#🗒|pronunciation

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muted heath
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I'm convinced. Can't pick an underlying accent.

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Unless it's Polish or eastern European, but the thing is the American accent is made of those nations accents.

pliant aurora
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@muted heathhttps://voca.ro/1gMfU7qmNUKe

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speaking my mother tongue here, swedish

muted heath
pliant aurora
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are u swedish?

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or just from minnesota? lol

muted heath
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2nd

pliant aurora
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ah okay

muted heath
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So you know what i mean

finite sapphire
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although ok maybe a bit

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but if you listen to my mp3 from the past that i posted here, you'd notice the real polish accent lol

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i honestly should try again and post something again, will think about this...

muted heath
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I won't find your clip so far back.

My accent is made of: (polish, irish by parents)+(scandanavian by birth region)+(us by early education)+(Australian/English by primary secondary schooling+ longest residential)

finite sapphire
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where does the polish part of your accent come from, like were your ancestors polish

muted heath
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Mother

finite sapphire
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ok my bad, you probably meant that both irish and polish were your parents

muted heath
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Grandparents

finite sapphire
finite sapphire
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h ttps://discord.com/channels/801609515391778826/852828327231750154/1138865244404461608

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the same thing

finite sapphire
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ah

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very bad?

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tbh now that i listened to it again, am unclear sometimes, at least two times

muted heath
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Yes, you have the same short of underlying sound as negative10. But i often think Polish and swedish are closely related sound wise, not necessarily language wise ofc. You have the strong sound of North Eastern Europe,

finite sapphire
muted heath
finite sapphire
muted heath
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All is as it was. Time has resumed as normal.

finite sapphire
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To be honest I never really practised my accent, I am trying to make this clear based on what I heard in podcasts that I have been listening to for years now

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Like this is not the most visible accent I had I think... when I hear other polish natives speaking english, they sound different than me, not very, but there is a difference in thickness lol

pliant aurora
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haha

finite sapphire
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idk

pliant aurora
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not sure what sounds alike haha

finite sapphire
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wait whats your native

pliant aurora
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swedish

finite sapphire
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ah yeah, i see

pliant aurora
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swedes dont have that slavic nasality

finite sapphire
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were I so nasal to you

pliant aurora
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and ur recording sounds distinctly slavic

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not super nasal

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but slavic for sure

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it sounds good but clearly slavic

muted heath
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I think everyone has the sound of their own voice. Added to this is how they pronounce letters and syllables in their own language and local accent. When we try to learn a new language be that English, Japanese, Polish, Chinese, Spanish, we attempt out best to pronounce the way the native speakers do. But until we learn to pronounce each word, we still can be identified as not native. If the learned language has a small population, then the pronunciation differences in the population will be small and it will potentially be easier to sound native quicker. With a language with a large population, the difference will be greater and more varied, so it will be harder to lock in on a consistent set of pronunciation (the accent).

pliant aurora
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i think you're making it more complicated than it needs to be

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there's a term for it, vowel sounds

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an accent is just a set of vowel sounds consistent to a majority of speakers in a specific region, that's it

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if you record their voices and run it through speech analysis software

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soimethingl ike praat

muted heath
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I talk too much 🙅‍♀️

pliant aurora
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u will see their frequency is almost identical regardless if it's a woman or a man

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deep voice or not

finite sapphire
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why vowel tho, sometimes consonants also differ, like british "city" vs american "city" which sounds almost like "cidy"

pliant aurora
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not vowel, vowel sound

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it's different

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literally just frequency

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i also dont agree with big population = more accents

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sweden has more distinct accents than the US for sure

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not only more i nquantity, but more DISTINCT as well

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if you go on twitch and watch a random american gamer, you won't be able to accurately guess where he's from

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even if you are american

muted heath
pliant aurora
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an isnane amount of young americans have teh exact same accent even if they live in different states

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and i can prove this, when i posted my voice on askanamerican on reddit

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everyone said i sound like their neighbour

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some lived in texas, some lived in new york, some in california

finite sapphire
muted heath
finite sapphire
# pliant aurora not super nasal

I kinda wondered a bit what you meant by that nasality. And honestly, the more I think about this, the more I get you, cuz in my recordings this is not the highest nasality yet, but if I recall how my friends sound like in english, polish natives, they have higher nasality than me, by far, and yeah true

pliant aurora
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@finite sapphireyeah haha, just imitate what you think a russian sounds like

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and you will see what i mean

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seems it's only common in polish tho

finite sapphire
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oh yeah

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polish preserved a lot from old slavic

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even the grammar polish has is more "slavic" than russian, we still stick to 7 cases, while russians switched to 6

muted heath
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Nice chatting @finite sapphire @pliant aurora , but it's 3am so 🛏️👨‍🦯 for me

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See ya later

finite sapphire
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good night

sonic creek
muted heath
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It's a fine accent for speaking English. I can't place it, but that's not important. Could say maybe it sounds Canadian. Def not uk, aus, nz. As for sounding like a foreigner, ig that depends on what country, state, town you are in.... Pretty much 99% of the world, and that applies to everyone. Good work

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Your English is very good also.

pliant aurora
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I think you sound like ur from NY or new jersey @river lance

also its weird, where are people saying this? do you live in the US?

