Option to add NPCs to dungeons | Quest Master | Page 1

fresh scroll Dec 27, 2024, 4:25 AM

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Castle Town has a bunch of NPCs that currently only exist to add flavour, but I think it would be neat to place them in dungeons too. They could function like signs that can be "read" from any direction, and have the same triggers as signs wherein they can cause triggers by having the player talk to them, as well as appearing/disappearing according to other triggers.

Since this would be reusing pre-existing assets, I can't imagine it would be too cumbersome to add as a feature. The only issue I can think of is that some NPCs like Lucky seem to only have a single forward-facing sprite, so they wouldn't be able to change direction when talked to. I think this would be fine though, since this should ideally be a lightweight feature that wouldn't take up much development time.

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Additionally, this could give extra functionality to pets! Once you hatch an egg, you could unlock that pet as an NPC course part. It'd be a cool additional incentive for the player to want to hatch 'em all.

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Here's a couple of mockups I made of what this feature may look like in-game.

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livid moat Dec 27, 2024, 4:33 AM

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This would be absolutely huge for doing funny things

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Completely changes the funny meta

west carbon Dec 27, 2024, 4:35 AM

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Additionally, the devs don't want overworld NPCs (Especially kids) into the dungeons, but I only heard for a bit we might be getting something else lol.

fresh scroll Dec 27, 2024, 4:48 AM

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Yeah i can see why kids would be banned from it but I think the pet npcs at least would be okay

untold depot Dec 27, 2024, 1:27 PM

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using the pets as dungeon NPCs is actually quite clever

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im not a big fan of using the other NPCs as they are meant to be actually canon NPCs

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it wouldnt make sense for them to exist inside dungeons too, especially multiple times

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but i love the pets idea

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ill add that

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and that adds another unlockable dungeon maker aspect which is nice

west carbon Dec 27, 2024, 1:28 PM

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I will find this funny that we know their language.

untold depot Dec 27, 2024, 1:28 PM

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hahaha

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and to be fair, you have lucky Jr

west carbon Dec 27, 2024, 1:29 PM

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Unless you want to add another specific dungeon part like the lame Beak from Link's Awakening

But, ehh, doesn't seem fun honestly.

untold depot Dec 27, 2024, 1:29 PM

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yea beak sucks

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never used it

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and the pets are so versatile and fun

west carbon Dec 27, 2024, 1:30 PM

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untold depot and to be fair, you have lucky Jr

I'll just assume Lucky taught us how to speak with them lol.

untold depot Dec 27, 2024, 1:30 PM

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haha

west carbon Dec 27, 2024, 1:31 PM

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You could make Pets NPC be unique each one, like the tattle totem.

Started with an introduction, then instant translation (What you wrote) next.

But... Hmmm, well I dunno if it would be annoying or not anyway lol.

untold depot Dec 27, 2024, 1:31 PM

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ooooo

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yea i feel like it should just be up to the maker

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some of these pets are so otherworldy anyway

west carbon Dec 27, 2024, 1:32 PM

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Or another clever way is to ask your Sound Team to make each Pets NPC Intro Voices instead of a intro dialogue.

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Your choice though.

untold depot Dec 27, 2024, 1:32 PM

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lol

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yea thatd be great hahah

west carbon Dec 27, 2024, 1:33 PM

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Finally, now I could hear what Lucky.Jr sounds like

trail fractal Dec 27, 2024, 3:51 PM

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i know how Lucky Jr. will sound like... a big sourroundsound sounding nothing in this chest sound

untold depot Dec 27, 2024, 4:06 PM

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pets as escort items

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OMG

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haha

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imagine

spare dagger Dec 27, 2024, 4:25 PM

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made me think of those boggly woods plates lmao

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you just run aroudn the dungeon grabbing pets and you need X pets to open a door =p

west carbon Dec 27, 2024, 4:31 PM

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untold depot pets as escort items

What does this mean, I can like throw them into the lava or something?

trail fractal Dec 27, 2024, 4:32 PM

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that would be an assassination item

untold depot Dec 27, 2024, 4:34 PM

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yea we could have a "collect all pets" condition

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then you could simulate the ape rescue sequence from twilight princess

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have 7 monke follow you

trail fractal Dec 27, 2024, 4:36 PM

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reminds me of the monkey in lttp who opened the dungeon for you

untold depot Dec 27, 2024, 4:36 PM

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that too yea!

west carbon Dec 27, 2024, 4:47 PM

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This became almost alike that fairy idea the other day lol.

frail sail Dec 27, 2024, 4:57 PM

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Love this idea

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inb4 “ok I know I said only one more update this year but here’s 17 new features!”

trail fractal Dec 27, 2024, 5:00 PM

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tbf this year has only 4 more days left

west carbon Dec 27, 2024, 5:05 PM

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New Years surprise.

spare dagger Dec 27, 2024, 6:07 PM

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"no more updates this year"

1st jan
"so heres the 30 updates ive been hoarding"

pale beacon Dec 27, 2024, 10:21 PM

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I'm thinking of Overworld updates, and how to, like, fit NPCs into that, too ...

fresh scroll Dec 28, 2024, 5:17 AM

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untold depot but i love the pets idea

Yoooo, really glad to hear it

vocal trail Dec 28, 2024, 11:21 AM

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untold depot using the pets as dungeon NPCs is actually quite clever

Also, we should have enemy NPCs too, imo.

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But nice!

fresh scroll Dec 28, 2024, 12:52 PM

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Enemy npcs would likely be trickier since you wouldnt be able to tell at a glance who's a threat or not

vocal trail Dec 28, 2024, 1:53 PM

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fresh scroll Enemy npcs would likely be trickier since you wouldnt be able to tell at a glanc...

