🗒｜pronunciation

[agile wren]

u can speak like an idiot but to other native speakers u sound like a native

anyway i went a bit off topic ig, yeah the past perfect tense isnt really used by native speakers i dont think, i only use it if i wanna exaggerate something like "I HAD JUST done this" or something

[finite sapphire]

yeah, getting back to the topic then you were great @jagged vault

[smoky star]

it’s good

I heard somewhere that you an accent is caused by you moving the wrong mouth movements in the wrong language, maybe try exaggerate or mimic other native english’s speakers mouth and tongue movements

[sacred badger]

Hmm..ok I'll try

[warped radish]

British accent

[smoky star]

nice

[sacred badger]

Elden ring ❤️

[broken pike]

It's good but you need to work on your pronunciation of the /r/ sound

[sacred badger]

This is my "American" accent

Which is

Fake and bad

[broken pike]

It's really good

[sacred badger]

But I'm bad at r

How can it be

Americans really love rolling their Rs

Sometimes

Really, rural

Rear

Heavy R implanted into these words

[broken pike]

Also try to pronounce the word "asked" /ˈæskt/ more clearly.

[sacred badger]

I will

Thank you for your feedback

Miss park

Better ?

@broken pike

[broken pike]

For which word?

[sacred badger]

Oh sorry

It was suppose to be asked

I'm so dumb

[sacred badger]

Asked

You said my pronunciation was off

[broken pike]

It's much clearer now, but the 2nd to last example that you gave is not so clear

[sacred badger]

What's not clear about it

So i can understand my mistakes

And not repeat them in the future

[broken pike]

It sounds more like "ask" /ˈæsk/ than "asked" /ˈæskt/
Try to pronounce the /t/ sound more at the end

[sacred badger]

Better now ? Lol

[broken pike]

Yes

[sacred badger]

What else do i need to work on ?

[agile wren]

rolling?

rolled r is different

rolled r you'd hear in russian not in english lol

well in most languages

english r is called retroflex

[craggy widget]

Yes, but be aware that you can completely ignore the /k/ if you want to, i.e. "ast"

I say this at the risk of restarting an argument I had on this server a while back lol

It's in fact a lot more common to pronounce it without the k https://youglish.com/pronounce/asked/english?

[sacred badger]

That's a nice website

[craggy widget]

(There's nothing wrong with pronouncing it either, I'm not saying you were wrong to. Only that you might like to know)

Yea youglish is great

It has biases that can be annoying at times, like it leans heavily into formal talks, speeches, and documentaries, so it's not perfectly representative

But it's very useful

[sacred badger]

Ye

[stone needle]

Good afternoon, here is a recording of me reading the text from the image.
Any advice on how to improve my pronunciation is more than welcome, thanks in advance.

[agile wren]

yeah consonant assimilation does that, i feel myself pronouncing the k in asked but nobody can hear it lol

very subtle

[craggy widget]

This is good, I can understand everything 👍🏼
There are a few overall things you might work on:

• /æ/ as in "classic", "gadget", "factory", "have", "that", "man". This vowel should be very front, but half the time you're making it very central, so I hear "clussic", "gudget", and "f**ktory" lol. The other half, you're making it too much like /ɛ/, so I hear "ev", "det", and "men". (in America, "man" is slightly different to the others but still should be different to "men")
• /ɪ/ as in "his", "him", "economist". You actually do a good job with this overall, but sometimes still make it sound like /i/ instead, so "heeze", "heem" and "economeest"
• You made good "th" sounds sometimes, but still mostly used /d/ instead, and I'm sure I heard /f/ and /v/ at least once. This didn't usually cause problems, but did make "at this radical decision" sound exactly like "at his radical decision".
• You're dropping a lot of Hs. Everyone does this to some extent for weak, unstressed forms of words like he/him/his and have/has/had, but it isn't standard to do it in general, like "Enry" instead of "Henry"

Random other things:

• You said "tried" as "dried" (needed more aspiration + devoicing of the r)
• "Should", "could", and "would" all have a completely silent l. They rhyme with "good"
• The end of "prospered" is like the end of "entered", not "speared". In other words for rhotic accents it typically ends like "bird"
• You didn't say the 's in "father's"
• "transformed" only has the vowel you used for some people in the south-east of England, so it's quite out of place haha. Everyone else has /æ/
• "automobile" is like "caught", not like "out". The 2 letters "au" together don't make that sound in English, except where they've come from other languages like "gauss"

[sacred badger]

You guys are making me feel bad about my accent

And pronunciation

I feel insecure now

Maybe i should take accent classes

[broken pike]

Your American accent is good

[sacred badger]

🥺

But...

You critiqued my "asked"

[broken pike]

[sacred badger]

Which means that it's incomplete

@broken pike maybe u should do 1 of these

Having ur accent judged

[stone needle]

Thanks a lot for the in-depth analysis.
I'll try to fix the things you mentioned

[finite sapphire]

and suddenly the thickest korean accent ever

nah, i dont think so, but its always cool to hear how some people make english their own language lol

[jagged vault]

Damn i just saw all of your messages 😭

Well, tbh, I completely understand your both opinions
In my case, I master my language almost perfectly (modern and ancient use as well) so i want to be eloquent when a speak my native language (french) and a foreign one (english,spanish, german..), and that's why I like the way you took my request @finite sapphire, thank you so much for your implication ✨
Otherwise, I also understand @agile wren opinion because i know that, sometimes it doesn't sound native (even when i speak french! These days, people has a limited vocabulary and are not able to understand another way to express an idea, and in my mind, it's really important to be eloquent and be capable of convince your interlocutor)
And I just joined this server, i've talked to a lot of people, by writing and calling, and i had this deep awkward feeling like i was talking to the same person everytime because the formulations were the sames, surprisingly, it makes english what it is, it sounds informal and a lot of time we told me that my formulations are really formal but it doesn't mind
For example, one time i said "a friend of mine" instead of "one of my friend" and the person in front of was like "damn, not every native say it this way", it really surprises me xD

Or, another example, in my insta feed, i have a lot of videos like "dont say "very good" in english, instead use..." And an english teacher answered that its useless because natives use "very good"

[finite sapphire]

yeah sometimes you just cant predict what people are gonna say, you can have the most casual conversation and all of a sudden someone throws at you something like "fabulous" or "inconspicuous", or the opposite, you talk about something serious, and you'd assume everything's gonna be serious, but then the speakers use some slang or very informal things

I think I also used to have this inclination towards sounding as good as i could, so eloquent and so venerable, and so courtly, and so everything, but then i noticed that a lot of people hate this cuz thats just complicating the communication, so, hard to please everyone and yourself at the same time

[jagged vault]

Yeah I completely understand that feeling! I actually have the same with my french friends, I sound boring when I talk a formal way, it makes me think that formal speaking is reserved for strangers

[pliant dew]

Sup guys, i'm a beginner and i'd like to know about my accent and pronunciation. I guess that would be better if i send an audio instead of a file. So, if someone can help me, just send me a friend request

[flat otter]

I will be glad if anyone could help me by providing me a resource for IELTS preparation

[broken pike]

https://ieltsonlinetests.com/collection/ielts-recent-mock-tests-volume-6

[frank bay]

@broken pike which time

Test stary

[broken pike]

The mock test starts whenever you choose to start

[sturdy zenith]

Me too! I have a really bad pronunciation.

[pulsar tiger]

I want to get my accent judged, how can we do that?

[stray depot]

Send a voice message and we'll be the judge of that!

[wind plinth]

What did you say near the end? I couldn't make it out.

[wind plinth]

The Voice Notes app?

[royal blaze]

I think he means the voice notes (messages) that he’s sending on Discord.

[wind plinth]

Ah, I see.

From what I've heard so far, your pronunciation is good, but I think there are issues with clarity. I think you should speak with a more consistent pace and pronounce words clearer.

[steady kernel]

Yea, I also had a hard time understanding that last part as well. The rest was fine.

[river lance]

try to open your mouth more when you speak. I here that's a very difficult and weird thing for non natives to learn. I'm not sure it will help you but it sounds like it might!

[nocturne inlet]

Thankyou all of you

[slate cape]

7/10

[slate cape]

Just send a message

[sacred badger]

I think it was just due to voice recording feature

Being clanky

It cuts off some of what u say

Also makes u sound muffled and or compressed

[zinc jacinth]

Hey

What is the use of this channel??

