#communication

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obtuse iron
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#šŸ“Œannouncements

eternal tree
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They don’t directly answer the player base , this includes twitter (x) with Pedro … the only time any response is given is answering skin queries never when it’s to do with actual gameplay Wesson … every game post dev blogs but most games don’t lie on them. Every dev blog mentions fixing red X’s for example but it’s never fixed. So directing me to announcements isn’t really the answer.

eternal tree
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And I’m complaining with what they do. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

obtuse iron
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D11s a small team kekw

eternal tree
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And ignoring a large amount of your player base isn’t trying with what they’ve got, it’s purposefully ignoring them because they know they can’t deliver , if they was honest from the beginning and stopped saying one thing and doing another id have a lot more time for them .(a small team 2 plus years ago) if they hadn’t invested money made wisely and expanded their team that’s on them . It shouldn’t be an excuse, also Pedro is on twitter enough ti respond to irrelevant messages so again they trying is a terrible excuse.

eternal tree
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It isn’t accidentally is it šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

obtuse iron
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Sure

eternal tree
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Do you work for D11 ? Genuine question ? šŸ™‚

obtuse iron
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No, I never claimed I did

eternal tree
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I was only asking because I find it crazy you are able to answer every question anyone asks (correct or not is debatable) but they won’t answer 95% of questions. Now do you see why I find the communication non existent?

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Someone who doesn’t work for them has better communication about the game than the actually dev team .

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eternal tree
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You seem very emotional about someone posting/telling D11 something in the ā€˜tell d11’ page? Anyone who every try’s to post anything here is constantly bombarded with people who seem to be offended by players trying to get the best out of the game.

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obtuse iron
tough plover
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I'm not but I know when community serves came out 5 devs were in discord for about 2 weeks ....there's even one who's been posting his pets picture.....and pedro answered questions in here just do a search for his name

eternal tree
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I also remember when D11 said community servers would be out when the game came out šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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I’m guessing no one can post in here then because they are a small dev team that keep breaking promises. That’s fair šŸ™‚

tough plover
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Yeah I'd rather them be worth my money then crash constantly 🤷 carry on have a wonderful day.

eternal tree
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The games crashed for 2 years with or without community servers šŸ˜‚

eternal tree
# obtuse iron Life isn't fair

So very true !! Well I guess D11 might Aswell delete this discord as you both have made it clear it’s pointless trying to communicate with them šŸ™‚

obtuse iron
abstract bridge
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I agree for the most part. Yes occasionally Pedro or someone from D11 will be in one of the several different chat forums here between this discord and PTB but that’s hard for anyone to keep track of.

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Everyone on here asked about community servers 20 times a day and we just started getting more updates. The imaginary wall glitch has been around for months, no mention. People have been losing their minds about this holo bug. The community servers active right now were to be extended ā€œfor a couple days moreā€ and it’s been a month with no update when they will cut those off. No update when these new tests are happening. More communication helps your customer base know what to expect.

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The whole D11 is a small team excuse can only go so far. They either aren’t doing well enough as a company to afford to hire more help, or they are doing well enough but choose not to hire extra help aka being a little greedy with profits.

ripe urchin
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Nowhere in this discord does it state that it’s here to communicate with the Dev Team, it actually states you cannot tag D11 staff members for that reason, they are not paid to sit and talk in the Discord and if they choose not to speak to people it’s completely their prerogative

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D11 were very active and communicative back in the Closed Beta, then the Toxic People came, the abuse, the death threats, everything else, and people wonder why they don’t talk. You don’t deserve communication, you have no rights too it and it’s not what this Discord is for.

abstract bridge
# ripe urchin D11 were very active and communicative back in the Closed Beta, then the Toxic P...

Any customer buying a product deserves communication. They are running a business. Never said they had to communicate via discord LargeSmurf, but somehow. More frequent blogs, something. I really don’t care how long things take or about bugs it’s all expected but most people don’t have rational mentality on it. The communication channels they are using obviously aren’t working well or there wouldn’t be 50 posts the last couple days about the holo and whatever topic you want to pick.

tough plover
# abstract bridge Any customer buying a product deserves communication. They are running a busine...

