🌱│gardening

[marble junco]

[idle dirge]

[gilded dove]

This inaugural meeting of the Badruu Appreciation Society will come to order! 🧑‍🌾

[vast abyss]

Wishlist - pumpkins. Pumpkin pie. Pumpkin pasties. Pumpkin bread! Big sprawly 9 plot pumpkins. And a higher soil limit.

[exotic ruin]

[nimble lark]

i just want a higher soil limit and for trees to have their own "contract" like with storage limits and stuff like that how you can have x amount but you gotta pay for more building contracts

[valid wasp]

more soil definitely needed 💯

[neat badger]

I'd love to plant fruit trees around my plot as actual trees, still trees you can harvest, but also so they look nice around the plot :) but right now that means I can't farm anything else because the soil would all be used up.

Blueberry bushes too, but they don't take a full soil, so you can't place them around the plot in an aesthetically pleasing way at the moment. :(

[nimble lark]

i really really really REALLY really also really want to cover my plot in flowers like hydrangeas and hyacinths since i see them all over the village. (did i mention i really want this?)

[sterile cape]

After update still soil become grassy after switching from one plot to another, it's annoying 😦

[upper mist]

[neat badger]

Hi Aren! let the farming commence! Hehe

[keen willow]

that bug is from the previous patch

[sterile cape]

Yeah... and patches should repair this... but maybe next time 🙂

[marsh skiff]

More soil plots pleeeeeeease

[lucid furnace]

I reported that the other day :). seemed to be a new bug after they appeared to fix the earlier variant where it always did rather than just switching plots. If you’re a 1 plot player - no issue

[hallow hornet]

I offer the /fruits/ of my studies. https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PCCoTOCrWCoP-TWCoBBABBA-PCrOAACoAAT-BBOBBCrCoOT-SpSpASpSpWPOC-AAWTBBCrBB-TCCoPRWOCoT-BBCoBBWPCO-OPRRSpSpTSpSp

[crystal pelican]

if i'm over 100 gardening, that means every crop will be ⭐ ?

[modern arch]

I think so 25+ is star crops

[crystal pelican]

thats for star seeds, but for normal is like 75+?

[keen willow]

50 for normal, star crop chance is around 50% from star seeds, 2% per farming level

[marble junco]

https://tenor.com/view/mariah-huq-m2m-married-to-med-married-to-medicine-arrive-gif-13109255

[stone terrace]

does anyone have a layout for multiple crop yield? specifically cooking crops?

i feel like most of the layouts i've seen are gathered towards high sale value, so i'm just curious if someone's got something

[keen willow]

any specific crops you want for cooking? This is a basic layout that gives 100% harvest boost, you can put any crops you need in the empty spaces. If you want wheat you can replace corn or rice with it:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNNRN

[stone terrace]

oh you gem

thank you

i was looking also for like, blueberry/apples, but i guess i can sacrifice a plot or 2 for pies

[keen willow]

if you want a blueberry+apple layout, you can try this one (also good for profit; only 4 speedGro on tomato every replant (or you can skip it); you can add water retain fert on blueberry and rice in the middle for 100% water if you want):https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HpAAR.HAAPAA-APT.SAWRABB-PR.HP.HpAAAAAA-T.SRBPWBAAA-BBBBR.HBBBB-AAABWPBRT.S-AAAAAAP.HpR.HP-BBARWAT.SPA-AAPAAR.HAAP.Hp
but speed boost has some bugs that require adjusting your play style, check speed boost section in my guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f4MQHjEC1RCNpDUz1I3eg2tioD_6yBmW0XWsVxUOJ1Y
if you just want 1 apple for cooking, you can take the previous layout and add it in one of the corners, like one of those 2 options:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PAATAAPAA-ARNACrNARN-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNNRN-NRNNCrNRCrR-NRNNCrNNRN-NRPNCrTNRP-AAAAAAAAA
the only important part it to get 100% harvest boost on all crops for optimal yield

[stone terrace]

!!!! oh my god you goddsend thank you sooo much

[sly dawn]

This is awesome! Gonna use this a lot making different layouts!

[hallow hornet]

The... The app? The app isn't mine lol

[sly dawn]

Well, still thanks for posting it here for people to see!

[still cairn]

test

[lapis ember]

helloo i was sent here.

anybody got a good AFK farm setup with minimal work / maximum reward? 🤣 decided to revamp my garden to give me a break for a while :)

[pallid gate]

any specific crops you're looking for? or just as much gold as you can get for raw crops, or do you want preserves or seeds?

[lapis ember]

can do preserves/raw crops but seeding kinda annoys me, looking to incorporate as many crops as possible, ideally all, mostly apples/bloobs ofc for max profit

im following a great one ATM that i found elsewhere. 113k with preserves. i think this is OK for now but down the line ill be switching out some rice/corn for wheat. however im always looking for better :)

[pallid gate]

alright i'll see what i can come up with. Is your gardening above 25? and will you be using mainly star seeds to plant?

[lapis ember]

full star seeds, but not above 25 yet. soon 🤞

[pallid gate]

This is one for a post 25, i didn't read this till after it was done. slightly less over all gold but full harvest buff and completely hands off; I'll work out a pre-25 gonna eat real dinner be back soon

[lapis ember]

thank u soso much for ur effort :) i could use both pre and post for when i do hit 25 anyways <3

[pallid gate]

Sounds good, I'll message when I complete the pre-25 🙂

[pallid gate]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HT.QP.HT.QCr.QA.QP.QW.QA.Q-T.HP.HT.HA.QA.QA.QA.QA.QA.Q-P.HT.HP.QA.QA.QCr.QA.QA.QW.Q-T.QCr.QA.QP.QWSp.QT.QPSp.Q-A.QA.QA.QSp.QCrWSp.QPT-A.QA.QP.QSp.QSp.QTSp.QSp.QCr-Cr.QW.QBT.QCr.QBP.HT.QP.Q-BCr.QW.QBT.QP.QW.QCr.QT.Q-BBW.QBBT.QCr.QW.QP.Q - Pre 25

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.WT.WP.WCr.WW.WCr.WW.WP.WT.W-W.WCr.WW.WCr.WT.WP.WW.WCr.WW.W-Cr.WT.WP.WT.WW.WCr.WB.WB.WW.W-Cr.WW.WCr.WT.WB.WB.WP.WB.WB.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-B.WB.WP.WW.WCr.WT.WP.WW.WCr.W-W.WT.WCr.WCr.WP.WW.WP.WT.WCr.W-T.WP.WW.WCr.WW.WCr.WW.WP.WT.W-T.WP.WW.WCr.WW.WCr.WW.WP.WT.W - Post 25

hope this helps 🙂

[lapis ember]

thank you so much for the effort they’re great <3 @pallid gate

[pallid gate]

came up with one more for pre-25: 118k and almost 4k a day, it's strictly if you're looking to make money and didn't care about apples, blueberries and peppers.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.QT.QP.QCr.QW.QCr.QP.QT.QW.Q-T.QW.QCr.QW.QCr.QP.QCr.QP.QT.Q-P.QT.QP.QCr.QW.QCr.QW.QT.QP.Q-T.QW.QCr.QW.QCr.QP.QCr.QP.QT.Q-P.QT.QP.QCr.QW.QCr.QP.QT.QP.Q-T.QP.QCr.QP.QCr.QW.QCr.QW.QT.Q-P.QT.QW.QCr.QW.QCr.QP.QT.QP.Q-T.QP.QCr.QP.QCr.QW.QCr.QW.QT.Q-W.QT.QP.QCr.QW.QCr.QP.QT.QP.Q

can be converted to post 25 by replacing quality fert with weedblock

[still dome]

Hey Palians!
My English is very bad, so I apologize first.
I am looking for an overlay for my garden.
I want to build it for maximum profit and water the plants myself, so there must be no tomatoes/potatoes.

it's okay for me if I had to process the harvest before the profit is at maximum. Does anyone already have a garden overview for this?

[crystal pelican]

here is laziest setup i'm using. No watering, no weeding, no fertilising (better sell them) and max apples for profit

[pallid gate]

Without potatoes you will want to do Corn and Wheat:

116,280 and about 3,876 a day.
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CrWCrWCrWCrWCr-WCrWCrWCrWCrW-CrWCrWCrWCrWCr-WCrWCrWCrWCrW-CrWCrWCrWCrWCr-WCrWCrWCrWCrW-CrWCrWCrWCrWCr-WCrWCrWCrWCrW-CrWCrWCrWCrWCr

If you do potato but no tomato you can get better profit:

128,352 and about 4,278 a day.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PCr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.HP-Cr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.H-PCr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.HP-Cr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.H-PCr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.HP-Cr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.H-PCr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.HP-Cr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.H-PCr.HPCr.HPCr.HPCr.HP

and of course you would still water the potatoes because they don't have buffs on themselves. unless you used water retain fert but you said you wanted to water so yea. I figured that was a no.

[still dome]

Thanks!

[rancid wigeon]

i need a garden layout that focuses on cotton (for fabric for crafting) and cake-party crops. I’m only level 10 gardening. I’m also really bad at making sure I check each day to weed/water. If anyone has any ideas, I’d greatly appreciate it

[frail escarp]

Hi folks! Been a while but I've updated Palia Garden Planner with a whole new design by frnkrs !
🔗 https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app

The UI re-work improves on the planner's visuals and should now be easier to use, it also gives me room to work on new features and content >:D
In addition, ⏩ Growth Boost is now supported and can be enabled via the settings (ty to gazar especially for providing info with this).

More info at the changelogs!

Thank you guys once again for using the garden planner, I'm truly thrilled that so many of you have managed to make use of it

[pallid gate]

i'll work something out for ya give me a lil bit and I'll message you back

[pallid gate]

Well you are a boss ❤️ thank you and those who helped you, for such a awesome tool! Keep up the great work!

[pallid gate]

Here is a pre-25 maximizing what you are interested in cotton and cake party ingredients the first one is if you have enough worm farms to produce harvest fert which is a tall order.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-Co.HA.HA.HCo.HA.HA.HCo.HA.HA.H-A.HCo.HCo.HA.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.H-Co.HCo.HCo.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-Co.HB.HB.HCo.HB.HB.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HB.HB.HCo.HB.HB.HCo.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HCo.HCo.HCo.H-B.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.HCo.HCo.HA.H-A.HA.HCo.HA.HA.HCo.HA.HA.HCo.H

The second is a bit more creative with crops and more friendly for those starting their gardening adventures. The fertilizer would be Weedblock which is purchasable at Zeki's.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-T.WCr.WW.WP.WB.WB.WCo.WB.WB.W-P.WW.WP.WT.WCr.WT.WP.WW.WCo.W-W.WCr.WT.WB.WB.WP.WB.WB.WCo.W-P.WT.WCo.WW.WCr.WW.WCr.WT.WP.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-P.WT.WCo.WW.WCr.WW.WCo.WT.WP.W-Co.WB.WB.WP.WB.WB.WT.WP.WW.W-Co.WP.WCr.WW.WT.WW.WCr.WP.WCr.W-B.WB.WT.WB.WB.WP.WW.WP.WT.W

I'll keep tweaking though if i come up with something a bit better i'll let you know.

[keen willow]

hey, one more issue - growth boost for tomato is wrong. It should have harvests on days 3,4,6,8 (has 3,5,7, 9)

[unkempt portal]

found this one off Pinterest if anyone wants to use it. I added the fertilizer though since it wasn’t there on the original picture. 2.4K a day and 72k every 30 days. Has 100 percent star quality and 96 percent water retain. The only downside is that you need multiple different kinds of fertilizer to do this one. Unless you want to skip that part. There are five crops missing from this plan so anyone wanting to use all crops won’t find this one helpful. 2 apple tree and 3 blueberry bushes.

[frail escarp]

Ty once more, should be fixed now Issue was related to not factoring in the leftover days from the tomato's initial growth stage when simulating harvest days

[dusk quarry]

Here’s the one I’ve been using

[modern arch]

It seem like your plot have like some till and untill land so you can only move a 3x3 dirt blocks i think

So you either wait for them to untill all and move or you have to destroy the crop and move when everything is until it will go away eventually

Press h and you will see what you can and can move

[sterile cape]

I was moving garden to another plot and if I am not wrong it doesn't matter if you plant until squares disappear or just harvest and stop planting anymore. From what I see it depends on time, not how many times you plant (or maybe both). When you plant you earn money but also have more work. And tbh I have no idea if something changed after last patch... for sure you can remove seed by right-clicking with hoe but didn't try with squares 🤔

[modern arch]

You can remove it with right click

Or left

Not sure which side haha

[twin oasis]

Beginner question, but (for example) how long does the Weedblock fert last for? Just one crop? Just one cycle between 6am and 6pm? Asking because harvest boost (used on fruit bushes and trees) seems to disappear quickly. Put it on the game morning, game evening it's gone? doesn't show on "examine"?

[analog portal]

Yep. One Palian day.

[keen willow]

you need to use 1 unit per day for full boost. E.g. using 4 unit on potato (5 day grow) will leave you with 4/5 chance to get harvest boost. You can stack fertilizer charges.
weedblock/water retain lasts 1 day

[dapper stratus]

my plot design if you are planning to attend apple cake parties, apple pie parties, bouillabaisse parties using black sea bass, vampire crab pot pie parties, and chili oil dumpling parties. these recipes are mostly done for profit and for focus food.

plot layout is focused on apples because the lfg channel most of the time has apple cake parties. apple pie needs wheat and apples. bouillabaisse needs potato, onion, and wheat. vampire crab pot needs corn, onion, potato, and wheat. chili oil dumpling needs wheat, rice, pepper, and any veggie.

plot design is suited for those who are planning to join cooking parties in #1143270926394335282

[errant obsidian]

What is the difference between before and after level 25?

[keen willow]

star crop chance is around 2% per gardening level and 50% from star seeds, at lv 25 you no longer need quality boost to get 100% star crop chance from star seeds

[pallid gate]

what Gazar said. Meaning no need for cotton and technically no need for peppers unless you want them for fabric / cooking respectively.

[errant obsidian]

Oh, cool. Thank you!

[twin oasis]

Thank you so much. Brilliant. Very helpful, thanks.

[twin oasis]

what about preserves for Peppers? They're not bad value, better than carrots for example.

[keen willow]

converting peppers to preserves generates decent profit/h (in general all preserves generate similar profit per h, differences are mostly because of rounding), but crops alone are the least profitable and that part hurts the overall profit. you can check my spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f39XkRS-H6WaeKaCwS_iyLZVhTvmfpu14irjb8K9awU/edit#gid=992716853

[pallid gate]

Again, Gazar is speaking the truth. Also something to note: due to time it takes to turn things into preserves and time it takes to grow, some things that seem like they would be better (as in they show a higher gold sale value) are actually slightly less due to the time it takes. Carrots may not be the best preserve but if you need the weedblock and you aren't using fertilizer it's still something to consider as it is one of the quickest turn arounds for both growth and preserve creation. **From my observations

really depends on the variables of what you "want" and "need" to round out your garden.

[twin oasis]

Yes, makes sense. Time sink versus gold return.

[storm haven]

anyone else having to water their crops the next day even with the water retain buff?

[keen willow]

you sure it's not weeds? Some ppl reported having problems with water retain (i think it was fertilizer, not 100% sure), but my plot is working as intended (water retain works on both crop boost and fertilizer)
here is that post i saw yesterday: #🤝│game-help message, maybe compare layouts and look for pattern to report a bug.

