train/car

[sharp reef]

That's only available on PC for the time being

Have to wait for the old Gen consoles contract to run out before they even consider that

[shrewd sand]

Soon

With in the next year or 2

[vernal oak]

not accurate as old gen hasn't reached its maximum potential yet, I'm on both new gen and old

I still use both the original Xbox one and the series x

[sharp reef]

That many moving entities on one map. The XBOX One and PS4 would lag harder than they did on a maxed out Ark Survival server

[vernal oak]

never lagged on the original Xbox one except for when large oil was first released for the first couple days and for the series x only on ptb

[sharp reef]

Yes but when you factor in servers with 100 players, their bases, all of their loot, then add Cars and Trains moving about its going to eat up a lot of RAM, something the PS4 and XBONE don't really have a lot of

[vernal oak]

can't say anything about the playstation consoles

[vernal oak]

I'm always on Max pops to start out with till the pop dies out whether it dies or not I tend to stay even if the pop dies to a zerg offlining everyone

mainly because unlike others I don't quit easy its why I've been solo fighting a zerg for over 2 years now on console

which over half their zerg quit last Thursday because I punched a hole through their base with 9 rows of rockets but only got 2 guns because they despawned

was fed up with them trying to offline me on the daily so I decided to just send it

[sharp reef]

Hey I'm just saying the old generation consoles don't have the processing power to accommodate trains, cars and helis.. it's simply not feasible

[vernal oak]

I can see it being possible to do it all but it would take a long time

although I'd rather them not add trains and cars but I'm fine with helis and subs

[sharp reef]

At the very most the old gens could possibly tolerate the Ziplines and maybe Underwater Labs

[shrewd sand]

He has a point here old gen doesn’t have the hardware to keep up with all those high fps demanding updates it doesn’t matter how many times it’s trying to be justified it can’t

[vernal oak]

underwater labs and artic research base are my 2 favorite monuments I run on pc and the only ones they have left to add that I actually want added anyways

[shrewd sand]

Once the contract ends we will get whole lot of updates 😁

[sharp reef]

^^ the flood gates will open

[pseudo halo]

I had a one s it was awful less powerful then a one x

[vernal oak]

that's what people keep saying but it'll be a long long time before that happens and since rce I'd playable on both old and new gen don't expect it to happen anytime in the next few years I have no problem with old gen or new gen

strangely enough though old gen has no trouble with ptb while new gen does

[sharp reef]

Contract runs out at the end of 2023 I believe

[shrewd sand]

Yep

[vernal oak]

and where's the source as most people saying it aren't legitimate sources

[pseudo halo]

Everyone on new gen hopes

[pseudo halo]

True

[vernal oak]

not everyone as I'm new gen nowadays and I don't

[pseudo halo]

I dont either

[shrewd sand]

They literally signed a 2 year contract with ps and Xbox which inturn would mean it ends at the end of this year

But that doesn’t mean they won’t sign another

[vernal oak]

I wouldn't mind if over 95% of the playerbase was new gen but rn I don't believe no more than 40% is new gen

[pseudo halo]

Ps5s were hard to get for the longest time

[vernal oak]

same for the series x&s during covid lockdown due to the computer chip shortages

[shrewd sand]

Most likely they will keep old gen but not give it as much updates as new gen like it will still be there just not

[sharp reef]

And now you can walk in any store and walkout with one

[pseudo halo]

I got a x in March 2021 luckily

[manic salmon]

I'd like to see proof that you've seen this document.

[urban dock]

These rust addicted goblins will definitely buy a ps5 or xbox one if you force them. Rust is life for them

[vernal oak]

yeah except due to the constant rise of inflation very few people nowadays can afford it

[shrewd sand]

Twitter 😁

[manic salmon]

[shrewd sand]

Probably old but you will find it

[vernal oak]

I got mine about 6-7 months after the series x dropped to the public

[shrewd sand]

Go to @rustconsolsedition twitter page scroll down mad far you will find it

[vernal oak]

you do realize Twitter has more false information than real right same goes for people going to TT for information both sources are highly unreliable

[shrewd sand]

Bro they said it them selfs

[pseudo halo]

Tt isn't a news source people

[vernal oak]

agreed

[vernal oak]

I've been reading all their posts since the games launch and haven't seen anything about it

[shrewd sand]

Comments 😂

[pseudo halo]

Comment's aren't news

[vernal oak]

but I'll scroll back later today I may not own a Twitter but I do check it via links

[manic salmon]

Talk about a rabbit hole and a half

[vernal oak]

comments aren't news especially if it's not a reply from a dev

no wonder never seen it it was never mentioned

[vernal oak]

btw checking on my tablet rn while on my phone the person that mentioned about the contract was just a random not even connected to d11 in anyway

[shrewd sand]

No offense but I’m not going to keep running around in circles with this you guys will see it don’t matter how much you don’t wanna believe it but it will happen ✌️

