terminate old gen

[ripe topaz]

I love this game and it really hurts to see it at its current state.

@ancient junco Bro you know I’m right look at the official server there’s like only 4 full pops the game is dying and everyone would agree

D11 u guys made miracles come to reality with this game if u do this you will potentially have game of the year on your hands.

[nova nacelle]

you do realize that the games crossplay right also your talking about killing the game but you do realize over half the players are currently old gen not everyone has the money to buy a new console especially after covid and on top of that old gen hasn't reached maximum performance yet but it may within the next 2-3 years

[nova nacelle]

if your talking about weeklies then there was only 4 2 days ago full pop due to wipe although monthlies on the otherhand there's over 10 full pops

got to love people wanting things changed when they don't have a clue how it works and how much time and money it would take

[ripe topaz]

Yeah so leave the game at potato graphics for three years just cuz y’all can’t get yo money up

[ripe topaz]

Don’t game if you poor grind make money then play

[worthy thorn]

L mindset tbh

[nimble osprey]

Grow up kid

[nova nacelle]

you do realize I have a new gen and have for over 2 almost 3 years now

difference is I'm not a toxic individual that whines and complains about every little thing

[ripe topaz]

Im not wrong bro if u play you should have a new gen if not go work and buy one simple

[ripe topaz]

Yea and do u know how much money they make from skins alone?

Kids are mad cuz the ps5&xboxnew been out for 5 years and they still ain’t got one make more money so new gen players don’t have to get isolated from content because ur 10 year old console will fry if they add it

Call me a bad guy but you know it’s going bad when u play games and can’t upgrade consoles the only people I understand are the 12-18 year olds that don’t got jobs but other than that y’all need to get yo money up.

[marsh iris]

it's not even been 4 years yet... what are u saying 5 😭

[ripe topaz]

2020 4 years still the same focus on my point instead of meat riding one mistake I make

[marsh iris]

November 2020...

so not not even 4

[ripe topaz]

Literal geek

[ripe topaz]

Do u have friends?

[marsh iris]

i mean ur clearly like 15 or some shit so honestly can't expect u to understand basic shit

like how the majority of the world is in an economic crisis 😭😭😭

[ripe topaz]

Don’t mean you can’t work

[marsh iris]

or how most console gamers are very casual about it & don't need/want to buy a new console

🤣

i mean i agree this game needs to let go of old gen. But not for the same shitty reasons u think

[ripe topaz]

Not our problem it’s an excuse for not having enough to buy one

[marsh iris]

hopefully ur just a kid trolling for attention.. cause this is rough man

[ripe topaz]

My reasons are valid I ask for more content and the only way for that is letting old gen go

[ripe topaz]

Im not the guy that says the truth is always hated by the people he’s pointing out.

[ripe topaz]

Im just giving people a reality check

[marsh iris]

how old are u?? lmao

[ripe topaz]

Not your problem focus on subject

[marsh iris]

ya ok so ur just a kid

[ripe topaz]

Don’t matter what iam

[marsh iris]

rlly does explain ur incompetence

hope ur parents start caring more soon bro 🙏🙏 have a good night

[ripe topaz]

Bro know when the exact date the ps5 came out like literal sign that u don’t get no motion

[marsh iris]

google little one.. google

[ripe topaz]

You don’t have parents

[ripe topaz]

Dude Is 32 and still living in his moms basement and calls me incompetent 💀💀💀💀💀

[nova nacelle]

not enough to be making a remake of the game to satisfy you yet

[ripe topaz]

Bro then it’s their problem the game will die like what😂

[nova nacelle]

games not going to die if you did some research which you seem incapable of and only want to complain you'd realize over half the community is still on old gen and before you say just buy a new gen that costs money and people have to focus on their bills first

[ripe topaz]

Yea no this kids defo old gen that’s why ☠️☠️☠️

[nova nacelle]

I'm new gen

series x but nice try

[ripe topaz]

Then why u fighting for old gen like your life depends on it do you just have nothing better to do?

[nova nacelle]

I'm not fighting for anything I'm stating the obvious facts that you are to stubborn to admit to or listen to

[ripe topaz]

Clowns fr fr

[nimble osprey]

About 12, from what I read.

[ripe topaz]

Just buy a ps5

Mad ash ur broke

I’m 20 geek

[marsh iris]

🤣

[marsh iris]

sure hope not

[ripe topaz]

Gl*zin is real get a room you two!

