Camera Advice

[random prism]

i need to finish this roll of fuji 200

[glad juniper]

well the good news is falls starting

so you'll have plenty of colors to shoot lol

[random prism]

i still have 23 exposures left

and a whole roll of gold 200

[glad juniper]

i've got a ton of backstock to shoot lol

[random prism]

lol

maybe ill try double exposures with fall leaves and something

pumpkins idk

[glad juniper]

shoot a halloween party or something

[random prism]

idk

sure

if i can find one that will invite me

[scarlet creek]

That's the 75-100

[glad juniper]

Yes but you said you was also looking at the 100-300

[scarlet creek]

Sorry mb

[glad juniper]

Aha peak aperture

[random prism]

I'll give you 20$ and a taco bell crunch wrap

[glad juniper]

Do you have that F to shoot it on yet

[random prism]

no

they made me stay late at work for breeze charter

[glad juniper]

shame

[pastel sentinel]

yo @glad juniper my man

i need some help

i need a 150 -600 mm for my nikon D750

[pastel sentinel]

im thinking 2. hand and price (1000$)(MAX)

[random prism]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1224717261898454?ref=saved&referral_code=null

thoughts on the 100-400?

1500$

also theres 2x extenders

are those worth it?

[glad juniper]

Depends on the generation

[random prism]

2

Or

II

Sorry

[slim plaza]

Best budget camera? I have a canon 400d not 4000d but paired with it I have the canon 75-300mm I'm looking for smth in the 300-500 range if could thanks

[random prism]

sigma 100-600

[teal basalt]

Hey maus why do you hate the G1 Tamron 150-600 so much? Samples look great

[glad juniper]

The g1 is horribly soft, the contrast sucks, the af is slow etc etc

[teal basalt]

Fair enough

[random prism]

@glad juniper if you actually want the 550D lmk

[glad juniper]

yeah i gotta talk with my sister first but i'll lyk whats going on

[random prism]

kk

[glad juniper]

does the 75-300 have is

[random prism]

i uhh

no

its the 75-300mm II

[glad juniper]

i see

very very interesting

[random prism]

that cant be good

[glad juniper]

it might be

it might not be

we'll see

[random prism]

[glad juniper]

i've got things to consider

[random prism]

Have fun considering

If it helps it has 2 batteries

And a lens hood

[glad juniper]

batt/charger?

[random prism]

Yes

2 batteries and said charger

[glad juniper]

which 50?

[random prism]

I uhh can't remember

Lemme find

It must be at my moms

I think it came with the 550

[glad juniper]

hmmm

[random prism]

Found a pic

It has UV protection filter on it

[glad juniper]

double hmmm

[pastel sentinel]

@glad juniper

im looking at 180 - 600mm

is it wort buying 2. hand?

[glad juniper]

The 180-600?

Used it's only a few hunge less than msrp

Just buy new

[random prism]

?

[glad juniper]

Just that

Double hmmm

[pastel sentinel]

how about the tamron 150 / 600

[glad juniper]

G1 is shit, G2 is tolerable

sigma is better on paper but personally i've got better results with the tamron

more people swear by the siggy tho

[misty steeple]

What body?

I assume some kind of z mount body

[pastel sentinel]

idk

[pastel sentinel]

D750

(nikon)

[misty steeple]

Ok so you cant use the 180-600 on it as its for a different mount.

[pastel sentinel]

oh ok

[misty steeple]

I would instead look at something like a used nikkor 200-500 5.6

They’re around 700 used

Overall it’s a better lens than the sigma 150-600 contemp and tamron g1/g2

But you dont get the 600

[pastel sentinel]

hmm

i found 2 600mm tamron for 600USD

600 each ofc

[misty steeple]

I mean for 100 more you get a lens that does everything better

If only having 500 is ok

[pastel sentinel]

hmm

[misty steeple]

Def check like ebay bids

[pastel sentinel]

can i take a look online for a while?

like do you nkow when you need to go?

[misty steeple]

Ye im just providing suggestions

[pastel sentinel]

xd

ofc

but i need that

ot

[misty steeple]

I usually look at ebay and mpb

[pastel sentinel]

alot*

[misty steeple]

I have a d750 too :))

Thought I don’t rly use it for planes anymore

Rn I have the sigma 150-600 contemporary for planes but im looking at selling it and buying the 200-500

[pastel sentinel]

hold on

can i DM u?

[misty steeple]

Sure

[glad juniper]

As long as you don't exactly need the af speed, the 2-5 is great

[misty steeple]

Yeah

[pastel sentinel]

AF speed?

whats that?

[random prism]

how fast it auto focuses

[pastel sentinel]

oh is it a big diferens on the 2 lenses?

[glad juniper]

Yeah it is

The 2-5 hunts in low light too

[misty steeple]

Wouldn't say its a big difference 💀 I want the sharpness and the much more effective vr which is kinda why

[misty steeple]

that depends on what camera body you use

[glad juniper]

anything thats not a d5/6/850/780

[misty steeple]

should be fine on a d4s

[glad juniper]

maybe d500/7500

[misty steeple]

ik the d600 and d610 struggles to autofocus in low light

the 200-500 shouldn't affect hunting in low light, none of the large telephotos should. Really just depends on the autofocus system of the body

I haven't had any low light autofocusing issues on my bodies so far except for nearly pitch black dance floors 💀

[glad juniper]

i do but thats also with old glass

mostly af/af-d

[misty steeple]

ah yeah

what body?

