#🐾 **Beastwarden**

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worthy tapir
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i think you gotta set the skill at the stable

radiant crag
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gota to stable the pet then set it yes ^

ripe condor
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Ohh ok, gotcha

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Thank you!

crimson meteor
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I'm on the ogre beastmaster quest where you have to find the halfling chef, anyone know what area i should be looking in?

hybrid solstice
kind harness
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Yep its the camp just south of the village in the mountain side, lvl 6-8 stuff

crimson meteor
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thanks folks!

red blaze
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wher exactly on the map do ogre beastwarden spawn, im lost

kind harness
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the very far north

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osgul is southeast

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there's roads with signs, the skull is directions to osgul

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@hybrid solstice took forever to get mole tooth, but mole abilities are ||level 5 is digging claw, damage and reduce runspeed. lvl 20 is bond of the burrower it says "you draw upon the instincts of the burrower, bracing against incoming threats" passive buff. so maybe like a full damage block against one attack on a timer?||

radiant crag
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Just found a BW orge that has a deer pet

kind harness
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player or NPC? I saw a NPC with one

radiant crag
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Yeah it's an NPC

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maybe these are clues of some more pets we will get

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havent seen any snake pets tho 😔

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The snow serpents are beautiful 🥹

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"winter serpent"

kind harness
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which three can they tame? bear wolf and what else

radiant crag
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bear, wolf, and rat. They are just different versions

kind harness
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do they have same abilities as the other ones?

mighty sedge
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no

radiant crag
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guys do uneasy and suspicious NPCs attack you or are they passive?

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nm they are not attacking lol

crimson meteor
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So if i trained a snow wolf pup early on would that have different abilities than if I got a bigger one? Or is it based on like the biome

dreamy harbor
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pet get an ability at 5?

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where do i see it

radiant crag
hybrid solstice
frozen jungle
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all pets have diff skills?

hybrid solstice
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To put it another way, it's based on the collar used to tame the animal

radiant crag
frozen jungle
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oh shit ok

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what one is the tank pet

hybrid solstice
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So it wouldn't matter if you tamed a level 1 brown bear or a level 50 brown bear

radiant crag
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but you unlock them so every pet can use those skills. You just have to lv them up

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doesnt matter on the pet you get. Pick the one you like. they all have same stats

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its the skills that are different

static garnet
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Mole achieved! HE'S SOOOOOO TINYYYYYYYYYYYY

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MY PRECIOUS BOY

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Ogre for scale

frozen jungle
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by skills like one has more dps then other?

static garnet
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I almost don't want to level him to keep him that tiny lmao

radiant crag
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lol

radiant crag
frozen jungle
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kk seems cool

radiant crag
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there are also ones that lower the stats of the target the pet is attacking

frozen jungle
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im lvl up my pup!

radiant crag
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ok, have fun 💪

frozen jungle
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thx !

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on more question my pet lvl 2 but wont get no more exp the bar is not going up

hybrid solstice
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Are you yourself level 2?

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They can only get up to your level

frozen jungle
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ok yup

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ty

dreamy harbor
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lotsa wow hunter mechanic here

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stable system, pet lvl, pet family skill

bleak creek
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I’m level 6 and I don’t think my pet has an ability like what’s been posted here

wise onyx
kind harness
slender mango
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I managed to solo the Maw at lvl 5 and got that crazy quest reward.

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Really liking beastwarden but they seem way stronger than other classes. I was taking whole camps with named mobs and soloing mobs 2 or 3 levels above me.

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Maybe necromancer is similar

red lance
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so if I want my pet to use its own lvl 5 skill, I just don't put something else in the lvl 5 slot at the stable? or can it have both?

radiant crag
radiant crag
slender mango
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Seems the scaling is odd. Some things start strong and drop off hard. Coordinated strike seems too strong for sure.

fair bronze
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is there any other animals we can tame beside the 3 starting pets?

kind harness
torpid agate
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So h2h cant use coordinated strike? Only claws?

radiant crag
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ya

torpid agate
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Looks like ill need to craft then for bronze claws or something

radiant crag
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most of your damage will be from coodinated strike. Dont have to worry much on upgrading a weapon

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then later with higher lvs your pet starts to hit much harder with the skills and buffs

fringe birch
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to clarify you can use h2h for coordinated strike but it has to be a weapon

radiant crag
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cant use your coodinated strike skill with that weapon so you are better off with the claws

fringe birch
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so just the pet is doing dmg not me with it?

radiant crag
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It kinda changes and depends on how you build your pet. Early you do most the damage and with coordinated strike skill. Later lvs that skill doesnt do as much around 10-12 lv mobs. It hits good still but not as it did lower lvs. The stronger buffs you get and the skill proc stuff on your pet makes it hit hard and does burst damage sometimes

fringe birch
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I'm just saying it still works with that weapon, right?

torpid agate
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That lobster claw h2h weapon i see alot of bw hse

radiant crag
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not with h2h weapons

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I mean the fists

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the claws do tho

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it should not work with that equipped

fringe birch
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again I use is with that weapon just an FYI

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now if my pet isn't there it obviously says I cant use it

radiant crag
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Maybe they changed it then. I had a h2h equiped and could not use the skill

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ya no pet cant use it either

fringe birch
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it works then I got that weapon from a vendor at lvl 2 and have used it through 10

radiant crag
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well there we go 😂

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guess it was a bug they fixed

fringe birch
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yep np

fringe birch
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Solo I feel really solid but grouping is a little awkward with pet. Like I feel useless if a mob is on someone, I'd really like to taunt the mob off but can't. Anyone else feel that way? I also wonder if I don't want to be that role given if my pet does die I'm useless 😄

hushed quartz
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I'm struggling with the Draven questline. It says mystery so I've been killing the hunters for a while but don't seem to have anything that "solves" the mystery.

hybrid solstice
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Of the missing bear?

hot musk
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how do I feed my pet as a beast warden

hybrid solstice
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"trade" food to the pet. Most (all?) things you can feed to your pet will be called out as such in the item's description. Mushrooms, butchered meats, summoned food, etc. You just trade it to the pet and it will fill the hunger bar 👍

worthy tapir
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if you're an ogre i strongly recommend going on a halfling genocidal rampage. halfling parts are crazy good pet food. 1 part will almost fill up the entire bar

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anybody found some good bw weapons that would replace the class quest claw?

static garnet
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Oh, interesting. Howl of Healing scales off of the pet's level, not necessarily yours only.

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Had a big pet and was getting double digit heals. Switched to a level 1 and the heal is now puny.

fringe birch
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so is there no way to get the debuff pet ability if not ogre?

worthy tapir
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basically never felt worth using

static garnet
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as an ogre

worthy tapir
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i guess in the right situation it could save people. the thing just deletes your mana bar though so whatever happens next better fix what's killing everyone asap otherwise you would probably have provided more value casting something else

static garnet
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yeah it's 30 mana and only for group members. doesn't even heal the pet.

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it's almost more beneficial to simply keep attacking and save the mana

fringe birch
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roar of healing is only 98 mana at lvl 11 😄

static garnet
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A deal!

worthy tapir
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it's a fine line to thread because obviously we can't have bw becoming a decent healer but it'd be better to either actually give a ton of hp and make it a long ass cooldown or having it be spammable (albeit relatively worse)

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right now it exists in an unjustifiable state

static garnet
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bandaging is more useful...

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but howl can be cast in combat.

wise onyx
ripe condor
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Howl is laughably weak. But BW is in such an overpowered state it doesn’t really matter right now.

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Our single target damage and sustain is nutty.

fringe birch
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50% of my mana bar to heal for 36 (9% hp) wow huh

worthy tapir
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yeah honestly it'd be fine if we just replaced it with something else entirely even, we don't really need this in our toolkit at all

ripe condor
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Hope they can bring it in line without over nerfing!

worthy tapir
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i'd prefer to have some form of group buff than a group heal

static garnet
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lmao if the pet is low level, casting howl doesn't even boost restoration skill

static garnet
# ripe condor Our single target damage and sustain is nutty.

Yah. Coordinated Strike's pet side of damage is pretty incredible. I've only level 10 and equipped with the Maw claws and my level 9 to 10 pet is clapping for 34 to 45 damage on his side of it. and mine does sticks at 20 no matter if i'm flanking or not.

And being able to mash Shared Vigor at no cooldown and both of us gain hp (with an equal level pet) seems, uh, unintended.

