anticheat

[stone harness]

recently call of duty launched its anti cheat system (rycochet)
I wanted to know if there is a way to copy it for rust or buy the antihack
vote Please

[bright zodiac]

There is not a way to copy or buy it, but they could make their own. The issue is that D11 is a very small company

[stone harness]

yes but it has to be solved somehow

[exotic badger]

From what I am reading as well it’s not really working either

[stone harness]

If nothing really can be done, they should change the recoil to that of PC

[fluid breach]

Not going to help cheaters will just counter the change

[torn horizon]

but puts them on the same page as everyone else

[fluid breach]

For awhile yes

[torn horizon]

longer then a while because new scripts on the new recoil will never have the same effect again

[fluid breach]

Fair point

[topaz tundra]

It will only help the legit players to have a chance against the scripters but MnK will still have a huge advantage. And I don't like aimcone pc have now, its too rng. I enjoy the current recoil, and I like that it is challenging but they need to soon figure out something about all the cheaters cause the game isn't really funny anymore when you can't compete

[exotic badger]

Gives the ability to create something closer to an aimbot on Console

[torn horizon]

how so?

[torn horizon]

it actually levels out against them also if you get chance to try controller on pc

[exotic badger]

Because there is barely any/no recoil it gives the ability to deadfocus the targetting and create something more closer to aimbots

[torn horizon]

nope because the bloom stops that from happening

[exotic badger]

hm they may be able to make counter to the bloom

[torn horizon]

to counter bloom would require the changing of game files which a script cant do

[torn horizon]

pc is possible due to the third party apps which do that

[exotic badger]

there will be ways to try circumvent something, i don't see the PC Recoil Changes making any difference, same way D11 have probably looked at it

[torn horizon]

script wise a big difference if you look at pc script videos now shots dont land on top of each other like they do with the current recoil but also levels the playing ground between stick and mouse

[exotic badger]

PC has less focus on Scripts because of bots/hacks, it won't make a difference either to MnK except make it easier for them to dominate controller players, i just don't see enough positives

[topaz tundra]

Mnk will still have a huge advantage whit precision and the range of movement, you can't keep up whit a controller

[torn horizon]

mnk will always be an issue same as scripts but the new recoil does level out and you can control it same as mouse with controller

[exotic badger]

without testing it on a controller you can't make that claim tbh

[torn horizon]

i have tried it on controller tho?

[bright zodiac]

Pc players preferred the old recoil, so why should we change it?

They have been banning since beta

[topaz tundra]

Need proof and they can't detect the device so whitout them showing it in a video using it they can't ban. There sadly isn't much proof in a simple report someone saying "this guy tripple headshot me 300m away, hes cheating". I wish they could collect data and learn the differences between legit and cheaters

[wooden osprey]

can copy it and u see how its for call of duty means only for call of duty

[torn horizon]

Recoil
The old recoil system in rust had some issues. It was loved by some, and hated by others.

If you didn't have hundreds if not thousands of hours practicing the recoil in rust, Firing at people in the game would often feel like attempting to align two like poled magnets. Frustrating would be an understatement.

Ultimately, being good at first person shooters and having the drop on someone wasn't good enough. If the other person had thousands of hours of training their aim you stood very little chance.

This was fun for people who could spend thousands of hours training their aim, or morally bankrupt individuals who would choose to use scripts to gain an advantage. This was not fun for 99% of the population, and it's time for a change.

[stone harness]

Correct

[bright zodiac]

It took 3 hours for me to learn every spray. There’s a reason everyone preferred the old recoil

[torn horizon]

but your still stating EVERYONE when not everyone did

[bright zodiac]

The vast majority. Please name creators that prefer the new recoil

[dreamy salmon]

Pc recoil is boring to watch and play its a lose lose when everyone is a beamer🥱

[torn horizon]

So everyone should use a tpd to be on the same page?

[torn horizon]

What has crators got to do with it do players opinions not count?

[bright zodiac]

They haven’t done a survey, so creators are the only people who’s opinion you can know

[noble thicket]

The real way for now that D11 can combat cheating is to regularly change the recoil for a wipe or two. Keeping coders on their toes. It will also help provide good data to help learn how to end the plague once and for all. People will complain whatever they do so they just need to knuckle down and do something. Simply ignoring it and banning even mentioning it isn’t helping anyone

[bright zodiac]

It is a lot easier to change a script, than for legit players to learn a new recoil. This would only harm legit players

[noble thicket]

Who cares. I don’t. I just want the game to be free of cheaters. I’m not bothered about posting tik toks of my spray. IMO the recoil should be totally random every bullet fired. I couldn’t care less about how many hours I or anyone else dumps into the small % of the actual game PVP really is. Cheaters are completely ruining the experience.

[bright zodiac]

Random recoil would be awful. It’s not that hard to kill scripters. Either fight close range, flank them, or learn the spray from long range

[noble thicket]

Or not have them in the game whatsoever so I don’t have to question every single play made on me that seemed too good to be true. Again, PVP isn’t the only thing in the game but cheaters are cheating for PVP advantage but ruining almost the entirety of the game. They need to go. I will support any Decision and changes the devs make to the game as long as those cheaters are gone

There’s plenty of ‘Legit’ players that don’t even PVP at all and get the experience ruined by cheaters

Yes random recoil will be uncomfortable but I’d rather live with that over Co existing with cheaters

I already know the spray and am good with most weapons. But I’m fed up of being triple headshot from a roaming M2 constantly

From 10 million miles away

[bright zodiac]

Tbf, m2 has basically no recoil when you’re crouched

[outer ridge]

True, but slap a 4x in it and your looking at the clouds after a couple of shots

[bright zodiac]

Idk why people have trouble controlling m2 4x. It’s probably the easiest gun to use in my opinion

[outer ridge]

Spoken like a true cheater😘

[bright zodiac]

You’re allowed your own opinion. I’m not cheating, but if that makes you feel better go for it

[outer ridge]

I’m just trolling g your good

[subtle magnet]

shut up. 3 hours to learn, and the abstence of vitamin D to master, Proof in your clips.

[bright zodiac]

What?

[subtle magnet]

go outside

[fluid breach]

Everyone thinks everyone is cheating to be fair

[topaz tundra]

Well its never been this many and it won't be less before we get some system in place

[summer wing]

An anti cheat is easy to develop for keyboard cheating devices

Prove me wrong I dare you. Shit even chatgpt can give you a unity coding that patches keyboard and mouse cheating devices!

It can detect it by the rapid sensitivity movement and joystick dead drift

[unborn marsh]

Js rainbow came out with Mouse Trap Now I'm js it might work JS

[bright zodiac]

I mean they could have a team that spectates players with high enough reports and issue a ban depending on their footage like loads and loads of server admins do on the pc version (community servers)

But it would also lead to new issues especially with legit highly skilled players