[glad juniper]

d7500

[misty steeple]

i mean

some of the af-d lenses should be just as good as af-s in low light

which d series

[glad juniper]

80-200 2.8 afd

[misty steeple]

really?

damn

thats a good one too

[glad juniper]

last gen af before they went to afs

and by gen i mean 80-200

[misty steeple]

Cause ik the D750, D7500, d800, d810, d780 all have the same autofocus system through the viewfinder

and the other d7xxx's i think

[misty steeple]

I'm ngl I want to impulse buy one 😂 but I also don't want to cause it'll just collect dust

built to last

[glad juniper]

give me a few weeks and i might sell you mine lmao

[misty steeple]

nah sell it to someone who might need it more than me

Prob would've bought one had I not bought a 70-200

[glad juniper]

i've got my eye on a *cosmetically damaged* 70-2 2.8 vr ii for under 500

[misty steeple]

slide the link

I have the vr ii rn

[glad juniper]

nah its through someone local

[misty steeple]

ah

[glad juniper]

yeah

[misty steeple]

ask him if you can test it out first

under 500 for just cosmetic issues is interesting

[glad juniper]

he's been shooting it since he bought it

[misty steeple]

damn

its a great lens

basically never leaves my backpack

although the vr noise on mine is annoying as fuck

[glad juniper]

and its af-s meaning i can jump to z soon

[misty steeple]

its prob just mine though

[misty steeple]

yuss ftz

[glad juniper]

its filter ring damage and cracked plastic near the mount afaik

[misty steeple]

ah

i mean that doesnt change anything if you don't use filters

[glad juniper]

yeah

sounds like he got it for 500 so he's trying to more or less break even

[misty steeple]

crazy deal ngl

[glad juniper]

and since its "damaged" he won't do more

[misty steeple]

i got mine for nearly 1k used

[misty steeple]

shit if its optically perfect and functions as intended who cares about that 😂

[glad juniper]

the only issue is he's trying to get the 105 1.4 before he sells

which are uh

not cheap

[misty steeple]

recommend him the 105 f/2 dc

[glad juniper]

he doesn't need the dc

[misty steeple]

i hear its better for the value

sharper

[glad juniper]

he's after it for a fast prime he can shoot sports/birds/cars with

[misty steeple]

not as fast autofocus speed and vr though

ah

nvm

i got my eyes on the dc and the 60mm macro

[glad juniper]

i sold my 60 macro

it was fine

[misty steeple]

is it sharp?

[glad juniper]

yeah it was sharp i just didn't use it enough

[misty steeple]

alr

[glad juniper]

and i got a 105 to replace it

[misty steeple]

i'm looking at the 105 macro and its not much more expensive but i read that theres focus breathing issues

🤷‍♂️

that hasnt bothered me in the past but it might for macro purposes

[glad juniper]

i haven't really noticed tbh

but i've been using it for scanning so there's not much focus matters

[misty steeple]

it only rly matters if you're trying to fill the frame or whatever

[glad juniper]

i do need to properly macro it soon tho

gotta get a proper flash diffuser tho

[misty steeple]

the vr ii has focus breathing issues but it hasn't bothered me ever

[glad juniper]

eh for planes near inf it doesn't really matter lol

[misty steeple]

yeah

plus they're already so far out the focal length changes aren't gonna do anything

how is the d7500?

[glad juniper]

lovely

[misty steeple]

my "upgrade" was between that and the d750 in the summer

[glad juniper]

the only two serious complaints i've got about it is it can't use a batt grip and that its only got a single card slot

[misty steeple]

i cant remember why i chose the d750 over it

wasn't cause of full frame

maybe it was the card slot thing

thats hella important for me nowadays

[glad juniper]

sensor maybe?

[misty steeple]

can't remember 😭

[glad juniper]

not the fx vs dx but better dr/low noise etc

[misty steeple]

eh the grip doesnt matter much cause the battery life is amazing

though its much more comfortable

[glad juniper]

i want it more for portraits lol

[misty steeple]

ye

[glad juniper]

i've got one for my d700 and i've been using the piss out of it

[misty steeple]

😂

it hasnt left my d750 since forever

i kinda like the feel of it more than the built in grips tbh

[glad juniper]

i can't really agree with that tbh, it feels way better on the F5

smoother ig

[misty steeple]

mmm

i'm gonna compare rq

[glad juniper]

but yeah the 7500 is lovely

its been my workhorse for the past 4 years

[misty steeple]

crop sensor is goated for aviation too

😔

[glad juniper]

high iso perf is eh at best but thats dx for you lol

[misty steeple]

yeah i think i like the battery grip feel a little more cause theres more grip to it

whereas on the d4s theres not rly any grip rubber where my palm is

kinda just in the front

idk i like more rubber feeling

the button placement is much nicer than on a battery grip though

[misty steeple]

sharp af

[misty steeple]

sharp as fuck damn

man I wish there was an angle like that at sfo

😔

reopen westfield

[glad juniper]

well there can be but you gotta trespass

[misty steeple]

yeah 😂

[glad juniper]

or so i've been told

[misty steeple]

pretend you're finding a parking spot

[glad juniper]

i was a good little spotter and just stuck to the bayfront

it was "fine"

[misty steeple]

all it takes is some shitty spotters to ruin it for everyone yk

[misty steeple]

i used to go there but the heat haze drives me crazy

[glad juniper]

i got lucky, the weather was shit lol

[misty steeple]

😂

[misty steeple]

love frenchbee

[glad juniper]

but i'm from the pnw so that was a non issue

[misty steeple]

i had some decent shots from bayfront

prob wont go there for a while though until golden hour/sunset goes back behind the airport

[glad juniper]

idk if i should go back to sfo

i even caught the funny

so like

[misty steeple]

ew 💀

golden hour went tough back in the summer

[glad juniper]

there's really no reason to go back if not for the reason that i've got a new lens and am a "better photographer" now

[misty steeple]

now the sunsets hella to the left

[misty steeple]

but heat hazy

[misty steeple]

if you do, check out the airtrain station

its been the best not rly any closer option spot for me

[glad juniper]

i'd probably do airtrain and the terrace

[misty steeple]

the only issue is thats like the only moment u get

[misty steeple]

the view is like framed right between two buildings

so u get no time

gotta make it work though

[misty steeple]

i havent done the terrace yet

idk if its worth it without one of those lens hoods for the glass

silicone or whatever

[glad juniper]

Oh that's a non issue

[misty steeple]

oh fr?