[real ravine]

Bruh it’s been like 3 years nearly since rust came out on console, the PS5 came out before that, if people still don’t have one and they still play this game then honestly tell me why. Imma out myself here but I don’t even have a job, and I don’t get paid for doing chores or nothing yet I still got my hands on a $650 PS5.

And I would say it was a worth it investment, I’ve gotten more fun out of it than that money could buy so I’m happy. But it really does suck that is New Gen console players are all getting held back coz of old gen. I’ve read a lot into why they can’t really make a new gen version, well they can but it’ll take a lot of time and investments which on their end just isn’t worth it rn.

But I hope they try to do something to separate the 2 generations of consoles because I thoroughly believe that would make the game thrive again like the good old days, lots of people would come back

[nova nacelle]

no offense but with how your acting and how your not understanding what responsibilities are like it doesn't seem like your 20 at all

[nimble osprey]

The game was developed for the old-gen consoles; at this stage, it makes absolutely no difference what you play on, as the game will continue to be developed for the old generation. A next-generation version may come in the future, probably for the PS6 and Xbox alike.

[ripe topaz]

And that’s why the game will die 🥱

[nova nacelle]

you honestly need to read up and do better research because the new gen consoles yes did release before console rust came out but you also have to think about this console rust was already in development and nearly finished as the beta was already out before new gen released

[real ravine]

Yea but it was developed poorly no offence to D11 they’re doing just about as good as they can. But imo they started off RCE life wrong.

I didn’t mean to reply to that btw mb

[nova nacelle]

.... yk for being 20 my cousins 6 year old kids seem more mature

[ripe topaz]

And for a 40 year old you shouldn’t be playing a game ☠️

[ripe topaz]

Someone agrees

[real ravine]

Yea I know, but I’m saying if they thought about it a little better, delay the game for a year, release it when it’s properly optimised to be playable on old gen with consistent frames, little lag etc then they would’ve been set

[nova nacelle]

I'm not 40 lol besides you do realize if that was the case the game likely wouldn't exist as majority of players that made pc rust what it is today were 20-40

[real ravine]

And workaround all the issues they have with the pc rust files not working to well and being all mumbo jumbo and using so much ram

[nimble osprey]

On another note, Sony has not discontinued and is still producing PS4 consoles, which have sold more units than any other. The fact is that more people are playing on old-generation consoles than new-generation consoles, and changes are likely only when the old-generation consoles are discontinued and phased out.

[ripe topaz]

Bro the game is in shambles yall just delusional at this point

A bug that’s been out for three years still isn’t fixed (tree bug)

Frames are on 30 on ps5 like this game is a joke rn

[nimble osprey]

#🐛report-bugs

[nova nacelle]

unfortunately I don't think they're going to do any research, listen to us or listen to the developers that made the game as the developers have explained the same things both of us have tried explaining to them and it goes in one ear out the other

[real ravine]

Well obviously there’s more people who use an old gen console, I mean it was out for much longer. But that doesn’t necessarily mean there’s more old gen players on rust compared to new gen, I mean think realistically I’d say at least 50% of the old gen player base who used to play stopped for the lag and frame drops. I know of 3 people who are still on old gen who don’t play anymore for that reason. The rest of the people I know who still play are on new gen’s

[ripe topaz]

I don’t care i play the game the game is bad I don’t need to research graphics are bad frames are bad bugs are over the roof there is no need for research the game is cooked.

[real ravine]

Now I’m not saying there’s less old gen players coz I’m pretty sure there’s still a bit more than new gen correct me if I’m wrong, but it old gen players are leaving this game at a pretty high rate either bc they’re on new gen now or can’t handle the game the way it is rn

[nova nacelle]

that bug does get tedious at times but that bugs also on pc and your complaining about 30 fps but you do realize it was ps that locked the game for their platform to 30 fps

[nimble osprey]

D11 have the statistic on the number of old gen vs new connecting to servers; old gen far outnumber

[nova nacelle]

not the game and not the developers

[real ravine]

Yeah like I said they probably do outnumber new gems but that will probably change at the rate this game is going rn

[nova nacelle]

if you don't like it don't play it, but then again you'll probably still continue complaining without doing any proper research and try to attack others that don't agree with you or give you undeniable facts just because you have the I can never be wrong mentality even with the proof and multiple people telling you on the daily