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some minor things stand out as... not sounding completely native

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but def very very close

full patrol
clear mason
full patrol
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they don't sound that bad when i say them but i feel like im doing smt wrong

full patrol
clear mason
muted heath
muted heath
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That man said, that that that that that man had written was wrong.

woven lotus
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guys, what do ya’ll think abt the singaporean accent, i mean have ya’ll heard it b4, it’s pretty flat

woven lotus
# full patrol Any tips on improving my th sound?

keep saying “the” repeatedly for practice. Either that or when u need to say a word w the Th sound, curve your toungue and overlap your teeth. Act no need to curve, just put your toungue at the bottom of your front teeth. Hope this helpes ;)

full patrol
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its not very heavy

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but it was obv she was a foreigner

muted heath
woven lotus
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I too from sg!

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It’s pretty flat right

muted heath
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Does it not depend on ethnicity?

woven lotus
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The earth isn’t even flat Bruh

full patrol
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its a donut

woven lotus
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Do u take geography?

meager tartan
meager tartan
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lol

full patrol
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@sacred badger

sacred badger
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Ty 4 the ping

full patrol
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Anytime mate

opaque bay
gloomy pier
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Hi, how sound the word di-ver-sity. The di sound as i or e

muted heath
muted heath
# opaque bay

You have a very smooth sounding British accent, and i would have no clue that you came from any other part of the world based only on your voice. You bring up images of the actor Hugh Grant and his type of voice.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXEF7RjDyow&pp=ygUKSHVnaCBncmFudA%3D%3D

Hugh Grant tells Stephen about the many jobs he worked before pursuing a career in acting, including stints as an advertising copywriter and a bathroom cleaner. Stick around for more with Hugh Grant and watch his latest film, “Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves,” when it opens in theaters this Friday.

#Colbert #DnDmovie #HughGrant


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▶ Play video
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Also sorry of reminiscent of that British voice being used in a moderated way in Australia. It has a little bit of north east Australian accent on it (feeling 5%)

mild veldt
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Hlo

opaque bay
muted heath
opaque bay
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I see

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Where are you from if I may ask?

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@muted heath

muted heath
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Australia@opaque bay

unborn drum
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also my microphone's not really good so pls bear with that weird noises

unborn drum
odd helm
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indo?

fallen creek
# unborn drum also, can u guys guess my nationality from my accent.

As a non-native speaker who is not very knowledgeable I'd say your pronunciation is very good, I'd say you're definitely near-native. If you keep practicing I think people may start thinking you are actually native. The only thing that I noticed is that the overall flow of the audio is kinda off (there are pauses in between thoughts and sometimes within thoughts) [All right,,well,,its been a while since ive been learning English as my,,second language] I think that if you improve your flow even if it costs speed, you will sound more natural.

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native speakers may be able to spot things that I didnt though. Either way, Id say you are very near-native

sacred badger
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Wording is also very important

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How you describe things can indicate that this person is actually really good

muted heath
fallen creek
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Here is my latest recording btw, any feedback would be greatly appreciated pepepray

unborn drum
fallen creek
unborn drum
unborn drum
sacred badger
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Where r u from

fallen creek
sacred badger
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Ooh south America was gonna be my 2nd guess

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Was gonna say spain

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Your accent/pronunciation is not something to be really heavily critiqued

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However

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You seem to repeat yourself a lot

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My pronunciation, the way i speak English, etc

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You've been dwelling on that point for far too long,

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I would just say, this is a recording to compare my pronunciation with the previous one, this is my current pronunciation, my goal by doing all of this is to improve, your freedback would be appreciated.

fallen creek
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now that I think about it, I do that in my native language too lmao

sacred badger
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I do that too

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But i learned to stop repeating myself

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I only repeat a point if it wasn't understood the first time, the move on

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Dwelling on a single part can bore the listener and interrupt their focus

The flow of listening to your thoughts

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Its hard to keep up with someone who's not sharing his thoughts very smoothly, as in a very clean sequence.

fallen creek
unborn drum
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@sacred badger are you a native English speaker?

sacred badger
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Yeah, that is true

unborn drum
# unborn drum Hello There,

What's your thoughts on my audio..
I'm just curious coz u sound like a very knowledgeable person.. about these language stuff

sacred badger
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Overall listening to u wouldn't be a problem to me

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My only advice is for you to speak slower so that you feel more in control of what you're saying

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If you pause a lot it means that you're either talking too fast, or you don't have enough vocabulary to include in your speech.

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Just try to synchronize both your thoughts and speech

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Too much water and it'll spill, too little water and it won't be enough

unborn drum
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Not enough vocabulary

unborn drum
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I'll keep that in mind dude

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Thankyou so much..

sacred badger
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Np

finite sapphire
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lol

fallen creek
# opaque bay

If I just listened to this without any other context I could never tell you're non-native. Are you even non-native to begin with? sounds excellent

unborn drum
# opaque bay

Is it just me. Or is the British accent really hard to understand ?
Man u sound like a British guy.. I don't really know why I have a hard time understanding British English.

fallen creek
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When it comes to improving your pronunciation is shadowing really the best method out there?

finite sapphire
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it works

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depending on the person of course, it is certainly the best to build the flow of thoughts and speech and thinking in the target language

muted heath
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Not exactly shadowing, but pretty much the same. Find your target voice, play a sentence, say it, repeat until your happy, move into next sentence.

Shadowing requires a lot of thinking and only gives one chance with hard words as you are moving through continuous speech.

