the other tiles -I used to just plant tomatos due to multiple harvests but I reckon I should probably ask on here and see what you folks reckon

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copper valley
upper mist
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(when it works ofc :D)

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I love your gardenfences btw!

reef hemlock
# upper mist Maybe some wheat/rice/corn to get a bit more harvest!

is there a specific pattern that you would suggest? I recall each crop having an effect on the crops around them but all of it goes over my head sadly

also thank you! I can't really get a good screenshot that shows it off but I've only really done the frontyard and 5 rooms (if you'd like to see feel free to throw me a DM about it)

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upper mist
reef hemlock
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the fences were a pain but worth it xD

upper mist
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I'll take a look at a pattern, I'll let you know if I find something pleasing to my eyes šŸ˜„

vernal bluff
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And about pattern: if u want to get more corn/rice/wheat as well just make sure to place two kind of them near each otherchapaafire

reef hemlock
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so something like this?

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upper mist
# reef hemlock

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-BBWBBRBBW-AAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAA-BBRBBWBBR-AAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAA-TRWBBRBBT-RWRBBBBBB-WRWBBBBBB This is possible with the pattern you got going now, only the appletree in the top right corner would need harvestboost fertillizer for the full boost if you'd want that! But I don't think I'll be able to put 7 blueberries into a pattern with 4 appletrees and still give everything growthboost + harvest boost šŸ¤” but I got other patterns that you might like

upper mist
reef hemlock
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that single apple being untouched is fine considering it could be good to have an out of sync apple tree considering I forget to reseed sometimes

upper mist
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I just added 2 tomatoes haha

reef hemlock
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what are the tomatos doing? or just for extra crop value o: ?

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im so glad that they're similar, im catching on to what you were all explanining astridsparkles

upper mist
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that blueberry in the corner only needs 2 adjacency to a boost to get it, so putting 4 of the same boost next to it would be overkill, and you said you liked tomatoes šŸ˜„ but you can also put anything else in their place!

reef hemlock
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astridsparkles awesome

upper mist
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sorry I type a bit slow haha, I injured my left hand so I only type with 1 chapaafire

reef hemlock
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thank you so much for the help astridhypestrid

upper mist
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no worries, glad to help šŸ˜„

reef hemlock
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Ah its all good no stress! I hope you recover quickly and rest well ;-;

upper mist
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but yeah blueberries need 2 adjacency, appletrees 3 to catch a boost!

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but if you got more questions feel free to ask!

upper mist
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and ofc the rice/wheat can be switched out for corn at any time

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would only need daily watering/weeding, or 1 of the 2 if you choose to put fertilizer on it

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and this one would need growthboost fert but ofc it has 0 apples

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and if you don't need cotton I can make a variation ofc

upper mist
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(carrots are actually quite a good money maker too)

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but I can ramble about gardening all day so I'll not monologue further, thanks for joining my tedtalk šŸ¤£

reef hemlock
upper mist
reef hemlock
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really thank you, I'm so glad to be able to quiet my mind whispering "your not min maxing where you should be"

upper mist
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no problem, I hope it brings you much joy šŸ˜„

vernal bluff
reef hemlock
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its mirrored this way

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well kinda

upper mist
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I moved 1 blueberry buch back to the middle and pushed another blueberry out šŸ˜„

reef hemlock
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im not fully sure what it is but my brain knows, it noticed a pattern, and it liked it
I just wish I understood it but my brain wont tell me

vernal bluff
upper mist
vernal bluff
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Thatā€™s a huge adorable lil cat ahahahahpopcat

upper mist
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(I wish I had a bigger one but this is it chapaafire )

vernal bluff
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Gardening channel? No itā€™s a big lil jumpy cat channelapplecat

upper mist
# reef hemlock im not fully sure what it is but my brain knows, it noticed a pattern, and it li...

so, the appletrees need 3 of the same boost in order for a boost to stick to them, blueberries need 2. So Appletrees need 3 slots of blueberrybush before they get the growthboost, and a set of 3 wheat/rice/corn (any combo) to get the harvestboost, and blueberries 2 slots of appletree and a combo of 2 rice/wheat/corn (or any other same-boost crop, depending on the boost you want). Then you get to the 1-tile crops: Wheat/rice/corn may carry the same boost, but wheat-wheat can't boost eachother, so it either needs to be rice-wheat or wheat-corn or rice-corn before they get their boost (but since its a 1-tile crop, they only need to be next to 1 of their companion plants for a boost to carry over). Does that translate it a bit?

