#Emmi's Curselocke but in the cool kids channel
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I mean that's not super relevent
or a stink bomb i mean
not that that's a huge deal for nuzlocke but still
but uh
problem there is that nothing in circuit cave has either move XP
uhhh xern is available if you want to clarion for mareep i guess
stunfisk is through boiling cave but that's scary
boiling cave isn't too bad
there's two trainres; they're a little scary
question is do I need thunder cage
probably not tbh
I could just figment volt switch and use thunderbolt
there's also the polteageist option i guess if you get heatmor for strength sap and you're not confident with this setup
fair! just wasn't sure how important volt switch/thunder cage were for the gameplan
any dark type
ah easy
yeah
guiven especially how many dark types the game throws at you (especially given there's another one in the town)
it's like, free
volt switch is fairly important, thunder cage isn't too important since it can come in on haerobic basically infinitely
make s sense
lets goi
wait, need the other ability on shuckle
ok now lets go
odd
so I noticed that I didn't adjust style points
But also, that made Artemisia not use roost
uhhh i'm pretty sure whims can just swap on this and threaten play rough
qwll actually not sure wout phsycial tank
it can yeah'
I usually get gyarados from my shuckle lead and it works
ok
switched in on a rend, popped it, got harbor breakered to 8 hp, ate sitrus
Asha died to recoil, here's Anri
Which is a Drome switch for free
in comes bnuy, who gets ignited
I can now switch in repeater, who has the juciest hydro pump here
Amalthea took one, switched to Anri
Asha means I go back to Mortar with a volt switch
from here mortar should just off anri
you mean anri
yes
but yes that all sounds good lol
nah actually she has a Ho-Oh's ashes
and if not then you probably catch somethng with some damage
Regirock is here for Mortar
in theory I should be able to outspeed and ignite, and take any hit fine
think I'll do that so stout has a bit better positioning in case it comes in on a body press
yeah
burned, dog is here
on an accelerock, perfect
its at -4 and burned, repeater comes in for free
nothing can switch in on a hydro pump
Regirock down
I volt switch to kill Haerb
Blissey can stall Auden down to -12 and then have repeater kill it
GG
nice
actually rotom is a bit more hurt than I'd like
this is why we packed bubble blaster on blissey though
this is true
Alright, gonna take a break before Sang
Just wanna shout out how much better/quicker I am now
youre kind of awesome?
awesome
AAAAAAAAAAAh
ok the hyperfixation left me briefly but we back
Time to shut this edgelord
Lets fuckin gOOOO
Alright
Loyal tribe gives my leads the speed enough speed to outspeed and oneshot most of Sangs mons
I have 4 solid mons in back for pivoting if needed
Edgelord swept :D
ok
gonna try and work my way toward sweetrock before sleepy
sleeprock
ah the classic "do money grinding and get distracted by a design discussion for 30 minutes" segment
at least it was a productive design discussion lol
stupid galar fossil guy down
Elder down
Santiago down
ugh\
double avatar
evil...
oh they are only level 48
this is fine
Weird
Slurpuff never clicked Aromatic Mist
...flip
well rip Absolus
Didn't think about Humble
DRUMROLL PLEASEEEEE

Alessa!
why is that so dark lmao
so this is interesting. This curse is a lot less scary without it being doubles
well, time to sleep\
probably gonna go get Clarion before this
you took the screenshot during the split-second fade-out transtion frame
there's a reason I just skip split peaks lol
tbh avatar was way easier than galar fossil guy. I lost a mon but it was very very avoidable
and coming in from the south it's all singles so it's more under your control
the problem is like stat boosting + rend iirc
Just need to watch out for not setting up your own stats so you don't get humbled to death
but yeah
excadrill sword dances or something I think? and that's scary
I forget lol it's been a bit since I actually did this fight
nope
Slurpuff has Aromatic Mist, but it never clicked it for me
Exca does have primeval DDAnce, but its not too bad, and opens it up to being slaughtered by Humble cause of the +1 speed
I see. not sure I ever tried humbling it before
primeval ddance was the scary thing yeah
I pretty much took them out with just Stoutland, Whimsicott, and Absolus
finished off Slurpuff with Ferro but basically any decently bulky steel can handle it
noted
in phase II you can just shove bastiodon in there
phase I even if you can set up Magnet Rise
real menace getting through split peaks is Santiago and his goddamn Digiphite tbh
his team is so annoying lol
somehow golisopod is the least obnoxious pokemon there
goli at least tends to just get emergency exited out
yeah
pretty sure the AI just doesn't know how to plan around slow forced pivot
for me it switched in on sandslashes icicle spear, got outsped and emergency exited
and then later came back in and died to a 3rd icicle spear
but digiphite and dragonite is such an obnoxious core
If the trainer new how to use above it all it'd be gross
so true lol
night!