It takes more then a week to patch a bug it's the same with all the games I play......2 weeks ago pedro was in discord during wipe he was chatting with players he was answering questions......then some servers came up and some didn't and in 30 minutes I watched players get so upset of server resets....which are a provider issue not a game issue, I watched discord go from a civil conversation to racial slurs being thrown at him......someone threatenedd his life....thr life of his wife kids to blow up D11.....50 pings to Mods in 30 minutes for it........he ended the day with WTH and they had to shut discord down.....this is why most communications are done through the announcements, discord Mods, or players who just don't understand how people can act this way over a game......like would you talk to your boss if he treated you this way? Or customers? Would you?

abstract bridge
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Well it might be in PTB off topic, or discussions, or main branch discussions, or the beach tab. Or the known bugs (which I just looked for and couldn’t find). Should be a consistent way to provide information.

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chrome venture
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i disagree, they should cut back on their updates from monthly and only update when theres an acutal update going through and patch notes are needed. oh they should also remove them from the title screen after updates, let people look the patchnotes up online themselves if they want to see them. you know like most other developers so with their games and communities.

abstract bridge
# tough plover It's a company of 300 sure they could do that....and then because they've focuse...

That blog could be typed up in 20 mins and there are mass email systems for $5/month. The rock glitch, the heavy pot, the horse invincible (largeblueman I know it technically wasn’t invincible). Any of the extremely frustrating things. Even if it’s an update we are working on it, rational people accept that and it would make their life easier because it would reduce the number or posts and questions on here.

chrome venture
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lmao no it wouldn't, there are hundreds of wens wipe questions every day and they have been on the same schedule for how long??

abstract bridge
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Every aspect of life is better with more/better communication. Relationship, work, sports, etc. You guys can have valid individual points but never going to convince me ā€œless communication is betterā€

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chrome venture
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have you set up a daily contqcg email with them all to keep them up to date with your daily business running.? or do you just give them a schedules update along the way

abstract bridge
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But it’s all good, you guys seem to think less communication is better. I disagree. If my wife and I have a disagreement we don’t give each other the silent treatment, we talk about it and things never escalate. That’s how things should be.

tough plover
# abstract bridge But it’s all good, you guys seem to think less communication is better. I disag...

No I like d11 for their communication I don't get it from other games.....I understand why they don't go in discord I've seen it it's horrible. If I want to find patch notes updates etc from dayz I gotta go to twitter or fb and find them 🤷 and they only answer questions when they do their hour stream before an update to showcase its.. we don't need that for rust because PTB showcases it. And if we've something going on with our server we run game wise....we go to discord and click on a report bugs link then wait for to see if it gets patched

dapper cairn
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coffeemug After reading this I am so lost.

regal zephyr
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Me personally, I think monthly dev blogs are enough. Anytime a dev talks in chat they get harassed or insulted.

rigid summit
rigid summit
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A marriage relationship and a game developers relationship with the community are not the same so don't kid yourself

ripe urchin
# abstract bridge Any customer buying a product deserves communication. They are running a busine...

That’s because people don’t know how to read, it’s not a failure in communication, it’s users general inability to either read something that is in front of them or use basic search functions.

People do not read, they do not bother to look, Pedro could type the same thing daily with updates about bugs and they would not read.

Communication is not changing and does not need to change. Monthly Dev Blogs are better the most AAA Companies.

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You literally claimed the wall bug had not been mentioned, that’s a failure to read or bother to search on your part shrug

ornate geode
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ornate geode
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Maybe the age restrictions change for different regions of the country. For the US it looks to be 17+

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ornate geode
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When horses were released there was a problem where you could loose sound. The D11 team asked for clips, asked for settings, and even sent out a survey. They worked diligently and resolved the issue. There is engagement.

tough plover
ripe urchin
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That would involve people reading instead of jumping to conclusions weSmart

coral vector
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People building in walls šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€ fix that pls😐

somber sluiceBOT
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If you're new here, consider checking out the #šŸ‘‹šŸ¼directory for a tour of the Discord, there's something for everyone.