[arctic inlet]

To record yourself and get your accent judged

i tried to link as many words together as i can, it was really hard

i ran out of breath for multiple times

[sacred badger]

Your pronunciation is really good

But you lack clarity

You need to sound clearer

[finite sapphire]

i felt as if you were dying from asphyxia in a few places, including the whole end of the recording, but fine i get you, i also lose my breath sometimes when something is too long or just, somehow

i think that's a very inappropriate joke

[sacred badger]

It's what you said

But ur right, it's still inappropriate to comment on it

Ur right

[finite sapphire]

well i did say that, but i think we both know what you were implying lol

[sacred badger]

Fair lol

[finite sapphire]

honestly it's great, don't worry, maybe it lost a bit of clarity but i think this was due to the fact you were really struggling with breath, especially after "consistency" when you had to take a deep breath, it was fine and i felt you were trying

like you know how to pronounce all of this and it was visible, its just it is not easy

[arctic inlet]

ah ok

[rapid breach]

hi everyone, thanks @arctic inlet for sharing and showing us what this channel is for

I tried to read the text while listening to you and I too found some words difficult especially when they come together

[river lance]

Hi, I'm new here. I would like to improve my pronunciation, it would be great if you guys help me.

[nocturne pebble]

you could send an example for us to critique

[sudden beacon]

send a voice message here if you're using either of the phone clients
or if you're on the desktop client, you can first reocrd yourself and then send it here

[sudden beacon]

not rlly

[last maple]

Omaga

[rain fog]

😨

[fallow thorn]

are you trying to say 'literature'?

[dark adder]

yeah

[rain fog]

I hope I didn't cut the audio before finishing the sentence

[fallow thorn]

lol

[dark adder]

help me

[fallow thorn]

remember to have 4 syllables

[rain fog]

voilà

[fallow thorn]

for american pronunciation anyways

[dark adder]

[fallow thorn]

3 for British

[dark adder]

shur up @rain fog

[rain fog]

we were discussing wether the first T was pronounced as CH or R

[dark adder]

yeah

[fallow thorn]

literature

the first or second t?

[rain fog]

the first one

[fallow thorn]

more like an american t

so a soft d sound

then the 'chure' for the '-ture' at the end

[rain fog]

I've heard about that in dutch I think but I don't really know what sound it makes

[dark adder]

@fallow thorn I'll try ti pronounce "literally" and "literature", can you correct me pls?

american accent ofc

[fallow thorn]

the 'literally' was really good for a BrE accent

British

but not for an American

all your Ts need to be a soft d sound

so it should be like 'liderally'

[dark adder]

@fallow thorn better?

[fallow thorn]

yes

just work on the fluidity of the 'r' in literature

but still it was much better well done

[sacred badger]

It sounded like you said, leeerature

[fallow thorn]

sounds more american that way haha

[sacred badger]

https://youtu.be/EraKYQ5S3Sg

That's how u say it in BrE

Lower your L and strengthen your Ts

[fallow thorn]

it's goofy

@sacred badger do you learn BrE

[dark adder]

I couldn't record right on discord @fallow thorn

it was glitching

[fallow thorn]

oh

[dark adder]

finally @fallow thorn

[sacred badger]

Which accent are yoi going for ?

AmE or BrE

Oe neither

[dark adder]

AmE

[sacred badger]

Oh

[sacred badger]

LIT-ruh-ch'r

Or you can say Li-duh-ruh-ch'r

Both are correct

https://youtube.com/shorts/1Q2IwB76a_s?feature=share

https://youtube.com/shorts/YJQozNsG--w?feature=share

Both pronunciation are correct

[dark adder]

thanks sir

[dark adder]

@fallow thorn

[fallow thorn]

yh

but there is so much american influence

a lot of people sya both

[dark adder]

what does "yh" mean?

[fallow thorn]

like switch between the 2

[fallow thorn]

short for 'yes'

most people never say 'yes'

[dark adder]

ok

[fallow thorn]

they say 'yh' or 'Yeah'

[dark adder]

ikr

[sacred badger]

Yh is informal

So depends who you're talking to

Yh-ik-na-fr

[dark adder]

that reminds me that happens also between brazilians and portugueses

we have influence over their accent

it's kinda reverse colonization lol

[fallow thorn]

haha same

very similar in that respect

[arctic inlet]

what is the difference between american accent and canadian accent?

[slender rock]

It will vary by region, but generally the pronunciation of vowels

[arctic inlet]

i see

[steady kernel]

I had a very close friend from Canada who came to spend a week with me here in the USA and I really didn't notice any difference. She was from Ottawa. Although I did notice the 'eh' that Canadians often add to the end of their sentences. I found it very cute and often found myself mimicking her inadvertently.

[hazy nebula]

So, on this channel, can I upload the text and my voice record?

[sacred badger]

Yes

[arctic inlet]

ooo i see, i find the "eh" cute as well XD

[slim nacelle]

does anybody know an app where you can voice chat with an ai? i want to practise speaking.

it would be better if we could choose the ai's accent too

and how do actors manage to excel at more than one accent it makes me feel dumb

is it that easy?

i just want to pronounce stuff clearly and be able to talk : (

[distant adder]

Hy

[hazy nebula]

Hello guys, so I decided to read this text (it may sound strange, but it's just a light novel), and wanna how bad my accent is on a scale of 0-10

[odd pivot]

8/10

[hazy nebula]

Thanks for the honest rating

[craggy widget]

It's pretty good! Most of it was understandable :)
Here is what I heard:

Estin' the classroom and closin' the door behind me, I took a step fwor, when I hoord a voice at my back.
"What were you discussing wif Hanekawa?"
I darnt face it.
As I deed, I had yet to grasp who it was - di voice wasn familiar. But I wad here'd it somewhere before. Yes, dot reed "I dut know" dot showed her like some catphrace, whenever a teacher called on her, during class -
"Dent move."
Wiv har second line, I healized that I was dealing with Seinjohara. I also healized sat ze moment I torn, Seinjohara, as if eye-ming troog a narrow geb, had stuck a boss cuttuhh, blade ampla stended, right into my oral gavft.

---

Some of the main points I'd suggest working on:

• Aspirating the stops /p/, /t/, and /k/. You need to have a short breath hhh after these sounds or they will often sound like /b/, /d/, and /g/ to English speakers. Unlike in Portuguese, voicing is not the main way we make a difference between these 2 groups. I'll make a recording because it's easier than trying to write about it
• R as the center of a syllable. In words like "forward", "heard", "turn", and "her", the r-sound shouldn't really have a vowel before it, at least in typical American English. It's just on its own, like "forwrrd", "hrrd", "trrn", "hrr". You made this sound nicely in other places though 👍🏼
• The TH sounds. These are different to t/d and f/v. T/d are not dental (tongue tip doesn't touch teeth) whereas the TH sounds are. Also the TH sounds typically are hisssssing sounds, not stop sounds, so you should be able to make a TH sound for many many seconds, until you have no breath. Put the tip of your tongue on the back of your top front teeth and hisss air through. That's different to f/v, because f/v have your bottom lip on your top teeth and TH don't.
• Vowel consistency. "That" came out as "dot" and "dut", "don't" as "dent", "did" as "deed", etc.

Also "realized" starts with the same r sound that's in "reedy", "grasp", "turn", etc, it shouldn't start with an h. This is the only word you did that in so it's not a major point lol

Very 🇧🇷 thing haha

[hazy nebula]

Yeah, I am indeed Brazilian. Thank you so much for your review, It was very helpful. But what did you mean by aspirating the stops?

By the way, is this kind of pronunciation so common between Portuguese speakers?

[sudden beacon]

this is gonna be a little bit of a fun one (with the focus mainly put on having fun)
can you guys try and say my discord name?
both lovova and loved

[craggy widget]

Ok I made the recording I promised

(I am not American so my accent is not perfect but I'm told it's good enough for demonstrating things like this, by several friends I trust to tell me honestly lol)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7szkN4QcxI

There are more videos on this than any person could ever watch lol

[craggy widget]

Lack of aspiration is very very common for speakers of other Romance languages too like Spanish, Catalan, Italian, French, Romanian...
It was saying "realized" as "healized" that really made me sure you were from Brazil

[hazy nebula]

Bro, maybe you aren't American, but you really, really sounded like those audios on English courses. I'm really appreciate your help. By the way, where are you from?

[hazy nebula]

I realized that now, I had just searched it, and a lot appearead

[sacred badger]

I like ur enthusiasm

And accent

[rustic apex]

I must agree with you, his accent, voice along with the quality of the audio file are magnificent.

