It's a little infair that Playstation got delayed for 4 hours orsmt and Xbox had som time to do raid/ loot people that where sleeping on the road with alot off loot/ loot free monument with no counters. while the majority wasn't even online because off they're delay so in my opinion just turn the server back in time an bit before the reboot would make alot off people happier and make it an bit fair for what most players have lost @glacial belfry
#Unfair for Playstation players that they may have lost alot off loot/base because off the delay
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Life is unfair
I agree but life is real life and rust is an game and an game can be made fair
Sonys fault not d11
But D11 can fix what Sony coudnt
wipes on the 25th rebuild
What do we do now ay
Rebuild
People where still playing the game and enjoying with they're bases
not xboxs fault
On 12 day on wipe orsmt
then play a weekly
So you think its fair for the xbox players that grinded 4 hours to take all their loot away again.. hmm
if it was the other way around would you want a roll back?
Well do u think it's fair for other players to lose an week worth off loot to an fault off Sony
I am playstation my friend
i know i meant if xbox didnt get it til 4 or 5 hrs later
Yeah but they cant keep both party’s happy with the way u wanted it. No way they roll back cuz of an playstation error
Ofcorse I would like if it is fun raiding offline people and looting people on the ground it's an little unfair
If i was xbox and played for 4 hours and they rolled it back i would be more pissed then someone looting my body cuz i was sleeping on the road
Sonys fault
They just cant keep both consoles happy with this playstation error
And it was the playstation having trouble. So why should the xbox players get hurt by that
d11 got the patch out some where do the line sony bumbled it
And i understand its annoying if you lost something cuz of it but thats life..
Like I got lucky and didn't lose anything but som did and Xbox players may not have done anything som just went by they're day and farm but 4 hours for som players are alot like stone bases and upkeep transport loot Sony messed alot off players up
I think they wouldn't turn it back ir they may because like this is late into wipe alot off clans are fighting and waiting for 1 to get offline so they have an chance to offline them and this was the perfect opportunity for and Xbox player in an clan to raid alot off players without them fighting back while they could have been on
sony issue
It's just my opinion what they do about it is they're choice what ever they may do 1 off the 2 consoles will be mad about it and at this moment alot off ps players are
At the end off the day soon everything will wipe and u will have to restart anyways Sony just messed up alot off people not really anything we've done could fix it
My base almost decayed because of this 🥶🥶
I almost lost 200 Hqm and 24 computers
I was transporting som loot from hiden stashes and forgotten the reboot
Xbox are their favourite console that’s why PlayStation get a million invalid shots but Xbox don’t
Dont need a rollback
xbox had the same problem happen more than once if they did a rollback for playstation but not xbox it wouldn't be a fair setting for the playerbase had countless times I was raided due to xbox servers being down by playstation players just because playstation has had it happen 1 or 2 times isn't that big of a deal you can manage just like I managed I'm a solo and I don't quit
why am I not surprised this is still going on
that's not true as xbox has had far more server outages than playstation and we've never gotten a rollback playstation has only had it happen once or twice since release while it's been several times for xbox
I'm sorry but xbox had to go through the same situation and had countless times playstation used the opportunity of xbox servers being down to offline other xbox players while they couldn't even log on
autocorrect gets annoying lol
At this points why even dother typing back
because if I got time to respond to a question or someone talking to or about me it's only respectful to reply when available
So what I am reading and my head is processing xbox had the same problem once or twice and they did nothing
If I knew that I wouldn't vind it that unfair
it's happened multiple times for xbox it happened once or twice for ps
Dang
Best you can hope for now is D11 to have a plan they can implement in the future if this reoccurs. Things happen then we learn and plan. You may have lost everything but they are not going to change that.
Its not d11s fault its sonys
I know it wasn’t D11’s fault but D11 has to deal with all of the backlash from the community. They want feedback and they want to keep us informed and happy to the best of their ability. They have options to pause the servers, roll them back, or whatever other actions they have. I am referring to the next time something like this occurs not this instance. Have confidence they have a plan in place.
They did indeed have backlash to the point where they had to lock the discord down.. imagine if both consoles couldn’t play it would be chaos idk if that’s something they want to deal with.
Outages occur more often than you think but usually don’t affect as many players. Only 8 hours in a server just after wipe the server went down for 24 hours. That was painful.
they shouldnt have to pause or roll back servers tho
Regardless of what console gets delayed. The servers should be kept offline until both can update the game. If this continues ppl will start playing less cross play on rust and split the player base
Or only do update the last Thursday of the month during downtime
Downtime would be much longer and I can’t see them doing that unless it was a problems with the game. It wasn’t in there side so they’re not going to shut the game down..
no its not fair one side has to wait
due to something outsides d11 control
@static prism so you'd rather be selfish and impatient. Ok bud.
