envy's dual tribe runs!

[sacred gale]

N-no...

(I often lean towards CC mages, it doesn't count)

[distant rock]

Clearly u meant white mage and not black red or blue

Thats dope tbh

[sacred gale]

(Unless there's a big laser beam or black hole then I use the big laser beam or black hole)

(Although black hole type moves are CC)

[distant rock]

Nothin beats a good ol fireball

[sudden roost]

pretty sure late black mage has black holes

[distant rock]

Its got like, paradox or smth

Astro should get a black hole move, tbh

[sacred gale]

God I love casting a good black hole in any game, it's such a good way to support and protect the team and also it doesn't fuck around.

Wait.

Oh god I'm a Gardevoir.

[sudden roost]

lmfao

[quiet plaza]

oh my god

[distant rock]

Oh my god

[quiet plaza]

okay so five of us need to explode for you to reach your full potential-

[spare pollen]

thats why moth is always cruelly bullying ...

[distant rock]

Theres a board game me and emmi play where you have to fight colonizers by causing mild natural disasters and one of the powers you can draft is "a black hole apprears in the colonizers stronghold"

[quiet plaza]

oh my god

thats. so peak

[sacred gale]

I'm a Gardevoir I'm kind and serene.

[distant rock]

Maybe not all the disasters are mild

[spare pollen]

and yet ... you have a vested interest in seeing your own team obliterated ..

[sudden roost]

heehee

fragments of yesteryear <3

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-rewind-time-happy-gif-14810665

[distant rock]

Its not a disaster if it never happened

[sacred gale]

So I can AVENGE and PROTECT them.

[distant rock]

SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE TANK

[sacred gale]

Plus maybe I'm running feedback?

Did you even consider that?

[spare pollen]

ouguhhh ,... im taking 1/8 hp damage for picking on moth ...

[sacred gale]

Do not pick me up do not.

[distant rock]

Just use physical moves
Sic 'er

[spare pollen]

im picking on not picking up ..

although it could be a physical move

[sacred gale]

Oh I misread.

[spare pollen]

😔

im gardevoir, 38 and i never learned to read

forgive me 😔

[sacred gale]

To be fair, it's hard for a Gardevoir to read as a ralts because the big ass bowl cut blocks their eyes.

[spare pollen]

its their emo phase ..

[quiet plaza]

omg….

starting a charity to teach ralts to read… addressing ralts illiteracy rates…

[warm venture]

Gardevoir protects shy kids because it knows what it's like to grow up as one

[sacred gale]

Like that's something I- some Gardevoir probably really struggled with.

[spare pollen]

one of mavis's many money laundering schemes ..

[spare pollen]

its a real struggle ...

one minute youre trying to read through your little mushroom bowl cut, the next youre getting attacked by some wally kid

[sacred gale]

Wally should be shoved into a locker.

[quiet plaza]

we’ve gotta do something about this… starting a petition to ban the name wally…

[sacred gale]

Signed.

[warm venture]

Wtf...

[quiet plaza]

sorry dia turned my charity organization into an unregistered luxtech subsidiary… im evil now…

[sacred gale]

I'm not evil I'm a wonderful and perfect person.

[warm venture]

I suppose the emerald champion would also be caught in the crossfire... So actually I'm ok with this. We all know who the real Hoenn champ is

[sacred gale]

And I never commit atrocities with evil pokemon teams.

It's Dia, right?

With her famous metagross?

[warm venture]

True

[quiet plaza]

thats right ! this statement generously paid for by an anonymous donor

[spare pollen]

exaclty ....

[warm venture]

Transfem Devon Corporation scion Diana Stone

[spare pollen]

woaw....

i should make a hoenn metagross team

metagross/claydol/maniklaw/regirock/regice/?

dark and water answer for last slot

envy im sorry im forever stealing your channel to ramble in ..

[sacred gale]

Everyone throw tomatoes at her.

[sacred gale]

Breloom?

Volbeat?

[spare pollen]

oooh ..

breloom could work

and i like having sporeo

spore

what about . crawdaunt

[sacred gale]

Did you forget you're looking for a dark and water answer and instead just take both types?

[spare pollen]

i just looked at crawdaunt and thought she was cool ..

animated tribe crawdaunt using harbor breaker ...

it might not hit water types. but

[quiet plaza]

noooo i like it… its enrichment in my enclosure…

[spare pollen]

envy what are your thoughts on Animated team with hoenn mons ......

[quiet plaza]

omgomg…

[spare pollen]

to be fair theres not That many options so metagross/maniklaw/claydol/regis were easy picks but jlskdgh theres some leeway ..

regirock and regice seem like a cool blissey/stoutland core ... claydol can scare steel types and maniklaw can absorb fighting attacks

although it might suck having claydol switch in on steel moves

[quiet plaza]

ohhh… <- girl who cant look up animated mons rn (not at puter) but this is rlly fun…..

[wanton notch]

u could use the online pokedex

[quiet plaza]

omg theres an online pokedex?

<- girl who has many times wished there was an online pokedex. without even knowing my wish was already granted…!?

[wanton notch]

yeah it's a tab on the team builder website

can be a touch laggy on mobile but it does work

[quiet plaza]

wait omg probopass is. hm. chat do we think probopass counts as gen 3…

eviolite nosepass silly style… /silly

[sudden roost]

yea

[quiet plaza]

wait is nosepass gen 2… i dont knowwwww

[sudden roost]

nosepass is gen3

[quiet plaza]

okay phew im not unwiseful

[wanton notch]

u can even debug drill peck onto him…

[quiet plaza]

probopass perfect flyingtype coverage for your gen3 animated team…

[spare pollen]

omg perfect ...

its important to have a good flying type like probopass ..

[quiet plaza]

how is dustox… typing-wise it hits bug and dark but ive never used it….

vandal seems like it could be good dps buff in major fights at least, since those mons all hold items for the most part

[spare pollen]

its stats feel low ..

but vandal would work well on major fights

m dustox's liftoff seems like a nasty attack, its enough to tempt me to use a fly-like move a;jlskdghc

[quiet plaza]

omg liftoff… ive used fly-type moves a few times in tectonic and they feel nice tbh, it helps that the ai doesnt switch out of them (that ive seen?)

[sudden roost]

Lily has had a lot of praise for M!Dustox

[quiet plaza]

oh i said bug and dark instead of water and dark oops

the perils of distracted posting...

[spare pollen]

how would you build resolute breloom ... i love the two immunities but shes so slow ...

[quiet plaza]

mulch meal plus setup maybe? healing move that raises its speed seems good....

[spare pollen]

true ... .

[quiet plaza]

might try smth funny against samorn... teambuilding overhaul. try out some new mons

dragon ride on hisuian avalugg... and mantine. also. mantine is there. i made a commitment to #feminism and i want to honor it

[spare pollen]

omg ...

it's #feminism time ...

avalugg is such a neat critter to me i hope it works well ..

[quiet plaza]

i think this means i probably have to like. spend a lil bit of effort doing pokedex things for xp candies... <- girl who does Not have a big stockpile rn

[spare pollen]

get in the pokedex mines ...

[quiet plaza]

waaa ty... its one of the ones ive had my eye on as, like. smth i wanna use

the pokedex mines for me...

[wanton notch]

you could also go trash diving

[spare pollen]

the instruct plunder technique works really smoothly too i love that one ..

[wanton notch]

thank you crystal

[spare pollen]

thank you crystal ..

[quiet plaza]

omg true… i forgot trash diving was an option…

[wanton notch]

instrunder

[quiet plaza]

the plunstructing instrunder…

[quiet plaza]

god porygon-z is. so good. sometimes you just send porygon-z out and it clicks critical error a bunch of times in a row and you perfect the entire fight

[quiet plaza]

. offtopic aside from moth's thread, its funny how a specific class of pokemon is like. "this is a childhood favorite so i cant pretend theres not some fondness there, but i probably wouldnt choose it in a vacuum"

like im fond of chimchar and dialga bc my first game was pokemon diamond but its the like, childhood fondness not rooted in present-day preferences. as opposed to sigilyph which i love dearly with all my heart

[spare pollen]

i need like a sigilyph heart emoji..

[quiet plaza]

(admittedly theres also an element of. piplup and turtwig are so insanely, objectively peak that its hard for me to go to bat for chimchar in any meaningful way)

[quiet plaza]

wah true......

[sacred gale]

Me with quagsire honestly.

And yeah it's like. The love was there and still is, and that matters, but you have changed over time.

[quiet plaza]

omg yeah u get it...

[spare pollen]

divorce is complicated ...

forgive me ;alskdhg

[quiet plaza]

asdhflkJLKFDSJ HELP

dialga took the fucking kids. and then moved out of my timeline,

[spare pollen]

ASLDKGH

this is why palkia is fighting it

[quiet plaza]

pretty rough first pass at a team - fully expecting to refine this as i get through the gym + start making tries at samorn. the general idea is that wingbeat clicks dragon ride on rime shank, and then rime shank kills the most dangerous thing each turn while wingbeat clicks protect or follow me as appropriate. also #feminism is here (with a kind of dogshit set bc im not sure where she fits into the strategy yet)

[spare pollen]

will wingbeat be sturdy enough in the sand and all? with samorn's dragon coverage?

and her ice coverage

[quiet plaza]

i have no clue theres like, a nonzero chance i wind up going back to my default team - im kind of running with this for variety's sake

(also i don't know if wingbeat has to like, stay on the field for dragon ride buff... i would assume so but like. this is the level of "i dont know i really just threw some shit together" im working off of rn)

[spare pollen]

maybe rockalanche for avalugg so it can spread attack? 🥺 since its got doubled attack anyhow?

a;sldkghasdg forgive me im backseat driving ..