Judging by his ability to analyze your speech in detail, I'd assume that this person spent hundreds of hours for perfecting each possible sound. Nevertheless, the information on his profile about his language status says that he's a native English speaker, which clarifies everything.

Personally, I believe that a language is merely a tool to interact with each other, therefore such a high level isn't really essential for many of learners unless it's related to their careers. The key of success is mostly not reaching an apex, but being confident and working at your pronunciation until you'll be easily understood by others

[hazy nebula]

I agree with you, language definitely is a tool to communicate, it was born because of that very same reason in fact, but I have to say that I wish I could have that same level of pronunciation, it's incredible. Anyways, even if I can't reach that level one day, I wish to be at least able to speak every word that I know correctly to some degree and be able to communicate with people -- as you said.

Thanks for the support, my friend.

[odd pivot]

Ur welc

[river lance]

@limber veldt

[limber veldt]

I didn't ping you here

[river lance]

But I did

[limber veldt]

[feral wasp]

I would easily listen to a book summary by you

[feral wasp]

can i consider this an art piece ? bc it looks like one

that was beautiful and useful

[craggy widget]

I'm native yes, just not American so my accent in that recording isn't perfect. That's what I meant.
I'd agree that the most important thing is to be understood yes, which is why I tried to limit the bullet points in my message to things that very often do affect how understandable you are. There's a lot more detail I could've analysed haha, but it's not as helpful as talking about what overall things can be improved

[craggy widget]

Australia (birth) or Scotland (lived nearly all my life) or England (family)

[stray depot]

👀

[steady kernel]

That's a quality mic you got there. Really nice.

[agile yacht]

hi, could someone tell me about my pronounciation please? thanks

[sacred badger]

Wow

You sound very soothing and clear

I'm jealous of you and your microphone, give me both of them (your skill and microphone)

[hazy nebula]

Ah, I see.

[fleet nebula]

AYOOOOOO

I see the rizz

[hazy nebula]

Is it possible to rizz someone just with the voice? Incredible.

[fleet nebula]

Bro

bro hasn't seen corpse's fanbase

[finite sapphire]

you sound disturbing or i dont understand what corpse means

[fleet nebula]

https://youtube.com/shorts/x8mBRGucD7o?feature=share8

THIS is corpse

he grew a huge fanbase (of mostly teenage girls..) cuz of his voice

but when his face got revealed

most of them turned on him cuz he wasn't the most attractive man on planet earth like they imagined

[queen herald]

This enough for at least the peoples understand what I saying?

[sacred badger]

I can understand most of what you say

But yeah you could definitely improve your pronunciation and be clear as you practice

[queen herald]

What the parts that you didn't understand?

[vestal vault]

Omg I could hear your voice all day long

[queen herald]

I too

[river lance]

Is this enough for people to understand what I am saying. 👍

[river lance]

You make some grammatical mistakes, which I won't bother correcting. What I will say, though, is that i can understand what you're saying, however there are two big things that would help. Your vowel sounds, like in the word have and cars for example are very nasally. And two, you're not opening your jaw very much, I think. When you don't open your jaw alot it can often make your words sound very meshed together and unclear.

So yeah try working on those two things

You sound good, much better than my portuguese, so keep it up!

[lime crown]

8/10

[queen herald]

When I saying in english, sometimes I forget the words and I mix everything, for example use the "in" and "on" in wrong times and something else.
I'll train more the non-nasal sounds and the english in general.
About the jaw, you right, my jaw is very closed, but I speak portuguese this way too, btw if you want improve your portugues I can help you 😄

[valid hornet]

I can definitely understand what you are saying/ points you are making! as @river lance said, it's just small grammatical mistakes.

[slim nacelle]

so nobody knows or am i asking in the wrong channel

[stray depot]

https://voca.ro/1nIkcCs5VyRU

@ancient ravine

@pure vale

[arctic inlet]

i think it's just a matter of practice

but be mindful that it usually takes long

[river lance]

the same way anyone excel at anything!

I can judge your accent guys

And yours 🐸 @teal totem

[arctic inlet]

i tried to do a individual response question taken from a public exam past paper

as you can see i don’t have too much of a problem reading passages but when it comes to conversational stuff where i have to voice my opinion my brain is always buffering and i can’t come up with a full sentence fast enough

[sacred badger]

That's because speaking is a skill

My english is fairly good and i can be quite articulate, but because i don't talk a lot I'm not that good

[finite sapphire]

yeah its not that easy sometimes, these topics are always random and its kinda like you gotta think of a response, and at the same time there is also the difficulty of speaking in a different language added to it

you had an idea and conveyed the idea so thats at least communicative

at this point its just a matter of creativity of the answer and getting all this more smooth

[pure vale]

i can understand pretty much all of what you’re saying and it’s pretty good
i think you do have some difficulty saying names because I don’t think i could catch what the names were
also longer words were pronounced a little differently but still understandable
no stutter is great btw

[river lance]

Anyone confirm if I have an accent or not?

[stray depot]

Everyone has an accent

[sacred badger]

I think he meant if he has a specific accent

That can be identified

[pure vale]

we need some voice recording

[stray depot]

oh lol

me and my dumb brain

[sacred badger]

There is

You just gotta be lv5

Sorry

25*

[pure vale]

i can’t see if im not level 25 ?

[river lance]

you'll have to record me in person i guess? i prefer that

but i prefer confidentiality

and im not ready to talk yet

see me on sunday

or saturday

cant rmb

Saturday at BHS.

[pure vale]

H

[stray depot]

im seeing it too

[river lance]

i need to appeal to the court

but i dont want to deal with that

i leave that to lawyers

[arctic inlet]

ah okay

also how would you answer that question

[finite sapphire]

that would be my approach, i guess i also got a bit messy, but idk, you can judge me too if you wanna i guess

[arctic inlet]

i see your point as well, you did well dw

also where are you from?

[finite sapphire]

Poland

did i sound very slavic to you? lol

[arctic inlet]

a little bit lol

[finite sapphire]

and thank you, i honestly would not be so sure about that but fine

[finite sapphire]

I listened to that again and you probably dont seem to struggle with lacking words, its just you gotta try them more and more maybe, like you can do that way better for sure

thats pretty interesting cuz you dont even make any obvious grammar mistakes, you're just slow, so, yeah, good luck on it

[arctic inlet]

for some parts i was trying to come up with synonyms but failed miserably

[arctic inlet]

thank you, i think the reason why i don't have much of an issue with grammar is because hong kong teachers put a lot of emphasis on grammar, we have grammar quizzes regularly especially in high school

[river lance]

This sounds like my english oral evaluation tests😂

[arctic inlet]

i did another question, i paused in some places to come up with synonyms for the phrase “get used to” but failed again so i resorted to saying the same phrase over and over again 😭

[finite sapphire]

maybe it was visible to you, like the "get used to" problem, but if i listen to this then people do this too, you said it two times, this is not bad yet cuz two times can happen so often

you could have tried "get accustomed to" or forming it even in a different way instead, but this is still fine cuz you communicated things rather clearly

like two times is not over and over again, no worries, that happens and its too tiny detail to be concerned about a lot, this recording was better than the last one

[arctic inlet]

oh yeahh i used to know this phrase but i use it so rarely that it slipped out of my mind so thanks for reminding me :)

[sacred badger]

Your English is fantastic luni but you sound anxious/scared be more relaxed take your time to express yourself

Take it slow at first then increase the speed as you get more comfortable

[finite sapphire]

i noticed that too but i did not wanna point it out that much cuz sometimes it makes people even more anxious, when they know it is audible enough

[sacred badger]

If it's too noticeable

It's better to be mentioned so that they can work on it and improve ❤️

We are here to learn and improve, this is a "judge my accent" channel

[finite sapphire]

you look kinda creepy with all these hearts tbh, but fine you're right

[arctic inlet]

alright!

i think i’m getting more comfortable with expressing myself in english, though i admit i retried a lot this time in order to response better

also apologies for my coarse voice at the last part, my allergy just kicked in

[finite sapphire]

thats way better than previous ones, now you seemed quicker and smoother than priorly, and idk what hong kong fair refers to, but the part about people not reading is pretty sad ngl

[finite sapphire]

you know, now if i think about this, then i wouldnt even notice that so much, because i just assumed it was cuz the mic got a bit odd or something, so no worries lol

[arctic inlet]

hong kong fair is an event where you get to buy books

[finite sapphire]

ah okay, thanks

[gray raptor]

allow voice messages here @devout trellis

[sour sedge]

