🗒｜pronunciation

[finite sapphire]

i fixed the message

[harsh cypress]

✅

Yes! I use it too thank you for the explanation

off ok I feel relieved

Thanks!

I knew ABT those differences though I really didn't analyse my pronunciation when recording the video

[finite sapphire]

i guess speaking is not about constantly analyzing your own pronunciation while speaking

its more about speaking with it being correct without analyzing

so it'd mean that somebody would have to familiarize themself with the words that are difficult for them beforehand

[harsh cypress]

Yes! or to identify at first glance the errors just like you did when you listened to my pronunciation

[finite sapphire]

"spelling" is reserved for writing down/typing down, letter by letter, or for pronouncing a word slowly, letter by letter

if you were spelling, you'd not speak, you'd say it like "w e l c o m e", so letter by letter right

so if you are saying something, then you are pronouncing it, not spelling it

[harsh cypress]

Ok, I js fixed my sentence

[weak sand]

hihi

[loud kestrel]

Hi

Where are you from?

[odd lily]

Hello everyone

I want to practice my pronunciation here, i'm working om british accent, so let me see what are your corrections about my Pronounciation

here is the text

Life is a rollercoaster, full of ups and downs, but it's important to take it one day at a time. Sometimes, things might not go according to plan, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Remember, every cloud has a silver lining, and what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. So, keep your chin up, stay positive, and always look on the bright side. At the end of the day, it's all about finding joy in the little things and making the most of every moment.

[sweet stag]

Hi Vell, it’s quite late for me and my throat is a little sore tonight, but a very well done on attempting here! I myself have a British accent and will send you my voice note tomorrow. ⭐️

[odd lily]

So lovely, thankyou belle. I appreciate that

[pallid gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9_H1USXpjM come what it know pls subcribe pls

[stuck turret]

Someone help me

[sweet stag]

Here it is, had to record it separately, not too sure of why the voice messaging wasn’t working for me.

My favourite part of yours was the last two sentences, especially when you said “at the end of the day”, that sounded like an English accent! What I would suggest is work on “downs” and “you”. Other than that, this is an excellent attempt and you’re not too far off from perfecting your British accent at all. Well done!

[odd lily]

Thankss for your feedback and suggestions belle. Do you have advices for me to improve my accent further and better?

[sweet stag]

So just as I noted earlier, I would suggest that you work on « downs » and « you ». Based on the recording you sent me, you should work on them both. Also, in this new recording you sent me, you need to work on how you say « sounding » too.

Downs, you and sounding.

Down and sound: are similar. For both words, you have to make an « ow » sound.

dOWn and sOWnd

You: Start with « y » sound and then say « oo »

[odd lily]

Downs and sounding has /aʊ/ diphtong. Hem, it means i need to work on that diphtong

[sweet stag]

Yes, exactly. It’s quite simple. That diphtong is an ow sound.

[odd lily]

Is the "ou" in "you" pronounced same as in hello?

Or is it same vowel as food?

[odd lily]

@sweet stag what do you think for that ?

[vestal cloak]

Yes, "you" is pronounced /ju/, like "food" /fud/

[sweet stag]

Yes. https://youtu.be/SE7adWXnnsM?si=XuUGxLaOD1htxIa5 that’s it. I can hear the ow sound a lot more clearly now.

And you is good too.

[odd lily]

I don't know why my voice change using voice recorder

Wait

Is it better

[sweet stag]

That sounds much better, Vell. I can clearly hear the improvement in the aʊ diphtong now. And the « oo » sound is very clear too. The first time, the way you pronounced « sound » and « down » sounded a bit (dare I say) Australian, but now it sounds much more like an English accent.

[odd lily]

Here is it, a paragraph that focuses on vowel as in down has:

The blue sky was clear, and the sound of the waves was soothing. A group of tourists found a beautiful house by the sea, where they could relax and enjoy the view.

https://voca.ro/1SWlsw01zeHS

[odd lily]

That's my recording . What dyou think about that?

[odd lily]

Yeahh, i also can hear the difference

[odd lily]

But waittt, I think, i made a same mistake

[sweet stag]

*Sound, not sounds. (Remember, this is singular, not plural).

[odd lily]

I see

[sweet stag]

Also, work on « view ». Listen to the way I say view and try to copy that.

[sweet stag]

Here you go! I’ll definitely stop the voice messaging now because when I record separately on my phone, you can hear both your voice and mine, which makes comparisons a lot easier.

[wise plover]

Was that bad

I was nervous

[sweet stag]

No, it wasn’t bad at all! So long as your aim was to pronounce words correctly, without necessarily attempting an English accent, that was very good. Well done, Karrar!

[wise plover]

Thanks

[finite sapphire]

Better than many people, whose accents I have witnessed

[wise plover]

Thank you

[sinful canopy]

I could understand you better than some native speakers I've had the misfortune of listening to

[odd lily]

I'm sorry for my late response belle. I wanted to say thankyou but some stuffs made me unable to response your feedback quickly

That's excellent feedbackk. I'm very happu with that

Here is my text:

In the early hours of a sunny morning, Emily decided to venture out to the nearby park. She brought along a basket filled with apples, oranges, and a bottle of juice. The air was fresh, and the birds chirped cheerfully as she walked along the winding path. She found a quiet spot under a large oak tree, where she could enjoy her picnic. As she settled down, she noticed the vibrant colours of the flowers blooming around her, each petal catching the gentle breeze. Emily took a deep breath, feeling the serenity of the moment wash over her.

Later, as the sky began to darken, she heard the distant cry of an owl. The night was approaching, and the park was now cloaked in shadows. Emily felt a slight chill, but she decided to stay a little longer. She watched as the bright stars started to twinkle, each one shining like a tiny beacon in the vast sky. Her thoughts wandered, and she found herself reflecting on life's countless mysteries. Despite the growing cold, she felt a deep sense of peace and wonder, knowing that every moment held its own unique beauty.

Which words that i need to work on it?

[odd lily]

The very obvious one is that i pronounced Park /pæk/ whereas /pɑːk/ is the right way

And i pronounce growing as /grɒɪŋ/ when it should be /grəʊɪŋ/

And "now" is pronounced as /nəʊ/ when i should say /naʊ/

Do i sound unclear to pronounce vowel/diphtong?

[jade trellis]

You pronounced "As she settled down" more like "shetted"

[odd lily]

Oh yeah i see. The l consonant is gone

[sinful canopy]

Was that very last word supposed to be view or pier? It sounded like a B, as if you were trying to say beer

[tacit spear]

I was trying to say view

[sinful canopy]

Try not to make your lips touch while saying the "V" sound

[odd lily]

Thankyou bellee!

[sweet stag]

You’re welcome!

[odd lily]

I've just knew that chirped and began are wrong pronounced

After you said that

[halcyon inlet]

Hi guys

[timid flint]

[haughty spindle]

+61

[fiery osprey]

Hello

[light bluff]

pls judge my speech 😄

One time a professor asked me if I’d ever wanted to write anything “more important” than romance, and I said no. I was put on this earth to write about sad people kissing. And if another writer ever came up to me and said they wanted to write 400 pages containing nothing but a character baking a single loaf of bread each day, then I would tell them to do that. People don't write something because it's important. They write about something and that is what makes it important.

[civic lichen]

Can someone check my pronunciation 🙊

[river lance]

hiii ur pronounciation was really good! i was able to understand everything perfectly. you have an accent for sure, but thats to be expected and is normal. great job mhm!

[river lance]

also your voice is really relaxing to listen to, i could listen to you read a book 😭

[winged frigate]

Hello Everyone! Looking forward to coaching anyone who wants to learn more about speaking (and writing) English #CertifiedTESOLTeacher

[civic lichen]

Omgggg, thank youuuuuu

[river lance]

Mhm!

[dim fable]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[tough lance]

How did you record a phone screen?

[civic lichen]

I used screen recording app bruh

[lethal mist]

looking for a native speaker who can address my pronunciation and stress and accents

[cunning vector]

hello

[forest lion]

Can I participate in this too?

[scarlet needle]

lovely

[cunning vector]

yes

[whole turtle]

Artocarpuc heterophyllus

Copsychus Capsaulauris

How to pronounce these words

[gilded musk]

In the early hours of a sunny morning, Emily decided to venture out to the nearby park. She brought along a basket filled with apples, oranges, and a bottle of juice. The air was fresh, and the birds chirped cheerfully as she walked along the winding path. She found a quiet spot under a large oak tree, where she could enjoy her picnic. As she settled down, she noticed the vibrant colours of the flowers blooming around her, each petal catching the gentle breeze. Emily took a deep breath, feeling the serenity of the moment wash over her.

Later, as the sky began to darken, she heard the distant cry of an owl. The night was approaching, and the park was now cloaked in shadows. Emily felt a slight chill, but she decided to stay a little longer. She watched as the bright stars started to twinkle, each one shining like a tiny beacon in the vast sky. Her thoughts wandered, and she found herself reflecting on life's countless mysteries. Despite the growing cold, she felt a deep sense of peace and wonder, knowing that every moment held its own unique beauty.

[civic lichen]

That was great, keep improving your pronunciation bruh🤟

[quick swallow]

hmm...

is a little strong accent in the end of each word?

of course, I am a beginner in english. so just that is my opinion.

how does everybody think?

please let's share our opinion

[lethal mist]

He seems to be Indian.

[quick swallow]

me?

[light bluff]

My text:

If you think of the jobs robots could never do, you would probably put doctors and teachers at the top of the list. It's easy to imagine robot cleaners and factory workers, but some jobs need human connection and creativity. But are we underestimating what robots can do? In some cases, they already perform better than doctors at diagnosing illness. Also, some patients might feel more comfortable sharing personal information with a machine than a person. Could there be a place for robots in education after all?