True. Although you could put, like, a speech bubble symbol next to it, indicating that you can speak to it.

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Similarly to the "important" symbols next to NPCs in Castle Town, from the latest update.

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Personally, I think that's a good solution.

spare dagger Dec 28, 2024, 2:12 PM

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me adding booby traps behind them

buoyant token Dec 29, 2024, 8:03 PM

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untold depot pets as escort items

Frozen lucky jr

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So we can fireball him

lucid field Dec 29, 2024, 9:06 PM

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Adding npc for dungeons could really enrich the experience 🙂
Recently I was thinking I could create a behourd (medieval sport) ring for two or three players. And having npc spectators could be cool 🙂

There would be so many possibilities with npc for dungeons ^^

untold depot Dec 29, 2024, 9:15 PM

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Yea pet NPCs are part of next update

quartz vault Dec 29, 2024, 9:20 PM

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noice

lucid field Dec 29, 2024, 9:28 PM

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Great ! 🙂

pale beacon Dec 30, 2024, 12:19 AM

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Sweet

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:22 PM

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only thing is that they have no idle anim, kinda uncanny haha

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but still cute

west carbon Dec 30, 2024, 4:29 PM

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Look at them, decorative statues.

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:29 PM

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hahaha

spare dagger Dec 30, 2024, 4:30 PM

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could you maybe code them to "walk" but go nowhere every few frames?

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:30 PM

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would look pretty bad for sure

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i suppose they could move around half a tile or smth?

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just enough to not fall into a hole or smth?

spare dagger Dec 30, 2024, 4:31 PM

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can they fall down holes?

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:31 PM

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oh yea they cant true

minor sky Dec 30, 2024, 4:36 PM

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wait, pets don't have idle animations? oh right

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:36 PM

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yea haha

minor sky Dec 30, 2024, 4:36 PM

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I forgot y'all made them so they wouldn't cause visual clutter for players lol

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:37 PM

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i think it wouldnt be too much effort to give each an idle anim

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but yea its safe to say it will take more than tomorrow hahahaha

minor sky Dec 30, 2024, 4:37 PM

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right haha

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I think it'd be fine to introduce them as is, or with a small walk like you said, then add idles later

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:38 PM

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right yea

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honestly maybe small idle anims for pets in general would be fine

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esp now we dont have following keys anymore

spare dagger Dec 30, 2024, 4:39 PM

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"I'm trying to solve this puzzle but Lucky Jr.'s twerk animation keeps causing visual clutter and distracting me"

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:39 PM

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lmao

trail fractal Dec 30, 2024, 4:40 PM

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that kind of animation would be great for when you go afk

minor sky Dec 30, 2024, 4:46 PM

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untold depot honestly maybe small idle anims for pets in general would be fine

yeah I think so

minor sky Dec 30, 2024, 4:46 PM

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spare dagger "I'm trying to solve this puzzle but Lucky Jr.'s twerk animation keeps causing v...

Lucky Jr. was a mistake

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oh better yet, toggle for the pet property menu that allows them to wander around the area. default is they stay put

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:48 PM

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yea

minor sky Dec 30, 2024, 4:48 PM

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then people can use them just to give an area some life

spare dagger Dec 30, 2024, 4:50 PM

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the issue there is you could set up a talk trigger which can result in needing to talk to a pet that walked somewhere unsafe like over a pit and make things a little rng

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but that's a maker problem ultimately

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:50 PM

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i can make em avoid pits

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only walkable areas

minor sky Dec 30, 2024, 4:50 PM

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ye

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:50 PM

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would be cute if you could still place them over holes and have them always have their flying anim haha

minor sky Dec 30, 2024, 4:51 PM

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omg

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yeah there's a lot of potential for having different behavior options

spare dagger Dec 30, 2024, 4:51 PM

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"elevated"

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just fly animation forever

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:52 PM

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right

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maybe also have pets be hookable?

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maybe a bit weird

spare dagger Dec 30, 2024, 4:52 PM

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pull to you or to them?

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:52 PM

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yea pull yourself to em

minor sky Dec 30, 2024, 4:53 PM

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hmmm I think they should be mostly non-interactable.

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:53 PM

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yea

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i agree

trail fractal Dec 30, 2024, 4:54 PM

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untold depot maybe also have pets be hookable?

i... i had a whole different game in mind (for a moment luckily) when i read hookable

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:54 PM

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nah

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not that kind of hook

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haha

trail fractal Dec 30, 2024, 4:54 PM

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yeah

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:55 PM

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rn my plan is to allow them to have dialogue, an optional item they can give you once, and a trigger on talk

spare dagger Dec 30, 2024, 4:55 PM

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you still having the escort idea? follow you around when condition is met

untold depot Dec 30, 2024, 4:55 PM

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yep but not for the pets NPC

buoyant token Dec 30, 2024, 11:05 PM

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untold depot yep but not for the pets NPC

NPC customizer?

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that way we can make our own NPC's in our own Dungeon

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we could also do blueprints for people who are to lazy or dont know how to make them

frail sail Dec 31, 2024, 4:34 AM

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Pets giving items is adorable

pale beacon Jan 3, 2025, 8:28 AM

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untold depot im not a big fan of using the other NPCs as they are meant to be actually canon ...

~~But also, if you aren't willing to allow your players to write fanfiction with your characters using your creative tools, you probably shouldn't be making creative tools in the first place ;)~~

west carbon Jan 3, 2025, 9:17 AM

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NAH

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Not the fanfiction.

quartz vault Jan 12, 2025, 8:17 PM

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untold depot Yea pet NPCs are part of next update

lies julian, lies

frozen kernel Jan 12, 2025, 8:18 PM

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wonder how moddable pet would work as npc