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[sacred badger]

You need to be level 5

Sorry 25*

[gray raptor]

Level 25? to send voice messages thats crazy

[sacred badger]

#1096428803724673124 you can give your suggestion if you have any

[gray raptor]

aight

[latent merlin]

idk but ur voice is so sexy

naughty moment

[gray raptor]

u sound like an ai

[pure vale]

it's good, some words are pronounced a little bit differently than most but that fixes itself soon
spoken consistently aswell

[river lance]

HAHAHAHAHA like an ai that’s correct

[river lance]

omg you sound like a voice actor

[sacred badger]

Why dose that sounds like an ad that I'd get on my youtube ? (I don't mean to be Rude) imo you don't sound very natural is all ❤️

[river lance]

😉😉

[inner smelt]

Indian Accesnt

ezy peezy lemons sqizy

[boreal umbra]

Brazilian

[long sequoia]

Bro could do same

Asmr*

[sudden kraken]

the same to you, we are also taught grammar first but it's wrong way to learn a new language, right? and now i come back to learn how to listen and speak first and realize that i waste 7 years studying in school

[frosty agate]

indonesia

[next dagger]

African

[analog thunder]

Egyptian

[opal void]

I sound complete trash

[sacred badger]

It's fine, don't beat yourself up

We are all trying to learn

[opal void]

Thanks

[inner smelt]

good mic xd

[rustic apex]

Thanks ^^

[quiet swan]

pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

[silk token]

Ohh that's interesting! I would say from east Europe. Just on first try.

I really would like to use the voice function here in discord, but you can't pause and play it before sending it 😞

Also my experience is, that the voice messages have horrible quality 😭

[viscid heart]

We are all trying to learn

[rustic apex]

You're quite funny, bud. Judging by your speech, you're definitely not from Asia. Furthermore, I noticed that your THs sound more like Z, which, I believe, is very common in Russian accents. So, I'll go with somewhere in Europe. Additionally, the word people isn't countable, it's always plural xD

[silk token]

So you never say people or what do you mean? And I am German, but my English voice sounds VERY different 🙂 But that depends HOW I speak, I can speak very deeply, like a dragon but also squeeky like a squirrel.

Alright, 1min sample with different voices 😄

My Fan was on, I hope it's not in the sound,I will replay it now, you can sadly not check it before pressing send -_-'

[rustic apex]

I mean, it sounded like you said peopleS, at least that's what I heard

[silk token]

"word" is btw. a big enemy for me 😄

so after hearing my file it sounds not very good. The microphone needs to be very close of the phone, to record it loud 😦

really the bot blocks it because it think it's naughty? xD....

[silk token]

Oh yeah, I could do that 🙂

[rustic apex]

Are you drunk by chance? 🤭

@silk token

[silk token]

What? Noo... Why? 🤯

I'm just a happy derp

I really don't understand why.. why you think I'm under the influence of substances 😭

[rustic apex]

Welp, maybe cos I've never met such a happy man before

I was like what's the catch...

[silk token]

Sorry 😓

Just seemed as robin Williams

He also loves to play with his voice

In Mrs doubtfire was he a voice actor in the movie 🙂

[plucky vector]

Hi! Everyone

[nocturne pebble]

whats up

[nocturne pebble]

wow you have a really nice voice

[river lance]

A nice voice and a sexy accent

[trail kraken]

bro sounds like stampy long head w

[drifting meadow]

perfect 🔥

[tardy gazelle]

Nice voice, and u come from VN right

[solar panther]

No. What's VN?

[solar panther]

Thanks. 😅 But does it sound like a native speaker?

[true thistle]

accent is amazing

[true thistle]

true af

[true thistle]

exactly bro

[tardy gazelle]

Vietnam

i'm sorry
it's my habit

[solar panther]

Thank you very much. 😄

[tardy gazelle]

haha because i see your name
it like some name people in this country

[true thistle]

ur welcome

[stark jackal]

Hello

[true thistle]

hi

[stark jackal]

How are you

How are you?

[onyx obsidian]

For me you sound like a native. But who I am to judge

[solar panther]

Really? Wow that's awesome. Thank you. 😄

[river lance]

Sounds really good , Are you from the Netherlands by any chance?

[solar panther]

No. 😅 Does my accent sound like that?

[river lance]

Maybe the R's but not really

Your accent is really good though and your voice is amazing

[river lance]

Don't get me wrong though your R's sound good

[solar panther]

Thank you very much!
But as you pointed out my 'R's...could I improve somehow?

[river lance]

Your R's are good , it just reminds me of Dutch people saying the letter R, maybe it's just me being me , but it's good

I think your pronunciation is good though

May I ask where are you from?

[prime pilot]

lol ur english doesnt suck i thought u were a native at first

and ur accent is amazing

well maybe irl u sound different but i can tell u in ur voice msgs u sound great

russian?

[river lance]

Yeaaa. Honestly, it does sounds like those "listening" audios from the book I use in the English course.

really good

[solar panther]

😄 Thank you very much!

[spiral hull]

Hello

[restive furnace]

hello

how cn i improve my english pronunciation and sounds

Shared from Whiteboard

[frozen solar]

Hello i dont know if my accent is good i dont use that ' in many words but when im learning im giving this things

[strange scaffold]

Hello

[arctic inlet]

i haven't practiced much lately

[sacred badger]

U did good

I was able to understand most of what you said

[finite sapphire]

should have been "did well", and yes, it was understandable

[arctic inlet]

i was worrying that my english might have degraded a bit due to lack of practice recently, so i'm relieved to hear that :)

[lethal wolf]

no

i'm russian and my accent is different.

more strong.

[loud tundra]

Hi guys, how to speak here 🙁?

[lean elbow]

your accent not gonna lie sounds 10 times better than me TOT

[lean elbow]

maybe you could record your voice on your phone and upload that here. I'm not really aware of "voice" function on discord so gotta work our ways around a bit

[static blaze]

Use mp3 app and send file here

Voice recordings on discord only work in dms

[muted heath]

Hey Eugene, as far as I'm concerned, i think you are perfect with how you speak. The world is multicultural now, and i don't really understand what you are trying to emulate, but you're English is fine, as or like are acceptable, and your pronunciation of fine. Be confident in your current voice. It's great. (AUS eng spkr)

Hi. Your opening words threw me quickly into hearing the sound of a person narrating a story in fine bbc (uk) English. It was great. It persisted through your general commentary and through the passage. However within 5 or so words i heard the underlying accent which as you asked i will guess was Dutch or Afrikaans, possible the second moreso. I couldn't pinpoint what gives an accent away, but maybe the 'r' within words has a bit of a trill.

So reading on, i see the Dutch/r was also mentioned by others.

[muted heath]

Don't forget to tell us in the end

Maybe Polish then

[lean elbow]

WHat's your native tongue may I ask?

[solar panther]

I won't say it right away.

[solar panther]

I'll wait a little longer before I tell you. 😄

[cyan wasp]

Maybe German?

your accent is really good

[lean elbow]

somewhere from Scandinavian countries? They're pretty much natives by now proficiency wise

[lean elbow]

Oddly enough having studied German for 6 years, I didn't even notice your German accent lol

but tbf German and English are to the extent quite similar to each other (Gift vs Giftung, Dick vs dick, Sensible vs Sensibel, sympathetic vs sympatisch lol) so no surprise you have much easier time imitating British accent or whatever the variant you're interested in

[solar panther]

Wow. Thank you very much. ^^

[native hatch]

Nice Delacroix's painting

[solar panther]

That's right! Liberté guidant le peuple. While many have seen the painting, most just ask me if I like Coldplay...

[native hatch]

lol

[lean elbow]

Me seeing German commented: Diese Kommentarebereich gehoert jetzt zu Bundesrepublik Deutschland (Don't take this seriously please)

[dense ferry]

how can i send voice clip here

[lean elbow]

you can record that using your phone or recorder you have your hands on and upload it here in mp3

[midnight ember]

I'm having some grammar exercises, is anyone here free, I need everyone's help. Because I have to finish in 30 minutes

[finite sapphire]

feels like the mentioned minutes have passed so i think am no help anymore, but, i guess i might have taken a look if only i made it on time

@midnight ember if you still need it then you can share it in #📚｜english-questions or something, or just DM me, maybe I can somehow help, if it is still even relevant

[midnight ember]

you can send me a message

[finite sapphire]

done

[agile haven]

For reference 👇

[broken charm]

thanks

[agile haven]

Like I said, I messed up

But

Meh

[undone escarp]

de seen-- uh uh uh

[agile haven]

Ye

[undone escarp]

Your hands look like your 26 ?