British education expert Anthony Seldon thinks so. And he even has a date for the robot takeover of the classroom: 2027. He predicts robots will do the main job of transferring information and teachers will be like assistants. Intelligent robots will read students' faces, movements and maybe even brain signals. Then they will adapt the information to each student. It's not a popular opinion and it's unlikely robots will ever have empathy and the ability to really connect with humans like another human can.

[high spruce]

I am confused about the pronunciation of 'comprehensive'. I look it up in the dictionary and it shows NAmE /ˌkɑːmprɪˈhensɪv/, but I heard it as /ˌkɒmprɪˈhensɪv/.

https://youglish.com/pronounce/comprehensive/english/us

[civic lichen]

You're doing well

Keep it up

[civic lichen]

Check my pronunciation please and I'll appreciate it🤗

[eternal ginkgo]

From my point of view its pretty good. Some words are spelled wrong but I would understand you.

[arctic inlet]

nah the previous recording

[quick swallow]

same here

[civic lichen]

Many thanks bruh

[deft ferry]

Hello friends, what do you think is the best way to improve English?

How to speak perfect in every sense

[robust parcel]

Hi, this is Adrian. I want to learn English and I'm looking for an English teacher who can teach me for at least an hour each day. I'm okay with a paid plan.

[cunning mica]

You might want to consider trying some English classes here. They're completely free, and many people find them very beneficial

[arctic inlet]

Haven’t spoken English in quite a while so I’m a bit rusty…

I know some words need to be spoken quicker to make the intonation sound natural but my mouth can’t keep up with the speed😭

[acoustic jacinth]

Hello

[arctic inlet]

Hi

[thorny tree]

Hello

[faint swan]

any examples?

[deft ferry]

hi guys

[gilded musk]

You was really confused cuz the IPA you have written was not the right one

We need professional English speakers who can help us understand what is right is wrong, who can help us to improve our pronounciation skills. Currently the session is missing this, not many spend their time to help us, this just becomes more boring.

Not saying much, your voice records just stay in the session without any feedback.

[arctic inlet]

“I went to her house”
“I” and “to her” are quicker and less emphasised, while “went” and “house” are stressed
It works like that right? It’s weird that you, a native, are asking an ESL speaker who’s barely advanced

[unborn drum]

Hello, Recorded this audio clip, pls bare with my microphone quality its pretty bad

[cunning mica]

This isn't really a British accent; it sounds more like an American accent with some Canadian bits and a bit of British

[cunning mica]

which is good because I dislike British accent

And I really like your profile picture

[unborn drum]

yeah tbh, its just my profile name i can't do a british accent.thanks

[spiral oriole]

Guua

[merry thicket]

hello everyone

[flat sand]

Hi, what do you think I should improve?

When you take that field today, you've gotta lay that heart on the line, men. From the soles of your feet, with every ounce of blood you've got in your body, lay it on the line until the final whistle blows. And if you do that, if you do that, we cannot lose. We may be behind on the scoreboard at the end of the game but if you play like that, we cannot be defeated.

[cunning mica]

You make some strange pauses throughout the reading

You're reading it so quickly that it's hard to understand

[finite sapphire]

"men" was surely off

you slur words together, which makes it difficult to follow

and kinda mishape them, like you cut off the endings of the words. For example in "defeated"

It's not entirely incoherent and unintelligible, but it's not very easy to understand

It's not horrible. You can improve. Try reading aloud more often, and make sure you do not cut off too many parts of the words. Listening will help too

[flat sand]

Thank you for your feedbacks, I will think about it and try again later.

[haughty goblet]

What is the different between connection and connection (stressing on the nn in the second word ) ?

[haughty goblet]

@devout trellis

@river lance

disgusting how rude you are to send such things in public rooms

it is not funy
if i meet in real life it would not be very funny as i will f.ukk you up you understand that we..irdo ??

this guy in the photo is a human being overall
no matter what thought he has he should be respected like any other citizin
this is what i hate about discord and other social online apps you can not find the guy who send rude things and fukk him

[granite venture]

<@&852814479569059840> do the thing

No you twat

There are marginally more disastrous issues facing the nation

If you’re throwing a hissy fit over someone being trans step off

☝️🤓

You gotta be sensitive as all hell if this is what offends you

It isn’t about you

[haughty goblet]

if they get the job done corectly then where is the issue ?

[granite venture]

dumbass

[granite venture]

For real

[haughty goblet]

hey answer my question

[granite venture]

Bro is talking to a wall

<@&852814479569059840> can y’all step on it???

[haughty goblet]

stop sending to him please i want him to focus on one thing his mind can not handle many things

if they get the job done corectly then where is the issue ?

i have got a screen shot of everything

[granite venture]

Dude he sent uncensored images of someone’s corpse, do you doubt he’s a troll?

[unborn mulch]

i removed it

and banned

🙂

[granite venture]

He’s not here to make a point he’s here to piss people off

[unborn mulch]

sorry its 4:30 am here xD

[granite venture]

Thanks

[haughty goblet]

what country are you in

itally ?

[granite venture]

Lmao I just know he’s gonna go on 4chan and be like “They banned me for speaking the truth 🤓”

[unborn mulch]

sweden xD

[odd edge]

I'm a mod there

[granite venture]

crazy

[merry thicket]

What are you all doing

[haughty goblet]

studying history right now

and for the rest of the day

[unreal pollen]

What are are you learning about in history.

[cunning mica]

Fake Mod

😡

[cunning mica]

You sound Asian to me, your accent seems a bit Asian

[bronze arrow]

God damn ! The English class had started

God pronunciation

It's really confusing to me

[bronze arrow]

Anyone know the meaning

[compact otter]

img not clear zoom in

[arctic inlet]

Which word? Also I can explain to you in Chinese

[bronze arrow]

Not the meaning

Grammar

Had done / have has done

How to distinguishing difference

[arctic inlet]

Oh fck

I’m not sure either💀

Sorry

[analog nymph]

Had done=past perfect
Have has done : not pretty sure if this correct cuz it's usually
The past like: he had has done it again'
It's usually have+had +stem
Or had+had
Not sure tho

[finite sapphire]

Your remark about it being like "he had has done" is incorrect. This is not correct, and there is no grammar rule to back this one up. It doesn't match any tense at this point, cuz both past perfect, and present perfect, look in a different way. You most likely wanted to mention "He had had done it again", this one is correct and that's past perfect already, or you wanted to create something like "He has done it again", then you'd create present perfect. It's likely that you wanted to mention something like "He's done it again", then this is the short form from he has done it again, which again, is present perfect.

[finite sapphire]

"have has done" is incorrect. You can say he, she, it has done. I, you, we, they have done

I have done it. You have done it. He has done it. She has done it. It has done it. We have done it. They have done it

This is all present perfect

[finite sapphire]

Had done is past perfect.
Have done or has done is present perfect.

https://langeek.co/en/grammar/course/552/present-perfect-vs-past-perfect#:~:text=The main difference between present,has occurred in the past.

it has a nice explanation

https://englishlive.ef.com/en/blog/language-lab/english-grammar-help-present-perfect-and-past-perfect/

This explanation is good too

One of the sites I linked above has a picture like this. Tenses on a timeline. It's helpful to visualize

If you take your time to read these, you will get this. Just calmly read it and don't get too stressed if it sounds very difficult at first

[mild marlin]

hi

any body here can you talk me

[river lance]

hi

what do u wanna talk?

[mild marlin]

to improve me english

my*

[river lance]

same here .i also need to improve it

which country are u live in?

[mild marlin]

can you talk

in voice

[river lance]

lets talk in chatting

[mild marlin]

no in voice

[river lance]

i am absoulately sorry i cant

[mild marlin]

please

[river lance]

sorry .i cant

☹☹☹

cant u talk in chat

?

[cunning veldt]

just join to any vc

[merry thicket]

hello

[flat sand]

is it any better?
What should I improve?

When you take that field today, you've gotta lay that heart on the line, men. From the soles of your feet, with every ounce of blood you've got in your body, lay it on the line until the final whistle blows. And if you do that, if you do that, we cannot lose. We may be behind on the scoreboard at the end of the game but if you play like that, we cannot be defeated.```

[full falcon]

can i read that too

js for fun

[swift crag]

heyy maybe you can improve "just exactly" part, also try working on "until" aswell

sorry im not the best at english but those words caught my attention, i hope it was helpful enough

[swift crag]

lol i wanna give it a try aswell 😭

[flat sand]

Thank you, do you want the original audio? I removed the music.

[swift crag]

oh sure, i dont mind

[arctic inlet]

https://voca.ro/1eMUISumHuaG

“Please call Stella. Ask her to bring these things with her from the store: Six spoons of fresh snow peas, five thick slabs of blue cheese, and maybe a snack for her brother Bob. We also need a small plastic snake and a big toy frog for the kids. She can scoop these things into three red bags, and we will go meet her Wednesday at the train station.”

Any feedback is appreciated, just learned that this passage is used to analyse a person’s pronunciation and accent so I tried it out

[flat sand]

Thank you for sharing it, I will try too.

I will try again when I'm less tired.
Here the first attempt.

[bitter wolf]

that was fun

[lilac maple]

Hi

[final escarp]

The English with the best pronunciation is British.

[finite sapphire]

the English with the best pronunciation is the one you speak, my wonderful human, if I can understand you

[iron thorn]

How do you guys pronounce croissants?

[lethal mist]

I am not sure this is correct,

[vestal cloak]

I would say it like /kɹəˈsɑnts/

But some people also say it more like French, though I'm not sure about the plural

[iron thorn]

Is that german?

[vestal cloak]

What do you mean?

[iron thorn]

K//sants. Idk what // means.