Somehow this is the most recent box pick I have
And its also still pretty close lol
thats like
pre raf
Yep
But outside of evos and a few guarenteed encounters, this is more or less the same.
Saved a lot of wilds
So probably a toxin core of Ariados, M!Mandibuzz, and Roserade or Crobat
Chroma Clarion go brrr
poison core!!!
merciless and venoshock are great for cleanup once your spikes stick
this is anti-avatar poison core so sadly no spikes
(merciless and venoshock are cool though)
Honestly Venom Drench is doing 90% of the work here so you're probably fine
and Ariados and Roserade are specifically decent-to-good on phase II so you have a lot of room to prepare for phase III
Unless you're trying to one-shot? Which does make sense
Merciless + Venoshock from Roserade would equal the damage boost of Vipershock, but if you can set up Jinx that negates that advantage
one question though is how much time you'll have before the poison chews through phase I . . . never actually tested that ever
poison is not a fast way to beat avatars
it's not; it's just how many turns does it take to set up the one-shot etc
(I have not done this enough to be sure of that ftr)
Big Xern shall fall
ok
@grave steppe is there any duping for mareep? No right?
zero (I am NOT mad)
lowest chance in the game let's go
SHEEEEEEEPP
NOW TO SAY FUCK SHEEP LETS GET HOPPIP :D
(jk getting sheep but probably won't bring it to tourney)
-# But that hoppip loves u
i love how i immediately pressed the button and clearly it was a different reaction
(nah tbf if you want to do something different, sheep does kinda only do the one thing)
yea
Its like, I know it does it
I wanna develop technology
we never did test it versus Eko tbf
but that's more a debug sorta thing
you can see if it works on like the finale or whitebloom or something instead!
Trueeee
Ok, next patch is Canal Desert
Given my sand currently, this is actually a choice
oh you didn't just take the chasm gate?
suppose yo udidn't need it
(thank you steelix)
Saharicaneeeeee
Saharicane goes crazy, and having a sand streamer is nice (menagerie is my only other option for one)
But also Maractus is good af in sand, and Skorupi is also there
you can probably get the on-hit ability from tyranitar at decent probability to
though sand stream is definitely better
yeah, 2 more rolls for that
Yea but saharicane
the cave of hatchign is also pretty dupeable
I think for the sake of developing tech, I'll roll grass here
Im the devil on ur shoulder
this is always the weird question: is it worth trying for the crazy option if the rest aren't as good? lol
which, granted, it's probably still like a 60% or so with herding
Krook is good tho
Lily has provided good evidence for Krook
Ive used krook
not in a nuzlocke setting but like
His signatures suck but like
Krook is a bulky regenerator mon
Regenerator + stare down is a crazy combo
he cannot be bad lmfao
Semi-bulky
it's more like
that's kinda questionable bulk and speed isn't in a great spot
regenerator helps but there's things with a lot more sehp
It plays very similarly to tornadus-t
Where it uses its medium bulk with a vest to unload its strong moves
Highland Tall role
praying for falinks bc funny
Rip giraffe dreams
I want yoi to catch falinks and name it the proletariat lol
kanga is probably the obvious pick
🥺
falinks is RWALLY good for duping potentially
what is the ??? grass its in?
tower first floor and sweetrock, and the sweetrock patch helps you dupe guardian isle and has a bunch of trades for further duping
Tower first floor isn't super relevent
As in, falinks is also in a ??? Grass patch
and if you give up virizion for carnation tower first floor there's potentially florges or one of the bug guys
supposedly accelgor sweeps zain
notable
dictatorship of the proletariat
But there's also the funny boomer pokemon
I don't know if that's actually good in the nuzlocke context because there's four other fights, but someone said that
drampa is very funny
also a dragon
zinnia's voice whispers in your ear telling you to pick the fuckin dragon
pff
if zinnia were here she would say to take the dragon
I think I can cycle out Teamujin here, it doesn't seem crazy
The best gif ever
The babies!