This happened to xbox ps didnt wait before
What if it was 40 hours in stead of 4. Would your answer be different? Most PlayStation bases would have decayed even on PS only servers.
happened mutiple times to us
I dont care who it happens to just delay the update or add them when monthly resets and we all have to wait half hr
sony issue happened to mutiple of they games
@lucid orbit 40hrs is extreme plus they can roll back servers 40 hrs also they could just not push the update
wwe 2k23 i forgot a few others
If it was an Xbox problem and lasted 40 hours your words would be different
Dude I'd happily wait. I'm not 12 years old! But it wouldnt be 40hrs!
All I am saying is have confidence that the D11 team is creating a plan of action
Just an example in the mean time servers are active and bases are melting
i play other games im not on rust all day
@lucid orbit exactly. Only updating on server wipe would help
You would have a base when you got back on 40 hours later
i put more then enough in my base all the time
Close servers until confirmation from both Sony and Xbox
its not decaying im respond able
My base usually only holds 24 hours
Would matter by then all the Sony players have raided you
tons of ppl just mess about dont full tc and situations like a few days ago happen they base decays
i dont care rust isnt my whole life
i play other games
The main problem was it was mid wipe. If it was a fresh wipe and you got in 4hr last not as bad imo
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rust is tons of people only game they play and are on everyday 10 plus hrs a day its sad
🤣
i dont get mad when i get offlined when i awake from slumber i say oh well and rebuild
🤣
its true
Ok buddy
no point in getting mad its a game
Ok buddy
Ok buddy
ok buddy
Ok buddy

Lol I only do that when people don’t contribute they resort to talking down about others and saying it’s just a game. Ask yourself how are you helping the author…
I am adding things
xbox shouldnt be forced to wait bc of sony you know it same vice versa
Absolutely they should. All cross play servers should be locked until confirmation has been received that updates are being pushed out.
I think the author just lost a kit when there was down time and now he's crying about ut
Absolutely they should. All cross play servers should be locked until confirmation has been received that updates are being pushed out.
No its not xboxs fault
where were you when it happened to xbox saying that?
Who said it was 🤣
I didn’t know it happened but I feel the same way if it was Xbox
Im just saying sony did it
You are stuck on repeat
its true research it
It’s not going to happens unless it’s on D11s end.
D11 will take action next time
Research what.. that it is a game, it’s not D11 fault, it’s Sony’s fault, that it has happened to Xbox before…I know all of those are true.
They won’t lol
i was they when xbox did it did i blame d11?
dont need to sony messed up
Who blamed D11?
Try reading what I type 🤷♂️
Have confidence
I am confident they won’t
Ok
Im asking when it happened to xbox did i blame d11?
You are asking me if you blamed d11 when it happened to Xbox-how should I know. I’m asking you who is blaming D11
What point are you trying to get across? They will not shut servers down. Just let this post slide down the charts now. If you posted this the day it happened they even would have deleted this post.. you just lucked out with timing.
I’m waiting for Coco to answer where I am blaming D11. I never said that and it’s not their fault.
Okay then you never blamed them. Conversation over lmao. I’m sure he cares less.
His point is the fact that you think d11 should shut there game down for Sonys problems isn’t going to happen bc its not they’re problem. Idk what u don’t understand.
unfortunately I see it's another one of those people wanting d11 to shut servers down for what happened on Sonys end again
well ttyal
Wait I understand completely. I said D11 can take action they could lockdown cross play servers, they could roll back the cross play servers, and I’m sure there are other actions they could take. All of those are facts. My opinion is that they should shut down crossplay if this happens again.
I only play PS servers so it didn’t affect me, but I never said it was D11’s fault
You clearly don’t understand because they are not going to lockdown cross plat servers.. it’s not there problem so they won’t let that effect them.
Your just regurgitating you irrelevant opinion.
In my opinion D11 has a product that it is their responsibility to ensure fair gameplay. I fully expect them to take action next time this occurs.
We’ll unfortunately you’ll be let down because unless it’s on they’re end they won’t do that.
There is a difference in it not being their problem and I’m then not causing it. Oh it was their problem to fix 100%. And they did that by contacting Sony just as Pedro said.
Read what I type. D11 has the ability to ensure fair gameplay by taking actions. One of those possible actions is to lockdown crossplay. They have the ability- it’s their choice.
Only point is that D11 has the ability to ensure fair gameplay is that true?