[finite sapphire]

This is IPA notation

IPA is international phonetic alphabet

So every word can be written using it to represent how it is pronounced

And you can just look up the letters between the / and the second /, for example on YouTube, to know how they sound

[iron thorn]

oh thanks for telling me that!

ill check it out

[finite sapphire]

yeah, it is helpful because it always is consistent. So there is nothing like "bring" and "bribe" in which "i" sounds in two different ways. Every IPA sound is written the same and read the same

[vestal cloak]

Since English pronunciation is so unpredictable, I highly recommend learning at least the IPA symbols for the sounds in English. Some dictionaries and other resources only provide the IPA notation, so you may not always be able to listen to how a word is pronounced.

• /ɹ/ is the English R sound
• /ə/ is the "uh" sound used for most unstressed vowels in English, like at the end of "comma"
• /ɑ/ is the back "ah" sound like in "bath" in Standard Southern British
• ˈ shows which syllable is stressed (the one after it)
• The other letters sound like how they normally sound in English

[iron thorn]

thanks

[thorn wadi]

Hello Everyone

[quaint folio]

Hi

[queen marsh]

Hello, i wanted to know how i can say sentences with a lot of THs fast

Also how to improve my hability to use better words

[bitter wolf]

idk just use it a lot until u get used to it, it took me a while to go from holding the sound to just simply "tapping it"

[finite sapphire]

first learn how the voiced th (as in "these" or "this") and the voiceless th (as in "thin") sound like, and then well, gotta practice. That's not easy at first but it's possible

[queen marsh]

Okay, now is about finding someone to practice with

[finite sapphire]

this is something that happens among kids sometimes. Some kids can not pronounce some sounds properly. So their speech therapists make them repeat after themselves, every X days or a week, and the kids train themselves

[queen marsh]

Interesting

[finite sapphire]

well I just do it myself cuz am not a kid anymore lol. But that's a nice thing to know

[bitter wolf]

u dont rly need anyone to practice sounds with

i used to like read a bunch of texts out loud until i get the sound right

[modest sphinx]

Learn this song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41WVZiwuQ9g

[flat sand]

ah yes, thank you. I pronounced a diphtong instead of the 'a' as in cat.
I will try again later, I'm too tired now.

thank you, z/th is a tricky transition.

Ok, thank you. I'll try.
I just have some ohter things to finish before.

[bitter wolf]

the way you pronounced the T in stella sounded unnatural to me

[bitter wolf]

if you overthink about it pronouncing it as st.hella may throw some ppl off mid convo and they might get stuck on how the speaker pronounced the name and what theyre talking ab at all

jk

[regal kestrel]

Hello, can someone give mi a feedback please 🙏 I'm focusing on American accent

[finite sapphire]

I can feel your polish accent very easily, it wasn't american like at all. Maybe cuz am polish and I know how they sound like. Very standard mistakes I guess, your "free" and "three"/"thick"/"things" are the same while they shouldn't be (f and th are different). I mean I am not surprised cuz I know how English in polish schools looks like so don't take it seriously

also

in big, i inside is not the same as in polish words like "igła" or "iskrzyć" or "idioci"

it sounds like polish y sound

like, it should sound like y, yours does not

Big, inside, immunity, immature, thick, slick, thin, sin, fin, slim, etc. You most likely know how to pronounce them, not perfectly, but you're good - now, you could replace your habit of making "i" into "y" as in "wyjść" or "mydło"

So "slim" should sound like "slym" from the perspective of a polish speaker

in every word, in which you have an "i" sound as in "slim" or as in "fit", you can just start making polish Y

They do not teach you this in schools here, and many polish teachers who teach english do not do this. Therefore you don't know it. But it actually should sound like "y"

Like

Polish should sound like "połlysz" to you

not like "polisz" or "połlisz"

Or an another example of the same thing, "thing" should sound like "thyng" with polish Y sound.
"Fit" should sound like "fyt"

You most likely pronounce fit as feat/feet. The same way. Polish tend to do this, slavs in general. They are not. Fit sounds like fyt pronounced in polish, feat/feet sounds like fit pronounced in polish

that's an easy thing to be improved very quickly

"Improved" does not sound like "Improved" in polish, it sounds like "Ympruft" in polish

[finite sapphire]

I hear no American in this one, but you can be understood easily, so don't worry a lot. You did well, even if you have some space for improvement

[regal kestrel]

Thank you for this comprehensive feedback. I know these rules but it's hard to get rid off this habit of pronunce "i" like polish "i" I'm fighting with that 😅 So as clarification I made mistake by saying I'm focused on American accent I meant American pronunciation and I think these are different things. Am I right?

[finite sapphire]

these two are the same thing

[finite sapphire]

for example, the words you used right here right, like "rid" is gonna be ryd

or habit is hebyt, not literally habit

[bitter wolf]

"please" sounds off

try to say l after the p sound faster, think of them as one single sound

[finite sapphire]

it is understandable but I agree

[bitter wolf]

also it may be because its 4 am and im not hearing things properly but i couldnt rly hear the r in store either

americans have pretty strong Rs iirc

[finite sapphire]

sounded kinda British inspired

[regal kestrel]

It's hard for me to focus on reading and pronunciation yet 😅 As you know we didn't speak in school that's why I'm struggling with that, but practice makes you perfect 👌 I appreciate yours advice and now I know what to improve because I didn't hear it even in my recording

[finite sapphire]

yeah, if you listen more you'll start to pick up on new patterns and things and improve gradually

[regal kestrel]

I've purchased Elsa speak I hope it will help me a little bit. Did you use it guys?

[bitter wolf]

no i just practiced a bunch of sounds on a channel called Sounds American then started playing roblox a lot and talking to ppl to get used to using those sounds in a real convo

ive heard of elsa speak tho, seems like a pretty cool app

[bitter wolf]

yea

[bitter wolf]

but its not as good as elsa speak since theres nothing to point out ur mistake, so what i did was i recorded myself talking and listened to it to see if anything sounds off

[regal kestrel]

I wish I could talk with people while playing games, but unfortunately, I do not have enough time to do that.

[bitter wolf]

elsa speak should prob be rly good now considering how much AI has developed cuz the last time i ever heard ab it was like 7 years ago and it was still a pretty decent app back then

[bitter wolf]

u dont rly need to play games with people everyday to practice english, personally i just use roblox to play hangout games where theres basically nothing else to do other than talk to ppl

and i usually try to find americans there to talk to

[regal kestrel]

You see the problem is, my ears are not attuned yet to catch my own mistakes

[bitter wolf]

well maybe u can work on the sounds for a couple days

and post it here for ppl to check

try to exaggerate the sound when ur practicing it, cuz most ppl tend to weaken the sound when they are talking in a normal convo compared to when theyre trying to pronounce just the sound alone

[bitter wolf]

listen to english content more ig, it doesnt have to be a video about learning english, it could be anything as long as its in english (would be best if the people speaking in the video are also native)

focus on both ur input and output, they improve each other

[regal kestrel]

Yeah, I can pronunce separate word perfect but then when I'm reading or speaking my brain is focused on all things but not good pronunce 😂

I listen and watch a lot english content but I'm behind with speaking

[sharp dirge]

i have trouble pronouncing "better,sufficient, specify"

[bitter wolf]

try mirroring the dialogues in the videos

or like read out loud a text slowly

ur priority should be pronoucing the sounds correctly, and then the accent, speed comes later

[bitter wolf]

better sounds kinda off

sounds like bettou to me

[regal kestrel]

So americans have a stronger R?

[bitter wolf]

maybe ill give it another listen tmr cuz im prob just going crazy from the lack of sleep

[bitter wolf]

i dont think the R is the problem in this one

its the vowel

i think?

it could also be ur mouth shape when pronouncing the R

[regal kestrel]

Get some sleep I will too because it's late for me too 😄 Good night and once again thanks for feedback and advice, now I have a clear goal to focus on pronunciation

[bitter wolf]

Yeah i think its the vowel, try to think of the pronunciation as beduhr

[bitter wolf]

Ight gn

[finite sapphire]

the entire pitch accent and stress seems to be the problem

same for me when I try to pronounce vnmese

I have absolutely no sense of how to stress

because stressing is so different (in my native and vnmese, am used to English already so am not talking about it here)

[bitter wolf]

Maybe cuz hes stressing those words like jow u stress items in a list

[finite sapphire]

yeah

lacks a bit of intuition

[bitter wolf]

Nah its ight vietnamese is also hard for me too

Im not even pronouncing some of the sounds correctly even tho im full vietnamese

[finite sapphire]

My mouth lags sometimes. The worst is like, bảy mươi bảy, cuz it requires me to make these very different tones so quickly

while I can do this but only if they are alone lmao

[bitter wolf]

U can just say bảy bảy

I usually say bảy m bảy or just bảy bảy

I use a lot of reductions when i speak vietnamese 😔

[finite sapphire]

id get confused if somebody told me bay bay to mean 77... no way I'd figure out it is supposed to be bay muoi bay

Yeah like vnmese are just magical

[bitter wolf]

Think of it like the word of

Ppl sometimes drop the v sound and just say uh instead of uhv

The word muoi is kinds like that, but either reducted to the point where its just "m" or entirely reducted

[elfin zealot]

Hello everyone

How can improve my pronunciation?

[bright plank]

Hi Samia,
Just a quick email to say that sounds like a great idea. Saturday is better for me because I'm meeting my parents on Sunday. So if that's still good for you, why don't you come here? Then you can see the new flat and all the work we've done on the kitchen since we moved in. We can eat at home and then go for a walk in the afternoon. It's going to be so good to catch up finally. I want to hear all about your new job! Let me know if there's anything you do/don't like to eat. Really looking forward to seeing you!

