#šŸŒ±ā”‚gardening

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verbal bridge
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Yeah. Iā€™m just starting out on my gardening kind of so Iā€™m you know

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Trying to find a balance between $$$ and uh well

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Growing

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And seeding

rustic compass
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I made too much seed it filled my storage to the max chapyattasigh

clear kindle
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with seeding, you only want to keep as much as you need to replant your crops, everything else can be sold

dusty kayak
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Just gotta leave one spot open if you want to make more seeds

rustic compass
dusty kayak
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Put em back in lol

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Thats what i do

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Same with wood planks

rustic compass
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you can do that??

clear kindle
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wait, you can put things back into the machines?

acoustic laurel
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Some machines you can't. You definitely can with the wood/forge tho. I haven't tried with worms and seeders

snow ether
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hey

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does growth boost from blueberry stack with SpeedyGro fertilizer?

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this is probably a faq, but nothing is pinned :/

restive elm
tropic ermine
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Thank you so much for sharing this!

fossil pond
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Whatā€™s the best item to make the most glow worms? I canā€™t seem to find anything that gives more than 2.

urban chasm
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I mean reddit. we are on discord.

terse crag
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fertilizer (harvest/speedGro) = 2 + value/10 [rounded; midpoint rounded down]

regular worm = 2 + value/10 [rounded; midpoint rounded down]

quality fert = 6 + value/4 [rounded down]```

if this is still true you'd just want something with lots of value
clear kindle
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star quality apple jam gives 3 glow worms.

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if you are able to join multiple cake parties however, celebration cakes give 4-5 glow worms/hour

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those are the two i believe to be the easiest ones to do

snow ether
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agreed - apple/blueberry jams 2-3 glow worms, celebration cake 4-5 glow worms depending on quality and number of apples used

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also grilled fish made from uncommon fish such as cactus muray will give you 3 or 4 glow worms but I found that it's all just taking too much effort and it's much easier to just dump tons of blueberries to make jam and then dump max amount of jams to the glow worm box

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I still got no answer, so I will try again:
does growth boost from blueberry stack with SpeedyGro fertilizer?

frail escarp
wary finch
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well, if you buy anything at zeki's, he will send you a coin for his lucky machine.

dusty kayak
limpid plinth
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new farming layout with new veggies? are they worth it

hybrid bolt
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what is the max number of plots we can have

limpid plinth
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9

hybrid bolt
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ok thanks

snow ether
stark quarry
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my current farm

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harsh nexus
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Good morning,what is better please? first buy blueberries or wait fo apples and after buy blueberries

acoustic laurel
rain storm
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Does anyone have a layout for all cooking ingredients?

brave rover
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What's the best layout currently for maximum profit?

nova yoke
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The right side isn't very symmetrical, but it was all I could figure to do to make sure the peppers had water retain.

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I think that's every cooking crop? I doubt it's the best but hey, it works out.

rain storm
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nice one thanks @nova yoke !

nova yoke
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If you'd prefer full weed prevention, I can try to rearrange it some more,

rain storm
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hmm i was mainly after abit of both weed/water.
i dont mind harvest boost as i use ferti for it.

bold sapphire
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this bothers me so much

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clear kindle
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that should be just visual glitch

foggy grove
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Any 100 weed/water using all the seeds?

silver gyro
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What's the best crop to put in the preserve jars for profit?

dusty kayak
clear kindle
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i'm with sen aka

silver gyro
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Great, thank you šŸ˜Š

wary finch
wary finch
clear wing
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Does harvest boost fertilizer stack with harvest boost buff from a nearby crop?

clear kindle
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no, you get the buff from the crops nearby

coral frost
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The pure joy of gardening

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slender oyster
coral frost
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I started playing on Switch Dec 14, and not sure if this actually good or not

robust thistle
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weeds cant move right?

coral frost
robust thistle
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yeah

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i was growing a weed plot, had 8/9 weeds where i wanted them, came back and they were all move to random locations. so i think someone stopped by and weeded it lol

coral frost
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Yea, you think didn't notice them on your plot?

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Person who weeded

robust thistle
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no, was afk

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like, alt tabbed doing other stuff

coral frost
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Yea, understand

coral frost
robust thistle
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yeah not too worried about it

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need to get 1000 weeds for the accomplishment anyways

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so restarting weed plot lol

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i always do weed prevention and water retention plots

rain storm
fossil pond
coral frost
fossil pond
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Thx. I have 8 and it doesnā€™t seem to be enough.

coral frost
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Ty

rain storm
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for reals do seeds they give more money, but if you can do all worms, seeds and jars !! then $$$$$$$$$

coral frost
coral frost
fossil pond
rain storm
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oh wow thats awesome, i keep 100 each as a backup

rain storm
fossil pond
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I havenā€™t calculated the bok choy šŸ˜‚

coral frost
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I love this game, everyone is so awesome and helpful! sweetleaf

rain storm
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1x Bok Choy = 45g you get 4seeds per 1, 4seeds = 88g (almost double per 1bokchoy)

fossil pond
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Iā€™m sorry I didnā€™t calculate the new crops. My statement is for the older ones.

coral frost
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All good

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We all learn together

wary finch
wary finch
rain storm
stark quarry
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but the kimchi is faster by 12 min

wary finch
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I tested napa cabbage kimchi in normal worm farms, it is like pickled corn, 11/28 for the starred version.

pearl geode
harsh nexus
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Hello anyone have please 100% water retention +- all croops farm without apples? thanks

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I have this but its not 100% šŸ˜„

digital tapir
harsh nexus
digital tapir
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Youre welcome.

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Hopefully it has what you were looking for

bold sapphire
snow ether
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use Weed Prevention fertilizer. The idea is to have max amount of apple tree and blueberry bushes with all of them speed boosted from crops and water retained as well as harvest boost on the apple trees. Plant in the middle of your choice as it will only have speed boost, might as well be empty lol
I plan to keep most plants ungathered to make it an afk farm for the blueberries and apples, as I won't be using anything else - Apple Pie is best for focus per task(minigame) and Apple/Blueberry jams are best afk food for Worms
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you can pick up corn for selling and do pick up wheat when running low for making more pies

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I would appreciate it if someone were able to calcualte what is more profitable - harvest boost on 1 apple tree or harvest boost on 4 blueberries bushes. My guts tell me it's the latter

stark totem
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is quality boost helpful if i'm already using all star seeds?

dusty kayak
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before level 25, yes

stark totem
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but after 25, useless? i'm halfway through level 24 lol

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i also really like having non-star seeds to use for cooking so i'm trying to prolong reaching level 25

dusty kayak
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yeah after 25 you'll only need to care about quality boosting regular seeds

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until level 50

stark totem
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so i won't get any regular crops from star seeds? :(

dusty kayak
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pretty hard after level 25 yeah

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to get something regular quality

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it only sucks in that 1. you can't give it to requests and 2. making fabric will always be a loss in worth lol

stark totem
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if i'm cooking can i use some star quality and some regular things, or does everything have to be star quality

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?

acoustic laurel
dusty kayak
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you can use starred potatoes and unstarred carrots, but you cannot use both starred and unstarred potatoes, if that makes sense

stark totem
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ohh okay thanks guys!

maiden python
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It's been a looooooong road to 100 and I've still got stuff to learn.

snow ether
maiden python
# snow ether what stuff to learn? šŸ¤£

Haha not too much, I guess. šŸ˜… Really, just the most efficient layouts for making gold, what crop processing yields the best returns-per-hour/day, and what the optimal amount of each crafter I should have for my layout.

wise ruin
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lol sacrificed a couple Apple Trees to make a layout meant for hosting Cake Parties as the Starter.

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nova yoke
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Okay I actually like that one a lot, manager to somehow get more of the weed prevention in too.

maiden python
snow ether
maiden python
wise ruin
wise ruin
maiden python
# wise ruin lol that's a lot of different fertilizer

Oh yeah, yours is definitely on point for the blueberries and apples. I would not want to maintain the last layout I made lol. I use a no fert 100% weed/water all crops layout now. I only do occasional cooking parties and am good on gold.

wise ruin
rigid sapphire
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I wish we had more single space regrowables

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like a little 1x1 grape trellis

wary finch
nova yoke
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I'm currently running this, (replacing the weed prevention with whatever crop you find yourself in need of,) and I'm usually getting pretty solid income.

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snow ether
nova yoke
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That looks like a weird version of the windmill layout

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That has 8 berries and 4 apples,

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Too bad there's not a 1 x 1 crop that offers growth boost. Would have been great.

snow ether
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this windmill layout doesnt have harvest boost nor weed prevention, fertilizer won't solve both of these issues šŸ˜¦

wary finch
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this layout is kinda weird, because pre-level 25 using normal seeds but using quality upgrade fertilizers on all crops generates 4.8k/day with post-processing calculated over 360 days. whereas post-level 25 without fertilizer using all starred seeds it is just 4.6k/day.

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both variants are 100% harvest, speed, quality boosted.

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ok, the difference is just marginal, but it saves the hassle of having all starred seeds ready, if using seeds from zeki's generates better results.

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But it could be, that the experimental feature of growth boost calculation and replant costs in the planner leads to inconsistent results, I had values of 5.25k/day with layouts, which now show 4.8k/day or even 4.6k/day - so yeah, take it with a grain of salt.

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hm, playing around with the planned post-processing creates results between 4.6 and 5.25k per day, it is basically that, what's causing the difference.

slow flame
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pls help me, I cant pick šŸ™„ trying to make a new layout with the new crops and trying to add 100% weedblock besides the 100% water because I keep forgetting to check it daily

first one has the highest profit, but it doesnt have any apple and it doesnt have 100% weed block, so not sure how I feel about it.

second one does have everything I want, but it has the lowest profit and Im not sure how i feel about having so little rice and wheat as I use it a lot in cooking (use it in my main food source).

third one has more profit and all crops, but barely more than half has weed block. though the weed block is on the most important crops (in my opinion), but I kinda wanted full weed block so idk.