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In Howl of Healing's current state, I would never press it. I would always simply let the healer do their role. If I need to heal myself, I press Shared Vigor =v

fringe birch
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it still takes stamina

static garnet
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yeah but at the cost of stamina I AND the pet am back to 100% hp from 15%

ripe condor
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Yeah shared vigor and the taunts require a ton of stamina. But that’s basically our only resource that we gotta wait to regen.

fringe birch
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yeah can't really spam strike too much

ripe condor
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Can mow through 5-7 mobs higher level than me without stopping

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Far better than every other class (maybe except bard aoe kiting)

radiant crag
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I can do that on my HK

static garnet
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If a Beastwarden has stamina, they are an unstoppable, evergoing force. Legit. Shared Vigor is incredible, and they can manage their own aggro, and Coordinated Strike slaps.

ripe condor
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And my gear is basic crafted crap, at level 10

ripe condor
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Maybe I’m wrong!

radiant crag
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BW is dps of course I cant

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they only wear leather for a reason

ripe condor
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I’m just worried we get nerfed into oblivion cuz we don’t offer much more other than ST dps with a positional requirement

static garnet
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If the pet is down, the Beastwarden stops functioning almost entirely. So maybe it's somewhat on purpose.

ripe condor
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Although worrying about balance right now is kinda silly

static garnet
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The pet cannot die, or the beastwarden becomes a log.

ripe condor
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For sure

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It’s funny how feckless we, the wardens, are, compared to our beasties

hot musk
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for the beastwarden class quest, where it says go up the stream and kill mosstrooper hunters --- what do I need to get for them to turn in ?

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is a camp with some dude named Rex that drops his head, lol

fringe birch
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left of tent is an item to pick up 😉

static garnet
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Yah Beastwarden is rad and strong, but the drawbacks are clear and noticeable.

ripe condor
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I really love this class though it’s been a blast and I love the class fantasy

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Getting the self sow at lvl 10 was cz_ok

radiant crag
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and with the charge skill to add to that! lol

ripe condor
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Although it needs to buff the pet too cuz you just outrun it

static garnet
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Yeah you can't pay me to play a class that can't run fast (yes you can)

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Also, with regards to damage. Sure we feel strong, though I've got a Rogue buddy. Level 9 or 10 Rogues are doing 20 damage on their autos and they have two of them from Dual Wield on a faster swing speed. So they do incredible damage. Just can't taunt things onto the pet. But they don't "need" to

ripe condor
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Yeah I've been meaning to check out rogue too, they also seem pretty strong. It could also be a thing where BW peaks early and doesn't scale quite as well (looking at my own auto attack damage).

mighty sedge
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I think they are fine, people just aren't taking into full account that the pet is like 80% of the DPS. If anything I think the pet needs a minor buff to hit chance but otherwise it's good.

radiant crag
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Agreed. The dex+ability buff helps with accuracy a little bit

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still misses quite a bit

wise onyx
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The level 1 pet heal is also way better than any other.

static garnet
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for the healing to mana ratio, sure. heal Companion costs more but is a bigger chunk, so it's good for mid-fight.

wise onyx
radiant crag
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Ya the bigger heal skill isnt worth the cost and healing amount. Only draw back for ussing the lower lv heal is that it takes time for the cooldown and animations to finish so you have to spam it multiple times when the battle gets rough

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Overall really enjoying the class. Mana and stamina hungry but worth it for the utility and power it has

brave pier
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can you tame seals?

static garnet
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Yeah it's lots of fun.

static garnet
brave pier
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thanks

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is there a list of tameable animals anywhere?

static garnet
brave pier
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awesome thanks

static garnet
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Still laughing that Roar of healing wants 98 mana.

fringe birch
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I dont think they knew how to balance so just made it unusable for now 😄

wise onyx
wise onyx
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after 15 does the pet get 2 lvl 5 abilites?

static garnet
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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can slot two abilities.

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probably can put two there

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two level 5's

worthy tapir
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i should probably look into that a bit, i don't even know what the other skills are

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i just kept my rat's skill and left it at that

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does the white rat have a different skill or is it the same because it's all rat?

static garnet
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all three rats are different skills

worthy tapir
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damn

static garnet
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That's what makes the little guys so interesting.

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If they didn;'t have skills, or same "species" was the same, i'd be on a completely different class.

worthy tapir
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also i noticed there's an ogre that points you in the direction of getting the white rat but.. is there even a legitimate way of doing it as an ogre? i just assumed you had to just know the recipe from an alt or someone else

static garnet
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super honestly

worthy tapir
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the guy talks to me but sends me to where i'm KOS

static garnet
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Just don't go near npcs ezpz

worthy tapir
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morant sends me to the bw trainer in cover though, aint no way lol

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the trainer won't even talk to me even if i somehow snuck in

static garnet
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right, that's not going to work

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faction grind angle on release

worthy tapir
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can you use the recipe if you just know it or do you absolutely have to have gotten it "legit"

static garnet
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You can make collars for recipes you have not gotten the piece of paper for.

worthy tapir
static garnet
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yeah. long term goal. it's an mmo

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npnpnpnp

worthy tapir
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shaman gets to do it super easy right now

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can probably do it in a single evening if the tomb isn't too busy

radiant raven
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what is the bear heart item used for?

hot vapor
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anyway to regain stamina faster when solo

hybrid solstice
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Here's the reward for doing it. Spoilered for obvious reasons

hybrid solstice
austere jewel
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ah okay ty

worthy tapir
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i wasn't sure because morant acts like you're not an ogre and sends you to the greenwood trainer

hybrid solstice
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I thought there was a patch that made all Beastwardens friendly to all the Beastwarden NPCs (like the ones that teach you the recipes for the various "secret" collars), but I may possibly be wrong there

worthy tapir
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i snuck into greenwood to reach the dude morant sends you to and nah he definitely wanted my ass lol

hybrid solstice
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Regardless, you don't have to speak to the NPC to be able to craft the collar. So for Ogres, it's really just a matter of making the collar and going to tame Fink

hybrid solstice
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I've never seen him say anything other than the collar recipe

worthy tapir
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right, it's just a question of initially learning the recipe, which you presumably would have done on a character who is not KOS

worthy tapir
hybrid solstice
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That's weird.

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I guess I could go test that.

worthy tapir
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maybe i missed a step that would have changed his dialogue

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i did the shrew quest with smollos or whatever until he told me about morant

hybrid solstice
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Because Morant is the one that tells you the collar recipe. At least, he was when I talked to him several tests ago haha

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Now you've given me something to investigate, since I'm not really into hardcore exp grinding during tests lol

kind harness
last dock
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what weapons are people using. i just hit 6 and still using starter claws. it seems no claws can be crafted.

looked into hand to hand but seems that has no level up bonus. like 1h slashing

gritty mason
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Anyone know how I go about creating collars to tame the variant colors such as Fink

tardy otter
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a way to put your pet in a passive mode needs to be added, constantly having the pet run through a camp during a dicey pull is painful

radiant crag
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Use "backoff" and the pet will stop attacking mobs and follow you again

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You can drag from the pet menu to a slot to make it easier

tardy otter
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that doesnt fix the problem tho

radiant crag
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Are you talking about the pet attack mobs and not follow you and running away?

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making sure I understand you lol

tardy otter
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no for sure, i'll clearify

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if i tell my pet to stay, he will stay in spot but if i start fighting something he will run in

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yes i can spam the back off

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but i shouldnt have to

twin flint
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You have to spam backoff, there is not passive

tardy otter
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there should be a "passive" mode or stanby mode that makes the pet just not move not do anything unless i tell it to attack

tardy otter
radiant crag
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Ah i see what you mean now. Ya that would be a good command or something. Maybe call it "Standby"

tacit vault
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I know ogres get a decent weapon from an easy quest but humans dont as far as I could tell

tacit vault
wise onyx
hybrid solstice
wise onyx
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ok

static garnet
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Oh, after you fulfill the other things he wants?

hybrid solstice
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Yeah. He will talk to you about someone with small white shrew. I think he doesn't say his name outright, but he hints that it's Morant. It was easy for me to figure out because I knew about Morant long before I dabbled in Ogre Beastwarden.

static garnet
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Word.

last dock
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what abilities do the different pets get? do we learn more necklace recipes?

radiant crag
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Each pet has 2 different skills that can be unlocked when lving them up. Once you do fofr that pet the skill can be attached to another pet. Basically you can build the pet you like in different ways. Dps,Support, debuffer, tank etc

last dock
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oh so i should get one of each pet? are any better currently i have a wolf

radiant crag
radiant crag
# last dock oh so i should get one of each pet? are any better currently i have a wolf

I'm not 100% sure which ones are the best. I myself am building my pet for dps focused so I'm using the black wolfs render bite with bleed+physical attack. I have not tested if certain skills hit harder than others or have different proc chances. And yes you'd want to collect them to get more skills. You could find out later which pet skills you like most from a website with this info in the future (or ask around) if you dont want to collect them all and only wont certain skills

red blaze
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Any faster way to get leont favor besides killing gnolls

hybrid solstice
static garnet
wise onyx
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uneasy allows for trade.

static garnet
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Goodness. Beastwarden surely is basically only the pet. The warden itself is just a... it's just a statstick for the pet, that's what I feel like. The whole thing is just manipulating and managing an NPC. The companion is the majority of the damage, it's the majority of where the aggro needs to go, Our healing abilities are generally only for the pet, and all the buffs except Wildstrike are for the pet.