[glad juniper]

Yeah for me at least lol

[misty steeple]

kk

is the glass dirty or nah

[glad juniper]

I haven't had issues with dirty glass tbh

[misty steeple]

mmmm ok

might have to check it out

maybe in the spring

[glad juniper]

Glass is easy to work around if you go slow

[misty steeple]

idk if i've ever seen jetstar in person 💀

[misty steeple]

kk

[glad juniper]

Use your hand to kinda seal the lens to the glass

Panning is tough but doable

Idk how to explain it over text lol

[misty steeple]

😂

nah you're good

i'm looking at a pic of it rn

do you know anything ab nikon teleconverters

[glad juniper]

Which one wasn't shot through a window lol

[glad juniper]

Only the manual ones

[misty steeple]

ah ok

[misty steeple]

that is a clean pan

[glad juniper]

that'd be 1/10 handheld

[misty steeple]

damn

I needa work on keeping my hands still for panning 😂

[glad juniper]

more examples

one of these isn't through a window

[misty steeple]

i c

what is abx air

[glad juniper]

Nope

[misty steeple]

😭

[glad juniper]

The cessna was shot on a balcony and the alaska tails were shot from a parking garage

Everything else is window or plexiglass

Oh and an airplane window

[teal basalt]

Gonna give canon a try 🙏🏼

@random prism what is your favourite lens for canon?

[random prism]

That I've used? Or over all?

That I've used the 70-300ii

Over all is probably say the 70-200 or 100-400

[pastel sentinel]

Hey @glad juniper and @misty steeple

I found a nice used nikkor 200-500

For 765USD

I think that is good

[misty steeple]

Thats a good price

[glad juniper]

Yeah thats a pretty solid price

[pastel sentinel]

My mom wants me to wait😭

Til after xmas

I hope it is stil for sale then 🙏

[glad juniper]

one can hope

probably a good idea to find a backup or 4 in the meantime

[pastel sentinel]

There is also the tamron 150 600

For 541

USD

[glad juniper]

g1 or g2

[pastel sentinel]

G2

[glad juniper]

thats not bad either

[pastel sentinel]

Hmm

IL see when my mom let's me buy

[random prism]

Lucky

I have no room to talk 90% of my gear is hand me downs from my mother

Save for one lens

[random prism]

@glad juniper u still interested in the 550D? If not I have some other spotter asking

[glad juniper]

I've decided against it, mostly cause I don't think I terribly want to try to teach someone else a system I don't know

Also i might as well put more money towards a better body vs a mid body and still having to buy an edc lens

[random prism]

Kk

I sell to this kid then

Can maybe squeeze 200$ out of him

[glad juniper]

200 for the 550d, 75-300 bag and batts

50 1.4 is another hunge

[random prism]

Hey

I can try alright

He can negotiate

[pastel sentinel]

yo for Nikkor 200-500

shod i change camera boddy after?

if yes which?

(im curantly D750)

(lookig at D500)

[glad juniper]

No

That'd be a downgrade

If you want to stick in the dslr ecosystem get a d780/d850/d5/6

If not

Z6ii/6iii/7ii/8/9

Maybe a zf if you want

And if the rumors are to be believed, the z50ii will be a great little rig

[misty steeple]

the d500 is actually a better body than the d750/d780 in almost every way except full frame and low light performance. The D5 and D6 are too expensive to be starting photography with.

especially since hes considering doing wildlife, in which the d500 is the best dslr out there for wildlife

plus that'll give him that extra reach with the 200-500

@pastel sentinel If you can afford a d500 I would definitely consider it if you want to do wildlife, the d500 and 200-500 together is a really solid wildlife setup

plus you get that extra reach

[glad juniper]

Yeah but he's already got a 750

[misty steeple]

yeah

[glad juniper]

There's no real advantage to the d500/7500 other than """muh more reach"""

[misty steeple]

I mean if he really wants to get into wildlife photography, I believe he told me hes interested in it, I would definitely look at a D500 IF you can

[glad juniper]

Which is solved by having more mp to crop

[misty steeple]

the d500 has the same autofocus system as the d850

and 10 frames per second without the battery grip

It's a completely different camera than the d7500 and d750

[glad juniper]

At that point z50ii

Same sensor, newer af

[misty steeple]

z50ii is a travel camera

[glad juniper]

and you get your crop factor

[misty steeple]

thats it though

I mean, the only comparable camera for wildlife in the z series is the z8 but thats ff

there isnt an apsc replacement yet, closest thing would be the r7

[glad juniper]

So the d500s advantages are 10 fps and crop factor

Vs a proper fx sensor for more or less the same price

[misty steeple]

crop factor is a big advantage for what he wants to shoot and so is the frames per second yeah, but the autofocus system the d500 has kills the 51 point af system the d750/d7500 has

@pastel sentinel Basically if you really want to get into wildlife photography a d500 is going to do everything the d750 does but better for wildlife

For aviation you don't need the newer af system

[glad juniper]

Until you want to shoot in lower light, yes

[misty steeple]

Crop factor for planes kinda depends where you're shooting from

[glad juniper]

The d500 would be great

[misty steeple]

I'll take the af system over the low light in wildlife

there isnt gonna be birds and other animals when its that dark

[glad juniper]

It only does one less ev fwiw

-3 out of the 7500, -4 out of the 500

[misty steeple]

yeah but you aren't shooting when its that dark for wildlife

especially if he does birding

[glad juniper]

But you can still get a d5 for what, 1500 bucks?

