#🗒|pronunciation

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peak void
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are there any books recommended to improve accent?

slow granite
steel shore
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Sorry, I couldn't join at that time since it was 1:35 AM for me

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I really hate timezones 💢

compact sand
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Why ppl judge ppl 😭

prisma locust
gilded path
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Otherwise you won't improve

keen pilot
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This channel is meant to help improve people’s accent and it’s voluntary.

mental marten
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Here's a little problem: when I speak English, my native language (Russian) makes itself known to everyone, and so, sometimes, I have a little problem with pronouncing the letter "R" - it is heard more clearly than necessary. Can this be fixed?

P.S. - i got the same problem with other letters too...

river lance
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This problem happens to me too, because I also speak Slavic language

river lance
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Serbian cat_Sip

mental marten
river lance
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Don't worry too much about your accent as long as your pronunciation is clean and people can understand you clearly:)

versed raptor
mental marten
pastel gull
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What you can do to find the perfect gap is use a voice recorder, just say out some words and see if the R is clear enough yet not too strong

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Hope it'll help

hollow pawn
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Hi where i can join a conversation

raw nova
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Apparently, you had joined a conversation.

river lance
lavish walrus
inland meteor
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wootah

river lance
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😆😆

frigid light
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Hi, I'm new in discord, can u help me?
How I can chat with others ?

stoic bridge
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I suppose you can also ask people on the discussion channels if you want to chat with specific people

tropic rampart
pseudo plank
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Honestly sounds like a native

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(Coming from a native speaker)

stray depot
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I’d say pretty close to a native!

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The accent is pretty

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You sound like KingChris from YT

tropic rampart
stray depot
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there isn't a specific way to sound native bc everyone has an accent, but as long as your intonation and pronunciation is understandable, you're good to go!

tropic rampart
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I'd like to sound just like a native speaker though.

stray depot
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What I believe is that people create their own native speaker accent

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from their own voice

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but if you want to sound native, I'd say work on intonation

tropic rampart
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can I dm you?

stray depot
spice beacon
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Thanks in advance for your opinion🙂

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"Inside the center, it was like stepping into a scene from hell.
It was packed, mostly with dogs and their owners, most of whom seemed to be young teenage blokes with skinhead haircuts and aggressive tattoos.
Seventy per cent of the dogs were Staffordshire Bull Terriers that had almost certainly been injured in fights with other dogs, probably for people’s amusement."

river lance
river lance
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10/10 in my opinion, no need to change anything

tropic rampart
river lance
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I'm rating what I hear, i.e., your voice in your accent

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😩🤌

tropic rampart
spice beacon
wide lodge
river lance
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🤣 she s a native

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Lmao😂

wide lodge
sonic jacinth
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Anyone is learning American accent? Please let me join u too

keen pilot
sonic jacinth
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I will try to be friends with them

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hope they dont judge my accent cause its so weird

river lance
sonic jacinth
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but ill be chad fs

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#PatricBateman

river lance
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Ma man

sonic jacinth
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haha

maiden dock
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I want to practice my english speaking I have got my IELTS exam on 9th. Is anyone free for a gossip?

sonic jacinth
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im studying ri8 now

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once im free jus lemme know

undone escarp
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what do I sound Like

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?

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im a Artist x Producer

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need some feedback

river lance
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Lol if ur asking about accent it's obviously perfect

pearl whale
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I want to practice my English for my job interview. Is anyone interested in giving me some tips and tricks for the interview that would be very helpful

river lance
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Message me and we can arrange a time to go over tips and help prepare for your interview

river lance
deft python
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Hey I’m a native speaker who always seemed to struggle with saying the letter “r”

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Any help/advice? Seen a lot of YouTube videos on the tongue placement but I can’t seem to figure it out

sonic jacinth
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help w my accent

subtle valley
river lance
river lance
# deft python Any help/advice? Seen a lot of YouTube videos on the tongue placement but I can’...
steel shore
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Sorry for the annoying static..

desert iron
spice beacon
regal sand
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Can u rate his pronunciation?

river lance
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No I'm good looking and was raised right💪😤

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Give to charity lol

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As i said nooo😤😤

river lance
hot imp
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Hi guys

mint tundra
# regal sand

as an american it doesnt move trtowards casual accent

river lance
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To Leon Werth
I apologize to the children for dedicating this book to a grown-up. I have a good excuse: this grown-up is the best friend I have in the world. I have another good excuse: this grown-up can understand everything, even children's books. I have a third good excuse: this grown-up lives in France where he is hungry and cold. He needs to be comforted. If all these excuses are not enough, I will then dedicate this book to the child who became that grown-up. All grown-ups were first children. (But few of them remember it.) So | correct my dedication:
To Leon Werth
when he was a little boy.

mint tundra
river lance
# mint tundra That, was very well. For an American English style that moves far into the categ...