[rotund slate]

I think I'm finally done obssessing over this. All crops with 100% weed prevention and water prevention

[sterile cape]

I realized that maybe if you keep 'ready to harvest' tomatoes/potatoes for next day and soil underneath them become dry they may not give that water retain buff anymore, not sure but had the same problem when left my garden for longer 🤔

[torpid rock]

Hey guys
What have you been using lately to get a lot of Glow worm? What about normal worms? In this case, to use and to sell

[keen willow]

full spreadsheet for worms (by bella): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/edit#gid=0
formulas:
glow worm = value/50 [rounded; min 1; midpoint rounded down]
fertilizer (harvest/speedGro) = 2 + value/10 [rounded; midpoint rounded down]
regular worm = 2 + value/10 [rounded; midpoint rounded down]
quality fert = 6 + value/4 [rounded down]

if you want a lot of worms and/or speedGro use cake, otherwise use morel from zeki or leftover meat for easy 1 worm

[torpid rock]

Thanks

[distant dawn]

Sharing my CEY'S PIE / CAKE MAKER farm layout I made for 300+ apples and 250+ blueberries per full harvest, maximum growth rate and maximum harvest rate, plus wheat for pies (can subsitute wheat for rice or corn), requires weeding and watering

reminder that if you use star quality seeds all harvests will be star quality

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-WWWWBBWBB-AAAAAAAAA-WWWBBWBBW-AAAAAAAAA-WWWWBBWBB-AAAAAAAAA-WBBWBBWWW-AAAAAAAAA-BBWBBWWWW

[pallid gate]

post- level 25 correct. Pre-25 even star seeds have a chance to produce normal quality yield.

[distant dawn]

ah okay, tysm! I'm higher level so I never would have noticed

[pine narwhal]

Has anyone shared a weed prevention & water retention plan for a 4x2? I use one for a landscaping area by my front door 😅

[hazy bridge]

I use starred pickled potaotes, as it gets me up to the 2 glow worms an hour without any cooking effort on my part. Starred pickled corn works too, but not as much fertilizer

[keen willow]

i think it's easier to just have 2 glow worm farms running on morel from zeki, than 1 preserves jar + 1 glow worm farm processing potato (it takes 1:56 for preserves+glow worm anyway). Unless you also need fertilizer or have limited glow worm farms (since they use flow wood)
blueberry/apple jam might be worth it for speedGrow

[misty pebble]

Yup, I did morels for the glow worms until I realized I wanted speedgrow for my large crops and started making blueberry jam.

[smoky token]

Oh nice - gonna have to give this one a try.

[hazy bridge]

Well I'm at max crafters and I have 16 preserve jars and 4 glow worm farms set up. No reason I couldn't switch it around, but I haven't as of yet. And yeah, I use a lot of harvest boost on my garden. I maximized the growth boost and water retain, so harvest is what I add constantly.

[modern arch]

Press h?

[devout canopy]

I was in a similar situation. It can be a bit frustrating. But destroying some crops actually helped me with last bit of plants to turn soil barren

[slim peak]

Is the weed block fertilizer working or is it still worked?

[analog portal]

DEVs, we need more gardening plots.

[warped hazel]

Anyone got this? Kinda want to see it before buying

[warped hazel]

ty

[zenith summit]

When is the best time to use fertilizer? Right after I plant and water for the first time?

[keen willow]

you need to use 1 unit per day for full boost. E.g. using 4 unit on potato (5 day grow) will leave you with 4/5 chance to get harvest boost. You can stack fertilizer charges.

[neon jungle]

Oh wow that's cooler than I expected.

I'm still saving for the well but dang.

[valid wasp]

well is worth to save for though, since we can refill can from it

[neon jungle]

Yeah that's why I want it, so I can move my unsightly garden out of the way

[warm topaz]

I got sad when i just went to buy more and the max is 9.. why 😦

[pallid gate]

Most likely due to this being Beta, the Devs are still balancing plot buffs and 9 was a good starting base. If they expand it will change the dynamic of how plants can fit and interact on the board. It probably will change at some point, but for now I think it's safe to say it's not a priority, yet.

[paper horizon]

Does it do anything

[neon jungle]

I dunno man. I kinda want a few crops for well rounded cooking but otherwise I just want money and stuff for cake parties and my worm bins. Any feedback on this one?

[sterile cape]

I have similar... everything for cooking and the rest going to 15 preserves jars and 8 seeders 😅 I don't take part in parties, and I use apple jam to feed my glow worms, for fishing which gives me even more money. And have enough SpeedyGro to use it for my bushes.

[pallid gate]

if you don't need the cotton for the things you said above, you don't really need them in your field, is something i caught at a glance. I'll see if I can tweak anything else

is there a reason you have Day 20 as your Last Harvest?

[neon jungle]

No I don't know why it's set to that

But I want some cotton on hand. And it has a nice sell price.

[neon jungle]

Mind if I steal your garden plot format? lol

[pallid gate]

It is your field 🙂 I wouldn't try to tell you what to do hehe. However, if you're looking for raw crop gold and "cake stuffs" versus (long wait time profits) you should consider that each plot point should maximize what you are trying to achieve. Which would look slightly different depending on your method. As you see Jane has chosen long wait time profits via her crops being turned in preserves and seeds.

[sterile cape]

If I didn't want you to try I wouldn't share 😉 I know it's not perfect but I am too lazy to change it 😂

[neon jungle]

I totally appreciate the feedback! I know I've needed cotton from time to time, but I was thinking about just not having it anymore and buying it when I need it.. but the sell price is okay, so I'm unsure-? I'm conflicted on the second apple tree but I feel like 2 each of bloob and peppers is good.

I tried some alternative layouts but I guess I'm stuck because I keep getting about the same output. Jane's looks amazing tho.

[sterile cape]

That's true... you can go anywhere, for example for fishing meantime to earn more... cake parties also need time and hard work. I can go out after I plant, stay away for almost 2 days, back before 6 am, plant, plant again after 6 am, refill jars and seeders and I am free ☺️

[neon jungle]

I would like that. And I tend to wait a few days until I'm back anyway.

Actually, I just saw the processing part that you can add. I think I'm good?

And throw those jams to the worms for a lil extra

[sterile cape]

You see... your is more profitable than mine 😁

[neon jungle]

I like money.

Still on the fence about those cottons but if I turn them into seed when I'm not using them I guess they aren't causing any harm.

Thanks for the perspective!

[valid wasp]

Nope, it's just a decoration

[golden blade]

who takes relics in palia?

oops wrong post sorry

[shy ruin]

i'm looking to make the most profitable, yet lazy crop layout possible

• post-25
• no weeding
• no watering
• no fertilizers

so far I've been using this, jarring carrots/onions/corn and seeding tomatoes/potatoes. I get a little bit of extra money worming the jarred stuff - does anyone have something more profitable?

[sterile cape]

It looks really good 🙂 Instead of making seeds you can put potatoes and tomatoes into the jars too and make seeds from rice and check the difference.

[dreamy harbor]

besides cakes, what produces speedygro fert?

[keen willow]

all sweet food (sweet leaf, apple, blueberry and dishes made from them)

[dreamy harbor]

ty!<3

[austere bronze]

I'm post 50 now and am trying to figure out if it might be worthwhile to buy seeds from Zeki again. I use gazar's Potato/Rice/Tomato/Corn layout. Napkin math has me thinking that Corn and Tomato Seeds are worth buying from Zeki but the crops I seed (Potato/Rice) aren't. Is this correct?

[keen willow]

it should not be cheaper to buy seeds post lv 50 than craft your own (since they cost double value at zeki, so still more than starred). But i do use the extra unstarred seeds you get sometimes from seed maker for replanting.

[austere bronze]

Ah yes, I think I messed up the opportunity cost of not preserving the crop vs. multiple seed output by seeding to replace crops...For example opportunity cost of Seeding one corn is not 90 but 22.5, while Zeki sells the seed for 30.

If you seed 3 Tomatoes into 2 Seeds you miss out on 153 Revenue but since 2 Seeds cost 160 from Zeki it is still is better to reseed with the Seed maker.

At least I can use those normal seeds from the seed maker like you said, and normal seeds you get from Zeki coins.

[pallid gate]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-OPRCTCrRPC-COCPTPOPT-RPOCrTCCCrR-PTOCOPPTCr-RCrRTOTRCP-OTPROCCrTP-RCrCCTOOPR-TRTPTPCOC-CCrROTCRPO

slight monetary improvement but otherwise that was really well done. Not sure if 2k makes a difference though in the scheme of 30 days.

or if you purchase Weedblock of 4,860 to weed proof your garden for 30 days. You gain a profit of 13k. 132,151 - 4,860 = 127,291.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-R.WP.WR.WCr.WT.WCr.WR.WCr.WR.W-Cr.WT.WP.WR.WCr.WR.WP.WR.WCr.W-R.WCr.WR.WCr.WT.WP.WT.WCr.WT.W-P.WR.WCr.WT.WCr.WR.WP.WR.WCr.W-T.WCr.WR.WP.WR.WCr.WT.WCr.WR.W-P.WR.WCr.WT.WP.WR.WP.WR.WCr.W-R.WCr.WR.WCr.WT.WCr.WR.WP.WR.W-P.WR.WCr.WR.WCr.WR.WCr.WT.WP.W-T.WCr.WT.WCr.WT.WP.WR.WCr.WR.W

Hope these help!

[grand arch]

It feels like the Gardener's Growhouse item you get from Einar should be plantable and harvestable. That would count as a 10th plot.
I mean I'm sure it would be super easy to script before the next update. SUPER easy.
Just sayin'.

[shy ruin]

@pallid gate @sterile cape thank you both for the feedback, i’ll ruminate on these ideas. I like money, but I also like being lazy

[pallid gate]

I use that for money making too. However I do rice corn in groups and potatoes the rest.

[nocturne elk]

Making potatoes into seeds is more profitable (18g diff with pickled potatoes), meanwhile putting tomatoes into jars is more profitable.

[regal hollow]

Wait really?

[sterile cape]

Comparing time you need to produce both, jars are a little better (if I checked/counted well) but difference isn't big

[keen willow]

potato preserves are more g/h, but less g per potato. If you are at machine cap (produce more crops than you can process) you should go with mixed preserves/seeds, if not go for seeds.

[rotund slate]

What's the best way to process every crop?

In terms of gold per hour

[keen willow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1f39XkRS-H6WaeKaCwS_iyLZVhTvmfpu14irjb8K9awU/edit#gid=1541987521
in most cases, if you can preserve it that is better then seeds

[nocturne elk]

Makes sense. I didn't think about the g/h. I just go with what's more regardless of time bec I don't play so much

[coarse surge]

Hi all, so sorry for my noobness, but I'm trying to figure out how that plan thingy everyone sends in here works. Is there a manual which I can read? Is it correct you still have to work on your garden every day for the removal of weed and watering, or can you just leave it for 30 days and come back (since I read '30 days' everywhere). Do you have to count how many seeds you will be needing for replant for 30 days (since they all have different harvest days). So sorry for bothering you pro's, but I have tried several so far and it just doesn't seem to work since I don't understand the concept of it 🙂

[tribal sandal]

Each crop has some effects they give to nearby crops such as water prevention or weed prevention or boost quality

If you hover over any seed you'll see what it does or you can look online

Any plant boosted by water retention won't need watering otherwise you have to water everyday

[coarse surge]

Thanks so much for your help! Do you know if there is some guide which can help me to understand this all?

[tribal sandal]

This is farming wiki
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Gardening
You can look for farm layouts or YouTube videos for better understanding

[lapis walrus]

is there a good layout that incorporates 4 apple trees? goal is to be mostly self-tending, and make some decent gold

[lapis walrus]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-T.HpCrAWT.HpAB.HB.HA-AAB.HAAB.HAAT.Hp-B.HWT.HpB.HT.HpCrAAA-B.HB.HT.HpAAAAAA-WCrWCrT.HpCrWCrW-AAAAAAT.HpB.HB.H-AAACrT.HpB.HT.HpWB.H-T.HpAAB.HAAB.HAA-AB.HB.HAT.HpWACrT.Hp

this is the one I am currently using, happy for some pointers for improvement

[pallid gate]

Do you plan on selling the raw yield, preserves or seeds? That will really be the determining factor on the gold you are getting. As I see from your layout currently you haven't indicated which you currently are doing.

[lapis walrus]

i am turning mostly everything into preserves, the wheat/rice i just sell raw

[pallid gate]

I'll factor that in and see what i can come up with. By self-tending you would like the plot to be tended by itself, or do you mean you yourself plan to tend it? Sorry if this is a lot of questions just making sure i understand your request.

[lapis walrus]

ooh youre right, i worded that badly sorry 😅
I meant the garden should require low maintenance (no watering, weeding, if possible), but i dont mind using some watering fertilizer I can stack

appreciate the help!!

[pallid gate]

of course 🙂

[pallid gate]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.WR.WA.WT.WCr.WA.WCr.WR.WA.W-A.WA.WR.WA.WA.WP.WA.WA.WT.W-Cr.WT.WP.WR.WCr.WR.WA.WA.WA.W-R.WP.WT.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-R.WP.WR.WCr.WT.WCr.WR.WCr.WR.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WT.WP.WR.W-A.WA.WA.WR.WCr.WR.WP.WT.WCr.W-T.WA.WA.WP.WA.WA.WR.WA.WA.W-A.WR.WCr.WA.WCr.WT.WA.WR.WP.W

Let me know if you have any issue with this one. Should get you a decent chunk of change. Using 4 Apple trees and seeing you can purchase weedblock for the same amount as hydropro from Zeki you can just cover the field.

However if you'd prefer some Weed protection by use of carrots and onions you can consider this one which has slightly less money but you save some in the lack of purchasing bulk weedblock.

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-C.HP.HAO.HT.HACPA-AAR.HpAACrAAC.Hp-CO.HC.HPT.HP.HAAA-R.HpCr.WR.HpAAAAAA-O.HpC.HO.HpC.HT.HpC.HO.HpC.HO.Hp-AAAAAAR.HpCr.WR.Hp-AAAP.HT.HPC.HO.HC-C.HpAACrAAR.HpAA-APCAT.HO.HAP.HC.H

My last thought for now would be a middle ground of some fertilizer purchasing and crops to pick up the slack

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-T.WPOR.WCr.WRAAA-C.HAAPAAT.HAA-AR.WT.WACr.WPARO-AAAAAAC.HPT.H-C.HO.HC.HO.HT.HpO.HC.HO.HC.H-T.HPC.HAAAAAA-ORAPCr.WAT.WR.WA-AAT.HAAPAAC.H-AAARCr.WR.WOPT.W

[lapis walrus]

thank you so much
really appreciate it!!

[trail spire]

does anyone have a layout that has all the crops (including corn & peppers) with water retaining 100% ?
i'm playing with the planner but i'm terrible at it lol, closest i've gotten is 95 with this layout https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CrPTPBBTBB-OPOTTTCoPCo-TPCrSpSpPSpSpT-CWCrTTPCWCr-AAAAAAAAA-CrWTPTPCrWT-TSpSpPSpSpCrPT-RCrRPTPOPO-BBTBBPTPCr

can any big-brained individals help me?

[keen willow]

replaced some tomato with potato, now has 100 water:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CrPTPBBTBB-OPOPTPCoPCo-TPCrSpSpPSpSpT-CWCrPTPCWCr-AAAAAAAAA-CrWTPTPCrWT-TSpSpPSpSpCrPT-RCrRPTPOPO-BBTBBPTPCr

[trail spire]

thank you so much!!

[rotund slate]

If you're also interested in weed prevention: #🌱│gardening message

[trail spire]

ooh thank you! i dont mind a few weeds for knapweed but i'll have a tinker with this layout.

[neat saddle]

Me

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-CrTPWSpSpPSpSp-R.HOTCTWR.HPR-PWCoOCrTPCP-TBBCr.HBBCCr.HT-AAAAAAAAA-TCrRBBCrBBT-P.HCPTCrOCoWP-RPCoWTR.HTO.HCo-SpSpPSpSpWP.HTCr

I have all the crops with 100% water and 100% harvest (using 8 fertilizer in this part)

Harvest fert is the easiest to get

[sterile cape]

I posted mine here: #🌱│gardening message if you want to check 🙂 Is similar to yours I think, has everything, less potatoes/tomatoes, water retain 100%, weeds not...

