zenith minnow
for example floor torch says "turn off when i get signal shape " but the torch is turned off and gets turned on instead
same for reset switches its says unlock but then it locks it
same is true the other way around for both items like it says turn on but then disables it
edit :
same with sword pedestal ... it says when shape condition appear
but then it disappears
maybe check the item conditions again :D
marble fable
not sure what you mean
the floor torch turns off when the condition is met
reset switch was indeed inverted
also not sure whats wrong with sword pedestal? it appears when the condition is met
@zenith minnow
can you show me your setups where the tooltips are allegedly flipped?
zenith minnow
description says unlock but the plate gets locked
zenith minnow
marble fable
its just a torch you turned off in maker mode?
oh
i see why
the reason why this happens is that you have it connected to the sword pedestal
and it evaluates it in maker mode too
torch turned on when i connected them
its a bit confusing indeed
another example
this already is true in maker mode
because they pedestal is empty
that door is a closed one that i did not open myself
the pedestal does it
so your example is actually not wrong
the pedestal turns it off
because the pedestal is true when its empty
evaluation happening in maker mode sometimes gets you a bit confused lol
for that reason i might disable it
cause youre not the first to think its wrong haha
zenith minnow
yeah me and the sword pedestal arent friends anyways :D
like it says "does stuff when empty" but its more does stuff when anything happens to it :D
marble fable
wdym anything?
zenith minnow
like put sword in :D
like why isnt this door opening :D
thats what i dont get about the pedestal :D
its set to cast shape when empty
door is set to open wenn you get signal
door stays closed :D
door only opens when you put sword in it
thats why i say pedestal is like "cast shape when anything happens to it"
lol but dont worry
lucky is still number one on my "hate" list :D
maybe the sword pedestal and i become friends some day
marble fable
it doesnt open because youve inverted the door
it already is open
as i above, the condition effects are also applied in maker mode
thats why it stays close
Pedestal Empty: TRUE -> Door opens, but its inverted, so its shut
thats why blocking the effects in maker mode will most likely be more intuitive
zenith minnow
i just placed the parts and gave them shape conditions
i mean i get my contraptions running :D ... no problem
but still it kinda confuses the hell out of me
lol guess i should just ignore the popups and build XDD
marble fable
maybe this helps
closed door immediately opens upon condition assignment because pedestal is already empty
to close it i have to invert its state by clicking it
as those effects apply in maker mode, you see no change when entering play mode
because it has already happened
zenith minnow
lol wtf the door doesnt do that for me D:
the door just magically opened when you gave it the condition
marble fable
can you make a video?
zenith minnow
sure give me a minute
wtf it works now
yo i swear to fucking god it didnt do that before
i even had a small discussion in chat yesterday because the sword pedestal didnt behave like i expected it to do and people tried to explain it to me
yeah now it does behave like it does in your video
and thats also how i would expect it to behave
the door opens now
WTF is this sorcery again ?
marble fable
maybe you had another shape by accident in the room lol
not the same this has happened to people
zenith minnow
no i did not ... its the video i posted
door stayed shut after shape placement
but kinda good to know that it was a bug / hickup and not me going mad XD
anyways thats for your help :)
marble fable
lemme know in cae it pops up again
zenith minnow
sure thing
but i guess you will work your dark magic again :D
like "send a video" ... "bug refuses to show and fixes itself"