12 fps, same af, fx

[misty steeple]

the crop factor is big for wildlife

rly important

[glad juniper]

And "professional"

[misty steeple]

i mean the d5 and d500 are also completely different cameras 💀

[glad juniper]

Then why hasn't everyone migrated to m43 with that 2x crop lol

[misty steeple]

the d500 was made for wildlife, d5 was made for sports/action

[glad juniper]

The lenses are smaller, cheaper, lighter

The bodies are smaller, cheaper etc

[misty steeple]

also not as good

💀

and not as good lenses

compared to canon/nikon/sony they don't have nearly as good telephoto and telephoto prime options

food for thought

[glad juniper]

Eh your also not getting much in terms of dr

Great sensor but compared to fx it's uh

Yeah

Especially modern fx

[misty steeple]

also the buffer is a thing to think about

couldn't imagine birding with my d750, 14 raw photos in a row

[glad juniper]

I'd do it with my d700

[misty steeple]

🤷‍♂️

I mean if he can get the d500 I'd go for it

[glad juniper]

I would too if there's no other option

[misty steeple]

ye

I'd also suggest the d850 but its too expensive

properly priced but expensive

[glad juniper]

It'd be about the same as the d5

And in that case get the d5 lol

[misty steeple]

I'd take the d850

45 megapixels compared to 20

you can crop hella in post for wildlife

[glad juniper]

But 12 fps vs 7

[misty steeple]

battery pack :))

[glad juniper]

OK 9 then

[misty steeple]

but extra money

[glad juniper]

Vs 12

[misty steeple]

plus you have to think about the weight and allat

meanwhile the d6 just exists

its just there

more expensive than the z9 💀

[glad juniper]

Where tf are you looking

[misty steeple]

the d6 new is more expensive than the z9 lol

body only

exactly a thousand more

like why

anyways

[misty steeple]

^

[glad juniper]

Don't buy new then

[misty steeple]

mpb is goated though

[glad juniper]

They are

[misty steeple]

the d6 does look smexy though

[glad juniper]

I should get a d1 lol

And maybe a d3s

[misty steeple]

the d3s is still going strong

built to last fr

pretty cheap too

I needa replace my shutter 💀

[misty steeple]

you should buy a d3x for funsies 💀

[glad juniper]

Nah not for that price

[misty steeple]

how much they going for

[glad juniper]

If I'm buying expensive dumb cameras I'm gonna get a smasnug nx-1

[glad juniper]

8-900 ish

[misty steeple]

really??

thats crazy

[glad juniper]

Mpb has some for 600 ish

[misty steeple]

[glad juniper]

And you get the sad limited iso too

[misty steeple]

😭 😭

goofy sensor

[glad juniper]

Mhmm

I need to fuck around with my 700 more

[misty steeple]

w

[glad juniper]

Finally took it seriously spotting a few days ago and it's lovely

Not a huge fan of the metering tho, it likes to run hot

[misty steeple]

older cameras just feel good to use

[glad juniper]

Gotta figure that out

[misty steeple]

[pastel sentinel]

Cuz I was thinking if I sell the d750

And buy the D500

Not in near future

But if ever want a new camera

Cus if I sell D750 and buy D500

I wil profit

[misty steeple]

If you want to get into wildlife I would definitely recommend the d500.

[pastel sentinel]

hmm ok

[misty steeple]

Crazy

[glad juniper]

oh thats not a bad

[misty steeple]

d850 is also 800 bucks off

its pretty close to its used prices now

holidays go brrr

[random prism]

B&H?

need me that 100-400

[misty steeple]

not even black friday yet too

brr

[glad juniper]

My own lil "holiday deals" buy

6-700 bucks through mpb, 260 at my local camera store

[random prism]

Good

Now you have a work camera

[glad juniper]

and its reasonably nice too

[pastel sentinel]

How moch is the d500 then?

[teal basalt]

really depends where you get it from

but for now, I would stick with your d750

[open ore]

anyone got lens recommendation? im using a canon rf system rn, looking for a lens that is minimally below f5, ard 300mm of focal length?

[glad juniper]

Faster than f5?

Get a 2.8 prime and a loan

Or the 100-300 2.8

That's only 9500 bucks

[pastel sentinel]

yoo i found 2 200-500mm nikkor f5.6

one 750USD

one 850USD

the one that is 100 usd more has a lens cover

for 100USD

[pastel sentinel]

which one do i buy

do i get the one whitout and buy cover later?

[misty steeple]

canon has a 300 2.8

couple thousand bucks though

and sigma has a 120-300 2.8 but you'll need to adapt it ef to rf

2-3 times the price though

[misty steeple]

shouldnt be an extra 100 for the lens hood

you'll need the lens hood though

[pastel sentinel]

i found the lens hood and it was 100usd

[misty steeple]

https://www.mpb.com/en-us/product/nikon-af-s-nikkor-200-500mm-f-5-6e-ed-vr

[misty steeple]

its used though

shouldnt be an extra 100 💀

[pastel sentinel]

hmm ok

[misty steeple]

@glad juniper Making some interesting financial decisions sending my 150-600 and d750 to mpb and replacing it with a d810 the 150-600 money will go towards a prime lens I need for sports

might buy the 200-500 sometime in the next couple months

[misty steeple]

what are you looking to shoot?