[versed yew]

looking forward to trying this!

[raven birch]

got a question, do i have to put my plots in the big 9x9 square for all the boosts or is it possible to have a good farm with a different shape?

[torpid rock]

Is there any way (a calculator, for example) to get an idea of when the preserves and jellies will be ready? Like, I add a certain amount of carrots and this tool would tell me how long it would take for them all to be finished

[rotund slate]

Not that I know of. But looking up the pickling/jamming time on the wiki and multiplying should be easier than using a tool imo
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Preserves_Jar

[idle gorge]

Saw someone with all their farms lined up and a full harvest boost/watered treeline, so its possible to do other stuff for sure. Im not that creative.

[warm topaz]

Anyone else having this bug of when you place Fertalizer the numbers don't go up and it doesn't count no matter how many you put on said crop? I've lost prob like 500 Harvest boost because sometimes it doesn't count.

I thought maybe it was just a bug of not putting the numbers up of how many but they need more pretty soon after i put like 10 etc on ( i know it works cause some around them works fine. )

[carmine wave]

This was just explained to me in #🦋│issues-discussions Ones that have harvest boost buffs won't have the bonus of harvest fertilizer is how I understood it-

[warm topaz]

So the ones that have buffs from other crops can't have boosts from what ever fertilizer we use ?

Ah i read their reply to you. so weird cause some of them do work for me that's right next to a crop with boost lol

[ionic gust]

I want an AFK farm but with as many apple trees as possible does someone have a layout for that?

[carmine wave]

I'm having that confusion too; say the blueberries have quality and growth boost already- I can put quality boost and see the numbers go up? Same with the growth boost. But specifically harvest boost on plants that already have that bonus? It's really difficult when the game still lets you spend all the fertilizer even when it's not affecting anything That or I must not be getting it fully

[sterile cape]

Maybe something like this? Not huge money but 'afk' option for sure. If you add harvest boost fertilizer will have more, or change onions and carrots for rice and/or wheat and/or corn and add weed blocker. https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-OTPCPOPTC-AAAAAAAAA-OTPCPOPTC-AAAAAAAAA-OTPCPOPTC-AAAAAAAAA-OTPCPOPTC-AAAAAAAAA

[ionic gust]

thanks ill try it out

[sterile cape]

Yeah, better probably use wheat and corn instead of carrots and onions and add weed blocker because you will have to replant less often, carrots and rice you will have to replant every 3 hours 🤔

[ionic gust]

so like this?

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-Cr.WT.WP.WW.WP.WCr.WP.WT.WW.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-Cr.WT.WP.WW.WP.WCr.WP.WT.WW.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-Cr.WT.WP.WW.WP.WCr.WP.WT.WW.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W-Cr.WT.WP.WW.WP.WCr.WP.WT.WW.W-A.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.WA.W

[sterile cape]

Yes 🙂 You can try if it works as you expected

[ionic gust]

thanks!

[glossy solar]

Not sure if asked before, but can you get more soil plots for another housing plot? Or do we just get the 9 total no matter what?

[sand kindle]

Only the nine, no extras for your other plots ... yet. Maybe in far off future updates they'll let us have more, we can only hope.

[glossy solar]

k

[ionic gust]

it would only make sense honestly if new crops are introduced we need way more space xD

[hazy bridge]

Yes, here's mine. https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-01111_CROPS-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-P.HAAT.HAAP.HAA-AAAAAAAAA-APAATAAPA-AACr.HpAAW.HpAAR.Hp-TBBPBBCrR.HpW-BBBBBBPTR-BTBBPBW.HpCrR.Hp-BSpSpBSpSpWPT Lots of apple trees and blueberries, really close to complete coverage on water retain and growth burst, and harvest is easy to make, and covered in many places.

And I know exactly where my tenth plot would go, lol.

[forest estuary]

What's everyone's go to option for money making?

[raven birch]

tysm!!!

[exotic cove]

what's the point to jamming and pickling? They don't sell for much and they barely give you any focus points

[verbal saffron]

Im told apple jam is good for flow worm farm. I pickle produce if i have extra of stuff for a small boost in profit . ⭐ Pickled tomato is 51 gol so it aint too bad. And ⭐ pickled potatoes are 102

Gold*

[exotic cove]

flow worms?! How do I get those? Do I get a different worm farm?

[verbal saffron]

My bad, glow worms*

[exotic cove]

ohh dang

[verbal saffron]

Im too fast for my keyboard lol

[exotic cove]

lol all good, flow worms would be cool tho!

[keen willow]

it's +50% to value, definitely worth making to increase profits. And while focus gain is low after the nerf, it's still made passively

[sterile cape]

I posted my layout here #🌱│gardening message if you are interested. Probably there are more profitable options but have enough money for everything I need (I earned so far something between 2-3 mln gold) and everything for cooking and some cotton for fabric/seeds.

[forest estuary]

Tysm!

[modern ember]

Here is mine, 100% water retain, I just put harvest boost fertilizer.

[empty wind]

You don't even need the large plots lined up with each other. I can't exactly display my layout in the app, but this is what I had for a while before I got to 25 in gardening. The plot on the right is offset. This allowed me to have growth, water, and weed prevention on one tree, and those plus quality on the other tree. https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-1111-1111-0110_CROPS-CoTPTCOPOA-RPCCoTBAAB-OTOBPCBAA-NNNNNNACO-SpSpASpSpAOTP-AACAATBBO-OAAPAACBB-APTACrWNNN-BBCrCPROTW-PBBTCTCrOP

[forest estuary]

How is this layout possible? There are 10 soil plots instead of 9?

Oh I see on the right side you just have it as the one I get it now

[pliant nymph]

anyone have a blueberry setup thats 100% water retain?

[magic jolt]

This is my current setup https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-WPTPBBTBB-AAAAAAAAA-TPWBBPBBT-AAAAAAAAA-PTACrWABBA-AARAACrAAP-WPCrOTSpCoPSp-BBPSpPTSpCO-WPTSpSpPSpSpC

but I'm thinking of changing into this layout https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PBBTBBPAA-CrPSpWTSpAPA-SpWTSpCoPAAW-CAATAAPRW-AOAACATPW-AAWAAPCrPT-OWATPARCrA-AAAAAAAAA-AAWAATAAP thoughts?

Also why can't I export images from the site? The downloaded image is just blank

[zenith summit]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HT.HP.HT.HB.HB.HP.HB.HB.H-T.HP.HT.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-P.HT.HP.HB.HB.HT.HB.HB.HP.H-T.HT.HT.HP.HP.HP.HT.HT.HT.H-A.HA.HA.HP.HT.HP.HA.HA.HA.H-T.HT.HT.HP.HP.HP.HT.HT.HT.H-P.HB.HB.HT.HB.HB.HP.HT.HP.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HT.HP.HT.H-B.HB.HP.HB.HB.HT.HP.HT.HP.H

This is mine, 100% water retention then I use fertilizer to increase quantity.

[empty wind]

Yep, the app only supports having the corners lined up, but you don't have to in-game. The bonuses still work fine. The empty squares are where there's no plot.

[raven birch]

ahhh thank you so much

[ornate valley]

My Layout:
Not for maximum profit or low maintance but gives me all i need for my pickeling machines and cooking.
Also gives me the "real landhouse garden" look i want. The tomatoes are even protected by the outstanding roof of my kitchen so rain cant reach them well 😛 😛 Not a Palia must have but a RL must have ^^
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-10000-10000-10000-10000-11111_CROPS-OWWOBBOBB-OPTOPTOBB-OBBOCrCrOBB-OBBOPTOPT-OPTOP.HpPO.HpOO-TTTPPPOOO-TTTPPPCrCrCr-TTTSpSpCrSpSpCr-TTTCrSpSpCrSpSp

[timber basalt]

looks great running it along the side of your house 👏

[hushed bane]

here is mine

[buoyant glacier]

woowww i just got a whole face load of idk how to farm in this game lmfao

[frail escarp]

All gucci, we all gotta start somewhere with this sudoku-esque mechanic. If you need a primer, you may check either of these out!

(Arenvanya's Guide) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bjqQGwzhW7wsIpSDoO3xCMwqbX7ZbsdsuuXmPEXCrjE/edit
(Gazar's Gardening Mechanics Summary) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f4MQHjEC1RCNpDUz1I3eg2tioD_6yBmW0XWsVxUOJ1Y/edit

[buoyant glacier]

The guide was the face load XD i just used the planner to make my field water retaining, still gonna expand and redesign

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111_CROPS-PWPTRTPWP-AAAAAAAAA-CoTPSpSpCoSpSpT-PWPTRTPWP-AAAAAAAAA-CoTPSpSpTSpSpCo

[coarse surge]

Hi all, do you guys know if there is an easy way to get 30 furtilizers on 1 crop-spot? Or do you just have to click 30 times on the fertilizer?

[keen willow]

some ppl bind main action to scroll wheel to make it easier to spam, but it's probably only worth it if you plan to apply fertilizer to a lot of plots

[coarse surge]

Thanks Gazar! You really are all-knowing XD

[crude swift]

Are there any other cash crops besides tomatoes that I should know about??

[feral path]

Potatoes better than tomatoes now. Apples make good money and are easy focus food

[crude swift]

Good to know

[faint briar]

There was... no achievement

[paper horizon]

That’s a cuteee idea I might steal this idea

[crude swift]

Anyone want a spare bag of potato seeds?

[ornate valley]

Feel free 🙂 🙂

[brisk kraken]

Up and coming layout. Seed potatoes and rice, jam the rest. Despite the general consensus, it's a net loss of 625 gold when seeding vs jamming blueberries. Not hugely significant, so either way works 🙂

[coarse surge]

Hi guys, I've got an incredible noob-question: how do you get your fertilizer off of your plot that has no seed in it?

[sterile cape]

Dunno, it goes back to your inventory when you plant something there. If you have a lot fertilizer there, try to put there other type of fertilizer, so that one from field should also back to your inventory. Maybe if you pick up soil it works but don't remember, tbh... I was moving my garden long time ago.

[valid wasp]

could anyone kindly explain what Growth Boost from crops does?
I planted corn next to blueberries and it shows corn has Growth Boost, and I thought corn will grow faster than normal 5 ingame days (5 irl hours), but it doesn't work like that
I was waiting for 5 days to harvest it anyway
was searching in wiki but it has page about fertilizer only it seems, I couldn't find any other info
same goes for potato - planted it right next to apple trees and Growth Boost does nothing to them aswell

[frail escarp]

On paper, every 2nd day should add an extra day of growth. So a crop by the 2nd day should have 3 days worth of growth. With this, corn is meant to be harvestable by the 4th day.
There's a bug though that relogging will reset the speedygro tracker, making the bonus day not apply because it possibly doesn't reach that 2-day timer. Not sure if that's the case for you or something else but that's one possible explanation

[valid wasp]

oh so there's a bug?
that would explain why doesn't work for me, thanks a lot for the answer

[deep wind]

Opinions? This is my current layout

[livid pier]

So far so good but you are wasting money by using the Fertiliser since you already achieve the Harvest Boost by having Rice/Wheat around your Blueberries/Apples

[neon jungle]

Just to confirm.. if I read correctly, it says boosts from plant benefits do not stack with fertilizer that has the same benefits-? or does it?

[frail escarp]

Plants will apply a boost it's receiving once per type daily, so if there's a a plant providing the same boost as a fertiliser it will not stack

Won't consume the fertiliser either, as it prioritises the crop boosts

[neon jungle]

Great, that's what I thought. Awesome! Thank you!

[charred shoal]

This is my layout, it's easy to remember, 100% harvest boost, 100% water retain and 100% growth boost (using fertilizer from glow worm)
I convert tomatoes to jam and seeds for replanting, potatoes, wheat and rice to seeds and apples to jam.
For getting that 100% growth boost I use apple jam on glow worms but It's quite expensive ofc I feel I'm losing a lot of money, also sometimes I just have too many crops to convert into seeds so I lose a few rotations and it's not 100% efficient.I also rotate the apples between onions and carrots for cooking but only when I really need it. Any advice on how could I improve the layout for being more efficient? I'm focusing on not having to water my plants and having something simple to remember so I can plant everything and go do something else, and due to tomato nerf, I think potatoes are more profitable, that's why I have so many (but they are slow to process)
Sorry for all the text and sorry if something is hard to understand I don't speak english too much!

[charred shoal]

I posted day 10 so here's day 30 with jam and stuff

[twilit quarry]

Wow gardening for money is looking overwhelming to me 😅😅😅 Going to have to sit down and do some research

[livid pier]

I´m running a similar layout, but i dont use any fertilizers, you could already spare some Money by skipping on the Growth Boost Fertilizer around your apple since Apple tree already gives that boost to surrounding crops, doubeling it does nothing and is just a waste of money in the long run since it dosnt stack up

[livid pier]

Its overwhelming at first i agree but thankfully to some awesome People we have this nice little site https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/ maybe just give it a try and play around with some layouts that fit your playstyle, if you have any questions feel free to ask

[twilit quarry]

Thank you for the info, I will take a look!

[charred shoal]

Oh that's true tysm <3!

[wispy hearth]

Hello people, may I ask in what form is better to sell apples, tomatoes, blueberrys and peppers? I think I might need to turn some of them into seeds for replanting, but apart from that I dont know anything else

[clever compass]

Tomatoes, blueberries, and peppers sell for the most gold as seeds.

[wispy hearth]

thank you!!

[limber hatch]

any1 got a garden for 2x2? without apples, blueberries and peppers

[ancient chasm]

what crops can I sell purely for profit without worrying too much about cooking?

[sterile cape]

For different recipes you need different crops... hard to say, you're the one who decide maybe this will help (https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Gardening). For example I have on my field everything for cooking and some cotton and still have pretty nice profit.

[storm dawn]

Found this layout on google. Is it a good layout?

[keen willow]

it's missing water retain on 4 apples, and harvest boost on wheat and potato. If you wan 5 apple layout maybe try something like this:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-RCrRPTPRCrR-AAAAAAAAA-PRPTCrTPRP-AAAAAAAAA-PRPTCrTPRP-AAAAAAAAA-RCrRPTPRCrR-AAAAAAAAA
or this 6 apple layout:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-R.HpAACrAATAA-AR.HAAPAATA-AAR.HpAACrAAT-PAAR.HAAPAA-ACrAARAAPA-AAPAAR.HAAP-TAACrAAR.HpAA-ATAAR.HAAP.HpA-AATAACrAAR.Hp
or this 4 apple+4blueberry (apple has growth boost; bb and 1 rice don't have water retain, can add this with fertilizer):
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HpAAR.HAAPAA-APT.SACrRABB-PR.HP.HpAAAAAA-T.SRBPCrBAAA-BBBBR.HBBBB-AAABCrPBRT.S-AAAAAAP.HpR.HP-BBARCrAT.SPA-AAPAAR.HAAP.Hp

[storm dawn]

Thanks!!

[raw fjord]

Hi I read in a guide that the growth fertilizer can make crops grow unevenly and over complicate the process. Is this true? Is this also the case for apple/bloob proximity buffs?

[keen willow]

it can happen if boost is not consistent, e.g. if you have one potato with boost, and one without they will go out of sync. An apple/bb boost is same as SpeedGro

[raw fjord]

I heard it actually had a chance of working or not. Interesting

[keen willow]

that 2-day progress for growth boost is not saved currently, resets when you logout or change map. This can cause problems or require you to adjust when you play

[livid hollow]

Hello fellow Palians! I got my first apple seed and 9x9 setup. Do these stats look decent?