Hello! Could anyone give me a feedback about the pronunciation ? (p.s. sorry if the sound is quiet I have some troubles with the mic)

[bitter wolf]

i heard "we can ate at home"

i also heard "aftune" instead of afternoon

i may have heard a schwa sound in job too, like a "juhb" instead of a "jawb" or "jaab", im not sure ab this one tho

[elfin zealot]

Oh

[bright plank]

Okay got it, I will try to work on that. Thank you! Afternoon is the craziest word, I can't pronounce it fully lol. Btw, do I have a strong Slavic accent or something?

[vestal cloak]

Your "afternoon" sounds okay to me. Just practice keeping the second and third syllables a little more separate. :)

"Job" sounds fine to me, but the O sounds more like a front /a/, which I might expect to hear from an American speaker, while other words like "afternoon" sound like the standard British pronunciation. Not really a problem, but if you're aiming for Standard British overall, it should be more like /d͡ʒɒb/.

I agree that "We can eat" sounds like "We can ate", although to me it's more like something between the two rather than distinctly one or the other. The second "eat" sounds great!

You do have a noticeable accent, but I wouldn't say it's too strong or obviously Slavic. My advice would be to take a deep breath and try to slow down a little while you speak. Your pronunciation is pretty good, but sometimes you sound a bit rushed and the words/syllables start to meld together. Just take your time and focus on the words.

One last little thing I'd mention is that in the first two sentences, there's a little too much force on some of the stressed words and syllable, like "Just a quick eMAIL to say that SOUNDS like a good iDEa. Saturday is BEtter for me beCAUSE I'm meeting my PARents on Sunday." The stress in "email" should be on the first syllable; other than that you're stressing all the right syllables, just too strongly. I also hear this on "afternoon", but besides that, I don't notice it in the other sentences. This isn't a big deal and kind of nitpicky, so don't worry too much about it! Just something to note as you practice.

[finite sapphire]

this stress accent made me actually not recognize the word "email" at all lol

yeah, I could've guessed it from the context, but it just sounded so odd. My brain was looking for some other word with the stress they used. And I also did not understand the word "parents" for some reason, maybe cuz of the stress as well

[finite sapphire]

I would guess that you are Slavic tbh. Maybe cuz am also Slavic. But this is not a really strong Slavic accent

[bright plank]

Aha now I see my problem. I guess I am too emotional sometimes and that's why I can stress wrong words, meld them. Some people don't understand me because of that. To be honest, I've only been working on improving my speaking skills for the past two years, before that I had never spoken. I'll focus on slowing down my speech, thank you so much for the detailed feedback! I genuinely appreciate it, Schuyler!!

[bright plank]

Yeah, it's a Slavic feature

[finite sapphire]

it's interesting in a way, I guess. That Schuyler got it immediately, but to me as a non-native, this change in stress was already enough to make me not understand "parents" and "email"

although

if I really tried it, I'd probably guess them. But I didn't catch it at first

[pallid garnet]

problem I see with a lot of non-natives is they speak robotically

intonation and phrasing

[finite sapphire]

agreed lol. Happens quite often with many people. Not everyone, of course

[pallid garnet]

80%

[fathom elbow]

How do I know when to flap T or D

and how do I exactly flap them

I'm really only able to say t or d or one unrolled R sound specific for my language

but that unrolled r is pretty much just a tap to the alveolar ridge so

it's simmilar but not exactly the same

[twilit ivy]

Hi, I'm trying to learn how to pronounce the consonant ‘dʒ’ but I don't know if I'm doing it right. If anyone can give me their opinion I would really appreciate it, thank you.

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[bitter wolf]

sounds like ch to me

d3 is basically just ch but voiced

also for juice its like j-oo-s not j-oo-e-s

hope that makes sense

[finite sapphire]

agreed

the same feeling for me

[finite sapphire]

You most likely struggle with saying these:

Choke
Joke

Chew
Jew

Chain
Jane

Cheap
Jeep

I assume so, because you pronounce ch and j the same way

Soo... if you could listen to them (find them on YouTube or on forvo) repeatedly, you may eventually hear the subtle difference

[twilit ivy]

Thanks, I've watched tutorials and they said it was like a ‘ch’ vibrating the vocal cords’ but I think I'm just making a weird “ch”.

[twilit ivy]

thanks

[finite sapphire]

Am surprised that your native language doesn't have them tbh. My native has both as different sounds

[twilit ivy]

What is your native language if I can ask?

[finite sapphire]

Polish

Spoken in Poland. That's next to Germany, to the right

[bitter wolf]

try humming/vibrating the vocal cords first

then say ch and hol dit

[finite sapphire]

What's yours

[twilit ivy]

Spanish

[finite sapphire]

Ahhh

[bitter wolf]

my native language doesnt have a lot of sounds in english so i had to learn the tongue positions for most of em

[finite sapphire]

I remember you lol. Vietnamese right. It is a nightmare for me. Like vietnamese sounds: th vs t, kh vs h vs k, and many other tiny ones. Not even mentioning the tones

The same story as for viets learning english

[bitter wolf]

lol yeah

vietnamese sounds are mostly weaker than english sounds

i still kinda struggle with the J, like i always have to add a really short but barely noticeable hum before saying it

[finite sapphire]

some vietnamese speaking English sound almost absolutely incomprehensible to me, I've encountered such. Not everyone tho

[fathom elbow]

ny native lang has all the consonants the english has but there's less variations amongst the vowels and in my lang they are pronounced from the throat unlike from the mouth

[finite sapphire]

you probably meant consonants, not consolidants

[fathom elbow]

yeah

auto correct lol

[finite sapphire]

what's the language then

[bitter wolf]

yeah cuz theyre too used too pronouncing sounds weakly and not moving their mouth much when talking

[bitter wolf]

oh so like very little mouth movements?

[finite sapphire]

I have an opposite experience lmao. I feel like vietnamese move their mouths a lot more than I do, that's why they can speak with the tones. But maybe the movement comes from their throat or back of the mouth, not the mouth

[twilit ivy]

Sorry to bother you, is this better?

[bitter wolf]

now that you mention it, yeah it does come from the throat cuz i can say all the tones without moving my lips

[bitter wolf]

kinda but still sounds like ch too me

also, dont pronounce the Ps and the Bs so hard

[fathom elbow]

croatian

[twilit ivy]

thanks

[fathom elbow]

Kind of yeah

[bitter wolf]

@twilit ivy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJJ3hhHtjtI&t=1s

[fathom elbow]

We don't open mouths while talking as much as english speakers

toi

too

[bitter wolf]

this video has an animation of the tongue movement

[bitter wolf]

samee

[finite sapphire]

Yes. I tried to make them myself. Like ma with different tones to mean rice seedling or a ghost. Or ba meaning older lady or three

Then my throat moves differently, not the lips

[bitter wolf]

yeah the different between `, no tone and ' is like 3 different pitches

like when ur singing

[fathom elbow]

but it depends on the dialect in mine

the same stands for all the pronunciations of all those tsch ch j sounds etc

that's why i never had problem with them in English

[finite sapphire]

The good old classic - con di ngu - but in different ways. Wonderful

[twilit ivy]

thank you, It is an amazing video.

[vestal cloak]

"Juice" and "job" almost sound right to me. The rest sounds like a mix of "ch" (/t͡ʃ/), a separate "t + sh" (/tʃ/), and something that's not quite either

It seems like you're changing where and how you're positioning your tongue, rather than changing your voicing - "voicing" is when your vocal cords vibrate.

Compare the sound of T, F, S /t, f, s/ (unvoiced) with D, V, Z /d, v, z/ (voiced). If you hold your hand against your throat, you should feel a vibration with DVZ but not TFS.

The difference between "ch" /t͡ʃ/ and "j" /d͡ʒ/ is the same. Note the way you say DVZ differently from TFS and do the same to "ch" to make "j"

Another thing you can try is to practice saying a /d/ sound and a /ʒ/ sound (like in "deciSIon" or "uSually") separately and then putting them together, trying to pronounce them more or less as one sound

(Maybe this was all explained in the video already. I don't have the time to watch it right now.)

[fathom elbow]

Can you tell me when should I flap the T and D sounds and how do you pronounce that

[twilit ivy]

My last try for today with the ‘dʒ’. If someone may give me feedback I will thank you.

[vestal cloak]

It depends on the dialect. In American English, T is commonly flapped when it's between two vowels, like in "butter" or "later"

It's pronounced as /ɾ/, like a single R in Spanish. It can also be heard in many other languages that typically trill the R (/r/). It's basically like a trilled R, but instead of flapping repeatedly, the tongue just does one quick flap

[finite sapphire]

It didn't sound like the IPA sound you mentioned

It sounded like this one

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_alveolo-palatal_affricate

They have the audio for this

So you can compare

Yeah it definitely sounds like this one

[vestal cloak]

I agree with black cat that it sounds more like that sound 👆 than the English one, but you're close now and the voicing is correct! It doesn't sound quite like a native speaker, but it would be understood as "j" now and not "ch".

Maybe try moving your tongue down away from the roof of your mouth a little more, but for now I'd suggest just working on pronouncing it shorter and with less force. Practice making the /d/ and /ʒ/ blend together more smoothly and with the same amount of emphasis as the rest of the word. That's generally more important than making exactly the right sound.