[agile haven]

Desenitibdbej

[agile haven]

What

[undone escarp]

💀ye

y/o

[undone escarp]

how old is you bro

[agile haven]

How can you guess an age via hands

[undone escarp]

💀cause I'm wierd I guess

Am I correct tho?

[agile haven]

🥲

[undone escarp]

Yoo is that a yes

[undone escarp]

?

[agile haven]

Yes 😭

[undone escarp]

Wtf

How can I do that

😭

[agile haven]

😭

[midnight ember]

i need help

[dense ferry]

thx

[agile haven]

Try #📚｜english-questions

[midnight ember]

done 😂

[agile haven]

You're already done with it? Lol

[brazen ermine]

Three things that are really common with German speakers and that i noticed all throughout your recording are:

1. Pronouncing final /r/ in some words but not in others, especially dropping it after /o/ like short fortune and born but keeping it after other vowels. this doesn't affect the ability to understand you at all, but it is at least something that a native from England wouldn't do (but non-natives and I've noticed some natives from South Africa do, which is maybe why you sounded afrikaans-y)

2. Pronouncing short /e/ and short /a/ (text vs taxed or peng vs pang) very close together, to the point where it can be hard to tell which one you mean without context. Some examples are within the native range for a standard England accent (although still a little closer together than they could be), but other times it fully sounds like you merge them (that's 0:13, language 0:20, can 0:33, pangs 1:40, rather 2:13). It's more common for /a/ to be a low front [a] in southern England, not low-mid front [ɛ~æ] like German Hände or you might hear in some other accents (southern hemisphere like New Zealand or South Africa; really old recordings of RP speakers; North Americans in some contexts)

3. Mixing up voicing at the ends of words. You said pronounce with /z/ instead of /s/, end them sounded exactly like anthem, rub had /p/, insolence of office had /z/, himself had /v/, life had /v/, dread had /t/, "of resolution" sounded more like "offer resolution". This usually only makes you slightly harder to understand, but it's also a big mark of non-native speech and especially German speakers

even with those though, you still speak relatively clearly and nothing sounds difficult to understand in context, so those three points are mostly if you're trying to sound more native and be more consistent with what sounds you use where

[brazen ermine]

all three of those things really are noticeably more common for German or German-adjacent speakers than other people (esp. when you put them together), but either way I could at least tell you were non-native

that's not a bad thing, just like someone guessing you're German isn't a bad thing, it's just something that exists and to keep in mind if you want to sound more native-like

I tried to phrase the advice itself pretty neutrally (not super heavy on "German does X") because you didn't say where you were from in the recording

[agile haven]

This is literally so good 😭

[river lance]

I want one I can vc him , it's better to be 13&16 year old and can understand my weak and bad accent and language

[lean elbow]

maybe there're other reasons your teacher gave you C instead of A and B. I'm not gonna be that party pooper spoiling everything on the way, but I don't think pronouncing like him will guarantee you A or flying colour result. Like our native Cord said, it all comes down to pronunciation and it's absolutely fine to have accent sprinkling on top.

[agile haven]

WHAT

[lean elbow]

but of course if you knew the "proper" pronunciation of such words just stick with it

[ruby loom]

i get about 75% on avg

[rocky ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-kitty-gif-22690023

Hi, everyone in #🗒｜pronunciation .
I want to improve my strong accent with through training and exercise.
I need someone's help.

[timid plume]

id advise you to post a recording of you reading something so people that are really good at that stuff can give you tips for you specifically

[edgy pine]

Here is me reading a poem I wrote tonight.

Wear the mask of lies
To hide those sad eyes.
Act until your inside cries
'Cause the rule of life applies.

As the joy of life fades out,
I wanna shout out loud.
But can't since my mind is full of clouds.
I go to my bed of depression
As the sun shines.

As the sun rise,
Rule of life applies.
Bury the mask to today
'Cause these might be my last lies.

[tiny crest]

Very good, there were a few that were a bit off, such as "Wear" which should sound more like "Ware", but otherwise, it was great!

[muted heath]

Nice and clear. As above were (ware) and also the 'j' in joy should be a little harder dj. It was very French sounding on that word. Otherwise good.

[muted heath]

Having had lived in Germany for s couple of years, your fine Shakespeare really threw me into pushing my belief of you accent more westward towards Dutch. Otherwise i will just say i love the northern European/Scandinavian versions of English. They are just perfect for international News, language recordings narrating, old English/US movies pre 1950, Shakespeare, and on it goes....

[muted heath]

De Sen si t<eye>z ation

[muted heath]

It's so true and so sad

[inland field]

I wanted to switch to Bri'ish coz it's fancy.

But I guess I will have to stick with NA English.

It's easy for me.

[sacred badger]

Aussie FTW

[muted heath]

It's a personal best

[sacred badger]

Underrated accent

[tiny crest]

Choose left.

[tiny crest]

A real one over here.

[finite sapphire]

there is only one real, true english accent and it is the middle one 👍

[tiny crest]

Simply a lie.

The American accent is the bane of all English speakers, we all hate it.

[finite sapphire]

yes but it is the most understandable one

like all are, but...

but i sometimes lose my tempo when hearing quick b'wooo'i'tii'sh

[tiny crest]

Fair reason.

[marsh vessel]

french accent it's the best

[finite sapphire]

very clear

i like it

even though the text was difficult, you did very well and made it clear

[hushed hazel]

thank you very much .it means a lot

[muted heath]

🇬🇧 Traditional English
🇺🇸 Simplified English
🇭🇲 International English

[finite sapphire]

actually not true, british accent is not traditional, the original english accent is american, because british was influenced by other european accents while american was developed by people who moved from england

american english is the traditional english

[muted heath]

From England from Europe

[finite sapphire]

yes but americans moved like before british was influenced by other accents

so they preserved the original one

[muted heath]

English is built on European languages far before it was ever English

England colonized the India long before America, therefore Indian English is more pure by that argument.

Traditional English

Paralysis (pa ral ys is). Pronounce the 'ys' the same as the 'is'.

[finite sapphire]

okay

you are right

but i still think that least the american pronunciation might be closer to the original than the british

*at least

[muted heath]

Maybe around Amish town

Ey

[muted heath]

Remember the English colonies were not set up to preserve the mother tongue, rather they were there to dump the riffraff they did not want. Convicts primarily from other lands that they brought in as slaves and then disposed of for the slightest indiscretion.

But it's a very good accent, that sounds authoritative. A good doctor voice.

[tiny crest]

I suppose I’ll allow the use of the Australian flag to represent international accents.

[muted heath]

Humbly lowers head and walks away backwards

[tiny crest]

Lmao.

[muted heath]

Onya

[tiny crest]

I love studying accents.

I want to study some Russian ones to vary my speech later rather than just various English ones:

Currently looking into the variety of English accents in the UK and Ireland, as I can do a good Irish accent as I have ancestry in Ireland.

[muted heath]

Same

Apart from the Russian component of your statement

[mortal latch]

No love never jugde

[lyric geode]

I'm still waiting for the joke

[waxen portal]

I want to hear the irish accent.

As im irish i needa judge it

[warm sinew]

Well the thing is the pacific northwest has the purest and most legible form of english

it is perfect

there is no accent

[tiny crest]

Alright, I’ll give it a shot later on when I’m home.

[hushed hazel]

thank you

[muted heath]

Can you post a sound bite off you saying paralysis now?

[river lance]

😂😂😂

[finite sapphire]

am glad i made you laugh lol

[river lance]

More of a "I can't believe I've just seen that" laugh

[hushed hazel]

lol

[muted heath]

The second one is perfect. Never say the first ever again. 🥳

Also for words like analysis, dialysis, hydrolysis, electrolysis, ...

[hushed hazel]

aight gotcha..thanks again

[muted heath]

💃

[teal fiber]

[warm sinew]

Hola parceros 👋 I am a beginner english student from home country Colombia 🇨🇴

you may have also seen me around the discord, but I never share my accent before, because I am too scared. I think I am the worst in my english class.

please tell me how I do- and offer any tips of improvement. Excited to start my english journey!

[grave basin]

It sounds great to me

[muted heath]

I think you are a troll.

[vast torrent]

You are really good but you are pronouncing all the words with a strong lisp

[narrow frost]

It sounds great, and I can hear you clearly.