[sinful cargo]

does anyone have blueberry and apple tree layout with harvest boost and water retain? plsss haaalp 🙏

[sterile cape]

Yeah, not bad but if you are under 25 lvl I would add some fertilizer to increase quality.

[keen willow]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HpAAR.HAAPAA-APT.SACrRABB-PR.HP.HpAAAAAA-T.SRBPCrBAAA-BBBBR.HBBBB-AAABCrPBRT.S-AAAAAAP.HpR.HP-BBARCrAT.SPA-AAPAAR.HAAP.Hp
not full water retain, but you can add water fertilizer on bb and rice in the middle

[livid hollow]

Thank you! I plugged in everything hoping for the best. I am level 60 but will prob add fertilizer just in case

[sterile cape]

Oh, so you don't have to... if you use starred seeds after 25 lvl in gardening you will get starred crops anyway. Better add some SpeedyGro, especially for your apples tree 😉 If you wanna see mine, I posted it here (but I have sometimes a lot of weeds): #🌱│gardening message

[sinful cargo]

ohhh thanksss!!! will be trying this

[livid hollow]

Dope thanks again! Very helpful 🫶🏽
I'll def check yours out

[slow flame]

I feel like the game is pretty good except that the farming is waaay too realistic. I have been playing for 3 days and I still havent finished the first farming quest, if you want to work on a large farm it could possibly take 1-2 hours to hoe the entire thing, you have to water the plants multiple times, as well as weeding them which isnt that bad but you should only have to water the plants once.

Also I just found out it will take 8 hours to finish the house after providing all the resources... I didnt come here to play clash of clans lmao

[slow flame]

Any idea if the developers are working to fix this issue with the farming?

[livid pier]

There is a limitation as to how many Farming land you can have, while leveling up your skills you´ll also be able to upgrade your equipment which means your wateringcan on highest upgrade will be able to water 9 plants at the same time etc

As for having to water multiple times not sure what exactly you mean but you only have to water them once per day, if you get a little bit deeper into Gardening you´ll figure out that each Plant gives different Boost to surrounding plants for example Tomatos and Potatos give Water Retain, if you plant them in a smart way you wont have to water anything at all after your first day of Watering, there are also Crops like Carrots and Onions which prevent Weed from crowing on surrounding crops etc.
Its a lot to get into but nothing that has to be "fixed" its well balanced as it is imo

[slow flame]

I just feel like farming that takes multiple days and hoeing that takes ages just takes away from the fun of the farming. Dont get me wrong I like farming I do it in quite a bit of games but the way it is implemented kind of takes the fun out of it

[sand kindle]

as you upgrade your equipment it takes less time.

[gritty narwhal]

so what exactly changes when you hit level 25 in gardening? can't really find anything about it on the wiki

[keen willow]

you get 50% chance of star crops from star seeds, and 2% per level of gardening, so at lv 25 you get 100% chance for star crops from star seeds without the need for quality fertilizer

[gritty narwhal]

ooo i see, thanks for clarifying

[sterile cape]

At the beginning all activities are harder and take more time... if you use flint arrows you can't kill sernuk at one shot and from far, chopping trees takes ages, mining too. Theoretically (except quests) you don't have to take care of garden at all... you can earn money other ways and buy vegetables but this way you won't get starred vegetables for cooking. Even if you don't wanna cook, you can buy food but it won't give as much focus as starred food. In short... give it some time and check if it's so bad. I take care of my garden once per 2 hours (from 4 to 8 am in game, because at 6 am crops are growing) the rest of the time I can do whatever I want. Even if I spend less time in garden than outside, my gardening lvl is over 100, and the rest below 30 (except hunting which is below 15 and fishing which is a little over 30). Gardening gives you easy money, and can give you a lot of money if you invest in other things later. I like gardening and also did this in few games before... and in some was easier but in some others way harder. Hope that you will change your mind about gardening 🙂 Good luck with hoeing and watering!

[storm dawn]

I noticed u mentioned a 6 Apple layout, but it seems both it and the 5 apple layout links are the same?

[keen willow]

copied wrong link, fixed; here is the 6 apple one:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-R.HpAACrAATAA-AR.HAAPAATA-AAR.HpAACrAAT-PAAR.HAAPAA-ACrAARAAPA-AAPAAR.HAAP-TAACrAAR.HpAA-ATAAR.HAAP.HpA-AATAACrAAR.Hp

[storm dawn]

Thanks!

[zenith summit]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.H-A.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.H-A.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.H-T.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.H-A.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.H-A.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.H-P.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.H-A.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.H-A.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.H

this is what I use for apples. I preserve everything and sell.

[gleaming stratus]

If this are the current seeds i can have right now. Is this a good layout?

Or is there a better one?

[sterile cape]

Isn't bad but at the beginning would be better to have a little bit more cotton to increase quality of your crops. Maybe something like this for now? Has 100% water retain so you wouldn't have to watering that often, and little better quality and harvest stats, and a bit higher profit. In future you can change 4 wheat for 4 rice if you wanna have more ingredients for cooking. Link: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11-11_CROPS-WTCoCoPCOTW-WPCoCoTCOPW-WPCoCoTCOPW-WTCoCoPCOTW

[sterile cape]

Sometimes I think that always is better layout but you will change it anyway soon, when you will have more types of seeds and more soil 😉

[storm dawn]

Ooooh, thanks. It's simpler with only 2 other crops. Might use this

[stable oasis]

I just found a new gardening pattern; am I supposed to harvest every crop as soon as it grows or wait until every crop is ready? (e.g. harvesting rice before potatoes)

[frail escarp]

Typically the former. As long as you replant the day it's harvested, the crop bonuses made by the layout isn't lost

Latter is still doable tho and more for personal preference, but you lose out on gold

[gleaming stratus]

Thks. Will definitly try this out!

[late hearth]

Hi, is there a way to remove a seed planted by error ?

[modern arch]

Rmb when the hoe out

[past nymph]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-TCoTRWRTCoT-AAAAAAAAA-RTWTCoTRTW-RWRTCoTRWR-WTRTCoTWTR-AAAAAAAAA-TCoTRWRTCoT-AAAAAAAAA after messing around for abit with different combination this is the best one i have got so far. let me know what u think about it?

[sterile cape]

The best for what? I mean do you need a lot of apples or you mean profit? Not bad amount of gold, I must admit.

[livid pier]

If it fits your playstyle then it great !
For me personally i always strive to have 100% Water retain, thats my go to, everything else i build around that.

This is what i´m running at the moment, Gold outcome will differ if you pre25 tho

[past nymph]

yea im talking about the gold.. but i guess tamatoes still rule the show lol

[past nymph]

does this preset give the most gold?

i need gold for backpack and storage box... its a pain to do hunting now that i have done it a few times like my hands go numb at the end burning 500 arrows everytime lmao

[livid pier]

This one here is the one who gives the most money i could come up with so far.
Preserved Corn goes into normal Worm Bins which increases the value by another 5k but thats just super min/maxing
And keep in mind, if you are below level 25 in Gardening it will be less gold since you´ll still get non Star crops, this only gives so much because its 100% Gold Crops for me on gardening level 36

[past nymph]

damn well thnx for the layout i will definately give it a try... i only started working on crops today... like i had lvl 1 gardening but 34 lvls in total so never really focused on that...

[past nymph]

any other tip to maximize profit for newbie on this? and dos and donts..

[bold tulip]

For @tacit ice , my current layout

[brisk kraken]

I was doing something similar to this for a while, but I've decided to simplify things. So, this is my current layout. Using grilled fish for 2 glow worm makers, then apple and blueberry jam for the regular one's. All I need for fert is Harvest Boost. Once you get enough of that, you can just switch to morels 🙂

It nets me 115,342 jarring all but potatoes. About 10k less than my more "involved" one, but I'm good with gold

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-T.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.H-A.HT.HP.HA.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.H-T.HP.HT.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-B.HB.HT.HB.HB.HP.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HB.HB.HT.HB.HB.HP.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HT.HP.HT.H-T.HP.HA.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.H-A.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.H

[livid pier]

Really when it comes to making money with gardening the go to is you got to invest money to make even more money, while just selling your crops as they are will start you off with a decent amount of money, investing that money into more machine certificates to have more Seed producer or later Preserved Jars will increase your ability to make money tenfold, but its a journey to get there, specially when like you said you are only starting out !

[shadow night]

Wow you guys have progressed so much further then me i felt i was doing okay xD

[bold tulip]

Ah, yeah. I hate apples. 1 they grow too slowly, but that's just whinging. The main thing is even my one tree lags out my entire laptop, specifically when I'm under it, and the graphics show me through the branches, it just crawls. Not sure if 5 trees would make it worse, since I'm only ever under 1 at a time. I did used to have a 2 apple tree setup, pre peppers and corn, and that didn't seem to make it any worse

I'm making so much money, already, though, I'm not really trying to optimize anything. About every 4 days, I have to go find things to blow 100K+ 🪙 on, to stay below the silly cap

[brisk kraken]

Nice! Most times I have no issues with lag, but when I do, I think it's the seeders and jammers. And yes, Apples are slow, but I use the jam as focus food. I just wanted to simplify things and this layout did the trick for me. There's so many options that everyone can find a layout that works for them 🙂

[bold tulip]

Ah, that makes sense. I decided, awhile back, to play the long game. Since I am now not trying to speed-run my levels, I never eat. Since I'm never looking at foods as Focus, it gives me a different perspective

[sullen violet]

Hey guys, just got my first two apple seeds from Zeki, could you help me to find some worthful layout for making money? Idk about fert, though, haven't realized how to make harvest boost yet

[brisk kraken]

This is @livid pier current layout. No fertilizer required, but you will have to weed daily and you need seeders and jammers to get the most profit along with 9 plots

[sullen violet]

that's apple and tomato jam?

[brisk kraken]

yes

[sullen violet]

and what's last yellow thing?

[brisk kraken]

corn preserves

[sullen violet]

aight and how many seeders and jammers you have?

[brisk kraken]

and tomato preserves. so he jars the tomatoes', corn and apples and seeds the potatoes and rice

[brisk kraken]

I have 25 total, but this isn't my layout. you'd need to ask @livid pier how many he has

[sullen violet]

ohh, ok so much of em 😮

and one more question...

what means lvl 25+

[brisk kraken]

yes 🙂 a lot of players have 30, which is the limit

[sullen violet]

is there any boost on lvl 25?

[brisk kraken]

but doing so means they give up their smelters and weavers and wood chippers etc

there is

you get all star seeds and produce from your harvests

so even if you use a non-starred seed, it will produce starred veggies/fruit

[sullen violet]

ohhh, so i'll be like less on money before i get lvl 25?

[brisk kraken]

when you're at this level, you're making so much gold that you can afford to buy w/e items you need for quests, that's if you have any quests left 🙂

[brisk kraken]

most likely, yes

but there's no rush

take your time and enjoy the game. you'll get here before you know it

[sullen violet]

ahahah, ok, thanks for help

[brisk kraken]

my pleasure 🙂

[storm dawn]

Is 3 seedmakers enough for this layout?

[nocturne basin]

With the growth boost fertilizer, how many days of the growth cycle does it need to be applied? I'm way past level 25 gardening (maybe 50 by now)

[keen willow]

speedGro gives one bonus day for every 2 days with boost/fertilizer. So with crops that have grow time of 4, 5 you only want 2 units per planting, with tomato you want 4 units, and with those that have growth time of 3x you can put it for every day. But remember that rn growth boost is bugged - that 2-day progress is not saved, so in order to get this boost you need to stay on home plot for 2 consecutive garden ticks

[dire bluff]

anyone have a good garden planner for mostly wheat, potato, spicy peppers and tomato? 😄

[nocturne basin]

thanks for that clarification. how about with harvest boost? that tends to be what I use the most

[keen willow]

you need to use 1 unit per day for full boost. E.g. using 4 unit on potato (5 day grow) will leave you with 4/5 chance to get harvest boost. You can stack fertilizer charges.

[nocturne basin]

Interesting, got it. So I'm playing the odds on how many days I stack it up. I need to process a lot of worms....

[zenith summit]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PSpSpTSpSpPSpSp-WPWWTWWPW-SpSpPSpSpTSpSpP-TSpSpPTPTSpSp-WTWWPWWTW-SpSpTPTPSpSpT-PSpSpTSpSpPSpSp-WPWWTWWPW-SpSpPSpSpTSpSpP

[brisk kraken]

I use 4 for the potatoes, but you could get by with 3 since there's only 8 potatoes in the layout. I guess it all depends on how much storage space you have. I have max, which is 10k, so I can hold them if I need to use a seeder for other produce. I did put a 5th one out to make apple seeds since they take forever 🙂

[storm dawn]

Thanks!

[brisk kraken]

You're most welcome. Also, you're welcome to add me ingame and come on by for a visit to see what I've got setup if you like

[dire bluff]

ohhh thank you! 🙂

[valid plank]

easy 60k a day in passive income and easy no stress lay out that only uses seeders [: Dirty rice \o/

and for fert costs, I did that awhile back. (I currently use 20 crafters for rice, 5 for wheat, works well. 5 for other crafters.)

[gleaming stratus]

Hi Jane, why do u use de Apple Jam for GW and not the Apple pie that gives u 3 extra GW?

[sterile cape]

Hey 🙂 For apple pie I have to use 3 apples (and wheat, sweet leaf, spice sprouts, and buy butter) which will give me 18 worms (6 per hour). Using jam I have 3 worms per hour but don't have to bake and buy other ingredients. I am lazy... and have 700 glow worms (the rest I sold), I don't fish that much. I was using apple pie at the beginning (also think it's the best if you need worms quick) but since I have more worms than I need, I switched to jam 😅

[gleaming stratus]

Thks for the answer. I figured I best do de pies so that way i lvl up the cooking also.
BTW I'm currently using your layout so thks!!!
Sth I was wondering, I see that many use all crop to make more seeds or jam. So am I suppose to sell the seeds instead of the crops?

[sterile cape]

I produce pickles from vegetables, from rice, wheat and cotton seeds (from cotton also fabric when I need it). If preserves jars are full, the rest vege put to seeders too. And of course always leave seeds for replanting and vegetables for cooking. I cook cream of tomato soup all the time, it's my focus food, and sashimi/fish stew for fishing . I am happy that my layout is the one you try, even if there are more profitable options ❤️

[gleaming stratus]

How many seedear and preserve jars do you use?

[sterile cape]

15 preserves jars and 8 seeders... if you ever wanna visit me, you are more than welcome 🙂

[gleaming stratus]

What's your in game name so i add u?

[sterile cape]

Jane M. Doe

[languid orbit]

Guys I have a question about farming

I am using this apple farming set up.....but can I harvest the onion and carrot and replant the seeds.....will it still have the effects??

[sterile cape]

Yes, you should replant when they are ready to harvest.

[languid orbit]

It will not lose the effect right??

I am a bit hunter but I am really new to the game....I play a lot so I need to make my farming skill up need money too

[sterile cape]

If you plant the same type of seeds and water them, will work well 🙂 If you do not do this, you will lose a lot of potential money.

[languid orbit]

It's my 4th day and my cooking... hunting.... foraging..and mining skills are lvl 10+....but I kinda need an auto farm for money

I love making houses so I need money for buying stuff....can you help me with an auto farm and tell me the best way to make money from farming??

[sterile cape]

Nice! My hunting is on 14 and gardening on 118 😅😂

[languid orbit]

Wow... maybe help me with an auto farm that makes money

[sterile cape]

Hm... at the beginning I would rather add some cotton/spicy pepper for quality, and add some rice/wheat/corn for harvest boost. But if you want to have 'auto' farm, stay with this layout because you don't really have much work here.

[languid orbit]

I found this setup on yt

Is this an auto farm too???