[glad juniper]

Have fun with mpb giving you less than they offered lol

[misty steeple]

i mean the only thing i'm not giving them is the charger

and the lens cases aren't included in the list of things that'll affect the price good cuz i'm keeping that shit

can be useful 🙂

[glad juniper]

Yeah but they've had issues with "it's not good enough quality, here's 300 bucks less"

[misty steeple]

ah 😂

[glad juniper]

Yeah

[misty steeple]

well mine is in near perfect shape so

i had a skin on it so theres basically no scratches

[glad juniper]

So that 500$ offer might actually be closer to 300

Also why 810

[misty steeple]

gonna try out wildlife, might as well get something with high megapixels

only 5 frames per sec but i'd rather have the megapixels then try to crop with a d4s or d750 yk

specifically birds

i found a d500 for a low price cuz of a coupon on ebay but if I bring it as a second camera for sports I usually don't want the crop factor

[glad juniper]

Give it a few months and get an 850

Those keep coming down in price

[misty steeple]

nah

well

I would if I had the money 😂

[misty steeple]

it hasnt rly tbh

its on sale rn cuz of black friday

[glad juniper]

https://www.mpb.com/en-us/product/nikon-d850/sku-2477240?utm_source=google&utm_medium=surfaces&utm_campaign=shopping+feed&utm_content=free+google+shopping+clicks&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=US|Google|Buy|Pmax|New|Pmax|Fujifilm|All|EN&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA6aW6BhBqEiwA6KzDc-_LAN0l5ulYxt2j1ygWBVPqcJeCLChCjyQPrrt9P2k86utkjNJiphoCQNQQAvD_BwE

You sure?

[misty steeple]

ah u meant used

[glad juniper]

Course I meant used

[misty steeple]

the d850 is a beast but yeah I gotta start saving up for other things

I gotta get a 300 2.8 for sports soon after that I gotta save up

[glad juniper]

Why not 300 pf

[misty steeple]

need the 2.8 for sports

high school lighting sucks

tryna join maxpreps and they won't accept anything less than a 300 2.8

[glad juniper]

Cringe

[misty steeple]

its true though

[glad juniper]

Pretty shit mindset unironically

[misty steeple]

at 2.8 with a 70-200 for field sports i'm already at 10,000 iso+

cause you need the higher shutter speed

also much sharper and faster than then 300 pf

gonna get the older vr 300 2.8 though

the vr ii is too expensive for so little advantages

the 2.8 is crucial for sports

[open ore]

hmmm

[open ore]

hmmm ok thanks

[somber berry]

Get the X2D

[glad juniper]

Yeah canon kinda sucks for fast rf primes tbh

[misty steeple]

ef fast primes are peak ngl

[solar coral]

I see

[lime galleon]

why have you replied to a months old message

[lime galleon]

just out of curiosity what are your experiences with using MPB and other used camera websites

KEH doesn't catalog individual serial numbers, if you buy a camera you have no real idea what condition it's in or what you're gonna get and that really puts me off

MPB does kinda scam you when you try to sell something but still it seems way better than the way KEH does things

[glad juniper]

Mpb is wonderful to buy from

[lime galleon]

I know a guy who got sent 2 busted nikon 500 F/4s from MPB though

[glad juniper]

Everything I've gotten from then is in better condition than they list

[lime galleon]

hmm, nice

[glad juniper]

Selling is a different story tho

[lime galleon]

what's the best way to sell something? local/facebook marketplace or something?

[glad juniper]

Honestly yeah local is best

Or trade in to your brand and get money off your new kit

I trade in locally but they don't give great rates

But I am trading old gear for equally old gear so it doesn't matter all that much

[lime galleon]

I live in Sri Lanka and the local gear trade just doesn't exist lol

to be fair, my current gear combo of extremely heavily used EOS 2000D + broken EF-S 18-55 without IS or STM is probably not gonna get me much money either way

[glad juniper]

Ebay is also a solid bet for selling

[misty steeple]

Reee

[pastel sentinel]

hey enyone know what tripod i shod get for the Nikkor 200 / 500_

[random prism]

budget?

[pastel sentinel]

around 100usd

[pastel sentinel]

this

[random prism]

https://benrousa.com/

this is what i use

open box

https://benrousa.com/slim-tripod-kit-aluminum/

Also depends on what you wanna do with the tripod

[glad juniper]

or alternatively, no tripod

it'll limit your movement and get in the way more often than not

or get a gimbal head if you insist on a tripod

fluid heads are slow and a ball head isn't what you want

[pastel sentinel]

need somthing i can use in a photo blind

a pop up photo blind

whit a chair and a bag

[random prism]

yeah if you're following things like animals or whatever ball head is not the best

might even want to consider monopod

lighter and more movement with the camera

if u have a local camera store, just go and try things

[glad juniper]

If you want a monopod get a tripod with a detachable leg

[random prism]

that sounds expensive

buy 3 monopods and 3d print an adaper to make it into a tripod

[glad juniper]

K&f has one on sale rn

You'd have to replace the head tho

[random prism]

tbh id just use my tripod with 2 legs not extended

[random prism]

dont the make ball heads with a fluid base

[glad juniper]

They can make the ball with a fluid base but it's still a "tighten the ball down" mount

[random prism]

get a geared one

im sure its cheap

[glad juniper]

No those are the ones with the spinny wheels that you have to manually spin

[random prism]

someone on ebay bugin

[glad juniper]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Take a loan out or something

[random prism]

ill buy a camera car atp

[glad juniper]

Atp just get like, a new camera

[random prism]

a hassleblad

or crazy arri

[glad juniper]

Hassy is nice but id get a leica q3 43 tbh

[random prism]

js gonna build a whole dark room

[glad juniper]

Oh that's cheap tbh

[random prism]

just gonna use the harry potter closet then

switch out the lightbulb for an inferred one or whatever they use

[teal basalt]

Does the d610 have sensor oil problems or is it just the d600?

Only asking cos I fancy selling the 7100, had enough of it lol

[misty steeple]

Wouldnt suggest downgrading to a d610

Autofocus alone, the d7100 has the 51 point af system which is old but reliable, while the d610 has the much older 39 point autofocus system. The nikon d610 sensor is also known for being unable to autofocus most of its autofocus points in low light. If you don’t like the d7100 you’ll hate the d610

What’s your budget and what type of camera are you looking for? @teal basalt

Maybe look towards a nikon d700 or d750?