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summer pilot
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@slow flameyou can send me a dm if you like

slow flame
feral oasis
wary finch
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if you need a lot of rice and wheat, plant it in between blueberries, that both gets the speed boost from blueberries and both provide harvest boost to those blueberries. You can use blueberry jam as well as food source.

slow flame
wary finch
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you will have to harvest that rice every other day, so think about if you really need weed protection and water retain.

feral oasis
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If harvesting every other day you can also weed yeah think

forest python
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Hi! I canā€™t seem to find an answer online, but can I move my garden to a second or third housing plot? Or are they forever on the main plot?

wary finch
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you can pick it up when it is clean and sandy again, you can achieve that with using your hoe with right mouse button.

feral oasis
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They will grow on the second plot if you do it tho and are one 1st plot setting

summer pilot
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@slow flameif you wanna more profit from your gardening, make apple jam.

forest python
wary finch
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but you have a global total of 9 plots, not 9 on each housing area.

forest python
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Or can I access them from both places?

wary finch
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you need to pick them up and put it down somewhere else. But like I said, they have to be empty and sandy to pick them up.

forest python
slow flame
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I decided to put the 7 layouts I made this afternoon & my current layout in a spreadsheet so its easier to compare, I shouldnt worry about that wheat and rice amount lol

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final question is: is one spicy pepper enough for my cooking...

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this one is the best I got atm, just not sure if one spicy pepper is enough for the cooking, as I use chili oil dumplings as main food

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I would be going from 4 spicy pepper to 1 XD

azure badger
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Is it not worth it to put apples and tomatoes in preserves

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Forget the price difference

dusty kayak
ember quartz
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what's the faster way to rank up on Gardening? i am slowly leveling up šŸ„²

dusty kayak
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once you do apples, you level like twice an IRL day at least until the levels get passed 50 lol

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can get apples quickly by befriending ||naio or zeki|| to level 3

ember quartz
maiden python
peak spear
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anyone have the doc that broke down the profits of seeds/preserves/worm by the hour?

wise ruin
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Whereas my blueberries has the same boosts (excluding weed prevention).

loud galleon
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I NEED HELP WITH GARDENIING CAN SOMEONE CALLL IM BNORED OF BEING LONLY

maiden python
rose vigil
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Which crops gives you the most money? Thanks

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I wish they would sell us more soil 9 is not enough

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Like chili peppers take up a lot they should make soil plots only for that kind

acoustic laurel
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Apple > jam > worm&fert > šŸ’°

wise ruin
# rose vigil Which crops gives you the most money? Thanks

Tomatoes is the starting point if you have no apples. When you have it, turn apples into apple jam. Make sure to also have 30 Apple seeds at all time. Since Apple trees eventually disappear after enough harvests, itā€™s good to have 30 seeds to replant.

My income is:
Apple Jam, celebration cakes, and extra seeds (that I donā€™t need).

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Iā€™ve been hosting Cake Parties lately where we make cakes 50 times. That makes 150 cakes. 150 cakes is approximately above 30,000 gold.

uncut gull
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Is there an advanced crop formation that includes all crops including the new ones? I find guides for making money which is great but it's also good to have a stock of other crops for cooking

peak spear
rose vigil
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I just wish they made soil only for the chili peppers smh

uncut gull
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Or a pot, but then it wouldn't share effects

uncut gull
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The amount of Cabbage and body choy seems excessive imo, but I really appreciate this. I can play around with the your suggestion chapaalove

peak spear
uncut gull
left portal
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No apples on this plot, due to it being for a newer player

acoustic laurel
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That's a lot of peppers ashuralaugh this isn't what you're asking but there's ways to get apples before level 10 if you want that info

left portal
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I would be happy with a couple less Peppers for true auto - I feel like I saw one before?

vernal bluff
acoustic laurel
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@left portal
Ways to get Apples/blueberries or seeds

  1. gardening coins once you get level 10 and have enough coins
  2. Level 3 friendship reward ||with zeki and naio for apple seeds and badruu for blueberry seeds||
  3. Zeki gatcha machine or chappa pile
  4. You can request if you ever had an apple or blueberry
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digital tapir
wary finch
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tl;dr harvesting more and more frequently results in faster skill gain

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then their is the increase in gardening medals, for using fertilizers and harvesting quality crops. If you care about that, you will have more gardening metals a lot early than without caring.

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Basically, if you go for lazy layouts early on, your skill gain will be slow. afk gardens are for people like Sen Aka, he can go for that because otherwise he'd be drowning in apples, but this is not for the young gardener, just starting out.

rose vigil
wary finch
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talk daily (in game days) to villagers and do their quests and gift them stuff they need once per rl day.

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this includes their star gem, you can gift them that as well.

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Ah, and regarding skill gain in a whole, don't forget to upgrade your skill gain bonus at the phoenix shrine, caring for that early on makes skill gain so much easier.

ember quartz
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Okay thanks for the details ā˜ŗļø

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That is really helpful

vestal lodge
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Except with water and harvest

acoustic laurel
wary finch
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a lot of villagers like jam, I try always to gift them spare jams I have. If they take it or not is a bit random, but they do it often enough, it's worth a try.

dusty kayak
wary finch
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I found a display bug with wagon wheels. If a villager wants that, it can be that the wheel isn't marked as valid gift, if you have crafted it yourself, but it counts as gift.

vestal lodge
vestal lodge
wary finch
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you learn more from own mistakes than not making them and being satisfied with less than you could achieve. Embrace that, you will get better by learning from your mistakes.

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hunting is a prime example for that. Over time you will find patterns in how game behaves and learn what you did wrong or didn't recognize before. Making these mistakes makes you a better hunter later on.

wary finch
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like I always try to better my layouts for my weirdly shaped garden. This one is currently the best, calculated over 360days with post-processing it passed the 2 million gold income line, 5.6k/day and this as pre-25+ skill with just normal seeds.

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this does not yet include the worm farm income from it.

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no one needs that amount of money,so I will likely just run it for a month or 2 and then do something else.

foggy grove
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Hello, anyone with 100 Weed Prevention and 100 Water Retention using almost all if not all seeds? Thanks!

wise ruin
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so far, i found that this build i made seems to make the most money. i wonder if anyone can beat these numbers (Last Harvest: Day 30 - 134,864 | Raw Average: 4,495/day)

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i'm very interested if it's possible to beat those numbers haha

wise ruin
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i might break this down and go back to my money making garden with the 6 apple trees.

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wise ruin
foggy grove
wise ruin
wise ruin
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it definitely was a challenge, but a fun one.

foggy grove
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You are awesome bro. I'll compare it to the one above. I'm restocking supplies.

wise ruin
nocturne island
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You can gift furniture but that's not what they asked for. The item icon on the relationship panel should look like the fished up wagon wheel icon

wary finch
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@wise ruincan you post your top garden layout as a planner link that I can calculate it please.

wary finch
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ok I will check,if he still wants a wagon wheel or if it counted.

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seen from the associated dialogue, he has taken it for the associated purpose.

nova yoke
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I thought jarred corn offered more profit,

Same for potato seeds over tomato but I was never sure of that.

slow flame
wary finch
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and with profit per time unit you have to think differently.

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like it matters then, how long your crop has to wait in average in a jar for being processed.

slow flame
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You can make big profits with quick growing crops but that only works if you're taking care of your garden almost every palian day

wary finch
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not almost. every day.

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it's actually nearly every other day, if you care for your garden at about 2am and after 6am, then you can be away for like 40 hours without to lose anything.

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and you cash in twice as well, when you return and at the 6am tick.

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like you leave at 10am on day 1 and return at 2am on day 3, do your farm work twice and leave at 10am again -leaves you 40 hrs to do something else meanwhile.

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that's 100 rl minutes, enough time despite caring properly for your garden.

nova yoke
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Uh.
Yeah I'm just sticking to my less precise crops that take multiple days. I'd never remember that

wary finch
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I figured that out as a work around for that weird bug, where some crop spots might lose their fertilization, when I leave my housing plot. (this is under investigation by the team currently) this way I fertilize without leaving before the 6am tick happens and fertilize at 2am.

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but that bug has as well another component, which I just found out today, some spots might never use their fertilization, despite not being water retained.

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100 rl minutes are more than enough for me, I use row 1 in inventory for materials like bug catching stuff, arrows, repair kits, worms and foodstuff and row 2 for farming purposes, So I have just 3 rows left for being out and about, those are filling up during that time.

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with this schedule and rice planted with speed boost, there is always rice to harvest when I return, steady rice income.

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
wary finch
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yeah all 3 days crops, speed boost is 1 extra day done every 2 days normal growth.

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bok choy is quite good if you have recipes which take any kimchi, so far I haven't seen a recipe which requires a specific kimchi.

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if used in a worm farm, nappa cabbage kimchi performs better, it's like pickled corn in this case.

vernal bluff
wary finch
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Basically, with speed boost, 3-days crops grows in 2 days, 4-days crop in 3 days, 6-days crop in 4 days and apple trees in 8 days.

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so it's basically a 50% time bonus with the exception of 4 days crop, where it is just 33.3%

slow flame
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the growth boost messes up with the harvest boost once in a while, though it's not too bad

wary finch
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oh boy, my youngest is producing her apple trees currently, skill level 18 - first apple tree gave 19 starred and 5 normal apples. This will take an eternity getting to 4 trees.

vernal bluff
wary finch
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I do that, but quality fertilizer is not a 100% chance, it is more like 60% added - with level 18 I get 36%+60% (a guess) = 96% chance, it could be just 50% added as well.

vernal bluff
wary finch
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I always do that.

dusty kayak
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just put corn, wheat, rice, next to the trees and leave it there untouched lol thats what im doing on newbie alt and i got a ton of apples for more seeds fast

wary finch
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it is just unlucky. getting 19/5 - with 20/4 it would be much faster.

