🗒｜pronunciation

[red cliff]

yeah i was literally 10 years old on 1 January 2000. And I remember everyone wearing those goofy 2000 glasses in celebration. Though, in hidsight, people have always been wearing glasses like that but I feel like it was more common from 2000 to 2009

yeah, better than this

but you know, the 1990s weren't so bad

we are completely not talking about pronunciation anymore

1990s is pronounced "nine teen nine tease"

[ember hatch]

I think 'tease' is already pronounced with /z/ :p

[ember hatch]

thank you I've always wondered

[ember hatch]

Oh, right, some people say 'ninedeez' or smth? I'm not very familiar with it

That's good to be aware of, though I am going for a British accent. Thank you

[tight dome]

Daily practice

[stone pendant]

Let me tell you a story about a chicken. His name is Chicken Little. He lives in a normal little chicken house in a normal little town.

Chicken Little is neither tall nor short. He is neither fat nor thin. He is neither smart nor stupid. He is a completely normal chicken.

One completely normal morning, Chicken Little is eating his breakfast in the kitchen. (He likes toast with butter and coffee with cream.)

[stone pendant]

try this

[stone pendant]

the second one is better

the first one, too much

let's do some more

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One hot day, two hikers are walking in the dry, brown hills. They have been walking all day, and they are tired and hungry.

They see a tree in the distance.
“I am sooooo hungry!” says one hiker. “Do you think that’s an apple tree? I want a big, crunchy, red apple!”

“Nah, that’s not an apple tree," says the other. "It's a pear tree! Pears are my favorite. I want a sweet, juicy, yellow pear!"

[stone pendant]

i remembered that charlie bit me clip

It's a fable story for children, dude. You're scaring them away, hehe

But you sounded like an old man, which is very fitting for this story. Good job

check out for more on this story

it calls the oak tree

https://www.thefablecottage.com/fables/the-oak-tree

[stone pendant]

Thank you for the feedback

Oh

[cunning mica]

it's for this one

When you say 'little' it sounds like 'litow.' The way you say 'house' doesn't quite sound right. When you say 'short,' it sounds more like 'though

[stone pendant]

Oh

[cunning mica]

yours is really good

[stone pendant]

Could you please do me as well

Anything to improve?

[cunning mica]

I didn't notice any pronunciation mistakes, but then again, I'm not British

But it's really good

[stone pendant]

Alright, thank you. If anyone would like to give me feedback on how to improve my pronunciation, please feel free to do so. I welcome any feedback.

[cunning mica]

The way you said 'says' should sound like 'sez,' not 'sais.' And when you say 'apple tree,' it should sound like 'a-pul tree,' not 'appe tree.' Also 'red' sounds more like 'raid.'

[stone pendant]

thank you

[cunning mica]

'Dry' sounds like 'droy' with a long 'o.' You're stretching the words too much, and it seems like you're forcing them out, which makes it sound a bit strange. The same goes for 'appe tree' instead of 'apple tree' (which should sound like 'a-pul'). When you say, 'I want a big, crunchy, red apple,' it sounds more like 'red tow' instead of 'red apple'

It sounds like you need one of these

A red tow truck

[ember hatch]

That is done in some accents. It's called L-vocalization, its where the dark l (or really any latrial aproximant, but mainly the dark l. I think it's only the dark l for English [?]) becomes pronouced as /w/ (or a vowel)

It's asscociated with the cockney accent, but some American accents do it too

here's a example for the word 'little'; they say it twice:
https://youtu.be/TV6RRjBwM2E?t=160

the second is much clearer

'li'ow round pieces' and 'you have a li'oww area'

[cunning mica]

'li'ow and litow sound different

[ember hatch]

the 't' being glottalsied is a different phnomenon. That l is said like w because this speaker uses L-vocalization
Here there is no 't' yet 'you'll' is said as 'you'ww' (same vid a few secs later)

https://youtu.be/TV6RRjBwM2E?t=183

[cunning mica]

yeah but shay said litow

he clearly said litow and not li'ow

but I am bad at accents

[ember hatch]

Hm, yea, I suppose the 't' would normally be flapped or glottalised in accents that use L-vocalization, but I'm not sure tbh

Maybe some people say it as a normal t, but I see your point yea

[cunning mica]

I can usually only differentiate between American accents (like North and South), and I can tell if someone’s from the UK based on their accent (in most cases). But as long as they’re understandable, I don't really pay much attention to accents. Galway has so many different accents, and with all the American tourists, I've ended up with a bit of an American sounding accent myself

[ember hatch]

Yea, it's so hard to tell apart accents for me. I can generally tell if someone is English or American, very inaccurately identify southern American, but I confuse Irish and Scottish accents, and I don't even know most of the smaller distinctions, cuz it's not like there's one 'English accent' and one 'Irish accent' :p I guess I can sort of tell 'yeah that's a posh accent' if I heard one as well. But beyond that accents are so confusing yet so intriguing

I'd loveto expand my knowledge on them

But seeing as you yourself, a native spaker, struggle with them, I guess I can forgive myself for my inability to tell them apart easily

[cunning mica]

An Irish accent is usually associated with the Dublin accent, but I personally prefer the Cork accent and the Galway accent (especially the way some people say "eight" with that slight "sh" sound at the end in Galway). Some Americans have told me I sound like I'm from Ireland, but I don’t think I have much of an accent at all. Some of my friends have said I sound like I've watched a lot of American movies and am trying to speak with an American accent, but that it doesn’t quite sound distinctly American

[ember hatch]

Oh, so that pronunciation of word-final t isnt done everywhere in ireland? TIL
I guess you might have a mix of American and Irish accents lol. No one is really accentless we just all think we are :p

[cunning mica]

I can't really tell if I pronounce it fully. I say 'but' normally, and 'cat' and 'hat' the same, not like 'ca' or 'ha,' but I feel like the 't' is softened a bit. And yeah, I might have an Irish accent that sounds a bit American

The way I say 'that' sounds more like 'tha' though

[unborn pollen]

Are you British?

[tight dome]

？

no

I wish

[rapid patio]

sounds like british accent

[tight dome]

？

Are you guys trolling

[rapid patio]

no no

i am being honest mate

not much interested in trolling someone

[stone pendant]

You just made his day u know

[stone pendant]

Is it true that British like to use “sort of”?

Jonathan Bailey, he uses all the time

[cunning mica]

I’m not sure what you’ve done, but it sounds so much better now. The vowels are still a bit stretched in places, and some words still feel slightly forced, but not as much as before. Wow, you're doing an amazing job here!

[tight dome]

really？

[cunning mica]

No, it does sound better

[stone pendant]

Keep improving my friend

[tight dome]

hahaha

[stone pendant]

You did great

Less force, more natural

[tight dome]

That was too funny

[cunning mica]

The recording from yesterday sounded like you were trolling the Brits, but here it feels like you're actually practicing the British accent and trying to learn it. The beginning of the audio sounds really good to me, and the rest is fine too. Just try to let it flow more naturally. Like when you speak Korean you probably relax your mouth and speak quickly. Try speaking faster and more relaxed, and it'll sound so much better

[cunning mica]

This sounds really good

I’d still wonder if you were actually British, but if you told me you were, I’d believe it

[stone pendant]

I’m Thai. That one I used American accent, my casual accent. British is just extra hehehe

[cunning mica]

Saying 'sord of' is easier to pronounce than 'sort of.' I notice that I pronounce a lot of words the American way, like 'literally' and 'water,' and I think I replace some Ts with Ds myself

[stone pendant]

Caz I like Harry Potter so I practiced from Harry

[cunning mica]

Wait, is this your normal accent?