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@fallen creek

muted heath
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G'day

unborn drum
muted heath
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So where ARE you from then @unborn drum

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As your name says... Let them know... cat_Sip

unborn drum
muted heath
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Because we all live next door?

unborn drum
muted heath
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Tell me and delete

unborn drum
muted heath
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Del

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Ete

unborn drum
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No lol..

muted heath
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First steps into fame and fortune

unborn drum
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Where are you from ?
Are u a native?

unborn drum
muted heath
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Aus

muted heath
# unborn drum Wdym ?

Now that you are not anonymous anymore, you can travel the world and be rich and famous

unborn drum
muted heath
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I'm also kidding, but i didn't know where you were from

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🧜‍♀️pepe_nocomment

unborn drum
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Since you are a native. Any tips on how to improve English skills?

muted heath
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Just use it, and keep reading about the difficult stuff

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Tip for me also, learning other languages

unborn drum
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Apart from reading, writing, speaking and shadowing

muted heath
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My biggest problem with language is vocabulary. I don't generally know enough words to join in any random conversation. So improving vocabulary is always #1, .. i swear by flash cards.

unborn drum
muted heath
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I know i have very low Japanese vocabulary. <600 words. I cannot even join in a hello how are you conversation.

I can see that you have a very good vocabulary in English, but if you join in specialty conversations like biological engineering, it even computer science, the terminology may be absent. Similarly if you are not a cook at home, and decide to talk about cake baking, some of the tools and equipment may be missing from your head. At this point, i suppose you converse, and hard words you just ask to be explained, and hopefully expand memory and knowledge that way.

full patrol
unborn drum
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Not gonna lie, there was this one time. I was talking with someone and she just started talking about cooking stuff.
And I was like interesting. well I don't know shit about cooking. So I just turned the topic by saying "well I tried cooking once and i almost ended by burning my hands".

full patrol
full patrol
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Don't sweat it jean

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keep doing what you're doing

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@muted heath silly little question, but am I fluent or advanced? I'm really split on which role I should pick. You've heard me before, so I figured you're the right person to ask

muted heath
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I wasn't paying attention to how good you were and i wasn't trying to assess you, so i can't rightly say, at this moment

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@full patrol

unborn drum
muted heath
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Idk about myself, fluent or native 🙅‍♀️

full patrol
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lols

muted heath
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pats for all

muted heath
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Speak and be fluent

full patrol
unborn drum
full patrol
unborn drum
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So then people won't expect much from me.. since I have a beginner tag

full patrol
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lmao

unborn drum
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Where u from dude @full patrol ?

full patrol
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born in jordan

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living in egypt

unborn drum
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Wow

unborn drum
muted heath
full patrol
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Also you said one mistake almost made you change your mind?

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what are you referring to exactly?

unborn drum
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Send a recording

full patrol
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i sent like 4 before

unborn drum
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Talk random stuff

full patrol
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first one was kinda of a mess

unborn drum
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No do it now

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Fresh

full patrol
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my head hurts like a bitch rn so no chance sadly

unborn drum
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Ohh ok

full patrol
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you can check out my old records yk

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last one was meh

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bunch of minor mistakes

muted heath
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Alright @unborn drum @full patrol an assessment question, but I'll ask @unborn drum To answer first.

full patrol
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Alrighty

muted heath
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Here goes

muted heath
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There are a pile of note books in the table. They belong to the 5 people standing in the room. All 5 people have the same job. They are each an attorney general in the state they come from. How do i write the possessive form for the people and the note books using the title?

full patrol
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go on jean

muted heath
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Edited

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The last line

full patrol
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@unborn drum you here?

unborn drum
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Wait wait wait

muted heath
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Dm me @full patrol now

full patrol
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okay

unborn drum
muted heath
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Dm me @unborn drum

unborn drum
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Ok

unborn drum
muted heath
unborn drum
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It's kinda weird for me.. although I can speak a little bit of English.. but I HAVE never learnt any grammar..

sacred badger
unborn drum
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Dude I'm bad at this

muted heath
sacred badger
unborn drum
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Was that correct ?

unborn drum
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Adding "s"

muted heath
sacred badger
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Or a grammar question

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Either way i suck at both

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😅

muted heath
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Not a puzzle, just trying to get a grammatical answer without using the answer to ask it.

sacred badger
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Im gonna be honest, i don't really understand it

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Can u explain it differently ?

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Your question

muted heath
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What is the plural possesive form for a bunch of people who have the title attorney general?

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@sacred badger

sacred badger
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Ohh

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Where do i answer that ? In dms

muted heath
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Dm will let others try

arctic inlet
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@muted heath may I dm you one of my recordings?

muted heath
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Sure

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@arctic inlet

sacred badger
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Peo should get the english helper role

arctic inlet
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True lol

finite sapphire
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too humble for it

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just like me

full patrol
tiny falcon
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Could someone judge my accent please? I want to speak smother and not-so stoic like this one too 😅 Because I normally speak like this in real life

tame anchor
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How do I improve my British accent.

ebon fossil
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by talking with a british

feral olive
cloud cedar
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Hey guys by any chance is there anyone who is studying computer science or graduate

tiny falcon
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Is it bad? I think it's Thai accent since I'm Thai

muted heath
full patrol
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Yo peo if you had to guess what accent does eminem have?

muted heath
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You are raising the inflection of the ending of each noun (/), or at every pause in your sentences. This is giving you a rhythmic sound that is not normal in native accents. Try and limit the up inflection to only very important words in the sentence. Try and keep a steady (--) mid tone otherwise.

muted heath
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@full patrol

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🙅‍♀️

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I don't listen to his voice. Just a song or two... Let me see

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Sounds east Coast, perhaps a little south but not too far down.