Thanks, but what do you mean by “that moves far into the category.” I’m trying to understand, I looked up on internet this sentence, or something like that and it doesn’t make sense so far. Seems you’re saying that it’s far and at the same time near. I mean… “far”, “into” in the same sentence. ( I’m just trying to understand in order to capture your criticism and improve myself ).

lean wolf
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lol my american accent is very bad

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all the people know that I'm french

river lance
# river lance Too fast lol

Sorry, it was the 88th of 104 from the same paragraph, so I was quite impatient at the time. And…obviously, tell me about the accent.

river lance
mint tundra
steel shore
cosmic oxide
river lance
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a little off but pretty good

ebon remnant
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i will be sending my voice record in few minutes

sudden crystal
opal sparrow
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Why is my message getting deleted?

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Well, damn

carmine wing
glad oracle
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you dont sound like a foreigner

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if you hadnt started w "im from the philippines" i wouldnt know at all

left widget
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how do you guys have the courage to send your voicemails like that in terms of being uncomfortable with the accent😳

river lance
plain dove
signal marsh
river lance
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I might need a native speaker soon to judge my accent please, preferably in voice chat, I don't like sending recordings. 🙏

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Or I can send something but in private only.

keen pilot
river lance
river lance
pallid fractal
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What do you think about my accent....... I receive all the comments 👀👌🏾

forest gust
pallid garnet
# sudden crystal

Not bad @sudden crystal if I’m nitpicking (a month from now) was were I could tell you weren’t from the states. Also no one in the states says cheers . But you definitely have the y’all down. You had a mix between Texas and British lingo strong 💪

slow lotus
# sudden crystal

Yoo dude can you tell me what you did to get rid of your accent if you don't mind me asking?

somber flax
# sudden crystal

You have a really cute accent.

You should work on your /θ/ when saying "the" and "this" ("this voice message"), but when you say "month" it sounds fine to me

When you say "to" in "to the States" you could make that /t/ a little more aspirated

Your "in" in "in a month from now" sounds a bit like /ɛ/ as in the word "tell"

When you say "fares up" the "up" has a vowel that sounds like the /ɔ/ vowel in "torn" even though in General American English it should be /ɑ/ as in the word "mom" (although idk which accent you're going for)

When you say "English speaker" you fail to transition from /ʃ/ as in "sugar" to /s/ as in speaker and that's problematic. With only /ʃ/, you could say "English peaker", and then the p should be aspirated. But with /s/, you say "English speaker" and then the p isn't aspirated (just like you pronounced it) because s removes aspiration from the following k, p, t consonant

I hope you find this helpful. You could try rerecording it with these tips in mind.

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Also, "I'm" doesn't usually need to be stressed. You don't need to say /a(ɪ)m/, you can say /əm/

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But the way you stress your words was mostly on point, so good job on that.

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One part I find particularly impressive is the way you say "a month from now"

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"from" is unstressed, as it should be

somber flax
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Here's my take on that passage. Note that I'm not a native speaker

somber flax
# sudden crystal

oh one more thing, when you say "if it fares up" you try to link "it" and "fares" with a /d/ sound. That is indeed a common thing that happens, like for example "it is" is often /ɪdɪz/

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hhhhowever

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You can only do that when the following sound is a VOWEL sound

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If you listen to my recording then what I did is I separated them with a glottal stop

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So usually when a word ends in /t/ and you wanna link it to the next word, if the next word starts with a vowel sound it turns into a /d/, like "it is" or "cat ears", but if the next word starts with a consonant sound then it turns into a glottal stop, like "it does" or "cat paws"

bronze smelt
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Hi! My name is Nathalie i am from France. I need a native speaker to help me with my video project.
I have to shoot a short film about myself for college and my english has to be perfect with a good accent. I have a script of one page that I can send in DM and I need someone to read it ( one page only ) record it and send it to me. It would be grateful for the person who could help me.