tall egret
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and weeds are 9 gold each. thats a nice allowance, lol.

molten cloud
thick narwhal
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how to get apples o.o

wary finch
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the normal long way is at gardening level 10+ bought with 280 gardening medals, but this takes a while. Then you could be lucky and win an apple seed at zeki's machine. And the 3rd way is by befriending a certain villager (I just don't know, whom exactly).

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My personal suggestion: Don't go for apples too early in the game, they take awfully long to grow and your progress meanwhile will be slow, not to talk about lack of steady income, because you will need all those apples to make seeds for more trees, which can as well take quite a while, because when you are low level in gardening, you might get mixed quality apples and it can take a while until you have 10 apples of the same quality level to make another seed.

thick narwhal
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ooo okay thank you^^ whats the best crop for lvling?

wary finch
thick narwhal
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ooo okay thank youuu

plucky raven
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So anyone else growing flow trees and how it coming? my little trees are coming along LOL

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blazing ridge
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I have 12 fully grown. I've gotten 2 acorn and 1 samara. still waiting on juniper

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fierce gulch
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Hello, sorry in advance for my English! Is there any point in putting qualityup fertilizer on star seeds please ?

reef hemlock
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oh I didnt know you could get flowtrees at home thats cool

reef hemlock
thick narwhal
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how to get flow tree seedling?

upper mist
teal gull
upper mist
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no worries your english is great btw šŸ˜„ if you have any more questions feel free to ask!

fierce gulch
tall egret
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Where is that spreadsheet done by that genius back in the day that gave us all the gold outcomes per crop and worm farms?

upper mist
ocean heart
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wish i could give one star apples to bundles t.t

molten cloud
zenith tapir
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He guys, is there a faster way to get flow acorns and samaras and stuff or do I just need to be patient?

formal birch
fierce gulch
ocean heart
wary finch
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My last 20 apple tree harvests were all 24 apples each, I wonder, if s6 has corrected harvest boost already or if it is just luck. Before I had a 20% failure rate, but 20 times in a row perfect result would be extremely lucky or they fixed it.

reef hemlock
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Do apples trees ever die? I feel like ive gotten 10 harvests out of these trees

vernal bluff
wary finch
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fully cycle is 30 in game days (would be just 20 speed boosted,if it would work that is), 12 days to first harvest, then 3x 6 days for the following harvests.

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40 minutes to my last harvest, then 12 hrs until the next, because I have to replant my trees. This is the time where it bothers me the most that speed boost isn't working.

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my setup is made to bridge 8 hrs, with full production, not 12hrs.

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So I will have to preserve worthless crap for 4hrs in 24 jars, this bothers me really a lot.

fallow idol
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Best Tip for you guy haha . 100% water and other about 50%.

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blazing ridge
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anyone new to the garden channel, check the media tab (like you would check pins) for a lot of different layouts

knotty saffron
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How the hell do you untill your plot

blazing ridge
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so that you can pick it up? you have to plant something and let it happen naturally. go with something fast growing

knotty saffron
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Damn that sucks you canā€™t do it manually

blazing ridge
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debating selling off all the crops and seeds in my inventory for space, since I can just buy both if I ever need them

spice elbow
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Do you have the full 10,000 slots of storage yet?

blazing ridge
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yeah. and I hover around max a lot. I swear I can't have 10k things in storage. sold off my non-star seeds and just gonna use the crops for focus. still at 8k right now

spice elbow
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Hmm

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How many seeds of each do you have? I manage my inventory by selling about half my stock at a time

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Ever since I upgraded I don't have that huge of a storage problem

fossil birch
spice elbow
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Also I generally don't need to keep more than 10 or more crops of each type. Most can be sold with a few left to use as gifts or for cooking