[cunning mica]

This sounds so good

[cunning mica]

I can’t really tell if it's American, though. I know it’s supposed to sound really flat and have that American twang. But it does sound like an American living in another country, or maybe Canadian? There are so many accents in Canada that no one really knows how they're supposed to sound. And there are a lot of Asians there, so you could just say you're an Asian Canadian

[stone pendant]

I have no idea I just remember how it sounds then execute it

just shadow them

The wolf thought for a bit. If he wanted to eat
both the little girl and the old lady,

[cunning mica]

It sounds like the deep South, but not clear enough to really come across as Southern. Your normal accent sounded much more American because it was a lot easier to understand

[stone pendant]

I know i don’t practice country much

Just a glimpse of it

[cunning mica]

'bit' sounds more like 'bite' (or 'bait'), and you drawl the word 'girl' too much. Also, 'old lady' was a bit hard to understand

[stone pendant]

Thank you for the feedback

[cunning mica]

Try the Canadian accent. I can see how much progress you've made with the British accent, and it's amazing. I can't imagine how much effort you're putting into it, it definitely shows. The British accent you're doing sounds pretty natural. There are a few words you might still need to work on, but for someone from Asia with barely any accent, that's seriously impressive. If you tried the Canadian accent, I think you could totally pass as a native speaker. Your normal accent already sounds kind of Canadian, so you've got a great starting point. Maybe aim for a Toronto accent, as it’s pretty close to the Midwest, but Canadians sound more neutral, while Midwesterners have that little American twang

[stone pendant]

Wanna see my native accent?

[cunning mica]

That sounds Thai

[stone pendant]

Caz I am

[cunning mica]

Yea

[stone pendant]

Wheee u from?

[cunning mica]

Ireland

[stone pendant]

I gotta learn Irish accent

Give me some please

[cunning mica]

No

[stone pendant]

Yesss

[cunning mica]

Mine's a bit Americanized. I live in Galway, and we don't have strong accents here. I'm not even sure if I have an accent at all. But I definitely don't sound super Irish

[stone pendant]

Ah ic

It’s hard though

I’ve seen in many movies

Gotta use lots of tongues I guess

[cunning mica]

Some Americans have told me I sound Irish because of the way I say certain words

[stone pendant]

I mean R but different kind of R than American R

[cunning mica]

and my 'r' sound

I was about to say

[stone pendant]

Hehehe

If I forced too much R then sometimes it’s a bit Irish R

it’s not my mother tongue anyways. I always think there’s nothing too lose right

[cunning mica]

The Irish r is softer

[stone pendant]

Just kept trying give it ur best shot. It’s just a conversation

[cunning mica]

The American R is more pronounced and firm

[stone pendant]

Ok got it thx

[cunning mica]

I'm trying to play around with these rs now, and when I relax my mouth, I can barely do an American accent

the words start to come out in in an Irish way instead

[stone pendant]

Show me please I wanna hear

[cunning mica]

nah, I hate the sound of my voice 🤣

[stone pendant]

[cunning mica]

when I try to do the American pronunciation of the word 'Ireland,' it feels like it comes from the back of my mouth

[tight dome]

iseal，do u think the american accent is a disgrace to the brits

since they dont like the american accwnt

[cunning mica]

I'm not British, but in general, not many people here like Americans

[tight dome]

Yeah idk why

[stone pendant]

What? Really? My new knowledge

[cunning mica]

We get loads of American tourists in Galway. I've never had any issues with them, but most people think Americans are loud, and some even see them as stupid. (Again, I don't mean to offend anyone, I don't think that's true. The people who think Americans are stupid are usually not much smarter themselves)

[stone pendant]

Oh wow that’s bad

[cunning mica]

My friend works at Starbucks, and an American came in ordering a drink they don't even have here (it's like a liter of coffee or something but just not the size they have in America). When they told him they don't have that size in Europe, the guy was like, 'Good lord, what is wrong with this world?' and tipped 5 dollars. (Nobody really tips here in Ireland, I'd usually throw like 50c in the tip jar, like most people do)

[stone pendant]

Was that good or bad?

In Thailand we don’t tip

[tight dome]

Galway girl

[stone pendant]

sounds nice

[tight dome]

Yeah I knew the city through this song

[cunning mica]

It doesn't sound bad, but it doesn't sound Irish either

[tight dome]

I didn’t want to sound irish

I was just singing the song

[cedar haven]

Sounds British

If i saw you i'de prob assume youre British

I think with a bit of more work you'll nail it

[stone pendant]

thx. i'll keep shadowing

i recorded myself, listen, then adjust

I also saved some short clips on my phone to listen to, so I can train my brain and develop muscle memory for the British accent.

the lastest one was Jonathan Bailey's

[frozen hinge]

How to develop a British or American accent?

[stone pendant]

Practice makes perfect

[chrome gust]

Grow up in america or britain i guess xd

[stone pendant]

[frozen hinge]

Where i can learn ? . I know practice makes perfect. I need to learn first to practice

[stone pendant]

i just recorded myself then playback my records then adjust it

i didn't go somewhere or need to pay to anyone

it's just self development

you do, you work, you accomplish

i used mostly shadowing technique

no theories or anything complicated stuff

just simple stuff

it's just like listening by ear then execute it

The more you practice, the more your brain's muscle memory will retain the sounds and tones.

[cunning mica]

British accents are trickier, and I don't know anyone with a British accent who isn't actually British. American accents are easier, but a true American accent is probably just as tough. You've gotta nail that twang that sets it apart, and it's not something you hear much outside the U.S. It also sounds a bit different in real life than what you hear in movies

I was chatting with this guy, and turns out he's from Boston. I was curious about his accent because it sounded a bit different, something about it stood out

but there's just something about the way he talks that makes it clear he's American (even though he doesn't say 'car' like 'cah')

[stone pendant]

I don’t worry much about the accent. I’d rather focus on the pronunciation because that’s the key to understanding the conversation.

[tight dome]

Daily practice

[stone pendant]

Accent is just extra. My accent shifts most of the time because I analyze the listener first to determine their level of English, then adjust my accent accordingly.

[river lance]

Would a General american accent be hard to master?

[stone pendant]

Easier than British I guess

[honest berry]

How old are you and for how long have you been practicing

[cunning mica]

It's not that it's hard to master the General American accent, it's just that not many people in the U.S. actually speak with one. Maybe in the Midwest, or possibly Canada?

[river lance]

I see, currently i have like a kind of mixed american with dutch accent and i’d like to master one because my goal is to work at a customer care at a big company when i move to america, its for cybersecurity

and i’ve learned how to really talk and speak in that kind of tone where it makes me sound caring but i’d really want to master one to perfect my voice

could i send a voice message or recording of a sentence i’d say and you’d give me feedback and tell me what i sound like kinda? i’d appreciate it bro

[stone pendant]

please do send.

[stone pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_5zxsK2sol8

british

follow them

[cunning mica]

Yeah, sure, but I'm not American, so I can't really say if that's how Americans talk

[cunning mica]

Americans are very friendly and casual

[haughty flicker]

Hey, to me you sound german or something like that, speaking American style English. Maybe with a few words sounding british or similar. You are a tiny bit unclear with your annunciation, but only on a few words c:

Oh i see now you're dutch, ok that makes sense c:

[river lance]

any tips on how i can sound more american? general standard to be specific

[stone pendant]

i don't quite understand what u were saying tbh. i understand just part but not all of it.

[haughty flicker]

Id suggest you speak a little slower, and to emphasize the beginning and end of each word a little more, so youre more clear. Also, Americans typically end sentences with the last syllable tone lower than the rest of the sentence, unless it's a question. That may be a good thing to practice. You ended on an up tone when you said 'tell me' for example. Try pitching down when you say 'me'.

[river lance]

ahhh

i understand

thats great thanks i didnt even know that

[haughty flicker]

I also notice some of your vowels don't follow the sounds they make in American English, like you say 'accint' instead of 'accEnt' to me. So, look out for that.

[haughty flicker]

Yeah sure c:

[cunning mica]

this sounds way more American

[cunning mica]

this recording sounds German

it sounds like German or Dutch to me, and I agree with RedSunBlues. But you're doing a great job!

[river lance]

i need some good native material to shadow can someone provide me with some useful videos/podcasts or just anything that might help?

[stone pendant]

This is much much better. I understand everything. Very clear mostly

[river lance]

Yeah, thats really my issue is that sometimes i do sound american for some reason and sometimes i sound dutch

no clue

[river lance]

great

[haughty flicker]

It would probably take years of living in America to sound fully American. Accents are incredibly common here, it's ok to not sound like youre from the us as long as you are understandable

[river lance]

Ah i see, my friend had the same issue as me but he said he did accent masking and he has like a full on american accent now

any clue what accent masking means?