Your correct they do have the ability. Will they do this? No. They already took action. They won’t pause they’re game for everyone else that can and wants to play for who knows how long..
So like I said your regurgitating the same irrelevant responses and opinion.
My only point is that D11 has the ability to ensure fair gameplay
Deal with it stop being such baby what are you gonnna do when your kicked out the house and homeless nobody is gonna give you sympathy. Plus its gonna be unfair for the xbox player as well.
Okay congratulations you’ve stated the obvious. Yes the dev team has that ability…
Like what are you on about…
And the mods said they most likely cant cause it would be unfair to the xbox players
Sony caused it D11’s actions didn’t prevent unfair crossplay and I believe that D11’s actions will be different if there is a next time.
Lol that D11’s actions next time will be different. Obviously that is my opinion
Do you not understand that they’ve already stated they won’t shut the game down for everyone?
That will not take different actions and if that’s been stated by the dev team I’d love to see the screenshot.
Show me where I blamed D11…
Your just trying to argue kid. Just stop talking no one is agreeing with you.
I agree with him
Not only see you wrong about half the things you says your opinion is completely irrelevant.
D11 cant do anything
Is there another option…again if it was 20 hours do you think that D11 would take no action?
Leave it alone lmfaoo
It would be unfair to xbox players plus you were probably gonna get offlined if you did 😂
Happens for more the 2x the amount of time for Xbox than it did for Sony.. they did nothing
Wrong they have the ability Nate even agreed with me. 🙂
Even the mods said they really cant rollback cause of xbox players already did stuff.
Yes the dev team has many ability’s… they won’t do it tho
And shame on them for not ensuring fair gameplay
You have to be the most fried kid I’ve argued with.. this is ridiculous.
So if this happens again in your opinion D11 will take zero action to ensure fair gameplay?
Yall being so salty it already happened and they would have rollbacked that same day but they chose not to cause of xbox players progression.
They took the most reasonable action by contacting Sony and sharing that with everyone… that’s all they should do.
Do you think they would make the same decision if they could go back?
I’d it’s on d 11s end then yes they should stop it
No matter the downtime?
100% bc it won’t be down for 20 hours sony is a big company whether or not it’s them or Xbox it’ll be taking care of in a timely matter you kids just don’t have patience
No cause like Ive said alot of times xbox players already progressed and did stuff then all the xbox players would get mad and they would have to wipe all servers early which will make updates weird and monthly players would get mad it would end up a whole argument.
Like why would they make a already big problem that was not there fault in any way and turn that into a massive problem for everyone that is now on there end.
It’s a stupid idea and it’s not going to happen. Your i titled the your opinion but it’s simply not going to happen..
They won’t rollback
Exactly
Kids don’t have patience-when my only point is that D11 can take action 🤣
Is there another action they can take? Maybe don’t reopen the servers until confirmation from Sony and Xbox that updates are being sent
I’d that’s your only point then why are we still going over this.. yes the Dev team can take action. That doesn’t mean they will…
Nate try giving a positive solution instead of just shooting everything else down…
Like why would the dev team not have access to that no one’s arguing with you about that
Your point is you want them to take actions. The facts are it won’t happen..
You talking out of your butt
You can’t do it 🤣 just try bringing a solution to the table
Future events are not facts 😂😂🤣
They’ve already stated they won’t
It is indeed a fact
Just take the L on the chin it’s not going to happen
Show me where they stated they would never take action. Look who is talking out their butt
Proof they said it?
Bruh the <@&809827848620605492> stated this when servers were down tf are you talking about
Nate says that D11 will never take action if PS or Xbox is online and the other is not
As it pertains to the previous incident from yesterday, there will be no rollback as far as I've been told. I have no insight to future events. I'd hope they'd reconsider for future events, but I have nothing official from the devs.
Are they taking action to prevent or monitor these things in the future. If the outage was let’s say over 24 hours do you believe the same actions would take place?
How would they know if it’s not on there side? They don’t work for Sony nor Xbox
That I cannot say one way or another. I haven't heard anything back yet on this.
The entire community was telling them and multiple people at D11 and discord mods have consoles 🤣
How would they be able to monitor this in the future other than finding out the same way as anyone else would is what I’m saying clearly they will be told by the community
Thank you - you answered in your first comment “you’d hope they would reconsider in future events” thanks.
I have explained it multiple times. If this occurs during a wipe, the servers are locked, until confirmations of downloads have begun.
This guys can not be wrong it’ll be the death of him😂 he’ll just keep rephrasing as if we didn’t understand him the first time. And I can guarantee you that they won’t shut there servers down
If it occurs outside of a wipe, the same actions can be taken, the servers are locked until downloads have begun
Where have they ever said this would happen?