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Though the price scaling in the game is wild. I was surprised to find that star tomato seeds are more valuable than the star tomatoes themselves

fossil birch
upbeat granite
blazing ridge
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complete the temple of roots bundle, you get a daily seed from the decor item (like the bird egg). it can be a flow seed if lucky. I've gotten 3 so far

upbeat granite
blazing ridge
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the base of the little Gardner statue. at daily reset (midnight) a little pouch will appear

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the irl daily reset, not each hour

upbeat granite
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ah i see

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thank you for the information

wary finch
# blazing ridge yeah. and I hover around max a lot. I swear I can't have 10k things in storage. ...

you gather a lot of flint and plant fiber over time, this can easily go in the thousands and one doesn't really pay attention to those. Then left over fertilizer, like quality upgrade, which you never need again, maybe you have a lot of that left over as well. And non-flow planks, thousands of those maybe, even you could just buy them at sifuu's, if you really need more than a few hundred. Similar with bricks and ceramics and clay and stones, maybe you have more of those than you need.

blazing ridge
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yeah I've been mindful to keep that stuff low by using drafters as storage. I tried counting my inventory earlier and I think my wood tab had like 3k, but idk where the other 5k is, most of the other tabs don't have that much stuff

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think I'll audit my storage and see if it's correct lol

wary finch
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hm, seeds cannot really be it, 30 star seeds of each crop type are just 390 in total.

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meat can amass really quickly as well, if you like hunting.

blazing ridge
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dang. 1116 just in my food tab

wary finch
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or hide and fur, in amounts you'll never need them.

blazing ridge
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1394 in crop tab. okay, maybe it's right and these small stacks add up

wary finch
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they do of course, all these small things add up, same with bugs, you might have more bugs than you expect.

spice elbow
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I try to avoid collecting stuff that I don't need

blazing ridge
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bugs is only 294. already condensed that to just rares

wary finch
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same, my intentory is around 6000, but I have 2000 glow worms in stock.

spice elbow
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That many? Why?

wary finch
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that I don't have to run glow worm farms again for a while, I have 10 of those

spice elbow
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I don't think I've ever had more than 400 of one item

blazing ridge
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I have 1100 worms, but 1k are in the crafters

spice elbow
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Yeah just don't produce that many worms

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One thing that helps is the fact that my inventory is limited

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So I won't carry more than one stack of arrows or smoke bombs on a trip so that I have space for other things

wary finch
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and produce is not stacking up, I run 4 seeders and 24 jars, I can process everything quickly.

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average wait time of crop to be processed is less 2 days.

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hm, 400 of one item - when I go out chopping wood I come home with about 1200-1500, 400 I would have in a short amount of time.

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that is enough then to build a complete house.

blazing ridge
wary finch
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bottom row, smoke bombs, arrows, food, repair kits, next row is for farming purposes, rest is work space

spice elbow
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Oh I never carry repair kits

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Just leave them at the house, then repair when you get home

blazing ridge
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or in a pinch, for gold at one of the anvils

tall egret
wary finch
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harvest boost isn't fixed yet - again 1 of 5 trees failed and just gave 16 apples.

barren oracle
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omg i need these tree dirt patches gone i just want a wall of trees but the dirt takes up a planetā€™s worth of surface area

harsh gorge
barren oracle
harsh gorge
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Yeah just checked the Palia status and news area. Nothing other than that they are aware we all dislike the dirt piles and have passed the info on

hallow yacht
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hi I wanna ask whether I should sell the starred crops directly, not very deep into the game yet only at gardening 3

acoustic current
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Finnaly lvl 10 at cooking so i can focus on profit rather then having every ingredient
Its kinda organized so still love it

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wary finch
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This fertilizer can be produced in a worm farm, it's recipe can be acquired with levelling fishing.

hallow yacht
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also I tried using quality up on crops that already have it but it dont work I think

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it already have quality up because cotton is next to it

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cause Im feeling like Im dumbing moeny into gardening but not sellign crops is not giving me any profit

pallid latch
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Hi, I saw a list that says it's better to sell rice & potatoes as seeds. Wouldn't it be better to sell them as crops or am i missing something?

hallow yacht
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turning into seeds sells for more

pallid latch
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hmmm

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can you explain? Never really understood it qwq

hallow yacht
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like each potato sells for 45, but turning into seed will sell for 80, but it takes time