[haughty flicker]

Its probably just trying to talk in an American accent, it's not really necessary at all, and you'll still sound like you're not from the us unless you choose one specific American accent to focus on. Otherwise you'll sound like you have accents from all over the place and lots of people will be able to tell youre not American.

[river lance]

So to sound more understandable fo americans i should just slow down when im speaking, and have a normal pitch when ending in words

and also try to pronounce the first and ending letters of a word as correct as possible

[haughty flicker]

The pitch thing would make you sound more like youre from the us, but its not important for being easy to understand.

[old marsh]

guys where do you think Joe Rogan's accent from

[chrome gust]

America xd

[old marsh]

i know that but where is it from in america

[brazen ermine]

Apparently he was born in Newark NJ & moved around the country for a couple years when he was 7, which I can maybe hear a little bit of northeast in him when I listen to him talk

[river lance]

he sounds like hes from the bronx

na im trolling

[old marsh]

thanks

[haughty flicker]

To me, being someone also from New Jersey, he sounds more like he's from Boston but there's enough jersey accent to not make the boston accent very strong.

[brazen ermine]

Funny you say that because the town he ended up going to high school in is right outside Boston

I was going to say I could hear more MA in his voice than NJ but I wasn't super sure since I'm not from anywhere near the northeast anyway

[river lance]

Thank you so much for all the help lol, hope you have a blessed day

[cunning mica]

It sounds like a mix of accents. Just let it flow naturally, relax and speak the way you would in Dutch or any other language you know. The less forced it is, the better it will sound. There are plenty of different accents in the U.S., so you could simply say you're an American who's lived in the Netherlands your whole life. Your English is good and easy to understand, but you could make it even clearer and sound more like a native speaker by not overthinking it

Just keep it relax, it sounds great

I'd say as long as you are understandable, the accent doesn't really matter. I've met plenty of people where I didn't even notice they had an accent until the told me where they are from. Then suddenly, I'd start picking up on thos little things that give it away

In Ireland, most people would just assume you're American if your accent sounds even somewhat American and you come across as casual and friendly

[stone pendant]

agree. 99% of the people you meet won’t be native speakers. It’s essential to get used to different accents; otherwise, you may struggle to communicate effectively because your ear isn’t trained to understand them.

[cunning mica]

I get what you mean, though. There are a lot of ignorant people who assume any immigrant is a bad person, but America has always been a country of immigrants. I totally get why you'd want to sound like a local in America.

[cunning mica]

Yeah, more people speak Chinese as their first language than English. Pretty much everyone understands at least some English, whether basic or advanced, but not a lot of people speak it fluently since it's so different from their native language. And accents are tough to lose because some of the sounds in English just don't exist in other languages.

[river lance]

Yeah i understand, its just that im moving to the USA soon and i work in like sales / customer care so my voice matters and i don’t really want people to think that i am a scammer

just because of my accent

i don’t really know how dutch accents are with americans tho i think they do like it not sure

[cunning mica]

Your accent shows that you speak more than one language and that you're pretty smart. You don’t sound like a scammer or too foreign.

[cunning mica]

I once went to a local phone store, and the guy with a thick Slavic accent gave off the vibe of someone who wasn't trying to sell me anything or scam me. It's not about your accent, it’s your attitude.

[river lance]

Got it, thanks so much

[haughty flicker]

Don't worry, there are several accents that make people think someone is a scammer, unfortunately, but dutch is not one of them. If you sound dutch, but are still understandable to old people who can't hear very well, you'll probably end up having a lot of positive conversations c:

[maiden dust]

All accents are beautiful.

[cunning mica]

'Unfortunately' kinda sounded like 'fortunately' when you said it. For 'think,' it was barely there, just a few letters. And 'one' sounded more like 'won.' And also 'understandable' came out a bit like 'understandabout.'

[tight dome]

Aren’t won and one pronounced the same tho

[haughty flicker]

Yes, but like 'wun' not 'wahn'

[haughty flicker]

Too much w, but close

It's almost like your saying oowone, just focus a little less on the w

[haughty flicker]

Perfect

[cunning mica]

the way you said 'understandable' sounded American

your normal accent sounds fine. Why do you want to sound British?

[tight dome]

My normal accent sounds Asian

I wanna sound like I’m from Europe

At least I’m trying to

Get rid of the Asianess and embrace the Europe

[stone pendant]

i don't think your normal accent sounds like an asian. in contrast, your british sounds more like asian trying to be british.

your normal accent is smoother and much prefered for me

keep practicing and remember don't overload the british accent. it sounds not natural.

when i close my eyes, i imiaging your mouth like a U sounded shape. i don't know how to explain but when your sound at the last of each word, you mouth seems a bit like U sound.

it's hard to explain though

i mean like AU U those shape

oh i think i got some U shape. imagine Trump mouth when he speaks

u didn't sound like him but imagine his mouth shape

anyways, keep it up my friend. good luck.

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[tight dome]

U?

like pout?

[cunning mica]

dude, you sound like you're mocking Europeans

[chrome gust]

xd

It's very hard to sound like a british person

I wouldn't advise anyone try to do it unless you lived in britain for a few years

otherwise you just sound kinda silly

[chrome gust]

all i heard was breath

[ember hatch]

is everyone jus supposed to learn American? :p

[chrome gust]

I think they should just speak in their normal accent really

although american is probably easier than british

[ember hatch]

I mea yea, top priority is being understandable, but after that I think people should just aim to sound like whatever accent they like

At least, if they want to

and if they don't want to, then just focus on being understandable

[ember hatch]

That probably depends on your native language and which sounds it has

I mean, as someone who's been learning British, when I try to do an American accent I just sound stupid lmao

so which one is harder more depends on your background

Like what accents you speak, what languages, stuff like that

[chrome gust]

But if you are unable to sound convincing in that accent, then to me it just sounds unprofessional and a bit weird

[ember hatch]

Well yea, we'll never be 100% convincing as a non-natives, so all we can do is aproximate it as best we can. I agree that doing a very stereotypical bad imitation without actually trying to study the accent makes you sound silly and even rude, but for those who really do study it, they can't be faulted for thier pronunciation idiosyncrasies

I think what Shay is doing leans more towards the former though :p

[chrome gust]

don't you think it's a lot of effort trying to mimic a particular accent though, to the point that you might never achieve a realistic sounding british accent for example

i just think it's a wasted effort

[ember hatch]

People can often be really insecure about their accent, so if putting in that effort helps them alleviate that, that's worth it I'd say. But it's like, optional, tbh. Accent is 100% a choice thing, a matter of 'do i want to?' and if someone were like 'Yeah I'll just speak in my native accent' then they'd be as valid as those who choose otherwise

To me, if I can understand them, they're good

lol

[chrome gust]

but can they realistically achieve that is the question, i kinda don't think it's possible though i may be wrong

do you think you can do a good british one? xd

[ember hatch]

I mean, they can achive a more native like accent but it will never be perfect

It's unrealistic to want to sound 100% native

But to want to sound British or American in general isn't unfeasible

[ember hatch]

I think the accent I normally speak in is decently an English one, but it has some American pronunciations sprinkled in, and ofc, the hints of my native language that I'm not even aware of. But overall I sound 'British-ish'. I would say my accent is fine, yeah, but it could use a lot of work

[chrome gust]

I see. very interesting. Scella you have once again humbled me with your incredible intelligence and insight, i thank you

[ember hatch]

I really don't know if you're being sarcastic sorry I thought we were just having a discussion abt learning an accent

sorry if I came off rudely

truly didn't mean to

[chrome gust]

i wasn't being sarcastic, i do think you are smart, but i also thought it would be funny if i said that

[ember hatch]

lmao thank you 😭

Sorry for misreading as sarcasam, tone through text is hard

[chrome gust]

yeah i get it, it was my bad for being awkward

i want to hear your english accent now xd

[tight dome]

I already told you that I’m not trying to mock them

[stone pendant]

try speaking with normal accent with a long version and lets compare with yoru british one, same version.

let we tell which one is much better regarding your background

[stone pendant]

@tight dome try this

Can I have a glass of water please

[stone pendant]

Second one is smoother

Not sound asian though

No Korea accent

I have many Korean friends I knew their accent very well

[tight dome]

I still wanna sound like I’m from Europe

[stone pendant]

which part?