You have no idea what you talking about you just wish to be right
There hasn’t been one person on here that agrees with you
Try suggesting a solution.
You already agreed that the 11 has the ability to do it which state is true someone has to agree with me then it would be over 🙂
You can ramble on repeatedly no one wants this and I can guarantee it won’t happen
What is a solution that you suggest?
WHY TF would the DEV TEAM no have access to shutting there servers down.. that’s the dumbest arguement your pushing no one would ever say that’s not the case..
Try to be positive what is a solution that guarantees fair gameplay?
Ah but my hopes and their actions are often different.
OK buddy, what do you suggest for ensuring fair gameplay?
This kid just can see anyone else’s perspective but his own
Sometimes a little influence is all it takes. I know it’s not your decision and this is my first experience of the event so I know it’s rare.
Can you make a suggestion for fair gameplay?
🤞
There’s nothing unfair about what took place … the only thing that would be considered unfair is to prevent everyone wipe to be a few hours or a day shorter.
I’m referring to cross play servers only I know you believe it is unfair. That certain players can access the server while others cannot. My question is if this happens again what is your suggestion for D 11?
Again your wrong. I do not believe that situation was unfair. It’s happened before and there was not roll back or pause in servers. Therefore. The situation repeated itself. My suggestion for D11 is to continue doing a great job at what they have been doing. As they already have a lot on there plate. I think contacting the console team is the best decision. There’s not need to pause there gameplay and effect everyone wipe rather than just ps/or Xbox players
We are going to have to agree to disagree about the unfair gameplay, but I understand your point about it not being unfairly because no action was taken in the past so why should there be action now. 👍
Which is exactly why it’s unfair. If you agree with that point I made you agree with it being fair this go around… on top of it not being d11s problem it would unfair for d11 to have to turn it into there problem by holding everyone from playing the game when they already have heaps on there plate.
I know their plate is full, but when half of the players (guessing) are locked out of the game I’m sure it escalates within D11 to address. It was not D11’s fault
Outages happen on both platforms at different times
If you go through #📌announcements it's seems xbox players had more unexpected outages then PlayStation since release
@lucid orbit @true matrix so you can stop the debate
❤️gladly
No cause then it would just have more people talking in chat and could take longer
Ok buddy
Pls don’t make him start again lmao
🤪
Lol
God forbid ps gets an outage
It’s my first time
So this unfair shit Is just that
It is absolutely unfair that crossplay servers only allows one console user to be online when these things happen.
All information taken from #📌announcements and #📢𝐒𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐞𝐫-updates
I play PS only
I believe you
Blame the platforms
Omg here we go again - Nate tell Town I didn’t blame D11 🤣
But D11 won't do anything to punish the other for the others mistakes
So you are saying D11 has the ability but chooses not to ensure fair gameplay aka punishment.
You just gotta take the L on the chin brotha
If PlayStation has an issue they won't punish xbox players
If xbox has an issue they won't punish PlayStation players
No L I didn’t loose anything non my PS only server
Regardless of how unfair it seems its just a game
I would honestly just not waste the effort he’ll never understand anyone’s perspective but his own he’ll continue to reiterate himself..
So you agree D11 is not responsible for ensuring fair gameplay on their game?
They did they can't punish players for the platforms mistakes
Hypothetically, if the issue would have been two days instead of four hours, do you think D11’s actions would be different?
I provided enough proof above xbox has had more down time then PlayStation
Not answering the question
No as out of d11 control
So you are saying PS players need downtime because Xbox has had ample….
Could they have locked servers and rolled them back?
No as people playing on them
They do but unfair for those that could play
Okay
@lucid orbit I’m sure you know the dev team “could” do just about anything you want doesn’t mean they will
Idk why your asking “could they?” They clearly can but that doesn’t mean it’s fair
When it happens again you think it would be the same action - which is really no action just push the platform to fix the problem
Platforms fault not d11 or the player base
Who said it was D11 fault 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The answer is no the actions won’t be different…
I trust that D11 believes in continuous improvement and someone somewhere in the D11 world is thinking improvements.
They most definitely are unfortunately it’s not on d11s side so with this situation there’s nothing d11 needs to do. They’ve already don’t they’re best and informed both us and the console team.
May not be the answer your looking for but that’s the reality.
It’s not about what they need to do but taking no action doesn’t seem to be a great option. One solution is they can lock crossplay servers until they have confirmation that updates are being pushed out. I don’t know if that would solve all previous problems where certain consoles were not logging in but it would have prevented the unfairness in the most recent incident.