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it is all setup and ready to go, just with 3 empty spots for the still missing trees.

wary finch
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fast is relative, I don't have the time to spend 10hrs today to get this done, so it will be done by tomorrow.

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On the bright sight, my jars will be ready at that time to take the apple flood, when it will be done.

lofty sandal
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@dusty kayak what is your current worm farm setup?

dusty kayak
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12 preserve jars, 7 to 8 worm farms, and this layout (graphic by Milk)
Only watering/harvesting/replacing apple trees and leaving the harvest boosting crops alone
(9 weeds on one plot can cause a bug, so you can leave 1 or 2 on a harvest boosting crop to prevent the bug and the crop still boosts the trees)

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lofty sandal
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Awesome thanks!

uncut gull
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Does this count as a bingo? chapaahappy

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uncut gull
tulip vector
wary finch
# tulip vector very possible that the dollar bills are much softer than the metal bars <:chapaa...

lol reminds me of the wish spell in table top dungeons & dragons. The game master has to fulfill this wish, because it is very costly to cast - like "I want a ton of gold" "coming right up" and you let it fall from heaven on him, he is dead and needs resurrection. Be careful, what you wish for - it is rather difficult to wish something so, that a game master couldn't mess with an inappropriate wish šŸ™‚

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but even then, a ton of gold in one bar, he cannot carry it to anywhere after resurrection.

tulip vector
wary finch
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so Sen Aka was right, it didn't take too long to get all 4 apple trees going. Basically when the time comes to replant the first one, all will be star quality with jam production in full swing.

hoary badge
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does anyoe have an all inclusive better then this?

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glass fog
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Whatā€™s the most beneficial/money makin layout? šŸ˜³ I have no specific order at the moment

wary finch
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starting out you need a different layout to "most money making", because skill progress is more important than money making until you have skill level 10. Start out with crop, which grows quickly and you can harvest more frequently. Skill is only gained by harvesting crops. So if you go for "most beneficial" at your stage, this is not an afk layout, you have to care for your garden starting out.

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If you go for a lazy layout, your skill progress will be slow and it will take much longer to get to the big money making layouts.

nova yoke
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The app wouldn't cooperate for some reason, so had to describe it.

wary finch
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setup your garden and then go mining, those gems you will gather by doing this will at start be more money than your garden can provide - and this skill is vital for upgrading your tools anyway.

nova yoke
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I'd say fishing is better than early mining for gold,

wary finch
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but you need a decent axe and pick to quickly progress, fishing doesn't provide this.

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all my 3 characters suck at fishing, I never really needed that.

nova yoke
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You don't need fishing, but the gold that each fish sells for is between 45 - 125 easily, depending on where you fish, can be seen as quite worth it in my eyes. Plus you can do it at your plot so you can reach your farm quicker if you use rice.

wary finch
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but that is just money, nothing else really. mining and foraging gets you materials, which you need,not just money and skill gain.

nova yoke
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That is true but fishing would get you that copper chest, bigger inventory, and could be done easily without risk of going on an adventure for nothing where as for mining, you'd have to hope someone didn't already devoid the server of all the iron nodes (or wait around for copper nodes to respawn), as half the servers I visit now are all strip mined to oblivion so I can't imagine the suffering of new players in that scenario and while you're relogging I've probably gotten around 4k from fish alone.

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Mining is much better overall but for gold gained there isn't much to say (unless you're very vigilant with your farms)

wary finch
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I did it with mining and foraging at start. Don't forget that newbies can just grill mushrooms at start, nothing else. So getting around gets them these mushrooms, whereas fishing doesn't.

static quiver
nova yoke
wary finch
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oh my. I dislike fishing, I do it until I have glow worm farms and then never again.

glass fog
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Iā€™m near level 14 for farming. Is that still the best farming technique? Thereā€™s only a certain number of plot I can get

nova yoke
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Late-mid gaming is probably farming and mining though. Since you'll be needing a lot of resources, during the time

glass fog
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Also I hate bug catching the most

nova yoke
wary finch
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ah level 14 is a different thing, then you can go for lazy layouts as well.

nova yoke
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Actually no, switch out the cabbage for potatoes probably. I just like cabbages

glass fog
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This is going to sound so dumb but I thought apple trees take 9 spaces?

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Or is that what that means

wary finch
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they do but in the layout planner they are marked spot by spot

nova yoke
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They do, see the layout (apologies if that sounded blunt,)
However preservative jars make apples sell for 144,

wary finch
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a jar of condoms lol

glass fog
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No it doesnā€™t sound blunt, sometimes it just takes me a minute to understand but I get it now. Thank you so much:)

nova yoke
wary finch
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preserve jar vs. preservative

nova yoke
wary finch
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yeah, maybe, I eat jams and pickled stuff mostly

nova yoke
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I do apple pie parties,
I didn't even consider just eating the jams, I just sell all but the kimchi ones now for just profit

wary finch
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they perform well in worm farms as well, I'm not selling jams.

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I guess my reason to use pickled foodstuff and jams for focus is simply that I have to work to make recipe foodstuff, whereas pickles and jams get done while I sleep or work irl. And when I'm back in Palia, there is a lot of money to cash in waiting plus enough food for a long playing session.

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and this whilst having 2 kitchens in my palia house, lol, not using them often.

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I plan to cook at some point in time though, more for decorative purposes than nutrition though.

sharp blaze
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Being ultra lazy I made this layout for minimum maintenance -

left portal
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What is the total sum of all garden plots cost?

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soil costs 9000 total right

wary finch
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hm, iirc 500+750+1000+1250+1500+2000 = 7000, but not sure about it

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ah there is the last one with 3000, 10k then

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about that bug with 9 weeds on 1 soil - I think this is just a problem, if you have water retain somewhere. I paid attention to how many weeds I get in total, if I don't return to Palia for a couple of hours. I never had more than 8 weeds in the garden, if none of my crops has water retention.

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In my mind this can just happen, if you don't pull weeds every day and water retained spots keep growing.

ember quartz
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can someone do me a soil planner with an example please.
i need help on Gardening and it won't seem to work for me >.<''
i have only in storage is the basics. not the higher ones for rank 10
tomatoes, pototoes, wheat, carrots, etc.. just the basics please šŸ„ŗ

dusty kayak
ember quartz
velvet nacelle
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So with the added veggies, is there a new most profit layout (most likely using preserve jars) ???

nova yoke
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Cabbage is average, 90 for jarred and 90 for seeded,

I've HEARD someone say bok choy is pretty good but I don't know exact numbers.

velvet nacelle
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so back to my tomato farm

tacit stratus
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Farming question: Is it better to plant all Tomatos or a mix of tomatos and something that boosts quantity? Goal to get the most tomatos in the sortest time.

dusty kayak
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something like this give or take

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just increasing the chance for a bigger harvest and for star quality which is worth more

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but yknow thats just one way to go about it, specifically for newbie and easy pattern to remember, while maximizing profit sips

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plenty of other things one could do

simple panther
digital tapir
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It would have been two more times but I got impatient and wanted to change the layout

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The issue with the layout I had was that it doesnt use blueberries for growth boost, so they grow really slow

simple panther
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ugh, yeah, my apple trees take forever, even boosted, so I feel yar pain

digital tapir
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I used one of the plot designs that someone else posted on this server, but I like my blueberry speed boost

simple panther
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how many apple trees did you want? I was able to get two with harvest, quality, water, and growth boosts on them, and 5 blueberry bushes in there as well

digital tapir
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Mine has four trees with four blueberry bushes. I focused the harvest boost on the trees and not the blueberries, but I also took the idea from the server. The difference is the harvest boost on the trees

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This is my layout at the moment

simple panther
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that's a lot of apples and blueberries šŸ˜„

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I should use that tool and see what it says about my plot. I just planned it out in Excel.

digital tapir
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I cant remember exactly what the persons plot I took the idea from looked like, but I think it was something like this

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Minus the cotton. I just use it as a placeholder

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Also one of the corn in the middle is supposed to be wheat

simple panther
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I use cotton all over for star quality, let me plop mine into that app and will post it shortly

digital tapir
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Also just made this because I think it looks cool and is unnecessary

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simple panther
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mine... a little biot of everything, even the new bok choy and cabbage

simple panther
digital tapir
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I like yours. It has a very nice mix of all the buffs

simple panther
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it does, was going for quality, harvest, and growth boosts, at the cost of deweeding. Water is ok-ish, but that's quikc to do anyhow

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and ty šŸ™‚

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and the stuff that isn't harvest boosted, I drop in some fert on those every few days

digital tapir
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This is the one I was using before

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I also forgot to add rice, so just imagine some of the wheat was rice

simple panther
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šŸ™‚

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at full bloom šŸ™‚

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digital tapir
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I really like that. I havent needed crops for cooking because I buy my food from Reth's register, so I only pick the apples and blueberries

simple panther
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ahh gotcha, yeah, I cook a lot, so wanted a garden that I could grow most of it

prime mirage
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100%water 100% weed prevention lazy layout

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vernal mirage
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Garden Layout I just did. Uses all crops.

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copper valley
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Saw some lazy layouts and large money layouts and I was wondering if anyone had layouts of either that also has crop variety/optimization (as it doesn't need to be truly varied if any crop would do for a recipe) for cooking (outside of cakes cause my focus bar isn't maxed out)? Shepp's Pie has been my go-to so I rotate out crops.

dusty kayak
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i had a one of every crop layout but i havent updated it with the new crops, though you can replace the crops that have the same effect pretty easily

copper valley
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Ooo thank you! For the before level 25, what's the cotton for? Does crop quality affect exp? Or could I just use the level 25+ layout if I have the seeds for it?

dusty kayak
copper valley
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ahhh okay

dusty kayak
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And quality crops are of course better money :p

wary finch
# left portal soil costs 9000 total right

garden plots start at a price of 250, then 500, 750, 1000, 1500, 2000 and 3000, just verified it by going through the process a 4th time with a new character (I know, totally insane), but you were correct, total sum is 9000.

slow flame
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Got bored of checking/adding fert, so I made 100% harvest/water retain, all crops layout. I'll just have to weed now.