[tight dome]

I guess anywhere in Europe

[stone pendant]

European also have their own accents

[tight dome]

I have extreme inferiority complex

[stone pendant]

Russian?

Dude, Russian have their own accents too

I’ve studied with one of my professor he’s from Russia

Yes strong accent indeed

[tight dome]

Yeah, Russia works too

[stone pendant]

Try one

Same sentence

[stone pendant]

What did you say after the first fundamental? How bit jaw or something I don’t know

[sage glen]

How would y'all

[stone pendant]

Ah thx

I pronounce like the first one

[sage glen]

Sorry, my english isn't the best

[sage glen]

Same

without the d nor t

[stone pendant]

No need to sorry my friend. There is nothing to lose on speaking other languages

[sage glen]

That's about right

I keep second guessing since not all T's after N are dropped

[cloud nexus]

Does this sound like inevitable or inimitable?

[stone pendant]

Innumerable

[stone pendant]

i listened again. its inimitable

but but

sound between inimitable and innumerable

innumerable is what i heard first time though

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/inevitable?q=inevitable+

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/inimitable

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/innumerable

with context. you'll be fine

[cloud nexus]

Maybe I pronounced the “i” too long

So it sounds like an elongated “e”

[ember hatch]

I still hear that lol

[stone pendant]

hehehe

[chrome gust]

I heard inimitable , but your t sound is too soft and sounds like a d

if you put more emphasis on the t, it would sound more like inimitable

[chrome gust]

^

[cloud nexus]

The syllable containing t doesn’t have a stress

So I pronounce it with a soft d or something

Like how I would pronounce the t in water

[ember hatch]

it's not a d

it's an alveolar tap

American accents replace t and d with it intervocalically when they're unstressed

Think of how 'ladder' and 'latter' sound the same when said by some

Here, you say 'in im uh tuh bol'

as you can see, 't' is between two vowels

I believe it's not in the stressed syllable, also

so that meets the conditions to make it a tap

A lot of people confuse the tap for a d but they're different sounds

[cunning mica]

You pronounce the 'd' clearly in 'ladder,' while the double 't' in 'latter' becomes a softened 'd' sound. They sound different

[river lance]

when doing the shadow technique am i supposed to do it while wearing headphones or am i supposed to be hearing myself while shadowing?

[ember hatch]

That's not true in some American accents lol. As I said, t and d flapping is common

[cunning mica]

Yes, but it's a soft 'd' in 'latter' and a stressed 'd' in 'ladder'

But I am not an American so I could be wrong

[ember hatch]

They both become the same sound

Not for everyone

But for a lot of people

And the flap/tap sound is not exactly /d/ or /t/, it's a different sound

Just like how t can become a glottal stop for some Brits in some positions

In some varieties, /d/, the voiced counterpart of /t/, may also be frequently pronounced as a flap in such positions, making pairs of words like latter and ladder sound similar or identical. In similar positions, the combination /nt/ may be pronounced as a nasalized flap [ɾ̃], making winter sound similar or identical to winner.

Dome people might make a slight difference in the vowel sometimes, or maybe intonation, not sure, but the pronunciation itself can be identical

In inimitable, you'd use that flap sound, was what I was saying

[river lance]

If you would like to learn Arabic, just follow me..

[ember hatch]

follow you where

[stone pendant]

a bit sus ^^

[solemn ingot]

How do you pronounce the word that in British English @river lance

“That”

[river lance]

As far as I know.

[solemn ingot]

Right thank btw

It’s this word i always mess up with when i pickup the accent

[river lance]

There are 2 types of "Th" words

Voiced one

and the ones without voice

Google up, you'll get these tutorials.

[solemn ingot]

Got it

[cunning mica]

zat? exampou?

[tight dome]

I guess I don’t know how to say it correctly in the British accent

[cunning mica]

Sounds way better, sounds American

[cunning mica]

This sounds natural, but your British accent comes across as mockery. I don't mean to be rude, but it sounds a bit odd when you try to do a British accent

[cunning mica]

exampou again

[tight dome]

I think that’s how they say it

[cunning mica]

I am not sure, but I could be wrong

But it sounds a bit strange to me

[tight dome]

At least it sounds like that to me when I’m hearing them saying this word

[cunning mica]

Is there a particular British accent you are trying to achieve?

[tight dome]

Cockney

[stone pendant]

agreeddddddd

[stone pendant]

agreed

[stone pendant]

agreed

your end sound likes to shift all the time dude

end of each word when u do british

my korea friends L sounded like that

just similar but not exact 100% totally korean accent

perhaps it's your korean accent that intervene with the british version

try cambridge website

uk version is pretty good

don't use google, it's robotic

But if I heard a voice clip of you from anywhere, I'm sure I would recognize it as you. You have a very unique accent.

try to not overstress the end sound.

[broken charm]

please teach me British

[sage glen]

I happen to know just the guy @tight dome

[tight dome]

I’m not British though

[broken charm]

where do I start?

[tight dome]

Don’t learn it from me

[broken charm]

you sound British enough for me

[tight dome]

I suck at this British accent too

Nah

[broken charm]

way better than me

[tight dome]

There are a lot of British friends here you should learn it from them

[tight dome]

It’s way better than I do

[broken charm]

how do i make it British

[broken charm]

no, ive heard u and u r better

[tight dome]

You should learn it from @cunning mica

[broken charm]

ok, ill just wait for someone else who wants to help then, thanks anyways

[sage glen]

@cunning mica Is irish bro 🥔

[tight dome]

It’s better than a Korean teaching him British accent

At leas

T

And he’s very active in this server so I guess he is the perfect guy for him

[cunning mica]

Are you an Asian?

[broken charm]

yes, sir

how do you know

[cunning mica]

Your accent gives it away a little, but it's not too strong. I was just wondering if I could guess it right 😅

[broken charm]

that's interesting, if I am talking with my fellow Indonesians they usually think i am not an Indonesian

[tight dome]

I am Asian too. You can easily tell by my voice messages.

[broken charm]

i can't tell tbh

maybe because i am not a native lol

[cunning mica]

Your accent doesn't sound Indonesian though. It just sounds like you are from somewhere in Asia

[tight dome]

Just be a dear and teach him British accent iseal

We would really appreciate you

[cunning mica]

I am not British, and I don't know how to speak with a British accent

[tight dome]

Well, teach us Irish accent then

It’s pretty close to the the British accent

[broken charm]

yes i'd like that too

[tight dome]

I really love Colin Farrell. He’s from Ireland.

I would love to talk like him

[cunning mica]

I don't have a strong Irish accent that sounds overly Irish. Mine's kind of Americanized.

I am from the West Coast, and the city I live in is known for having a lot of American tourists and a mix of different accents.

[tight dome]

Yeah, I don’t know why the Irish accent is gradually becoming Americanized

[broken charm]

americans are everywhere

[cunning mica]

Because everyone watches Hollywood movies and TV shows

[tight dome]

Cause Ireland is really close to the UK

[cunning mica]

and then we end up sounding American

[tight dome]

You guys should be watching the British shows that would make more sense

I guess filthy Americans

[cunning mica]

It's not about what makes more sense. It's just that people consume American content.

There's simply a lot more American content than British.

[tight dome]

Maybe

Can you name me an Irish person that sounds very Americanized?

I would like to see

Name me like a famous Irish celebrity

[cunning mica]

It's uncommon everywhere in Ireland except maybe Galway. I am not saying everyone sounds American, but a lot of people do sound Americanized - not distinctly Irish. And honestly, I can't name a celebrity with an Americanized accent, unless we are talking about Irish people who were born in or lived in America for a long time and naturally have an American accent.