eternal tree
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I don’t harass people just ask genuine questions and get frustrated when the only dev blogs come out state they’ve fixed something that isn’t fixed then ignore the issue untill the next dev blog that has the same lies on ? You can be upset reading this but that’s truth … 2 years the same bugs and cry all you like it’s a small dev team they chose to make the game if it’s too much of a challenge for them - sell up let A better team take over, you can’t expect people to send hugs and kisses when you’re made to wait 2 years for basic features such as red xs working , I love rust love playing and the game is sooooo much better than it was but that doesn’t mean it’s perfect and doesn’t mean it should have constructive criticism, reading most these replies it seems people think feedback is only allowed to be positive: which is crazy ….. ironically people saying why should they respond they get abused are abusing me saying I’m stupid a clown etc etc ….. maybe think before you guys reply ?

eternal tree
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crude otter
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bro how long did yall talk here bro

ornate geode
# eternal tree This issue had been in the game since day one and was ignored the whole time , t...

I posted in Tell D11 over and over when I had the boat glitch. One of them had over 1k comments until it was locked. I spoke about D11 holding their suppliers accountable as they may not be the direct cause of the problem they are still responsible for smooth gameplay. I went as far as predicting it would occur with horses, and I’m happy it did. With that being said I have an idea of how manpower allocation works for projects/implementations in a business. I believe it revealed itself at the right time for the team to address it.

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ripe urchin
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It't not a case of lying, sometimes it's miscommunication, or they think they have fixed a bug and it's not fixed, you call something a basic feature that may be super complicated to fix.

Criticism is allowed, however when you make up things people will respond, calling any bug simple shows you have no understanding of game development, 2 years with the same bug is nothing?

Starfield - Bugs from Skyrim which released 13 years ago - AAA Dev Team (Bethesda)
ARK - Bugs from Launch it never fixed - Released 2017 - Wild Card
Cyberpunk - Bugs from Launch it's never fixed - Released December 2020 - AAA Dev Team (CD Projekt Red)
AC - Shared the same bugs from Black Flag until Origins - 2013 - 2017 - AAA Dev Team (Ubisoft)
GTA - Multiple God Mode Glitches throughout it's lifespan, along with other bugs and glitches never fixed - Released 2013 - AAA Dev Team (Rockstar)

This is commonplace in every single game to have issues and bugs, bugs they also claim to fix in their even more limited communication then D11 fix. I can literally list hundreds of games if you want me too.

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ripe urchin
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Something i noted with the Red X bug, is that the patch brought out a fix for a type of tree, not all of them when the Dev Blog mentioned fixing it, this could just be simple miscommunication between Pedro and Developers

ornate geode
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tough plover
eternal tree
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eternal tree
# ornate geode It’s the other members of the discord that are replying not D11

My point was D11 never reply random discord members do … which I was told that isn’t true and was flooded with messages from discord members …. 2 years for a game to have bigs from day one is crazy … other games have bugs yes but they are addressed and fixed or they are called out for it and boycotted like titles above.

eternal tree
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tough plover
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Just search his name

eternal tree
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The only negative messages I see on here are people yelling at anyone that posts bugs or issues šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

tough plover
ornate geode
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tough plover
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The links for bugs as well as they check those first it's what they are for

ripe urchin
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Other games are famous for no communication and ignoring bugs, AAA Developers especially

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D11 communicate a lot more as a small company.

eternal tree
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Honestly I just will leave my opinions to myself far too many people getting us past or sending abusive messages which is not what I want for anyone, all I want is what’s best for the game but being unable to leave feedback tells me more than I need to know with the direction of rust console. Me personally to have bugs in a game for over 2 years and be told they’re fixed every month when they are not isn’t good enough. You don’t have to agree but it’s crazy to defend it. Il remove this post as iv seen a lot of people unhappy and causing issues between other users. I appreciate anyone trying to give constructive feedback.