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dusty kayak
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if you ignore replacing 9 harvest boosting crops, you can leave 9 weeds on those sips they still harvest boost

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true weed block

slow flame
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Yes, I've heard of the trick, but there's no way I sacrifice 9 of my crops. When I get bored of the all crops layout and go for an apple money making hands off garden that will make sense

dusty kayak
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i got lazy real fast

sick glacier
dusty kayak
nova yoke
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What would you say is the best item to put in for speedygro? As someone recommended just piling on speedygro on rice for profit every other day and I'm tempted to test out how effective it is.

clear kindle
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still looks like apple pie or jams for speedygro in the glow worm bin unless you do a massive amount of cake parties

ember quartz
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how many Apple's do it needs to make Apple Seeds?

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clear kindle
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10 apples to 1 seed

nova yoke
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(approximately 101k) per 30 days isn't terrible I'd say.

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Unless I missed something,

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Oh i forgot it doesn't account for fertilizer boost. So that's about 34k for every in-game 10 days, definitely not bad.

neat whale
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id wish for more soils for bigger layouts and more crop space

nova yoke
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Also this doesn't seem bad for a starter, though I forgot if you start with 2 or 3.
7k for a potential 10 in-game days

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still blade
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What's the best/most profitable (In regards to how much fertilizer and worms it produces) thing to compost in the Glow Worm box?

clear kindle
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apple jam gives 16/16 worm/fert in regular and 3/16 in glow worm. if you are an avid cake party player (gets into cake parties often) then celebration cakes are technically the "best". but only worth it if going into the parties

nova yoke
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Hmm,
Full harvest boost+ retain
(However it requires two harvest boosts, since I couldn't find another way to make it work)
For 8 berries/peppers

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still blade
nova yoke
clear kindle
vernal bluff
copper valley
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I have to harvest apples and bushes first, don't I? I didn't notice apples were ready so I harvested the crops around it and when I noticed, the examination said there was no boosts active.

slow flame
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That shouldn't change anything. Once the apples are ready to harvest, what would a boost do ? Unless the harvesting was a trigger to take the boosts into account but that would be really...

bronze geyser
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Does anyone know if putting apple jam in worm farm give you more profit or not shy2

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I have seen a farm plot with bunch of worm farm and was wondering if it will be worth investing making a lot of then

odd pilot
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is there any chart on star quality chance related to farming level? i have heard that it apparently increases the chance but couldn't find anything concrete online. Also does the same concept apply to mining for gems?

bronze geyser
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I am level 25 in farming rn and I am definitely only getting star crops from star seed

odd pilot
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Nice

odd pilot
bronze geyser
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Ah no not the glow worm farm, just normal worm farm

odd pilot
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oh, let me check

bronze geyser
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I just did the calculation and find that you would get 160 gold from worm farm each apple jam

odd pilot
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i think so, think it gives 4 more worms and 4 more fertilizer

odd pilot
bronze geyser
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Yes star apple jam seems to give 16 worms and 16 harvest boost fert

odd pilot
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yeah

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but its just 16 gold profit for one hour of wait

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Personally dont think its that worth it

bronze geyser
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True,, but I think if I have like 10-20 worm farm and sleep on it

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Maybe it will be? šŸ˜­

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I only have 120 jams rn but if i fit 18 apples jams in each worm farm it will fill up perfectlyā€¦e_cri

odd pilot
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I guess, but you would also prob. need just as many preserve jars to keep the worm farms up, no?

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if you want to keep it going 24/7

bronze geyser
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Trueee šŸ˜­ I have bunch rn but I definitely need to get get more construction certificates thing

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Maybe I should stick too cakesā€¦ but they also take like 2hrs c_angy

odd pilot
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I mean if you have the slots, i guess its smart to use them all, i dont have that many to spare tho. Turning to jam gives 48g profit per cycle and worm just 16g, i feel like its not really that worth it, but maybe if you can scale it up enough

bronze geyser
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Yeahh or maybe

slow flame
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You can only buy 30 crafting licences so you won't ever be able to have 20 worm farms working at full time

bronze geyser
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Dang

slow flame
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at least not with jam

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you can put raw meat and stuff

bronze geyser
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Maybe with fish

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I have so many glow worms.,, maybe itā€™s time to use them

left portal
# vernal bluff Here is one I made for 9, which does not require any fertilizers https://palia-...

Using the following links as examples we can seek the optimal layout for this type of crop (Base Blueberry yield/Harvest Boosted yield):
0) Bad 286 Blueberry: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1_CROPS-BBTBBPBBT-BBPBBTBBP-BBTBBPBBT-BBPBBTBBP-BBTBBPBBT-BBPBBTBBP-BBTBBPBBT-BBPBBTBBP-BBTBBPNNN

  1. Unrealistic baseline due to water/weed 418/646 Blueberry: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11-11-11-11-11_CROPS-NNBNNBNNB-BNNBNNBNN-BBBBBBBBB-BBBBBBBBB-BBBBBBBBB-BBBBBBBBB-BBBBBNBBB-BBBNBBBBB-BBBBBBBBB-BBBBBBBBB
  2. Trash 9x9 Layout requiring all hydro fertilizer 408 Blueberry: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-NTPRB.HpB.HpWB.HpB.Hp-TPNB.HpB.HpRB.HpB.HpW-TPNB.HpB.HpRB.HpB.HpW-RB.HpB.HpWB.HpB.HpRB.HpB.Hp-B.HpB.HpRB.HpB.HpWB.HpB.HpR-B.HpB.HpRB.HpB.HpWB.HpB.HpR-WB.HpB.HpRB.HpB.HpWB.HpB.Hp-B.HpB.HpWB.HpB.HpRB.HpB.HpW-B.HpB.HpWB.HpB.HpRB.HpB.HpW
  3. 308/476 Blueberry: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11-11-11-11-11_CROPS-NNBNNBNNB-BTNBCbNBTN-BBBBBTTCbB-BBBCbBBBTCb-BBBBBTTCbB-BBBCbBBBTCb-BBBBBTTCbB-BBBCbBBBTCb-BBBBBBTCbB-BBBBBBBTCb
  4. 442 Blueberry (can add 10 Speedy Grow): https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11-11-11-11-11_CROPS-NNCrNNBNNB-WTNBCbNBTN-TCbTBBBBBB-CbTCbBBBBBB-CrWCrBBBBBB-WCrWBBBBBB-TCbTBBBBBB-CbTCbBBBBBB-CrWCrB.HpB.HpB.HpB.HpB.HpB.Hp-WCrWB.HpB.HpB.HpB.HpB.HpB.Hp
  5. 464/476 Blueberry (Can add 8 Speedy Grow): https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11-11-11-11-11_CROPS-NNB.HpNNB.HpNNB-B.HpCrNB.HpWNBRN-TPBBBBBBB-BTPBBBBBB-CrWCrBBBBBB-WCrWBBBBBB-TPTBBBBBB-PTPBBBBBB-CrWCrB.HpB.HpB.HpB.HpB.HpB.Hp-WCrWB.HpB.HpB.HpB.HpB.HpB.Hp

I choose #3 for simplicity, Fertilize everything. However, #5 is optimal, unless we find a better layout?

vernal bluff
left portal
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Let me know if you have a plot for me to peep

vernal bluff
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Here is my layout I use

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I also have a few lazy layouts, most money and every crop used at least ones

left portal
vernal bluff
left portal
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If you let weeds grow on any 9 unimportant crop you can basically forget that mechanic, by the way.

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So I typically aim for water retain, and then harvest boost. Thanks for the ideas.

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
true crescent
wary finch
vernal bluff
still blade
wary finch
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btw it is not a bad idea to use ferilizers as soon as you get the recipe for quality upgrade fertilzer - made from bugs, meat and sundrop lilies, which gives newbies a reason to hunt and catch bugs and pick some flowers. Doing this leads shortly to a few achievements for using fertilizers and harvesting quality crops, which helps getting an apple seed earlier than without those guild medals later on.

storm timber
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you can't remove crops once they are planted until you harvest them right?

clear kindle
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you can i know it's "x" while holding the hoe on switch, but you lose the seed. i seem to only get it to work when there is a step of growth on the plant

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you can move the plot around as long as you don't have overlapping crops (meaning you don't have a crop sharing another plot

storm timber
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i see thank you

acoustic jay
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Apple seeds can also be received thru certain friendship quests too if anyone wants them sooner than the medals

tacit stratus
slow flame
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Another all crops 100% harvest boost/water retain without ferts
2 apples, 2 blueberries, 2 peppers
But just 1 carrot, 1 onion, 1 bok choy (might be a bit short for cooking purposes)

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leaden ginkgo
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I have a question for you gardeners šŸ§‘šŸ½ā€šŸŒ¾
I try to grow normal quality crop but when I harvest it, it becomes star quality. I havenā€™t fertilized in like forever. What am I doing wrong šŸ˜…

dusty kayak
foggy wagon
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anyone else unable to plant spicy pepper seeds in their garden?

foggy wagon
acoustic laurel
foggy wagon
slow flame
wary finch
dusty kayak
slow flame
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Didn't it transform star quality into normal quality when giving before ?

dusty kayak
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Yeah and for me it still does that with fish? But cant send any crops at all starred rn it just doesn't let us

digital tapir
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Dont know if this was asked, but is it a feature to be able to pick a crop more than once at the same time?

wary finch
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but you still pick just once, getting both results if the boosted phase has a different outcome. If both are the same, you will just get the total result of 24 (starred) apples.

digital tapir
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For example I picked all four of my blueberries but it let me pick them again immediately after

wary finch
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A result of 19/5 happens like this: first phase 100% quality = 12 starred apples, boosted phase 60% starred quality (0.6x12 = 7.2) results in 7 starred apples and 5 nomal = total result 19/5

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oh

digital tapir
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I didnt know if it was a feature or a bug because it only happens sometimes

wary finch
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likely a lucky bug

digital tapir
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Happens sometime to my tomatoes too

wary finch
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are those effƩcted directly adjacent to apple trees?

digital tapir
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They are

wary finch
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and more than one tree

digital tapir
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Yes

wary finch
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then I guess this happens by applying the effect of speed boost twice generating 2 extra days, which cause another extra day and voila 2nd harvest - but this is certainly a bug in my mind.

digital tapir
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Interesting. Just know that I am totally not abusing this, just a happy accident

wary finch
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with your tomatoes pay attention if this just happens to those tomatoes, which are touching both, an apple tree and a blueberry. If my guess is correct, this should not happen to those tomatoes, which don't touch apple tree and blueberry at the same time.

digital tapir
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I will have to keep an eye out and let you know

white glade
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I got lucky. Picked up a blueberry seed at level 8 from the lucky coin machine!

nova yoke
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Yeah those are definitely going to be your best cash crop until apples,

Though honestly since apples take a 3 by 3 space, I wonder if just putting... Hypothetically 9 tomatoes would give you more profit in the end (if you keep it water boosted and harvest boosted)

wary finch
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you don't need any apples nor blueberries for good money, this here generates 5k/day based on the wonder vegetable bok choy, if it is seeded. Instead of 68, 4 seeds are worth 88 - so it generates nearly 100% more value instead of 50% like all the others. It's likely a bug or a kind of easter egg for us to figure out, who knows.