[tight dome]

Oh ok

[haughty flicker]

Colin Farrel is one, he has a great American accent. And, not Irish but scottish, ewan McGregor has a very solid American accent as well. And for English, hugh laurie, watch the show House if you want to see an absolute master of the american accent.

And another hugh with a good American accent, hugh jackman, but he's Australian.

[tight dome]

No i didn’t mean irish celebrities that can do great American accent i meant any Irish celebrities that have very Americanized accents as their natural accent

[cunning mica]

No it's very uncommon

[tight dome]

But you are definitely an exception

[cunning mica]

But I am not a celebrity

[tight dome]

It could be anyone doesn’t have to be a celebrity

[cunning mica]

yeah but I am from Galway

[chrome gust]

Your american accent is way better than british

Pls stick to american

[river lance]

Noboby here can say this

[chrome gust]

I can.

[ember hatch]

What language is that?

[river lance]

Bulgarian

[chrome gust]

🤔

Interesting

[ember hatch]

I see

Is that written in Cyrillic or the Latin alphabet?

[river lance]

Cyrilic

[ember hatch]

Oh alright

sounds nice

[river lance]

Here I say the alphabet

[jaunty frigate]

when i do to training conversation in english, what i do? A1/A2 level

[chrome gust]

You just speak english

[tight dome]

It’s not American accent it’s Korean accent, cause I’m from Korea

[chrome gust]

No it's american, that aint korean

[tight dome]

NAH that is Korean

[chrome gust]

wtfffff

[tight dome]

Americans don’t talk like that. Just ask a native here.

[chrome gust]

Not sure, that sounds american to me, Not sure

[tight dome]

It’s definitely foreign accent

[stone pendant]

dude. You seem confused about your accents. You said your American accent is Korean, and your Korean accent is British.

I'm being honest here. Based on what I've heard, your American accent is not Korean. Your British accent is not authentic. I can only detect a British-sounding ending in your Korean accent. From my experience with my Korean friends, I don't believe any of your accents are truly Korean.

[chrome gust]

😆

Im loving the accent detective

[stone pendant]

do you agree?

[chrome gust]

Yes, I mean it sounds american to me, idk how that can be korean BUT -- maybe he studied in an international school or just picked up an american accent through studying

[stone pendant]

That's an advantage, you know, but recognizing the wrong accent could be a problem. I hope he listens to the feedback and corrects his beliefs. That's all we can do—just pray for him.

[tight dome]

My British accent is definitely not authentic cause i am trying to learn it

But my normal accent is Korean accent trust me

[stone pendant]

https://www.thefablecottage.com/fables/chicken-little

you can use this uk version and mimic him sentence by sentence

i think that's good start for shadowing.

[tight dome]

How is that

[stone pendant]

no dude. you listen to him first, then pause, then speak after that. then repeat. check mine

It's like your brain remembers what comes first, making it easier to mimic afterward. Unlike when you listen to everything first and then try to recall it in long paragraphs, your brain won't mimic it as closely to the original.

this is how i practice my british accent.

slow but effective

[tight dome]

I don’t have a second device rn so I can’t do shadow reading and record it at the same time

[stone pendant]

screen recording?

oh, forgot u sent here

a bit hard for you though.

if u got another device then perhaps try it

[tight dome]

Sure

[stone pendant]

it's more effective i guess. at least for me.

i've been using this technique for so long

I also created a group on my LINE app with just myself in it. I send voice recordings, then listen to them and make adjustments. Sometimes, I send short articles, read them aloud, then listen and adjust my accent. This helps because when you speak, it’s the same as others hear you, so it’s important to listen to your own voice too.

[tight dome]

Can I be in it

[stone pendant]

Nope, it’s a personal group with just me in it. We can talk here though. More ears to help you with the correction.

[cunning mica]

I don't trust you because it feels like you're not really listening to what people are saying. Like honestly, your normal accent sounds so much better, and it kind of seems like you're either joking around or asking for feedback but not really taking it seriously.

When I say it sounds fine, I mean it. I'm not here to flatter you or tell you your accent is perfect when it's clear it's not your first language. I'm also not going to be overly polite just to avoid being honest. Constructive feedback is what helps improve.

[tight dome]

I don’t wanna sound asian thats all,has nothing to do with which accent is better

I wanna sound like a European That’s why I wanna learn the British accent.

I don’t like my normal accent cause it sounds asian

[stone pendant]

Do you realized you kidda offended Asians?

[tight dome]

Thats not offensive

I wanna achieve wat I want to achieve thats totally fine

[stone pendant]

Then you could say you don’t wanna sound like you as Koreans

That’s more like personal not all of us

[tight dome]

Same thing

[stone pendant]

Not same

[tight dome]

It’s personal either way

[stone pendant]

You and others no no

don’t compare yourself to others dude

You are not like others

You have your uniqueness

[tight dome]

I already said it i have extreme inferiority complex

It doesn’t mean asians are inferior objectively

It’s always me

[versed raptor]

Hey @tight dome
You don’t sound ANYTHING CLOSE to a British accent.
It sounds like you’re trolling [badly], tbh.
You just get away with it for entertainment purposes.
And before you tell me you’ve been watching British films/ TV — it has not made one iota of a difference.
You don’t sound ANYTHING LIKE a Brit of ANY kind of ANY accent.

[tight dome]

Thats why i wanna learn it

I have been taking advice from ppl in this server

It’s getting better

[versed raptor]

Long, long, long way to go.

[tight dome]

I am gonna get there as long as i keep practicing

And didn’t i diss you before

Misspenny

[versed raptor]

According to you.
To Natives who actually speak like that, it’s a No. Not even close yet.
Most of the time you sound like you are mocking.
If I did that with an Indian or Chinese accent, I’d probably be banned by now.
But you seem to get away with it . . .

[tight dome]

I am not mocking i already told you i am learning the pattern of their accent

I don’t wanna be accused of something I didn’t do

[versed raptor]

Like I said, from a Native Brit, it sounds like you’re are mocking.
NO ONE in the UK speaks like that. No one.
But just carry on . . . ,

[tight dome]

I am imitating the pattern of how they speak but it might come out to be a little weird cause i am not a native!

But I am trying sincerely

[versed raptor]

Well, just so you know, it hasn’t even started working yet.

Like I said — if I tried the same shenanigans with an Asian accent, I’d be banned from here by now.

[tight dome]

First of all i don’t care about you doing any Asian accents here cause I don’t give a damn if you have a problem then u should talk about it to mods,second of all it’s gonna work as soon as i work hard and persist

[versed raptor]

Yeah. Ok Tom Hardy. You just keep on truckin’.

[tight dome]

Have a wonderful day misspenny

[versed raptor]

l will.
I’m going to chat all day in my beautiful British accent. 🇬🇧

[tight dome]

Yeah exactly,good for you, you already have something I always wanted to have

Unfair but is what it is

[old marsh]

at least you speak two languages :3

[versed raptor]

I speak four.

[tight dome]

I wish i had never been korean

It doesn’t matter to me how many languages I speak

I really wanna be British, but it’s not gonna happen

[grave lantern]

@versed raptor cry us a river bro

We dont care what you think about the accent

Native and mocking brit is stupid af

ELLO MATE

BO OA OF WO AH

if you are so offended then go make a lawsuit

Press charges

İ am waiting

Gonna get my lawyer

[versed raptor]

Instead of writing on here, why don’t you engage with speakers in the VCs?
You’re much more likely to pick up natural speech, intonation etc??

[tight dome]

I have never seen a British in voice chat ever

Except for you probably but you just wanted to mock me so what’s the point?

[versed raptor]

There are a few of us.
I mocked you??
LoL
Professional victim.
Just carry on with whatever you’ve been doing.

[versed raptor]

Boo hooo.
😂😂😂😂😂😂

[tight dome]

I became a victim how Mrs. Penny

Doing what I want to do doesn’t make me a victim

But to each their own, I guess

[versed raptor]

Stop your whinging and just carry on with whatever you’ve been doing, if it keeps you happy.

[tight dome]

Thanks for your respect, Mrs. Penny

I’ll keep doing whatever I have to do

[cunning mica]

Why the rudeness though? He doesn't sound like a Brit, but more like a troll, absolutely. Why not just politely tell him that's not how you guys sound? Your response kinda sounds pissed off instead of just giving feedback on his accent.