[finite sapphire]

The /d͡ʑ/ sound that I pasted above is just the polish dź sound right lol. I wonder if you noticed. You probably did

[bitter wolf]

yeah i feel like the /ʒ/ is what hes struggling with cuz hes not used to voicing it

[twilit ivy]

thank you everyone, tomorrow I will practice more

[vestal cloak]

Yep lol

[fathom elbow]

Oh so you're telling me that I already knew how to pronounce it the whole time lol? I mean huh now the fact that i'd always hear the word letter as lerer or the word electricity as electriciry makes sense

[river lance]

https://youtu.be/Y7FUneS1mBs?si=Hq7rfTZhTaTB6roK

[barren atlas]

Audiobook for english beginners suggestion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0l-oxGw0mA

[dapper pilot]

Hello

[vestal cloak]

I don't know if I like that video. She's transcribing the sound as a /d/, which is the IPA symbol for a voiced alveolar stop, and then explaining it as "make sure there's no stop" ... That's definitely going to confuse people and make it harder to learn than it needs to be 😅 "T-flapping" and "T-voicing" both exist, but they're two different things. She's explaining a flapped T while transcribing a voiced T

A momentary, not-a-stop alveolar stop is an alveolar tap, also known as /ɾ/

[opaque drift]

3642pixelpurplefire

[river lance]

Lol

[river lance]

She is using phonemics

Have you even watched the video 📹 😳

[vestal cloak]

Me? How would I know how she was transcribing it if I hadn't watched the video lol

What I mean is it's misleading to transcribe the sound as /d/ when in reality it's a tapped /ɾ/. That teaches learners that it's supposed to sound like the normal D sound. The fact that her Russian and Polish students are having trouble with exactly that is a sign of this. Both of those languages have /ɾ/ as an allophone of /r/ and speakers should be able to pronounce something like [bɛɾə(ɹ)] no problem. If they're pronouncing it as a stop, that's because it's not being transcribed/explained to them accurately.

[river lance]

You did not see the part where she said is not a stopped sound?

As she says in many videos, she uses phonemics instead of ipa, so the /d/ is not international here, is the flap t

[vestal cloak]

I think you need to read what I wrote again. She SAID it's not a stop, yes, but the transcription she's showing is representing it as a stop. Showing a stop and then giving a confusing explanation of "it's not a stop" is not an effective way to teach pronunciation. Learners rely on accurate transcriptions and they expect it to be IPA; transcribing the word in a way that's not how it's actually pronounced is not helpful.

[river lance]

It's not phonetic

The phonemics are ment to be interpreted, not literally 😑 understood

[vestal cloak]

And that's the problem. Try imagining it from a learner's perspective. Transcribing /ɾ/ as /d/ is not helpful for someone trying to learn accurate pronunciation

Expecting learners to know how to interpret a phonemic transcription is making things unnecessarily confusing and setting them up for incorrect pronunciation

Like I said, Russian and Polish speakers should not be having a problem with this. If they are, that's showing a flaw in the teaching method

[river lance]

So she should change the phonemics she using rn?

[river lance]

I'm a learner and I understand that phonemics are not literal or international

I think you believe students are stupid

[river lance]

She says the Russian and polish stuggle coz of stopping ✋️ too much, not because of the symbols she uses 🙄, if you want to blame them for the interpretation of a phonemics system, I want to say you would be a great teacher yourself

[vestal cloak]

They're stopping too much because they're being shown the symbol for a STOP. If it were transcribed accurately as /ɾ/, they would not have a problem pronouncing it without stopping

[vestal cloak]

... So why do you have the native role?

[river lance]

I learn a different language 😌

[river lance]

😆 lol

That is what I mean, you don't even listen to what she says

You assume learners read it as it is

Phonetics would, this is phonemics, they change

[river lance]

Well, as I said, you assume that's the reason why they struggle

[vestal cloak]

So what exactly is the advantage to transcribing phonemically instead of phonetically? Genuine question. It seems ridiculously illogical and unhelpful to me, but if you're so adamant about defending it, maybe you see something I don't

[river lance]

you should have asked that first

Well, there are so many different systems out there, phonemic ones that differ from each other, there is no benefit per say that one may have...

[vestal cloak]

Okay, look. Can we stop with the attitude of superiority and have a mature discussion please 🙄 You've been like this in several messages. If you're going to keep it up, I'm done here

[river lance]

Ight I'll stop ✋️ (stop t)

So lemme tell you something else...

There are some contradiction between one and the other it seems, you have merriam Webster not agreeing with Cambridge and then Google stating one of the guffiest things I seen, so no, there is no benefit from just believing whole sale what the phonemics show, you have to always interpret it, no matter what you are shown 😉. IPA is actually better, but some resources don't even get it right a 100%

[river lance]

I'm not supposed to be superior than nobody 😔 🤧

I'm just an acorn

[vestal cloak]

Alright ... But hang on then, if you agree that IPA is better, then what are we arguing about lol

What I'm saying is that if "better" with a flapped T is pronounced like [bɛɾə(ɹ)], it should be transcribed like that with standard IPA and that there's no logical reason to add unnecessary confusion by requiring people to know how correctly interpret [bɛdəɹ]. What I don't understand is why you seem to be defending transcribing it with /d/ instead. Do you see a benefit there?

I understood from the start that her transcription was phonemic. My stance is that we should encourage using standardized, phonetically accurate transcriptions to make it easiest for learners. Why require guesswork when IPA exists?

[river lance]

The "should" you put there shows you assum many things, so that's what we were arguing about

I'm defending that it is not standard IPA

So no need to criticize it either

[vestal cloak]

And why are you defending it not being standard IPA? I know it's not. That was clear from the beginning. Why are you defending it? "It's not meant to be IPA; therefore your criticism that she should use IPA is invalid" is not an argument.

You still haven't answered my question. Is there a reason you think it makes sense not to use standard IPA, or that using IPA would not be a more effective/logical transcription method? If so, I'd be interested to know why. If not, what exactly is all the arguing about? Genuinely wondering if this just loyalty to the channel or if you honestly see an advantage to this method and/or a disadvantage to IPA that I don't.

[river lance]

Yes

[vestal cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/dean-winchester-supernatural-facepalm-gif-27193320

I don't know why I thought this could be an intelligent linguistic discussion. You win. I give up.

[dapper otter]

@river lance

Hi

Is somebody here

[river lance]

Hi

[river lance]

Welcome to the server Sam

[river lance]

Yes

[night breach]

Z

[river lance]

“Hey this is Eric Lee from the customer support team, this call may be monitored for quality assurance”

[river lance]

Was trying to get a customer support job and they said because:
a lisp, high pitched voice, and slight speech impediment

anyone down to help a man fix those issues and get a job

[finite sapphire]

you blended quality and assurance together, this could've been unrecognizable to many. To me it was, but you provided the text, so I know what it is

it feels as if you... well, maybe as if you kept your mouth kinda closed, like very narrow and not wide enough to say everything clearly. It just feels like this to me, that you barely open the lips

[vestal cloak]

After listening a couple times, I can understand you pretty well, but I have to admit, I would have had trouble at first without the text to read.

The thing about a call center job is that it can be hard sometimes to understand someone over the phone even with no accent. Employers will want to hire someone who speaks very clearly. I don't mean to discourage you; just that if you're looking at jobs where you'd primarily be making phone calls, I think it would be a good idea to find a speech tutor to work with you one-on-one because you'd want to really finetune your speaking skills.

That wouldn't be me, but the advice I'd give right now would be to slow down a little and practice pronouncing each word clearly, trying not to mumble or let the words blend together too much. For example, the "is" at the beginning is not really audible; it sounds like "Hey, this Eric Lee ...". Make sure you pronounce it as a separate syllable and don't let it merge with the S in "this".

I have no idea why they would complain about a "high-pitched voice". Your pitch is fine, and even if it were higher, I don't know why that would be a problem. Maybe the person who listened to you just wanted someone with a very deep voice for some reason. 🤷

I do have to agree about the lisp point - to improve that, try not to stick your tongue quite as far out and/or bring your teeth closer together so that you get a sharper hissing /s/ sound, less like "th" /θ/.

You do sound like someone with a speech impediment (of course, if you aren't a native speaker, then "speech impediment" just means you have an accent), but I wouldn't know what else to point out specifically to work on. Your consonants & vowels honestly sound pretty good to me, just overall you sound kind of indistinct and too ... nasal, maybe?

[river lance]

Hi there, I could talk to you in vc and practice some pronunciation

[buoyant juniper]

So, how read that ieroglyphs

[buoyant juniper]

india mentioned

[river lance]

@river lance @finite sapphire @vestal cloak what you think? I feel like I’m over pronouncing “t”

[river lance]

Appreciate this a lot I tried improving by doing what you suggested for an hour

[river lance]

@ me so I get notified so I hopefully respond in real time

[bitter wolf]

assurance sounds a bit weak

[thorny tree]

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[hollow bay]

hello i am new for server

[fossil remnant]

Hello I'm looking for an english native speaker who can check my pronunciation!

If you're interested pls dm mee!! Thank youu!! :))

[vestal cloak]

I think this one (the last one) sounds the best so far!

You sound a bit clearer and I can hear the "is" after "this" now.

The two things that stand out to me are that 1) the second vowel in your "support" sounds like /y/, like the German "ü" sound. It should be /ɔ/, which is further back and more open.

And 2) as tom vn also said, "assurance" sounds weak and a bit hard to understand, I think maybe because it's the last word in the sentence. Try to pronounce it fully and avoid trailing off before the sentence is finished.

Your S still sounds kind of "lispy" to me, too. It would probably be most effective to practice it by listening and repeating after someone, either in voice chat or with a pronunciation video.

You might also find this video helpful/interesting: https://youtu.be/o8WeXem5YMQ

[finite sapphire]

assurance was impossible to understand to me tbh

[river lance]

Welcome to the server and pronunciation text channel

[river lance]

The letters are read depending in the system, these are not hieroglyphics 😳, what accent do you want to learn your pronunciation from?. There are a couple of systems or alphabets that would change depending on the accent.
Would you like me to explain one of them?

[obsidian flame]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-K_rOSqpEJ/?igsh=bGhrcDNqMnhoMGhz

millimeter_om

#ac #vrf #airconditioning #mechanical

Instagram

[fathom elbow]

Is flapped T really pronounced like the unthrilled R sound found in the Slavic languages, Spanish and Italian?

[river lance]

Those are not slavic, the Spanish r I could say it's basically the same thing as the flap t

I don't know about the rest of languages

[river lance]

Are you trying to improve your pronunciation on that sound?