[sacred badger]

Idk if you're trolling or genuinely think that but ur not a beginner at all

Beginners usually spend more time thinking rather than speaking

[void aspen]

Lol, he is definetely not a beginner.

[native parrot]

would u guys rate my accent.. I'm a beginner. Pls bear with my microphone's weird sound quality

[tiny crest]

That's very good! There are some hints that you are a foreigner, but I would consider your accent to be very understandable.

Where are you from if I may inquire?

[muted heath]

I was expecting that you were going to give an alvin recording.

You are understandable, but you do speak a little fast.

[arctic inlet]

also i realized that my voice was really soft so you might have to set your volume to nearly maximum, my apologies

[arctic inlet]

thanks

also i’m deleting that now that i look back at it i feel cringe

[tiny crest]

Give it another go! Attempting to speak and getting help to improve is a great way to learn, and I'd be glad to help.

[arctic inlet]

ah, then can i send that again in your dms?

[tiny crest]

Sure, I don't mind at all.

[arctic inlet]

alright

[steel pilot]

Hello new member here

How does this work

I wanna get rid of my accent

[tiny crest]

In this channel you can send voice recordings of yourself talking in-order to get help to improve.

[steel pilot]

New to discord as well. Don’t see voice recording option. What am I missing?

App is updated

[arctic inlet]

i think you need to achieve a certain rank to send voice message, you can do a screen recording with your mic on though

[steel pilot]

Ohh

Tried screen recording to send here the speech sample

[finite sapphire]

bruh, i thought i was gonna check it out

and got confused cuz i saw no recording above your messages haha

[slender rock]

Not bad. Easy to understand, except a few words (but that's a fault with the audio)

[steel pilot]

I want to ENTIRELY get rid of my accent. How do you suggest that I do it?

[arctic inlet]

lol

[arctic inlet]

also i can send it in dms, i just don't want so many people to view it

[slender rock]

You're going to trade one accent for another. You need lots of commitment and patience before you see any real change

[vagrant gust]

its alright to send it here, the more opinions you get the better, whether its good or bad, a lot of people here are learning anyways.

If you really feel not safe then its ok to not send it anyways, I don’t wanna sound serious and demanding lol

[finite sapphire]

feel free if that makes it easier for you, i dont laugh people off anyway

[arctic inlet]

the recording i originally sent was me trying to rap for the first time to practice my english pronunciation, i felt embarrassed after that so i deleted it

i can dm it to you though if you're fine with that

[vagrant gust]

oh for sure you can dm me if you want my feedback

[steel pilot]

You have no idea about the level of commitment i have for this. I just need action steps.

[muted heath]

I'm new to this server. This is an odd channel, but makes sense in a way. People want to lose their original country accent and replaced it with the accent of them place they lived in/want to be associated with.

Most folks here are not experts in undoing accents.

Accents come from people living close together forming a common style of pronunciation of phonetics, and also when learning a new language, by carrying the sound of their native language into the new language.

As kids many unique people from other parts of the world, and whilst it generally is regarded as mockery or even racist, it does actually highlight the obvious key sound of what is regarded as the standard sound from that part of the world.

The rest part is imitating. The hard part is analyzing the sounds heard and differentiating them from another accent. To do this requires comparison of hundreds of syllables and words to see what happens between two sounds that could be the same but aren't.

It would be much more difficult to pick apart your Indian accent and tell you where you need to make changes, than it would be to tell you to pick the accent you want, and listen to it and imitate it. For example if you want to change your accent to West Australian, then you will need to find a good source of people from that region, and listen to how they say words and imitate those words. The best way to do that is to go there and live there. If you don't remember yourself in a region, you will not likely ever truly pick up that accent, as you will miss the subtle sound that are made by many in pronouncing individual words. You cannot similarly just take 1 prison from a region and use them for the source of your accent, as it will not allow you to see how the region sound. Only how that one person sounds.

Continues below....

[grave basin]

I learned American accent through movies by imitating the actors pronouncing the words. It's been helping and of course it takes time

[steel pilot]

I see. How about I practice with you? In a voice channel? In one of the small rooms on this server?

[grave basin]

I'm not confident in offering any help though cos I'm no native speaker. I worry I might teach you incorrect pronunciations for some words that I'm still grasping

[steel pilot]

Alright. Do you know anyone from the server who could help?

[grave basin]

Unfortunately no. I'm still new here

[steel pilot]

Okay 👍

[steady kernel]

Yea, as mentioned above, you're speaking a little too fast. Just slow down a little bit. Very good pronunciation overall.

[arctic inlet]

I did another question taken from past papers

[muted heath]

.....Continuing from before

For example, if your "one" source speaks in a high pitch, you may just attribute that to being a female voice, and therefore exclude pitch from from your accent attempt. However if you heard that everyone speaks with a high pitch, then you would be able to include that in your accent training.

Picking random American shows to learn an American accent, will only give you a stereotype accent. Picking shows that come from only one town or state, will give you a better accent that will reflect that area. Losing your native accent will likely never occur. It will become a merger of both your original and the new region.

I was born in North America. I picked up the accent by 4. I then moved to Australia. I have never lost the North American accent. I also have an Irish accent that comes from my father. I pronounce words as an Australian would, but will never say i have an Australian English accent. I can turn it on, but i don't. I just speak as i am.

To an American i am not American. To an Australian, i am not Australian. I don't sound Irish when in Ireland. When i am in none of these areas, people do not know where i am from. It's a total blend. My German however will be understood to be Southern German, because that is where i lived. My French is Swiss French, rather than French French or Canadian French, again because that is where i lived. The Irish comes from Dublin.

One can't study an accent from behind a desk. The only way you will pick it up is by immersion in a region. Don't waste your time trying to lose your accent history. It makes you a unique individual. It's a conversation piece. Embrace your accents folks. Travel the world and get out from behind the computer screens. Native and lived accents make you you.

@steel pilot

[finite sapphire]

very clear

"there are tones in chinese, but english doesn't" was one thing that struck me, because i suspect in your native this makes sense, maybe, cuz like i have a feeling that cantonese, same as japanese, likes to mark both "to have" and "to be" with the same word

有 is the character that comes to my mind when i mean "to have" and "to be" being the same word

but i dont know canto so sorry if am wrong, just my suspicions based on jp

[finite sapphire]

thats just nit-picking tho, you had the arguments and explained them logically

[river lance]

Hello Peo , how's it going? , i would like to know how do you got to aqcuire the languages, i would like arrive to understand english as well, i write a little bit the langague and i express by myself a bit , but at the time of begin to talk i become be muted 😦 , is my first langague , be mercy with me .

[muted heath]

Sitting in a voice chat, trying to learn a new language, does not work well from what i experience. I am starting a new language. I am in a server as big as English hub. There are 1000s of people speaking there also, but in that language, not English. There are lots of native speakers and they write big things like i am doing here.

As an absolute beginner i cannot read the text. I may use Google translate, but i am not learning to really read. I just need simple sentences.

For voice, i can join a chat room. Everyone is speaking the new language, but there are advanced and there are basic learners. As a basic, level, i do not even know when someone talks to me, and if i hear my name, i still don't understand the words.

Voice chat is good to hear the language. But if you can find 1 or 2 people of the same level to practice a scenario exercise and use the same exercises, then that is good. Exercises like
Ordering food
Catching the train or bus
Meeting people

In the end, learning basic verbs for everyday conversation is #1 I believe. Combined with pronouns, and pointing words such as this, that, there, here etc, will help get speaking started in real life. Also flash card vocabulary. It's fast and gives you words to use and understand.

@river lance

[river lance]

I read you

I have read you , thank you very much for answering me , have a nice day or evening , yea i will keep in mind .

[broken wadi]

Absolute beginners don't have to speak the language unless they really need to because they will have to use it soon. When you learn a language from scratch, you'll have to focus mainly on input skills and leave output to the later stages of your learning journey. That way you'll know what's correct and what's not just because you heard and read the correct expressions so many times, and learning to speak and write then becomes much more manageable.

Our brains are wired to pick up language from listening only. That's mostly why our first languages are always better than languages that we deliberately learn ourselves later in life because we relied on input for a very long time before we tried to express ourselves.