[versed raptor]

We’ve spoken before.
This has been going on for a while.
He has been asking for feedback from others for weeks, and appears not to take any advice.

[cunning mica]

I know

I told him

[tight dome]

Why people keep saying that I don’t take any advice?

Iseal once said that the way I said Apple tree sounded like Apple tow and I corrected it

[cunning mica]

Because your normal accent sounds natural and your British accent comes across as mockery.

[versed raptor]

So that’s my response.
He is a troll.
Doesn’t sound anything like a Brit of any kind, of any accent.
Sounds like he’s mocking.

[tight dome]

I already said it I don’t like my normal accent sounds very Asian and I don’t like it

[cunning mica]

Apple BGM-71 TOW

[tight dome]

Lololo

[cunning mica]

Fine, just ignore him

[cunning mica]

You mentioned TOW and now I wanna play on it

I either play helicopters or Anti-tank in milsims

[tight dome]

And secondly if my British accent won’t work at all even if I try very hard I can learn the Australian or the American way

But I have to at least try

[tight dome]

Is it a fun game?

[cunning mica]

Australians sound like a mix of both British and American accents

[tight dome]

So? Still worth a shot

[stone pendant]

Dude try your normal accent I think you sound more American

[tight dome]

I asked a lot of Americans about my normal accent and they all said that I don’t sound American at all

It is true

I tried to do the American accent once here and a Canadian said it sounds fine, but it’s not American at all

[stone pendant]

could you send a longer version I wanna hear it

Then I’ll tell

[tight dome]

No, I don’t wanna do the American accent anymore because I wanna focus on the British accent

[stone pendant]

Alright

[cunning mica]

Yeah, but it's mostly calculations when you're playing as Anti-Tank, as you need to figure out the distance to the target and then shoot. If you miss, there's a pretty good chance you'll survive for about 10 more seconds, since the smoke from the shot is visible from afar, and that IFV or tank can quickly shoot at you, and you're dead. You also need to aim for the ammo compartment or engine. When the engine is hit, it can't move, so you can shoot again. The ammo compartment will blow the vehicle up in seconds. Mortar is just about calculating the bearing and distance to the target. TOW is easy because it's wire-controlled, and you control the rocket. So yeah, it's pretty fun.

Most TOWs are wire-controlled.

[tight dome]

Sounds very complicated

[cunning mica]

SQUAD isn't very hard to play, ARMA is. Because ARMA is literally more about calculations and hiking than shooting. So basically, if you're playing as a sniper, you need to calculate the distance to the target accurately, then set the scope to that distance, and shoot, hoping you don't miss

[tight dome]

Are you a military stan?

[cunning mica]

I just play military simulators a lot

[tight dome]

Are you a marine or something?

[cunning mica]

No

[tight dome]

Swat?

[cunning mica]

No

[tight dome]

Ok

[chrome gust]

@tight dome can you send maybe a 30 second voice clip of ur normal korean accent ?

[river lance]

How's my pronunciation?

[cunning mica]

Is Spanish your first language?

I cannot understand some of the words you are saying though. Maybe it's because you are speaking too quietly.

You sound like you have a Spanish accent.

[river lance]

how did you know that wow jaja

Here is another recording

what can i improve ?

I'm feel stock in pronunciation quiet months ago

[cunning mica]

You say 'interesting' with a hard 'g' at the end. 'Interest' is pronounced 'intruhst,' not 'interest.' The way you say 'this is' sounds a bit Spanish to me. 'Have' sounds a bit like 'huv' to me. I can't really explain what's off, but I can definitely tell you're from a country where Spanish is the first language

[river lance]

Yeah I'm Uruguayan

[cunning mica]

Are you trying to achieve a particular accent?

[river lance]

Yes, american accent

i forgot the a word sounds like ea

or eae

I will make the same sentence and if you want to correct me it would be great

[cunning mica]

You need to work on your vowels and 'r' sound to sound more American. Try finding an American on YouTube and mimicking their accent. Maybe record yourself and compare. I don't know any specific techniques, but this is what @stone pendant said he did to get his British accent, and it sounds really convincing. I would've believed him if he said he was an Asian who lived in the UK.

[river lance]

oh

alright

I will do that

[river lance]

Astonishing ! haha , thanks for all.

[cunning mica]

Try this sentence

I’m going to the store to grab some coffee and snacks for the weekend

[river lance]

alright

[cunning mica]

ChatGPT generated

[river lance]

How can i record my voice here without going to vocaroo

I'm on my computer, in my phone appears the botton but in pc it doesn't

[cunning mica]

I am not sure if it's possible here though. I am using a laptop and I can't

[river lance]

It might be that ,then.

[cunning mica]

1. 'I'm' should sound more like 'ahym,' 'the' should be pronounced 'thuh', 'grab' should sound like 'grab' (not 'grub'), and 'coffee' should sound like 'kaw-fee' (not 'cowfee').

2. 'After' should be pronounced 'af-tr,' and 'relax' should sound like 'ruh-laks.'

Everything else seems fine, but I'm not sure what you need to work on. Some of the words don't sound quite American, but they still sound okay, and I can't quite figure out what you'd need to do to make them sound more American.

'relax' can be either 'ree-laks' or 'ruh-laks,' I think it depends on the accent.

@haughty flicker I think we need to ask you about what @river lance needs to improve to sound more American. I'm not American myself, and I can't quite figure out what's off here.

[river lance]

I remember the english vowels and that's really right

there are so many words to pronounce well

Thanks for your corrections

So, I still confuse unconciously and even using the spanish vowels trying to speak english

i will work on it

[cunning mica]

Your accent sounds great and clear. It's not hard to understand at all. I'm sure if you work on it a bit, it'll sound even better! You are doing a great job!

[river lance]

Thanks for the compliment 🙂

[stone pendant]

you did great here. just like @cunning mica said, polishing a bit then you will get there for sure.

The point is, if you can make other people understand you, you're fine.

[cunning mica]

Before a presentation or something, I usually drink a cup of warm water and relax a bit to smooth out my voice. I think it helps with the accent too!

[river lance]

I'll have something the next time then, ha ha

[buoyant venture]

Guys, what ways can I improve my accent?

I want to go British accent but I am willing to try American as well, which ever is easier

[storm rover]

Hello, i need help improving my english. Can someone give me advice??? I'll send a voice audio

[brave plume]

Hey!

Can I say something?

I want to improve my speaking.

[wooden bough]

Hello everyone

Can anyone tell me how long it takes to learn English up to B2 level?

[sage glen]

Shadowing, vcing and listening to natives

[sage glen]

Yeah, go for it

[sage glen]

Yes you can

[sage glen]

There's no real answer to that, it depends on how you progress

It's completely on you and you alone

[haughty flicker]

Hey, sorry this took a while, yeah the 'the' has a bit too much E, should be thuh. Grab sounds fine, the way you said coffee is too much like 2 different words, try saying it more smoothly, like cawf-ee. Same for weekend, there's too much space between week and end. Try saying wee-kend. Relax is fine, but the 'a' before it could be less stressed, like 'uh' instead of 'ay'. Hope that helps, if you have any questions feel free to ping i just might take a little while to reply again.

[buoyant venture]

Thanks

💙

[stone pendant]

Strong accent my friend. I don’t quite understand the whole thing. Could you please provide the text.

[old marsh]

he doesnt speak english ig

[old marsh]

what is this language?

[stone pendant]

It’s English I guess caz I can catch the word egg

English but with accent

Very strong

First require bag of egg ….

He read from something

Bible?