[vestal cloak]

It is pronounced as an alveolar tap (/ɾ/). It's the same sound as in the Spanish word "pero", yes - not like the alveolar trill (/r/) in "perro".

It can be heard in Slavic languages, but as an allophone of /r/. I don't know if there are any that recognize it as a distinct phoneme. And I have no idea about Italian.

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[turbid mantle]

Hi

[river lance]

hi

[eager eagle]

Hello, I tried to pronounce these words

mode mold
code cold
coder colder
feel
build

Am I pronouncing the dark L sound correctly?
(I'm aiming for American English accent, if that's relevant)

[vestal cloak]

Your L sounds perfect! :)

The "o" vowel in mode, code, coder is not quite right if you're aiming for a General American accent, though. It should be like /ɔw/, more open and further back with a /w/ glide at the end

[eager eagle]

thank you for the feedback 🙏
I guess I'm pronouncing the "o" sound in the British way

I tried saying those words again
Could you tell me if it sounds better?

[subtle moat]

I was uncertain of what to say, so I said that text from this guy here, hope you do not mind 😅. I have not previously endeavored to learn the pronunciation of the words, but I intend to commence this endeavor at a later time

[full patrol]

Does peo not come around in this channel anymore?

[river lance]

Hello

[full patrol]

Hello, here's a record of my English. Let me know if I improved or not.

[subtle moat]

such a beautiful voice, I comprehend everything thus I believe it is satisfactory

[full patrol]

Tyyy

[finite sapphire]

it's great

clear and smooth

[river lance]

Your pronunciation is great 👍, the accent, maybe "but, however " it's a bit off to me. Great job 👏

[full patrol]

How about the accent it self

[river lance]

If you're aiming to sound like a native, I think just the words you used where a but off, your pronunciation is great 👍 I hear little to no mistakes

I hear you mispronounced remember, reading "re" instead of the "ri" and about "that" the t would commonly be dropped, in an American accent

This is an incredibly tiny mistake 😢 your pronunciation is great

Can you send me a friend request to explain it in DM?

[subtle moat]

what is your opinion on mine? is it too brief for you to form a definitive opinion?

[river lance]

That's Lee's audio, you sound good 👍, you would usually go up at the last name 😉 "Erik LEE" since you did not stop to make this rise it sounds off, you said monitored as "mo" instead of "ma" for the American accent you are a bit off.

The rest is great just like @full patrol 👍 👌

[subtle moat]

Oh, thank you for correcting me 👍

[full patrol]

Tyyyy

[meager tartan]

anyone can help with smooth th sound? it sounds so weird when i say it, dont tell me just about putting ur tongue tip at behind ur upper teeth

[river lance]

hiii gon !

[river lance]

it is so clear and good !

hello everyoone i have some questions how can i chose which accent suits me i mean the American vs British is there any websiter that can detect or evaluate my accent and chose for me the most suitable accent so i will start improve myself in it and shadowing it and thanks in advance !

[vestal cloak]

Your tongue tip should be between your teeth to make the th sound, not behind them.

If you put your tongue behind your upper teeth, you will make an s/z or t/d sound instead

[meager tartan]

can you be more specific, and tell in more details

the tip between the teeth, meaning under them? and how far?

what lip shape, how open my mouth should be?

i have difficulty with both th anyway

[vestal cloak]

"Between your teeth" means basically to bite the tip of your tongue (very gently). The edge of your upper teeth should be touching the top of your tongue, and the edge of your lower teeth should be touching the bottom. Then try to make an s/z sound in that position.

Your tongue needs to be far out enough to be between your teeth, but you don't need to stick it completely out (although it may help if you exaggerate it while you get the hang of the sound)

Your mouth should only be open enough to put your tongue between your teeth. Your lips should just be in a relaxed, neutral position, not rounded

[meager tartan]

thanks for this, but when i try to make "s" sound in that position

it just dont quite sound right still

[bitter wolf]

personally i chose american cuz i feel like its easier to pronounce words and also easier to be understood

[river lance]

I would chose one that I believe I could stuck with

[vestal cloak]

That sounds better!

[vestal cloak]

Can you record yourself saying a few words with th?

[vestal cloak]

You sound pretty good! I just have two notes:

Make sure you pronounce the "t" in "customer". In the recording, it sounds like you're saying "cusomer".

Your "th" sounds a little too much like "d". Make sure your tongue is between your teeth, not behind them. (See what I wrote to Ranu.👆) It should be a fricative, not a stop; if pronounced correctly, you should be able to sustain the sound, like "thhhhhhis".

[subtle moat]

understood, thank you for rectifying my errors 🤗

[eager eagle]

Thank you!

[compact frost]

You’ve got an amazing prononciation and a soothing voice ! 👏👏

[lethal mist]

Please give me some feedbacks. Thank you Everyone!

I'm here to work. I miss you all, but I'm OK. You know I can look after myself so don't worry about me. Give my love to Jiang and tell her I've still got the jade frog she gave me. I carry it with me all the time. I'll write again soon. All my love, Mei.

[violet sluice]

I don't know how you sounded before, but your English sounds very good!

[neat jacinth]

hi

[sick marsh]

Hii!

[random cypress]

overall good. just try to not slur some of the words such as when
you said "i will write soon"

[heady plaza]

Hello

How are you

[river lance]

Welcome to the server!!!

[hearty mulch]

Hi

[river lance]

yes!

[river lance]

hmm yeah

[river lance]

Would you want to sound a certain way?

American, British, Australian?

[sick marsh]

Australian

[sick marsh]

Definetly Australian

[analog turtle]

Hello

[river lance]

Welcome to the server

[analog turtle]

Thanks

[crisp turtle]

Hallo

[rancid arch]

Hey guys

I need a native speaker to teach me how to pronounce the flapped T sound properly 🦉 I’m really struggling with it everytime I pronounce a word that contains flapped T I pronounce it as R

[vestal cloak]

Can you share a recording of how you pronounce it? Depending on which R sound you mean, you may be doing it correctly.

It should sound like the single R in the Spanish word "pero" (/ɾ/).

[rancid arch]

Water pretty better butter

[rancid arch]

Warer predy berrer burrer?

[finite sapphire]

as for me, the second version of water that you did was convincing

[vestal cloak]

It's sometimes explained as a "fast D", but that's not quite accurate. "Flapped T" is an alveolar tap /ɾ/, not a stop like /d/. Your pronunciation of "water" with "R" sounds perfect.

[rancid arch]

Thanks!

[iron narwhal]

water is water

better is very testy

in sometime we call a water name H2O

[barren atlas]

Learn english with Shadow Of the colossus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I81LuqMLYhU

[tender lodge]

hey guys

I'm struggling with pronunciation of words that end with " ly "

for an example : significantly , particularly , immediately

any help will be appreciated

[vagrant vale]

You say the word + ly(you pronounce it as lee)

Ex. sig" + "nif" + "i" + "kuhnt" + "lee".

[snow dagger]

hello! how do y'all pronounce mischiveous and immediately? Thank you!

[lament oriole]

I have a problem to diffrentiate in diffrent type of sounds like s, sh , c , also diffrent sound like b, v, w

[vagrant vale]

Mis-chi-ve-use and i -mee - dee- uht - lee.

[snow dagger]

Thank you!

[brisk fjord]

Would u mind, how to pronunciation can and cant?

In American accent

[lean slate]

Thanks.

[clear delta]

can is fast, can't is more emphasised

[twilit ivy]

Hello everyone, I am practising the sound /ɪ/ as in ‘bit’. I would be very grateful if someone could give me their feedback. As my language doesn't have this sound I've been doing it as /i:/ always and I'm struggling to make the sound.

||"This is a bit of a risk, but if you give it a try, it might fit perfectly."

Sit - Seat
Hit - Heat
Lift - Leaf
Ship - Sheep||

Thank you very much, I appreciate your help

[finite sapphire]

this is good enough

Heap hip, fit feat, knit neat, ill eel, bit beat

Some others that have the same pattern

("k" in knit is not pronounced at all)

Or feeling vs filling

[river lance]

you say it correctly to my ears

[twilit ivy]

Thank you both very much, I feel more at ease now.

[sinful canopy]

In my experience it doesnt matter if you cant get little sounds down, as long as other people can still understand what word you're saying you're fine

[river lance]

Keep the hard work up , the only next step to sound great is connected speech, you are getting good.

[pallid garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0rBmQjZ8nzQ?feature=share

[river lance]

hi folks

[pallid garnet]

Hey everyone, I can’t sleep. If you have any pronunciation questions, feel free to ask now for some help!

[halcyon furnace]

Hello, I have some knowledge of english mainly because of reading and Youtube, but I havent speak much. Can someone tell me if this is intelligible? Thank you

Here is the text:

Laborers were coming from the fields and laughing, so that was a scandal. I was sitting on our little swing, just resting among the trees in my parents' garden. On the other side of the fence the traffic never stopped

[static relic]

can anyone help me

I have trouble with this sentence "makes so much sense" when i read "much sense" I feel I'm not fluently like the way native speaker

because "ch" and "sense" i cant linking it together

[pallid garnet]

https://vocaroo.com I’ve seen you guys use this link to do voice recording so this is a lot easier than having to download Files. It’s a lot safer too

[pallid garnet]

https://youtu.be/YP7iwDbrSLs?si=YrdU-iAEvkQeZERX

@static relic just created a video for your and anyone else who wants to practice

[pallid garnet]

It’s clear enough, but there are some indifferences in the way that you’re pronouncing some other words. Here’s a video I put together for you.

https://youtube.com/shorts/RcSDjL_ItLQ?si=QCXC0UxYr2CcKdoL

[sage glen]

https://voca.ro/17t4RVjjAn2b

I understand that the transition can be hard

So take it easy and break it down slowly

[warm sinew]

Hello, can a teacher please help me with my pronunciation? I am trying to say this sentence: Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers. How many pickled peppers did Peter Piper pick?