[glad juniper]

Nah the 700 is nice but even more of a downgrade imo

750 or 780 would be great

[teal basalt]

Too much for me. Spent most of my money on other things. Ive got a hundred £ or so left, hopefully that will increase after Christmas and after selling some of my unused camera gear. So hopefully I'll have about 500 pound or so after selling everything. Mirrorless is out of my budget so dSLR will be my only option for now.

[misty steeple]

better than a 610 💀

at least it can autofocus in the dark

[glad juniper]

Yeah but it's the old 12mp sensor

Shit awb too

[misty steeple]

probably best not to go with either tbh 😂

[misty steeple]

with that budget you could probably grab a decent nikon d800 or d800e(go for the e if possible) for between 400-500 dollars on ebay, and you're using pounds so thats like 300-400 pounds

36mp, it has 51 point af system but on the older side(no group area autofocus), expeed 3 which is pretty old but still better than the d7000 expeed 2, full frame, same iso range as the d7000, same video capabilities, better dynamic range, overall just a better camera. With you're budget thats one of the better nikon dslr's you can get used.

still a beast

it can only do 4 frames per second though in 14 bit raw if that matters

[glad juniper]

Counterpoint d810 lol

You can get a eye popping one extra fps

But yeah, d800 or 750 would be a solid bet for an fx upgrade

The 800 is built for resolution over speed so it'll run slow but it'll give you great files to work with

You could also do the funny and get a d4

D3 would suffice if you're OK with the smaller sensor

[teal basalt]

Yeah, will probably get the d800 then. Would a 750 do a better job? Only asking because I've found one on eBay for 450 body only

[misty steeple]

D750 gets the tilt screen and 6.5 frames per second and the group area af but the d800/d800e gets the 36mp. If you go for the 800 get the 800e not the 800 because the d800e doesnt have an aa filter

What do you primarily shoot? If you dont need the high megapixels the d750 is probably the better choice

[misty steeple]

Well i mean you get the group area af which is amazing for action but the d810 is primarily a landscape camera so you dont rly need it but you also get the newer processor, better buffer, and better cards

But the d810 is lwk overpriced rn

[glad juniper]

450 on mpb is overpriced?

[misty steeple]

Im talking about good cosmetic quality and not a ridiculous shutter count

💀

They’re like 700 for a good one

Both on mpb for under 550 have over 240k shutter actuations are are in not great condition

[glad juniper]

It's a tool, it gets used, that's what it's for

If i wanted a shelf camera I'd buy a leica 💀

Unironically I'd shoot the pants off an m3 tho

[misty steeple]

Well replacing a shutter added onto the cost of a camera that price will cost more than a decent one combined

At that much it can fail at any time

[glad juniper]

Yeah and shutters can fail whenever for reasons cause they want to

Sony a7iii moment

[misty steeple]

Much more likely that much past its shutter expectancy

Its the question whether or not it’ll cost more to replace it if it does fail

Which would be more combined with the buying price for a d810 anywhere from 400 and up

If someone wants to shoot a lot I wouldn’t recommend going to the bottom of the list and choosing cameras way above the shutter expectancy and loose grips etc

I mean I bought a d4s way above the life and its almost at 500k actuations(rated for 400k) but there was no damage and just cosmetic stuff but for under 700

[glad juniper]

Mmmm d4s

[misty steeple]

Crazy deal but if i ever need to replace the shutter it’ll still be less than a “good” d4s, for a d800 prob not, theres also the parts thing and stores might not have shutters for the older cameras no longer serviced by nikon

[teal basalt]

D750 on eBay for 450, d800 on wex for 400

[misty steeple]

What do you primarily shoot? @teal basalt

[glad juniper]

750 ez

Unless you absolutely need the res

[misty steeple]

Ye

If you do portraits, landscapes, wildlife would be pushing it, get the d800/d800e

[teal basalt]

Not many planes in my area so I might look at cars, I have a 300mm lens anyways

[misty steeple]

If you dont do those things the d750 will probably be better

Yeah grab the d750

[teal basalt]

And wildlife yes

[misty steeple]

Ah

[teal basalt]

Forgot about that

Ok

[misty steeple]

I mean, 24 mp on full frame is pushing it for wildlife but so is 4 fps with the d800

[glad juniper]

If you spend more time in a studio then outside get the 750

[teal basalt]

No warranty or returns on eBay though

Shouldn't be a problem

[misty steeple]

Both have tradeoffs with each other tbh

I think the 750 would be better for u

@glad juniper boutta grab a d500 for wildlife decided I’d rather have the crop factor and arguably the best nikon dslr autofocus over the 36mp of the d810

For same prices lol

[glad juniper]

Why not z50 ii

[misty steeple]

Cause the d500 is better suited for wildlife

Z50ii is a vlogger and tourist camera

5.6 frames per second raw, small body, worse ergonomics, 400-500 dollars more, no dual card slots(big for me), worse build quality

Plus need to buy an ftz adapter so thats another 100

Planning to get a z8 later summer 2025 though

Or somewhere end of next yr

[glad juniper]

Isn't that 5.6 fps number for silent mode

[misty steeple]

Then mechanical shutter is slower

I think

Idk lemme check

[glad juniper]

9.7 for cont high

[misty steeple]

Ah

D500 is better for wildlife in every way except maybe autofocus tracking

[glad juniper]

E shutter is 11 silent, 15 in "full"

[misty steeple]

If i wanted to switch to z to start wildlife id get at least a z6iii/ii or z7ii

[glad juniper]

Plus the high speed capture 30

[misty steeple]

Though the z6 would be pushing it

[glad juniper]

Imo the only issue would be the battery life

[misty steeple]

Its honestly a just have it in the bag typa camera, tourism, parents, vlogging

[glad juniper]

I'm probably getting one for action/sports and maybe wildlife

[misty steeple]