[old marsh]

The word 'egg' also exists in Norwegian and other languages too

[river lance]

Verily the task is most simple
Thou should first require a single bag of eggs
Two full buckets of water mixture from powder from asshill
Thereupon thou should combine the eggs with the dirt

I said this

[old marsh]

English just steals words from other languages lol

[old marsh]

are you kidding me

[river lance]

Now I do this

[old marsh]

the hell is this

[river lance]

English But I steal words from other languages

In this message I really do it

[old marsh]

bro 😭😭

could you please use your normal accent

[old marsh]

i dont think so this is your normal

[river lance]

I think that's why it was hard to explain what I want in mcdonalds in england I said

I wanna order Big Mac fries and cola
How many will it cost

They didn't understand it

What a bloody old ragtards

[old marsh]

so you're telling me this is how you speak in real life

[old marsh]

i still can tell you're making this accent

[ember hatch]

Just a note, since people have already commented on the way you say 'the'. You can say it that way, but only before vowels. So 'thij apple' and 'thij underground layer' but 'thuh big apple' and 'thuh layer that's underground'

[sage glen]

@river lance Are you italian?

[signal lintel]

Holz

Hola

[haughty flicker]

Yes true, I forgot to mention this as well.

[old marsh]

you could try both but i found American is easier at least for me

[buoyant venture]

American is a bit hard for me, with the r sounds

I also studied English from a British source

[old marsh]

Do you mean you have a pronunciation issue with the R sound, or do you know how to pronounce it but didn't use it?

[stone pendant]

Hello and welcome to The English We Speak, where we explain phrases used by fluent English speakers so that you can use them too. I'm Feifei, and I'm here with Phil. Now, I should be telling you that you shouldn't eat in the studio - but that looks delicious! Where did you get the recipe for that, Phil?

how am i doing?

[river lance]

No

But I know one Italian song
Pineapple pineapple pizza pineapple pizza pizza pizza

Una matina una pizza pineapple

[main frigate]

i really wanna improve my accent but i dunno how to start it, can u teach me guys

i mean my pronunciation

[stone pendant]

pls send some sample. you can use the same one as mine.

[stone pendant]

this one

[main frigate]

i use my mac so i dunno how to make a voice note

like u do

[ember hatch]

You can use this site called vocaroo

record a message there

send the link here

https://vocaroo.com/

^the site

[ember hatch]

You said 'the studio' in a way that sounded like 'this studio', but I'm guessing you used the prevocalic pronuncation of 'the'

'thij' before vowels, 'thuh' before consonants

so not 'thij studio' but 'thuh studio'

[main frigate]

thank uu somuch i'll try

[ember hatch]

you said 'where we explain' a bit like 'well they explain'

[main frigate]

i use this text
"College life is exciting but challenging. Every morning, I rush to class with my notebook and coffee in hand. My favorite part of the day is spending time with friends in the library, working on projects or just talking about life"

[ember hatch]

You didn't pronounce the final 's' in 'looks'

[main frigate]

https://voca.ro/1cKqx26xuS0L

i really shy for my pronunciation

pls correct me

[ember hatch]

'the recipe' sounded a bit like 'that recipe'? A bit. I think you pronounced a glottal stop at the end of the 'the'

[stone pendant]

oh that one i read it "that" ^^. misread it hehehe

[stone pendant]

i think i did pronounce that

looks delicious? i did.

[stone pendant]

well noted. thank you

[stone pendant]

spot it. thank you

@ember hatch Thank you so much. I really appreciate your help.

https://tenor.com/view/ren-stimpy-ren-and-stimpy-happy-joy-gif-13435320985239230871

[ember hatch]

'college': your final sound was the zh sound, like in 'pleasure' (IPA transcription: /ʒ/). It should be almost like that, but you need to fully press your tongue against the roof of your mouth before releasing the sound. If you can make the 'j' in 'just', it's exactly like that (you seem to be able to, since you said it properly in 'projects'). Listen to the word here.

'rush to class': I couldn't understand this part. Your 'sh' in 'rush' sounded too close to 's'. But now that I know what you said, I can easily hear it.

'coffee': the vowel was a bit off. If you're going for Americcan it needs to be much less rounded, meaning your lips aren't making an 'o' shape (they're just open), and it needs to be lower in the mouth. In British English it needs to be shorter and lower in the mouth (but still rounded). Listen to the vowel here.

'favourite': you said it with a 'v' instead of an 'f': vavourite.

'of': even though it's written with 'f', 'of' is pronounced as 'ov'.

'library': the second R was a flapped R. That is, you didn't say it like an English R, but like the R in other languages (like Spanish, in some cases, and Arabic).

Overall, this sounds great. You are pretty much fully understandable, and your accent isn't strong at all. You're doing very well.

[ember hatch]

It doesn't sound like it. I've relistened a few times, and if you did pronounce it, it was very very slight. I can't hear it

[ember hatch]

No problem! 💜 Good luck. You're doing great

[blazing skiff]

Guys, can you suggest someone I can imitate? I'm interested in the American accent.

[willow juniper]

Hi Narra, great job! Your English is very understandable, and it will continue to get better as you build confidence :). I agree with all of Scella's comments/suggestions. A few more suggestions:

'Ok' (your opening word): The "o" was a bit elongated, and the "k" sound was a bit short, making the final word sound like "oo-key". Instead, try to make a shorter, deeper "o" sound, and a longer, calmer "k" sound. "Oh-kay". The word ok can be said in many tones, but when I heard yours I could tell you were nervous! By slowing down and dropping your pitch, this word will sound more natural coming out.

'notebook': Similar to 'ok' above, the 'o' sound at the beginning of this word was elongated, making the final word sound like "noot-book". Try to slow down on those short 'o's at the beginning of words, creating that round deeper 'oh' sound.

'favorite': I think slowing down on this word will help make it clear! I could hear the 'f' sound, but the 'vorite" came very quickly. Although native speakers do say "favorite" quickly, to the point where it sounds like two syllables, it is really three syllables. Practice saying it in its three distinct syllables, fa-vor-ite (fay-vor-it), and it will become smoother!

[stone pendant]

Please send some of your voice samples. If I know your background, I might be able to provide better suggestions.

[twin tundra]

hey bro i just saw your opinion and i
wana tell you someting , Adopting an American accent takes consistent practice, active listening, and patience. Focusing on pronunciation and intonation can make a big difference over time. Keep at it—you’re on the right track!"

[twin tundra]

sure, "The first step to training your tongue for fluent speech is to practice memorizing rap songs. Start at a comfortable pace, then gradually increase the speed as you become more accustomed to the rhythm and articulation. good luck if you'll start

[stone pendant]

British accent I like to use modern RP. Easier for people to understand you

[blazing skiff]

i don't like rap lol

ig i pronounced grace wrong

[ember hatch]

Yeah you don't need to imitate rap, or even songs

Just imitate someone

[blazing skiff]

yeah that's what i asked for
#🗒｜pronunciation message

[ember hatch]

I think iss best to watch whatever content you enjoy (so long as the accent of the creator is that which you're after) and shadow after that

You don't need a specific person whose content is specially made for shadowing practice

Just find someone (or multiple people) whose speaking pace and accent you like and whose content you like and imitate them

[blazing skiff]

Thanks

[twin tundra]

May I ask where you are from?"

i can guess that you're from arabic country or a thing like that

well, i can tell you that you can learn it by other ways like Listen to native speakers through podcasts, audiobooks, or TV shows. Pay attention to their pronunciation, intonation, and rhythm and Practice speaking with native speakers, even if it's online, to build confidence and refine your accent. (english hub is a great chance)

see you bro !

[blazing skiff]

Thanks Bro!

[river lance]

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Ahhh I suck

Even myself can see all these pronunciation errors, i don't know how to get rid of my spanish accent

[stone pendant]

I think you should open your mouth wider and speak louder. That will help with pronunciation.

[river lance]

I'll keep it in mind

Thanks

[twin tundra]

so beautiful speech bro , do not worry about the accent now step by step 'til success and i realy be happy whenn i see people know the things who not all do , good luck to you too!

[violet hornet]

Hi

[twin tundra]

hey bro how is it going!

[broken charm]

Can someone give feedback on my pronunciation please, what can I improve

[stone pendant]

From the beginning up to 0.23, you did perfectly. However, after you said "schedule," I noticed some accents. Overall, your pronunciation and accent were great, but a few words, like "schedule," didn't sound perfect. I believe you can manage that with no worries.

How did you record that? It sounds so good! I couldn’t hear any background noise.