pallid fractal
acoustic marsh
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hiya!!

slow lotus
keen pilot
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You can record an audio file and then post the link

somber flax
# acoustic marsh

I think the most important thing you should focus on is paying very close attention to which words to stress. In the first sentence, "Five months ago I moved to the US with my family" you give every syllable almost equal (and quite strong) stress. These are the syllables you should be stressing:

Five months ago I moved to the US with my family

Even though some syllables in that sentence should be given less stress, it was still very much understandable. But when you say "now it looks like I'm stuck here for quite a while" it's much harder to understand because you seem to give almost no stress to any of the words (and you're missing the m in I'm)

Here's how that sentence should be stressed:

Now it looks like I'm stuck here for quite a while

When you say "speech", it sounds like /'spiːʃ/ even though it should be /ˈspiːt͡ʃ/. So perhaps you might wanna practice the /t͡ʃ/ sound with words like "peach", "beach" and "reach".

When you say "if there are" you're missing the /f/ in /ɪf/

To give you some positive feedback as well, you did really well on "Originally I'm from Ukraine", because you stress "Originally" and then "I'm" and "from" are unstressed and the first syllable of "Ukraine" is also unstressed, as it should be.

I think your vowels are surprisingly on point so I wouldn't worry too much about perfecting individual sounds, rather I would focus more on practicing what words to stress in a sentence

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I would record some examples for you but it's almost 5 am where I live and I'm at my parents' house

slow lotus
somber flax
# slow lotus https://voca.ro/1oU2LRqjBQPU

I would give you the same recommendation as I did to hamabuntha, work on sentence level stress first and foremost because I think it's one of the most important things to get right

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Here's a cleaned-up version of your script. I've bolded all the syllables that you should stress. Note that the final "thank you" is totally optional and it's more of a stylistic choice to stress "you", but I thought it would give your speech a little more variation

Alright guys so this is me, trying to put on a fake accent. And yeah, I hope you guys could give me some feedback about how I sound and everything. Uh yeah, let me know if there's something I can work on or some sort of exercise that could help me out. Thank you, and thank you for listening.

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You could also say "Thank you, and thank you for listening" and that would be totally fine

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In this recording I speak very slowly and I've exaggerated the stress a little bit. I think when you practice it's good to exaggerate an effect to really get a feel for what's going on

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If you wanted to, you could stress "some" in "some sort of exercise", but you don't have to, and I chose not to.

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here's me reading out the same passage more or less normally

slow lotus
somber flax
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I was just born this way 😎

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jk

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I mean I have a recording of when I was 14 and it sounded surprisingly good

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idk how I did it

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I mean it wasn't like... good. But it was like... good.

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you know what I mean

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maybe I could try to find the clip for you

slow lotus
slow lotus
somber flax
somber flax
slow lotus
somber flax
# somber flax This was 5 and a half years ago (I had just turned 14)

Sabine Hossenfelder is a German theoretical physicist who makes interesting science videos on YouTube and I would say that I was around on par with her at age 14 with my accent. Maybe she's a little more well-spoken than I was but the difference isn't huge. And I think that's kinda funny

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I don't wanna make it sound like 14 year old me had a great accent cuz he didn't didn't but you can tell that he has a decent grasp on all the sounds of the English language, has some familiarity with linking words together, sounds distinctly more American than British and is at least unconsciously aware of which words to stress in a sentence

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My worst enemy was, and still kind of is, the /z/ sound. You can see it's mostly absent from the recording

slow lotus
somber flax
somber flax
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so somehow I think it's easier to talk "normally" than it is to talk really slowly because when you talk slowly your brain lacks the phonological context that helps you determine whether you need to make an s voiced

slow lotus
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somber flax
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cuz that one little voiced s was not relevant to the larger point I was trying to make

slow lotus
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YEA istg if i had voice like yours I'd go nd become a voiceover artist 😭

somber flax
slow lotus
somber flax
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but really I think it's the type of thing that you learn best by just practicing it, yeah

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like listening to a native speaker speak and perhaps writing it down on a piece of paper and then underlining the syllables that are stressed

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Note that stress isn't just about where to speak a little louder, it also affects the pronunciation of certain words like have, for, in, and, if, them, him, etc.