This just coming about because I finally got Enhance and Inspire both and my level 11, soon to be level 12 mole is slamming for 42 damage on procs and over 40 damage on its side of coordinating strike. And that's not even considering the level 5 skill procs.

pure socket
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I'm having difficulty tracking down the Maw. Where is this guy?

last dock
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man i cant for the life of me get a bear fang to drop

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killed like 30+ bears

static garnet
pure socket
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I've discerned that this probably means where the river meets the lake but I've had no luck across three nights.

static garnet
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And then just kinda wander around the big water where the small water runs in. At night he showed up on the side closest to Frostborne for me.

pure socket
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I see, I guess I've just been unlucky

mighty sedge
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Or you are forgetting your vial of whatever it's called from the prior quest which needs to be in your inventory.

static garnet
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Also important.

pure socket
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That I do have

wise onyx
static garnet
wise onyx
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"white shrew is smol fren. smollos not afraid of smol fren.

static garnet
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true he smol fren

wise onyx
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that's not helpful.

static garnet
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We'll have to ask Flea.

wise onyx
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I had to stable my rat to get the quest option..

static garnet
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oh, wow

wise onyx
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Now he wants skins.

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He just wants damaged shrew skins now, when does he give me other quest that leads to bracer?

mighty sedge
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You have to give him enough shrew skins then shrew tails or something first

hybrid solstice
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Yeah I wanna say it's like the third quest he gives you? First skins, or tails, I forget which, then the other, then maybe on the third time he starts talking to you about the white rat fren

wise onyx
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Ok so 3 skins, 3 tails, tame fink, then he gives you bracer.

radiant raven
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where do i find more collar recipes?

last dock
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lol you can buff necro pets with infuse companion makes them op

static garnet
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Dang, what if you could get a walrus pet

wise onyx
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Oh shit, you can buff any pet with it.

last dock
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seems that way. maybe not intended

tardy otter
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i figured we would be able to slot 2 abilities in when our pet made it to 15, but that doesnt seem to be the case

static garnet
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Oh?

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Maybe it's for the unimplemented "Level 15" ability

tardy otter
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oh maybe

last dock
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man howl of healing seems to be useless. 6hp for 30mana

static garnet
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It gets better as your dude levels up. The healing is based on its level, not yours.

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But yeah it's not great at this time

last dock
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what is shared vigor supposed to be used for. i am sitting at 40% hp and my pet is full. i cast it and my hp goes down lol

static garnet
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It gets ridiculously good as your level rises and the shared pool of hp is greater between the two of you.

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It's a mashable full heal basically.

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nuts

last dock
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oh i am leveling up a new pet and he is only level 2 maybe thats why?

static garnet
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yes.

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It requires both of your HP to be good

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At low levels, it basically full heals you pet only and your hp goes down. As you and the pet level up, you'll notice a certain percentage where you hp will increase, too.

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And as you get even stronger, you can just hit it a few times and you're both back at full. Not sure if it's calculating correctly, but that's what it does now.

last dock
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doesnt make sense why my hp should go down.

if i had 50hp and pet had 100hp + 20% would be. 180hp

that should give 90hp each? but my 50hp goes down

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mine should go up pet should go down:?

static garnet
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perhaps your pet does not have 100 hp

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but yeah, i aghree, something seems off about the calculation.

last dock
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yeah showing a % is annoying

static garnet
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Because i'll die and be at 10% health. Resummon pet at 100% health. Mashed Shared Vigor like 5 times and we're both back at 100%, pet never leaves 100%

last dock
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we need to see pets hp value

static garnet
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Something's wrong

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But idk what is wrong

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because cannot see actual pet hp value

last dock
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ah yeah i just pulled out a level 5 pet. while i was 70% hp and it healed me now

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the other weird thing is you cant target you or your pet. you have to target an enemy

static garnet
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Mend heals my dude for 15%. If that displays 39, then 78 is 30%.
So maybe my pet has 260 hp.
My max HP is 383.
If i'm at 15%, I have 57 hp

If I mash Shared Vigor, while i'm at 5 to 15% the pet never leaves 100% HP while after a few casts i'm full healed. I feel like something's wrong.

radiant crag
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For some reason I cant use shared vigor. Says "you can't harm friendly pets!" lol

red lance
tardy apex
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been wondering... can you tame a plagued rat? since each unique animal seems to have different skills

trail sluice
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i heard beastwarden was the best solo class in right now. Would you guys agree also? was thinking of making a good solo class just to see how far i can go and thought nerco was the best but everyone saying its beast

radiant crag
radiant crag
trail sluice
radiant crag
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They are not bad. People dont understand how to use them if they say that. I was soloing mobs myself without a problem. Their stamina is fine but you got to sit after 3 or 4 fights. Sometimes you can go 6 or 7 fights on weaker mobs. Stamina is not a huge problem if you dont spam the skill. Hex-knight gets much better when they get the soul skill that heals stamina and you can fight much longer without worrying much about it

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But another thing is you will be mining and all for a while to get good armor. So I did that for many hours then pop that on and you are golden 😁 💪

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had 71+ armour and def 84

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very good

trail sluice
radiant crag
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I dont know bec my hex knight isnt lv12 yet (Not my main class). I'm just telling you what others that have the skill have said on global and in hex chat. You could ask them how much it heals stam in there tho. So far I have not had trouble with a hex. Just got to get gear first or you'll have to use the leech skill more often leading to stamina problems

radiant crag
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Just checked hex chat now. Mose says its not good but I have heard some people say it was so idk

trail sluice
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does anyone know if beastwarden can have multi pets? like if i have a wolf now can i go get a bear also? or will it get rid of mywolf

radiant crag
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You first have to stable your pet you currently have then tame the other one once you make the collar

trail sluice
radiant crag
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He is next to the BW guy by the side of the building

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trees kinda block him a little

trail sluice
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ty

radiant crag
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Guys just saw a BW weapon. Its called bandits claws. Attack 10, speed 3.2. Dex+1,Cha+1,Health+5

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Someone posted it on global to sell

hybrid solstice
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I didn't know for sure but my guess is that comes from the Mosstrooper bandit fort. Just going by what other items I saw someone linking along with those claws. But I haven't seen them personally drop yet

radiant crag
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Ya, havent seen any drops like this. Could be at the fort. Has bandit in the name so some named npc likily

static garnet
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Calling it a stamina "problem" is amusing to me, when every class has the same/similar situation by design. Although, I guess it is a "problem" to "solve". The "solution" is campfire, or hang out with a Paladin. ||Or use Cursed Strike less often and rely on Dark Bolt. There's a lot of skill expression in Hex Knight.||

radiant crag
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ya, ppl just spamming it to much. I run out fairly quickly on BW and mana very fast. I now use sparingly and balance them out. Seems to work very well. Well Curse strike isnt the problem. Its leech strike. That eats 3-4 times as much as cursed strike does

static garnet
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Yeah, but since Leech Strike provides a useful function that can't be replaced and also does nice damage, you want to try to limit the less necessary one, Cursed Strike is what I think. But really, the idea is to not mash like it's some other game and blow everything on every fight without a way to get it back if you're not trying to sit.

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or, of course, just embrace the game's design and sit and take breaks and chat it up with the people around you and make some friends. (but if someone comes in here asking what's best solo class during an alpha test, they're not embracing anything at all, imo)

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or steal someone's blue campfire TCbug

radiant crag
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Cursed strike eats very little stamina so Idk how they'd change it. If anything they'd reduce leech strike stamina a little if they did want to reduce stamina use. But when I'm using hex I use my skills only a bit and let auto attacks hit like 2-3 times before using cursed stike. Then when cursed strike hex is 2-3 and my health is at a certain point I use the leech strike. This helps with managing stamina much better. I remember the devs saying some classes will solo better than others so that makes sense

worthy tapir
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If you pick the right targets to avoid inefficient fights, avoid overhealing and overdamage you can basically keep going forever as bw so i think the resource management is fine. Maybe too good on bw actually compared to other classes

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Never even needed a campfire tbh

fringe birch
radiant crag
radiant crag
foggy kelp
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So I need a collar? Im having trouble finding a vendor selling one around the ogre starting area.

radiant crag
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You have to make them

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Guess we cant get lv 15 slot yet for pets. Maybe they are working on it.

radiant crag
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I used shared vigor but my hp doesnt go up or change in any way

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will take damage then use it to see if that works

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guess its a heal instead

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lol, I'm thinking it buffed hp

mighty sedge
round matrix
dreamy harbor
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seems like bw gonna have to spread their stats around for melee dmg and spell dmg

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maybe its because ogre are stupid but it doesnt feel worth it to cast spells for dmg

wise onyx
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anyone farm the fangcaller set?

kind roost
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You can tell by the player count and post count, everyone migrated to the OP broken class ;D

radiant crag
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People post here more often than other class channels asking about how to get pets, wear gear is etc. There are also lots of ppl that like pets. I think I saw a chart showing what ppl were playing certain other classes more. Maybe I can find it to show later on. But regardless the class is working so far up to lv15 just fine

thorny dome
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@hybrid solstice hey man, do you know how to get the owl bear collar? DM me if you don’t mind.

hybrid solstice
radiant crag
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I heard its deep in there and need a party

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Dont even know the recipe either so that can be very difficult. Would be impossible to figure out. Only clue would be to use the parts from its drops lol

wise onyx
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How do you unlock 15 skill for pet?