[ripe topaz]

Bro loads of new gems quit cuz of the quality and the frames I might quit too if the game Dosent change

[nova nacelle]

maybe in 2-3 years time but unlikely anytime soon

[nimble osprey]

Please do

[real ravine]

Yea ofc but it way more playable on new gen

[ripe topaz]

If u are a dev you are bad at your job man

Very bad

[real ravine]

Lmao by then we’ll have PS5 pro’s and probably another Xbox and they still would probably support old gen by then too😂

[nova nacelle]

people aren't quiting because of the games quality they quit because they don't have the drive to continue after getting raided or always want to take the easy way out whether that be in large teams, clans or them getting themselves banned

[ripe topaz]

Don’t think so your just makin crap up

People quit because this game is not progressing

[real ravine]

I’ve already talked to you about this. It’s not that people want the easy way out of stuff that’s your excuse you use under every comment section the drive to play is there, but it really does feel like we seem to be getting nowhere

And personally I can understand why that’s frustrating

[nova nacelle]

didn't make anything up but your only proving me right about you having the I can never be wrong mentality even with multiple people saying the same facts the mods and the developers say countless times because people never listen and only hear what they want to hear

[real ravine]

I still want to play rust as much as I did in beta if not more coz I have a ps5 now

[nova nacelle]

progressing every month with every update

[ripe topaz]

Exactly man Finaly someone that speaks facts and Dosent honey gl*ze the devs

[nova nacelle]

again just proved my point again

[real ravine]

Hasn’t been an actual update for like 2 months and they seperate the big updates by like 3 months

They’ve only had bug fixes or little things

[nova nacelle]

you do realize that their releasing 3-4 updates worth from pc with every update on console right?

[nimble osprey]

Plus the next one is only 2 weeks away

[real ravine]

No not necessarily, they just add stuff that mostly fits into a certain category, sometimes a little more than what pc adds at a time, sometimes a little less. But pc updates every month

So really pc is getting updates and content out about twice as quick as we get it

[nova nacelle]

just take the update that added teas and all the content that came along with it that wasn't all from 1 update on pc if I remember right that was either 4 or 5 updates in one

[real ravine]

Ngl I thought it was this coming thrusday/Friday wipe

On PTB

[nova nacelle]

pc has been out for 10.5 years console not even 3

[nimble osprey]

10 year development vs 3 year development do the maths

[nova nacelle]

I take that back barely 3 years

forgot the 3 year anniversary passed

they also have to take into consideration that facepunches development team is several times larger

[real ravine]

Console rust was in line with how pc rust was just before they added electricity, in 3 years all we’ve had is berries and teas, a couple ‘new’ monuments (some were already in the beta like power plant) electricity, some performance improvements and from what I can think of rn that’s about it.

[nova nacelle]

given facepunch has basically been ruining the game and the playerbase they built up over the years by making everything new player friendly which unfortunately is 90% of gamers today they don't like a challenge and what everything handed to them its honestly disappointing

[real ravine]

When you really look back at what’s actually been added we are progressing pretty slowly

[real ravine]

No you’re completely wrong about that mate stop saying that it’s genuinely annoying now.

It’s not bc people don’t want to try or like it easy at all

[ripe topaz]

Bro the tech we have now compared to the tech they had 10 years ago is far out bro not an excuse

[nova nacelle]

keep in mind all the updates you just mentioned took almost 6 years to release on pc less than 3 on console while having a smaller team on console

[real ravine]

We play rust for the difficulty do you not get that?

[nova nacelle]

stating facts not a excuse not that you'd be able to tell the difference

[real ravine]

Yea all they did was copy and paste those files then optimise it for consoles

Not really that hard compared to how pc updates everything from scratch

[ripe topaz]

Bro just cause I don’t get bullied n school and study rust don’t mean I’m clueless I’m just a normal player that wants to see the game at a better state

[nimble osprey]

LMAO, you don't know anything about development; PC code and console code are completely different. There is no copy and paste.

