Support Manuel

[weak raft]

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Welcome to your support thread

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[fast plover]

yes I told you that, read again my message "skytils is going to add" I don't think it's a feature yet

I haven't played in a while

if it's added its in /st help

[zinc wing]

ok

[quiet swift]

its /skytilsping

[zinc wing]

nice! is there a way to show it on the hud too?

[quiet swift]

no

[zinc wing]

do you happen to know a mod that has this? i really cant find anything online, its fine if it just displays the server ping, not in game ping (which is blocked in hypixel anyways)

[zinc wing]

@quiet swift its actually interesting... how does skytils check the ping? hypixel blocks it afaik, is it just checking for the whole server like the ping that shows in the servers list? also, i finally found a mod that has a working(?) ping hud: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/better-hud does that one use the same method? because it does display an actual value in hypixel, instead of 1ms like all other mods i tried

[quiet swift]

it sends a packet to the server and waits for the servers reply

i can make it a hud thing but it wouldnt be good to have it keep refreshing every so often

[zinc wing]

i guess every 3-5 seconds wouldnt make a big impact right?

[quiet swift]

that could work

@somber pier

what do you think

[somber pier]

would it really make a big impact if you spam it

I spam it manually lmfao

he has a Spanish name so I'd have to agree

[quiet swift]

no but it looks sus probably

[zinc wing]

its just more convenient to have it on the hud instead of needing to type a command for it

[somber pier]

🤔

[quiet swift]

basically tells the server you opened a menu and closed it really fast

[somber pier]

can't you do a better method for the hud

idk

[quiet swift]

liek what

[somber pier]

I'm not gamer enough to know

[zinc wing]

how do other mods do it? badlion has a ping thingy and its cooperating with hypixel to make everything legal (not banable)

[somber pier]

you can do a lunar moment

[quiet swift]

i think badlion & lunar use the old server list pinger

which is the thing on the multiplayer server menu

[somber pier]

very accurate

[quiet swift]

yep

[somber pier]

says I have 130 pinh

I have like 200

[quiet swift]

its the ping to the proxy i think

[zinc wing]

good enough

[somber pier]

is it tho

does it even catch your ping spikes

how fast does it refresh

[zinc wing]

badlion?

[quiet swift]

i mean i can try the thing the mod you sent does

[somber pier]

in b4 server list pingwr

[zinc wing]

is that one actually working? it seems like a random mod which works for some reason, but a lot of popular ones dont

like sk1ers mods

but they use minecraft ping i guess, which is bloked

on hypixel

[quiet swift]

hypixel doesnt send keep alives

[somber pier]

why is it even blocked in the first place zz

[quiet swift]

i think\

[quiet swift]

targeting

[somber pier]

?

[quiet swift]

targeting high ping players

[zinc wing]

from what i found out when googling for a ping mod, there was a ping mod which displayed the ping of every player on top of their name tag and it was visible through walls, so they banned it from minigames

[quiet swift]

tho idk why youd want to

[zinc wing]

also that

[quiet swift]

theyd just be 4 blocking

[zinc wing]

the thing is tho, i would only want to see my own ping

but i guess exposing the ping would allow anyone to write a mod to abuse it

[quiet swift]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

first one is skytils method

2nd one is the other mod method

if it has a decimal its skytils

[somber pier]

ok now ping wars

[quiet swift]

yea no it works in the lobby

notin game

[somber pier]

Yep

[somber pier]

AzuredBlue moment

tho I was getting 0

[zinc wing]

oh thats weird, i am on skyblock rn

and it works

while sk1ers didnt

[somber pier]

it's prob the second method

[quiet swift]

doesnt work for me

[zinc wing]

top right using better hud mod

[zinc wing]

^

[quiet swift]

go to your island

run /social pingwars

[zinc wing]

sk1ers just shows 1ms

[zinc wing]

i dont have enough social skill to do this lol

[somber pier]

rip bozo

visit slashslayer for pingwars!!

[zinc wing]

what even is pingwars

[somber pier]

shows ping

but has like 5 min delay

and you need to be on your island

[zinc wing]

the island doesnt allow everyone to guest

[quiet swift]

what ign

ill invite

[zinc wing]

can i dm you

[quiet swift]

i have dms off

illjust turn on guests

[somber pier]

I mean what

[somber pier]

259

[quiet swift]

oh i was looking at the 1.12 mod

the 1.8 one does something different'

[zinc wing]

👀

[quiet swift]

1.8 one is even worse

[somber pier]

literally me

[quiet swift]

its verson 1.3.7 right

[zinc wing]

press u and enable it in the hud, does it work there? it shows something for me

[quiet swift]

i dont have that mod

[zinc wing]

or are you just looking at the code and replicating it

[somber pier]

pulling a complex

[quiet swift]

yeah the skytils one is more accurate

i think betterhud uses the old server pinger

not doing that

[zinc wing]

skytilsping was pretty accurate

[quiet swift]

yeah it is

[zinc wing]

cool

so

it would just be great to have it as hud

instead of command

or in addition to command

[somber pier]

test the limits

how much refresh time you need before hypixel decides to fuck off

[quiet swift]

i can try to make it a hud

would refresh once every 3 seconds

[somber pier]

that's good but r u sure that's enough to make it look not sus

lmao

[zinc wing]

i mean... 3 seconds would be nice, but 5 is ok too ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quiet swift]

no lol

if they get banned its not my problem

[somber pier]

better not make it then

[quiet swift]

best pinger ive ever seen

[quiet swift]

the packet is the one for the statistics menu

this thing

[zinc wing]

i mean... checking for this server ping like in the server list wouldnt be banable right?