embrace ur inner zinnia tho
falinks has been solid when I've used it in the past too lol
plus like
it's steel
steel types are never bad
ooh fuck that clicked no retreat
(but partners are more important reason lol)

Yeah but emmi is weak and refuses to FUCK IT WE BALL and click no retreat
torkoal
got it
Best use of a master ball
it was relevant in context 😭
I use the masterball on tentacool tbh
real
tbh like
honestly, with the new catchig mechanics, it might even be generally better to use master balls to simplify annoying triples
if you plan the wild legendaries they just aren't that hard to catch normally with the new tectonic balls and such
which deep water is this, OFC?
Yep
I guess we know you can't dupe towards lugia anymore lol
Mantine, relicanth, bruxish
if only
yeah
I did almost bring mantine to the tournament twice; would be interesting to actually test it
I think its a relicanth angle
well no you kinda can
relicanth looked decent into samorn when I calced it, but then A. Sandslash and Talonflame did the thing
if you dont clarion and instead just keep getting single dupes you can run and reroll
at some point I have to test whether that's actually better lugia odds
but that requires like
simulation
annoying and time-intestive lol
yea

I listened to Lil last time
this time I listen to my heart
and my heart says BABYYY
Bruxish?
relicanth is a beast
mantine is too adorable not to come with i guess
lol
its ability with rock polish solos a lot of things
Hes a beet ?
free ride is maybe something for late game doubles
hmm a setup move that does more than 2 stat steps hmmmmmmm
Bella vs setup is gonna be the new jess vs trapping, i can see it
soon bella will go on an anti setup crusade
Twinkleberg
tbf this is something that is less immediately obvious but like
listen i did my crusade for a reason ok, it was actually kinda pressing for internal reasons
it feels like an issue tbh
it's just both (a) less obvious (b) more importantly gamefreak has canonized it to the point where people expect it
Idk i feel like setup is mostly fine in this game, and even a little weak at times
now to run around and look for a lugia for the funi
if you roll shiny lugia can you keep it
i guess I mean, if you go around looking for shiny lugia can you keep it lol
shiny hunting is against the spirit of the rules, but also lugia plays by its own rules
i mean you're just waiting for the contest to end
Like yeah you can build your strategy around it you can get a big payoff and sweep fights but like
Idk if thats a bad thing
Anyway not the appropriate channel and allat
Good night its 3am
you can guarentee wingull heree
Love that silly fish
No luigi
have we ever had a random shiny in one of these runs?
yeah somehow not
i generally haven't seen them do that much, but it is a potential issue
funnily enough if you roll meary she's just immune
weezing itself used to be solid into victorie too
used to?
well it was a great anti-blastoise lead
not sure how it does with hymnus now
(you just gassed the on-hit rain)
this is really just 'hit all the dev team's least favorite things' night huh
take weezing to use the neutralizing gas oooooh
I have taken unfezant in two playthroughs and used it exactly once I think
ftr don't think its bad but
it just happens
I need a dev comentary track on the decision that led to Aipom in Priz west
Ok that's enough game for how
now
ok
was gonna do some money grinding in another game but
autism
And exhaustion disallowing me from focusing on mindless tasks
real
melted down due to strobe lights last night and still kinda recovering
can't cook but can click "approve" 160 times on a find/replace function
@grave steppe if you are around, did you ever use Bounsweet at this point in the game?