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both the pet and I are 15, but it's still locked.

radiant crag
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i guess you cant. im lv 15 and pet is too. so guess its not ready yet

wise onyx
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My pets also suppose to do magical attacks now, but doubt thats in too.

dreamy harbor
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in this game does it mean that it bypass armor or let you hit immune mobs like ghouls in eq1

radiant crag
exotic phoenix
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any ogre bst do the class quest

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on the part to go to the maw but the guy wont recognize that ihave the item or tell me how to get to the maw

last dock
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yeah shared vigor is OP. i should have trained it way earlier

slender mango
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The maw is where the river flows into the big lake. Follow it and he will spawn and attack you

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Hes lvl 8. I managed him at lvl 5 but it was close

wise onyx
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Another thing, heart of oak heals for 100 health.

radiant crag
radiant crag
wise onyx
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yea, it's 50 health + an invisble 50 health.

radiant crag
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whaaat....

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needs to remove the 50 healing hp and just buff hp to 50 points only

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Unless that is intended.. 🤔

last dock
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what makes BW pet get bigger?

radiant crag
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just lving it up

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Does anyone know how to get fish bones and fish oil? It's for leather gear but I'm confused on where to find that

red lance
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fishing.? put a rod inside a tackle box and go minigame

radiant crag
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I caught fish and thought I could eat it to make bones but nope ..

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oh

red lance
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lemme search quick

radiant crag
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ok

red lance
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apparently you fish, and sometimes catch bones? (use discord search and type in what you are after, like "fish bones" or "Fink" or whatev till a wiki pops up and is current)

radiant crag
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Thanks, ill try to look around 🫡

exotic phoenix
hybrid solstice
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Yes fish bones are straight up fished. I don't know of any way else to get them (but there may be)

radiant crag
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ya, i think i can skip that gear and make the other with supple. I really dont like fishing at all

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making the chain stuff to reach the other gear. Almost got it unlocked

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Mean the bronze stuff in leather

last dock
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yeah you 100% get fish bones fishing. how many do you need for a set?

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i had just been selling them to the vendor.

radiant crag
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Idk how many it requires. I just see the recipe requiring one

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then there is the fish oil

kind harness
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each piece needs one bone

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3 supple hides, 1 bone, 1 oil per fish hide

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1 per piece of armor

wanton depot
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For the ogre beast warden quest where is the hafling cook? I poked around the south where the vale wardens are but I'm not seeing any cooks

kind harness
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next to the vale wardens

wanton depot
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Cool, at least I know im vaguely in the right area

kind harness
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lvl 7-8ish

lilac ember
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Anyone know where the two corrupted oaks are? For the starting quest?

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I've been running around all night LOL

mighty sedge
ripe condor
lilac ember
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All good!

dusk flicker
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I didn’t play beast warden during this test just stuck to my Druid but I did see in the ogre area npcs walking around with huge pets. Do the beast warden pets grow in size as they level? Or do you just take larger pets at higher levels?

kind harness
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Get bigger as they level

trail sluice
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Do BW get movement speed buffs too? Saw there was something like that where idnyou ran with your pet you was faster but didn't know if that was perma buff

ripe condor
trail sluice
trail sluice
# kind harness They do!

Have you seen a level 20 bear yet how big is that? Like way bigger than ur character or same height

mighty sedge
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I don't think they get near as big as the NPC BW animals.

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At level 12 my mole was the size of a human foot. If not smaller.

static garnet
# dreamy harbor maybe its because ogre are stupid but it doesnt feel worth it to cast spells for...

It gets better as you get higher in there. Fire Claw starts doing 20 and Frost Bite does like 50 to 60 around level 10 through 12. Mana is limited, so you're not casting those often without a good campfire and Frost Bite has a cooldown in the first place, but if you've got the resources, casting Fire Claw is more damage than your auto-attack white damage. But I always start my fights with Toxic Bite and ensure it is always up.

static garnet
fair temple
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am I missing something here? I have multiple pets 5+, and the current pet is level 16 but I only have the level 5 slot open to put an ability in

static garnet
sudden jackal
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Anyone know where the halfling chef spawns for the ogre BW quest?

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I found cooks but no chef unless they are in a higher level area

static garnet
# sudden jackal Anyone know where the halfling chef spawns for the ogre BW quest?

Go down the hill. To the right is a small halfling camp of level 2's and 3's and stuff. Behind their tents is a cliff with level 5 and 6 halflings up there along with some scareogres (The scareogres should be what tip you off to the location of the quest objective, since that's what was mentioned in the quest dialogue). There is an opening in the cliffside that has some cramped rooms and a halfling COOK in there. The cook is level 3 and drops the extract on an uncommon drop.

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There is no halfling CHEF.

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only Cook.

sudden jackal
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aha tyvm i missed the reading part all the way

static garnet
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Should be changed to avoid confusion, I agree, but that's this kind of game. "It's obscure on purpose, because that's how everquest was! isn't that awesome!?"

mighty sedge
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I've found it kind of awesome in most cases anyway. The quests that point me to the right area and I can figure it out based on the quest text from there.

static garnet
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Yeah, when they tell you the general area, that's cool. But when they don't, and there's plenty that don't, it's not.

hybrid solstice
# mighty sedge At level 12 my mole was the size of a human foot. If not smaller.

Yeah, given the scaling for BW pets I've seen, it seems like the mole pet is never going to get even as big as the giant ones that you had to kill to tame it in the first place. And I agree, I don't think pets in general will ever get as big as the Ogre BW NPCs. Which is a little too bad, but they would be pretty disruptive for end game stuff, like raids. But I'm of the opinion that every pet class needs to have a pet shrink spell/ability just to help make them not in the way for that end game stuff, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't want to run around with a bear that's bigger than me 😄

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To summarize: I want big ol' huge pets, but I want to be able to visually shrink them for when it matters (but then unlike EQ, click off the shrink to make 'em big again when appropriate)

mighty sedge
hybrid solstice
mighty sedge
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Specifically pet shrink at a higher percentage reduce than player shrink

kind harness
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Yep exactly gif big pets!

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Mole is hilariously small though 🤣

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Can anyone answer if I need to stable current pet to tame a new one? I did that anyway but never confirmed

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I want to take trip north and see if I can tame ogre pets but I'm not friendly with em

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I've got all the other ones minus owl bear

split orbit
crystal maple
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frost claw just polar bears or all bear pets?

static garnet
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Each pet has their own skills.

crystal maple
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the reason i ask this is because shrews in the ogre area are considered brown rats

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as pets

hybrid solstice
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Every pet variant (white bear, brown bear, black rat, white rat) gets unique skills

worthy tapir
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yeah the game has no awareness of pet "families" so to speak like you would find in other games, different rats, different bears, they're just completely different pets and not "rats" and "bears"

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it does allow for a lot more variety in those skills to get, which i like a lot

kindred pagoda
mighty sedge
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All of the animals.

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Snakes, gators, frogs, boars, stags, spiders, etc. All the things.

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Hopefully a sloth even.

kindred pagoda
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One of these tests someone will spill the beans on the owlbear collar so I can tame that b4 a wipe

mighty sedge
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I think that collar is a drop not a recipe

kindred pagoda
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oh? figured they were all crafted

mighty sedge
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Nope

kindred pagoda
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Interesting, I assume it drops in HH then

mighty sedge
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Somewhere deep in Blockburrow, yea

kindred pagoda
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#goals

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wonder what the owlbear pet abilities are

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Haven't seen anyone post them yet

radiant crag
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Well I stopped using mend healing and started using Shared vigor. It is great but there is a draw back with it. The lower the health of both of you during battle the less it heals and more stamina you use to heal. Also coordinated strike is used far less bec you save stamina to fight longer so you deal less damage but are more tanky. Its like balancing everything out. At first I thought it was too good, but you are giving up some things to keep going. As an exampe shared vigor was only healing 5-10% of pet and i was like what. No 30%+ so i saw that my player hp and pet were both lower and then that hit me lol

round matrix
kindred pagoda
round matrix
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Item that leads you to a collar that then gets used

kindred pagoda
kind harness
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fink ❤️

static garnet
static garnet
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oh no i am at 5% hp. But my pet is at 100% (or the other way around)
presses Shared Vigor thrice
Wahoo, we are both at full.