[quiet plaza]

. oh shit i Should check if it gets rockalanche, ty <- girl who doesnt mind u backseat driving, its helpful (girl who has had a rough day and isnt teambuilding wisefully rn)

[spare pollen]

i hope your day improves !! 🥺

[quiet plaza]

tyyyyy <- girl who doesnt think it will improve but. ah well at least she has tectonic

...god its so hard to like. change up ur team once youre in a comfortable groove... this is one of many reasons im so impressed by u dia <- girl whos soloing the first gym trainer with makyandibuzz bc shes so deep in her comfortable strats with this dualtribe by now

[spare pollen]

omg i feel you .. its really satisfying finding a team that works for you!!!

i was just inspired by you and moth and crystals lets play teams and wanted to branch out a;slkdhg

[sacred gale]

I'm genuinely just as impressed that you get a team and stick with it.

If I don't change my team every trainer I'll die.

[quiet plaza]

🥺 awawawawawa......

[spare pollen]

i have been tempted to go back to my radiant/scrapper team tbh i think its still my favorite ... bulky bulky ..

[quiet plaza]

radiant scrapper so fun... unlimited bulk...

[quiet plaza]

its so hard for me to like. get used to using new mons. i go "i wanna put smth new on my team!" and then i put it on my team and then i stare at it like idk what to do with u :(

. case in point i forgot abt samorn's towerpoda lead and now im Instantly like. fuuuuck i know i just tried to move new mons onto my team but. i want claydol for this one. tbh

[spare pollen]

claydol just has charm !!

[sacred gale]

Claydol is a certified silly lil guy.

[quiet plaza]

it has charm !! and it has... hypereffective anti-steel-type tactical nuke...

both of which are very important for a pokemon to have

[sacred gale]

"I have so many resistances and high defensive stats, nothing can hurt me!" Wrong. The Leyline Burst is coming.

[quiet plaza]

.
. [a fiendish thought enters my mind] i could run a sandstorm team. tbh

[spare pollen]

animated mystic sandstorm ...

stonjourner... claydol.... idk who else but somebody ...

[quiet plaza]

from the animated side of things theres like, sudowoodo and forretress

[sacred gale]

Probably need an SD sweeper in a sandstorm team... maybe 4...

[quiet plaza]

swordstorm...

sandsword...?

[spare pollen]

omg ....

dune ...

[quiet plaza]

okay so rime shank is nearly definitely a horrible idea here, i straight up did not remember samorn is kind of a steel type leader with towerpoda + reavor

chesed one-shots towerpoda off rip <3 thats my claydol

[spare pollen]

sorry envy steel types are just superior and invincible 😔

oh except against claydol

[sacred gale]

Dia I'm gonna leyline burst you.

[spare pollen]

Scary.... 😭

ive got to start levitating fr

[quiet plaza]

. LMAO I TABBED OUT FOR THE REST OF HER TURN BUT. im Assuming that was a bug buzz or smth that claydol just facetanked like a champ

[spare pollen]

i love alt tabbing like see yall in a bit .. hold on how'd i die

[quiet plaza]

alt tabbing during major fight so fun..... alt tab would never betray me

okay yeah rime shank cant survive a shatter vise from reavor, and this current team has no way of cleanly killing reavor anyhow. i dont think hisuavalugg sweep is gonna work out

my gut is telling me reavor winds up getting handled by makyandibuzz burning it, but that implies a strategy more flexible than "dragonite and havalugg both sit on the field begging samorn to click supereffectives against them"

[sacred gale]

I mean, nothing wrong with winging it with that strat until it works.

[quiet plaza]

yeah its more like. im not feeling like im gonna have a good time winging it with this strat

[sacred gale]

A tragedy and a half...

[quiet plaza]

samorn is packing hypereffective heat (well. hypereffective ice + steel) against both my new additions and neither of those additions is rlly equipped to cleanly deal with her answers

this is a "i threw together a team changeup on vibes alone and it turns out the material reality of the fight is extremely hostile to this specific team changeup" thing

[sacred gale]

Ooh yeah okay that's not the best.

It seems like a cool strat, but this is not its time.

[quiet plaza]

yeahyeah like if it was just saurenaid, or just reavor, i would go for it. but both at once, and both tending to wind up on the field at the same time (on the basis of, samorn proactively switching them in when dragonite+havalugg are around), is

[sacred gale]

Saur + reavor is a really nasty combo, they perfectly cover each other and hit so much.

[quiet plaza]

samorn's team is so cool... the dreadnaught.....

[spare pollen]

the dreadnaught !!!

[sacred gale]

Samorn was honestly one of my favorite fights.

Fighting her with her own team felt so sick because it really is a super cool team.

[quiet plaza]

tbh out of all hypothetical "use only one character's mons" runs samorn seems like a rlly fun one... so many cool mons and a lot of them r available pretty early on

[spare pollen]

bug/dragon is such a cool combo ... and she makes it steel on top of that ..

[sacred gale]

Bug is such an awesome type.

[quiet plaza]

okay yeah this fight is instantly so much more manageable with my Classic Team™. im sorry i doubted u Classic Team™

[sacred gale]

I need to remember how to make a classic team that fits everywhere...

May I have a refresher of what your classic team is?

[quiet plaza]

...thinking abt this more and concluding that fuuuuck i rlly am like. gym leader coded. i do in fact enjoy picking a specific group of mons around some specific central theming and then sticking with them forever&ever. im the girl everyone is invoking when theyre like "why dont gym leaders vary up their teams more, are they stupid"

[quiet plaza]

ooh sure! one sec one sec

[sacred gale]

I used to do this a lot honestly but recently I've gotten addicted to counterteaming.

Like I have teams I've used for genuinely thousands of battles.

[quiet plaza]

this is what im bringing into samorn rn - theres a lot of small variations i tend to make to my individual mons in-between fights (pory-z is packing ice beam for garchomp where itd normally have a setup move, more protect than normal bc its doubles, etc)

pory-mav isnt usual, shes here bc my usual sixth member is sunshine the g. rapidash and 4x bug weakness

[sacred gale]

Ooooh very teamful.

Makyandibuzz is such a powerhouse.

Emphasis on the house I guess.

[quiet plaza]

generally speaking i have a core group of... 7-8ish mons? that i would consider part of my "core team". the first five here, plus rapidash, plus sigilyph, plus maybe probopass (i havent been using probopass lately admittedly, bc makyandibuzz is kind of just better at everything it does)

[sacred gale]

I think having a core of like 10 mons tops and swapping them out is such a delightful way to play.

Honestly all these mons are so nifty.

Bronzong looks kind of insane I gotta try it sometime.

[quiet plaza]

i like it a lot bc its like... you get so so used to the good switchins, and what counterpicks work against which kinds of enemy mons, and etc. which naturally results in you picking good mons to bring into individual major fights, also

[quiet plaza]

bronzong is literally so good... thank u again dia for the positive things u said abt bronzong that made me go. oh i wanna try that

[spare pollen]

genuinely bronzong is amazing !!!

its just so versatile it just feels like a solid cornerstone pokemon ..

[sacred gale]

Ummm it's steel, not rock.

[spare pollen]

omg youre right ... forgive me steel ...

[sacred gale]

I'm planning for Noel right now and if I had a bronzong half the team would be solved.

[quiet plaza]

new steel cornerstone technology.... what could go wrong
[5 DEAD 23 INJURED IN HORRIFIC LEYLINE BURST INCIDENT,]

wait omg [unrelated aside] i just realized also ive been like "the sand isnt doing that much damage"... animated tribe coming in clutch...!!

[sacred gale]

(Currently got Deceat/Apersian/Frosmoth/Magcargo/Lickilicky/who knows)

[sacred gale]

Animated always stays winning!!!

Oh you should try fragmentation on bronzong.

Animated tribe helps it.

[quiet plaza]

. wait omg youre so right... slag is so good though...

[sacred gale]

Slag is swag.

[quiet plaza]

slag is swag
ill probably slot fragmentation in, it should be clarified that my initial reaction was like that bc i recently won a battle off the back of a slag poison proc + five turns of take shelter ajslkfjdklsfjlk

[sacred gale]

I mean slag is genuinely incredible for that.

I just saw thing goes with thing and my brain lit up.

[spare pollen]

slag is swag ...

[quiet plaza]

omg true... thank u <- girl who wouldnt have picked up on fragmentation if u hadnt pointed it out. girl who is grateful

[sacred gale]

I'm so good at putting the circle peg in the circle hole.

Probably one of my greatest skills.

[quiet plaza]

beautiful gamestate rn... (3 turns of light screen on my side too, thanks to chesed)

[sacred gale]

This is some sort of crime I think. But a good one.

[quiet plaza]

makyandibuzz is like, the second best mon in the game. after porygon z

im not sure this even counts as a challenge run at this point... "ohhh fucked up envy, you have to use makyandibuzz and porygon-z. in Every Battle. thats like, almost as hard as using ho-oh,"

[sacred gale]

Makyandibuzz is genuinely so insane.

Curselocke mvp for me.

It does so much stuff.

[spare pollen]

i need to use makyandibuzz more ...

[sacred gale]

It can even rapid spin.

Also makyandibuzz's back sprite is really good I love it.

[spare pollen]

being able to status and cut damage by 50% is really neat, plus hazard removal

[quiet plaza]

TRUE !!

[sacred gale]

Wait... can I make a full witch team with makyandibuzz in the game?

Delphox/Hatterene/Mismagius/Makyandibuzz/Maromatisse/please someone think of a 6th witch.

[quiet plaza]

omg omg omg

[sacred gale]

There's no more witches this is hell...

[quiet plaza]

[sacred gale]

This is a good matchup spread, right?

This is balanced.