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Sort of like Will Smith

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I still feel like it's new york and down.

full patrol
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Lol

muted heath
full patrol
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Would it be hard getting that accent

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?

muted heath
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My friend had a similar accent. I could only ever do it basically when he was speaking with me. It never stuck in my mind.

full patrol
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I'll try my best

muted heath
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I want trying to get it permanently. I suppose if you listen to enough of it you will get it. The are probably a few words that will trigger the accent for you, if you can pick up what they are, that gives the general sound.

full patrol
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Well *

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Stupid phone

muted heath
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I'm just listening now to see if there is something i can pick out

full patrol
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He tends to like skip the rs

muted heath
full patrol
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I can barely see what I'm typing

full patrol
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Like somethin'

muted heath
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Also very Sylvester Stallone, same accent

full patrol
muted heath
full patrol
muted heath
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May i ask your native language?

full patrol
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Arabic

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Half Egyptian half jordanian

muted heath
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I feel i may have heard your voice. Did you post s recording here?

full patrol
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Multiple times

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Like 4 maybe

muted heath
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My memory is poor, but i was sure i had

full patrol
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Gonna send smt new tmrw with some type of accent that i can do

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I really have no idea what accent is it

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Lol

full patrol
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To be fair though that first record was a mess

full patrol
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You'll hear it tomorrow

full patrol
muted heath
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Goody

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(to the hear it tomorrow)

full patrol
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Phone is about to die

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Catch you later

muted heath
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Bye

river lance
river lance
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9/10. Imitate was mispronounced.

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Really good. I'd say instead of I would say is more used I think. 9/10

tiny falcon
vestal hull
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Hi 👋

full patrol
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This sums it up

full patrol
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Also he fucked up a bunch of words 💀

river lance
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Thx for clearing things out

full patrol
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Any time

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You'll hear me today

river lance
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Send me an audio of yours

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Ok

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Read my mind

full patrol
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I have like 4 old ones here

river lance
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I speak bad English but try my best

full patrol
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First one was a mess second one was alright third was meh last one was alright

river lance
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I'll send mine tomorrow coz it's 11.15pm for me

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I'll tag ya if find your nick

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Stay tuned 😉 😎

full patrol
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Oki

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@river lance

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That was the last one

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A bit old

river lance
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U the same?

full patrol
river lance
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XD

full patrol
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Huh

river lance
full patrol
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Bryan what are you trying to say

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That's my record

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You wanted to hear it

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Tell me what you think

river lance
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...

full patrol
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💀

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Anyway

full patrol
river lance
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I just bought a pack

full patrol
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Cool ig

river lance
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But I'm laughing coz I heard it already

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And I even remembered the time

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1.17

full patrol
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?

river lance
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So it was like, ight

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Not really

full patrol
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Ight huh

river lance
full patrol
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Cool ig

river lance
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Hehe I like emotions here

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Are weeby

full patrol
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Let's just say I'm gonna take what you just said with a massive grain of salt

river lance
full patrol
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Obviously you don't have a great ear for accents so yeah

river lance
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Huh?

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U wanna get the US?

full patrol
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I don't wanna go to the us

river lance
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Nope, wanna get an American axent?

full patrol
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Yeah

river lance
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Ight, standard?

full patrol
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As in?

river lance
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So I could have a fair pick on ya audio

river lance
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Just centered

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No weird pronunciation accepted

full patrol
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In those records I was just speaking but atm I'm trying to get the new York accent

river lance
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Okok

full patrol
river lance
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Really?

full patrol
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For the record he's a complete random I found on reddit

full patrol
river lance
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I heard a sound off

full patrol
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Twatter

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How did you not catch that

river lance
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But was good 👍

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I didn't know what he was aiming so... I based on comprehend

full patrol
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Here Bryan read this

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The guy is using like 5 accents at once 😭

full patrol
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There is a lot of stuff that I gotta fix tho

river lance
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I think I sound pretty bad if we draw a comparison

full patrol
river lance
river lance
full patrol
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Also peo will definitely be here to judge it

river lance
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Who

full patrol
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She's awesome

river lance
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Native?

full patrol
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No but I think she lived in a English speaking country

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Dw she's really good

river lance
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How long?

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coffee US?

full patrol
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Ask her when she gets on

river lance
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Ight

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🥲

full patrol
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Why the long face tiger

river lance
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This is cringe 😬

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That's me speaking as casually as possible

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Good way to tell I can't pronounce Teacher WinkShhh

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I could nitpick many things on that video myself

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Wdu think?

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Not so unbearable

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I never liked my own videos, unscripted work of shit

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I'd like to make some actual good videos, but I'm just not on the content creation boat, need some structure.

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@full patrol

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I promise, new content will be put up there

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Not so shitty

full patrol
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back

full patrol
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make sure to send smt when peo is on

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she'll tell you what u have to work on exactly

river lance
river lance
full patrol
river lance
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Let's agree to disagree

river lance
full patrol
muted heath
muted heath
full patrol
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I'm quite confused ngl

muted heath
full patrol
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Oh I might not send anything today

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I have some unattended business

river lance
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That video is trash

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what do u think? XD

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I want to be nice to listen to only

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Right pronunciation also

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I aim for a south semi-centered US accent

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I actually love and try to get other users into phonetics

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LOL

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I am so flattered

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Send your voice man/mam'

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¿?

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ight

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Pronunciation study

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wish

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I'm a enthusiast only

craggy bluff
river lance
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Meaning?

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Nice ?