[sterile cape]

Nope, you would have to watering every day.

[languid orbit]

Aww

[sterile cape]

If you wanna make money, check options for cooking parties, I heard they are profitable. If you just wanna sell your stuff, invest in preserves jars or seeders, they increase value of your crops.

[languid orbit]

It's my 4th day....I don't think anyone would want a newbie in cake party

I am a big time hunter...

But yea...got lucky with 1 apple seed tho

And made 5 more apple seeds with that...

So kinda got a set up for apple farm

This is why I found this on yt....do I need to open the jam maker or something to get max profile from apples???

[sterile cape]

Yeah but... before you reach 25 lvl in gardening not all of your crops will be starred, so profit also will be lower.

Even this one should be more profitable, I think: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-AAAAAAAAA-OTPCPOPTC-AAAAAAAAA-OTPCPOPTC-AAAAAAAAA-OTPCPOPTC-AAAAAAAAA-OTPCPOPTC-AAAAAAAAA

[zenith summit]

Also, there is no true 100% auto farm, no matter what you plant or the fertilizer that you use.

your farm will always need tending in some way

[sterile cape]

I am running this farm #🌱│gardening message if you are interested, and for me is great but still cost a lot of work sometimes. I have to be there once per 2 in-game days. Hunting doesn't seem to be profitable path for me 😅

[languid orbit]

Ahh I see

I see...I guess if someone is truly farming then hunting is not profitable 🤭🤭🤭

[zenith summit]

I hunt, mine, and farm...only farming seems the most profitable so far for me since I use everything else that I mine and hunt for other stuff like building and cooking

[languid orbit]

So I can harvest and replant the seeds and it won't lose the effect right???

[sterile cape]

You got me... I don't like hunting... in general, poor, sweet, furry creatures 🙈

[zenith summit]

right

[languid orbit]

Guess I will try this farm and see

[zenith summit]

the only time you lose the effect is if you plant something different

then the effects change

[languid orbit]

But please tell me what's the best method to sell each crops

[languid orbit]

No no I will harvest the onion and replant onion only

[zenith summit]

make use of the garden planner, play around with what seeds you have the abilty to plant.

that is how I got to the plot I use

[sterile cape]

The best thing in farming is that if you have water retain and weed prevention on 100% you can stay away longer, and hunt meantime if you like it 🙂

[languid orbit]

Like if I should harvest the potato and sell it directly or make something with it

Same goes for the crops

[zenith summit]

preservation is best

it ups the profit and when you have star quality it is even better

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.H-A.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.H-A.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.H-T.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.H-A.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.H-A.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.H-P.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.HA.H-A.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.HA.H-A.HA.HP.HA.HA.HT.HA.HA.HP.H

this is my current farm with just apples, potatoes and tomatoes

I am at farming 26

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-B.HB.HP.HB.HB.HT.HB.HB.HP.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-P.HB.HB.HT.HB.HB.HP.HB.HB.H-B.HB.HT.HP.HT.HP.HBBT.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-T.HB.HB.HP.HT.HP.HT.HB.HB.H-BBP.HB.HB.HT.HB.HB.HP.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-P.HB.HB.HT.HB.HB.HP.HB.HB.H

[sterile cape]

And you can sell weeds for extra cash 😉

[zenith summit]

this will be my next one because I need blueberries for a bit.

[zenith summit]

that is what I do lol

[languid orbit]

@sterile cape can you tell me what's the best way to sell different crops..?

Like it should directly sell them or make something of them before selling

Like I see in lot of videos some say pickling is good and stuff

[zenith summit]

I just answered that but ok

[languid orbit]

I think some people even pickle star crops before selling them

[sterile cape]

I always do something, most vege putting to jars, rest to seeders. It always increases value around 20-30%.

[zenith summit]

yes that is the best way

I did say that in my original answer too

[languid orbit]

So maybe I should focus on lvling up my farming so I can get the jar

Any good crop I can sell directly???

[zenith summit]

it will help a lot if you are looking to make profit from farming

you can sell them all directly, we are jet telling you best ways for best profit.

but tomaotoes or potatoes right now before you can get blueberries or apples

[languid orbit]

Haha I don't think I should open apple farm without the jar

I got lucky and somehow got 1 apple seed

And made 5 more seed from that...

[sterile cape]

But at the beginning you need money for all of this... so sell as it is (but first make new seeds for next replant). And replant as often as possible, eat focus food before harvesting!!! It will give you faster leveling, so also bigger chance for starred crops.

[languid orbit]

I make 7k from hunting

10k if I sell the skin without making them leather....so I want a passive money making farm too

And I mostly eat the steak dinner

But I do wish I had a friend who could cook with me ....I mostly play solo sooo.....I mostly pass my days hunting

[sterile cape]

I am fishing meantime, also can have nice money from this... but when I go to bed, and start game to morning coffee, I have 15-20K from gardening extra 😉 I eat cream of tomato soup all the time or dishes made from fish.

[zenith summit]

Add me in game and I will cook with you or whatever. My boyfriend started playing with me and our friend but they both are playing other games most of the time

game name is this name^

[languid orbit]

My gf started playing too....but she loves fps games more

[zenith summit]

they play a lot of different games so I just watch over dicord stream or play Palia and watch

[languid orbit]

I do play with her at times but I am not a big fan of valo....the community is a bit toxic

But it's oki...I only play valo with her just for some fun 😊😊

[zenith summit]

don't know what game that is but will look it up.

[languid orbit]

You don't know valorant??

[zenith summit]

nope

[forest estuary]

Would love to cook with you sometime if you add me!

[languid orbit]

Sure

[languid orbit]

Added you

[warm sluice]

Hello! I've seen those crop plans and such, do you guys use normal or star seeds for harvest farming?

[sterile cape]

I always use starred seeds, which give higher chance for starred crops (up to 100% on lvl 25+)

[warm sluice]

Ok, thanks!

So do you sell the normal seeds, or is there another use for them

[sterile cape]

I usually sell but you can use them if you plant not starred seeds next to cotton (on sides) or spicy pepper, or use QualityUp fertilizer 🙂

[warm sluice]

Ok! I'll plan to change layout and re-plant everything after the current cycle, so I need to prepare

And another dumb question, please forgive me: the "days of last harvest" which are indicated in the layout planners, are they referring to real days or in game days? Thx 🙏

[paper horizon]

What is the best crop to plant for beginners now to make money but to also not lose it at the same time?

[paper horizon]

I heard tomato wasn’t good anymore?

[coarse totem]

Does anyone have info on what xp you get from harvesting different crops?

[keen willow]

all give 4 exp per day per slot: https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Experience#Gardening

[keen willow]

tomato is still the most profitable raw crop, but after tomato seeds were fixed/nerfed it's not very feasible to make it into seeds. When you get more crafting machine slots, it's better to do potato as your main crop. This is a layout I'd recommend (early on switch potato/tomato): https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP

[keen willow]

in-game (so 30 palia days = 30 irl hours); but remember that crops only grow when you are online (max 1 stage when offline). In order to maximize efficiency it means that you need to login every 2h before day starts (6am in-game, XX:15 irl) to do 2 rounds of gardening in a row.

[warm sluice]

Thank you, will keep in mind!

[gleaming stratus]

Question. Do you sell the seeds or use it exclusive to grow more plants?

[chrome briar]

Hello i was wondering if i can use multiple fertilizers? or only one kind at a a time!

[chrome briar]

i have 3 seed makers and i usually sell bc it can be way too many seeds. i like to keep atleast 30 of each crop all the time

[keen willow]

seeds/preserves are worth more than crops, so it is profitable to convert crops before selling

[keen willow]

only one at a time. if you place a different fertilizer, previous one will go back to your inventory. You can have multiple bonuses, but those additional ones need to come from crops

[silent niche]

o/
~~I just heard speed fertilizer is bugged.
I ran 6 apples so far (+speed fert), with rice, wheat and pepper.
Mostly ran apples for star jam, to get glow wormies.

I only "need" rice, wheat and pepper.
What would be a good alternative to my 6 appletrees for glowies?
Would I change my apples for bluebierries? Would I go apples + blues, or something else?

I would like the diversity of crops low and I dont mind watering and weeding at all.
Thanks for the help.~~

[silent niche]

nvm my question, was a misunderstanding, growth fert is fine!

[sullen violet]

hey guys, i need help about apple trees
do you crop them, then make some seeds for future replant and then everything else to the jammers?
(i know, a bit dumb question, but...)

[modern arch]

Some seeds and then the rest jam and worms

[sullen violet]

glow ones? and worms straight from apples or jam apples first?

[modern arch]

Apples ~ jam- glow

[sullen violet]

what's your gardening lvl?

[modern arch]

26

Wish it was higher but i wasn’t into gardening much

[pine marsh]

I don't really like Apple Jam Glow Worms as a continual pipeline, because the 1h16m in the preserves jar is only adding 1 worm to the glow worm farm output (3 for star apple jam instead of 2 for star apple). I personally like Apple Jam as an easy "rainy day" store of value past the gold cap since I don't have cakes right now. If you want lots of glow worms for fishing, worming Grilled Fish from the 80g-172g fish you're catching with glow worms is really good (3-7 worms each).

[modern arch]

Yeah i mean i don’t mind the time when i have to go in irl it still produces glows worms either way and I’m coming back to collect it so it depends on you. I don’t need more glows worms bc i got tons of them have to sell them for space

Still making profit either through just seeds straight to jam or glows or eating

still getting the profit from afk

[pine marsh]

true, true. If you're logging in more than once a day though and you just want gold, regular Worm Farm is more profitable

[crude swift]

How do I make the Weedblock fertilizer?

[modern arch]

You buy from zeki

You can craft one fertilizer i don’t remember since I’m not using it

[crude swift]

The quality up one
I just figured if you feed them different foods, you get different fertilizer but I guess not lol

[modern arch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/htmlview#

Fertilizer outcome’s

[austere hill]

I looked around but didn't find what I needed. So I'll just ask. I want a pattern (3x3), mostly tomatoes and like 6-8 onions, potatoes, carrots and rice. Does anyone have a similar pattern?

[spark oasis]

I present my cake n dumplin' crop plan - with 100% water retain - with added lazy day option of throw it all into seeds n jam 🙂 https://www.reddit.com/r/Palia/comments/17m1mof/songs_cake_n_dumplin_afk_lazy_garden_plan/

[final jetty]

how much extra value do you really get from crop weaving? The aesthetic part of my brain just wants to arrange everything in rows

[neon jungle]

If you want to do it like that then you should imo. This is just a fun part of the game, you can engage with it how you'd like. I do enjoy spending the 5K per crop cycle I get on my outhouse and industrial carpet habit, though, even if I need to reference a screencap to make sure I'm re-planting stuff in the right place sometimes.

[spare badge]

Can you combine different types of fertilizer?

[zenith summit]

no, only one type at at time on plants. You can mix if you put one type of fert on one type of plant but not two diff ferts on the same plant.

[spare badge]

Ok thanku

[final jetty]

realizing that to saturate my visually appealing farm with equal plant count of the basics I'm going to need the field to be 8 plots wide

[undone sandal]

How does the fertilizer work as far as timing? Do I just use it once while the crop is growing, or do I need to put it down again when it gets consumed?

[spare badge]

You can see the fertilizer "seeds" on the plant, once they are gone, you'll need to add it again

[keen willow]

you need to use 1 unit per day for full boost. E.g. using 4 unit on potato (5 day grow) will leave you with 4/5 chance to get harvest boost. You can stack fertilizer charges.

[undone sandal]

Okay, so I don't have to use it every "day" to get the benefit but any day I miss decreases it by that amount

[final jetty]

What seeds are actually worth grinding myself?

[valid plank]

Just here to drop off the updated Dirty Rice layout, after testing out quite a few other ones ^^ Before using sacrificial weed plots, I was making 60-68k a day with it ^^ will report on the new income soon

[buoyant glacier]

Seems like a cool idea!

[buoyant glacier]

^

[languid orbit]

Does anyone have a auto farm setup for cotton??

[regal lily]

Zero-maintenance plan I came up with. The 6 corn plants can be switched out for cotton, wheat, or rice at any time without issue.

[regal lily]

Here's one.

[languid orbit]

Ohh thanks

[spring estuary]

this is awesome lazy setup! seems like i want to try it too

seems like Replacing rice with corn can give higher income

[valid plank]

So I'm in bed but I have tested corn a simple thing you can do is 48 mins to process+5 hours to grow= 5hr48 min to get a product to sell whereas rice is 3 hours to grow + 42 mins to process to get a product. In the 2 hours you're waiting for corn to grow, a little over 2 more processes of rice in however many seeders you use will process and make up for the sell difference of a corn biproduct.

Rice being quite quick the difference in sell price quickly adds up which isn't something the layout planner calculates for very well

On paper it'll look like more but in reality in 6 hours of game time you will get 2 rice harvests and 1 corn.

Less profit for that game day

Layout also doesn't take in to account that most people aren't playing for 24 hours straight :P

But if you're in to corn go for corn!

[spring estuary]

aahhh i see, so thats the reason you choose rice over corn.

[valid plank]

Corn could be better if you play a lot for sure!

[late hearth]

Hi, what is the best option with apple tree ? sell the apple, jam or the seed ? And with 5 apple tree how many seedmaker / jammaker i need to be produtiv so ? thx for the answer 🙂

[modern arch]

It depends how much you play etc i have 6 and have 4 seeds marker and the rest is jam and worms

[empty wind]

Lazy (all water retain, all but 2 weed prevention), late-game (just 1 cotton), unspecialized (a bit of everything). Both trees have growth boost, one also has harvest boost. One of the peppers also has harvest boost.

[woven pulsar]

Is this correct: The higher your gardening skill level, the more likely you are to get Star Quality crops?

[zenith summit]

yes

25+ is all star crops

[woven pulsar]

Ahh... When you cook and you chose to use star quality crops, does it only use them for the ones that it you don't have regular crops for?

[zenith summit]

you can choose star quality even if you have the regular crop but if you don't have the regular you can choose start quality to still make the recipe

[regal lily]

If you choose star quality, all your ingredients that can be star quality must be star quality. You can't use regular greens or meats with star quality selected.

[unborn delta]

you can use regular meat, sweet leaves, garlic and spices in star recipes. but yes you have to use star quality crops only in star quality recipes.

[keen willow]

You can still use non-starred crops when cooking with other starred crops. When you choose the option to use starred ingredients and you don't have any starred ones for a particular one, non-starred will be used. Just remember that if recipe uses more than one crop and you have only one starred, it will still try to use starred ones and you will fail. Examples:

1. Recipe requires any spice and you don't have any starred - you can use regular.
2. Recipe requires any spice, you have 1 starred spice sprouts and regular garlic - you can't use regular garlic.
3. Recipe requires 3 apples, you have one starred apple and 3 regular - you can't make it

You can put ingredients you don't want to use in the lockbox, they wont be used (or counted for cases above).

[ocean maple]

there is any layer to get the most benefit of apples?

[sharp spire]

My peppers aren't planting in my garden I think it's a bug. I have sent a report but just wondering if this is just me?

[sacred fulcrum]

Can you post a screenshot to show the issue or what you're trying?

[sharp spire]

will do! 🙂

the bottom says can't plant garden not empty?

[untold adder]

It needs 4 spaces like the blueberry bush

[sharp spire]

OH!!! WOW!! Thank you so much! how did you learn that?

I was being 100% genuine with my question I sent a bug report and everything because I thought it was broken 😭 I didn't see anything about planting peppers with 4 empty plots😭

(I was just clarifying my tone (since online is harder to infer tone than IRL sometimes!) I didn't want to come off as sarcastic or anything 💖

[untold adder]

Oh no worries! I honestly don’t know, they may have mentioned it in the patch notes when they added peppers but I truly can’t remember

[sharp spire]

thank you again I am excited to plant them now 🥰

[little imp]

Weird question, but does anyone know why sometimes when you pick a crop the soil needs to be tilled again, and other times it doesn't need re-tilling?