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idk if you're familiar with IPA but the schwa sound is very common in unstressed syllables

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all vowels secretly wanna turn into a schwa

slow lotus
slow lotus
slow lotus
somber flax
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I hate being at my parents' house cuz if I wanna record something then I need to record it on my phone and then upload it to icloud drive and then download it from there

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but basically

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You know the sound in her

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for, when it's not stressed, becomes sorta like fur, with the "her" vowel

slow lotus
somber flax
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  • How long have you been doing it for? (stressed)
  • I've been doing it for (unstressed, "fur") ages.
slow lotus
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Ahhhhhhh

somber flax
slow lotus
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I seeee! What Chu mean
Like when the syllable is stressed it is a clear sound
But when it's not stressed it's sorta sounds like a
Uh

somber flax
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yeah exactly

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It's the same with can

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  • Do you think we can (unstressed, schwa sound) do it?
  • I think we can! (stressed)
slow lotus
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AHHH that makes so much more sense cuz I'd watch alot of movies nd stuff
Nd I'd listen to guys nd be like
He said fur there but i say it sounds different

somber flax
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One rule is that if you have one of these words that has a stressed and an unstressed form then it's always stressed if it's the last word of the sentence.

"How long have you been doing it for"
"I think we can"

slow lotus
somber flax
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unstressed = /'k(ə)n/
stressed = /'kæn/

slow lotus
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dude you are really helpful istg ☠️

somber flax
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I'm glad :)

slow lotus
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Do you hold the tip your tongue in middle of your teeth when you say L , T ND N in a word for example in apple
When you say the L what's your tongue position ?@somber flax

somber flax
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sorry I was out brushing my teeth, I'm back now

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When I say "apple" my tongue never touches my teeth

slow lotus
somber flax
# somber flax One rule is that if you have one of these words that has a stressed and an unstr...

I need to clarify this a little bit because clearly it doesn't apply to all words, I think it only applies to auxiliary verbs (can, might, do, etc.) and prepositions (for, to, etc.).

A pronoun at the end of a sentence is so normal that it's not automatically stressed. "Have you found him? (unstressed)"

But of course it can be if there's good reason for it to be stressed, like "Is that him?"

somber flax
# slow lotus It's fine you can reply later if you are busy :). Well then where's your tongue...

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slow lotus
somber flax
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Everything except for "apple" sounded great

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Try to focus on the second vowel of "apple", it's the same vowel sound as in "truck" but just unstressed

slow lotus
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So the ple is unstressed?

somber flax
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yes

slow lotus
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Is it okay now ???

somber flax
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now it sounds a lot better

slow lotus
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Before i was saying LULLLL now it's now more lal .
It really is all about the stress rhythm ☠️☠️

somber flax
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I still think the second vowel is a little off, it sounds a bit like the /ʊ/ vowel in "book"

slow lotus
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Hmmmm okay leme see

somber flax
slow lotus
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How's your day btw

somber flax
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I think you make the "book" vowel in the third one

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and it's far more noticeable than in the first recording

slow lotus
somber flax
slow lotus
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The L sound Hmmmm

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Should I try again

somber flax
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I don't think it's about the L sound, I think it's about the second vowel sound, the schwa sound

slow lotus
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Apple
æ pehl

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ˈæpə͡l

somber flax
slow lotus
somber flax
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it's 2 syllables, not 3

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I think you say it perfectly at 0:16 and 0:18 and 0:19

slow lotus
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Ahhhh finally

somber flax
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Now one thing you could try to do is make the /p/ a little aspirated

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If you hold a piece of paper in front of your mouth then it should move a little when you say the second syllable of "apple"

slow lotus
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OH

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You mean like puff out a lil bit more air when i say the p

somber flax
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yeah

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exactly

slow lotus
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Better or worse ?

somber flax
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The aspirated /p/ sounds great

slow lotus
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So you think the word sounds good now ???

somber flax
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yeah it's good

slow lotus
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TY!

craggy widget
somber flax
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oh yeah true

craggy widget
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It sounds too much like a regular l (as in "like")

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That's the main problem I hear

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Also

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The /p/ in apple is usually not aspirated or only barely aspirated in American accents

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In contrast to a word like "pull" where it is strongly

slow lotus
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craggy widget
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The first time you say it, you used [b] instead of [p]

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Overall the l still needs to be darker though

somber flax
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It's definitely far more aspirated than the /t/ in the word "spleen"

slow lotus
somber flax
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and I've never heard of there being "varying levels of aspiration" beyond, of course, there being stressed and unstressed syllables

slow lotus
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Are you studying this as a subject or something ?