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XD

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I can't say I'm where I wanna be though

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I say 80% there

craggy bluff
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every words you have said in that recording are clear

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you sound like a native

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your accent is my goal

river lance
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I feel so flattered

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U guys can do better, I'm sure

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I do some pronunciation sessions on the weekend

craggy bluff
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I'm sure I will have a harder time perfecting my pronunciating since I am asian

river lance
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What's your L1?

craggy bluff
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whats that

river lance
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First Language

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L2= Second language

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or Language 2

craggy bluff
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Vietnamese

river lance
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WOW

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cool

craggy bluff
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why do you seem surprised

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lol

river lance
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is a beautiful Language

craggy bluff
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thanks

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based on your bio I guess you are Spanish

river lance
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YES MEXICAN

craggy bluff
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viva mexico woo hoo

river lance
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VIVA

full patrol
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my boy

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you were so wrong when you said i sounded better

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you sound phenomenal if anything

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I'm happy if I sound anything like you 😭

full patrol
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@muted heath do i sound even remotely close 😭

river lance
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u can send a new one

river lance
full patrol
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you sound amazing

river lance
full patrol
river lance
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I appreciate it

full patrol
river lance
full patrol
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when i try to record smt i get so fucking nervous its unreal

full patrol
river lance
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joking

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I am gay that's why I sound calm

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well, not quite

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I'm homosexual

river lance
full patrol
river lance
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...

full patrol
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when you're calm you can think of shit way more easily

river lance
river lance
full patrol
full patrol
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i talk abit fast so when im abit more relaxed or "Calm" i pronounce shit abit wrong

river lance
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U can still speak fast, just in the right way

full patrol
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mmmmkay might record a lil smt off the top of my head

river lance
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It's my passion, listening to Natives Speakers of English speak so smoothly and still be comprehensible it's just orgasmic

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I think once you're able to take that and apply it to your speech u can be sure that most stuff u say WILL be comprehensibe

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Coz', if a Native said it that way u can copy and do so too

full patrol
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okay hold on a min

river lance
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ight

muted heath
# river lance ight

You got a fine speaking voice there. English is great. I'm labeling accents from people I've met in the past, and who come into mind when i hear an accent. So I'm going to say you have a Kentucky accent. If I'm wrong, it's been a long time since i ever heard that voice, but it's American. Be happy. (Unless you are trying to sound british that is). Your second clip sort of reminded me of Seinfeld.

river lance
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JAJAJJAJJA, look at the goff ah emoji I just sent

river lance
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I once talked to a girl from Kentucky and man!, I had an Instant crush, so nice

finite sapphire
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is kentucky chicken

river lance
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yes

finite sapphire
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nice

finite sapphire
full patrol
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@muted heath @river lance

river lance
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I fell a simp for her

muted heath
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I think while you want the eminem new york accent, you probably really need to lose the eminem gangsta character attitude wording, as it hiding what could be a good ny sound. I think slowing down as you did, did not sound all that convincing. A little staged. Sorry for the review. blossom

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Think "Matthew" Eminem

full patrol
full patrol
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with a normal accent

river lance
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I speak Spanish

muted heath
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Yes, the comedian and his long running show.

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Jerry Seinfeld

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Yiutube it

full patrol
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?

river lance
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I think we could use a couple of phonemes that will get u soundin better

river lance
full patrol
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?

river lance
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lemme think

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XD

river lance
full patrol
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nah

river lance
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I hear the "o's"

full patrol
finite sapphire
full patrol
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For the record i never said i sounded like a native or "spectacular" ik i don't sound that amazing

river lance
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are not pronounced like I'd pronounce em

full patrol
full patrol
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sarcasm

muted heath
# river lance U say I sound guffy?

I just dug up a Seinfeld on ytube, and after listening to a minute or so, just went back and listened to lol clip. You have a que Kentucky voice that sounded nothing like Seinfeld. But then when you got to the but about the other guy and his bad pronunciation, that really went seinfeld... To the point i quickly went back and matched... I guess it's just when you get excited in your story, that's the Seinfeld expression.

river lance
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We have "or" having a shwua sound

full patrol
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@muted heath

river lance
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u did not used that phoneme

full patrol
river lance
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and Exactly was said with E

river lance
finite sapphire
full patrol
finite sapphire
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no

river lance
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Or a joke

finite sapphire
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am interrogating, like the way you would interrogate a murderer

river lance
river lance
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Sorry

finite sapphire
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dont worry we will not put you on trial

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(yet)

river lance
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I thought of "didn't but did something else"

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it is more like igzaklee

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a for as in cat

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ae

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it's a bit weird

full patrol
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google is wilding

river lance
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yes sir

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just like that

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that "t" right there could be droped

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that's what I mean as passion

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Nope XD LOL

full patrol
river lance
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I mean it's so good but is a small detail

river lance
full patrol
river lance
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Ure just havin the same thoughts as me

full patrol
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there is so many times where i go like what is he even talking about

river lance
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so I'm half way here

full patrol
river lance
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srry

river lance
full patrol
river lance
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yes

full patrol
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hm

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bro

muted heath
# full patrol ?

Maybe it's not Eminem I'm hearing. I think it's just you. With that in mind, I've reimagined your image, but i guess it's just a little thin on content and you are trying to make up works and it's obvious that you are just padding time. This is probably why you are sounding like you are struggling to sound like you genuinely are conversing... But maybe try giving a one minute speech on a topic you know a lot about, as if you had to give a lecture and the lecture was for a well paid business job... Marketing manager ...