[muted heath]

I agree

[finite sapphire]

"always" is very incorrect

it is not always that your first language is your best one

some people forget their native, and literally learn another one, even if it takes them decades

(decades to reach a native level)

I mean the "extreme" approaches to languages, like people changing their citizenships, names, isolating from their native friends or family, and getting the input for decades from both media and real life

it is possible to "change" what language you are native in, it is just very difficult and time-consuming

It was already possible back in human history, even my ancestors, like great-grandparents, were not the same nationality as I am now, they switched from their native languages, forgetting them, to one i speak now, and became natives in new ones, even if it took them ~30 years (and that was way back in history, so with the modern technology we have now, like limitless hours of podcasts and books and even AI chatbots like now, easier access to lives in different countries, one could greatly reduce that time)

[arctic inlet]

chinese is a language based on tones rather than intonation. mandarin chinese has 4 tones whereas cantonese has 9, you must read the characters with the appropriate one, intonation is not that important or even nearly nonexistent

and on the contrary only intonation exists in english, that’s why i said that

[arctic inlet]

yeah you’re right

[harsh oasis]

My accent back in 2021. Can you guess where I am from?

[versed raptor]

Russia?? 🇷🇺

[harsh oasis]

yes!

hit the nail on the head

monotony and diphthongs were the things I had to work on

I sound more American now but I’m not quite there yet…

[broken wadi]

I agree

[gleaming prawn]

damnn i thought i can send voice message here

eh

[latent seal]

Hi

[shrewd orbit]

Help

[muted heath]

C

[shrewd orbit]

whyy not B

[river lance]

Judge my accent

[vagrant gust]

u didnt send an audio I can’t judge

[river lance]

https://tenor.com/view/boy-getting-scared-jumpscare-gif-23858258

Your name scared me

You don't need to guess, just say Indian or Turkish

[vagrant gust]

haha very sorry

||BOO||

[river lance]

And mostly indian

[vagrant gust]

?

[river lance]

Indian

[vagrant gust]

oh is that your accent or nationality?

[river lance]

Lol I didn't gave you chance to guess

Sorry

[river lance]

Both

[vagrant gust]

oh ok

[vagrant gust]

yeah I didn’t get to hear your accent :(

oh not that you have to show it

[river lance]

Your name is so scary that I can't face you 😭😭

Lol

[vagrant gust]

lol

[river lance]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-anakshie-gif-25892483

[vagrant gust]

bye

[muted heath]

'Officially' is an adverb and 'official' is an adjective. We are talking about the noun scrutiny, so it requires the adjective form.

[shrewd orbit]

Ohh i get it, thanks very much

[valid haven]

🙋‍♂️ looking for native English speaker for speaking practice in order to get rid of accent ENTIRELY

[muted heath]

"Entirely"... A life time partnership.

[valid haven]

🥲

[valid haven]

I was talking to someone the other day. he got rid of it in a matter of almost a year.
frequncy was 2-3 times a week. idk how long their calls used to last. it basically was during online gaming sessions.
and i don't play games🥲

[muted heath]

What scent do you think you have presently that you would like to replace. What type of accent are you looking for? @valid haven

[valid haven]

Indian accent. Need to replace it with British or Australian or American accent (in the given order of preference).

[hazy crag]

Hi! What should I work on? Is my accent particularly noticeable?

[sacred badger]

Depends on which accent you're aiming to aquire

[hazy crag]

I don't really want to learn an accent, it's more about being understood. As long as the original accent isn't too strong and doesn't get in the way of clarity, it's fine. Speaking of clarity, I kind of messed up the first phrase. But whatever, I'll work on that. What about the rest?

Oh yeah, and here are the paragraphs, if anyone's confused:

We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like "I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive..." And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about a hundred miles an hour with the top down to Las Vegas. And a voice was screaming: "Holy Jesus! What are these goddamn animals?"

Then it was quiet again. My attorney had taken his shirt off and was pouring beer on his chest, to facilitate the tanning process. "What the hell are you yelling about?" he muttered, staring up at the sun with his eyes closed and covered with wraparound Spanish sunglasses. "Never mind," I said. "It's your turn to drive." I hit the brakes and aimed the Great Red Shark toward the shoulder of the highway. No point mentioning those bats, I thought. The poor bastard will see them soon enough.

[sacred badger]

Your accent is fine

I can understand what you said

[muted heath]

Perhaps slow down a little (0.8). Chest... Practice ch. You sound it as shch. The r at the end of roar, shoulder, never needs enhancing. You were close to silent. Toward possibly could be broken as to-ward. Your sound was to-od. Need more "w" and "r". Also pronounce "g" at end of words (gu in throat). Currently close to silent. Understandable with your accent as is though except the red shark sentence. Good.

[hazy crag]

Yeah, I tend to drop "r" a lot. Thanks for the feedback, I'll work on it!

[river lance]

Hello

[full patrol]

dead channel eh

[full patrol]

any one here?

[full patrol]

judge my accent anyway

[finite sapphire]

american-vibes for me

not sure how much but that direction

[full patrol]

is it any good 😭

[finite sapphire]

it is clear

and it does sound more american than something else to me tbh

[full patrol]

on a scale of 1-10 what would u give me

[finite sapphire]

like am supposed to judge the accent, and being clear specifically? then i guess hm... maybe like 8 or more, i dont think it is 10, but it is good

[full patrol]

Thats great

yeah you can nitpick

and whatnot

like fix the way u say this or that

[finite sapphire]

better than mine i think, because in my case i tend to have blocked nose, and my voice gets weird because of that, I also did not study accents with a real attention, i just immersed and read a lot and studied

[full patrol]

music helps alot

[finite sapphire]

i like eminem too

[full patrol]

like ALOT

i've been listenin to him since i was like 12

[finite sapphire]

"godzilla" which is a classic but i still like it

[full patrol]

thats a good one

u should give The Eminem show a shot

amazing album

[finite sapphire]

i also recall "venom", "rap god" of course, umm, "kamikaze" maybe, and probably more but i dont remember things well

[full patrol]

venom is meh

the hook is bland

and obnoxious

anyway

thanks for the rating dude

[finite sapphire]

usually people come randomly and leave comments also randomly, so, a matter of luck

[full patrol]

I see

[muted heath]

So a second opinion. Yes, you definitely have an American accent there, noticable even before you mentioned that was your goal. I was going to say it's a southern US sound to it, but there is still what appears to be an underlying northern European accent rolling along with it. But i heard the us first. I'd say its 65/35 us/euro.

[full patrol]

so im good huh?

[muted heath]

Sure, quite good. It's not British by far.

[full patrol]

Great

[finite sapphire]

it seems like magic to me how well some people here can distinguish between the accents lol, like noticing that it was specifically with northern european influence and that it was southern american in particular

[full patrol]

Im from egypt btw if that makes any diff

[muted heath]

It's still roughly and subjectively a 65/35 US/egyptian accent then.

[full patrol]

Anything i should focus on improving?

[muted heath]

Let me listen again

[full patrol]

Okay

[muted heath]

I can't make any suggestions. I think you are in the right method to picking up that accent.

[full patrol]

Okay thanks btw

[muted heath]

You are picking up street talk though, so be careful if you plan to speak in formal situations.

[full patrol]

Got it

[vivid drift]

Got it

[valid haven]

compared to american native english speaker your accent is 75% identical.

[valid haven]

List of word pronunciations that didn't sound american to me:
guys, something, subject, basically, it, short, trying to, accent, sometimes, tell, bit,

[full patrol]

Thanks for the feedback

[river lance]

Hello! May I know what should I improve? Thank you.

This is the paragraph that I read.

I'm pretty much fucked.
That's my considered opinion.
Six days, into what should be the greatest month of my life, and it's turned into a nightmare.
I don't even even know who'll read this. I guess someone will find it eventually. Maybe a hundred years from now.
For the record...I didn't die on Sol 6. Certainly the rest of the crew thought I did, and I can't blame them. Maybe there'll be a day of national mourning for me, and my Wikipedia page wil say, "Mark Watney is the only human being to have died on Mars."

hey you pronounced it mostly correct

the most obvious mistake I noticed was you saying "read" incorrectly, because it sounds like you said "red" instead of "rēd" with the long e sound

I don't know if it's just the accent and not the pronunciation though

Oh and "fucked" lol - you left off the "-ed" sound at the end

Month also sounded a little off - didn't quite hear a "th" sound and just more of a "t" sound, but again that could just be accent and it's not necessarily a glaring mistake

[full patrol]

He sounds really good

[full patrol]

i sound a lil drowsy ik

https://voca.ro/1erIypWLHrqk

[full patrol]

This is me but a bit more relaxed than the last time

[novel hinge]

rate pls

[novel hinge]

someone listens to this and say

[muted heath]

You are totally understandable. You have a british oriented English accent (45%). But your native accent (65%) is still very pronounced and affected many of the words.