[quiet plaza]

yeah i dont see any glaring issues this is probably fine

also YES

SAMORN DOWN

[sacred gale]

WOOOOOOOO!!!

[quiet plaza]

god i fucking love the last few turns of doubles cursed perfect fights

like genuinely the most effervescent bit of the whole experience. the lingering tension. the cathartic release of finally clicking the ko move and having it go through and nothing unexpectedly horrible happens

[sacred gale]

Yes it's like... will I make it all the way? But everything is worn down and you can't yet be sure, anything could happen.

[quiet plaza]

YEAH omg yeah u get me...... esp when its smth dangerous like reavor and its like. this could still get a kill if im not careful. and it all comes down to, like, reading the ai's moves and closing it out

also i can now confidently say that air balloon unafraid pory-mav is insaaaaane vs samorn

like, 4x resist to two of her types (bug and steel), and air balloon patches up the ground hyperweakness just enough that its possible to switch it in

i wasnt even running an especially impressive set on it and it still performed just by clicking protect + recover + STABs

[sacred gale]

I gotta try porymav...

Also love the double pory.

[spare pollen]

I’m very curious about porymav …

Also envy … you could go triple tribe with double pory ..

If you just sacrifice all other aspects of team building …

[quiet plaza]

im so glad that i got double pory in, it was one of the things i wanted to do this tribe combo for...

HELPHELP

omg triple tribe double pory time....

[sacred gale]

Don't listen to her she's an evil temptress.

[quiet plaza]

listening to evil temptresses... my favorite activity...

[spare pollen]

poryz, porymav, any animated mystic, any animated radiant, any mystic radiant, and a wild card ..

[quiet plaza]

. oh god the double pory triple tribe looks like. insanely viable actually

u get 2x pory, frosmoth (or smth non-frosmoth i Guess. gigalith is cool), rotom or towerpoda or fuck it straight up regieleki, [any of the exceptional mystic-animated mons ive been poasting about this whole time], wildcard mon

like rotom alone means u have much more flexibility with type balance than triple tribe would normally imply. and it gets levitate so its not ground weakness doubling with pory-mav

[sacred gale]

Oh yeah rotom is insane value there holy shit.

[spare pollen]

Ahdjfkf this is how I felt w mystic scourge harmonic … like wait a minute this actually works really well…

[sacred gale]

Frosmoth is also x4 ground resist.

For porymav.

[quiet plaza]

omg... the triple tribe double pory dream is real....

.

whitebloom yez time.

here we are again...

[sacred gale]

Peak approaches...

[spare pollen]

when i first saw her there i liked to imagine that my val waved at her and then when she didnt respond val climbed on her skarmory and tried to fly up there. and then yezera very sheepishly had regieleki blast her

[quiet plaza]

asdjfkDKSLFJL HELP REALLLLLL

^ this but w regieleki

[spare pollen]

thats why you have to go through the cave 😌

[quiet plaza]

that and also to beat up the "arm got eaten by starving larvitar" trainer <- girl with a vendetta against her now&forever

doxxing her in here. actually. im feeling spiteful

[spare pollen]

doxxing her ...

[quiet plaza]

. oh my god do u think val ever actually just, takes a photo of someone's poke x-ray result, posts it online to doxx random trainer-

[spare pollen]

ASLDKHGASD

she does this to that kid whose dreams you crush

[quiet plaza]

val posting like "talking shit about yezera when her pokemon dont even have held items smh 😤 😤 pokemon not even at level cap"

[quiet plaza]

AJSDKLFJADSKLFJKLD NOOOOOOOOO

[sacred gale]

Oh I hate this trainer actually so please kill her.

Chatot is my enemy.

[quiet plaza]

pleased to report shes been obliterated

[sacred gale]

Maybe she shouldn't be content, maybe she should try to be a better person.

[quiet plaza]

my #PokemonTectonicHeadcanon is that in this specific instance, the "trainer ran away" screen-blackout is actually porygon-z clicking critical error on her

[spare pollen]

ADLKSHGASDGKL

[sacred gale]

Get her ass.

[spare pollen]

i think weve gotta kill this guy tiphereth

[quiet plaza]

beeeeobpppbpbpbp

[quiet plaza]

god this is such a fucking thing to say right after spreading mean&untrue celebrity gossip unprompted. and then getting ur ass kicked really hard in pokemon battle by random trainer

[digital plaza]

I suppose sudden cardiac arrest does count as a critical error

[warm venture]

hi i have once again slept through discussion in this thread and only been able to absorb the first thing i read when i woke up but
blaziken is in that category of "childhood fav" for me

[spare pollen]

blaziken actually got a crazy power up right after gen 3 didnt it, they gave it speed boost ..

[warm venture]

which is funny because it wasn't actually my first hoenn starter. i restarted sapphire a bunch of times as a kid because my friends on the playground kept telling me bullshit ( 😭 ) and played with all 3 starters at different points. but blaziken just stands out as my fav for some reason

[warm venture]

i was actually upset at this as a kid because it meant it got banned to ubers ajdfk;ljaf;lkj. i didn't play comp or anything naturally i was just like. free my son

[quiet plaza]

omg... free them...

[quiet plaza]

i feel like its a very... fire/fighting starter kind of category for a pokemon to be in... <- biased statement

[warm venture]

afkj;lsjf;lakjsf

[digital plaza]

what do you mean fire/fighting starter category? there exists no such thing. Gamefreak would never make a bunch of starters in a row that are mild variations on the same concept

fortunately for me at least, my first starter first got the hisui glow-up treatment and then both of the forms got the tectonic best fire starter treatment so I got to discover how much I loved Typhlosion all over again

except that in the meantime someone made the Meganium is fem-coded video and now I have to become meganium's biggest defender instead. it is law

[quiet plaza]

meganium swagful.... feraligatr also in the "fondness in account of i used it as a kid" category unlike both of its genmates in the "full present-day fondness" category. totodile is cute at least

god i love the team chasm chuuni operation names sm

[spare pollen]

candy is perhaps one of the worlds greatest women .. #feminism

[quiet plaza]

TRUEEEEE #feminism

you .

twinsies
but also
i must defeat you. my evil doppelganger. my evil twin

my shadow self...! my shadow self...!!!

[sacred gale]

Candy is so silly I adore her.

[sacred gale]

Candy would looooove if she had an evil shadow self pop up honestly.

[quiet plaza]

oh my god she has a metagross. she has

[quiet plaza]

new bounty request idea: candy evil shadow self postgame questline... enrichment in her enclosure...

[digital plaza]

Aoh right that was the original topic of conversation wasn't it <- girl who should not be awake at 3 AM

weirdly enough I'm not sure if I have any of those? most of the Pokemon I really liked have held up pretty well for me idk

[spare pollen]

omg thats so real

she would be so excited going on a quest to defeat her

[quiet plaza]

oh thats awqsome... for me its like. okay admittedly its like, a "i liked these pokemon when i was a weird and offputting young boy and now im like, a woman grown, and so theyre associated with the experience of growing up as a girl who didnt know she was a girl in ways that im unsure how to process". to get serious for a moment

like infernape and feraligatr and such specifically, for me

[digital plaza]

real. makes a lot of sense tbh

I guess, looking back at it I probably felt less attached to the cool and tough looking things when I was younger?, which turns out to have been a blessing once I realized who I was lol

(other than dragons. but dragons are cool because they are dragons and that's different)

[quiet plaza]

goddd okay im so glad u like. get what i mean. yeah its like... i liked them bc they were cool and tough looking... and idk that makes me feel particularly weird attaching myself to them now

[quiet plaza]

(true!! also dragons are cool bc they can set eclipse. thank u salamence)

[quiet plaza]

update: tiphereth swept her entire team. thank u tiphereth

[spare pollen]

thank you tiphereth ...

i love that emoji 😭

[quiet plaza]

ITS SO GOOD i cant believe i didnt realize i had it until tonight......

[spare pollen]

omg !!!

[quiet plaza]

new favorite emoji tbh. go my tiphereth

masked villain teal keoni

[warm venture]

keoni 😔

[spare pollen]

when are the masked villains determined ... can you save scum for candy/alessa/imogene/whoever ...

[sacred gale]

Only letting women be evil, #feminism

[spare pollen]

exactly ...

[warm venture]

start of playthrough, but you can check with debug if you know what you're doing

[spare pollen]

😔

[quiet plaza]

keoni are u sure about that.......

wait oh my god hes fucking dr stone guy

oh my fucking god

[spare pollen]

hes fucking the stone guy ??

[quiet plaza]

hes literally "ahaHA what if we go back in time... reset all human progress... and then invent science Again from scratch !! science 2 !!!!!"

[quiet plaza]

😭 fucking the stone guy for stones......

(context: dr stone is an extremely mid manga/anime that hates women and revolves around. pretty much exactly masked villain keonis plan only "at least" dr stone has it as like, an actual apocalyptic premise and not The Goal)

[quiet plaza]

like i cannot stress enough that "all human civilization is functionally reset by the apocalypse and then a small group of HyperGeniuses™ has to reinvent the sciences from scratch" is literally the plot of dr stone. keoni read that manga and was like Oh Shit this is the smartest thing anyones ever said !! eureka !!!