They did take action they contacted sony. That’s all they will do. Why do you feel the need to repeat yourself as if we haven’t had this conversation over and over they’re not going to lock down servers it’s happened many times. It’s not there fault so they’re not going to stop they’re game because of a 3rd party problem.
Life can be unfair sometimes sorry bud
You’ve had just about everyone on this post including discord mods explain this to you and you still feel the need to repeat yourself when will you just give up?
The first mod said he hopes different actions would be taken next time
No he said he hopes they’ll reconsider. He also said his hopes and there actions are completely separate
I’m aware I can read
So we don’t know what D11 will do if this happens again we can only predict and look at past actions
You can hope all you want I’m willing to make a bet on skins for 5 separate drops that there will be no different actions taken if the situation takes place again
As it’s happened many times before im sure they have the same routine
Most likely protocol to them at this point with how many times it’s happened
Based on D11’s previous lack of action you are confident that they will allow unfair gameplay. Man it’s been rough for you. I didn’t even know it happened the other times and based on the dates in announcements I was playing the game
Serious question at ya-do you play Xbox only servers?
I played both cross plat and Xbox only servers. You can say it’s unfair all you like no one agrees with this statement. Not even the staff.
Yes they do everyone knows it’s unfair
This is crazy in what world is it fair that Xbox can play on a crossplay server for 4 hours but PlayStation cannot. No matter why it’s unfair.
So why does this post not have hundreds of yeses and ⬆️s
If everyone agrees? Why has no one sided with you?
Because it’s not fair that it has happened to Xbox multiple times and PlayStation only once
It was less than 2 hours tf you mean and it’s been the same on xboxs side many times
Like I said
That is what is unfair
If everyone agrees with you why hasn’t anyone here sided with you?
The mod said it was unfair but not D11’s fault 🤣 I never said it was
See
You mean this?
The simple facts is you won’t let yourself be wrong. You simple can’t handle it. You need a solution your way or the highway. The reality it it won’t happen whether you like it or not.
You can go ahead and agree to disagree with me but you can’t argue this further all you do is reiterate and clearly no one is siding with you
I don’t know how to copy it
Reply
Town at 502 responding to me saying it was unfair
Do t have a side
Great another person that says it’s just a game when I’m talking about D11 a company 🤣
If I say seems like rain does it mean its raining
Do you consider fair gameplay when one console can play and another cannot?
Where’s @static prism we need his bluntness in the convo
He liked my “ok buddy”
That would be the consoles issue
I’m asking for your opinion
Do you consider it to be fair gameplay?
Clearly you both don’t share opinions
Is it fair PlayStation can play the last of us and xbox can't
Last question if you answer yes or no
Absolutely not fair
But is that the player's fault or the consoles fault as in sony Microsoft
I can’t speak to the previous “outages” but the most recent one is 100% Sonys fault. They caused the delay and D11 along with the Mods felt the pain.
Can you answer my question? Do you consider fair gameplay when one console can play and another cannot?
And d11 have a responsibility to keep the server up for those who can play regardless of the platforms faults
Whether is fair or not it’s not d11s problem to go and shut the whole game down
I answered you. Do you consider fair gameplay when one console can play and another cannot?
🤦🏽♂️I can’t with this guy
You brought it up that no one was siding with me so I’m directly asking town
No matter his yes or no let’s see what is said
Clearly he’s not siding with you either..
Yes it's fair as they can play because they got the update
I don’t want a said just asking for his opinion
Just to clarify I am specifically talking about crossplay servers only
Yes it's fair when PlayStation can play if Microsoft has an outage
On crossplay
Any server any game
Okay I disagree in this instance
D11 put server's up for players to join if they can't because the platform is having an issue they won't punish the people who can play
Let’s go ahead and end this debate like that 😉
You say punish I say fair - okay
I’m very surprised it not locked yet
@lucid orbit you took a solid L on the chin buddy I got hopes you can handle that
Life's not fair
Wait not yet town - let’s talk about sound glitch 🤪🤪🤪
One goal is to have more comments on this post that the pc box storage pinned post 😏
I'm going through a tunnel s..o...r......r.....y
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Lol
That’s honestly the saddest thing you’ve said yet
But thanks for joining town
I’m supposed to be building on a weekly PS only of course
❤️ Nate
Okay I rest my case. L. Hold this for me while I’m sure you’ll sit here and continue to try and argue the same case you’ve been shutdown for repeatedly. I over this post won’t be back.
Still ❤️
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Solution : move to Xbox 
Based on the information town and Nate provided that is a terrible idea as there is more downtime on Xbox.
So unfair
What's going on here