[quiet swift]

also i dont think wd would ban

[somber pier]

if it's that unsafe just make it based on the pinger

[quiet swift]

its 50ms off

[somber pier]

wouldn't want to be the first one!

[zinc wing]

better a little bit off than being banned

[quiet swift]

i mean its not that hard to spam

i can open the menu

and then press escape

in under 1 second

i can also just run the check at a cap of once every 3 second and only if the player isnt moving

the reason the command should be okay is because you have to pause to run the command

[zinc wing]

the better hub mod does it every 5 seconds as far as i can tell

maybe like 4

[quiet swift]

it doesnt refresh at all unless it manually calls the old server list pinger

[zinc wing]

tbh 5 seconds is short enough

[zinc wing]

does statistics show ping?

[quiet swift]

no

[zinc wing]

or do you just send a statistics request and measure the ping on it

[quiet swift]

it sends a packet

the server sends a response

nobody ever checks statistics

which is why i used it

i can probably measure tps with packets too

[somber pier]

I suggested that to you

and yes please I need

[quiet swift]

ping hud first

[somber pier]

sure I guess

[zinc wing]

do you generally want skytils to have only un-bannable features? or are you just saying "use at your own risk"?

[quiet swift]

the mod itself is use at your own risk

all mods are

id prefer if they werent sus because then i dont have to deal with people from sbe

[zinc wing]

ofc, but i guess you still look out for stuff that is specifically bannable and dont implement that right?

[quiet swift]

yeah

[somber pier]

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[weak raft]

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[somber pier]

you should do that

not bannble

[quiet swift]

yo i agree

alright the ping command is being moved

to /st ping

[somber pier]

my alias

[quiet swift]

actually first i should ask sychic what she thinks

@proven estuary

[somber pier]

why only 1 ping

[proven estuary]

what

[quiet swift]

trueeee

@proven estuary

[quiet swift]

can i add a ping display

[proven estuary]

probably not a good idea

[quiet swift]

why

i can just make it send while you arent moving

[somber pier]

no

not moving is downtime

[quiet swift]

or i can legit open the real gui

for 1 second

and then close it

yep

[somber pier]

I'd rather the server pinger

ngl

[proven estuary]

wait

you can try to use the elementa graph component

[quiet swift]

what

[proven estuary]

only start pinging when the gui opens

https://github.com/Sk1erLLC/Elementa/blob/master/docs/components.md#PlotComponent

[quiet swift]

here lets implement gui move

we put something on their screen for 1 tick

prevents them from moving

[quiet swift]

why od i need a graph

[proven estuary]

you can show ping over time

[somber pier]

won't that reset their sprint

[quiet swift]

ok but i have to ping

[proven estuary]

yeah so the gui will stop all movement

[quiet swift]

realistically it wont flag anything i think

i dont think the hypixel devs would put a thing specfically for this

[zinc wing]

https://hypixel.net/threads/guide-allowed-modifications.345453/
In the allowed mods section they clearly have badlion ping display, so what about replicating this one?

Even if its not that accurate, its at least save to use

[somber pier]

so the server pinger

or

[quiet swift]

dont you open your inventory in dungeons

or chat

here

ill make it an option

Off
Sus-Mode
No sus mode

sus mode pings regardless

no sus mode only pings when you arent moving

[somber pier]

twice per run only if new trap

[somber pier]

server pinger better

[zinc wing]

i am just a little confused why you even need a sus mode or no sus mode, why dont you just make the ping itself not sus. it does work on badlion which is allowed, why not using the same method?

[zinc wing]

so a server pinger would definitely be allowed? is that what badlion uses?

[somber pier]

I guess

not that accurate but shouldn't be bannable

[zinc wing]

safe > accurate

[quiet swift]

do you open chat

[zinc wing]

or you could make it an option
safe server pinger
or unsafe statistics ping

[somber pier]

just make server pinger

less effort

zz

[quiet swift]

actually its more effort if i want it to refresh

• either way the server pinger has to send packets too lmao

[zinc wing]

but its just server ping packets right? those should definitely be less sus than statistics packets or whatever

[quiet swift]

the server ping packets are technically only sent when you arent in game

also watchdog probably doesnt have a check on statistic packets because its not linked to a cheat

[zinc wing]

is there a way to just decompile badlion and see how they do it?

[quiet swift]

no

but they use the old server list pinger im pretty sure

you can check yourself

on the multiplayer menu see what your ping is

and then see what badlion says your ping is

[zinc wing]

so if badlion uses that, and badlion is clearly allowed, wouldnt it just be the safest way to just use that then? even if its only technically ever used when not in game?

[quiet swift]

badlion is use at your own risk

[somber pier]

its an already tested feature though

[zinc wing]

yeah but hypixel does showcase badlion as allowed, and literally hundreds of people use it and they even show the ping thingy on the allowed mods page

[quiet swift]

i mean sure i can makeit an option