[digital plaza]

yeah it's a weird thing. like am I supposed to not like non-traditionally-feminine-coded things now that I know I'm a girl? but actually gender is fake and I should like whatever I like, but also, girl? god lol

[quiet plaza]

godddd YEAH.... for me its simultaneously like. back when i didnt know i was a girl, this was one of the only things i liked that overlapped with "acceptable masculine preferences" and thereby didnt totally exclude me from the role i was supposed to be living out. like its fine to like feraligatr and infernape, those are Cool Boy Pokemon. but like, im a girl now, and it actually kind of sucks and i dont want to be associated with Cool Boy Pokemon as i used to subconsciously conceptualize them?? this shit is so hard

[digital plaza]

yeah, real

I think I got lucky in this respect in that the person who introduced me to Pokemon was a girl and therefore I think I never got the bad associations with it tbh
but at the same time, I get it

it's like, how much of your appreciation for this was because it was expected, and how much of it is real? and disentangling that is hard and comes with psychic baggage that makes even using them complicated

[quiet plaza]

goddd yeahyeahyeah

[digital plaza]

weirdly I'm like. yes. I viscerally get this. can I think of why? no but it makes complete sense to my brain

(this is definitely not because it is ass o'clock and I should be in bed)

[quiet plaza]

(u should eep.... im only up rn bc my sleep schedule is fucked up and not normal. and my day/week has been rough enough that im past taking drastic measures to try and fix it at this point)

[quiet plaza]

im rlly glad that u get it btw like, talking this through with u has been very helpful. load off my chest kinda

[digital plaza]

I am trying tbf. only up because I had to shower, because I had to exercise, because sleep is subordinate to the very important girljob of Growing Hips

[quiet plaza]

TRUE cheering u on with important girljob...!!

. wild tangent but got up and had a drink of water and suddenly got a like, massive hot rush and had to take off an outer layer bc i felt overheating. body doing strange&confusing things

[digital plaza]

god that's strange. hopefully everything's okay?

[quiet plaza]

its probably fiiiine & moreso related to like, sitting for a while and then getting up and then sitting back down than anything. mb my body has installed an awqsome new mechgirl heat venting system…

[digital plaza]

ahhh yes hopefully that's it lol

[quiet plaza]

masked villain teal (keoni) cursed perfect

taking a moment to enjoy the view, this time

[distant rock]

There so much emotion in just kinda standing there with yez

The fact that you have to be the one to start the confrontation really drives home that like

She doesnt wanna fight you

[quiet plaza]

yeah yeah

also :] fight perfect nearly secured. just gotta go the distance

[distant rock]

Lets gooo

Tbh yez5 curse is really not bad

[quiet plaza]

yeah the linoone avatar is like. mostly a non-issue. and her regis are dangerous but ultimately manageable

[distant rock]

Once youve figured out the lead, the fight is largely solved

But the lead is SO ROUGH

[quiet plaza]

the lead is so mean its wonderful

i like the difference in how tactically yez uses her regis vs how the masked villains + sang use them (like, the other regi leads have good builds as individual mons, but like. yez has a Strategy built up around them). its rlly nice ludonarrative resonance

[distant rock]

Yeah

Tho i feel like alessa could use a bit more of a competent team with it

Theres no way that ms. DragMag herself would run a team with 4 mons countered by a steel type, lmao

[warm venture]

excuse you that's Mrs. DragMag she very specifically says that she and Yez are an old married couple :P

[quiet plaza]

omg she does... sadness </3 <- girl who doesnt remember alessas masked villain team offrip (ill check crystals LP after im done w this fight to see what youre talking about)

[distant rock]

Imma be real i dont know or care for the distinction

But also SO TRUE BESTIE

[warm venture]

it's based on her casaba shore one, kinda, right?

i know it's got The Rat

[distant rock]

Its like
Regirock, haxorus, rillaboom, rat, 2 guys i forget

[quiet plaza]

ooooo nodsnodsnods

[distant rock]

But hax and rillaboom both cant hit steel for neutral and regirock dies to a flash cannon

[quiet plaza]

</3 critical weakness to bronzong gaming.......

[warm venture]

and rat is. rat. at least this one is singles

[distant rock]

Rat gets countered by any move other than "do 1 hit of damage at +0 priority"

[quiet plaza]

</3 the humble rat is easily devoured by the cunning&vicious makyandibuzz... nature is cruel, yet beautiful

[distant rock]

Even just statusing it means endeavor only takes you to 50hp

[quiet plaza]

god the back half of tectonic is so. so fucking good

theres smth extremely nice about how the first half is like... a big mechanical playground as you ease into the run, getting to know the options available to you and testing the limits of earlygame routing. and then the second half is just. excellent?? fuck

[distant rock]

The rare pokemon game i wish had more story beats tbh

[warm venture]

yeah the split is really fun because like
i mean you know. pokemon fangames having indepth plots can be. controversial.
tectonic gives itself time to get its hooks in you first before someone can be turned off by a first impression (unless they really hate zain which i mean like,,,,,, fair,,,,,,)
and then says GOT YOU FUCKER YOU WILL CRY ABOUT THIS AUTISTIC WOMAN

[distant rock]

What if tectonic sequel where after some introspection, you and yez decide to travel to a new region together and train up new teams alongside each other

[warm venture]

what if tectoinc sequel where after some introspection you and yez [REDACTED] [DATA EXPUNGED] [USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST] [CONTENT NOT ALLOWED IN 27 COUNTRIES]

[distant rock]

Except some things from the past keep trying to catch back up (mavis trying to get her hooks into you and sang being up to his bullshit again)

[distant rock]

What if...

[quiet plaza]

itd be interesting if you like. stumble into some of mavis / luxcorp's new dark dealings, i feel. surely she hasnt entirely washed her hands of Villainous Actions

[distant rock]

Im willing to bet that anything mavis says to val about being Good now is at least 80% a lie to bring her back

Like, "im getting better, see? Ive downscaled the factory to only slaughter 80.000 puppies per month instead of 100.000! Im such a good mother."

[warm venture]

god

[quiet plaza]

helppppppppp

[distant rock]

Anyway what chasm leader do you think vals dad is. Gotta be lambert right

[quiet plaza]

. brain very briefly went "val was a yuri baby trust" and then bluescreened at the thought of like, helena or tamarind mom number 2

[distant rock]

nah, helena and tamarind wouldnt cheat or need a 3rd
those bitches are sworn yuri enemies for life

the only thing i could see is tamarind trying to hook up with mavis to get helena jealous. but then it accidentally goes to far and bam. this weird creature appears calling itself val and mavis is like "yeah i can work with that"

ive always headcanoned val to be at least 25% cryptid at all times

[quiet plaza]

i see i see... i think im too aro to wrap my head around the complexities of val parentage. fortunately im just [tv static] enough to stare at yez dialogue and feel myself continue to be changed by it

[distant rock]

she just like me fr

[quiet plaza]

probably the one upside of tectonic not having more story content is that this channel is most of the time not just me posting lines of yezera dialogue and sobbing incoherently

[quiet plaza]

god. god. god. god. god. genuinely this line in particular haunts me. like i still remember getting hit by this for the first time and sitting there like ah right id forgotten thats not the norm,

[distant rock]

it still fucking baffles me sometimes that theres people that just

exist

and they just go about their day to day and dont constantly have existential questions and anxieties

i feel like that was a lot more real than i meant it when i started writing that but eh what can you do

joe from accounting is lame and yezera tectonic is a real girl dont @ me

[quiet plaza]

doesnt @ you because i agree its true. thats right

[sour birch]

its true.

[quiet plaza]

whitebloom yez cursed perfect <3 my feelings might change but at this moment in time i think this is my favorite fight in tectonic

[distant rock]

from a pure battle pov im think i disagree but if you includ what it means storywise than 1000%

[quiet plaza]

like the finale and the tournament are both exceptional, but. the dialogue bookending the fight, and the fight itself, and the atmosphere of whitebloom, and the way it marks your final level cap increase... its just really. really good. the feeling of contentment both times ive gotten here is like unparalleled

[distant rock]

cant help but notice ur still not running hyper beam on your porygon smh my head

[quiet plaza]

ajsdklfJDSKLFS i ran it for a while!! it hasnt made it to any story fights i dont think, just bc i like the increased flexibility of lorb porygon, but i Did try it out

[distant rock]

thats real tbh

lemme see if i can find the set i ran

found it from my old finale team

god this team goes so hard actually

[warm venture]

I was about to say

Gun, Beepo and Damage all just deleting things

King too probably

[distant rock]

everything here just deletes shit

i guess its kind of a hyper offense team but it didnt feel like it because only 1 mon has a speed stat above 100

[quiet plaza]

omg beepo.... oh yeah okay i see the vision (i did hyperbeam + null pulse + critical error, it makes much more sense to run phantom gate and save the hyperbeam for anything you want to click normal on though)

[distant rock]

the usual strat was like
hyper beam removes a target
phantom gate removes a target
crit error cleans up whats left

protect because finale is doubles

[quiet plaza]

[quiet plaza]

(still thinking abt this) i think if tournament counts as one big fight then its definitely my favorite in terms of pure mechanics, with finale in second place

[distant rock]

probably, yeah

i actually really rate Raf as a fight

theres so many little details there of finding type matchups, various ways around the curse, managing what pokemon you can have fully evolved by 30, and finding an actual strategy

its nigh impossible to just brute force it, you have to get a little cheeky in some way
and i love getting cheeky in some way

[quiet plaza]

raf is rlly good yeah

i think lambert serves his purpose really well as like, tutorial major fight

[distant rock]

i think as a whole, the first 4 gym leaders feel much better than the last 4
except samorn, samorn is awesome

[quiet plaza]

i like noel also out of the last 4, but id agree otherwise

[distant rock]

my opinion on fights is probably like
raf > helena > samorn > lambert > eko > noel > zence > victoire

eko unfortunately can just feel like a type matchup check sometimes

[quiet plaza]

ohhhh interesting.... yeah i can see that tbh <- girl who admittedly doesnt have like. any impression of eko rn bc she did the funny lvl30 eko clear this time around

[distant rock]

oh lmao

[quiet plaza]

thinking abt my first playthrough for eko reference i think id still put noel above eko personally, just bc of like. personal preference etc (i find the noel curse engaging to work around, as a like "mandated switch turns" thing at baseline that you can also attempt to find ways to stay in on)

[distant rock]

my beef with noel is that the curse effect is good but his team is still kinda mid

[quiet plaza]

thats true... shiny metagross awqsome at least

[distant rock]

i love the garmanitan set. it aint good tho

[quiet plaza]

sjdfklJDSLK oh god i forgot abt that fucking set

[warm venture]

I hunted a shiny beldum in sv and named it armiger

[quiet plaza]

:] awww hellyeah

[distant rock]

yoooo

i just realised that noels bruxish has fire fang instead of elemental fang
lol

[quiet plaza]

HELP

[distant rock]

i think this is because the ai is dumb and doesnt know how to use the move

[quiet plaza]

[warm venture]

wym caught in paldea isn't blueberry academy off the coast of unova

[quiet plaza]

armiger forged passport……. armiger fake trainer notes

its kind of funny, tectonic would be a game id shiny hunt in if playing the game werent so superlatively fun that it eclipses shiny hunting as the activity of choice

like at some point ill probably do it but its like, if i have tectonic open im like Playing Tectonic. whereas shiny hunting is the like, meditative no-thoughts grinding activity of choice for interfacing with pokemon games

[spare pollen]

thinking about. this sort of is probably what Val’s life was like up until they went on this journey away from their mother ..