My life long belief has always been, you can be anything (make anyone Believe you are something) as long as you believe you belong there. Your voice will change as you imagine different situations you are in. So try the marketing manager job application lecture. See what happens... cat_Sip

river lance
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OMG

river lance
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To my ear, get these 2 or 3 phonenemes

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and u good to go

muted heath
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Egg sac ly. 🥚

full patrol
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come to think of it

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it does sound like that

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dropping the t was a mistake

muted heath
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I say. .. x saktly

river lance
muted heath
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That's totally fine

full patrol
full patrol
full patrol
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@muted heath

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im gonna go in 5 min

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contribute was pronounced WRONG

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Electricity is out but I can chat on phone

muted heath
# full patrol contribute was pronounced WRONG

Ok. That was much better. A more natural message without the overly exaggerated subcultural overlay (until the end when it went back into that). But with the main message, it is clear that your native accent is very strong and i think your 'cool' voice overlay is potentially giving you a false confidence that you have a strong American accent. I think you have put in place verbal mannerisms to be 'slay', but when this is stripped away and you have a normal conversation, one can now see that you have missed placing as strong an accent on your pronunciation as you would have hoped for.

I guess i would think that what most people want when they say they want a particular accent, is an ability to fit in and not be noticed as being a foreigner in a new land. The biggest benefit of knowing how to speak well with a foreign language is the ability to pull in better job opportunities for more money and a better lifestyle (my view ofc). Don't waste time with the subculture voice. Focus on getting a regular or professional vernacular and get that New York accent applied to your voice. It will be much easier to hear yourself and your progress. Maybe listen to news on https://edition.cnn.com/

CNN

View the latest news and breaking news today for U.S., world, weather, entertainment, politics and health at CNN.com.

river lance
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: 0

pallid garnet
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You have minor pronunciation issues and some of your words are mumbled together but overall it is okay. ( pay attention to @muted heath ‘s feedback as I am not able to go in to detail like that. ( kudos to you Peo)

full patrol
full patrol
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can't do nothing about it ig

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ain't that a kick in the head

full patrol
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how much work do i have to do

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from what i just read i have a WHOLE LOTTA work to do

full patrol
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first time seeing that word ever being used so excuse me

muted heath
# full patrol can't do nothing about it ig

You can do something about it. It's change the pronunciation of some of the phonemes as Bryan indicated. I think the are just some sounds that you need to translate, to reduce your old accent and increase the desired accent.

full patrol
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do i have to like go through them all

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or what

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i really have no idea what im messing up atm

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"I think you have put in place verbal mannerisms to be 'slay'" Elaborate

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i think i get it but just to make sure

full patrol
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a couple of phonemes?

muted heath
# full patrol Also what did you mean by sub culture voice
full patrol
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Oh that

muted heath
full patrol
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i really really don't know why the hell i drop the f bomb so much

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listening to hip hop that much is prob the reason

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i promise i'll try my best to make it as minimal as possible or stop entirely

full patrol
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Is this really the only thing i have to get right to sound "good"?

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i feel like there gotta be more to it yk

muted heath
full patrol
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i might be wrong

muted heath
full patrol
full patrol
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where im i at

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in terms of sounding "Good"

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the record was kinda rushed cause electricity was gonna die in 5 min so i just did it real quick

muted heath
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It's just fitting in

full patrol
finite sapphire
# full patrol i really really don't know why the hell i drop the f bomb so much

it seems interesting for me, like, i do not use swear words at all, almost, neither in my native nor in english, for me it makes me immediately uncomfortable when the speaker is just dropping them very frequently, or frequently to begin with, like i put up with some being used somewhere along the way, but not too often

finite sapphire
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polish

full patrol
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i don't sound swear in my native language at all also

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oh

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the other black cat ig

river lance
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Either

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Negative too=neither

finite sapphire
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i meant negative

river lance
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Evillady I don't know

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I think u Pronunciation good, just a bit missing

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Mine is just not there 😕, we actually share couple things in common

muted heath
# full patrol in terms of sounding "Good"

Your English is fine. I'm not familiar with your original accent. I've not heard many people from your country who speak English, so would not be able to say your from wherever (Egypt). But there is an accent nevertheless.

I've said this previously here to others, but there is nothing wrong with speaking English or any other language with an accent that you have grown up with. You will naturally pick up accents from area of the world you eventually live in, and these will modify how you speak over your life time.

I personally have a scandanavian influenced US accent that sounds Canadian to most people of the world I speak to, but at the same time an American would say it's not American, my residential country where i have lived, say it's American, but also say i have an Irish accent at times, which i do. To people from outside my resident country, i have an influenced accent of my resident country. In the end, i just speak, and an not embarrassed by my voice. It's me. It's a good conversation piece when meeting new people.

river lance
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Phonetic systems are SO similar

full patrol
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kinda petty but anyway

river lance
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Just show em u speak Arabic

full patrol
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people here are nice some times too nice other servers im in id get clowned on so hard for my accent

river lance
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They'll ship their pans

full patrol
river lance
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Shit

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Not ship

finite sapphire
river lance
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I'm badwink

full patrol
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some mf said his rating for my accent is 9/11 out of two towers

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😭

river lance
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: ] demonic joke

full patrol
river lance
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We can fix it 😏

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U always care more about understanding than speaking 🔊

full patrol
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Ik im understandable i wanna sound real nice while doing it

river lance
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But given that English is literally the lingua franca of the world