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so I want to just sell them lol

pallid latch
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45 are the non-starred potatoes right? How about the starred ones

hallow yacht
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then it will turn into starred seeds and I think those are better planted

pallid latch
full cradle
acoustic current
full cradle
acoustic current
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Uu ok wiln try

full cradle
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This is my current plot layout, I only have to water it once then I can ignore it till harvest

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I like that gardening can either be a simple planting stuff or a complex puzzle

wary finch
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it is as well not a 100% chance, fertilizer or cotton adds 50% to your chance, which is level times 2%, so at level 4 you get with normal seeds a chance of 58% to get star crop. With star seeds it is nearly 100%,

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you need as well to apply it every tick, because otherwise the chance is reduced.

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harvests produce sometimes an extra seed, so if the amount is higher than expected, it can come from this.

dawn moon
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dawn moon
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I used this earlier. It was good for money, but I got tired after a while

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full cradle
dawn moon
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I don't think so, I'm using because I'm barely at lvl 10

full cradle
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ahhh then that is a solid strat

dawn moon
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Yeah, just a bit too much work after a while

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But apple trees are like all the other crops? I mean you have to keep replanting them or you plant them only once?

full cradle
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you have to keep replanting them and to get a buff on it you need 3 of the same buff next to it. The tomato, blue berry, pepper, and apple tree can be harvested multiple times before replanting

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Making a good apple tree plot get complicated, I think a diagonal line of apple trees though is the best apple plot start

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This is how I start my apple plot

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blazing ridge
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the best tip for starting a layout is figuring out what buffs you want from crops. if you want water and weed on an apple tree then you need 6 adjacent squares available. this limits placement and quantity when doing 2x2 and 3x3 crops

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an apple tree placed in a corner will at best receive 2 crop buffs, since 6 of its 12 adjacent tiles are inherently blocked

stable ginkgo
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Anyone have a layout with a single boost where the boosting crop is only taking up 20 or fewer spots while still boosting all of the other crop type.(I'm stuck at missing 1 tile) Interested in checking my work for a future video.
A fellow min maxer, @wary finch think it's possible?

blazing ridge
full cradle
stable ginkgo
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maximizing 3 growth crop while still finding best revenue

full cradle
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I see, well kinda.

stable ginkgo
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well, i should say only using 3 day growth crop without missing out on too much revenue

blazing ridge
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if you swap the bok to carrot you will need something like 24+ preserve jars to keep up with the harvest. it was something like that

stable ginkgo
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I'm coming up with 18-19 so still a sizable amount if someone were to play constantly (whoops, I'm looking at seeds, carrot preserves would be about 27, so yeah, that's a LOT!

full cradle
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I never was good with min maxing. I stick with interlacing 2 hydrations plants with 2 weed prevention plants, if I feel like extra I throw some harvest boost fertilizer or speed boost on it.

blazing ridge
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I do 8 apple trees. 7 harvest boosted from wheat, 1 from fert. gets me more than enough money and requires just watering, while not having to replant over and over and over

dawn moon
stable ginkgo
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You'd seed some of the crops to make your own seeds and replant that way

full cradle
dawn moon
full cradle
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Yep the last seeds I bought was when I accidently pickled all of something and forgot to make more seeds first.

dawn moon
full cradle
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thinking of what is the max crafting license

ocean heart
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why is there a flower limit if we can't store our flowers t.t

slow flame
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How r u guys getting so many flowers. I did 5 n said enough for now

ocean heart
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planting seeds and catching bugs?

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i was gonna havethem line my property

slow flame
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Oh ye I forgot you got them as drops.šŸ˜­ they should fix the bug not allowing you to store it in the future

ocean heart
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yeah i just dunno what to do with my extras

slow flame
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Second plot them for now?

ocean heart
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i guess i gotta sell em. but i still wish i could place more

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that makes senes. i have haven't actually made a second yet

slow flame
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Neither have I but I heard someone using a second one for trees. So maybe putting them there is an option.

ocean heart
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i need the money to purchase first t.t

slow flame
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Oof ye, you can do it!āœØ And your idea for your main plot sounds nice.