somber flax
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nah, it's just a hobby of mine

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slow lotus
somber flax
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somber flax
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can you give an example?

craggy widget
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It's true in onset and in clusters like that of "spleen" sure

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Sure

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They aren't aspirating the p, yet it does not sound like "dabber" at all

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Intervocalically the voicing distinction is clear enough to set the two phonemes apart

craggy widget
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Contrast that to the British speaker at the top, who does aspirate that /p/

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So it depends on dialect as well

somber flax
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that's super interesting

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why is not aspirated in "dapper"

craggy widget
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Unstressed again

somber flax
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and "supper"

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but there it's truly unaspirated unlike in apple

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is it because of the rhotic schwa?

slow lotus
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So no puffing out air in apple ?

somber flax
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but I guess "only slightly"

craggy widget
somber flax
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well shit

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this is huge for me

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I'm surprised, amazed, and extremely curious

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The speaker who aspirates it sounds like she's quite old

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so this is kinda awkward cuz I don't wanna sound like I'm old haha

slow lotus
somber flax
slow lotus
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😂brooooo

somber flax
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wait no

somber flax
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and she doesn't sound old at all

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wait no

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ok now I'm going insane

slow lotus
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MHM

somber flax
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I feel like I hear exactly what I wanna hear

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this is difficult, I think I need speech analysis software or something

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Wiktionary transcribes "apple" without aspiration

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so maybe unstressed syllables aren't aspirated and that's it?

slow lotus
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Are you sureeee????

somber flax
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I don't think I aspirate the /p/ when I say "aspirated"

slow lotus
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ˈæpə͡l

somber flax
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p is such a bad example because even if you don't aspirate it you still gotta let out some air

slow lotus
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Aep - el

somber flax
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If I say "clutter" then the /t/ isn't aspirated for sure

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and it might be because it's an unstressed syllable

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wow this is cool

slow lotus
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Maybe ppl say apple differently yk

craggy widget
somber flax
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that's so wild, I love it

slow lotus
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Should I ask another question
How do guys say "Mate" ?

craggy widget
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It's not a super strict rule though like you heard with the lady who aspirated apple

somber flax
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I'm actually not super good with these things but I'm trying to learn so that I can better help other people with their accents

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cuz I used to always get these people who came up to me like "yo please tell me how you do that, what's your trick" and I'd be like "idk, magic" cuz I didn't understand English phonology

slow lotus
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Do you want to be an accent coach

somber flax
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I think that would be a cool part time job although I'm not sure if there's any demand for that in Finland

slow lotus
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Probably not in Finland but yk you can start some sorta of online business nd ppl from all around the world can contact you

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Leme look up if y'all guys have an accent or not

somber flax
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sounds a little elaborate, and also I wouldn't market myself as a "good" accent coach that everyone from all over the world should count on, I would market myself as a "good enough" accent coach who could help Finnish people especially well cuz Finnish is my native language

slow lotus
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@slow lotus this is what I'm talking about with the dark l https://vocaroo.com/1bysFDYsSzAe
You can skip to just the last like 3 seconds if all you want to hear is the difference between not dark and dark

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I do ramble sometimes lol

somber flax
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I feel so stupid for not picking up on that sooner

craggy widget
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Don't feel stupid lol there are so many little details, nobody can possibly know all of them from the start

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I'm still learning things about my own accent

somber flax
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when I linked the rachel's english video I actually watched it and I was like "yup, yeah, so it occurs when you have an l at the end of a syllable, I got it" and went on with my day, not thinking it could make such a dramatic impact on how "apple" sounds cuz typically you don't hear it pronounced wrong you just hear it pronounced right

slow lotus
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Like this ??

somber flax
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I think the vowel is important too

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it's weird how when I said it slowly the aspirated /p/ just popped out

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but I don't think I aspirate it when I say it normally

slow lotus
somber flax
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I'm done giving advice for today because clearly I don't know what I'm talking about but I still don't find it entirely implausible that the vowel is the bigger problem

slow lotus
somber flax
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nah I'm not leaving in that sense 👀 would be cool if Alc came back with their input

slow lotus
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I mean we can ping him

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Should we ?

craggy widget
somber flax
craggy widget
# somber flax

The "light" l you use after ~0:30 is pretty much just as dark as the one you used at the start