[full patrol]

Could someone listen to this and let me know if it's any better than last time?

[glacial prawn]

it is, indeed, more american sounding... the influence of your native accent is much less evident in the second recording, especially, in the pronunciation of the consonants

[full patrol]

good stuff

[river lance]

I see

Imma try it again ig

[full patrol]

(ik i said thanks for advance by mistake i meant to say in advance)

Rate it on a scale of 1-10

[strong quest]

Your accent is excellent! I'd give it an 8.

[full patrol]

Thanks homie ❤️

[polar forum]

7, pretty good but I can hear it slipping, solid accent overall

[full patrol]

You're absolutely right about it slipping at some points. I think it might be because this is somewhat new to me, so yeah, thanks for the feedback <3

[coarse yoke]

Mostly understandable and your voice is very nice

[coarse yoke]

Easy to understand and for me you don't sound at all like an Egyptian (8 out of 10).

[karmic locust]

impressive 8 out of 10 sounds very similar to an american accent

[river lance]

7.5/10

[full patrol]

"Where is my vodka and ak"

[icy narwhal]

@river lance Заебись

[wild forge]

https://voca.ro/15cxcCEUcsPI

[full patrol]

You sound real good and no your accent is not heavy at all

[wild forge]

Thaaank youuu

[full patrol]

anytime

[river lance]

owww moja dusa it's pretty good wow

I really like it

[muted heath]

It's a really good accent. I would not have known you were from anywhere in Europe. Not British though. If you walked into any place in usa, aus, nz, I doubt anyone would ask "where are you from". Perfect. The only word i could pick with a slight accent was 'Serbia', but that's just you pronouncing it correctly (which we all probably don't do )

[rigid jackal]

i think that girl left the server 💀

[full patrol]

https://vocaroo.com/1erIypWLHrqk

Better than last time?

[muted heath]

Yes, much more natural sounding now. Less native accent, and the southern drawl is mostly gone. Pleasing to the ear.

[full patrol]

Getting there huh

[muted heath]

Yes. You should be happy now. The nasal sound is just part of some places, so you could either leave it or remove it. It's your choice. Sounds fine now.

[full patrol]

I'll improve naturally ig

Thanks for the feedback ❤️

[fallen creek]

listened to both recordings, very impressive. In the second recording for me you sound like a native who either got banged in the head or just woke up lmao. In other words: near-perfect pronunciation but somewhat off word choices (which is something much easier to improve on)

[full patrol]

Made me laugh out loud

❤️

Also made my day

Thanks for the laugh

[broken charm]

Hi guys.

Is the r in the word "yesterday" pronounced?

like when you speak fast

[pliant aurora]

@full patrolYou sound slavic

[full patrol]

im arabic 💀

maybe in my first record i sounded slavic

[pliant aurora]

arab, arabic is the language 😄

[full patrol]

ik

how can a arabic person sound slavic

[pliant aurora]

cuz slavic languages have those same nasal vowel sounds

[full patrol]

also were you referring to the first or second record

[pliant aurora]

the last one

[full patrol]

do i sound real slavic 😭 ?

or just a lil

[pliant aurora]

ok maybe u sound a little arabic, hard to tell the difference. it's not much but oyu sound like a slav/arab living in the US

not native level to my ears but could pass for advanced certainly

[full patrol]

getting there eh

where are you from btw?

[pliant aurora]

sweden

i dont like reading out loud tho

[full patrol]

hmm

You sound real good

maybe just maybe close to native

Im no accent expert so take my feedback with a grain of salt

As I should with yours too

oh

@pliant aurora

you wanna listen to a newer record?

i just noticed some shit i said in this one and damn it does sound slavic af

[pliant aurora]

sure

[full patrol]

(ik i said thanks for advance by mistake i meant to say in advance)

also idk why the fuck did i do this like a yt intro 💀

[pliant aurora]

yeah now u dont sound slavic but u def sound middle eastern

[full patrol]

i'll take that 😭

any thing i should really focus on?

im all ears yk

@pliant aurora also for long have you been working on your accent?

and what was the process

[pliant aurora]

no process, i've talked like this since i was a kid

watched a lot of american tv as a kid

[full patrol]

oh

how old are you

[pliant aurora]

28

i did listen to ur clip again

[full patrol]

im still 16

so yeah

[full patrol]

What'd you notice

[pliant aurora]

@full patrolhttps://voca.ro/175tsyCnaD1l

i tried to imitate the sound you make

til kazakhstan isnt in the middle east

close enoiugh tho lol

[full patrol]

yeah lmao

oh shit that

some mf on reddit told me YEAH THAT SOUNDS GREAT KEEP DOING IT

[pliant aurora]

definitely don't do that, american english does have some nasal qualities

but not like that

not that zzzz sound, it's more like when you say and

many americans will say and like "ieuhnd"

hard to type it out lol

[full patrol]

im having a seizure trying to pronounce that

i get the point

so

is it better if i just continue what im doing

or try to watch vids and whatnot

[full patrol]

music,shows ytbers games chatting with fellas

[pliant aurora]

i dont know, it's kinda difficult. like i said, i dont even think i sound like a native and i'd like to think im pretty good, but i learned as a kid so that's cheating

record urself a lot

[full patrol]

yk this is super new to me so i think thats the main reason i sound unnatural mostly

[full patrol]

Then im cheating too lmao

i never watched a vid or studied english

It all just happened

[full patrol]

look

you do sound like a native

if i heard you randomly id guess you're a native

Alsoooo

How close would you say I am to sounding like a native?

one more thing

can you send a quick record of you saying "and" just to know what i should go for

[river lance]

i was wondering this, can i have any native-speaking volunteer to help me do a speaking test?

only for a feeew minutes nothing more

[full patrol]

https://voca.ro/19xe7vLKhEDd

@pliant aurora

[muted heath]

Yes it's pronounced even when fast. But some people don't.

[muted heath]

This was the best

[full patrol]

so speaking as natural as possible is the best way to go about it

[muted heath]

This one has a bit of American and also your native accent is clear at times.

[full patrol]

this one not so much?

talking about the native accent

[muted heath]

This one exaggerated the nasal. But you have it at the start without adding it.

[full patrol]

hmm

gotta work out the nasal problem

seems like its abit major

[muted heath]

There is a lot of native in this.

[full patrol]

i did relisten to it

and god

i sound awful

so much stuff i messed up in it

we learn from our mistakes ig

also

Can i send you a record of someone to judge?

[muted heath]

Just talk as you think the American accent is to you. It had some nasal, but it's just the voice at the back upper throat. It's not bad. You don't need to reduce the nasal. But don't add anymore.

[full patrol]

this

I don't know if that's just me, but I feel like he adds the 'ou' sound to everything

super exaggerated also

I don't think i sound better than him but he's obv doing smt wrong

maybe i do i have no idea 💀

[pliant aurora]

he's overdoing it,

he sounds a bit like those arabs on tiktok

the ones imitating an american accent

but gibberish

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5C8SputXvFM

@full patrol

[full patrol]

lmao

yeah those ones

those rich cunts

[full patrol]

thats how rich people who speak english sound like here

[muted heath]

The problem is, it's a mixed bag of all sorts of American accents. Every few words and it's switching to another stereotype or area. There is even California girl in it.

North America is very large. There are scores of major accents and hundreds of sub types. A natural scent is picked up by living and experiencing a region in person and learning the pronunciation of the people of that region by listening to them. This cannot be done easily from av remote location. Listening to movies does not give a person a single scent to focus on. It gives hundreds of examples of the continent as a whole, but not a single accent of a hero of people living there.

I lived in my birth country for 6 years. I have had that accent my whole life, decades. I've lived in another English country but while I went to school in the second country, never could naturally just speak without thinking and sound like I was from that country. Almost every person I have ever met in my life asks, where are you from, because my accent is not of the country i live in. It is also not recognized by people from my birth country. This means i have picked up some of my second country accent and blended it with my birth accent.

I have never met someone here who came from another country that has a natural accent of this land. The birth/original accent will always underpin your pronunciation.

[pliant aurora]

@muted heathnot necessarily, my native accent doesnt "underpin" my american english accent

might be some hints of it in there but you wouldn't be able to pinpoint my native accent

[muted heath]

Would i be absolutely convinced you were living there your whole life?

[pliant aurora]

I don't know,

https://vocaroo.com/175tsyCnaD1l

i did post this above

i've never been to teh us tho, much less lived there

[muted heath]

Has no 'foreign' accent in your voice?