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That's another thing that grinds my gears, actually. You don't want to "share" aggro, neither. Spreading damage between the two of you is detrimental. It has to be all on one of you. Feeling less and less like a team everytime I talk about it lmao

radiant crag
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I see what you mean. I was fighting lv 12 at 15 so I didnt think it was that potant. Didnt try at same lv mobs. So you prob know more about it than I do. It does seem I'm immortal but I was fighting lower lv mobs so that could be why I thought it was fine. Are you still like that when fighting same lv mobs? If so then it really does need a nerf

static garnet
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At level 12, I was kicking the butts of those level 15 Vale Skirmisher halfling dudes and everyone else down there at the war line between the Ogre and Halfling camps in Ardent Vale because of Shared Vigor's effectiveness.

static garnet
radiant crag
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Ah, so it could possible be a broken skill bec its not calculating correctly

merry musk
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how do you event cast Shared Vigor? If i target my pet and cast, it says "you cant harm friendly pets!". If i target myself, it doesnt work either. And it doesnt work when targeting a mob

static garnet
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Could be. It's too good as it currently operates.

static garnet
merry musk
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so a mob?

static garnet
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It does work when targeting a mob.

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You must be close to the mob

merry musk
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ive tried it a bunch of times and it hasnt worked yet

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ill try again

static garnet
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Also works on friendly NPCs, because they are also mobs 🙂

radiant crag
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Ya, fighting mobs +3 lvs above you and still going is not a good sign. I can see fighting 1-2 of them then resting but not continiously

kind harness
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Test goal complete!

static garnet
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nice work drake 😮

radiant crag
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ya, you almost caught them all

kind harness
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So the ogre BW faction is uneasy with human BW even though Osgul hates me

radiant crag
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ya

kind harness
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So you can use vendors and such in BW area

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Makes it easier to get the Ogre BW pets I was ready to run back and forth to stable them lol

radiant crag
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I'm trying my best not to kill orges to lv up bec I want them to like me.. its hard bec I dont know where lv16+ mobs are

static garnet
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level 16s are downstairs TCbug

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oh or in the place

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the uhhhhh

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that purple meadow place

radiant crag
radiant crag
static garnet
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It's got some sprites and racoons [sic] that are + level to me, so they'll jack you up, brother lmao

radiant crag
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lol, if they lv 16 then it'll work

static garnet
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i'd lose a fight with a raccoon both irl and in game

radiant crag
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Maybe I should stop using shared vigor then. Since its broken. I can go back to mend heal since its decent heal and mana cost is good

kind harness
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@hybrid solstice gray wolf abilities are ||lvl 5: tracking bite, DoT and defense debuff lvl 20: bond of pack, run speed buff passive "in all environments"|| the shrew is ||lvl 5: rotbite just a DoT lvl 20: bond of the scavanger, passive lifesteal proc (could be strong depending on numbers!)|| the polar bear is ||lvl 5: frost claw, physical damage strike and attack speed slow and lvl 20: bond of the frost guard which sounds like thorns||

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And I think that's all of them!

radiant crag
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Ya only one left is owlbear which I heard is very hard to get unless you have pt. Some how figure out how to craft collar..

kind harness
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we need some theory crafting of pet skill builds with all those 😄

kind harness
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never seen one

radiant crag
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I've never seen anyone with it

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but even if you found it you need a recipe or the collar will be impossible

hybrid solstice
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I have seen one person with it. I'm willing to bet there are more, but I've only ever seen one.

radiant crag
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Hmm, should have asked them how they got collar and all lol

kind harness
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missed fink, ||lvl 5 is albino bite, dot and reduce attack damage of target debuff and lvl 20: bond of aberration damage absorbtion||

hybrid solstice
radiant crag
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makes sense. I will probably never figure it out so I ask instead. I'd look for hours and will just give up eventually

kind harness
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establish a goal and work towards it 🙂

radiant crag
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Well, I almost did for the mole lol but I got it! 💪

hybrid solstice
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Got a long ways until launch, still plenty of time to figure it out (or have it change, lol)

radiant crag
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Very true. Well, we have each other to combine our noggins if a pet is tough to find/get

tardy apex
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refresh my memory, do the animal types have diff stats too or just the abilities and the animal is essentially pure cosmetic?

radiant crag
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The animal is cosmetic. Lv, skill slots, and buffs make them stronger. You can build your pet to be dps or tanky etc

kind harness
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And with input from people here maybe change for the better/funner 😉

tardy apex
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k, so it's basically a weird blue mage sort of thing where getting pets is all about the abilities and pets themselves provide nothing else

radiant crag
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Well, they can also give you skills to use too! Well, ya the pet by itself does not have different stats etc (hope I'm answering correctly your question)

kind harness
tardy apex
kind harness
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i dont know if specific pets also have different stats, dont think so right now, maybe that could be a thing in the future too

radiant crag
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ya 😁

tardy apex
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still sounds like a lot of fun, just curious if eventually there will be value in the animals themselves in terms of stats

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does seem a little funny to think of a rat tanking as good as a polar bear

kind harness
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evasion tank!

tardy apex
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rat be spitting out utsusemi ni

radiant crag
kind harness
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That could be neat

hybrid solstice
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I wonder if other classes are going to have as much horizontal grind as Beastwardens lol. Imagine having 20 pets you have to level up to 50 each to get all of their best abilities. That's a loooot of grinding, lol

tardy apex
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rookie numbers

static garnet
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And then consider that if you start from level 1 because of neglect or you catch a new one, that pet currently doesn't get exp if you fight something that wouldn't give you exp.

tardy apex
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I could see beekeeping/brewing/cooking tying into specialty stats for BW pets

static garnet
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So if you needed your pet in order to simply survive, well it's time to find a party where you don't need to be the main or even "a" contributor so your pet can level.

tardy apex
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it does sound fun and stressful at the same time, almost wanna be rotating pets intentionally

kind harness
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When i tamed fink and he went to lvl 1 it was a PITA to get him even to me for sure, that will definately be harder as we level up more. I think because the pet is such a significant part of your damage when you can't use them you realize how weak your main character is

radiant crag
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I think the reward for lving them up is the price with unlocking skills. Althouh it will take a long time. You got to switch pets when your pet is max lv

tardy apex
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so if you're 20 and your pet is 1, it'll get exp, right? won't it catch up hella fast?

kind harness
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yes, it does, but your combat power is BAD

tardy apex
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gotcha

kind harness
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since coordinated strike scales off pet lvl and is your main damage source

tardy apex
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are any of the pet skills group buffs?

round matrix
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most

kind harness
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so basically best way is have friends to group with that dont mind you being weak lol

tardy apex
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seems like you'd wanna prioritize those to appease groups while you sit there like a bad EQ cleric

radiant crag
hybrid solstice
round matrix
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pets get accelerated xp when you fight lower lvl enemies

radiant crag
hybrid solstice
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Is it really accelerated exp? Or is it just.... exp? (Whereas before they wouldn't?)

static garnet
hybrid solstice
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I still think there needs to be something else. Like maybe passive exp gain (slow) while they're stabled, but it requires some level of either coin payment or some reagent to provide to the stablemaster, and if it runs out, then they no longer gain passive exp? I dunno

tardy apex
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I am pretty hype that I really enjoy WAZ and likely will BW as well, seems I'll want the WAZ to help twink out the BW a bit

round matrix
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Owlbear lvl 5 is damage and slow
lvl 20 is thorns

static garnet
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such a strong neck on these creatures.

tardy apex
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"allright team, we're about to get some good pixels from this named!" owlbear yeet "where'd the name go"

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yeah on second thought, thorns is good

radiant crag
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Wonder what thorns does? Maybe when pet is hit the mob takes damage?

tardy apex
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that's traditional thorns mechanic

radiant crag
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Ah i see

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lv16 now. Need to find that purple meadow place

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You know what. I bet its at those purple trees on map

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lol

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The raccons are op lol. +++

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very pretty here

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nope, nothin here to fight within lv

crystal maple
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warding 100. primal claws not working or is just flavor text?

static garnet
# radiant crag nope, nothin here to fight within lv

might try across the river south from there. Boars and bandits and Mantises and stuff like that.
Or in the hills of willowbrook / ardent vale. there's some big satyrs around there I think.
or deep in dungeons, like the imp mine in willowbrook or down a couple floors of harborview crypt

radiant crag
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Thank you! I'll takea look see

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found the bandits and all

mighty sedge
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Pretty sure all of that info was in various (or the same?) updat

radiant crag
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shadowgrove is really cool looking forest

wanton depot
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How do we find new ways to build collars or is it just the starting ones?