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There's a difference sure

somber flax
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i dunno man

slow lotus
craggy widget
somber flax
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this is driving me nuts

slow lotus
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Likeeee

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Dod you compare

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The

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Wait that sounds so weird

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When you said it witj a light L

lavish patio
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In order to produce the dark L sound, you have to put the back/middle of ur tongue closer to the top of your mouth and the tip of ur tongue should be against ur teeth when pronouncing the sound

lavish patio
# slow lotus https://voca.ro/1jsavmjVMxEo

When you pronounce the last syllable of the word, it sounds like you pronounce it more to front of your mouth or middle (like going down) if that makes sense?? Whereas native speakers pronounce it more to the back of their mouths

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Yh i think it definitely has to do with ur tongue (the middle/back not going up)

somber flax
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I isolated your vowels. Now idk if you're a native speaker, I don't think either one of your vowels is exactly a schwa, but when you try to pronounce it correctly it sounds a lot closer to a schwa than it does when you don't

If you don't make the same vowel sound in both demonstrations then in what universe is that a fair comparison?

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again, I make the argument that the biggest thing separating those two is actually NOT the L but rather the vowel sound right before it

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but then again, what do I know. I could be wrong

slow lotus
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Apple

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Tool cool fool etc

wild raven
somber flax
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You could try saying

with them
math thing
within
without
that way the "th" is less in isolation and it might be easier to judge

versed raptor
craggy widget
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It is still true though that SSQ's ls are a noticeable way from being properly dark, and if you don't believe that my ears are working properly when I say that, perhaps you'll believe spectrograms

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Each group of 3 starts with one of SSQ's, then 2 from native speakers

somber flax
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I'm actually trying to learn about spectrogram analysis at the moment

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Here's the "call" section of that file, formants shown

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The lowest 2 formant lines for the native speakers are squished right down, opening up a kind of dead space in the middle range

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That's the effect of darkening the l

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But in the first (SSQ) clip, they actually diverge instead

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And for "fool":

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Less pronounced but basically the same deal, you can even see the completely white mid areas in the last 2

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I'm not going to clutter the chat by posting all of them lol

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But feel free to open the clip in Praat and play around

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In the case of "apple", you can also check the initial vowel to see how much of a difference that makes

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The first vowel (slight diphthong really) of the second native "apple" clip matches SSQ's very well

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So it seems very unlikely that's the problem

somber flax
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I never claimed the first vowel was the problem

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I claimed that the problem was the second vowel

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this is super cool and I don't wanna sound like I'm disrespecting your hard work, again I think it's super neat and I'll look more into it tomorrow (it's 5 AM in Finland and no, I did not wake up early) but even though a spectrogram can show you that something's wrong it can't directly tell you what part of the word sounds "the most wrong" and what they should particularly focus on, like I'm pretty sure when you look at the spectrogram for "call" the vowel is a bit off too, and I guess it's sort of subjective whether fixing the dark L or the vowel sound would make the biggest difference but either way I don't think that's something that a spectrogram can tell you directly

craggy widget
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It's a syllabic dark l

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Give or take a little wiggle

somber flax
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We could talk about the other vowels if you like but I wanted to go 1 thing at a time

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Not make my wall of text any larger lol

craggy widget
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The first has syllabic dark l for the syllable nucleus, the second has light

somber flax
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It's still 2 syllables, but the 2nd syllable has the /l/ as its nucleus

somber flax
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isn't the nucleus always a vowel sound?

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like in this case, a schwa

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I could be totally off track here

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I'm really no expert I'm just confused

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I'm gonna cry my eyes out in the morning if I don't go to sleep right now...

craggy widget
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Phonetically not so much

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There's just not a schwa there

somber flax
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you know what that's actually quite believable

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cuz if I imagine the typical realization of the almighty schwa and try to force it in there then it kinda doesn't make any sense

craggy widget
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And in fact if you stick "apple" into Wiktionary

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We have a narrow transcription that has only a dark l with the syllabic marker underneath

somber flax
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if it's not helpful to think of the schwa as being there then why is it included in the broad transcription?

craggy widget
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Convenience for phonotactics pretty much

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It's nice to say "every syllable has a vowel as its nucleus" and not then have to say "except actually ..."

somber flax
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sounds like a terrible justification

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thanks for ruining phonology for me

craggy widget
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No problem

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Ok good night I will stop keeping you up lmao

somber flax
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aww

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okay fair enough

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thank you for being so considerate

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have a good rest of your day, enjoy your daylight

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wait no

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you're from the UK

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and not the US

craggy widget
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Yep my sleep schedule is nearly as bad

somber flax
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you still have time to have it not be as bad as mine

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good luck

craggy widget
# craggy widget It's nice to say "every syllable has a vowel as its nucleus" and not then have t...