No dual card slots, no battery grip capabilities, worse battery life by a lot, a lot less customizability, smaller, worse viewfinder(id rather have the optical viewfinder on the d500 than a low res evf), worse ergonomics

D500 was made for wildlife

[glad juniper]

The ergo isn't that bad

[misty steeple]

Try bidding on z7ii’s up to the z50ii price

If any pop up

[glad juniper]

Deeper grip over the 50

[misty steeple]

There was a z7ii that had a bid around 700-800 on ebay the other day

Crazy

[misty steeple]

Z50ii is way smaller and doesnt have a battery grip you can add so it would prolly feel worse

Especially if you put big glass on for wildlife and action

[glad juniper]

Where are you finding a 7ii for 900 bucks

[misty steeple]

It was some bid

Had a decent shutter count too

😂

You can find z7s for 900-1000 but i hear the autofocus on the first z7 is atrocious

[glad juniper]

Yeah it is

[misty steeple]

Early mirrorless moment

[glad juniper]

I can get a 50ii and the kit lenses for 300 bucks less than a reasonable condition. 7ii

[misty steeple]

But yeah sports, action, and wildlife id suggest a d500(prob not for low light sports though), d850, d4,d4s,(d3 would be pushing it), d5, d6 is overpriced, z7ii, maybe z6iii, z8, z9

[glad juniper]

But if I'm looking at 1500-1800 bucks I'm getting a d850

[misty steeple]

Cause its a bad combination for any type of action

💀

The z7ii is chefs kiss

[glad juniper]

Ah yes, flagship af tracking is bad

[misty steeple]

Meant the lens

A z50ii combined with a kit dx lens wont compare to a z7ii with something as cheap as the kit 24-70 f4

[glad juniper]

I feel like that's also not just the gears fault

TO A POINT I must add

Cause i can ball out with a d700 and an afd 50 1.8 and shoot better than my buddy on a 7ii and the 50 1.4

[misty steeple]

Well both cameras were designed for completely different reasons, its like comparing a d7500 to a d850 spec wise

[misty steeple]

Photographer not the camera moment

But when it comes to specs and on paper is what I meant

[misty steeple]

Ive seen people with z9s produce pictures that dont look good at all

😔

When it comes to the camera itself, specs and capabilities, a z7ii or a d500 will blow the z50ii away for sports action wildlife, granted the photographer knows what they’re doing yk, unless you’re doing video

Really the only mirrorless apsc camera successor to the d500 is the canon r7

[glad juniper]

Is this before or after the better af, newer processor, increased focus point and ibis over the 500

But let's be real here, what we all truly need is a d1x and whatever dx kit lens you can find

That's the true best camera out there rn

[misty steeple]

Yeah it has the better af tracking but everything else id rather grab a d500 for less cost

[misty steeple]

[glad juniper]

I kinda want one tbh

[misty steeple]

Nostalgia

Speaking of old cameras i kinda want an f5

[glad juniper]

Also a d3 but that'd be to run it against the d700 for a shootout

[misty steeple]

Dont me impulse buy

[glad juniper]

Oh the F5s are lovely

Especially for the price?

[misty steeple]

The build quality is just 😩

[glad juniper]

Arguably the best film camera ever made for 300 bucks?

Yes please

[misty steeple]

Easily

Built like a tank i hear

[glad juniper]

Can confirm

[misty steeple]

😔

[glad juniper]

I may or may not have dropped mine a few times

[misty steeple]

I might impulse buy one in the future

[glad juniper]

Oh definitely do it sooner than later imo

[misty steeple]

GAS gonna catch up to me

[glad juniper]

I need to shoot the f5 more but it's kinda too much for whatever I'd like to shoot with it rn lol

[misty steeple]

Valid

[glad juniper]

Esp on film

[misty steeple]

Film looks cool

Ye

One day all the top f mount gear will be dirt cheap and thats when I go crazy

[glad juniper]

Same ish focal range, same film stock, which would you rather edc lmao

And the minolta gets a flash so it's really not even a truly fair comparison

[misty steeple]

[glad juniper]

I just need to shoot more tbh

Been way burnt out for a while now after taking photog in school

Doing this shit for a grade sucks btw

But I will say this, that class convinced me I needed some funny lenses so I'm not that sad about it lol

[teal basalt]

I got some old Minolta film SLR at a thrift shop once

Got it for 50p ($0.64)

[random prism]

W Redbull flavor

Oh

And that

[glad juniper]

it is tho

[teal basalt]

Maus you have a 7500 right?

There's one for the same price as the 750 do I stick with it or look at buying the 7500?

Mainly because it's newer of course

[glad juniper]

i mean the 7500 is fine but the sensor holds it back in low light imo

i've got a buddy with a 780 and we did a shootout a few months ago

there wasn't really a clear winner

he did better in shit light, i did better in IQ but i was also using better glass

i'd still get the 750 on the basis that its a better camera in a few ways but that more than warrents the same price imo

there's not one or two big things to avoid by not getting one yk?

like honestly the only real "issues" with the 750 over the 7500 is the size and the "worse" video perf

its got far and away the better sensor, better af, better processing

double card slots, a mildly longer battery life etc etc

[glad juniper]

for refrence

but thats not to say the 7500 isn't a bad camera

its got arguably the best apsc sensor ever

[random prism]

@glad juniper

Just for you

[glad juniper]

[random prism]

Imma do it

@glad juniper

https://www.facebook.com/share/sfB4P865wsgaD35B/

Maybe a good work cam

[glad juniper]

So long as you don't absolutely need the VF the new powershits are quite nice

[random prism]

i would prefer not to have Ventricular fibrillation

[glad juniper]

I don't terribly love the ergo on the g7x but it's a sold camera spec wise

[random prism]

idk how much id use it

or how id not break it if i kept it on me all the time

[glad juniper]

It called "camera case"

[random prism]

imma get a full size peli case

[glad juniper]

Based

And i will say, the g7x has a nice lens

[random prism]

ill look into it

depending on Christmas bonus

i still need a GPU for my computer

[pastel sentinel]

yooo i need help fast

idk what to post

i have 3 pic i like

i need help

pls join general if you woud like to vote

@glad juniper

[glad juniper]

can't

[random prism]

Asking maus to leave #aviation #1023755067079282789 is very rare

Rarely you will see him in spotting

If u see maus in general chat you're dreaming

[glad juniper]

Or the world's ending and I've been banned

[random prism]

maus ban is not on my 2025 bingo card

[pastel sentinel]

Can I dm you the 4 pic then?