The gators near the ogre BW area would make cool pets

worthy tapir
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there are quests that guide you towards figuring out and i heard there's one you simply drop the collar for

radiant crag
hybrid solstice
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Each race, currently, starts with a newbie note that outlines the 3 collar recipes they "know." So the two of those combined encompass 6 or the 9 possible pets. 2 of the others, you can observe NPCs out in the world that have little beast pets with them; you talk to them to figure out how to craft those collars, and then there's 1 more which I don't know a lot about (either how to craft the collar, or I don't know how players figured it out)

radiant crag
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maybe the owlbear drops its collar lol

hybrid solstice
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That's possible, and the most probably because hiddentree indicated that at least 1 collar was a drop. But I also was told by someone that it was crafted. So maybe it's both?

Anyway I just... don't know. And that's kind of exciting to me, lol

worthy tapir
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i did hear people talk about a collar that drops from killing something

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but never knew which or what

hybrid solstice
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My understanding was that it was a crafted collar but who knows if I got bad info

worthy tapir
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yeah no idea

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time to find a player with it and assault them for info

hybrid solstice
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Heh

kindred pagoda
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I've only seen 1 player with an owlbear pet, during the last big test, and he wouldnt say how he got it so

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other than that it was in Hillshade Hallow

hybrid solstice
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I actually respect that, lol

kindred pagoda
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I don't, don't gatekeep info from people who want it lol, I get not posting spoilers but some of us don't want to solve a puzzle to get a pet

hybrid solstice
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Fair enough.

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To each their own.

radiant crag
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we should group up for the owlbear sometime and get it lol. Make it a quest for BW

hybrid solstice
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I gotta get my BW higher than level 11 first 😬

radiant crag
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ouch..

kindred pagoda
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Yeah IDK how high you need to be for the owlbears, I'd assume if its deep into the dungeon probably 13-16ish

radiant crag
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maybe lv15

hybrid solstice
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Too many other things to play with and test 🙂

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I don't focus on leveling

radiant crag
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true

kindred pagoda
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I spent plenty of time working on my crafting spreadsheet while ALSO leveling 😂 my poor bard box sitting at the forge in Willowbrook with 500 lbs of metalworking stuff

radiant crag
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that is heavy

kindred pagoda
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me picking up all the bronze bars

radiant crag
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🙈

kindred pagoda
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I need a mailbox right next to the forge, the 30m slow walk trip to pick up mats from the mailbox is painful

tardy apex
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bottom of HH I believe is level 18 mobs, perhaps higher

worthy tapir
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lvl 10 i'll be fine, see you there

tardy apex
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found Leeroy

kindred pagoda
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Owlbear is my goal for next test, heres hoping its not too long of a wait for the next one

worthy tapir
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i'll forget where he is by the time we get another test

radiant crag
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I'll remind you *pokes eye

mighty sedge
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Just set a reminder for 260 days from now.

radiant crag
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Well, good new is we will most likily get a deer and spider pet since those BW have them

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Wonder if there is one we dont know of

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I have been keeping my eyes peeled

hybrid solstice
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Spider is all I've ever wanted. It will hurt my soul to have to switch away from the spider just to level the other pets for their abilities, because I will want the spider 100% of the time 😄

radiant crag
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You need some pokemon disks

hybrid solstice
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Right? Ugh!

radiant crag
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lol

kindred pagoda
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Replace collars with pokeballs

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throw balls to capture pets

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get sued by nintendo speedrun

radiant crag
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thats one way to run into a problem for sure

kindred pagoda
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Its too bad we don't get a like Beast Lore ability, would love to be able to see the stats on beast mobs, tameability status, abilities, etc

radiant crag
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that would be fun to have

round matrix
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drops an item that is crafted into a collar

radiant crag
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I was fighting some lv 15 beetles at lv 16 with lv 15 pet and im having to spam my healing with shared vigor to keep pet alive or he'd die with mending heal. It is starting to eat all my stamina now bec the beetle is hitting the pet hard. I'm wondering if this skill will mellow out as we get higher lvs bec of the damage the mobs are hitting it with

static garnet
# radiant crag Hey what lv are you?

My Beastwarden is 12. I beat up mobs with Coordinated Strike and just shared vigor when things get bad, which is rarely. Even when fighting level 15s

radiant crag
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hmm, maybe im doing something wrong then

static garnet
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Pet stats scale off your own equipment. You're the statstick for the little dude. Might be you aren't geared!

radiant crag
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ohhh

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armor is 45

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I didnt know they go off your own armor

static garnet
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I don't know for sure, of course, but it seems that way. For damage too. It's a mix of their level and your own stats.

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I can only speak on what i observe. I could be wrong and misinterpreting.

radiant crag
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no wonder the beetle was hitting so hard on the pet then. Although The new armor only gives +1 amor for each peice. Not a huge difference

static garnet
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But I'll Coordinated Strike while wearing a knuckleduster and the homie does 17 damage, but when I do it with the Maw claw it does 45

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and then I calls it as I sees it

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same with the Inspire Companion proc.

radiant crag
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I dont have the maw claw what are the stats on it? Maybe you are healing less than me bec you are hitting hard and knocking them out faster

static garnet
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The best CC is killing the creature, it's true.

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It's like 12 damage on a 3.4 or something like that

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but it has stats on it

radiant crag
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hmm, that could be it is my weapon I havent gotten anything. Just have the 6 damage thing. Having to spam vigor a few times per battle draining my staming after 3-4 fights I have to rest

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Must be the weapon then

kindred pagoda
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If you use hand to hand weapons your bas damage will be around 11ish at 12, vs the crappy claw

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The vendor one I mean

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Your hand to hand scales pretty well as BW, at least till they give us metal working recipes for claws

radiant crag
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Ya, I hit mostly 6 and sometimes max is 10

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so I'll try h2h then and see what happens

fair temple
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I wish you could offhand the maw claw

radiant crag
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That would be cool

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Either way its fine for me. I prefer my pet doing most the damage anyways so I think its alright 😁

hybrid mirage
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lvl 20 bear big

radiant crag
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That is big

hybrid mirage
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halfling for scale... LOL

hybrid solstice
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I saw a Lv. 20 Fink a few minutes ago, and he was a chonker. I love it.

mighty sedge
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Justice for moles! Make them 300% larger.

red lance
mighty sedge
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Pet Shrink for those who want cute tiny pets

wanton depot
kind harness
fair temple
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damage of the level 20 polar bear damage reflect ability for anyone curious

hybrid solstice
tardy apex
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can the polar bear thorns be put on anyone or only the BW?

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Waz's second tier thorns-type self buff was hitting back for 8 damage IIRC, acquired at level 12

kind harness
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And of course numbers will be tweaked as time goes on

fair temple
fair temple
tardy apex
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k, so both the BW and the bear, makes sense. If the level 12 WAZ thorns does 8 damage (at least it did at level 16) then the polar bear one will prolly get a slight bump in damage if it starts at 20

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after you've learned a level 20 skill, can another level 1 pet use it or do they also need to get to 20 first?

kind harness
tardy apex
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ah k. really should try to give BW a good run next extended playtest

kind harness
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@fair temple Could you have 2x level 5 abilities or 2x level 20 passive buff ones?

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Or is it one of any of the level 5s, one of any of the lvl 20s

fair temple
mighty sedge
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fun!

static garnet
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a snow serpent hits deep breath YOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!! for 11 damage.

hybrid solstice
static garnet
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naw brother we do rotbite tracking bite

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or put both ratbites on there

hybrid solstice
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Iiiiiiiiiinteresting

kind harness
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Which sounds like that's how it current is

hybrid solstice
kind harness
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@split orbit flag your UI guy on this?

hybrid solstice
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Very interesting

kind harness
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If I had more time I was gonna level up polar bear for frost claw and pair that with fink for attacker debuffs for group combat

split orbit
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Hidden built that out, but we still have a lot of work to do on it. It is a super frickin cool idea

kind harness
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I really dig it, allows a lot of role flexibility and some creative builds

hybrid solstice
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Even more flexible and creative than I initially thought

mighty sedge
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Same and we barely have any animals so far.

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Wait till we get snake kick

kind harness
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sounds like good choice for troll starting pet

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snake, gator, what else?

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swamp fly kinda thing?

mighty sedge
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snake, gator, frog

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swamp sloth

split orbit
mighty sedge
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I mean I don't mind if many of them are the same ability with different flavor text if it means more possible pets overall.

kind harness
split orbit
trim flame
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did we talk about the lack of crafting weapons for beastwarden?

hybrid solstice
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There were some I guess, Leatherworking? But yes it seemed like they didn't have enough time to add many between the change in the Beastwarden's weapon choices and CAT7. There will be more in future tests I'm sure 🙏

split orbit
# trim flame did we talk about the lack of crafting weapons for beastwarden?