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Well

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No need to sweat it

river lance
full patrol
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i still have no idea which phonemes you want me to work on 😭

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there is like 44 buddy

river lance
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U do sound nice

full patrol
river lance
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Nah

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Nobody cares

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I sound bad in my own language 🙃 😅 😪

full patrol
river lance
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I'll do my best to see what you can apply 😌 😉

finite sapphire
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i listened to those recordings and the swearing makes it so much worse lol

full patrol
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why on god's green earth did i drop 4 f bombs at the end

muted heath
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Speaking Japanese with a thick Australian accent just sounds stupid. I attempt to pronounce my Japanese ass i hear Japanese speak it. There is no difference to you trying to speak English as 350 million people speak English. It's just a way of perfecting the language. I think you are well developed in promising English so that it does not sound Arabic. But there is still an underlying difference. I to would be easily picked up in Japan, as while it does not sound like aussie, it is still just missing localized pronunciation differences that locals will hear. That is so I'm saying i hear in your voice.

full patrol
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so unnecessary

finite sapphire
full patrol
finite sapphire
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but communication is the priority

full patrol
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that got deleted so quick

muted heath
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🙅‍♀️

full patrol
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Uh yes it did

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its gone

muted heath
full patrol
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that sounds so goofy but sure

muted heath
river lance
full patrol
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You're the boss, boss

river lance
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Ure so close I can hear it, but... just a bit of more study that's all, not practice but knowledge 👌

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As u said, take my commentary as a grain of salt

full patrol
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I take that back actually

river lance
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Nothing I say is the definitive answer, but I do wanna help

full patrol
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you were so right i was blinded by my ego

muted heath
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Well 5am. ... 🛏️🧜‍♀️

full patrol
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Drowsy times

muted heath
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Ciao

full patrol
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Later

river lance
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No shit Sherlock homes

river lance
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:hehe_:coffee~1:

full patrol
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fail

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massive fail

river lance
full patrol
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You're getting the chair

river lance
full patrol
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Its 12 am B

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Im drowsy

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my bed is calling

river lance
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I mean it 🤷, I do make mistakes also, but I could fix those right away

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Ight

river lance
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Goodnight

full patrol
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yk what

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you sound like a native to me so stop with that crap

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i ain't hear a single mistake in any of your records

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you're good

finite sapphire
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i was about to intervene again and say it is acually "make mistakes" but i would sound like an mosquito buzzing around your ears lmao

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youre both great

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idk why you all worry so much

full patrol
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thats it

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nothing more nothing less

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and maybe prove to my friend from la that i can sound good

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last time he asked me to speak i got so nervous and fucked up so bad so that is that

finite sapphire
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maybe it is an endless cycle of trying to please someone, and that urge of pleasing someone makes you nervous, and then you wanna please them even more

full patrol
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not sweating it is key like peo said

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(ik she didn't say that exactly but it sounded like it)

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anyway

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time to sleep

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Catch yall later

finite sapphire
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you just have to be beginning to feel like a rap god

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jk

full patrol
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idfk rememer the lyrics

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remember

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😭

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i can rap some of his songs word for word tho

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im cool!!!

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jk

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anyway kitty cat

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catch you around

finite sapphire
river lance
full patrol
river lance
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So we need to get to the point where you can

full patrol
river lance
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Coz I hear it myself

full patrol
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I've been listening and consuming English content for 5 years

river lance
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That's good

full patrol
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Just recently I decided to give my accent some attention

river lance
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Ight

restive bolt
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https://voca.ro/1askAX1kqNmR

We bought an old house, my boyfriend and I. He’s in charge of the “new” construction – converting the kitchen in to the master bedroom for instance, while I’m on wallpaper removal duty. The previous owner papered EVERY wall and CEILING! Removing it is brutal, but oddly satisfying. The best feeling is getting a long peel, similar to your skin when you’re peeling from a sunburn. I don’t know about you but I kinda make a game of peeling, on the hunt for the longest piece before it rips.Under a corner section of paper in every room is a person’s name and a date. Curiosity got the best of me one night when I Googled one of the names and discovered the person was actually a missing person, the missing date matching the date under the wallpaper! The next day, I made a list of all the names and dates. Sure enough each name was for a missing person with dates to match. We notified the police who naturally sent out the crime scene team. I overhead one tech say “yup, it’s human.” Human? What’s human? “Ma’am, where is the material you removed from the walls already? This isn’t wallpaper you were removing.”

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pls don't judge the text choice 😭

I had already read all the texts in the pins here in another English learning server. This was one that was pinned recently there...

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I'm hoping I might be able to get some help with the intonation
My native language is Portuguese and English's rhythm is super different comparatively...

river lance
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True

willow marten
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Hello everyone. I just sharing. I have already attended online Toastmasters event in every country. From there I could know they spoke English well, not very well. Becauses there are region accent (in case Asia Toastmasters). And Carribean Toastmasters was very good. They are native English speaker and feel like America although they invaded by Britain. I suggest you to join online Toastmasters event on Facebook as a guest.

muted heath
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@restive bolt The main sound that stuck out, was the 'ee' as in peel, feel and ceiling. You are pronouncing it something like 'A', giving a pale sound for the word.

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You are making this sound

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It should be this sound

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Otherwise all sounds great as is.

dusk cypress
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@quick fulcrum

rocky jolt
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hi

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long time no see

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who want to talk to me?

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I am here and ready

gloomy pier
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how can i pronounce establishment

muted heath
gloomy pier
patent lance
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Hello

muted heath
patent lance
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How is every thing with you

muted heath
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Well. And you?