[quiet plaza]

. oh my god youre right fuck. fuck

[spare pollen]

wait even more Val Yezera parallels 😭😭😭

[quiet plaza]

oh my fucking god youre right aouh. aouhhhhgggghhhhh

caretaker/harmonic is now on my to-do list, i think. thought up a rlly good naming gimmick for it (entirely related to my listening to do no harm ventricular mix on repeat while walking to pick up my meds)

on the topic of this run also, its kind of rlly funny that i went into it like “yay ill get to use the regis lategame” and now im highkey probably just gonna skip them bc my current setup wouldnt rlly benefit

[spare pollen]

sldkghl understandable ..

your team seems super solid !!!

[quiet plaza]

yeah like. not having to use a wildcard on anything feels so good

regidrago is busted but i genuinely dont think its worth having to swap out one or more of my core mons

[spare pollen]

also i think you could upgrade fire spin to crimson storm if you wanted

[quiet plaza]

this is true, i didnt have crimson storm when i mentored it and i went like. realistically speaking the trapping move isnt even doing that much damage anyways

ty for the reminder though, ill probably do that pre-tournament just bc every little edge counts

[spare pollen]

jfsdkcllhg;a sorry for nitpicking 🥺

[quiet plaza]

dwwww its all good…. i appreciate it even if it makes me a lil anxious (which is like, very much a me thing)

[spare pollen]

omg youre all good 🥺 a;skdghl your team is really brilliant it keeps making me want to try all these guys out more ..

[quiet plaza]

yesssss use mystic/animated mons….. theyre awqsome coolstyle……

my #1 takeaway from this playthrough tbh is that a type immunity is pretty much the strongest&best thing a mon can have. and if you have lots of immunities then you basically dont get hit by anything ever and can win every fight. this will never lead me astray i dont think

[spare pollen]

no youre so right ......

[digital plaza]

this is actually pretty true lol. at the very least, finding neat combinations of type immunities (especially in combination with CV) can let you find solutions to very difficult pokemon

[distant rock]

Nah thats so real

[spare pollen]

this makes me want to make an immunity focused team

[quiet plaza]

switching a mon into a move that its immune to is basically the “im blocking it with my indestructible barrier” playground pretend strat of pokemon battling. which is to say it feels amazing and nothing ever goes wrong with it

[distant rock]

Theres a good reason i have super high value for croagunk, wooper and shellos for helena, that water immunity goes such a long way

[spare pollen]

literallyyyy

[quiet plaza]

immuniteam so cool……..

[distant rock]

I think every type has an immunity somewhere at this point?

[digital plaza]

I think that's right

Not 100% sure but it sounds right

[distant rock]

Even though sometimes you gotta dig for some mons that arent too stellar otherwise (sorry breloom but this game did you dirty asf)

[quiet plaza]

i kind of want to fit gumshoos onto a team now bc like. quadruple immunity with its signature ability has gone from sounding “oh that seems good” to “surely this is the third best mon ever, after and makyandibuzz”

[distant rock]

Isnt it only triple?

[spare pollen]

triple + cv ...

[distant rock]

Oh yea cv gumshoos

[quiet plaza]

oh is it? i couldve sworn it was like… dragon/fairy/dark plus its natural ghost immunity

[distant rock]

Its dragon/fairy/ghost from the abby

[quiet plaza]

OHHH okay ic ic

[distant rock]

Which is why i am
Not fond of it

[quiet plaza]

thats kinda sad yeah

at least cv ghost gumshoos has like. five immunities and drops a weakness

[distant rock]

its why were replacing it with something much cooler next update

[quiet plaza]

noway…… swagful……

the only thing cooler than three immunities…… four immunities, /silly

the only thing cooler than three immunities………. wonder guard on a normal type, /ultra silly

[distant rock]

TECTONIC 3.4
GUMSHOOS HAS WONDER GUARD

[quiet plaza]

it gets wonder guard bc. its a detective and detectives spend time wondering about things. nodsnods thats right 🔍 🕵️

[spare pollen]

they also guard people ... it fits ...

[distant rock]

hes investigating the murder of the queen
the main suspect is the captain
he now wonders about the guard

[sacred gale]

Makyan Gumshoos and it's just a blurry PNG of Columbo.

[quiet plaza]

signature ability One More Thing, uses a random one of its moves as it switches out /silly because i imagine this can probably be easily broken

[sacred gale]

Using u-turn as I switch out to switch back in.

[quiet plaza]

probably less broken / more on-flavor version of this is like… uses scary face as it switches out

or loom over. ig it depends on what type this hypothetical makyumshoos is also

[sacred gale]

New original columbo type.

[quiet plaza]

TRUE

[sacred gale]

Anyway 5 immunities gumshoos seems kinda silly I love it.

[quiet plaza]

i kinda wanna try it out now. extremely whimsical switch-in, idk what it actually does once its on the field but it sure as hell can get onto the field

[sacred gale]

Being immune to dragon/fairy/ghost/normal/fighting would make it a really good switch in for any dragon or dark type.

[quiet plaza]

ooooh true hydreigon support mon…..

[sacred gale]

As for what it does... well, whatever the opponent just did, I guess. Cross examine is a silly move.

Wait it gets kinda nutty coverage too?

[quiet plaza]

omg?

[sacred gale]

Steel ground bug dark psychic and the elemental punches.

Also dragon, I guess CV dragon could be kinda sick to be immune to two of the three weaknesses.

[quiet plaza]

omgomg

only weak to ice….. what if normal type had resists and was awqsome

[spare pollen]

im pondering immunity team so far thinking of like

• gumshoos
• walrein
• breloom
• rubarior
• ?
• ?

rubarior bc its got 3 immunities plus magic shield so youve got an effective status move immunity switch in too

idk how to actually make these guys cohere as a team otherwise but

its a start

[wanton notch]

carbink…

[quiet plaza]

heatmor has two immunities with firefighter, i think

[sacred gale]

I don't think you make a team out of this, you just look at the opponent and pick 6 mons that are immune to their bullshit.

[spare pollen]

i covered fire with walrein 😤

[quiet plaza]

OH IC your walrein swag…..

[spare pollen]

absurd ... we can make a team out of this ..

like isnt this gorgeous

[quiet plaza]

oh its beautiful

[sacred gale]

Fragile amulet dracozolt.

[spare pollen]

omg

[sacred gale]

Immune to psychic and fighting.

Totally not just a worse rubarior.

Trust me.

[spare pollen]

😔

[quiet plaza]

wait omg omg aerodynamic mantine-

immune to ground and flying (flying in particular for breloom) And its #feminism

[spare pollen]

my list of options for the last slot is like:

aggron
bronzong
cryogonal
steel/flying
steel/ground
mantine
jumpluff
flying/ground
quagsire
gastrodon

[sacred gale]

Use landorus therian.

[spare pollen]

omg that too

[quiet plaza]

lando-t gaming…….

[sacred gale]

I hear it's pretty bad in all games though idk.

[quiet plaza]

its rlly sinking in for me now that this team has like. immunities to all but eight types, and its not even done yet

[spare pollen]

right ... a;jsldkcgh i dont know how useful it will be in practice but like ... if you can anticipate the opponent ...

[quiet plaza]

new pokemon mechanic where switching pokemon can be used to basically perfect parry

[spare pollen]

okay heres one option

[quiet plaza]

. oh my god i didnt even process gumshoos isnt like, CVed yet… u have like, immunity option value on this team too can CV for even more immunities if necessary

[spare pollen]

oooh i could CV ..

[sacred gale]

Silvally can pick and choose any type to be immune to.

[spare pollen]

i could bring in a rock immune person maybe

omg really

[sacred gale]

While also being immune to ghost.

[quiet plaza]

omg…..

[quiet plaza]

oh its rlly pleasant how u like, have resisted switchins in all the types u dont have outright immunities to also

[sudden roost]

you probably make gumshoos steel

oh oops didn't see the 2nd version

[quiet plaza]

stumshoos…….

[sudden roost]

also

where is your Shedinja lmfao

[quiet plaza]

omg………

[sacred gale]

Shedinja is for nerds.

[spare pollen]

okay option two

[sacred gale]

Also maybe Mantine could be CV flying blazekin?

[spare pollen]

i really could fit in a shedinja

omg

[sacred gale]

Pecking order boosts flying moves, being flying gives stab and immune to ground.