Whew. I took a beating on Beastwarden weapons this test. We made a design choice to go claws + h2h with the class, and there’s a decent amount of weapons out in the world, but that didn’t cover all the old Beastwardens who logged in with unusable weapons, etc in a hurry to figure out what to do. H2H is pretty competitive and sure there was a leather working and a metalworking recipe for cool weapons, but we did not retrofit everyone well enough for that change. That’s on me. Hope the new spell lines and pet abilities offset that disappointment a bit but we’re working to get some more stuff out there for next time.

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Doesn’t help that literally 0 Beastwardens probably had any H2H skill when swapping over. I took an L on this one.

red lance
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ah, I tried to bare fist to test and my skills didn't work. guess I needed a h2h wep? or claw so I just put my claw back on.

hybrid solstice
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Oh I didn't even consider the fact that combat abilities wouldn't work with just bare fists.

silver niche
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Yeah seems odd that melee abilities would not work with just bare knuckles

silver niche
hybrid solstice
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tbh given the way the h2h augmenter weapons work, there doesn't really seem to be any purpose in bare h2h fighting at all (assuming you have even the worst of the worst, being a Dull Push Dagger haha)

trim flame
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So the knuckles I saw

trim flame
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I figured that the knuckles were trash. Didn't bother crafting them

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And yes I knew there were claws out there, like the ogre quest line for bw but still I felt we should have been able to craft more than 1 set of knuckles

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Understandable though, given it was just changed

hybrid solstice
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WIP game is WIP 🙂 we shouldn't expect perfection. Lucerin said the oopsie was on him and he owned it, even though I don't really think he should "own" anything with a WIP game. They gave us an extraordinary test with a couple things not 100% buttoned up. Totally pardonable (if pardon was even warranted). I'd be willing to bet that a small lack of craftable Beastwarden claw weapons didn't break anyone's experience completely.

radiant crag
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I learned this as I was lving other pets up

radiant crag
radiant crag
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There could also be some sort of effect gained when lving all the pets to max lv or something for those that want it

mighty sedge
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So you'd only need to level what you want to

dreamy harbor
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im surprise bw couldn't bonk

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or maybe some hand to bonks like tonfas

mighty sedge
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all about being animalistic\

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tooth and claw etc

radiant crag
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And I replied to the wrong text you typed 🤦‍♂️

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ment the lving part not seeing the skills part

mighty sedge
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I think they can keep 4+ skills but there is a lot of room for overlap. I'd love them to develop hundreds of unique skills for every different creature but I just can't see that being feasible as there are only so many ability combinations. Though if the team is truly up for that I wouldn't say no.

Like you can have venomous bite as a level 5 snake ability that mirrors the rat bite + dot. You can have a different type of snake that does a constrict that could mirror the polar bear ability of damage + attack speed slow, a type of spider could mirror the mole with damage + movespeed slow and so on and so forth.

I just want to see a massive variety in collars and pet species from all across the fantasy animal kingdom, however they can make it happen.

radiant crag
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See that is the part I don't like. Mixing old skills with the new. If one is at lv 45 I'd first have to go through the same skills on the other if I have them. I like having many options for pets but I also would feel annoyed having to go through skills I already have. That is why I said it could stop skills at 20 if it's too much. It seems pointless to add the same skills and wasting the devs and players time setting up or coding them that way and going through them as you lv up. It would be easier to just code 2 new ones and move on.

Also, when I was collecting the pets it felt good to know they had their own unique skills not old ones. So it was encouraging me to catch them all. I'm trying to do a middle ground here where there are not too many skills to code vs lv vs pet options. I agree on the massive variety of pets. Really don't want to get old skills as well. Guess you can say I'm wanting a little of both parts

kind harness
# split orbit Doesn’t help that literally 0 Beastwardens probably had any H2H skill when swapp...

There was a lot of jealousy between older BWs and ogres given their quest reward was what like a 12 dmg claw? Best I scrounged up this test was buying the 10dmg bandit one and that was at the end. I tried the leather duster vs sharp and it didn't feel much different so kept with the claw as I had skill in 1h slash. Looted a 0 dmg -0.3 delay H2H on my warrior but didn't get chance to try that out on BW yet. As a non-monk I have a bit of trouble figuring out what better stats are between the two types of items because their stats aren't as easy as comparing ratio.

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If there were copper/bronze/iron claws in metalworking and you guys prolly wouldn't have heard a peep on it other than the initial scramble from those that logged in with blunt weapons

hybrid solstice
# kind harness There was a lot of jealousy between older BWs and ogres given their quest reward...

If you didn't know, you can see your fist dmg/delay in your character sheet. I don't know if equipping a fist weapon changes what's shown on the character sheet or if you have to math it yourself, but it should be easy to compare ratios of claw and fist weapons because you know the exact damage and delay of both. That said, given the stats I saw of the bare fists, I can't imagine they'd ever be better than the claw weapon I got on my Ogre BW

static garnet
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The bare fists stats increase as your hand to hand skill level goes up. I watched it happen in real time go from 8 to 9 with a skill up. So big hand to hand might rival having a weapon if you've got mondo strength or something depending on what happens to the scaling.

stiff tide
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Has beastwarden always had a 2.5s coordinated strike that blasts? Got up to 14 and that skill felt stronger than anything else I seen.

kind harness
languid tapir
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I played a lot of classes to lvl 4-5 during the test. Monk, Ranger, Rogue, BW, Warrior. Coordinated strike felt like the best move.

kind harness
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I would like to see some more variety in melee abilities in the future. Basically we have coordinated strike, a couple of spells ( i would just use the poison one to pull and consume full aman), and pet procs

stiff tide
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Every dps is limited by a resource, BW goes through it quick in the early levels. Every group I've hopped into, people were always like "wtf is that damage"

languid tapir
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warrior strikes with a big weapon were actually better than coordinated strike, but overall BW felt better solo than anyone and best DPS solo or grouped. but i only played to lvl 5

kind harness
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Early levels coordinated strike 100% is extremely powerful, deleting level appropriate mobs in 1-3 hits.

languid tapir
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it was EZ to get a big 2h on warrior early. And BW weapon options not so much, but the dmg of coordinated strike is still almost as good as a twink warrior with no gear.

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coordinate strike is less Stam draining than other DPS classes. I was constantly starved for stam as monk, ranger, rogue. Because the move did less dmg I needed to spam move more often. I also wonder if Ogre 140 Constitution means bigger stam pool and faster stam regen.

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but since Stam is not listed in the more stats, its hard to tell

kind harness
languid tapir
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I spent most my time dual boxing War/Sham, which I liked. But if I was playing one character, BW is my top choice right now.

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Also leveling leatherworking for gear is MUCH MUCH easier than leveling smithing for gear.

split orbit
hybrid solstice
languid tapir
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well then, coord strike on BW just did more dmg. so required less stam spamming than other DPS classes.

kind harness
tardy apex
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I grouped with multiple BWs and they all said coordinated strike got less OP as they leveled

languid tapir
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well, its absurdly OP at lvls 2-7 in my experience. So thats probably suitable. Plus, they get new moves to start using in their kit as they level up.

dreamy harbor
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i dunno if its because ogre has insane melee stats but it didn't feel like coordinated strike took that much sta compare to what other classes uses

languid tapir
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felt that way to me to, but Flea says it is same for everyone

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Does Constitution above 100 points increase your stamina regeneration rate?

hybrid solstice
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I'm just saying what hidden did 😆

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kind harness
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Needs ~2 more melee abilities

worthy tapir
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i was actually floored by the progressing speed you can get solo as a bw, running around a coord striking everything without worry of dying and quite sustainable stamina usage

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however, a mildly twinked warrior with crafting managed to do it even faster somehow, though i assume it drops off even harder than bw

static garnet
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I played around with Warrior dual-wielding two pretty good spears that I mailed to them and Hex-Knight with a massive bonking stick and I felt rather on par with the Beastwarden progression. My friend's Level 10 Rogue auto-ing for as much as my level 12 pet's Coordinated Strike (22 x2, versus 35 to 51 damage) and then considering the rogue's stamina abilities... the higher I went, the less crazy I felt when I really started comparing and paying attention to other classes and other people.

worthy tapir
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doesn't happen to other casters much because there isn't a lot of room to twink, but all the other melees can go pretty crazy with some okayish starting weapons. the only one i wasn't able to go off with was monk, his damage stayed pretty shit regardless of twinkage

static garnet
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Yeah you can't really juice a monk up with hand to hand weapons at the mo'.
Gotta give 'em two sick maces or something

worthy tapir
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i tried dual bonks and it didn't really scale the combat abilities like the other melees

static garnet
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A really easy to get 1h blunt weapon that monk can wield was the Combat Shovel. Does 10 damage and was rather nice. They dropped off of a level 5 halfling near the imp cave in willowbrook so you could easily run over, gut shorty, and take the shovel back

worthy tapir
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but the right abilities might be further away than other classes so idk

static garnet
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Oh, dang, it didn't?