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And so endeth the conversation.

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🧜‍♀️

full patrol
muted heath
full patrol
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actually nvm

muted heath
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Yawn

full patrol
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i thought of that while buying smt for my grandma rn

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english is kinda tricky sometimes

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specially when its ur second

muted heath
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It's not an insult. It's just a statement about the brief nature of the interaction. It is therefore suitable for reading by beginner English students because it is so simple.

full patrol
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got it

trim silo
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How to pronounce further, especially '-ther'

craggy widget
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I've tried to find examples with increasing speed for each 3

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For the first group, the end sounds exactly like the word "the"

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For the second, the end is a voiced th-sound + an r-sound. There is not much of a separate vowel to speak of, the r-sound is the core of the syllable. If you're learning anything like general American, try to go from the th-sound to the r-sound with as little of a gap as possible

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Whereas in most kinds of England English, you don't need to worry about any r-sounds (unless the next word starts with a vowel), but you do need to make sure the vowel in "fur" is noticeably longer than the one in "ther"

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If you're learning something else entirely then ask and I'll see what I know

trim silo
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how to upload my recording

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Is like this?

craggy widget
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You've pronounced the 1st r but not the 2nd (should have both of them, or neither of them), and the th sounded like an l

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Something like "furla"

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For the th, make sure the tip of your tongue goes to the back side of your top front teeth, and gets close enough to make a buzzing noise

craggy widget
lunar steeple
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Oh how unfortunate,i'm dropping my audio file but the moment it gets sent it is automatically removed.

trim silo
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I guess it was because of the format error. You can translate to MP3.

craggy widget
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If you can't upload files for whatever reason, you can use vocaroo

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Website where you upload audio and then can share a link to it with people

trim silo
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like 'mp3' is called "format" right?

craggy widget
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Ye

lunar steeple
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Bro i just listened to my own recording and i sound like some drunk drug addict 💀

craggy widget
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Nobody likes listening to their own voice lol

lunar steeple
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Alright so i took my text from a previous member and i modified it a bit

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Here it is

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Also sorry for the weird "R"s i'm just too used to it in my native language

full patrol
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Gotta fix that yk

trim silo
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like mp3 to mp4 format, I should how to call it? switch or translate or else? I don't know.

craggy widget
lunar steeple
real flume
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Im lerning english lately and i want u guys to judge my accent

river lance
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Hello

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Anyone here to help me?

opaque bay
craggy widget
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For now must sleep

real flume
arctic inlet
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Another thing I like about Murray house is that you can relish in the magnificent sea view right after having a look at the architectural style. You don’t even have to walk a minute,it is extremely convenient. If you’re into fishing ,you can bring your fishing equipment with you during the visit as well so that you can fish by the sea. So, considering all these factors, I personally find Murray house worth a visit.

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I tried to do all those intonation stuff but I still have an obvious accent, why is that?

noble plume
river lance
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It is your thirteenth birthday, and as with all twelve preceding it, something feels missing from your life. The game presently eluding you is only the latest sleight of hand in the repertoire of an unseen riddler, one to engender a sense not of mirth, but of lack. His coarse schemes are those less of a prankster than a common pickpocket. His riddle is Absence itself. It is a mystery dispersing altogether, like the moon's faint reflection, with even one pebble of inquiry dropped in its black well. It is the most diabolical riddle of all.
"Absence diminishes little passions and increases great ones, as wind extinguishes candles and fans a fire." -Walt Whitman
Yes, you are certain Walt Whitman said that. One hundred percent positive.
You have a feeling it's going to be a long day.

full patrol
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@muted heath Is it normal that 90% of the grammar I use is all by sense? I don't actually know any of the grammar rules or stuff; I just know that this or that sounds right, so I type it, and 99% of the time I'm right

noble plume
muted heath
river lance
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Can anyone please, judge my accent?

muted heath
# river lance Can anyone please, judge my accent?

Without knowing you were not native, i would say the voice presents fine with a north American accent. Just a slight 'whispy' sound, but that may have been you trying to talk quietly, or the mic. You did lose that sound in the text following 'you are walt whitman... ". Clearer

Just a couple of words with odd pronunciation... as with, Repertoire, eluding, schemes, mystery, in particular. Few pauses for the long words, but nothing unusual for someone reading them in a hard passage. Very good.

sick ledge
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can anyone judge my accent (im native but where im from people from other places can find it hard to understand me)

sick ledge
full patrol
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Okay let me see

sick ledge
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thanks

full patrol
#

We bought an old house, my boyfriend and I. He’s in charge of the “new” construction – converting the kitchen in to the master bedroom for instance, while I’m on wallpaper removal duty. The previous owner papered EVERY wall and CEILING! Removing it is brutal, but oddly satisfying. The best feeling is getting a long peel, similar to your skin when you’re peeling from a sunburn. I don’t know about you but I kinda make a game of peeling, on the hunt for the longest piece before it rips.Under a corner section of paper in every room is a person’s name and a date. Curiosity got the best of me one night when I Googled one of the names and discovered the person was actually a missing person, the missing date matching the date under the wallpaper! The next day, I made a list of all the names and dates. Sure enough each name was for a missing person with dates to match.

muted heath
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@sick ledge did you record this?

sick ledge
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i sent a voice message in pms to him

rancid rain
half thicket
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can anyone judge my accent ? english is not my native

arctic inlet
lilac sage
rancid wasp