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well I assume all star quality with it.

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btw attempting to make it water retained, would cost more than 1000 gold per day, it isn't worth going for water retention.

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or simply put water retain fertilizer on it, if you really need that feature.

nova yoke
queen current
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How do I make HarvestBoost Fertilizer? Like what should I put in the worm farm?

nova yoke
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It's the default for the glow worm farm.

Starred potatoes seem to be the best at first glance

queen current
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thank you

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I was only making speedgrow fertilizer with sweet leafs

fierce sun
nova yoke
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Why waste your sweet leafs for that?
When apples are the best for speedy grow by far.

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Unless you don't have any available

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Pretty sure it was like 17 speedy grow per 1 starred apple

fierce sun
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Is it I only put sweet leaf and mushroom for worm

calm mist
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does anyone have a good layout for farm with only basic seed that bought from zeki?

nova yoke
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And starred potato makes 8 harvest boost

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
# wary finch https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-11111_CROPS-BkRBk...

If solely about money you could place bok choy everywhere and it will make 6k a day

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-11111_CROPS-BkRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.SRBk.S-Bk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.SRBk.S-Bk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.SRBk.S-Bk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.SRBk.S-NNNNNNBk.SRBk.S-Bk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.SRBk.S-Bk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.SRBk.S-Bk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.SRBk.S-Bk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.SRBk.S-Bk.SCrBk.SBk.SRBk.SNNN

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Itā€™s actually insane how harvest and grow boosted bok choy perfumes as well as harvest and grow boosted apple lol

slow flame
dusty kayak
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šŸ‘ƒ

vernal bluff
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But well, fresh veggies smell nice

left portal
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Adding in 4 harvest grow fertilizer to the right bushes, there are also 10 blueberry bushes that can receive speedy grow, but that seems overkill and offsets the collection rate. Other thoughts?

vernal bluff
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If u donā€™t need them to be water retained more bushes could be placed

jolly delta
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if i plant star tomato seeds will i only get star tomatoes or is it just higher chance of getting star tomatoes

clear kindle
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depends on your level. the closer you are to level 25, the higher the chance you will get mostly star crops from star seeds. once you are at level 25-49, you will only get star crops from star seeds. at level 50 and above, you can get star crops from regular seeds that you get from zeki

slow flame
jolly delta
slow flame
# jolly delta so like it caps at 50%?

No it's as @clear kindle said. If your level is 25, the chance is 50% + 50% if star seed. If your level is 50, the chance is 100% and it doesn't depend on the seed

jolly delta
slow flame
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yes it's the gardening level we're talking about

jolly delta
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im level 3 lol so ig thats 50%

slow flame
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With your star tomato seeds that would just give you a 56% chance of getting star tomatoes yes. But the level will go up real fast anyway

acoustic laurel
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To simplify it a bit
Chance of star seeds = 2% per each gardening level (+50% if you used star seeds)

digital tapir
brave crane
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more than 14h lost

terse crag
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why does speedygro fertilizer hate Maji's love?

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I have Apple trees at 36, 45, 54 and 63 speedygro. They were all planted and fertilized equally. 9 weeds exist on non-apple crops which do not get harvested.

The least grown trees were also trying to run away from their soil plot designation, as all of them overlap soil borders

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Is there a bug with speedygro, a bug with growth on misaligned crops, or maybe new issue requiring a wacky confluence of weeds, fertilizer and alignment error?

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I stare at these jerks as it changes to 6:00 am and they do nothing, it's so frustrating!

velvet nacelle
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If you are trying to maximize profits by using Preserve Jars on items like tomatoes (great time/cost ratio), what would be a great layout?

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My current layout gives me in Raw Average (Palia Garden Planner) 4,263 /day

vernal bluff
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Can u also show ur current layout?

velvet nacelle
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Sure, sec, my garden is level 120, I have star seeds for every fruit and veggie, let me link the layouot.

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weird, it didnt save it

vernal bluff
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Level 120 whaaaaaaatchapaafire chapaafire chapaafire

velvet nacelle
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For some reason it isn't saving the setting of everything to jars or seeds

vernal bluff
velvet nacelle
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Crap is expensive in this game, and before I decided to save 1,000 apple seed packets, this was my favorite layout

vernal bluff
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Are u ok with also seeding stuff??

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Or only jarring

velvet nacelle
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I jar the tomatoes and corn and I seed the rice (or use them for cooking when needed).

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And when my supply of seed is low, I turned them to seeds as needed

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The planner takes all of that into account

vernal bluff
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Can recommend u two layouts for 6k a day

Here u jar apples and corn and seed everythings else

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-A.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.S-RBkA.SCrBkA.SRBkA.S-A.SA.SRA.SA.SCrA.SA.SR-A.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.S-RBkA.SCrBkA.SRBkA.S-A.SA.SRA.SA.SCrA.SA.SR-A.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.SA.S-RBkA.SCrBkA.SRBkA.S-A.SA.SRA.SA.SCrA.SA.SR

And here seed everything except jar corn:

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CrBk.SBk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.S-CrBk.SBk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.S-CrBk.SBk.SRBk.SCrCrBk.SBk.S-CrBk.SBk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.S-CrBk.SBk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.S-CrBk.SBk.SRBk.SCrCrBk.SBk.S-CrBk.SBk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.S-CrBk.SBk.SRBk.SBk.SCrBk.SBk.S-CrBk.SBk.SRBk.SCrCrBk.SBk.S

velvet nacelle
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Let me change the settings. I love the planner but they really need to let you save your settings.

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Do you include replant and replant cost? Because I am only getting 4,202/day

vernal bluff
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I do o thinkšŸ‘€

velvet nacelle
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I found the difference, it is closer to 7k per day but you need to use fertilizer

vernal bluff
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U included the grow boost?

velvet nacelle
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I did now

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oh.. with replant cost we are back to 6k

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growth boost barely affect my layout, lol

vernal bluff
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Yeah, as I said 6k, didnā€™t figure out how to go above 6k ahaha

vernal bluff
velvet nacelle
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Thanks @vernal bluff, since I hate to fertilize, since I usually forget or use the wrong one (only do it for the weekly Accomplishments), I think I will stick with mine. It yields about the same /day amount.

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Plus I already have enough RNG with the damned Star palium gems.. They really need to fix that.

digital tapir
velvet nacelle
inland echo
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Can I get some help please? I am gardening level 12. I do not have apples or bushes yet. What should I be doing to both earn money and also have food for crafting? Currently I just have 9 full plots of tomatoes, and have been selling the seeds for whatever I dont use on Veggie soup, but I have way outleveled veggie soup.

digital tapir
vernal bluff
wary finch
# nova yoke Why that layout instead of a traditional 3 by 3?

by esthetical reasons, I found a clearing in the forest to the east, which fits this kind of garden well in between large trees (those you can plant yourself never grow that tall) and just costs me 4 writs early on to own it. Later the space for the rest of my house requires just 5 more writs to have a 15 room home with 3 fireplaces and an atrium yard without having destroyed much of the forest. There is even space for the extruded window overlooking my garden.

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And because I'm not the type to do things in a way everyone else does them šŸ™‚

wary finch
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So don't count on it to last.

wary finch
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@vernal bluff I just plant some bok choy in between spicy peppers and blueberries, to avoid getting into the trap of eventually exploiting a possible bug. I'm not certain that it is one, but given that all the rest crop is fairly balanced around 50% value increase with any additional enhancement step, I'd bet on it being a bug and pretty much every terms of service forbid exploiting possible bugs.

tender coral
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If I fertilize something. And after watering amd growing a bit the fert disappears. Do I need to re fertilize it , or is it in the crop already

sterile vessel
lusty timber
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Where i can get the Apple tree seeds?

tender coral
manic meteor
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vernal bluff
vernal bluff
bright scroll
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Agreed, we had the previous cooking bug pop up unexpectedly and we got about 29k for cooking up one ramen; thats pretty huge compared to 20g after putting in actual effort (we were new and blessed and this was before people knew how it worked)

wary finch
vernal bluff
wary finch
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much work, it is invoke bok choy seeds, and then to harvest and replant E, click,click - done, next one -where is this work?