[vernal oak]

so unless this random has inside information it's highly unreliable and unlikely to have any credibility

[vernal oak]

just scrolled back to the very first post on their Twitter from the website and not a single thing mentioned by anyone from d11 about them cutting out old gen only comment there was about it was a random with no ties to d11

[wispy drum]

huh first of all the contract for rust old gen is ending soon

[vernal oak]

even if a contract ends it tends to get renewed and there's no information from d11 about it getting cut off entirely so the contract will likely just be renewed information from randoms isn't always credible people tend to forget that it's why I always check for information from the developers themselves

[simple panther]

The game was originally created for PS4 and Xbox one and for now that's our focus 🙂

From Pedro in public test branch discord

On Sept the 11th under the tell d11 tab train yard sub tab

[vernal oak]

ty, you saved me alot of time searching

but yeah that proves my point even further thanks to cher

[simple panther]

No worries

[lost hinge]

Tunnels would be a great addition. Good for beginners and another form of transportation

[charred scarab]

That's not true at all please don't spread misinformation

[charred scarab]

People used to say the exact same about cargo

[charred scarab]

Noone knows as that's not public information. Nore does the end of the contract mean old gen will be dropped

[sharp reef]

Old generation is at max capacity with what's available now anymore additions will exacerbate their processors to near meltdown

[charred scarab]

Again. No proof, no evidence, no game design history, no knowledge on the subject. Just things you've heard others say

[sharp reef]

34 years of gaming experience and 25 in computer engineering 😶

[charred scarab]

Gaming experience doesn't equate to game development and computer engineering doesn't either

That's like saying I'm gorden ramsey cause I ate at his kitchen

[sharp reef]

No but CompEng does equate to knowing what the old gens are capable of... if a game like Minecraft can stress a PS4Pro to emergency shutdown, which I've had happen before, the complexities of Helis, Trains and cars would make the processor handgrenade

They can barely handle maxed out Ark Survival servers and DayZ servers who run off of technology a cellphone can run

[charred scarab]

Cars and trans travel no fast then horses and only count as one entity per carage

People like you said cargo would never work and it works perfectly fine

[sharp reef]

It's not the travel that's the issue it's the quantity on a single server, say a max pop server has 3 cars per every 1 player.. that's 300 cars it has to load in simultaneously with their bases, their storage boxes and all of their loot... thatll stress the hell out of the old systems.. they physically can't handle it

[charred scarab]

No server has that many cars not even pc

[sharp reef]

Yeah but with custom servers it's a possibility and you know kids when they play MORE IS MORE 🤦‍♂️

[charred scarab]

No that's ridiculous. Not even on 100x servers on pc do you see 300 cars

[sharp reef]

Console players don't know limitations like PC players do, they'll push to see how much they can get away with

I've seen it

[charred scarab]

Then they'll push those limits and have a server crash whoopdeedoo. They'll learn just like pc players had to. It's their own stupid fault if they're going around spawning in hundreds of cars

The game itself has a limit on how many vehicles spawn. If any spawn more then that it's the admins stupid fault for spawning them in

Your argument is baseless and flawed. You're trying to say that something can't be added because people will spawn too much of it in. Under the parameters set by the development team they would be fine. It's not a matter of if they can implement it rather when. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard people say something can't be implement cause of old gen and now it is

[urban dock]

Never have I seen someone try so hard

Its actually cute

[lost hinge]

The tunnels would be awesome

[primal raptor]

No cap tunnels is a most D11 you heard hope you see our wishes sometimes

[lost hinge]

[lost hinge]

[flint quail]

A lot of the playerbase are new gen imo

[vernal oak]

I'm both new gen and old but over 2/3 of all players I meet are old gen

[flint quail]

Fo you play on low pop servers

Most low pop servers under 70 players are old gen because their consoles can’t handle 100 pops with Zerg bases

[vernal oak]

I tend to play on high pops but remain on them till they die out

once the pops dead I either try to repop it or wait till I'm offlined

[primal raptor]

most high pops arent that high pop like you can claim (3 days of lifetime on most due to the offliners)

[vernal oak]

yeah most high pops on console tend to only last for 3 weeks before they start dying out

[primal raptor]

Not even 3 weeks bro

[simple panther]

Like week 1

[primal raptor]

Most are dead by day 3/4

[lost hinge]

Trains or Tunnels are a must

[nocturne current]

rust can run on 8 gb of ram on pc.

[sharp reef]

Yes but PCs also have way more powerful processors, a PS4 Pro uses a processor that's nearly 15 years old

Severely outdated tech

[nocturne current]

i can run rust pc 30 fps on a school chromebook

[nocturne current]

but i get it

[charred scarab]

Yeah if you like 10 fps and freeze frames. It requires 16gb of ram just to get 60 fps