[real ravine]

Bruh you don’t have to try to insult people every comment mate just talk like a normal human being

[ripe topaz]

I have a life can’t sit here studying dumb ahit like this I just want a better version of the game

[nova nacelle]

wasn't a copy and paste programming doesn't work like that as me survive wesson the mods and the developers have explained so many times if I had a dollar for every time someone repeated that same statement and had to repeat ourselves I'd probably have enough to retire

[ripe topaz]

He insulted me first bro

[real ravine]

Oh fair game then lmao

[ripe topaz]

I asked for a simple thing and he was butthurt about it

[real ravine]

Mb I didn’t even notice

[nova nacelle]

actually you attacked me and several others multiple times we are just tired of repeating ourselves because you can't learn to take a hint especially when we've stated the facts and repeated ourselves several times

[ripe topaz]

Bro I don’t care about your useless facts I want the game to be fixed and that’s it stop gl*zing

[nimble osprey]

The game is developed for the old generation; it will not be discontinued. A new game for the next generation may come in the future but for now D11 priority is completing the current version.

[nova nacelle]

^ @ripe topaz only proving my point further

[ripe topaz]

Ok then optimise it so it’s not 20 frames on new gen

Ffs is that a big ask

It’s unplayable

[real ravine]

Obviously that’s not exactly what they do but they use pc files and models to base their files for the console. Thats literally what they base the updates on I was talking to someone about this a long time ago

[nova nacelle]

like I've explained several times already ps has their fps locked at 30 for most games not all it is not locked by the game or the developers

[nimble osprey]

The game is optimised for Old gen as is intended not next gen

[real ravine]

So apologies if I don’t get it exactly right I’m not a coder or game designer unfortunately

[ripe topaz]

Bro the thing is y’all say “old gen” have u not seen how the game runs on old gen it’s literally on 5 frames

[nova nacelle]

nothing against you but it does get annoying at times repeating the same answer to the same question a few hundred times a day every week for months

[real ravine]

Yea I ain’t gonna lie man I think that’s your monitor or tvs fault if your game is running that bad on new gen, my game is pretty smooth running with little lag but the graphics are trash I and I have a TV

[ripe topaz]

Bro I don’t care fix the game if ur a dev fix the game

[nova nacelle]

I've played on both have no issue with either

[real ravine]

And I’m pretty sure it’s 60 fps because no way it’s 30, I could tell the difference watching my old gen clips lmao

[ripe topaz]

No I’m saying on old gen

[nova nacelle]

I honestly can't tell if your a troll or a toxic kid that's been spoiled to much growing up

[nimble osprey]

The 3d assets, characters etc are transferred over however the game code is completely redeveloped for both the PS and Xbox consoles in both coding launguages

[real ravine]

Oh yea I thought you were talking about your experience on new gen running rust mb

[real ravine]

Yea that’s it

[ripe topaz]

I’m self made kid not like you bro

[ripe topaz]

I say the truth I don’t make excuse explains why your overweight and don’t get any action

[real ravine]

Yea I’ve been in other comment sections and have seen exactly the same you have coz I always see you under all the comments lmao. I know basically all the stuff you know from what ppl have said here just sometimes I accidentally mix some things up

[ripe topaz]

The game is not running good for new gen it’s too laggy and framey everyone can agree

[real ravine]

Mine runs very steadily on new gen man just the graphics look like Roblox

[nova nacelle]

obviously your not like me I've had to work most of my life even when I was still going to school till I graduated and work for a living pay my bills like anyone else that has the slightest bit of responsibility which when I mentioned before about people having to pay their bills first that getting a new gen console isn't everyone's priorty you just started calling people broke which tells me you've never worked a day in your life and have no responsibilities

[ripe topaz]

Go next to a Zerg base or play on a 100 pop and see

[real ravine]

I only get frame drops when loading in big bases or multiple monuments

[nimble osprey]

#📜rules 2

[ripe topaz]

Bro i been working since I was 15 don’t compare me to you when you don’t know jack

[real ravine]

Well yea but that happens on pc too to some ppl

[ripe topaz]

With bad pcs😐

[nova nacelle]

people always claim the bases and compounds I build solo is larger than most clans anyways

[real ravine]

Yea

[nova nacelle]

all ik is you seem to have no clue about responsibilities or about how the world works

[ripe topaz]

You see where I’m getting at on pc if u have a good pc it runs perfect over here we have the good consoles still runs bad and has bad graphics

[nova nacelle]

I have no issue on either old gen or new gen nor do I have any issues on pc

[ripe topaz]