[feral path]

Soil needs to be tilled when it has been over 48 hours IRL

[little imp]

Ohhhhhhh, interesting. Thank you!

[misty pebble]

Oh eww. Punishment for not playing frequently.

[sacred fulcrum]

Glad you got it resolved, I figured this was the case. : )

[boreal edge]

Does anyone know which crop is the most proffitabble to plant?

[blissful axle]

Ah, that makes sense. I was wondering if I was imagining things.

[gleaming stratus]

You have to till it even if frequent playing.

[gleaming stratus]

So, getting star quality cotton is only usefull if you plan to sell it as cotton, right?

[flint bane]

yes

[blissful axle]

Oh, thanks for letting me know that... I've been going the other way with it.

[pseudo whale]

Same

I was still jamming all my apples and blueberries as a habit from OG cake parties. Whoops lol

[untold adder]

but it still makes sense to jam them right? You need 10 apples for 1 seed, but selling 10 star jams would get you more than what 1 seed is worth

or am i overthinking it

[gleaming stratus]

You are correct. 10 Star Apple Jar would be 1440g vs 1050g for 1 seed.

But in the case of Cotton SQ there's no point in turning it to fabric cos you wont get Fabric SQ, so makes more sense to directly sell it.

[compact monolith]

Does putting jam in regular worm bins still give a boost to gold?

[sterile cape]

Yes, jam is still good. You will earn more but... later because it takes time.

[untold adder]

Seems like it’s more worth to turn it into seeds and sell those

I don’t mind the waiting personally

[sterile cape]

I didn't check but I don't think so... it's worth if you need more worms in short time but for gold... it will be fine only in you sell fish which you hook on that worms 😅 Making worms for selling isn't that great option anymore but I may be wrong, so if someone had different opinion, I would love to hear it too 🙂

[bleak nacelle]

anyone have any good profitable garden layouts?

[sterile cape]

What do you need (except money) in your garden? Do you cook? What is your gardening level (higher than 25 or lower) and what kind of seeds you have unlocked?

[bleak nacelle]

my gardening lvl is 26 and currently im just concerned about making money. i have all the seeds unlocked

not worried about cooking rn

[gleaming stratus]

You're absolutely right!

[sterile cape]

Okay 🙂 So my layout will be useless for you, it's not bad, but there are probably a more profitable options. Let me scroll up a bit and check out some other ideas here. Maybe one of them will be good for you 🙂

[sterile cape]

Maybe something like this? #🌱│gardening message

[bleak nacelle]

tysm!!!!!

[sterile cape]

Or this: #🌱│gardening message
Of course if you don't put vegetables into jars and don't make seeds from rice/wheat your income will be 20-30 % lower but still really good. Thanks are due to the authors, I just pasted the links 😅

[bleak nacelle]

i do use jars/seed makers so 👍 one thing ive been wondering tho: are spicy peppers worth more preserved or when turned into seeds?

im too lazy to do the math lmao

[sterile cape]

I counted and it seems that preserved is better option 🙂

[bleak nacelle]

awesome, tysm!

[sterile cape]

In general I was checking this... and all fruits and vegetables are better in jars (gold per hour), except onion if I remember well but difference is really small. And the rest to seeders 🙂

[sterile cape]

I put mine into jars so good to know 😄

I wasn't sure because I checked this long time ago. Anyway, I more often make jars, sometimes seeds, depends where I have space to put it

[winter herald]

Hey!
Should I preserve every crops before selling them instead of selling them raw?

[unborn delta]

you get a better value from them if you do

[winter herald]

Time to build some preserve jars then. ^^

[unborn delta]

yass i have 10 working pretty much non stop xD

[pliant nymph]

trying out this garden layout and wondering how good it is. im lazy and apples take super long so i tried making something that was lazy but more speedy

[zenith summit]

It isn't bad. I have used a similar layout

Right now, I am all potatoes and tomatoes

[sterile cape]

I also had similar at the beginning. Layout isn't bad but could be better... Check this maybe? Similar but if your gardening lvl is lower than 25, you may use more cotton. And if you really want to use fertilizer everywhere, do this smart (using harvest fertilizer around rice and corn has no sense). https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-O.HP.HCo.WC.HT.HCo.WO.HP.HCo.W-R.WP.QO.HCr.WT.QC.HR.WP.QO.H-Co.HP.WCr.WCo.HT.WR.WCo.HP.WCr.W-C.HT.HCo.WO.HP.HCo.WC.HT.HCo.W-Cr.WT.QC.HR.WP.QO.HCr.WT.QC.H-Co.HT.WR.WCo.HP.WCr.WCo.HT.WR.W-O.HP.HCo.WC.HT.HCo.WO.HP.HCo.W-R.WP.QO.HCr.WT.QC.HR.WP.QO.H-Co.HP.WCr.WCo.HT.WR.WCo.HP.WCr.W

[pliant nymph]

that layout looks nice! i dont have weedblock tho. where do i get it?

[zenith summit]

What are the benefits of weed block? Do weeds prevent growth or quantity

[sterile cape]

You can buy it in Zeki's shop, or don't use it and collect weeds... more work but you can sell them too 😂

[pliant nymph]

is there a way to craft it?

[zenith summit]

They need to let us put them in basic worm farms

[pliant nymph]

yeah. or something that gives all the ferilizers. seems good but the gold does add up 😭

[zenith summit]

no, there are only three you can craft. Speedy, and harvest boost via worm farms, and quality boost via basic worm farm and craft bench

At least that I have found so far

[hallow hornet]

I wish peppers were 1 tile instead of 4. Makes using them really hard. Most optimized layout for boosts I have is 0 peppers lol

[lucid furnace]

This is why I don't worry about optimizing a layout .. I just check my supplies and grow what I need.

[sterile cape]

Weeds stop growth and if I am not wrong also stop boosts from crops, so for example if you don't remove them from tomatoes, other plants around will dry next day (this is what I saw myself, but never checked if it's the rule). Sorry for late answer, Discord were dead.

[lucid furnace]

oh that's interesting .. that could explain some things I noticed with my companion planting.

[static girder]

Hi guys ! Does tomato have end ? I dn't know how to say it in english lol.
I mean, when you take a carrot you have to replant it. When do you have to replant a tomato ? If we never need, how can I take off a tomato because I don't whant it here ?

[sterile cape]

They will have end (after 10 in-game days) 🙂 But if you want to remove plant you can right-click on it using hoe.

[static girder]

perfect !! thank you very much !!

[candid radish]

Whats is the best gardening for profit farm out?

[empty belfry]

Ohhh MY DAY HAS COME

[empty belfry]

https://www.ign.com/wikis/palia/Best_Palia_Farm_Layout

with quality up fertilizer, I make 3000-7000 depending on whats harvested that day

[candid radish]

I dont have apples

only blueberries atm

[empty belfry]

thats ok i just use 2 6x6 and 1 3x3

i havent gotten 9x9 yet

[keen willow]

here is a basic layout for profit while keeping it easy to replant. Potato and rice into seeds, tomato and corn into preserves:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP

[plush heath]

but.. potato preserves are good money (or good glow worms)?

tomato preserves are hardly worth the time invested.

[keen willow]

potato seeds are more g per potato, preserves are slightly more g/h. You can process some potatoes into preserves if you have limited machines or login often enough to produce more potatoes than you can convert to seeds. Tomato preserves are same value as potato (tomatoes give twice as many crops as potato, worth half, take half the time to process into preserves)

[compact monolith]

I found this site very helpful and up-to-date with current gold value of items. It really breaks down what seems like every item and action so you can compare profit projections.
https://www.paliatracker.com/gold-profit

[jovial fiber]

is there a way to have optimal plot without apples

[stone fiber]

Is it still somehow profitable a tomato farm?

[sterile cape]

What do you mean by 'optimal'? For me this means that I have a bit of everything there, so apples as well.

[jovial fiber]

I mean, having the best weed-stopping while having harvest boots with a quality boost...optimal. without having apples

[jaunty jewel]

which one is the best to invest?

[hallow hornet]

surprised the daily average gold is so high just for spamming plants lol

[modern agate]

For the first time 3x3 layout... Use Onion Potato Tomato Carrot and Wheat or Rice

[slow flame]

I hear like a glowing sound when I'm in my garden but dont see anything. Anyone know what that might be ?

[gritty mirage]

it could be weeds, or a crop that's actually ready to harvest but you just missed it, I do it a lot.

[exotic adder]

someone has a good layout for having every avaible plant - all watered, weedfree and increased harvest ?

[turbid field]

So i have a weird question regarding fertilizers: i can keep stacking the same fertilizer on the same plot to increase the value, but would i increase yields from the crop by adding a ton of harvest boost fertilizer? Or is there a cap?

[pine marsh]

Stacked fertilizer is just a supply that lasts multiple days. One unit of fertilizer is consumed per day, per tile (so bushes consume 4, trees consume 9)

[turbid field]

ah sweet, thanks for clarifying

[upper mist]

Heya gardening-Palians 😄 how are you doing?

[amber tusk]

Just resetting my garden now have a 3x3 square setup of patches , when I go to plant again what do people reccomend and why @ me with your ideas please

[turbid wagon]

I'm currently transitioning to this layout, based on another I found on this thread. With this I have a little bit of everything, full water retain and no weeds. Original owner explained you could interchange corn, cotton, wheat and rice on the same places without losing bonuses.

Here it is as a link: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-WOPPCSpTOSp-TCTSpOSpSpTSp-POWSpCPSpOT-AAAAAAAAA-RPCrOCOTPT-AAAAAAAAA-TOBPCBCrOP-BTBBOBTCT-BOTBCPPOCo

[turbid wagon]

Sorry, image saved as blank, I meant this

[pine narwhal]

Hi hi. Not sure if this would be the most efficient layout, but I wanted one that only used 8 plots (the 9th is the garden bed at my door for aesthetics ) that was covered 100% by water retain and weed block, and heavy on the potatoes. Don't see many 2x4's so thought I'd share.

[spare cloak]

That's the one i thought up with my bf, it´s thought for 9 plots, but it's a rare position so if you take the apple tree out it's a 2x8 and just lose a little speed bonus in 3 crops. It's 100% water retain and a big harvest boost. It's for late game, so I don't really need cotton but I like to have a bit of everything, just in case. https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-011-011-011_CROPS-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-PRTTBBPBB-PCrWSpSpTSpSpP-CrRTTBBPBB-PCrWSpSpTSpSpP-CrRTTB.HB.HPB.HB.H-PCrWSpSpTSpSpP-CrCOTPTORO-WCoWPTPCRO

using just a bit of harvesting booster per day, and seeders and jars properly, you get an average of 3835g per day

[pine narwhal]

Nice, I had something like that before this one. Just use fertilizer to boost really

[uneven swift]

I'm losing water retain on my apple trees even though I have both tomato/potato next to them, and it's sporadic. Sometimes one or two will need water, sometimes none.
And I lost all fertilizer on my plots after I harvested spicy peppers off of them. Is that normal or am I doing something wrong?

[rotund slate]

I get the water retain bug sometimes but I've never lost fertilizer

[uneven swift]

Two different plants, both lost ~70 fertilizer

Rest of the crops are fine, but they aren't peppers. Not sure if it's a coincidence or not.

[languid orbit]

Can anyone make me an auto farm with chilli corn rice wheat and others

Don't need to have apple, blueberries and cotton

[exotic adder]

are blueberrys good ?

[deft mist]

the one Kitt Katt if you’re in this discord server thank you for the apple seeds and i’m sorry for leaving before saying thank you i owe you my life 🧎💞

[keen willow]

as a raw crop they are second worst, but most profitable crop to process (into seeds) so that balances it. But bb and apples are mostly useful for their growth boost to adjacent crops (or to farm them for cake parties). here is the apple+bb layout i use:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HpAAR.HAAPAA-APT.SACrRABB-PR.HP.HpAAAAAA-T.SRBPCrBAAA-BBBBR.HBBBB-AAABCrPBRT.S-AAAAAAP.HpR.HP-BBARCrAT.SPA-AAPAAR.HAAP.Hp

[jaunty jewel]

should i keep the star ones and just plant them or it does not matter

[keen willow]

star seeds have a base 50% chance of star crops (+2% per gardening level). You should always use star seeds before lv 50

[empty belfry]

I always plant star before regular

[wispy hearth]

Hello, if anyone can get a look at this and catch anything I could place better, I'd really appreciate it. I tried to get the most harvest boost/water retain my brain could come with . Do have in mind that sometimes I only sell 1 or 2 stacks of preserved potatoes because I use them for focus (that's why there's a lot). Anything else, I sell!

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-RPCrCrTPPCrR-RPTPB.QB.QPB.QB.Q-CrRTPTPRPCr-TB.QB.QRB.QB.QPRCr-TRPPCrTTPP-B.QB.QRB.QB.QPRPT-TPPCrPTRTCr-B.QB.QRB.QB.QPRPR-CrTRTPCrCrPT

[keen willow]

moved some crops to do 100% water/harvest: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-RPCrCrTPPCrR-RPTTB.QB.QPB.QB.Q-CrRTPTPCrRCr-TB.QB.QRB.QB.QCrRCr-TRPPCrTTPP-B.QB.QRB.QB.QPRPT-TPPCrPTRTCr-B.QB.QRB.QB.QPRPT-CrTRRPCrCrPT
or you could try something like this (similar crop ratio, less scrambled):
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PRPTCrBPRB-TRPBCrTBRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRB-PRBTCrBBRP-BRPBCrTTRP-PRBTCrTPRP-BRPTCrBPRB-TRPBCrTBRP

[wispy hearth]

I'm gonna check both, thank you so much!!

[atomic steppe]

Do I need to apply harvest boost fertilizer each day or only the day before the plant is fully grown?

[slow flame]

Just unlocked my apple tree today 😌 can't wait to rearrange them for ✨profit✨

[keen willow]

you need to use 1 unit per day for full boost. E.g. using 4 unit on potato (5 day grow) will leave you with 4/5 chance to get harvest boost. You can stack fertilizer charges.

[atomic steppe]

Got it, thank you very much. The wiki was confusing me on this.

[atomic steppe]

Seems like you would need a lot of glow worm farms to keep up harvest boost fertilizer, how many are you using?

[keen willow]

doing full harvest boost is probably not a very good option for most, best to just use fertilizer to cover some single spots that don't get bonuses from plants. But if you do want a fertilizer heavy layout, apple jam is a decent source of fertilizer. You get 16 units per h, so 4 farms should be enough to over full garden.

i only use 5 spots in my layout so i use the easy option of mushrooms from zeki

[atomic steppe]

I found a layout in this channel that someone posted that I am using, lemme find their post again....

#🌱│gardening message

This one, I really liked that I had all the base crops.

[keen willow]

weed block can be bought from zeki, quality boost you can craft. Harvest boost is from sweet food in worm farms, or regular food in glow worm farms. They might be using potato preserves in glow farm, but that is a station that gets unlocked a little later

[atomic steppe]

I was going to use crab pot pie in the farm as it seems to give a lot.

I only have 1 glow and 2 regular worm farms at the moment though.