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or even just one click, once the first replant is invoked.

vernal bluff
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Itā€™s nothing compared to the big cooking bug with 50k in 2 minutes

wary finch
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I do that every other day, because that is enough, at 2am and don't leave before 6am, work on it a 2nd time and then I'm out and about for like 40hrs, it is not much work at all.

vernal bluff
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And unlike the cooking bug, which u could just not use, are we supposed to not to plant a new veggie now

wary finch
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I do it in moderation, I have planted it in between blueberries and spicy peppers, but I definitely avoid a 6k/day focus on bok choy.

vernal bluff
wary finch
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I made that layout example more to show, that it might be worth thinking about other garden layouts than just apple gardens.

vernal bluff
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Apple gardens are nice, especially if u can log in to garden a few times a day and they give the most money (if we donā€™t count bok choy)

wary finch
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yeah, for seasoned players that is corect, but if we just show end game layouts, this isn't helpful for new gardeners, they need the feeling,that they can achieve good income as well with those crops, they have access to, and it is possible.

vernal bluff
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But yeah, depends on ur preferences also, it does not fit for everyone

wary finch
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not to talk about the insane skill gain with harvest and speed boosted bok choy, this is just crazy.

vernal bluff
wary finch
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what makes apples so valuable is the fact, that starred apple jam just gets over the threshold to get 3 glow worms in glow worm farms instead of 2, this is 50% more than the next best jam/food can achieve.

slow flame
vernal bluff
wary finch
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that is so true, @slow flame

vernal bluff
wary finch
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I take it slow now, took me a while to get, that there is nothing worth buying and that a lot of money is in the end not worth aspiring for now. So I test different gardens and enjoy myself basically. There is no rush, because Palia has no end game.

vernal bluff
slow flame
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I'm yet to switch to my latest garden design (all crops, 2 apple trees, 2 peppers, 2 bluebs, 100% harvest/water retain). Also considering sacrificing 9 crops for weed prevention for a more hands off way when I want to focus on something else. Still adjusting with what I seed, jar, sell directly with my current design

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Can't do it all even with 13 jars and 11 worm farms. It's more stress than it's worth to strive for a few thousand golds more a day

vernal bluff
slow flame
wary finch
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lol, yes, this is the thing to learn, more possessions mean more work in the end, because in game you cannot hire staff and managers to run it for you, so you will be the one working.

vernal bluff
# slow flame

Niiice, I like 100% water and harvest, when I get lazy again, gonna do one too ahhaha

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
wary finch
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yeah, in the end it is switching gardens, when you are flooded with too much crop of the same type - this is not a bad thing, running the same garden for longer is just work and no fun.

vernal bluff
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I even separated it from the main part lol

wary finch
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figuring out how to transition from one garden to the next while it is still live and active is a puzzle I like to solve, my kind of brain game.

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btw did you see that something has changed in the north of our housing plot, there is an old mine which leads to nowhere still, but when you look at bahari bay, they moved the outskirts fast travel to an old mine in the west, which leads to nowhere as well. I guess at some point in time, our housing plot might be connected to bahari bay via this old mine in the north of our housing plot.

vernal bluff
vernal bluff
# inland echo Can I get some help please? I am gardening level 12. I do not have apples or bus...

Here is one I made: Itā€™s 100% harvest, and almost all star boosted, It has every veggie at least twice

Around 3.5k
(If u seed bok choy and rice, jar corn, tomatoes and potato. If u have more seed makers and jars, u can do more)

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoTPCrRCoCoPCb-CrCoRRPCrPTCo-CoWCrCbPCoPCrR-CrWCrOCoOBkCrBk-CoCrRBkCCoCrCoBk-CrCoBkBkCrBkBkRCo-CoRCoWCbCrCrCoR-RWCrPBkCoCoRCr-CoCrCRCrCoCoCrR

wary finch
tacit stratus
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This is my current "everything" layout. My goal is low mantenance, so 100% water and weed is core. Unfortunately, it's not truely "everything". I would like to fit corn in there at least. Any ideas how to add corn while keeping a balance of crops?

It's 6x9 becaue I haven't bothered to get the last 3 dirt plots yet.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-WTOCPWOCbSp-CTRRPCSpCbO-NNNNNNNNN-BkTSpWPOCCbSp-SpTBkBkPRSpCbC-NNNNNNNNN-OTSpBkPWWCbC-SpTORPBkBkCbR-NNNNNNNNN

I don't include cotton because it's needed selectively. So when I run low I just do a "cotton planting".

slow flame
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You can easily do a 3 corns, 3 wheat, 4 rice without changing the rest but I suppose that's not what you want

jolly delta
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im able to buy carrot, onion, potato, cotton, tomato, wheat, rice and corn seeds at my current level n i got 7 soil plots can someone tell me what the best things to plant are n how to like what layout ( i want max profits n maybe not having to be online or active so much) i have just under 4kgold rn

slow flame
boreal fjord
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Does anyone have a guide for which items are better to preserve vs sell raw?

gray zenith
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Is there a point to applying fertilizers every day before harvest, or is just the day before better?

dusty kayak
round finch
round finch
dusty kayak
dusty kayak
slow flame
round finch
round finch
round finch
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I have a freeform board I use for info like a whiteboard for the game

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A few things I have put unreliable on lol

spring heron
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Question, do I need to add multiple fertilizer instead of doing it once? Bc I threw it down on the new crops but it isnā€™t there anymore?

vernal bluff
spring heron
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Ah okay ty!

true saffron
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do tomato plants ever need to be replanted?

clear kindle
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after the fourth harvest they will disappear and need to be replanted

true saffron
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ty

wary finch
# spring heron Question, do I need to add multiple fertilizer instead of doing it once? Bc I th...

there is currently a bug, where whole stacks of fertilizer can disappear on some spots when you leave or return to your housing plot. This is currently under investigation by the dev team, but as it is very hard to reproduce, it can take a while until it's fixed. So if you encounter that issue, then fertilize that spot before 6am and don't leave your housing plot before 6am - this is kind of a work around for this issue. You can logout on your housing plot without to cause this bug though.

spring heron
rustic compass
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how does the fertilizers work? do I have to keep using them to keep the buff? or is just one enough?

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cause it seems to disappear after a day

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oh nvm its been asked loll

wild hazel
left portal
slow flame
left portal
slow flame
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glad it helped

wary finch
wary finch
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hm, bok choy might be intentionally this way and it's values not a mistake. It really depends on how you look at the resulting profits and what can be done with the end product. Given that the resulting kimchi is equally weird dependent on what you want to do with that kimchi. But overall I'm thinking now, that bok choy is intentionally this way and not by mistake.

slow flame
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We'll see after the next patch. Some recipes are still weird saying they need bok choy and nappa cabbage but not using them once you cook, oil and soy sauce sometimes counted together and so on. I'm sure there will be some changes there. They might as well adjust the prices.

wary finch
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yeah, I wondered for example, why the heck I should cook this kimchi recipe, if the resulting focus isn't worth it.

wary finch
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There is not a big advantage using a 3x3 layout compared to mine, it is just marginal and sometimes my irregular garden layout has the advantage, that I can just slightly shift the 9th plot. Overall the 3x3 layout has 40 missing neighbors, my layout has 42, so it has a slight disadvantage in regards to boosting crops, but it's just marginal.

slow flame
round finch
wary finch
# slow flame It would be true if you only consider 1x1 crops. When you try to put as many bus...

I have 14 2x2 on no apple tree layouts, and with apples I can easily fit 4 apple trees plus 6 berry bushes like this https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-11111_CROPS-Cr.QW.QCr.QA.QA.QA.QA.QA.QA.Q-A.QA.QA.QA.QA.QA.QA.QA.QA.Q-R.QBk.QO.QB.QB.QCb.QB.QB.QP.Q-Cr.QB.QB.QW.QB.QB.QCr.QA.QA.Q-NNNNNNA.QCr.QR.Q-A.QA.QA.QB.QB.QR.QB.QB.QW.Q-B.QB.QR.QB.QB.QB.QP.QT.QB.Q-W.QA.QA.QB.QA.QA.QB.QA.QA.Q-A.QA.QA.QA.QA.QA.QA.QW.QP.Q-A.QB.QB.QA.QB.QB.QNNN

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there is no problem to get it done, it does not have to be a 3x3 layout.

slow flame
wary finch
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why would I even want water retain, when I have to harvest every other day anyway, it makes no sense at all with my layouts.

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and weed prevention,yeah, I get it when I focus on bok choy, but I'm not planting those for weed prevention but for profits.

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I am only interested in growth and harvest boost supported by quality fertilizer, if required, all else is of no interest to me.

slow flame
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The most boring thing for me is checking where I need to put fertilizer. So I'm doing no ferts layouts now

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and I don't need quality boost

wary finch
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but when you have done it a couple of times, you know by heart, where you have to fertilize. It is a matter of practice.

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I have to fertilize, because I run 4 characters and 2 of them are below level 25 still.

slow flame
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if you manage to keep it synched, which I don't

tropic ermine
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I made a new layout inspired by Rhihlia's earlier this month (#šŸŒ±ā”‚gardening message).
Main goals:

  • Grow more cabbage (I currently only have 10 regular seeds)
  • Save up money by selling seeds and jars depending on crops
  • Eventually incorporate bok choy

Feel free to give any suggestions! I'm new to making layouts myself and wanted something symmetrical. kermie_shy

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slow flame
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unless you just do huge stacks ?

wary finch
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I don't have to synch anything, rice and bok choy grow in 2 days with speed boost, so I have to harvest them any other day anyway and I don't need to be there more often than this as well, if I return every other day at 2am do the farm work, wait for 6am, do the farm work again and then I can be out and about for about 40hrs before I have to return and the whole thing repeats. I don't need water retain.

nimble rapids
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I'd rather water retain than cope with the Switch lag as much as possible. šŸ¤·

sharp ginkgo
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What are you putting on your worm bins? Im struggling now that I heard I shouldn't be putting cakes in there anymore. I have 4 apple trees and 4 blueberry bushes and I used harvest boost for them

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Also I guess I should be making apple seeds instead of jams?

acoustic jay
vernal bluff
sharp ginkgo
vernal bluff
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But yeah, I also put apple jams

sharp ginkgo
vernal bluff
sharp ginkgo
minor thunder
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Does anyone have any more information on Bok Choy and Napa Cabbage in regards to farming?
the wiki is pretty bare.
Do we know how long it takes to grow, what benifits it has on other produce etc?

slow flame
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Nappa Cabbage: 6 days, water retain

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It's written on the seeds description

vernal bluff
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Which is 18g difference

forest osprey
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Glow worms or reg worms?