🇨🇴

[sage glen]

You said it perfectly, what do you need help with exactly?

[warm sinew]

i need help pronouncing the sentence. i tried my best but it is not good enough

[sage glen]

Okay, go on and record yourself saying it

[sage glen]

I don't really understand

[warm sinew]

idk the sentence doesnt make sense but it is supposed to be a "tongue twister"

[sage glen]

How's that not good enough

https://voca.ro/1bOk9FJWXCl8

Here's my pronunciation

But yours is way better

[sage glen]

It's not much of a tongue twister since P is explosive

You don't need to use your tongue

[finite sapphire]

yeah it was perfect

I mean... not sure if perfect as in perfect 100%, but for me it definitely sounded perfect

You could as well be a native speaker pretending to not be a native lmao. This would be funny

[static relic]

how we can say green ?

gr sounds hard

[vestal cloak]

I said it as a joke in the other channel, but now I really am skeptical they're actually a beginner from Colombia ... Either that or they're using someone else's recording. That 100% just sounds like an American native speaker xD

[harsh oasis]

Estás estadounidense mi hermano

[finite sapphire]

yeah lol I feel this too

[worn sedge]

Hello My Name is Sameer. I'm new here. I'm from India. I've been learning English for a long-time. But I'm not fluent and naver to talk anyone yet. That's why I joined this server. If You are here to Improve your English. Just like me. Then we can talk. Talk. I'm talking about Discord voice call. If You don't mind. Let me know.
I really want to speak English. Or there any English practice Server.
That's it I wanted to say. Thanks for reading my message.

[pallid garnet]

Pay close attention to events they host. Also they have a lot of voice channels

[signal fiber]

you can talk with my anytime u want ill join you

[silk token]

https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2024/08/25/14bd4cedfc72a722.mp4

I think this fits very well here 🙂

[tulip remnant]

I love his videos 😂

"Nooo" "You don't see how?" 😂

[river lance]

I'm deleting them mate

[finite sapphire]

ah ok ok

[river lance]

Thanks though

ping me

if you find it

[tulip remnant]

I actually feel sorry for people learning English, Even my native brain can't understand why they're different

[finite sapphire]

i actually used to pronounce "pear" same as "peer" for years

till i found out

...last week

And i keep on finding new words that i used to mispronounce and it already somehow got ingrained within my mind lmao. Its funny

[little relic]

https://voca.ro/13HOlQahD9EU

someone can give me a feedback about my accent or pronunciation? pls

[simple phoenix]

Actually your pronunciation is good and you have lovely voice trust yourself 💯

[heavy wigeon]

ROFL ... this is so funny! ❤️

[celest torrent]

hi guys!

[celest torrent]

ohh i'm learning english...

[analog solstice]

ur pronounce is beautifulll

[prisma vault]

how to pronounce belch??

[sage glen]

You're good, keep going

7/10

But considering you've been doing it for only one year, it's impressive!

[sage glen]

https://voca.ro/1g4bwWhhhYlW

[tulip remnant]

How is it going?

[tawdry wing]

I am learning English and I see that you’re an native speaker.

When I hear you talk quickly, I don’t understand.

Because I must translate on my head and it becomes hard…

[silk token]

Well I can say, German is also not easy xD

[finite sapphire]

visualize stuff people say, do not translate stuff people say

if you put it in front of your eyes then you actually see it, kind of. That's what you do in your native language. You see what others tell you. If I told you "an elephant" in your native, you'd see an elephant in your head

[river lance]

Don't translate

Try to understand what words are being said, not the translation of them

[vast valley]

is that making a diffrence

?

[river lance]

I don't know, do you have the same problem as him?

[vast valley]

sometimes

[river lance]

Learn the meaning of words, use whatever way, then when listening try to get your listening better at understanding what words are being said

It's a bit dumb, but learning pronunciation of words is useful and listening to conversations is a good "example" of how people say the word, sometimes the pronunciation changes a lot. I have this diccionary that has multiple pronunciation options 🤔

https://www.merriam-webster.com/

[tulip remnant]

A lot of people have said that to me in the past, I try to slow down but because I'm not used to talking slowly, it just goes back to fast speech haha

[tulip remnant]

I agree, I'm not learning it but I'm familiar with the fact that words that begin with a capital at the beginning or in the middle can mean something different to the same word not capitalised

For example:

[bitter skiff]

How do you pronounce the letter "a" in words like sample or and?

[silk token]

Oh wow.. well that's a good example! We have a few.
We call it "Verwechslungsgefahr".

[river lance]

Depends what sentence they're in

The and can sometimes be an "n" alone "you n me" and the "sample" is the normal a for this symbol

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-open_front_unrounded_vowel

[gusty spindle]

🥲

[tulip remnant]

The British (England) accent is easier to read than that

[river lance]

Lol

/kəmˈpet̬.ə.t̬ɚ/

This is just a different symbol system

But you need to study these in detail to even use them

[pallid garnet]

worked hard on a video regarding connected speech hope this can be helpful for you guys https://youtu.be/9hg_81qKQ7c?si=_iGu35cmzv02poDS

[gusty spindle]

😯

to my country a lot of sound is different. Something make sense but other no

"competitor" is a good example 😂

[river lance]

I mean there are many words that are so stupid to pronounce

[sage glen]

Do you also drop the D in tendencies?

[pallid garnet]

That should be in that video if not, it’s in another one of my videos, but yes, it does happen when you take out the D

[pallid garnet]

Did you watch my video?

[sage glen]

Yes sir

You took out the D

I'll try to do the same

[pallid garnet]

Was it in the recent video I posted in this chat or was it in another one because I couldn’t seem to find that part but I know I talked about it and one of my videos

[sage glen]

Sec, i'll show you

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxAZIiKWErBJd_aZudP2IyoZJKHgLvzt9Y?si=D4ze3ACLm1NiwGJJ

@pallid garnet

[pallid garnet]

The close caption is wrong ( I have a tendency to pronounce every word.)

[sage glen]

I'm aware of that, we were talking about taking D out and merging N's

Like in sentence

[sage glen]

I understand

I'm trying to get that american accent

Thanks for your help

[peak shale]

How can i work on accent reduction?

[warm sinew]

first its important to known the distinctions between your language and english to pinpoint weaknesses.

For example, the japanese phoenetic system doesnt really have an "L" sound, so their L's tend to sound like R's

so as a japanese person id know to spend extra time mastering the sounds that my language doesnt really have

[warm sinew]

but what do i know-im just a beginner from colombia

[river lance]

You speak and write better English than most of the people I work with to be entirely frank…

That’s the thing with people who speak it as their first language though, we get lazy with pretty much everything related to the language unless it truly matters.

At least, that’s my experience. Maybe I just work with a bunch of troglodytes… who knows

[queen valley]

I think you're missing the joke here 😅 he's pretty clearly a native speaker

[queen valley]

Thank you, appreciate it!

[river lance]

Yeah I thought about it and that seems to be the case

Big prank

[twilit ivy]

Hello, I am practising the sound / ə / (Schwa). I would be very grateful if someone could give their feedback and tell me if I am doing it right.
||
About - Banana - Sofa - Support - Doctor - happen - Tomorrow - Family - Police - Person
/əˈbaʊt/ - /bəˈnænə/ - /ˈsoʊfə/ - /səˈpɔrt/ - /ˈdɑktər/ - /ˈhæpən/ - /təˈmɔroʊ/ - /ˈfæməli/ - /pəˈlis/ - /ˈpɜrsən/||
||"The photographer was about to take a picture of an elephant in the middle of the jungle."
/ðə fəˈtɑɡrəfər wəz əˈbaʊt tə teɪk ə ˈpɪkʧər əv ən ˈɛləfənt ɪn ðə ˈmɪdəl əv ðə ˈʤʌŋɡəl/||

Thank you very much. I really appreciate your help

[sage glen]

https://voca.ro/1ozCrnGsUbhD

[sage glen]

Butchered tomorrow, police and person

But did good with the phrase

Also you mispronounced schwa sound

Try again

[twilit ivy]

Thank you very much, I will try it again.

[river lance]

what a troll, u no beginner

[stable stirrup]

Yeah they aren't a beginner.
If they were then they wouldn't be using such large words in their explanations

[timid bane]

I was thinking the other day about how life just moves on, you know? One minute you're worried about something huge, and the next, it’s like it doesn’t even matter. We get so caught up in the small stuff, like missing a bus or spilling coffee, but then, out of nowhere, you realize those moments don’t really count in the grand scheme of things. It’s like, why stress over the little things when there’s a whole world out there, just waiting for you?

itd be really helpful

[toxic kiln]

Hey guys

I’m a beginner too

I have a really bad pronunciation problem

[warm sinew]

i am flattered, thank you

[stable stirrup]

How so?

[river lance]

could you tell me/us what accent you try to use when speaking, and what are the problems you have, why is it "a really bad" pronunciation?

[river lance]

I listened and you made a few mistakes, I noticed that the "r" sound is not pronounced fully at the words "world, matter" and I think the " you realize those moments don’t really count in the grand scheme of things" was split into two when you stopped, try to learn to hear the "r" and maybe practice it at the end of words.