I do just make more money get a better job I’m doing that and living alright

If u have kids I understand but you don’t strike me as the kind that has kids since you spend hours explaining why graphics are good to randoms

[real ravine]

I get what you mean man, but we gotta take into account that it was made for old gen’s unfortunately and there’s not a whole lot that can be done because of the way they went about making the game. It sucks that the people who spent money on new gen’s aren’t really getting their worth with this game but like I said earlier I’m still happy I bought a PS5, couldn’t imagine playing on old gen still that was horrid

[ripe topaz]

True bro but ditch the ps5 version Atleast more bug fixes and performance updates

[nova nacelle]

kids no, but I do take care of the family always going out of my way to help whether that be fixing their computers answering any tech problems they have to fixing any issues with their sinks or drain pipes

[real ravine]

I do still think ditching the old gen is the way to go but I know it’s gonna be a long while before that ever happens if it even does happen.

[ripe topaz]

Yea nah man this game is hopeless Atleast you understand common sense cheers bro

[real ravine]

So for the mean time hopefully they can make some improvements towards performance and especially graphics soon

[nova nacelle]

ik there was alot of people complaining about ps4 for rust never played rust on playstation but had no issue with the original Xbox one nor the series x only noticeable difference for me between the 2 was the loading times into servers was faster and the screen was brighter

[ripe topaz]

I Hope so too cuz I spent too much money on skins to quit 😂

[nimble osprey]

D11 website clearly states:

Rust Console Edition is primarily focused on Xbox One and PS4. On Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5, through their respective backwards compatibility modes, the game will work. However, we have not completed our implementation of these compatibility modes and as such you may experience higher levels of instability and unexpected behaviour.

[real ravine]

Nah you’re good man get the frustration bro believe me but after seeing what actual devs had to say I get it now

At least somewhat get it anyway😂

[ripe topaz]

Yea know they actually live in their own universe

[nova nacelle]

unfortunately common sense isn't all that common nowadays otherwise wouldn't have to have a record player on repeat all the time with responses

[real ravine]

Yea the loading time on ps4 was like minimum 5 minutes and we always sat on less than 20 fps for soooo long

[ripe topaz]

Idk why facepunch even allowed this game to happen

[real ravine]

I got my ps5 nearly a year ago and it was like that then

Idk what it’s like now but I’ve seen they had a few improvements specifically for PS and performance/graphical improvements for all consoles since then too so

[nova nacelle]

different developers facepunch said it couldn't be done for console D11 succeeded where facepunch claimed it wasn't possible

[real ravine]

Probably is really good now, tryna get my little brother to play coz he has my old ps4 and I wanna see how it runs haha

[nova nacelle]

I'm honestly tempted to get rust for the ps4 just to see if it's even a 10th as bad as everyone claims

[ripe topaz]

Bro there is no room for evolution in this game if we don’t get a ps5 version trust me guys cuz if they add cars heli bigger maps old gens will literally fry

[ripe topaz]

It is

[real ravine]

And idk were you guys are from but I’m from Australia and the internet is so bad too so a lot of the lag I got back then could be because of that but now I’m on LAN so I get like steady 60 ping which is as good as I can get

[nova nacelle]

like I said record player on repeat answered that very statement

several times

[real ravine]

Yea I wanna see how it is now but my bro won’t download it 😭

[ripe topaz]

I think it’s a factual statement from me

The game can’t evolve without new gen versions that is a fact

[nova nacelle]

honestly if you actually have said anything true it would've been that you didn't like the state the games in but everything else is honestly full of it

[real ravine]

The game can only get so far while trying to support new Gen, I’m pretty sure they still have a fair bit they can do before the old gen’s hit the hay but yea it definitely won’t last forever

[real ravine]

I meant old gen sorry

[ripe topaz]

I’m starting to think this brother really wants the job interview at d11😂😂😂

Cuz this is delusional

[nova nacelle]

like I said in the past only way I could see them making a new gen version of the game like what chx keeps repeating about wanting is when the amount of new gen players exceed the amount of old gen + it would take alot of time and money to develop as everything would have to be rebuilt from the ground up

[ripe topaz]

Just leave the old gens to the old gen version and make a new gen for the new gens costs a lot of money yes but it’s a long term investment.