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obtuse iron
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ripe urchin
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All the bugs you have mentioned D11 have communicated to us that they are aware and being worked on

ornate geode
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rigid summit
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rigid summit
# ornate geode Typical response. lol

If people wanna call shit easy then they can fix it themselves. 99% of the people that say shits easy don't even know how to code a simple sequence let alone a game

obtuse iron
eternal tree
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Never said it was easy …. But 2 years to not fix red xs is crazy … remove it if you can’t fix it ?

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eternal tree
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Invalids have improved drastically !! I think it’s amazing they have been attended to, but if you was to go back a few months anyone posting about invalids would be abused and told omg it’s not easy to fix !! Maybe it’s your internet … they’re trying they’re only a small team …..

obtuse iron
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# obtuse iron <@875125135789658153>

Stating things are fixed in dev blogs when they’re not , or saying updates are coming in the future with no concrete date so it could be a week could be 2 years ….

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# obtuse iron Holos were recently a issue

Agree so let’s just focus on the wall glitch when it’s destroyed but still showing on some screens. It’s been months and I don’t seen an announcement acknowledging it

rigid summit
obtuse iron
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If it was a easy glitch to fix it'd be patched already

ripe urchin
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ornate geode
# eternal tree It’s been on ptb for a while now

Wait so a known issue in a testing environment passed to main branch. That reminds me when everyone was complaining about the nodes being wrong then it hit main and the ā€œvolume increasedā€ and they made a change.

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tough plover
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Loads refuse to use the link 🤷

elder yarrow
# ornate geode Agree so let’s just focus on the wall glitch when it’s destroyed but still showi...

-wall not disappearing on some screens or upgraded structures being shown as a different tier i.e hqm wall but it shows like stone till I reset šŸ˜‚
-holo adjustment (maybe have an option if people want to keep the current vs previous holo)
-tree x’s
-continuous invalid improvement

those r the main 4 bugs I’ve only paid attention to recently. some r more persistent than others (only the holo one is new to me)

eternal tree
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Wasn’t known to D11 but everyone on here and twitter seemed to know , maybe if they communicated more with the player base they would know it’s been in the game for longer than a month . Most people don’t report because nothing gets done

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rigid summit
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Complaining and whinging and whining and carrying on like little children doesn't get an issue noticed. Reporting it doesfacepalm

eternal tree
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People try but people like you get angry and upset it’s weird

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# ripe urchin Wasn't known to D11.

It was reported - I know I reported it multiple times in tell d11 on test branch. I switch to test when large changes occur. It’s up to the team to see pay attention to them.

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rigid summit
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Lord give me strength

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rigid summit
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You know what, I'm leaving. Whateverfacepalm facepalm

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eternal tree
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Right finish up your chats guys because I am removing the message, good luck D11 fixing issues people won’t report because they know it’s either pointless won’t be noticed like Waldo thinks so or just straight abused for it

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ripe urchin
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#šŸ›report-bugs goes directly to QA

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ripe urchin
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for reference anyway, #1020958509157855333 needs checking, but #šŸ›report-bugs goes directly to the QA Team

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eternal tree
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Also the amount of money they’ve made from game sales alone let alone from skin sales is waaaay more than enough to invest in a bigger team.

rigid summit
# eternal tree Is 2 years ?

Like I said. Any big that's been in the game 2 years has progressively gotten worse, then better, then worse, then better. That's game development for you. The boat glitch isn't even d11s fault its Unitys I don't know what that's so hard to understand. And pc has the x glitch too

eternal tree
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100 people buying the Ā£25 coins in store is a lot of money imagine if this game had 1000s of players šŸ‘€

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You can't spend money just cause you have itfacepalm

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rigid summit
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facepalm I can't anymore. Hefty take over please otherwise I'm going to get in troublefacepalm

eternal tree
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Sorry my bad the game is perfect no issues what so ever heaven forbid if anyone would think so or even suggest ideas to help. šŸ™‚

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ripe urchin
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You also have to remember other expenses, they host over 1,400 servers a month, so factor in those costs, as well as wages etc

You also mentioned Skins money, PS/MS take a minimum of 20% of the Coins alone, before VAT 20% etc, Skins are not pure profit

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eternal tree
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Honestly good luck guys I’m sure other people will post here knowing what responses they get šŸ™‚

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