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So I have been selling my cakes and should have been putting them in worm makers??

sharp ginkgo
vernal bluff
vernal bluff
vernal bluff
sharp ginkgo
terse crag
true saffron
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can i destroy plants that have been planted? it's ok if I lose the product

terse crag
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https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-R.HpBk.SBk.SBk.ST.HpBk.SBk.SBk.SR.Hp-T.HpBk.SBk.HpBk.SR.HpBk.SBk.SBk.ST.Hp-R.HpBk.SBk.HpBk.ST.HpBk.SBk.SBk.SR.Hp-T.HpBk.SBk.SBk.SR.HpBk.SBk.SBk.ST.Hp-T.HpBk.SBk.SBk.SR.HpBk.SBk.SBk.ST.Hp-R.HpBk.SBk.HpBk.ST.HpBk.SBk.SBk.SR.Hp-T.HpBk.SBk.SBk.SR.HpBk.SBk.HpBk.ST.Hp-R.HpBk.SBk.SBk.ST.HpBk.SBk.SBk.SR.Hp-R.HpBk.SBk.HpBk.ST.HpBk.SBk.HpBk.SR.Hp

^I played around with trying to create a somewhat lazy bok choy harvest+growth boost farm with water retention, can we fit more bok choy with a more efficient design? will it be horrible to harvest + fertilize?

terse crag
true saffron
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tysm!

inland echo
vernal bluff
inland echo
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starred cotton is better to sell as-is, but regular is better to turn into fabric? Thank you for getting back to me

wary finch
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I'd recommend not to overdue it with bok choy. If it performs too well it is likely to get nerfed, and we don't want this to happen, do we?

terse crag
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Thanks for your insights! I think I'm leaning toward going back to apples only due to ease of use. It seems I'm just less interested in min/maxing gold gain for maji plushies than I thought I'd be šŸ˜…

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That said, to your last point I believe in a quote that follows roughly:
"The player does what is efficient, not what is expeceted. Fun is the anticipated byproduct of that exchange."

terse crag
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So I see it as the player's job to discover the meta and all the exploits along the way, and the dev's job to continue curating an experience for the player to then continue to deconstruct and digest.

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sorry for the disjointed rambling, was in and out of queues and didn't get it all out in one take!

wary finch
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no, that isn't just not your job, any terms of service of pretty much every MMO forbids the use of exploits and using them can get you suspended or even perma banned.

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This said, I do no longer think that bok choy is by accident this way, but it's values perform a bit too well for good in a bok choy focused garden. I think it is great for newbies to gain skill quickly, but if others overuse bok choy, it will certainly get nerfed and we all lose.

terse crag
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As a long time member of the school of Exploit Early Exploit Often, I respectfully agree to disagree. Many things can miss dev oversight and the players doing stuff with them is just another means of data collection. I think forbidding exploits in TOS makes sense as a boilerplate legal disclaimer, but in practice I wouldn't want to continue playing a game that bans players for performing free QA rather than correcting potentially illicit gains and rehabilitating said player

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of course it's not my job to test this game, but if information is uncovered that is mutually beneficial to myself and s6, I am in the business of accepting aforementioned illicit gains as recompense for my pro bono performance

jolly delta
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so i was trying to figure out the gardening things does any one know y only these 2 onion n carrot doesnt get the effect or is the game bugging cuz all the rest do

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dusty kayak
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maybe visual bug

jolly delta
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I see well I can't see cuz it doesn't show but like yeah u get what I mean

slow flame
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just water them and you will see the information change, it's really a visual bug

robust kernel
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What's the best fertiliser to use?

clear kindle
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depends on what you want/need. fertilizer should be augmenting the buff that you are missing. if you want a lazy garden plan, and are planting the water retain and weed prevention crops, then harvest boost or speedygro would be the fertilizer to use for example

true saffron
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I was wondering if you can only unlock one soil per level. I have 6 soil and it says my purchase limit has been hit. Iā€™m level 6 gardening

acoustic laurel
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If you only have 6, did you put some in storage or another plot?

true saffron
winter herald
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Did something changed with tomatoes or potatoes? I've been using this setup for months now and this is the first time thins happen and I have to water my tomatoes after picking them up.

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slow flame
winter herald
slow flame
winter herald
slow flame
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I've just had an unstarred jar of pickled corn from a star corn. I didn't know it was possible. I sometimes get unstarred seeds but I had not seen it in jars.

slender musk
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I had seeds, but I didn't know about pots

true saffron
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does star seeds give a higher chance of star produce?

sharp blaze
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Very much yes

clear kindle
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yep, but once you reach level 25 you will always get star crops from star seeds, then at level 50 you will always get star crops from regular seeds

true saffron
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ok ty!

wild hazel
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The fastest way to lvl is to plant the crop with the shortest harvest time?

slow flame
wild hazel
slow flame
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What's important is to design your garden to fit your playstyle. If you're not going to water, weed and harvest it every palian day (every hour in real life), design a garden with water retain and weed prevention boosts (can be done through fertilizer too). Harvest boost is a must too.

tacit stratus
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10 APPLES FOR ONE SEED?!?!?!!!! I just got my first apple seed and planted a tree. Then I looked in the seed maker and its 10:1. That tree better produce a hell of a lot of apples.

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Thanks for listening.

dusty kayak
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make sure to harvest boost it

tacit stratus
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I did.

acoustic jay
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It also produces more than 1 harvest so that helps the ratio

clear kindle
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harvest boosted apple tree should give 24 apples per harvest

lilac wind
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I'd quality boost your first tree then make at least one starred seed and then harvest boost from thereon out

harsh nexus
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Hi, I want to ask which day I have to fertilize? Just last day before harvesting, or I have to fertilize throughout the growth. big thanks chapaalove

tacit stratus
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My first apple tree.

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clear kindle
wild hazel
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anyone have a good 9x plot layout for max. spicy peppers harvest, but 100% lazy (pre-apples)?

static parrot
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I can't wait for my apple tree to not be crooked anymore lol. No idea how this even happened.
Also don't judge my layout, I'm just having fun with it

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tacit stratus
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It's pretty.

pliant glade
clear kindle
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doesn't matter on the order, but yes, better to have fertilizer on the crops at each growth tick, but you can stack it up to 99 units per square, though blueberries and spicy peppers use 4 units per growth tick and apples use 9 units per growth tick so you go through it quicker

static parrot
true saffron
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i am trying to figure out a garden design that maximizes the crops i can get for cooking parties (apples, blueberries, wheat in particular). Does anybody have any good layouts they use?

vernal bluff
true saffron
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i would prefer it to be retained but it's ok if its not

wintry wave
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does it help to do quality increase boost fertilize 5x on a crop

vernal bluff
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The onion does not play any role, u can plant any crop instead

true saffron
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wow i appreciate it so much!

vernal bluff
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The extra soil plot is to plant anything else u need

true saffron
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wonderful - thank you!

vernal bluff
wintry wave
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ooh luckly my setup is 4days max xD

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and luckly i would only tested 5 first before upstacking

vernal bluff
wintry wave
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ooh thanks šŸ˜„ so ya can't lose overstacks

clear kindle
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5 apple trees, harvest boosted 100%, water retain 100%

true saffron
clear kindle
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can use weed fertilizer to prevent weeds if you want to, or, once you have enough wheat can actually replace the wheat and corn for carrot/onion/bok choy for 100% weed and water retain (ultimate lazy) and use harvest boost on the trees only

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or can use this layout and put speedygro on the trees if you don't mind weeding

true saffron
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oh thats smart tysm!

true saffron
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also - how many apples do you get for each harvest?

clear kindle
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with harvest boost? 24 per tree, 120 for all 5 at the same time

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at least with my layout

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but i also don't use speedygro, so not sure if that affects the number

true saffron
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got it ty!

clear kindle
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i do the ultimate, ultimate lazy setup. on mine i use bok choy/onions instead of the wheat/corn for 100% weed and water and then i only harvest the apple trees since i sell apple jams and worm farms

true saffron
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smart. i'll do that when i have enough wheat!

clear kindle
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i just like going out doing other things such as mining and fishing to get my money so gardening isn't the main goal. obviously, harvesting everything would make far more money, and i'm sure that there are better plot designs but this one works for how i play

alpine eagle
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does anyone have a farm lay out i'm only lvl 3 or 4 and i have max farm plots too

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for lvl quick and for money

true saffron
clear kindle
alpine eagle
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thank you i'll have a look

clear kindle
alpine eagle
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some what simple 3x3 garden

white pelican
alpine eagle
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yeah tomatos take a bit to grow

white pelican
remote sorrel
alpine eagle
slow flame
remote sorrel
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thank you!! chapaahappy

wary finch
slow flame
wintry wave
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Quick question if i for example have growth weed and i let them in the ground and i plant another crop

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do i still have the harvest boost ?

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from the wheat or does it only work if it's a not fully grown seed

robust thistle
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new weed plot layout ive been using šŸ˜„ gardening over 25 with star seeds gives this 100% weed prevention, 100% quality boost, 100% water retention, and 100% harvest boost with 0 fertilizers so you can use speedy grow if you want growth boost as well! no plant in the middle 1x1 spot but still, 28 1x1 options spots, or 4 2x2 and 12 1x1 option spots, or 4 apples.