[keen willow]

if you want something similar without harvest boost fertilizer, you can try something like this:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.WR.WCo.HpT.WCr.WCo.HpP.WR.WCo.Hp-O.HpRP.WC.HpCrT.WO.HpRP.W-Co.WR.HpO.HpCo.WCr.HpC.HpCo.WR.HpO.Hp-T.WCr.WCo.HpP.WR.WCo.HpT.WCr.WCo.Hp-C.HpRT.WO.HpCrP.WC.HpRT.W-Co.WCr.HpC.HpCo.WR.HpO.HpCo.WCr.HpC.Hp-P.WR.WCo.HpT.WCr.WCo.HpP.WR.WCo.Hp-O.HpRP.WC.HpCrT.WO.HpRP.W-Co.WR.HpO.HpCo.WCr.HpC.HpCo.WR.HpO.Hp
personally i'd skip weed fertilizer, unless you want to afk this layout. And if your gardening level is decently high and you don't need fabric for furniture anymore, i'd skip cotton

or you can do some cake parties and use cake, that gives a lot of fertilizer as well

[atomic steppe]

I am currently level 7 on gardening.

[keen willow]

star seeds give 50% chance for star crops, 2% more from gardening level, so you already have 64% chance. Might not be worth using cotton for that extra 36% if you could just place more crops in it's spot. But if you still need cotton to complete furniture collection it's probably better to plant it now, then at lv 25+ when it will be completely useless

[atomic steppe]

That's good to know, my furniture making is only level 4 so I am missing most items still.

[empty belfry]

If you are able to yes

[spare badge]

Why does fertilizer stay longer on some of the crops but not on others? o:

[keen willow]

fertilizer is always 1 unit per day per slot, but it won't get consumed if you already have a bonus from a crop (or if the plant did not grow as a result of weeds or missing water)

[left vigil]

how does growth boost from crops work?

[keen willow]

growth boost gives an additional day of growth every 2nd day. However this data is not saved, and resets every time you relog (likely a bug). Additionally there is a bug for crops with growth boost and harvest boost – growth boosted crops only get harvest boost once when extra growth triggers. So a growth boosted potato growing next to some rice will end up having 4/5 chance to get harvest boost.

[storm dawn]

How many preserve barrels do u assign for Apples?

I had 12, but it seems that it's too much and my apples can't keep up

[sterile cape]

It depends how many apples do you have and how fast you wanna use/sell jam. I have one apple tree and 2 barrels are enough to make jam from it.

[storm dawn]

Got it, so 2 barrels per tree, thanks!

[dusty kayak]

@cursive venture if you want to minmax a bit and don't want to do cake parties, you can turn apples to jam and put the jam in worm farms and sell the worms and fertilizer the worm farms produce
That's what I do and make at least 40k a day (most of the time more just depends how much I upkeep the garden in the day)

[cursive venture]

Glow worm farm or regular?

[dusty kayak]

Regular worm farm is more money from the output

[cursive venture]

I see, thank you!!

[hallow hornet]

oof did not know this

[stone fiber]

Im lvl 9 on gardening, cant use apple or blueberrys yet can someone send me a 9x9 plot for profit or leveling whatever you think its more importante

[finite basin]

i’ve just reached lvl 10 in gardening and i want to have apples an blueberries but i can’t find the seeds. is it really the only way to but them from badruu for medals?

[dusty kayak]

you can get them from befriending certain villagers ||zeki or naio||
once you get one you can use seed maker to make the rest

[keen willow]

there is a small chance to get them from lucky box, but you can also get them from quests: || lv 3 relationship quest for nai'o and zeki for apples, bardruu for bb||

[finite basin]

thank you!

[glossy ingot]

hi all! looking for an optimal 9x9 plot that uses all crops and requires little watering. has anyone created one?
(i don't have any spicy peppers atm so I'd be okay if that one is left out)

[dusty kayak]

ALL crops
phew
I wouldn't even dare lol

[glossy ingot]

I'm desperate to get more of everything lol

I keep seeing layouts with only 1 cotton or 1 rice and I need more of those but also just want everything else too

[pliant nymph]

Probably possibly. The layout prob needs to be really weird cause I don't think 100% anything would be possible with all crops

Made smth with all crops but didn't realize that the export feature doesn't rly work on mobile... Rip

[frail escarp]

Oof, sorry about that

[glossy ingot]

I'm really looking for water retention and weed prevention! The two things I am the worst with haha

[frail escarp]

Tried tackling that issue today and got hit by brick walls

[pliant nymph]

I may try to recreate what I managed to make on my laptop later today

[sterile cape]

You can check mine, maybe will inspire you somehow, I posted it here: #🌱│gardening message (with 2 spicy pepper bushes and rather over 25 gardening lvl) and here is my old one: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-TOCPBBCoBB-PTRRWCoCoTP-WPTBBPBBCo-CTWOPCoCTR-AAAAAAAAA-RTOCoPCWTO-CoBBPBBTPW-PTCoCoWRRTP-BBCoBBPCOT (before 25 lvl, but you can switch some cotton/rice/wheat to corn). Both water retain but not weed proof.

[tough pewter]

Sent you a message.

[obsidian cairn]

So....I hate to have to use star-quality everything in a recipe.
Therefore I've been trying to grow mediocre tomatoes, onions, and so on.
I use normal seeds, don't fertilize, I don't interplant (no positive influences!), I try everything and STILL get 95% star-quality produce!
What am I doing wrong? 😆
(yes, my gardening level is up in the 20s somewhere, dangit)

[tough pewter]

You’re probably past the point of normal quality harvesting with your level.

Once you get past 25 it’s almost always star quality.

[obsidian cairn]

Yup. Hm. Guess I'll have to buy. 😬

[keen willow]

You can still use non-starred crops when cooking with other starred crops. When you choose the option to use starred ingredients and you don't have any starred ones for a particular one, non-starred will be used. Just remember that if recipe uses more than one crop and you have only one starred, it will still try to use starred ones and you will fail. Examples:

1. Recipe requires any spice and you don't have any starred - you can use regular.
2. Recipe requires any spice, you have 1 starred spice sprouts and regular garlic - you can't use regular garlic.
3. Recipe requires 3 apples, you have one starred apple and 3 regular - you can't make it

You can put ingredients you don't want to use in the lockbox, they wont be used (or counted for cases above).

[obsidian cairn]

That is both awkward and inordinately complicated. You stated it all succinctly yet I still had to read it three times for comprehension! 🤯
Thanks for the write-up, though!

[dusty kayak]

If you ever need regular qualit you can request some

[slate cedar]

Hi all! Just to be clear... From my understanding its better to turn starred items into seeds and sell these seeds right? and with the non-starred items? keep some for cooking and sell the rest? or preserved? this is where im confused D:

[dusty kayak]

Tomatoes i pickle
Potatoes get seeded

Pickle corn

[slate cedar]

Even regular ones?

Oh

[dusty kayak]

I dont...have regular lol

[slate cedar]

Ahhh life problems lmao haha

Soon I wont have regulars too haha

[dusty kayak]

Mfw gardening level in the 50s xD

[slate cedar]

this game is addicting lmao I get that

[dusty kayak]

Once i started having 5 apple trees i started leveling 2 to 3 times a day

Yeah im def in the game way more then i should be lollll

[slate cedar]

I feel that haha

I'Ve been only playing for a week im lvl 61

[plush kraken]

do the tomato plants ever die? i messed up my gardening placement and i'm kinda waiting on them to disappear lol

[slate cedar]

i think you can harvest them like 3 or 4 times before they die

[dusty kayak]

You can also just destroy them by holding right click with the tilling tool

[slate cedar]

OH god

ty for that

[dusty kayak]

It came in an update several updates ago it's been handy haha

[plush kraken]

i'm blown away lol

[raven birch]

hey friends, anybody have any layouts with all crops ?

[sterile cape]

I am using this one: #🌱│gardening message

[raven birch]

Thank you!

[sterile cape]

If you need something what will fit your needs more, we can think what to change 😊

[raven birch]

I appreciate that! I'm not super picky and gardening confuses me lol. I just know I want a lil bit of everything so this seems good for me lol. Ill try it out for a bit

[sterile cape]

I am using this layout for over a month, still happy with it, gardening lvl 138... going up pretty fast 😅

[zenith kernel]

gardening level HOW MUCH

i didn't even know that it raised up this much

https://tenor.com/view/dog-staring-stare-looking-staring-gif-24010129

[raw fjord]

aaaand im done

[valid plank]

Ha. Love that for you

[slow flame]

Wait what's the level limit for all of the skills

I thought it ended with level 10 lmao

[gentle stirrup]

There is no limit

[undone sandal]

How so weeds affect 2x2 and 3x3 crops? Does a single weed stop the growth fully, or does it slow it by some percentage?

[valid plank]

A weed on a crop will stop it's growth.

[undone sandal]

I know it stops a single tile crop, but does it fully stop a 2x2 or 3x3 crop? Sometimes they get multiple weeds.

[rotund slate]

Now I'm curious too

[pliant nymph]

I think it does stop it, yeah. Idk how it works tho or why we can't pull all the weeds if it gets multiple

[sterile cape]

The rule is the same, you need to add boost to at least 'one side' of plant, so max you can have 4 boosts from other crops. If you want to boost bushes 2x2 (you still have 4 sides but 8 tiles on sides) you have to add at least 2 crops with the same boost, for exampe it can be an onion and carrot, and they don't have to be next to each other but both have to be next to bush. For apple tree you need to use at least 3 crops with the same boost to make it work @undone sandal @rotund slate @pliant nymph

[hallow breach]

Depends on what you need from them. If it's gold - tomato and pepper are best to seed and corn is best to pickle. If it's focus - pickled potato are the way to go. Blueberries and Apples always get jammed unless I'm running out of seeds and need to replenish my supply. Other crops I plant and seed as needed to attend cooking parties.

[slate cedar]

thank you ❤️ your timing is awesome lol!

[hallow breach]

My pleasure!

[dusty kayak]

Ive seen cooking levels over 500

[undone sandal]

Thank you, but my question wasn't about adjacent buffs. I asked about weeds and whether or not a single weed disables growth on 2x2 and 3x3 crops.

[keen willow]

yes, one weed will block whole apple

[sterile cape]

I am sorry... my English isn't well and I shouldn't respond before morning coffee 🙈 Yeah... agree with gazar. Like I said it can have weed prevention or not, if not, weed can always affect on growth. I didn't have weed prevention on all my bushes and changed this, especially that sometimes I just couldn't see weeds under blueberries or the tree, and I truly hate when bushes are not exactly in the same growth time (when one is small and others are big, it makes me crazy) 😅

[sterile cape]

At 50 lvl you will get ||gold trophy|| and later it's just a number 😉

[zenith kernel]

these people been living in palia already 😭 lv 500? this is reth!

I can't even manage to reach lv10 cooking

[dusty kayak]

its the cake parties lol

[zenith kernel]

[keen willow]

with cake parties you get like 5-6lv/h in cooking (even more if you have good team). I think i saw someone post a screen of level 1000+ cooking (and that was a long time ago, before cake nerf)

[sterile cape]

I don't really like cooking, I cook when I need focus food or fishing boosts, but sometimes I buy food at the Inn. I support local business 😂 And I've never been to a cake party.

[digital breach]

How do I get apple seeds? I accidently sold the one that Nai'o gave me

[keen willow]

you can also get some from || zeki's lv 3 relationship quest || other that that, low chance from lucky box or buy from gardening guild store for tokens (expensive)

[digital breach]

Thank you!! I think that's th quest im working on right now so I might've lucked out

[thorn otter]

https://tenor.com/view/imaginarychicken-peekaboo-chicken-funny-hello-gif-26042434

reviving this because I couldn't find the answer and I have the same question

[dusty kayak]

i think it depends on your play style tbh but starred items in cooking do help a bit if you want good food 🤔 the worth of food is based on it's ingredients

[thorn otter]

I have also seen I can get starred foods without starred items tho and also that using all starred ingredients doesnt guarantee me a starred meal so im unsure if its worth the ingredients

[dusty kayak]

tomatoes are better preserved for money imo but someone might say otherwise
potatoes are better seeded
corn is better preserved bleh bleh

[thorn otter]

thank you!

[dusty kayak]

it's RNG based on ingredients AND your level so if you're a high level you don't need to necessarily rely on it

[unborn delta]

Finally got this after I first got the well. I'm level 108 in gardening

[dusty kayak]

Thanks for a rough estimate of how long thats gonna take me lmao

[unborn delta]

you are welcome, ive been playing since the 10th of august too, and done the weeklies every week exept for the first where i was still under level 10

oh yeah I also got the plaque

[dusty kayak]

Yeah im level 53 or 54 something like that got the well in the 30s i think

[unborn delta]

ah yeah makes sense, the well is so useful

got my garden inside in a cortyard layout so its nice to have closer than the little water pond

[dusty kayak]

Yeah my garden is in the back haha

We should see each others houses sometime

[livid pier]

Oh so the Well is an actual water source? Thats awesome ! WIll be able to buy it next week finally :3
Do you know if you can buy more then one tho or is it a one time purchase?

[limber burrow]

i bought two bug plaques so i would think if u have the medals u can buy as many as u want

[forest estuary]

About to try the tactic of letting weeds try to spawn on a single farm lot and just hide that on my property so I can just never have to weed my tomatoes and potatoes

[wind kite]

hows that tactic going..

if it works, im also trying it

[unborn delta]

you can get more than one

[tough harbor]

not sure where it went wrong, insert crocodile tears here....so, I managed to get 4 x 4⭐ spicy pepper seeds produced in my hopper....went to take them out and put them in storage...and poof into thin air they went....plenty of room in both locked and general storage, they didn't land in either? Is there a glitch? or can they not be put into storage? thankyou in advance to the green thumb that replies

[valid plank]

Hi! I did this. Its bugged. It will eventually cause your unweeded plots to only grow when you're on plot. I wrote a report. Im hoping they fix it :)

Its like it eventually reverts your garden to a few patches ago where you didnt get growth off plot lol. Its very weird.

For a few days it worked fine, then @shell iron witnessed the weirdness start, my plot was reverse growing and crap.

[forest estuary]

Aw shoot good to know thank you!

[forest estuary]

Do you have any machines right next to the seed maker? Sometimes it's bugged I think and they will go into nearby ones

[civic relic]

Can anyone help me with an apple, blueberry, corn, pepper and potato layout. Thanks

[hollow moss]

did you manage to find a good one? i can help you when i'm free later if needed 😊✨

[tough harbor]

My hopper that produced the seeds is besides my worm maker, but the seeds didn't land in there either 😢

[marble junco]

Okay green thumbs! What do you think is the current best farm layout for making money? Doesn't matter about what buffs or what crops. Preserves or seeds. What brings in the most 🪙 overall and long term?

[dusty kayak]

guess you could compare outputs now that there is an estimate on the planner

ill put mine in and see what it says lol

I also seed potatoes, pickle tomatoes and corn, jam the apples then put the jam in worm farms

so if the estimate is 480 apples
then the total would be 46,080 for the apples

as jam 480 apple jam would be 69,120

as worm farm out put from jam it would be 76,800

each potato makes 4 seeds 🤔 so 204 potatoes turned to seeds = 816 which outputs 24,480 gold

384 pickled tomatoes would be 19,584 gold

sooo my total profit is 120,864 after all that
and if i consistantly rotate crops I make minimum 35 to 40 k a day
usually 20k more or less when i wake up ad 20k more or less when i get ready for bed

[zenith summit]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-B.HpB.HpC.HpB.HpB.HpO.HpB.HpB.HpC.Hp-A.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.Hp-C.HpB.HpB.HpO.HpB.HpB.HpC.HpB.HpB.Hp-B.HpB.HpO.HpC.HpO.HpC.HpB.HpB.HpO.Hp-A.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.Hp-O.HpB.HpB.HpC.HpO.HpC.HpO.HpB.HpB.Hp-B.HpB.HpC.HpB.HpB.HpO.HpB.HpB.HpC.Hp-A.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.HpA.Hp-C.HpB.HpB.HpO.HpB.HpB.HpC.HpB.HpB.Hp

This is going to be my next load out. How expensive are the hydro ferts from Zeki?

I have been using potatoes and tomatoes to keep my farm watered but the weeds are constant.