[real ravine]

Also @nova nacelle can I add you to one of these bug reports I made to see if you know how to fix it coz I have no clue

[nimble osprey]

A next-gen version would be a completely new version and purchase of the game, not the current. Which is not in development.

[nova nacelle]

honestly your Giving me more of a headache than my cousins kids running around screaming so at least you got that going for you

[ripe topaz]

I’ll buy it do not mind

[real ravine]

I only see them doing it once the old gen’s start having serious problems bc right now i think they are pretty dead set on not making a new version, not to mention all the other difficulties they face

[ripe topaz]

I can say the same

[real ravine]

Yea ik that’s how it is for most games that have multiple versions

[ripe topaz]

Literally

[nova nacelle]

would've been over if you'd listen to the facts repeated by everyone countless times but it just goes in one ear and out the other

[ripe topaz]

Or maybe d11 just lacking

[ripe topaz]

It’s not facts it’s excuses I don’t like listen to excuses

[nova nacelle]

console rust 3 years vs pc rusts 10.5 years+2-3x larger development team

[ripe topaz]

It’s like getting the fat kid to go to the gym

He just keeps making excuses

[nova nacelle]

like I said before

honestly if the current generation gets any worse humanity as a whole is in trouble

[ripe topaz]

Is this guy ok I’m almost 21

[nova nacelle]

I honestly knew he was going to continue

he hasn't stopped

[ripe topaz]

Bro just meat riding is crazy

[nova nacelle]

I'll give you this much wisdom has been chasing you for so long I think you've outran it

[ripe topaz]

🥱

I didn’t know boomers can get this delusional

[nova nacelle]

not that old but not that it matters

[ripe topaz]

Ok so just special ed?

Cuz this delusion levels are too highly for the avrg human

[nova nacelle]

@nimble osprey I'll ttyl goodluck explaining common sense

[ripe topaz]

Like I said your not explaining your making excuses for d11s incompetence

Anyways this chat is not going nowhere so I’ll just dip before I get annoyed

[nova nacelle]

like I said before you can't tell the difference between a fact and a excuse, I'm just saying this before I go to sleep get some help

[nimble osprey]

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain

[ripe topaz]

I’m so hurt man damn

U really hit the spot with that one huh big boy

Goofy ahh kid man

[real ravine]

Again you seriously need to stop with that ‘this current generation’ bs , the only thing I agree with you on this generation is how soft ppl have gotten, but I mean that as in no one can take insults anymore😭

[ripe topaz]

This generation is soft ash tho fr fr

[real ravine]

Yea on a real note

[nova nacelle]

honestly I'm to tired to continue with him, haven't felt this mentally exhausted for awhile even staying up with my cousins kids bottle feeding them and rocking them all day and night didn't drain me this bad

[ripe topaz]

And the boomer of the generation are soft too I reckon😂😂

[real ravine]

Personally I don’t really take insults to heart coz quite frankly I don’t care if people I don’t know like or dislike me but try explaining that to some people nowadays

[ripe topaz]

This guy really is hurt 💀

Bro is the Martin Luther king of the old gens😂😂☠️

Bro fr fighting for the old tens😂😂😂

[nova nacelle]

hurt no tired of dealing with people for today yes

[real ravine]

I will say that boomers are becoming soft too with how much they complain about the younger people. And I’m not even referring to piercy I’m just saying this coz that’s how my parents are and most of my mate’s parents too

[ripe topaz]

Then leave man no one asked for your opinion 💀

[real ravine]

I’m not trying to insult you or nothing either piercy I just thought you might’ve thought I was talking ab you haha

[ripe topaz]

I mean I’m not from this generation but I personally don’t give a sh*t if ur chill I’m chill with u

[nova nacelle]

never gave a opinion in the first place stated the facts but I'm going to go before you drag me into another stupid repeat of the same things being repeated

[ripe topaz]

Please let your self out sir quantavios the 3rd

[real ravine]

Yea exactly I’m not from this gen either I’m bouta be 19 but I have a little brother who is growing up through this gen so I can understand both sides

[nova nacelle]

<@&809827848620605492> I'd appreciate a mute for the next 3 hours before I lose my chance to get any sleep

[ripe topaz]

Wait I’m almost 21 does that mean we’re gen z or melenials?

[real ravine]

But thankfully my brother isn’t soft, if you give him crap he’ll give it right back😂

[marsh charm]

Go to sleep.