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and apple option

spring spruce
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what boosts do you get from your gardening lvl post 25, is it just the quality?

slow flame
spring spruce
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so anything beyond 50 is just an achievement? not the best channel to ask, but do other skills have similar boosts? or at least increased probabilities? (for example gold/silver chances)

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gardening 24, so im about to do away with cotton for a bit after next harvest. also thanks for your reply

slow flame
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Cooking level probably helps getting star quality too. But yes, levels aren't all that important overall

devout hornet
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Just got my first bloob seed from zekiā€™s prize machine šŸ˜®

spring spruce
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just realized, lol. nice!

spring spruce
devout hornet
devout hornet
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How do I un-till my soil? :3

dusty kayak
static quiver
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that's a thing?! chapaafire

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also, hiya @devout hornet šŸ™‚

dusty kayak
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sorry what i said was for destroying crops, but also destroy a couple crops and it'll get untilled

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forgot to clarify

static quiver
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that's actually what I meant šŸ™‚ I wasn't aware crops could be dug up. It's always harrowing when I plant, one miss-click and the entire layout is done for. I feel dumb not knowing this earlier!

fathom hornet
devout hornet
quaint pier
# fathom hornet

how do you have your garden set up ? im looking to make money this way i have all soil and seeds šŸ™‚

terse crag
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Found two 6k/day farms from another user, you can also plant literally just bok choy or criss cross bok choy and tomatoes if you want water retention. Harvest boost and speed gro are good buffs from fertilizer or companion crops.

Not sure what the optimal profit layout is, but it's probably not fun to maintain. Ease of planting/growing/harvesting are important and personal factors which should be considered when choosing your layout.

Good luck and have fun!

quaint pier
terse crag
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Actually wait I forgot to mention processing methods, you want seed makers for some crops and preserves jars for others. Worm farms add a little bit more profit to preserved food by feeding worms then selling the resulting worms+fertilizer.

More processing is a little more profitable but requires more bandwidth (available crafting stations and time to process + switch out input/outputs.)

terse crag
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Yeah if you click the link in my first reply that says gardening, it will redirect you to a post that contains two different links to garden layouts

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do you use star seed or normal seed?
and which one do you sell? star or normal?

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bcs what i always do is

sell the star fruits/vegs, and the normal one i take to seed maker and then farm them then repeat

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I like having 5 apple trees, the tomatoes to water and the 12 plots in the middle row get swapped for different crops i need

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i should be using soil on everything , somtimes i sprinkle it all over but i make a point to keep my apple trees topped up on harvest increase

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So does anyone know or know where i can find out how harvest boost fertilizer works?
Like, can i just add it seconds before a harvest and it works maximally?
Am i wasting harvestboost fertilizer by fertilizing apple trees the second i plant them?
Xo Worried Fertilizer

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And also no, if u add it seconds before it wonā€™t work, it should be applies during every grow tick of the plant

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Thank you!

bold sapphire
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Guys.. am I a bonobo?? please explain to me a noobie, why is tree only receiving one benefit while it has all these other crops around it?

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vernal bluff
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It seems u might have some visual bugs

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Looolchapaafire

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No no, I meant the one near the pepper, Iā€™m outside now, so couldnā€™t see well, that itā€™s a blueberry

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bold sapphire
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i just harvested the pepper tho

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And send again

bold sapphire
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now it seems okay no?

vernal bluff
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Only 2, so that they have 3 one crop space covered

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The right side is ok to have growth boost

bold sapphire
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yea but the boost was not there so i planted one more and now its there

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U can plant a pepper instead of bloob on the left and have quality boost

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I'm sure most of you know way better than me but I feel like giving an update on my very first apple tree in Palia anyway.

At the beginning of this week, I got the free apple seed from Nai'o. I asked here about planting it and tending it after seeing it took 10 seeds (TEN SEEDS!!!) to make a new seed and I was worried.

Listening to those suggestions, I surrounded the tree with other plants to boost harvest amount, boost quality, water, and keep it weed free. I made sure that every time I logged in, I would check and keep those bonuses applied.

The first harvest took forever (12 palia days according to the wiki). I got 17 star apples and 7 regular apples (total of 24 apples). I have now had a few of the apple harvests and gotten well over 20 apples each time and always well over 10 of them star quality. So, thank you for the suggestions.

I've also made a bunch of money. I've been harvesting and rep-planting the other veggies that surround the apple tree as they ripen and when I get 30+ of each I've put them in the preservers. One time I made over 12K from selling the stacks of veggies from the preservers.

I've got a few apple seeds in reserve now (some non-starred, some starred) and haven't sold or processed any of the apples I'm saving yet.

Thanks for reading my wall of text. Next I need to find blueberry seeds.

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harvest boost

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just got to 50!!!!

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you can do a very simple setup for 2 buffs with this layout

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just pick the pairs of crops for your buff

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i did this setup for a very long time using harvest boost fertilizer on the 4 outside corners for ease of use gardening

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dont need to water, weed, and its all harvest boost for decent profits per day, very easy and lazy set up

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every gardening level gives 2% chance of quality boost, and star seeds give 50% chance, so if you are gardening lvl 10, you have a 70% chance of getting star crops when harvesting.

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at level 25 gardening with star seeds, that setup is 100% water, 100% weed, 100% quality, and 95% harvest boost (100% harvest boost with 4 fertilizers per day)

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and if you want to push profits further, jar the tomatoes, carrots and corn, seed the bok choy and potatoes, and sell rice as is. I never did that because i was lazy and you need a lot of preserve jars and seed collectors to do that successfully

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you can seed the corn instead of jar it if you want

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not much difference for corn

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Rice is better made into seeds and sold as such šŸ˜„

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ah

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You get 4x seeds per rice and they sell at 11/16* each as seeds

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i see, yeah, i never bothered with most of them, when i did seed or jar them, i never did rice just to keep some profits coming every 3 growth cycles

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I made this chart for starred crops and things you can do with them for reference

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Highlights are the best picks for profit per item

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Hahaha

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The timing

slow flame
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Mine is interactive. Ascending preserve price for ex.

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im a beginner but i really like gardening, i was wondering how water retention works - does it last indefinitely? or for just one extra day?

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is there a layout for water retain + no weeds for then me to put other crops where ever between?

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Yeah thatā€™s what Iā€™m using basically

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Should cover all the plants you throw inbetween

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Iā€™m sure thereā€™s a more optimal pattern but Iā€™ll test some stuff out after I eat

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awesome, thanks man.
gunna chuck tons of wheat and corn on since i has 0 atm

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tropic ermine
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Heya! I used your Lv. 25+ layout and changed it a bit to create this.
I'm not super experienced with creating layouts myself, so any constructive comments are appreciated. chapaalove

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very nice chapaathumbsup

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Does anyone have a layout thatā€™s has everything on it? With 100water and hopefully 100 weeds prevention

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Hi! I currently have four soil plots/patches and was wondering if anyone had any advice on what could be a lucrative layout that is also minimum upkeep? šŸ™‚

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my experience is that it lasts as long as the plant (that gives the water retention) is there. even when grown. i use a 100% water/weed layout with apple trees and the apple trees are always watered (once the plants are grown they still give the boost). though with some of the plants after i harvest them they do require to be watered again

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I'm looking for an apple jam garden layout with no weeds or watering. How many preserve jars should I have for maximum gold? Any help is much appreciated.

clear kindle
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that is the one that i use. 100% water and weed with harvest boost to the apple trees

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this layout gives me 120 starred apples (i'm over level 25) per harvest

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Should be turning the apples into jam or seeds?

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i do 2 stacks into seeders to get my replacement seeds then the rest into jams. don't ask me how many preserve jars are needed to maximize this layout, i'm sure someone can tell you, i just play very differently to have only 6 preserve jars down and i usually have a lot of extra apples in storage

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Mkay thanks

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6 jars sounds good enough to split apples amongst
Youd want more if you were going to preserve more crops

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Can I apply a stack of fertilizer to a square in one click somehow instead of having to click 99 times?

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not yet, maybe one day

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Current layout dancecat

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Darn, was really hoping. There's a lot of (unnecessary) repetitive clicking in the game right now IMO as a person that has RSI.

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Sooooo. If I have all starred seed packs. Do I still need/wanna use quality up fert? Or they supposed to be up already? Ty

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it depends on your level. if you are close to level 25 or higher, star seeds will always give star crops, at level 50 all crops will be star crops even from regular seeds

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if you are not close then probably having cotton or quality up fert would be advisable

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somewhere there's the math for how many crops will be starred using star seeds.... something like 50% plus 2% each level or something like that?

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Will we ever get the option for more garden spaces? The uneven number is hurting my brain and I need more room šŸ¤£

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As of right now I think it would make it a bit too easy to get gold, but later on when thereā€™s more stuff I think it would be a really good idea

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Id really like more creative ways to garden, like different plots

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anyone got a a good all or most crops lay out?

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# errant zodiac anyone got a a good all or most crops lay out?

I'm using this with water and harvest boost: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-WCrSpTPSpRAA-SpCrRSpTCACbO-PTPWCrWBkCoR-CrAATAACbPB-ARWABBBBB-PTPTWTPCrW-RCrBSpSpPSpSpT-BAAWAARAA-APCoACbTACrR
with only 1 tree: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CoWTTRCbPCrR-RWTBBPBBR-BkWTORPCrSpSp-TPOWRCCoCrCb-AAAAAAAAA-CbSpSpTCrBkCWP-PRPTWSpCbCrSp-WCrBSpPBSpTR-BCoTBCbCrCrPW
this one is with water and weed: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-OBkSpTPSpCAA-SpBkCSpTRACbW-PTPOBkOCrCoC-BkAATAACbPB-ACOABBBBB-PTPTOTPBkO-CBkBSpSpPSpSpT-BAAOAACAA-APCoACbTABkC
with only 1 tree: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-TCRPBkTBBCb-CrTOCPSpOWSp-CPCbSpRCSpCrBk-BBWCrBkOCbPT-AAAAAAAAA-TPCbOCCoCoBB-OTSpBkWSpPCbC-SpRCbSpCOBkPT-PBBBkCbCCoTO
I'm sure you can find more symmetrical layouts, those I posted are made to have 2 100% boosts without fert, but using fert is good too

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thanks