[civic relic]

I couldn't find a layout if you can help me I'll be happy

[marble junco]

Your numbers are sounding great so far

[keen willow]

this one is the best one (assuming reasonable amount of fertilizer) i found so far:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HpAAR.HAAPAA-APT.SACrRABB-PR.HP.HpAAAAAA-T.SRBPCrBAAA-BBBBR.HBBBB-AAABCrPBRT.S-AAAAAAP.HpR.HP-BBARCrAT.SPA-AAPAAR.HAAP.Hp
bb, potato, rice into seeds, apple, tomato, corn into preserves
but best is dependent on how many times you tend to garden per day (this one caps around 14 or so). And you need to account for growth boost bugs if you want to run any layout that depends on it.

[keen willow]

2g per unit

[keen willow]

you forgot to include replant costs

[dusty kayak]

i wasnt sure how that estimate would go, if it meant you buying the seeds or making the seeds, or if the difference doesnt matter

[keen willow]

that checkbox is for including crop cost of crafting seeds

[dusty kayak]

[zenith summit]

Thank you

[forest estuary]

I might be getting it to work actually! We shall see 😂

[valid plank]

Itll work for a few days :D

[forest estuary]

Oh boo, cause I'm trying letting them grow on a throwaway plot of carrots 😂

[valid plank]

Maybe using a second plot is the secret! Youll have to let me know in a few in game days. I think it worked for me for like 3 rl days before it broke

[valid plank]

Youd be good data since youre experimenting!

[forest estuary]

Oh sorry I mean the soil is all on my default plot, but it's a patch of soil I have separate and put all carrots on

[valid plank]

Ah yeah I did that same. I surrounded it with bookshelves so visitors didnt weed it thinking they were doing me favors lmao

[forest estuary]

Smart! I was planning to hide it behind my house

[keen willow]

depends what you want to cook

[winged tusk]

quality seeds only get when harvested?

[exotic adder]

i also have 1 plot dedicated to weeds , but didn noticed any problems for the rest

[last crow]

What is this UI? Is this base game?

[austere flax]

You can get quality seeds by crafting Quality Vegetable / Fruit to the Seed Collector, though you're also correct that you can get it by harvesting

[winged tusk]

And quality seeds must give quality crops is that right?

[austere flax]

Correct! Oh yeah to addition from my previous statement, sometimes the seeds you gain by Seed Collector is like.. idk.. 10% chance of non-star quality seeds? But still you'll get the starred one overall

[forest estuary]

Good to know it can work!

[molten meadow]

ALL crops layout (including corn and pepper) with 100% water retention + 100% weed prevention + 67% harvest boost (no fertilizer required)
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-COBPTBCOT-BPTBCCrPOW-COCoWTPTOC-TCrWPOCWCrP-AAAAAAAAA-PCrRCOPRCrT-COTPTRCoOC-ROPWCSpTPSp-TOCSpTPSpOC

[frail escarp]

Woah.. all crops and 100% water retain & weed prevention

damn...

[dusty kayak]

Garden planner fanmade website

[keen willow]

star seeds have a 50% chance of star crops, 2% more per gardening level. Early (before lv 25) you can also use quality boost from cotton or quality fertilizer to increase this chance

[winged tusk]

this is good! thank you

Thinking if cotton too less, or can I buy it from vendor?

[molten meadow]

Thanks! If you feel like there's not enough cotton you can replace some of the rice, wheat or corn with cotton to bump up the numbers. Harvest boost will drop a little though

[winged tusk]

OK🫡

Too bad I can't get apple seeds this week

I'll put middle all cotton then

[keen willow]

just fyi - you can get apple seeds from quests: || lv 3 relationship quest for zeki and nai'o||, it's a better option than buying them for tokens

[fickle kettle]

Is it possible to destroy a crop?

[zenith summit]

yes, right mouse button, hold down over crop

[dusty kayak]

when holding tilling tool

[marble junco]

Do you have a link on garden planner for this?

[fickle kettle]

I’m not sure I’m doing this right. Nothing is happening

[misty dune]

Equip the hoe, then press and hold right click over the crop. It should give a blue bar like when mining or chopping trees!

[dusty kayak]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PTCrAAAAAA-PTATPACrCrA-AATAAPAACr-AAAPCrPTCrT-AAAAAAAAA-CrPTCrTPAAA-CrAAPAATAA-APTACrCrAPT-AAAAAACrPT

[marble junco]

The end numbers are different than what's in your first pic though?

[frail escarp]

Ah! The price approximation atm works on a per-user basis (visualised on the coloured tags under the price). Here they have their settings set to above level 25, and with replant costs disabled

[dusty kayak]

#🌱│gardening message

[dusty kayak]

that too

[marble junco]

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-10358303

[fickle kettle]

Got it!!?

[winged tusk]

Thanks! I never thought this way. I were planning to get it by request 10 apple.

[rough compass]

hey all! love seeing all the people here, still fairly new to Palia but gardening is my obsession since SDV, here is my plot, let me know what y'all think? https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-BBCoBBCrRCoT-CoCoCoRCrWCoCoCo-CrSpSpCoSpSpPCoCr-CrCoCRCoOCrCoC-AAAAAAAAA-CrCoWWCoCoCrCoT-RCoTBBCoBBCr-PTPCoCoCoWCrW-TCoCrCoSpSpCrSpSp

[twin bloom]

What’s the best to pickle?

[rough compass]

i've seen some calculations, haven't finished mine yet, but they pickle at different speeds so it's a throughput issue which they say results in about the same return honestly

[wintry vale]

Thank you for this! I was looking for this kind of set-up. I know it's not the most money-making, but I like having some of everything just for cooking, gifts, etc.

[heady jungle]

I’m having a bit of a brain fart at work. When spicy pepper seeds say 6 days to grow for first harvest does that include the seed day? home so no worries xD

[outer ruin]

Why does my crops not grow overnight when I have 100% weed prevention and water retain

Is there a limit to crop cycles or mine is just bugged ?

Do I have to be online

[craggy spindle]

now that I have 2-3 blueberries/apples seeds, I should go full seeds machines ?

[dusty kayak]

!crops

[compact coral]

Badruu

Why aren't my crops growing?

Crops can only grow up to 1 stage per Palian Day as long as your online. Keep that in mind!

[astral bane]

any advice on a farm plot for best pure xp/hour?

gold income and spending is irrelevant

[valid plank]

You didn't read anything I said

[astral bane]

i did

but onlyjam is max profit focus

[valid plank]

Omg. Lol.

You really didnt

I said it's great xp and the income is inaccurate

But good luck finding your layout lol

[astral bane]

I'm asking for a friend who's pre-apples i guess

and yeah, OnlyJams is not made for max xp/hour in mind

thanks for the help anyway

also OnlyJams is made for post-lvl 25

[dusty kayak]

I have 5 apple trees boosted with yield and water retain and level gardening 2 to 3 times a day im in the 50s

You get exp per crop
So tomatoes, apples, blueberries
They come off multiple at a time which is more exp then 1 time crops

So boosting yield on crops that come off in bunches is effective

[astral bane]

do you know if quality has a factor in xp ?

[dusty kayak]

That is a good question. There isn't much math or data on exact amounts of exp gain (same with friendship/romance gain) so that stuff can be hard to figure out

Perhaps someone knows though 🤔

[sterile cape]

Or maybe carrots, tomatoes and rice? Carrots and rice need only 3 days to grow 🤔 If you mix them smart with onion and wheat you will have even more crops because of harvest boost.

[astral bane]

just found out that yield and quality doesn't matter in terms of exp

only the type of crop

[dusty kayak]

I thought for sure exp was per crop 🤔 i can be wrong though, happens

Guess apples just give a ton of exp in their own right

Everytime i pluck a tree my focus goes kerplunk ha

[valid plank]

Pretty sure it's per crop. Can I have your source that it's not per crop?

[astral bane]

yea but don't forget the farming time, and the number of slots

[dusty kayak]

Yeah im prettttyyyy sure it's per crop

[astral bane]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palia/comments/169sxs1/skill_xp_gains_for_farming_mining_and_wood/

he specifically said:
harvesting a potato yielding 2 normal potatoes give the same amount of XP as a plant yielding 3 *quality ones.

[valid plank]

He also says in his own comment section he has rounding errors.

[dusty kayak]

[valid plank]

Was about to link the same thing

Reddit isn't typically a valuable source. People running Onlyjams tree layout def leveled gardening faster than me running dirty rice. In the same timeframe.

[sterile cape]

I never thought about XP/hour... I have now 144 lvl, so it increases around 1-2 lvl per day, depends how much I play.

[dusty kayak]

mood

[brazen robin]

Geez, you have me beat. I'm only 70

[valid plank]

I'm around that too.

Trees are powerful

[brazen robin]

They are. I have a 1 of everything plot. Been debating on changing it since I only ever cook dumplings, pot pie, or cake

[sterile cape]

I like having everything 😁 And I cook only tomato soup if I don't have to cook anything else for quest or for decoration.

[valid plank]

\o/ dirty rice

[west pendant]

I finally cleared my garden after harvesting the last veggie! I'm thinking of this garden layout, but would like your honest opinions before officially planting. I don't mind weeding, as the sound is hilarious, and I would only have to water the center of my garden

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-WPTPCoPTPR-PWPBBCrBBW-TPWPCoPRPT-PCrWWBBPBB-AAAAAAAAA-BBPBBWWCrP-TPRPCoPWPT-WBBCrBBPWP-RPTPCoPTPW

I've been all about Potato and Tomato farming, and now that I have multiple Apple seeds, this would make for a good Apple/Blueberry Pie and Jam set up!

[keen willow]

base exp is always 4 exp per day per square, only boost is getting high growth boost coverage (and using crops that get high growth boost efficiency, so growth time of 3x)

hare is a sample layout for that (also for profit): https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HpAAR.HAAPAA-APT.SACrRABB-PR.HP.HpAAAAAA-T.SRBPCrBAAA-BBBBR.HBBBB-AAABCrPBRT.S-AAAAAAP.HpR.HP-BBARCrAT.SPA-AAPAAR.HAAP.Hp

[craggy spindle]

Do you have any good layout when you just started to get apple/BB seeds ?

[drowsy iris]

I used to be all about tomato/potato farms with an apple and blueberry, but lately it seems like the tomato seeds just don't make enough money to do that anymore.What's the easiest/simplest farm that is ok moneywise anymore?I don't mind watering and weeding.

[keen willow]

here is a basic layout for profit while keeping it easy to replant (100% harvest boost and water retain). Potato and rice into seeds, tomato and corn into preserves:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP-PRPTCrTPRP
you can replace tomato with more potato if you don't cap your machines

[drowsy iris]

Cool, I was sort of doing this already minus the corn on most of my plot(I do have an apple tree and blueberry bush) Thanks!

[static panther]

I currently have this setup but instead of corn i have wheat, I use potato for Preserve jars (6 currently running), rice+wheat on Worm Farm and Tomato on seeds. I feel my method is inefficient since i keep getting a lot more of tomatoes than i know what to do with and sell them raw and sell tomato seeds as well

but I mainly have so many perserve jars for potato is because i hate cooking and I just use them to eat for focus haha

but yea i feel I am being so inefficient with gardening

gardening turned out to be way more fun than I anticipated ngl

[sharp spire]

BLUEBERRY SEEDS

[woven tundra]

If I use high quality fertilizer on a crop on day 1, and it disappears on day 2, does it still take effect? Or do you just use them the day before they produce? If you use it every day does the effect stack?

[hazy bridge]

Every day with teh high quality fertilizer (or companion plant boost) improves the chance of gettign a high quality crop. FYI At level 25 gardening you are gaurunteed that all crops will be high qulaity.

[static panther]

my god that lv25 perk is insane

how do you check those perks? I am interested in checking perks for the other skills

[frail escarp]

It's less a perk and more of how the RNG is calculated! Which I think is different per skill

Players estimated that you get 2% extra chance to get a quality crop per level. Pair that with the base chance of a star seed and at level 25 it goes to about 100% (approximately). Could also be 99% but it's a good approximate

At level 50, even normal seeds have ~100% chance of producing star crops. Though you might struggle getting normal crops from then on I think

[forest estuary]

Waited for a while but couldn't get more than 5 weeks to spawn on my singular farm plot, was hoping for free weed block in a sense. A defeat for now, would be a huge advantage if it worked anyways I feel

[rough compass]

i'm still pretty low level but i'm using this layout and getting at least 99% star crops https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-BBCoBBCrRCoT-CoCoCoRCrWCoCoCo-CoSpSpCrSpSpPCoCr-CrCoCRCoOCrCoC-AAAAAAAAA-CrCoRWCoCrCrCoR-RCoTBBCoBBCr-PTPCoCoCoWCrW-TCoCrCoSpSpCrSpSp

but i do try to use only star seeds

[static panther]

oh that is awesome to know, thank you for the generous answer

[midnight shore]

I don't have enough coins to buy an apple seed yet so I only have blueberries. Does anyone have a layout for blueberries only / mostly?

[storm dawn]

Geezus, whoever made this made me feel dirty lol

Why is post-25 specifically mentioned though?

Is there anything specific at post-25?

[valid plank]

I made it besty. And it's just income referral. Star crops much more likely post 25.

That's also not accurate anymore the weed plot causes bugs

Not a good layout for people who don't want to babysit a lot of crafters. I use 20 for rice seeds and five for wheat seeds. And a 24-hour period I make about 60k more if I play a lot longer than usual

[storm dawn]

Oh really? Damn... i hate weeds, so i was planning to use that layout

[valid plank]

There's somebody else testing to see if it breaks for them and if we can find the cause for reports so it may or may not get fixed in the future

It caused my plot to revert to a previous patch and only grew when I was on plot at 6:00 a.m. lol

[storm dawn]

Was originally using an Apple/Blueberry into Jam into Worm/Fertilizer farm, but managing it and having to log in every hour so that the Apples can keep up with the number of Preservation Jars was getting tiring, so was looking for a much lazier but also profitable layout
(Also was getting annoyed that if i miss a single weed, the crops desync, and i have to wait an ingame day to sync them up again)

[valid plank]

I made the rice and wheat layout with my boyfriend schedule in mine because he works 12 hours every day and sometimes 6 days a week. The harvest only being three and four days is pretty good for somebody who isn't as active

Ignore typos. I'm using speech to text cuz I'm cooking dinner lol

[storm dawn]

Man, wish i knew about this layout earlier... i spent so much on buying all the crafting licenses... now it feels completely wasted

[valid plank]

I mean mine uses 24 licenses lol

25

[storm dawn]

??? What are u using the licenses on? Preserving the rice and wheat?

[valid plank]

I mean it can be used without that many but it's not going to be as profitable as fast

You can't preserve rice and wheat. I seed them

[valid plank]

This lol

[storm dawn]

So you turn the crops into seeds to sell?

[valid plank]

Correct

[storm dawn]

Ahhhh...

Welp... time to craft a ton of seeders lol

Or maybe not since i intend to log in less, i probably won't need them

[dusty kayak]

well actually its good to load them up if youre online less

those suckers go when youre offline

[storm dawn]

yeah, but if i'm offline more, the crops grow slower, and there won't be alot to load

meaning i won't need alot of seeders

[dusty kayak]

i make 20k or so when i wake up and 20k or so when i go to bed with my preserve jars

[storm dawn]

Was making this myself, could be more if shipping bin had more space
But it was getting annoying having to log in every hour

[dusty kayak]

sometimes i just take it all to zekis when im too lazy for shipping bin

[storm dawn]

i think i don't even leave the farm anymore on weekdays since i just log in to advance the crops

So i just dump whatever into the bin and log out

[dusty kayak]

I legit just sit in my garden and idle there

the idling life

[storm dawn]

I'm still 400 renown short of unlocking all the housing space