I used her against Victorie but I don't think on anything else
starter matchups are all kinda awk at this point I think except for specific things
well tbf tsareena also had to compete against. like. litereally every good grass type in the game at this point for me too
I have so much weather that having a flexible weather mon is nice
like tsareena would look better in a box without meganium and ferrothorn XD
I also already have a grass dark, and ferro, and chesnaught
da driller
oh right you have the sandstorm team
skarmory does get weather fwiw
but it's not sand rush
*weathered
yeah it has weathered I know
noting for the record, but also I think your instinct is right
looking for axew right
works better with my moonglow stuff, but ground steel sweeping goes crazy
in theory yes
axew in stone nest also sets up a dupe for Eldegoss which is obviously relevant
eldegoss is indeed bananas
only thing is I could get drilbur in stone nest if I wanted, whereas that's not an option for skarm
but skarm is kinda outdone is a lot of ways by Corvinight who is also avaliable later
skarmory is extremely strong and versatile
but that's a 1 in 5 (well less if you catch yamask before I guess)
I think 1 in 5 is probably like a 60%? something like that?
we really have to do the simulation on those chances at some point
but
efffort
dw hes gonna get something for that new mega
yeahhh well whatev
this is a tough choice...
thought on it.
commiting
bye skarm.
Rolling Sewer
Doesn't get MD till 60*
It is 48
i'm baka
agreed
Ghost/dark has a little utility but yamasks is both a dupe and a really interesting defensive piece
(and Rotom can be a ghost/dark if you CV)
welp
oh it was death knell not mass destruction
yea lol
right memory wrong move
for whom the bell tolls
funny that this happened to both of us now
exact same setup too . . . game literally has to roll yamask spiritomb yamask for this
Aegislash rolling up with the squad
we got m. ninetales at home
(Noivern is kinda insane though and theoretically wins the finale on its own once you get to the 2v1)
also like
dusknoir
honestly these are all great lol
Tough...
Aegislash goes so crazy, but Noiverns ability seems disgusting
I can get Meary so aegislash loses some value
Already have an Aggrevator so Dusknoir loses some value.
I think I'll try Noivern
ok, enough for now

What other encounters do I have to do.
Volcanic,
Abyssal (gonna do it in a bit when the trainer is easier)
Boiling (same as above)
Eleig Stretch (need to cash in a grass and Crobat to aim for better mons)
Sweetrock (want to cash in a fairy for Milcery)
Stone Nest
River Crossing (do Stone Nest First)
Prizca East (don't want smeargle so maybe relicanth worth?)
Battle Plaza: (need to buy Skitty)
Circuit Cave
Alloyed Thicket
Below Stone Nest
Mirror Tundra
Steamy Valley
Cave of Hatching
Stone Nest, Eleig river crossing, Prizca East?
argument for cashing in a ghost for better duping odds on sweetrock as well if you particularly want comfey (or to dupe comfey)
Cave of Hatching grass is also available now without having to fight any trainers
Isn't that not valid cause its a split evo?
The way that Herding works (or just the rolling of already caught encounters), you'd still get better odds of a non-Applin Pokemon even though it's not an uncatchable dupe
because the formula only counts whether a Pokemon is registered in the dex or not
Ahh
oh, also, the other sewer grass should be on your list. Circuit cave too if you want to fight your way in there (probably not the system itself though?)
them
da boyz
yyeahhhhh
Drednaw is pretty FAT and
....huh
the only biting moves it learns by level up are its signature (trapping crunch) and... crunch and bite
that feels wrong
it's weird for sure
,....the only other move biting move it has is ice fang...
better as a trapper imo
there aren't any water or rock biting moves so it's kinda just pseudo stab crunch if you think about it
yeah
That
should be replaced
oh wait
it also gets stab boosted strong jaw boosted Snap
which is decent but still 65 bp
oh right I remember that
It's technically superior to standard 90BP stab
by like, 2.5BP
hilarious
idk, I feel like it having trapping and biting synergy is also weird
gonna float this I think
yeah he's big bulky
who needs a grip claw when you can lock in
jaw lock is permanent trapping bb
ah that's how jaw lock works
it is clearly Very Important that we discern which of the C-tier options is better
I swear drednaw is actually mildly interesting as a trapper
and uh, he's a bulky water type and y'all love bulky water types
Nah I believe in Seismaw
Just.... its like a low B verses a low D
wasn't a decision tbh
yeah seems about right
Just me being offended at biting moves, like normal
What are your thoughts on frostflow bella?
Durant or gamba?