[quiet plaza]

blaziken second best flying type….. (sorry i cant betray probopass)

[sacred gale]

Also use deoxys over walrein?

[spare pollen]

do i go shedinja or no ... it is the immunities georg but has limitations

[spare pollen]

also true ...

[sacred gale]

Like this is super fucked up, right?

[quiet plaza]

omg

weak to normal and dragon…

[distant rock]

deoxys is so fucked up and evil

[sacred gale]

I love how it's weak to the two worst offensive types.

Worst in a vaccuum, at least.

[distant rock]

ehhhh
id say grass and steel are worse

[spare pollen]

okay heres an option

[sudden roost]

in this game? Nah not a chance.

Grass slaps as offense here

[sacred gale]

I disagree. I've wanted grass and steel as coverage plenty of times, dragon and normal are only desperation picks there.

[quiet plaza]

only vulnerable to grass and steel…. ferrothorn your enemy……

[sudden roost]

Dragon has the benefit of a lot of neutrals

[distant rock]

I think grass and steel are better coverage types but worse stab types

[quiet plaza]

oh wait also rock

[sacred gale]

And yes as coverage isn't the only way of judging a type, but it's an important one imo.

[distant rock]

Powerful normal or dragon stab is fuckin scary

[spare pollen]

i did think about sneasler for rock immunity

[quiet plaza]

[sudden roost]

For me I'd say the worst are steel and normal

[sacred gale]

Anyway all 4 of these types are resisted by steel so they're bad.,

[sudden roost]

can't even do a Metagrossilian amount of damage

[spare pollen]

literally!!!

[sacred gale]

Anyway if it wasn't tectonic I'd put psychic as the other worst offensive type.

[spare pollen]

cant decide if i like this bc theres no rock or grass immunities and i have 2 weaknesses to each ..

[sacred gale]

You wouldn't have those rock and grass weaknesses if that was deoxys instead of walrein. Just get deoxys it's so easy trust me.

(I have no clue how to get deoxys)

[spare pollen]

youre right ..

i think its post game ;alskdhgc

[quiet plaza]

pecking order is such a cool ability tbh. the only immunity-granting ability that also incentivizes the user to use moves of the type

. ig technically dragon slayer makes your dragon moves better…? does sylveon get any dragon moves??

skill swapping dragon slayer onto a dragon to make this technicality relevant

[quiet plaza]

checked and alolan exeggutor and makyan musharna can do this with skill swap, and hymnus and latias with role play (sylveon doesnt learn skill swap)

[digital plaza]

it's post-game yeah

[digital plaza]

it is actually specifically relevant Nuzlocke tech that it's easy to dupe towards a Gumshoos on guardian isle, which stops AP Zain's giratina entirely

[quiet plaza]

okay i have finally, finally extricated myself from my bed after an hour and a half of post-picking-up-meds unable to get up. im probably just gonna start throwing myself at the championship, i think this team is pretty well suited for it without my needing to pick anything else up tbh

[spare pollen]

your team seems awesome!!

[quiet plaza]

my coolful team.....

i spent so long doing hot girl shit in the earlygame that its weird for me to be like. almost nearly to the end of this run

[warm venture]

your coolful you (being strong enough to get meds and then get out of bed)

[digital plaza]

yhis is when you do the optional side quests to do more hot girl shit lol

but honestly I get the urge to just like. move on. lol

(there is a LOT of optional side content. Curse of too many legendaries)

[quiet plaza]

yeah i wanna get to new runs.... i can always come back to this savefile to do more hot girl shit anyhow. if i really really wanna

[quiet plaza]

its the thing where like. it wouldnt rlly feel like hot girl shit anymore bc of how comfortable i am with this team. thats just Playing the Game at this point

[digital plaza]

it's honestly less stuff that's super challenging anyway so it's not worth that much. would be harder if there were more curses etc involved

[quiet plaza]

nodsnodsnods yeahyeah

[wanton notch]

damn I wish I could send you into the reworked ||[REDACTED]|| for testing me and Bella cooked something incredible

[warm venture]

I've so many times gone "I've done this before I don't wanna get bogged down in sidequests lets just finish this" that I need to sit down and force myself to engage with side content again for the first time in a while fjakl;sjf

[quiet plaza]

the reworked ||[REDACTED]||... awqsome.....

[distant rock]

yall cooked so much cooked stuff i dont even know who REDACTED even is

[wanton notch]

the one Bella posted a 19 minute long video of fighting

[digital plaza]

let me tell you [REDACTED] is so good

[distant rock]

i have not seen this video but thats kinda baller

[digital plaza]

I mean I brought [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] and it still wasn't easy at all!

[wanton notch]

and the new move, primeval redacted…

[quiet plaza]

first match: vs eko

theyll probably be pleasantly surprised by my makyandibuzz lead. like, given their whole thing

[digital plaza]

ah yes, you too have embraced the arts of pain and suffering

[quiet plaza]

</3 incineroar lead means i dont actually get to flex my pain and suffering credentials... alas

[sacred gale]

You're a fake pain and suffering fan I bet... not even using makyandibuzz...

[digital plaza]

real

[quiet plaza]

clicking shiver on incineroar t1 feels so bad but apparently the chip damage is necessary to get them to switch out incineroar when rapidash hits the field </3

[digital plaza]

Chip damage good. make them all experience pain

(but honestly just like chip damage so you can tank stall if necessary is so good)

[quiet plaza]

(true true)

OH POG okay fire types Do absorb flame spikes, thats huge. pory-mav welcome to the championship team

[spare pollen]

omg do you have a plan for if someone uses frost spikes

[quiet plaza]

i have no plan for if someone uses frost spikes

[wanton notch]

Samorn is the one who does that iirc

And Elise

[quiet plaza]

ah... i see. hm. well

we get there when we get there-

[wanton notch]

Tbh I would just pack a boots+spinner

[quiet plaza]

. okay rapid spin stealth rock claydol is kind of a good lead. im alright with this

• magic bounce seems really funny as a counterpick against enemy hazard-setting leads

its not doing much besides setting hazards + clearing them, but i dont think its job is to get kills regardless. everything else on my team is pretty extremely capable of picking up kills

. actually if im leading with it does it even need heavy-duty boots. or rapid spin. what are the odds that someone sets frost spikes after i switch out my lead

[spare pollen]

claydol could get threatened out by the frost spikes setter

since they may have ice moves 😔

[quiet plaza]

frost spikes setter has ice moves... thats scary...

also yeah i checked and samorn's frost spikes setter isn't her lead so. boots and spin it is

embarrassingly this is i think my first-ever time actually slotting in a mon that can deal with hazards

okay magic bounce is insanely funny against literally any enemy that actually clicks status/hazards, im finding

yeah okay stealth rock lead is still good. who would have thought. lead that sets stealth rock is good,

[sacred gale]

This makes my heart wither. Defog is my best friend why don't you love her...

[quiet plaza]

MOTH IM DUMB OKAY IM STUPID

every time i see a hazards clearing move im like 🤓 okay but what if my enemy doesnt use hazards then its like, a wasted slot. and then i dont put it on my team. and then the enemy uses hazards and im like 🤓 Oh Fuck

[sacred gale]

Like 7 of the tournament teams lead with a hazard setter lol.

[quiet plaza]

what you must understand is that i am very dumb. and also stupid,

(and also i don't know the tournament teams by heart which is probably the main reason askfljsdlkfjdsklfj)

[spare pollen]

wait envy havent you already beat the game once and seen this ...

[sacred gale]

Could also slot in terraform which is hazard removal that's also just an attack, you can use it normally and then have the removal when it's needed.

[spare pollen]

bless your heart ....

[quiet plaza]

mean to meeeeeee

[spare pollen]

im evil this is a well known fact ..

[sacred gale]

Yeah okay.

[quiet plaza]

u can literally scroll up in #🏆-hall-of-fame and see black eagles eclipse force with zero hazard clearing moves..... how was i supposed to know......

[sacred gale]

You can look at all the teams ahead of time. It's possible.

[quiet plaza]

i fought lambert x and eifion do any of those use hazards. i need to check now. like probably they did and i just ignored/played around them

[sacred gale]

Lambert I know just tries to fucking murder you instead of doing hazards.

[quiet plaza]

the past tense had me fearing for a moment that id like, forgotten a foundational experience of two-three weeks ago

like i was like oh god did i post about lambert going for my jugular and then i forgot?? and moth remembered and i didnt??? <- the many anxieties of memory issues girlie

also next fight samorn.......

[sacred gale]

Okay so I may have overestimated the number of hazard setting leads. I think everyone I fought except lambert had one.

But still there's so many hazards.

[quiet plaza]

IM VINDICATED

IM VINDICATED.

[quiet plaza]

THE DECEIVER. I MEAN OKAY so i Am facing at least two hazard users this time around so like, in this case u werent Wrong, but IM VINDICATED

[spare pollen]

envy sweep....

[quiet plaza]

im not dumbandstupid im a smart and wiseful girl

[sacred gale]

Elise Eko Helena Alessa Samorn Zain. These 6 set hazards.

Wait I said 7. Fuck you I was almost entirely right I win.

[digital plaza]

When I was doing fixed encounters only I ended up going through all the trainers via debug, which was a huge help in. like. actually understanding how the tournament worked. There are way too many fights to fully internalize it otherwise I think

[sacred gale]

And lambert has SR on excadrill so there.7 hazard setters.

[quiet plaza]

[visibly shaking and tearing up a little] thats six thats not seven. you were Off you were Wrong im smart&wiseful and no one can be mean to me ever i win

[digital plaza]

And yeah you basically need one or even two (I like two) hazard clearers

[quiet plaza]

FUCK

FUCK

[quiet plaza]

imnot owned... im not owned.......