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Yeah might be further away. I hung out with Fisticuficus (big ogre monk guy) a little and he was using a cool-ass firebreath looking thing that chunked.

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Although maybe the real bit of monks is their white damage. They get a 51% haste buff after all

worthy tapir
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i did only get to 6 on monk so if you tough it out maybe it gets better, but i lost motivation a bit by that point (i'll have to try again with a shaman box just to force it through faster)

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monk is where my heart is and where i kept coming back to every test but i had never experienced the other classes

static garnet
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Oh man, get a War Wizard to cast Arcane Speed on your Monk and then use the personal haste and start machine-gun punching

worthy tapir
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i thought that was just how the game was for everyone

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but the moment i tried bw, i was like wait wtf

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then i tried a bunch of other classes and they just all had an easier time popping off

static garnet
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lmao yeah Beastwarden was like hang on, I get to hit for 40 right out of the gate?

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other classes gotta work to match up

worthy tapir
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afaik monk's not where they want it to be quite yet so i think we just give it time

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if i remember what one of the devs said correctly

split orbit
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I'm mid crusade tamping down some of that early Coordinated Strike damage. I want classes to feel good, not get bored. We tend to enjoy classes feeling okay getting to their toolkit to get out into the world. That one is a bit.. tilted.

static garnet
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Lucerin for president

split orbit
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But also, our claws / h2h swap not being executed so greatly on my part was like okay, have fun

worthy tapir
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i'm all for toning it down a little, as long as it doesn't snowball too hard into making them worse later, because they do become quite reasonable after lvl 10

static garnet
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the homie said early, i think we're aight

worthy tapir
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while other classes go nutso after 10, it felt like i stagnated

split orbit
static garnet
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rofl

worthy tapir
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yeah i didn't mean to display such lack of faith in the devs of course.... just saaaaayin

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i mean it's all testing of course it's not a big deal if you miss the mark next test, that's what the tests are for to begin with

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not easy to always have a view of unintended consequences. until 100s of players start throwing themselves at it to find how to break it best

mighty sedge
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Would love to have another stamina spender than just Coordinated. Would be super cool if the warden could slot one of their learned pet abilities that they could use as an active (instead of passive like pet) ability with stamina usage, something like "Bestial Strike"

kind harness
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If it's easy to tweek, just changing a couple numbers or something, I would honestly be in favor of it. If you set the bar for newbies that it's an OP damage class and then after several hours/days worth of investment their perception of that changes could dissapoint a lot of people

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"At lvl 5 I was SO strong, why do I SUCK now?!"

radiant crag
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The feel is real

wise onyx
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I think beastwarden is great however there are some negatives. The weapon selection is terrible and the pet pathing and control in general is very clunky. For example the pet should move at my speed, However if it's chasing a mob or I send it to attack, it suddenly becomes very slow.

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It can't even keep up with a running mob and attack it.

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I did notice though that if another person gave it Sow, it actually always kept the movement speed, but when I cast the group sow it would only keep that speed while it followed me and would lose it in combat.

radiant crag
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Ah, that explains that. Noticed the pet running to the mob slow too. Was not sure if that was intentional during combat. Seems the speed buffs dont get added to the pet either. Would turn around and see my pet far away from me sometimes

radiant crag
# round matrix Captain Walcott

Ty for the name of the mob. Just recently I was scrolling up to help someone who was asking for the location of where the claws dropped and was looking for that and saw your text with the mobs name 😆

hybrid solstice
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I wish the BW SoW spell, whatever it's called, gave the movement speed buff to the BW and the pet. That way their in-combat speed would be fast too. But I don't know enough about the "pet matches the BW's movement speed out of combat" system and why it works that way. I assume so that you wouldn't "have" to get speed buffs for your pet. But if the BW self SoW gave it to themselves and the pet at the same time, would solve this issue? I don't know that I've thought it through thorougly (wow that's a mouthful) enough yet.

kind harness
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Stride of wild, and yes it doesn't affect pet for some reason.

exotic phoenix
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my biggest ask for the class is a pet hold and a buff bar for your pet so you can see whats on him without having to click and that they pet buffs dont go away when you log

kind harness
exotic phoenix
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im sure they can make it show only self buffs give us a 2nd buff window just for pets in the corner of the screen or something it doesn't matter much how they do it

wanton depot
radiant crag
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About the buffs, what i did was cast the speed buff first then all the other buffs on the pet. Then I'd use the speed b uff on myself as a timer to know when to buff my pet again. This way helped me track that

mighty sedge
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Same

silver niche
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Sounds like good suggestions. Hopefully they see them here.

radiant crag
languid tapir
radiant crag
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Random but on my BW I was grinding the bandits and they kept dropping bags. It helped when I was starting because space was very limited. It was really funny that I was putting items in the mail as well to hold them lol. I read that we might be getting easier starter banks with less slots to help. Excited for that 🔥

kind harness
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Greenwood Beastwarden Initiate: Claws of Wild Oath Now Award for Completing Quest

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I assume they'll also flag quest step to restart or something so existing players can get weapon

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  • Beastwarden: Coordinated Strike Can Now Be Used when Unarmed
  • Beastwarden: Lowered Damage and Flanking Bonus of Coordinated Strike by a Small Amount
  • Beastwarden: Your Pet Will Show 'Level Up' Particle when It Levels
tardy apex
fair temple
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we now have level up animations for our pets

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clearly the next step is everyone in the area needs to know that my pet leveled up. broadcast it to them like player levels. the people need to know AOA_BeastWarden

tardy apex
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Pet level up should make a "dong" sound

radiant crag
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Cant wait to see the pet level up animations! Nice bonus that coordination can be used unarmed! 😁

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I want to name my pet too 🙏

split orbit
worthy tapir
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And play the ding sound to everyone too, without the audio level fix applied

static garnet
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The level up animation for pets should be them rocketing around like fireworks and a fighter jet like independence day

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with colored smoke

kind harness
static garnet
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awoo

tardy apex
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oh yeah, I want my fink howling on level up

kind harness
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tardy apex
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can we get rid of the rats and add in grasshopper mice

static garnet
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can we have the mole do a tatsumaki senpukyaku

radiant crag
radiant crag
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I found this and hope we get something with fur later for BW

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looks really cool 😁

kind harness
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Have you seen the wolf helmet in game yet?

radiant crag
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I didnt know this 😆

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Do you have a pic of it?

tardy apex
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there were definitely a couple peeps who posted an image wearing the wolf cap, I can't seem to find it though

radiant crag
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Found it!

torpid agate
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So cool!

worthy tapir
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i was aiming to make that helmet just before the test ended, i was so excited for it

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it looks as good as i hoped it would

austere sinew
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thats a sick helmet

radiant crag
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The hat does look cool. Maybe can get it next test

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Now all we need is wolf shoulder pads with a pelt and claw feet or something

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Would be cool if there was a pelt cape too. Wonder if anyone heard if capes will happen in the future?

kind harness
radiant crag
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Hope that has a model with fur showing 🙏

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Dont know the level on tailoring to get the hat or shoulder pads

fair temple
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In the last test at least. Everything is subject to change I suppose

radiant crag
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For sure things might change! Excited for the things that are coming for the next test

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I think the "Ooooh, Fluffy" text below was a cute touch. I love it ☺️

kind harness
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You need alpha wolf head for it, dunno which mob that is

jolly oyster
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One of the bandit camps in harvest reach has an alpha wolf mob

radiant crag
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I will note that for later 🗒️✍️

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thanks!

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Another thing I wish there could be is a black fur version of the woof hood and a white/gray looking one. I know I read that some ppl dont like dyes and I understand that

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I wouldnt want ppl with pink or yellow dyed armor running around. That would make my eyes hurt in a game like this. Maybe it could be only simple colors like whitish gray and blackish gray (colors that would fit the game)

tardy apex
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there are different colored hats so if the artwork isn't difficult, I could see them allowing that

radiant crag
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Hope so. Maybe later on it could happen

radiant crag
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I just thought of something. It would be pretty cool if we had other types of hats like bunny hats, bear hats, rat hats, and bat hats, yeti hats etc with their own armour sets that make you look like that animal or creature

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Oh and armor that looks like an alligator with a tail in the back (could be in the cape slot!) or a rat set with rat tail

kind harness
radiant crag
kind harness
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no, they look like crowns with different art on them

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there might be some pics of thme in the screenshot channel

radiant crag
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Hmm, I'll take a look and see if I can find them. I didnt know they had these hats

kind harness
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One of them is a picture of a pickle on it

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I think all the devs have a different themes one lol

radiant crag
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Awe thats cute. I dont think its on the discord. I used search and cant find it

radiant crag
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Oh! and a frog pet! When it attacks it sticks its tongue out! 😛

restive solstice
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What's the point of your 1900+ messages if you can't even get 100 rainbow emoji clicks?

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