[broken charm]

I recorded it in a quiet room. Btw, I can't tell what's wrong with my "schedule" pronunciation, to me it's perfect, can you pronounce for me please?

i think my "allow" pronunciation is a bit off there

[stone pendant]

not clear: schedule, allocate, avoid, allow you said allo, productivity, breath in - that word in wasn't clear, stress - you said strass, your life - tongue a bit stiff not smooth perhaps it's R and L afterward that difficult to pronounce.

not know: activity don't ...... something i don't know. was it line? or lime?

overall, i think u did very very good. very close to native

[broken charm]

i believe the wrong part of mine is where i use schwa instead of u?

[stone pendant]

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/schedule

[broken charm]

thank you! i'll look into it more and work on it.

[stone pendant]

u r welcome

[sage glen]

I think you said it with 2 syllables

[broken charm]

but it is right? the word is 2 slyllables, sche-dule

[sage glen]

Gimme a sec

[broken charm]

are you from the uk

[stone pendant]

Thailand actually ^^

[broken charm]

wow

[stone pendant]

i have mixed accent

us and uk together hehehe

and sometimes au

i gotta focus and choose one to be almost perfect

it's not gonna be like natives

[broken charm]

the british accent sounds more dominant to me

idk

[stone pendant]

Hehehe, I guess so too because I practiced a lot from Harry Potter.

my casual one is acutally easy american

[sage glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Utdnh4hg8

@broken charm There you go

[stone pendant]

Using a British accent all the time has made my tongue a bit stiff.

[sage glen]

@broken charm Btw I noticed it now I've listened to your pronunciation again

You missed the D

You basically only said the ʒ sound

Not d͡ʒ

[broken charm]

can you record yourself pronouncing it please?

[sage glen]

I did

[broken charm]

i pronounced the j sound

[sage glen]

^

[sage glen]

Nope

[broken charm]

"SKE-jəl" <- the way i pronounced it

[sage glen]

You didn't make the full sound

It's DJ

Lemme explain

Ima make a recording

[broken charm]

yes pls

[sage glen]

@broken charm

[broken charm]

what about this?

[twin tundra]

hey there! how is it going

[sage glen]

I like your last 2 attempts, much better

[sage glen]

Sup

[arctic inlet]

To me it sounds more American tho?

[broken charm]

so the problem was the DJ? i didn't make it distinct enough?

[broken charm]

i am not a native, so i wasn't sure when i said

[sage glen]

Precisely

[twin tundra]

yeah i saw it' s better keep practicing bro

[broken charm]

ok thanks bro

[sage glen]

Anytime!

[twin tundra]

my pleasure !

[stone pendant]

i think he meant not that latest one. the latest one i use us accent

[arctic inlet]

No worries, I’m not a native either

[stone pendant]

but reviously long long ago i used british one

[arctic inlet]

Ahh that figures

[stone pendant]

^^

[arctic inlet]

Yeah I can tell, ur British accent is rlly good!!

[stone pendant]

Thank you. I'll keep practicing. I don't have a Thai accent. Want to hear one?

[arctic inlet]

I should start practicing again as well, I stopped for quite a while since I went back to Hong Kong during the holidays and went full on Cantonese mode with my friends and family lol

[arctic inlet]

Yeah I’m interested

[arctic inlet]

HAHAHAHAHA

[arctic inlet]

Lemme do a pure Hong Kong accent as well lol

[arctic inlet]

Icic, that’s cool

[stone pendant]

show me your HK

[stone pendant]

when i speak with my thai friends. i use Thai accent

[arctic inlet]

Can you hear anything?

Cuz I just realised I could barely hear anything 😭

[stone pendant]

i can't use Thai accent with foreigners. they might not understand some word.

can't hear anything

[blazing skiff]

How long does it take you to get a British accent?

[arctic inlet]

Understandable

[arctic inlet]

Ah imma make another one then, probably no sound cuz I’m wearing headphones

[stone pendant]

I can't actually remember when I started—probably when I got into the Harry Potter accent a long time ago. Even now, I still watch foreigners, especially British ones visiting Thailand on YouTube. I like speaking along with them.

[stone pendant]

okokok hehehe purely HK

[arctic inlet]

LOLLL

[blazing skiff]

got it

[stone pendant]

I like to use AI to fix grammar. All you need to do is just ask AI to remember that every time I type the word "fix," just fix the grammar in the sentence I give. Once it remembers, you just copy and paste that, then add a full stop, and then just type the word "fix." Then voila, your grammar is fixed automatically.

[blazing skiff]

Hey everyone, how many minutes is the clip you practice each day?

[noble idol]

Hi everyone hope you all are doing fine, I'm applying for a job, and they told me to send an Audio of this text, I would like to receive some feedback on my response If possible

This is the text that im reading: Humans are uniquely smart among all the other species on the planet. We are capable of outstanding feats of technology and engineering. Then why are we so prone to making mistakes? And why do we tend to make the same ones time and time again? When Primate Psychologist Laurie Santos from the Comparative Cognition Lab at Yale University posed this question to her team, they were thinking in particular of the errors of judgment which led to the recent collapse of the financial markets. Santos came to two possible answers to this question. Either humans have designed environments which are too complex for us to fully understand, or we are biologically prone to making bad decisions.

[glacial rune]

From what i heard all your pronunciation was correct except at the start i did hear you say uniquely wrong you should say it like this: Uneekly instead maybe that might improve it but apart from that its perfect

[sage glen]

I head uniquely and cognition so far

[glacial rune]

I think its just the accent i think but i could understand it

[sage glen]

Probably, cuz he did it again with decisions

But overall great job

[glacial rune]

Yea from the accent he sound like a Spanish speaker which obviously influences that type of pronunciation but yea he should definitely get this job

@noble idol you got this 👍

[noble idol]

@glacial rune @sage glen Thank you so much, appreciated the feedback I need it. Great help 🙂

[glacial rune]

Your very welcome

[twin tundra]

hey bro , when will you send the voice messge to them ?

[sage glen]

It's up there buddy

Scroll up

[twin tundra]

i wanted to telim that Irecommend that you wait a bit and continue practicing your listening and speaking skills. Best of luck with your work!

'cause i can guess that he needs a little time !

[ember hatch]

in 'complex' you didn't pronounce the /k/ that should be before the /s/

[twin tundra]

yeah so he still has'ta learn more little things to be ready!

[ember hatch]

yea ?

That recording was really good lol

just some small issues here and there

obviously not native but far from incomprehensible or thick in accent

I think they're ready :p

really only 'uniquely' and 'Cognition' were outright bad

I'd much rather not lol

[red cliff]

It was my turn

[red cliff]

i have a feeling i've heard of this experiment, let me look it up real quick

that's not unexpected when surrounded by ESL learners tbf

pretty much everything in the sample is a paraphrase of various things stated in the first 4 minutes of this video
https://www.ted.com/talks/laurie_santos_a_monkey_economy_as_irrational_as_ours/transcript

the 14th amendment, most recently

i haven't actually done a lot of reading recently, but i used to get through a few audiobooks from time to time, both fiction and nonfiction

[tight dome]

Are you from china?

[karmic nymph]

I am searching for a native Speaker so I can read a small paragraph aloud. I need this for uni. They are checking my pronunciation, intonation, flow, speed, and overall impression of your
ability to read aloud and I want to do a test run before i have my oral exam.

[red cliff]

Nope. I'm American

[tight dome]

Oh ok

You sounds like a Chinese friend of mine

[red cliff]

They must be very proficient in English 😁

[tight dome]

He went to an international school so yeah

[sage glen]

Back it up with some testosterone and you're gucc

[karmic nymph]

@red cliff Can you maybe help me with that?

[stone pendant]

Just send your voice. I’ll help

But I’m not native though

[ember hatch]

what does testosterone have to do with her reading of the passage

[sage glen]

Wdym?

It thickens of the vocal chords

[ember hatch]

but what does that have to do with the reading

Like, why do you suggest testosterone

jus confused

[sage glen]

It was a joke

[ember hatch]

dont get the joke :p

Would like to

[sage glen]

That joke is like food

[ember hatch]

that doesnt explain the joke

waitt are you saying her voice isnt deep

is that the joke