[random prism]

just send in #spotting

[pastel sentinel]

but it is not a plen

it is eagle

[random prism]

here is probs fine ig or spotting

doesn't really matter all that much

[pastel sentinel]

ok

[random prism]

a normal photog channel would actually be nice

[pastel sentinel]

yes

or a wildlife

which one is best

[random prism]

why not all 4

but 1 if you want just 1

[pastel sentinel]

hmm ok

tysm

[random prism]

np

[glad juniper]

Gimme the tan creative corner already

[pastel sentinel]

i asked staf

thay sayd there is not moch to do as the owner is not moch around enymore

[random prism]

Can't even make a thread 🙏

[solid fable]

😍

[lime galleon]

obv this is annoying but I feel like when people ask for something under $1k it's worse

cuz usually they'll also say something like "I need to buy new cuz my parents say so"

and then their only options are shitty APS-C camera and hopefully some fast standard zoom

[misty steeple]

Fuck yeah

Saved 250ish bucks because of an autofocus squeak that I fixed in 2 mins and a tiny crack in the distance scale which isnt opened up

W

[glad juniper]

can i have some mm

[misty steeple]

😔

Of course

[solid fable]

Ermmmm

[random prism]

yeahhhh

[misty steeple]

[misty steeple]

well not really, you can get solid full frame cameras and apsc cameras used under 1k and a good zoom

you can get something like a canon 5d mark iii with the 80-200 2.8 for under 1k used

Nikon d750 or d800 paired with the 80-200 2.8 also is easily under 1k used

both older lenses before the 70-200's but superior to most of the kit lenses

if not all except a couple mirrorless ones

[lime galleon]

yeah, you 100% have good options if you buy used

but most people with a budget of just $1k probably got it as gift money from their relatives and are scared of buying used

[misty steeple]

yeah thats true, just gotta know what the good used choices are

used is the way to go w budgets though, as long as they know that then they're set

[glad juniper]

you can even get the afs 80-200 in that deal too

[misty steeple]

yeah

taking that over any kit super zoom/standard zoom all day

old used gear is nice for the price

love me some bokeh rows fr

[solid fable]

I’ve only bought 1 lens new before

Used is the way to go

But imo I only do that for lenses, I prefer new bodies

[misty steeple]

agreed

the only new lens I ever bought was the sigma 150-600...could've saved 300 bucks easily by buying used idk why I did that

sold it 2 weeks ago too

[solid fable]

Lmao nice

Solid lens

[misty steeple]

bodies I'd buy new purely for the warranty but they don't make the ones I use new anymore so

[solid fable]

lol yeah

[glad juniper]

Buy new if you can buy new

[misty steeple]

ye

[glad juniper]

But used is just fine

[solid fable]

Fr

[misty steeple]

like if I were to buy one of the z series cameras I'd buy new for stuff like the warranty

[solid fable]

That’s what I did

[misty steeple]

W

[solid fable]

Trade ins are nice too

[misty steeple]

that too

and refurb

[solid fable]

Yeah when I had a d850 it was refurbished via Nikon

Perfect condition

[misty steeple]

nice

refurbished is basically new but with some cosmetic usage maybe

[solid fable]

Yeah especially direct from the manufacturer

[misty steeple]

pretty sure they replace the shutter for refurbished bodies too

[glad juniper]

ngl now i want a d800 for the old high res lol

[solid fable]

😂

[pastel sentinel]

Yooo

@glad juniper @misty steeple

Shit I buy nikkor 200-500 for 850 us?

Or tamron 150-600 for 600

For the nikon D750 and D500

[glad juniper]

Which version

[pastel sentinel]

G2

Tamron 150-600 F/5-6,3 Di VC USD G2 for Nikon

[solid fable]

Real

[glad juniper]

Do you want the extra 50mm on the back end

And how much are you stopping down by

[random prism]

Fr made that just for maus

[solid fable]

😂😂 real

[glad juniper]

It about sums it up too

and I'm not even that good at it

I just give normie reccs unless you want funny cameras

[pastel sentinel]

stoping buy?

[glad juniper]

Yeah

You know what the aperture does right

[pastel sentinel]

oh yeah

the 150 to 600 is 5 to 6,3

while the nikkor 200-500 is continues 5.7 or smt

[glad juniper]

That's not what I mean

[pastel sentinel]

shit im bad as this

xd

what do you mean then''

[glad juniper]

The widest aperture a lens has isn't where it's the sharpest

Optically it's generally 1.5-2 whole stops from wide open

So a 2.8 lens is "supposed to be" sharpest at 4-5.6

That's not always the case

But generally so

So i shoot my lens (sigma 100-400 5-6.3) at f/11

That's generally where i see it to be sharpest

[pastel sentinel]

ah ha

[glad juniper]

Really good lenses are sharp wide open

But those are more expensive

[pastel sentinel]

hmm

ok so i shod go for the tamron?

becs juging on my local resorses i think l be doing more wildlife then aviation

so reach is good in bird photography

[glad juniper]

It is but the nikon is a faster lens

It can do better in low light

Not sure about how the vrs stack up tho

But you'd be tripoding so it don't matter

[pastel sentinel]

ee