#Microsoft Syntex

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pseudo cove
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Has anyone tried the tool by MS called Syntex?

It seems like some sort of an app/plugin to SharePoint that is backed by I builder. Gives you 3,5k AI builder credits per licensed user for $5 per month.

Sounds kind of fun and seems like an attempt by Microsoft to turn SharePoint into a Document Management System basically.

But I can't really see (at least based on the documentation) it being able to do anything that PA or PowerApps cannot. It does come at a lower cost, sure, but it can do less as well. Also, includes less AI builder credits than a PA license.

So, I'm wondering if anyone has seen it implemented or maybe tried it and can comment a bit on that. Does it make any sense to use it for organizations that are alredy using Power Automate? Or is it aimed more at companies that do not use PA (and don't plan to) but are in need of some DMS that works well with their MS ecosystem?

Anyone?

jade shale
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I heard of it but i have never known that it is as good as AI builder

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Moreover its licensed from azure subscription id

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It can be used for translation and identifying data from incoming files in SharePoint

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Honestly never used it in reality

pseudo cove
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It uses AI builder, so it techically is as good as AI builder. The question is whether it makes any sense (and if so - why) to use it in parallel with Power Automate and/or PowerApps.

jade shale
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But as far as i understood it automatically detects whats inside incoming file but with AI builder its kind of different right

pseudo cove
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It uses AI builder as the basis for the models used to understand and classify documents. It's not different in any way. It's essentially an app using AI builder. It's just that it's already pre-built and directly integrated into SharePoint, rather than having to build the whole flow from scratch as we do in PA.

AI builder on its own does not do anything. Without a flow or an app to use it, it's just an engine to build models. The models need to be run by some app. And Syntex is an app that does that.

Again, I'm not comparing it to AI builder, because those are completely different product. AI builder is an engine and Syntex is an app that uses the engine.

I'm wondering if anyone has used it and can compare it to PA or PowerApps.

jade shale
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True did u had a look at this before?

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Managing digital assets is a big challenge for many organizations who need to effectively use the information locked in their documents. For example, a mortgage finance company can deal with thousands of different documents monthly, such as contracts, forms, billing statements, and inquiries.

Organizations usually don’t have a lot of time to assign for document architecture and management and in turn, shared document libraries often get messy. They need a solution that quickly and automatically classifies the document types they deal with, and pulls out important information from those documents to make it visible to their users.

They need a solution that aids in file retrieval integrates with business processes, and ensures proper governance of their digital assets. Microsoft SharePoint Syntex does this by turning your information into knowledge. In Syntex, your users create content understanding models that automatically classify documents that are hosted in your SharePoint libraries. By training your model through example files, you can also extract data from your documents and display this information in columns in your document libraries. As an example of its value, your model can identify and classify all contract renewal documents that are uploaded to your library and then display the customer’s name, phone number, and total dollars for each document as a column in a library view.

Using other applications such as Power Automate, you can then customize your solution to do things such as notify your legal department for all contract renewal documents that exceed a certain dollar amount.

jade shale
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It sounds exactly same like AI builder with new name same like what u said

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And cost also 6.4$ something

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Its very less compared to actual ai builder credits

pseudo cove
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Yeah, but it uses AI builder. The license itself provides 3.500 AI builder credits. That's included in the license description. If you need more, you need to buy the same capacity increases as for cases in PA.

Again, it is not an alternative to AI builder. It uses AI builder in its core.

jade shale
pseudo cove
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Specifically this:

For each Syntex per-user license, you are allocated 3,500 AI Builder credits per license, per month pooled at the tenant level, with a maximum allocation of 1 million credits per month. This allocation is renewed each month for each active Syntex per-user license. (Unused credits don't roll over from month to month.)

jade shale
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That sounds like Microsoft want everyone to look at it now like u said

pseudo cove
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So it's not a question of whether it is better than AI builder. It uses AI builder. My question is about whether there is any reason to use it in parallel to PA, or whether it only makes sense for clients that do not already use PA.

jade shale
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Without pa also it works like standalone

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For non power platform clients

pseudo cove
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The funny thing is that all of the top Google search results for it return only Microsoft pages. It seems like there are no reviews or articles about it by non-Microsoft sources.

jade shale
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But then looking at licensing why not everyone choosing it over Ai builder? 🤔

pseudo cove
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I really don't understand why you're still comparing it to AI builder.

jade shale
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pseudo cove
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Syntex is a separate tool, but AI builder is not. AI builder is not a stand-alone tool. It's a service used by other tools like PA and Syntex. You can't do anything with AI builder alone. And you can't use Syntex without AI builder.

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If anything, Syntex can be compared to using SharePoint + PowerApps or SharePoint + PA. Or to an alternative DMS. But not to AI builder alone.

jade shale
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