[sacred gale]

Your utter ignorance impressively allowed you to roll the absolute minimum hazards the first time.

Congratulations!

[quiet plaza]

moth mean to me moth evil and vicious to me.... moth literally said "Drown Envy" she did say that literally in those exact words with zero context necessary

[sacred gale]

In my defense it's a kinda kickass nickname?

[quiet plaza]

yeah okay i cant argue there, it is a kickass nickname

willingly submits to being drowned ig. does being drowned count as an entry hazard

[sacred gale]

I'm gonna halve your speed and make you take 25% more move damage.

[quiet plaza]

i deserve this for being wrong i think

[sacred gale]

It's very true it's very true.

[quiet plaza]

anyways i think that the game didnt give me trainers who used hazards because. im cool&special and everyone loves me they were like lets not use hazards just for envy

[distant rock]

[sacred gale]

You never knew the agony of a hazard setting clarity sash lead.

[quiet plaza]

i didn't! this is because im special and blessed by satan. and everyone loves me (did i mention everyone loves me,)

[sacred gale]

I am always hearing this.

[spare pollen]

hmm yes.... very metagrosscore of you ...

[quiet plaza]

[unrelated to the current series of bits] samorn's tournament team is so cool too...

its fun how even her returning mons are in a different context bc its singles

[spare pollen]

the dreadnaught is so cool ...

[quiet plaza]

her armaldo (i think its new to the tournament?) is so swagful... surprised by how fast it is, too

[distant rock]

armaldo is 100 speed for some ungodly reason

[quiet plaza]

it outspeeds pory-z... scary...

[spare pollen]

armaldo is fascinating ..

[sacred gale]

Can also swim very fast.

[spare pollen]

i remember really liking both the fossils from hoenn, that was my first game as a kid

i really want to try cradily especially ..

[distant rock]

cradily is kinda awesome

[sudden roost]

Cradily is the goat

I bet its really good with ||REDACTED||

[distant rock]

leech + lefies + giga drain means nothing can kill you

[sacred gale]

I remember seeing lileep and cradily and thinking they were fake pokemon or something because they just seemed so bizarre.

I need to clarify that I mean I saw them in game when I thought this. Surely this peculiar flower is my creepypasta moment...

[sacred gale]

Toss an ingrain in there too if you're confident in your immortality.

[distant rock]

the humble cross chop crit:

i always think that grass resists fighting
i am always betrayed

[sacred gale]

The nefarious Spiritomb:

[distant rock]

DONT REMIND ME ;-;

[spare pollen]

i thought so too ..

[quiet plaza]

oh i think this a lot too...

[sacred gale]

I've never thought this, you're all weird.

And I'm normal.

[distant rock]

i used cradily and [redacted] into the spiritomb and i ended up killin meself so badly

[distant rock]

how dare you

[sacred gale]

Auuuugh I need to do that fight soon.

[distant rock]

pack wide guard

[sacred gale]

If I hypothermiate my own pokemon do I reverse the reversed healing?

[spare pollen]

hitting you with a fighting type attack

[sacred gale]

Off of what, 15 attack?

[distant rock]

you can also dizzy it

[spare pollen]

wtf

[quiet plaza]

hitting you with a ghost type attack. for fun&enrichment

[sacred gale]

Omg I love ghosts thank you!

Can you hit me with cursed oath? Or maybe hex? I'm curious.

[quiet plaza]

oh thats a good question…. clicks cursed oath and then dies badly (i was at low hp)

[spare pollen]

rip envy ..

[distant rock]

[sacred gale]

Hmmm idk this cursed oath isn't going much.

Are you sure you held malice and hatred in your heart?

[quiet plaza]

youre right… i didnt… because . because

icould never hate women #feminism

[distant rock]

cursed oath's u as a prank

[sacred gale]

Cursed oath is such a fun move, I love how much better it is than normal curse with the iirc cheaper hp cost.

Ultimate avatar obliterator.

[quiet plaza]

i wanna use cofagrigus at some point, its signature looks so fun. ultra upgraded curse…

[sacred gale]

The only real upgrade is that it's free, but that's offset by the lack of recovery unfortunately.

[quiet plaza]

ohhh it doesnt have recovery….. sadness

[sacred gale]

Although it's probably alright with Persian or Gweezing.

[quiet plaza]

gweezing……

[spare pollen]

gweezing ...

[sacred gale]

That's the normal name shortening 😭

Be nice to gweezer...

[spare pollen]

gweezin it up ...

[quiet plaza]

u saying this beamed an image into my brain of like, the weezer album cover, but the background is a strange offputting shade of green-gray and all the gweezer guys look sickly and distinctly unwell

a kind of sad music for when youre suffering an ailment of some sort <- girl who doesnt think shes listened to a weezer song in her life tbh

[sacred gale]

I also haven't so we are both ignorant I suppose.

[quiet plaza]

delight&joy my dumbass bit is incomprehensible to both of us

[digital plaza]

god I really want to try cradily with [REDACTED] to [REDACTED] in [REDACTED]

[spare pollen]

who are these REDACTEDs !!!

[quiet plaza]

dia help….. theyre flooding my home with cognitohazards…..

[spare pollen]

hire the cognitohazard disinfecter ...

[digital plaza]

there is no cognition hazard hoopa never entered the chat

[digital plaza]

it's honestly so good. who knew curse could actually be made a good move

[wanton notch]

at least ingrain isn't good with [REDACTED]

now that would be a nightmare

[quiet plaza]

okay ive discovered that this fight has a particular rng nightmare - bronzong is my (messy but more or less coherent) answer to flygon, but i Cannot have slag proc poison or flygon's hyper-lum-berry activates and i lose all hope of dealing with it

[warm venture]

ack

it's frustrating when a random proc that's meant to be upside can work against you

[quiet plaza]

yeah nodsnods

theoretically i could sub sigilyph in for... pory-mav probably? and redo the first fight? sigilyph is hypothetically an answer for flygon, the main issue is that everything but bronzong in my current lineup is really hyper weak to flygon

yeah eko was a clean/fun enough fight that i dont feel Terrible about resetting here

and the issue is that like, beyond the rng nightmare flygon also just does too much to bronzong (well. one of the issues. the other, probably larger issue is that i dont have any answer for saurenaid - like, makyandibuzz maybe, but that means avoiding using makyandibuzz for anything else)

if i can free up bronzong i can use bronzong into wornet, claydol into golem, makyandibuzz into saurenaid

okay yeah perfect eko is still like, a non-issue with this team

oh my god i think sigilyph sweeps her entire team. or, like, most of it

sigilyph i fucking love you. thank you. thank you so much.

id like it to be known that sigilyph swept five out of six mons on her team - everything but armaldo - three of them while waterlogged

it turns out that it just, sits in on saurenaid, clicking calm mind and roost and accumulating value - and then even while waterlogged it survives a wornet poison jab, a flygon bug buzz, and then saurenaid is helpless

[digital plaza]

positive random effect procs leading to bad situations in context is a road that leads to hot girl shit [finding 100% consistent lines on battles]

[quiet plaza]

yeah in this case it led to the hottest girl shit in recent memory (sigilyph is the one being the hot girl and doing the hot girl shit here, to be clear. she's incredible i love her so much)

[sacred gale]

Magic guard CM sigi has always been such a nuts fun set.

[quiet plaza]

oh it's not even magic guard it's bizarre

bizarre loaded dice with pulsar/wind tunnel

[sacred gale]

Fascinating.

[quiet plaza]

eifion again.

[quiet plaza]

bizarre loaded dice is a like... constraining set for sigilyph (no item slot and necessitates specific offensive movepool), but i swear on it by now tbh

[sacred gale]

I know it's really good, I always just adore magic guard.

Although I suppose that loses value with animated.

[quiet plaza]

yeah </3 magic guard lorb wouldnt feel as good when like, normal lorb already kinda feels great with animated

god. okay. eifion

ahhhh this fucking slowbro

good news: delphox doesnt set sun and just switches into houndominus, which gives me a very sublimely clean switch into rapidash
bad news: eifion is my third tournament fight

[sacred gale]

Wait why is that bad?

[warm venture]

Phione used Recover!

Toxapex used Recover!

[digital plaza]

Slowbro used Slack Off!

[sacred gale]

That's hype though?

I think in the next patch you should give Eifion funbro.

[quiet plaza]

if it helps i was mostly joking (sometimes i say things that arent very thought out, to try and be funny)

[distant rock]

wait exCUSE me discord filters lmao

[quiet plaza]

and the remainder of why i said it was just, i have bad memories of his houndominus from my first playthrough

[quiet plaza]

omg?

[distant rock]

i was calling eifion mean words

[quiet plaza]

omggg

[distant rock]

words i shan't repeat (they were not that bad)

[sacred gale]

Did you call him a stall player? You can't say things like that...

[distant rock]

i beseeched upon him the title of boy of fucking

[quiet plaza]

okay animated saved my ass in that fight holy shit <- perfected eifion with rapidash sweep on. 3 hp. and it took a Hefty chunk from toxapex rocky helmet in the last attack

[distant rock]

sorry for circumventing the word filter :x

[sacred gale]

Horse sweep.

[quiet plaza]

horse is so good at sweeping

clicked swords dance twice as slowbro switched in and clicked scald, then ohkoed everything

also yayyy helena fourth fight :] <- girl whod forgotten that there were four fights in the tournament pre-zain(?)

[sacred gale]

Do you run the free wish ability? It does seem kinda nutty.

Oh Helena is pretty easy at least.