Frostflow encounters are surprisingly dupable, for what it's worth
so there's exactly one thing here that I think is like really really good, which is togedemaru
the problem is that it's the only really amazing thing
(well cottonee but that's also fixed)
Sensibelle seems pretty nice
yea3
togedemaru is crazy and specifically really good on the tournament because free rapid spin on steel type with caretaker
Tropius is also really beeg
moon blanket is very fun on sensibelle
Caretaker with unique double berry synergy
I'm not sure about tropius but only because I haven't used it/seen it used much
Durant is a known quantity so you could just shake it up, it seems like the wild stuff is also at least theoretically good
119 123 108 bulk
it's super bulky but not sure if it like . . . does much? though you can just do the normal leech giga drain shit
I mean potentially stab 150 move
it's one use though right
1-2 cause of berry bunch, but yeah
Durant clowns on Victoire iirc, so the choice probably depends largely on how prepared you are for that fight
oh true you could just use two of the same
also can just spread leech
durant's also obtainable in alloyed forest ofc
(though alloyed forest is a little scary to clarion)
also, ferrothorn is there
maybe I should roll forest first
maybe
have it
oh right
the big man
yeah I think in that case rolling forest makes a lot of sense
because if you just catch durant then totally roll frostflow
"if I catch the one thing that can make me not roll this area I should roll it"
lol
i mean yes it's obvious when you put it that way but also like
yeah
that's a thing
yee
(there's an argument for amoonguss instead because +1 stink bomb, but i think that's less relevant at this point?)
I dislike that
da goop
I see very little reason to grab ditto
so uh yeah durant
Dur-ant
releases the free Imogene because it's a dupe
lol
hm
don't have a good trade for spheal tbh
Turtonator, Dromeupt, and Emboar
and rotom ig
uhhhh hm
could uh
there's always the volcanic beach encounter, and the steamy valley for torkoal
trade a dark for heatmor and then heatmor for spheal
also that
heatmor does do some things, but its main advantage is victorie, who durant solves, and then its main thing is firefighter and spheal does that better
yea
energy lock pure energy heatmor does go kinda hard in parts
make sure you get strength sap off him first
but not enough that it's an incredible pickup
darks are murkrow, obstagoon, shiftry
already burned your free cat and other cat?
and a. rat
I uh
a cat a rat and a dogcatthing
have had bad luck with dark types

yeah so just turn a cat or a rat into strength sap and spheal
sounds good to me
also fragmentation if you don't have it yet
oh wait
traded cat for G!cat
need to figure out how to get to snowbird
its arbok right?
yeah
That's sewers?
and snowbird is just like right there, first house in prizca west coming from the south
oh wait no its just a house
#-------------------------------
[ARBOK]
Ability = CONSTRICTOR
Moves1 = TOXICTASTE,CRUNCH,PRIMEVALSUNSHINE
Moves2 = FIRELASH,SOLARGLIDE,EMPOWEREDMYSTICALFIRE
#-------------------------------
had it opened and it was easy to copy/paste
NO WE ARE PROTESTING Y'ALL
eepy protest
Protest succeeded
Pike w
where's heatmor again?
Yoink
feel kinda bad for trading rat, but I hope this is better than being stuck with an arbok
Hey it's called facilitating an adoption
skull emoji
Could trade falinks for sudowoodo
what?
isn't the bonsly trade only riolu?
yeah it's exactly riolu

curse of the too-specific trades strikes again
I will end you too specific trades
gee it sure would be nice if we took a look at those
well ain't that what the thread is for right
that's the joke
...frillish?
any grass
that would work
jellicent is also pretty decent so not a terrible trade
oh
do you have Tea from the Tea Store
whims (no), Ferro (no), Roserade, Shiftry, Chesnaugh
OH!
no I do not!
yea that'll do it
it's funny because I should have even realized that because I kept seeing things going 'shouldn't I suggest tea from the tea store' on battles
and then uh
forgetting
toge!!
Veryyyy spicy for tourney
I'm also a huge huge fan of Toge
Was a massive player in my first playthrough of Pokemon Reborn
Including killing ||PULSE Arceus||
nice
I've only really used it in tectonic but it way overperformed when I did lol
lynchpin of my first bence & zoe perfect clear strat before I learned the dark arts
it has the very funny sturdy endeavour tech lol
. . . honestly it gets follow me so it could also just do the dark arts