I think it was really good over all, good job! @timid bane

[fallen citrus]

I try having a standard american accent

[rapid garnet]

while talking english i cannot get rid of the a i put at the end of words because i’m italian

like for a few times i can, but then i forget

ps: i’m in the us rn as an exchange student

[toxic kiln]

I’m indian . Here our professors mix up all types of accents and the indian accent is the worst of them

[timid bane]

thanks

ill work on it

[timid bane]

haha

that was on point tbh

i didnt actually realize that up until now

[pallid garnet]

Hey guys I did a video with. a friend of mine ( this should give you an idea on how pronunciation can be different between the two accents, American and British

https://youtu.be/Xti4b7eMXLo

https://youtu.be/Xti4b7eMXLo

I fixed it to have captions

[versed raptor]

I didn’t hear any mistakes.
Your spoken English is really easy to understand.
I don’t have an American accent, so I can’t comment on that part.
I didn’t need to ‘read along’ while you were speaking.

Usually, I just listen with my eyes closed first, then look at the written passage afterwards, and then find out if every word I thought I heard matches with the actual text. I didn’t mishear anything, so I’d say you’re doing pretty good. Well done. ✅

[versed raptor]

Btw, I didn’t notice whether you pronounced your ‘R’ sound in ‘world’ and ‘matter’ , because I wouldn’t either. So it just sounded normal to me. . , , 😄
I guess if you want a more American sound, you need to practice that rhotic R.

[river lance]

ˈwərld vs 'wɜːld = World

ˈmæ-t̬ər vs ˈmæt.ə = Matter

[finite sapphire]

you do have a distinct accent in your speech, I wouldn't say it's unclear, it's rather clear

this could be anything... it makes me feel the speaker is filipino? because of the "r"-like sound made at the end in the word "could"

that's definitely something I feel, like the "l" was replaced by "r" in could

you cut the -t at the end of "accent" which feels like something you'd borrow from american speakers

at the same time "better" felt more like some british influence

...and "appreciated" had a tap T sound, which feels like an american influence

I can't think of anything very, very obvious that you misshaped. I feel that's not perfectly clear yet, but I understand it easily

[minor vigil]

Hey guys, I am learning English pronunciation. I can read, understand and listen (sometimes with caption) English. How do you get started with pronunciation? Like how do I know if I am pronouncing the words correctly? Is there any reference? Do I trust google voice for the pronunciation?

[finite sapphire]

you use Cambridge dictionary and Collins dictionary

they have their websites

and every word they have

has an audio file attached

there is also a website called "forvo" but audios there are not verified and are submitted by random users. I enjoy it, though. It's free of charge just like the dictionaries

"forvo" has actually pretty much millions of audios, in many languages, so if you end up learning something except for english then it's got u covered as well. German or Spanish or whatever else

there is no guarantee that it has the word you want, though. There are many, but not every single one. Surely you will find something like "thorough", but less likely something like "surreptitious" or "eerie"

[river lance]

I would like to chat about changing some things about your pronunciation, but I need to know what accent you'd like to get closer to; Brittish, American...
P.D. I think you sound good, no "mistakes" but accent trades.

[river lance]

that is a great question, you would need to know what accent you'll be using when speaking, I can try to explain, but have in mind that you'll apply it to the accent you want to use...

[river lance]

it's too long

I'm so sorry

https://www.merriam-webster.com/

https://www.ipachart.com/

[minor vigil]

Really good explanation. Thanks for taking the time.

[river lance]

Oh is it distinct?

[finite sapphire]

lmao. Maybe I could've guessed it. I did not

Oh my, yes, it is indian accent indeed... I definitely imagined it to be worse, this one is so easy to understand lol

[sage glen]

I can easily tell you're indian, mind you

Your T's gave it away

Which you need to work on since you're aiming for american accent

Like when you said "appreciate it"

The T in appreciate should be a flap T cause it falls between two vowels

Also don't make a true T release in "it"

[river lance]

Ikr it sure is easy to understand Indian accents

[river lance]

Hahaha 😝

[river lance]

Oh I c I will practice

[river lance]

Tyy for the reference

[river lance]

Sooo what do you think then?

[sage glen]

Anytime!

[prime oasis]

Hi, some times people have hard time trying to understand me, especially native speakers.
Could you please help me to find out what are the biggest mistakes I do, so I can try to work on it?

[polar bronze]

Hie

[sage glen]

tongue muscles haven't developed yet

Read more and louder

[prime oasis]

Thank you, great idea, I would include reading aloud to my study. Should I correct something first, or just more practice?

[sage glen]

Yeah actually

Are you german?

[prime oasis]

Russian

[sage glen]

Oh

The TH sound could be better

Couldn't really hear half of what you said

But it's definitely one of the reasons people don't understand you

Speak louder or get a better mic i guess

[prime oasis]

You right, I have same problem in native language too, my voice isn't loud one

[sage glen]

I reckon you don't speak much do you?

[prime oasis]

Hah, yea, indeed... Learnt English reading books, and only few years ago started actually speak it. Also being introvert and programmer doesn't help much.

[sage glen]

No it does not, so what you need to do is shadowing

Watch youtube videos of English or American people

And repeat sentences after them

That's what i did

And worked pretty well

[sand glacier]

check my pronunciation

[prime oasis]

Thank you!

[sage glen]

You speak xenomorphian?

[sage glen]

Anytime!

[sand glacier]

yes wanna hear more?

[sage glen]

As long as you keep it pg

[coarse plover]

https://xero.gg/player/Ayai

[vestal cloak]

I agree with Badass that the first thing I'd suggest is to practice a listening and repeating after native speakers.

I wouldn't say how loud you are is really a big issue, but rather that there are several sounds where you have a heavy accent, such as R, W, H, and TH, and together that makes it hard to understand the words. So my advice for now would be to just practice the individual sounds more (look up videos teaching pronunciation, eg. on Youtube) and listen and repeat a lot.

[prime oasis]

Wow, thank you! I know I have issues with L, R, and TH, but didn't notice anything about w and h when I was listening myself in a record.

[finite sapphire]

I admit, it is hard to get

[finite sapphire]

if I focus, I can understand like up to 98% of the words you said, but I really have to be very careful and concentrate

just like Schuyler said, R, W, H, and TH really all feel odd

You should definitely practice more, and try to imitate native accents, doesn't matter which one exactly. Listening more will make you more aware of what stuff is really pronounced like

you're on a good path I think, if you try to improve. It's not like it's totally unintelligible, it's more like, the accent is so heavy and odd that it is difficult to comprehend

@prime oasis and I should add that it's not a problem that your native is Russian. You can overcome this anyway. My native is Polish, so am slavic as well, and I understand the struggle here. Practice makes perfect

[prime oasis]

Thank you, I would try to work on it and record another audio after some time. The only question I still have about w and h, I could guess that I pronounce w like v, is it the case? and could you give me example of what's wrong with H?

[muted heath]

You pronounce your name very well.

[thorny remnant]

How can I send a record for my pronunciation here ?

[wheat crane]

Hi

Can me learning inggris?

[sage glen]

https://vocaroo.com/

[thorny remnant]

Could you please tell me how did you sent this record , this app doesn't support voice messages?

[thorny remnant]

there's no other way ?

[velvet timber]

Is supporting Ukraine worth risking a China-Russia alliance against us?

The media says China's the threat, but our actions say Russia. What's the real story?

Can't help but feel like we're strengthening our adversaries by dividing our focus.

[distant steeple]

make sure you're on mobile and make sure it's updated, there should be a microphone logo next to the input bar

[sacred copper]

It does on the mobile app.

[river lance]

https://youtu.be/yKTLXUh9bQM?si=h27YNn1OmpUTqEjU

[clear seal]

can someone help me how to distinguish the sound "d" (for example water) from the sound "d" ( f.e direct) ?

is there anyway to use my tongue to differentiate them, Im a bit struggling with this

[thorny remnant]

No space on phone for the app

[sage glen]

Yes there is

See the T in water we call a flap D or T

This is where your tongue touches the alveolar ridge

Just a little tap and bring it back down as quick as possible

While in direct you'll most likely put your tongue on or just above the teeth

[knotty finch]

do british literally pronounce it wo er?

[clear seal]

Thanks

[sage glen]

There're many different accents in the UK (Scottish, Welsh, Cockney + 37 more accents/dialects that i don't know much about). Some put more emphasis on the T sound and neglect the R /ˈwɔːtə/
others may say it with a glottal stop T /ˈwɔːʔə/

[sage glen]

Anytime!

[distant steeple]

the accent changes every 20 minutes

youll tend to notice the more well spoken brits put more pronunciation on their t in words like water

[vestal cloak]

The English H sound is further back and much "weaker" than the Х sound in Russian. The friction should be minimal. It's more or less just the sound of exhaling, like a very small sigh, or like beginning the following vowel as a whisper before "switching on" your full voice.

[prime oasis]

I listened again and now see what you mean. Thanks.

[jade helm]

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[knotty finch]

i see.. thanks bro

[pallid garnet]

here are some helpful videos you guys can practice to imitate and shadow ( https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtTdG7qgO-r8VwEFLpCyII3pDLa0gqhtN )

[indigo abyss]

i cant send voice recording why?

[pine geode]

Hope you prepare for IELTS exam and this server helps for all english learning

[subtle bobcat]

when do you say "eether" and when "eyether"?

[pallid garnet]

they both mean the same

[subtle bobcat]

Ah wow, thanks. i thought you use each in different contexts

[silver trellis]

When do I use affect or effect

[granite kayak]

Affect is a verb which means "to act or change on someone or somethng" example: The change will affect everyone.
Effect is a noun which means " to indicate the result of a change" Example: My new friend is bound to effect positive changes in the club.

[silver trellis]

Tyyy

makes sense

[granite kayak]

no problem

[sage glen]

The first is an unreleased T, like in button. The second T is a flap

I don't know which one to use

I'm skeptical one of them is wrong

[pallid garnet]

hey guys new pronunciation video I just released ( https://youtu.be/QWl2SYS85aw ) I would love your feedback. I know some have requested vocab videos ( I would like more details as to what sepcfiicly you guys want me to put out. )

[pallid garnet]

I can't understand the word you are trying to say

[sage glen]

Putting in