my discord bot with 2k servers takes a long time to start

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Snakebot#5949

[tame wraith]

how long? it usually takes quite a bit before the cache has been fully loaded depending on your intents

[dapper folio]

@frozen hedge consider not chunking guilds

If your bot doesn't require all members to be cached, this is the first thing you should do: ```py

somewhere in bot definition:

bot = commands.Bot(..., chunk_guilds_at_startup=False)

However, keep in mind that Guild.get_member will almost always return None after that. In order to get members you will have to use Guild.getch_member and Guild.getch_members

[frozen hedge]

Does it need to be used only with get_member?

[dapper folio]

It should be used in those places where Member objects usually come from cache
E.g. you will have to use on_raw_member_update + getch_nember instead of on_member_update

[dapper folio]

In practice, yes, most of the time

[frozen hedge]

You misunderstood. do I need to use getch guild?

[dapper folio]

No, it only affects the member cache

Guilds, channels, roles, etc. remain cached