[spare pollen]

i tried the free wish ability awhile ago for a radiant team and loved it

[digital plaza]

it is like. You do have to prepare to beat stall which is actually a significant consideration on e.g. a nuzlocke! But I do think that's a cool element overall lol

[quiet plaza]

oh i run heart of justice on this team to shore up my team's dark weakness and get free switch-ins, first playthrough i used free wish though and it was awqsome

[digital plaza]

only trainer I really hate in the tournament is X (fuck that guy),

[sacred gale]

Just watch out for the funny pincurchin.

I hate samorn because she's cooler than me... it's rude...

[quiet plaza]

okay makyandibuzz is a good switch-in to wailord, but i don't think i'm getting very far with damage over time against that lunch box

[sacred gale]

This is a lie I could never hate women.

[sacred gale]

Lunch box is so fucked up.

[distant rock]

Crazy out of context

[sacred gale]

But iirc it's the only healing wail has, so you can whittle it down once you cancel out the lunch.

[spare pollen]

i havent even done the tournament yet but hearing about it made me feel like i need to definitely fit knock off somewhere

[quiet plaza]

okay this fight is like, super doable

[quiet plaza]

yeah knock off or other item disruption seems extremely good against the curse <- girl who hasnt used item disruption against the curse yet but likes the idea in theory

[digital plaza]

except for the lunch box. because the best item to knock is the one that is unknockable

[quiet plaza]

[blanket apology bc i make blanket apologies sometimes when im feeling bad and i dont know if people want to kill me over it. call it the transfem cover-my-ass instinct] sorry if ive been weird or bad tonight in some way, uni class pulled some last-minute bullshit changes yesterday night abt a major assignment due monday and i’m still reeling

[wanton notch]

apologizing when you haven't done anything wrong is just a way to make yourself feel bad for no reason

[quiet plaza]

this is true and fair, its moreso that i dont know if ive done anything wrong slash i live in fear of doing something wrong without realizing it

[distant rock]

Nah bbygirl u are perfect and can do no wrong

[quiet plaza]

extraordinarily brave girl has done both her looming monday-due-date essay-writeup-things today and is now going to do her spreadsheet thing as well. and then she finally gets to relax and stop doing work

[warm venture]

Fucked up of uni to turn the cool and noble hobby of spreadsheets into work

[quiet plaza]

it's doneeeeeeeeeeeeee

[warm venture]

Let's gooooo

[quiet plaza]

that was so mid but i also worked for like six hours on all that and i got it done. and it really just needed to be mid and done

[warm venture]

That's beyond real

[quiet plaza]

god that all was looming over my head for like. three weeks

decreasing my highest stat by four steps repeatedly

making the executive decision that its fiiiine for me to like. start a new dualtribe atp. im midway through the tournament and i want to play toys rn not grind though two more hard fights

. that said while im here i might as well do a few helena attempts. gives me time to like, ponder which dualtribe i actually want to do next

got bronzong to full calm mind stacks against skarmory and swept :]

[spare pollen]

bronzong gaming ...

you know im checking things and im pretty sure that you could do a harmonic/mystic/scourge tribe run and do well ...

like with a bit of gaming you could get a full team together pre-gym 2

[quiet plaza]

omgggggg

[spare pollen]

• missy
• hatenna
• bronzor (eventually milotic is also an option but feebas isn't)
• vulpix or m. vullaby
• g zigzagoon or whismur
• wild card

i can see rafael being a major struggle though with all the ghost weaknesses you'd have 😔

and with bronzor's slot kind of being dead weight there

bc it takes forever to evolve

[quiet plaza]

nodsnods….. at least u have like, ninetales into rafael. and killjoy hatenna (cant remember hatenna first evo name)

[spare pollen]

omg true ..

hattrem it seems ..

[quiet plaza]

ohh… hattrem…

also sorry zain i swept all your pokemon with rapidash. ferrothorn kind of cant do anything to it

[spare pollen]

rip zain ...

surely if he was just a little more skilled he would have earned his mothers love

[quiet plaza]

😭

dia ur mavis posting gets me. it gets me every time

[spare pollen]

ASCDLKGAHSDG

sorry i just love characters with mother wounds

[quiet plaza]

no its so real youre so real for it

[spare pollen]

its so fun 😌

[quiet plaza]

oh ig i get to post my team in hall-of-fame now, i nearly forgot <- girl who hasnt been posting her showcases down there for the most part to avoid clogging channels

[spare pollen]

omg youre never clogging channels ... boast of your victories everywhere queen !!

doing some quick research ... i think harmonic mystic scourge and caretaker harmonic serene are the only two triple tribes that are possible before gym 2..

[quiet plaza]

oooh nodsnodsnods

[spare pollen]

asdlgkh sorry im rambling i know you already have tribe plans 🥺

[quiet plaza]

??? dia never apologize for anything..... your rambling is awqsome......

[quiet plaza]

shamelessly repeats the advice i was given last night i think

[quiet plaza]

(also one of my existing "want to do this one" tribe plans is literally harmonic/caretaker so. the rambling is literally directly relevant to me in this case... <- girl whos interested in what caretaker/harmonic/serene looks like now)

[spare pollen]

omg ...

okay the pokemon that are theoretically available pre-gym 2 for caretaker/harmonic/serene would be uhhh

Happiny
Lotad
Swablu, Tympole, or Audino
Chikorita or Snover
Chingling or Amaura
Wild Card

audino is at frostflow though lskdhg

the others are pretty achievable though i think

[quiet plaza]

omg...... wait oh my god amaura...

[spare pollen]

later options would be like

• Blissey
• Ludicolo
• Saurenaid, Lugia, Hymnus, Sensibelle, Seismitoad, or Indeedee
• Meganium, Mantine (#feminism), Conifear
• Chimecho or Aurorus
• Wild Card

with it opening up much more beyond that if you also include giganteon a;sldkgh

honestly could be a pretty solid team

very tanky

[quiet plaza]

yeah thats a rlly nice assortment of mons......

[spare pollen]

could go rain and do well even

[quiet plaza]

ill probably stick with caretaker/harmonic i think (mostly admittedly bc i rlly want to use multiple of the caretaker/harmonic dualtribe mons) but this is so interesting- omg rainteam......

[spare pollen]

of course !! i just like doin research ..

i might like idly plan out tribal runs for myself .... a;lksdhg its quite a marathon though ..

[quiet plaza]

wait oh my god #feminism........

[quiet plaza]

dualtribe runs so fun !!

or like tribe runs more broadly asjflkdsjkl

[spare pollen]

ive returned to my radiant scrapper team for sidequests in my game and i love them ... a;lskdhg can't use that dualtribe for a full run though 💔

[quiet plaza]

</3 awawa alas......

[spare pollen]

awawalas…

[distant rock]

awalawalas

[quiet plaza]

omg....

. HELP THE "Quest failed" NOTIFS oh my godddddddd

the point of no return............

<- girl who. closed her game bc the quest failed notifs scared her too much. oh god oh god

[distant rock]

it fuckin be like that sometimes

[quiet plaza]

its funny bc like. obviously i dont rlly have to care about quests in this playthrough, im not completionist-ing on this save file. "permanently not doing things" still makes me sad though........

[quiet plaza]

candy quest done :] im fine with failing the other quests on this save but like, i cant just leave candy out to dry like that

[wanton notch]

also. ultra beasts?

[quiet plaza]

oh im probably not using them, my team is pretty much set by now

[sudden roost]

You don't wanna try STAKATAKA???

[wanton notch]

look his stats go rollllll

[quiet plaza]

funny rolling stats..... alas my team genuinely doesnt have space for single-tribe mons anymore, all the dualtribe mons are just too good

also /gen im eager to like. get done with this dualtribe and move to another one by this point. i feel like ive seen what there is to see of mystic/animated, its time for the big finish and then i get to play with new toys

[warm venture]

Ironically you talk about playing with toys but animated is the toy tribe...

[quiet plaza]

oh thats true....

yeah okay ive made my peace with the point of no return. [positive affirmation] i am not doing another however many hours of sidequesting just for rewards that i wont even be using on this save anyways. i can just go back to my main save at any point to do stuff. i can take my team to the end now

[sudden roost]

YOU GOT THISSSSS

KICK YEZ'S BOOTYYY

[quiet plaza]

</3 downsides: failed alessa and imogene quests
upsides: failed skyler's quest-

[quiet plaza]

ohhhhh i forgot that like, keoni was gonna be down here

[warm venture]

yeah i've never fought a illuminant helix masked villain lol the whole concept feels cryptidesque to me

[quiet plaza]

this makes a lot of sense, i Did wonder why the room was so big on my first playthrough

ah. shit. keoni has rafael's curse

yeah okay half the game later and pory-z is Still the answer to rafael's curse. unsurprising but still extremely nice

keoni rlly funny in this timeline.... literally never talked to this dude. he's Just Evil

mysterious masked villain with an unexplained fondness for regional forms

:] masked villain teal perfected (again)

its kind of fun that if you dont like, do the masked villains' quests, they just stay evil

[digital plaza]

lol

[wanton notch]

erm it's called ride or die

ride and die probably idk

[digital plaza]

except alessa, who basically retains the same sort of attitude (and also is gay at you)

(by which I mean ||she tells you about forcing Yez to go to prom||, which has obvious implications lmao)

[quiet plaza]

(oh my god......... peak............)

[wanton notch]

yeah I remember posting "yeah they're ex girlfriends or something" and the writer was like "huh where did you get that they're not gay"

like it's obviously from the "I made my best friend of the same sex attend prom" line

well idk I guess I'm just assuming this is gay rather than complicatedly gendery

[spare pollen]

theyre so gay dude ... theyre so gay ...

[digital plaza]

it's like

you could read it differently

but you take the rest of their interactions into consideration and . . . well that doesn't feel like the obvious reading lol

[quiet plaza]

alessa asking yez out to prom femalebullying.png........