(there are actually good reasons, like every syllabic consonant in English comes ultimately from its regular equivalent for one, and also that in most cases they're phonetically identical. If you write /n/ and /n̩/ then you're saying to the reader "these two things are perceived as different underlying sounds by speakers of the language" which is,,, not wrong actually but it's that really annoying kind of right that's honestly overly pedantic for a transcription that's not even meant to represent sounds with full accuracy - certainly more complex than just writing /n/ and /ǝn/)

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I sleep now

slow lotus
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I tried streaching the UL sound few times too

somber flax
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here's a spectrogram of SSQ, a native speaker (from Alc's recording) and me

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I have absolutely no clue how I'm supposed to analyze that lmao

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it kinda seems like my L is even darker than that of the native speaker's which is kinda interesting

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maybe I should get more native speaker clips to gain a better understanding

slow lotus
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Here i tried imitating you stipendi

somber flax
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idk if I'm the person you should be trying to imitate lol

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here I've got 5 apples, the first one being mine

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the rest of them are pronounced by native US speakers

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I hope my bad mic quality doesn't affect the spectrogram, I really don't have any experience with these

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maybe I'll try recording myself with my phone mic

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ohh right

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the reason I didn't do that initially is because audacity doesn't natively support m4a files

slow lotus
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# somber flax

All of these sound similar to me
The difference is just the audio quality nothing else atleast i think so

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so maybe a that's a good thing idk

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The spectrogram shows that my apple is the most similar to the fourth speaker

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and just by listening to it I'm definitely compelled to agree

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I do think mic quality might affect things because I think the fourth speaker has a very similar /æ/ sound. And by "similar" I mean it's kind of a clusterfuck

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and I also think she has the worst microphone out of all the clips I found

somber flax
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now I added an apple that I recorded on my phone which has a slightly better microphone

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I wonder what those little hooks correspond to

slow lotus
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What's the conclusion

somber flax
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I don't know

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The only reasonable conclusion I can make is that phonetics is hard

slow lotus
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Hmm icic

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I'd like if you guys rate my american accent, also I would appreciate if you point out some mistakes I might've made while speaking, that helps me a ton improving.

vestal fable
somber flax
# river lance

you should double check that you're pronouncing "enthusiasm" the way you want to

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idk if you've been reading the previous conversations here but good job on the way you stress words

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the fact that you stress "she" is a bit jarring but other than that I think it's pretty solid

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you don't need to stress "a" in "a woman"

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also most ppl nowadays have the cot caught merger which means you might wanna double check that you're pronouncing "on" the way you want to

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When you say "with her luck" it sounds like "with our luck"

river lance
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@somber flax Thank you so much, ok I'll work more on myself to rectify my pronunciation. 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜

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# river lance

also something about the word delighted is off i think

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merry crow
somber flax
# merry crow

When you say "think of it" your schwa is a bit off and your /v/ feels a bit weak

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When you say "for this script" your pronunciation of "for" doesn't reflect the fact that it's unstressed

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Have (unstressed) you done it? Yes I have. (stressed)
Can (unstressed) you do it? Yes I can. (stressed)
How long have you been doing it for? (stressed) For (unstressed) too long.
I know that (unstressed) it's not that big of a deal. I don't know about that. (stressed)
Are (unstressed) they crazy? Yes they are! (stressed)

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(it contains other words as well because I originally recorded it for someone else)

merry crow
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no problem

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I think your /u/ in "movie" should be a little different (I think closer to a front vowel?) and again your /v/ is a bit weak

merry crow
somber flax
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when you say "weight" I hear a /v/

merry crow
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well you can also hear word stress in vocal intensity and I think you do very well in that regard

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When you say "tell her to" you should pronounce "tell her" as "teller" because an unstressed "her" is just a /ɚ/

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and I would also recommend that you flap your t

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just like in "get off [the couch]"

merry crow
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wait- that's quite complicated

somber flax
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when you say "get off the couch" your /t/ sounds a lot like a [d]

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and that's not a mistake

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it's called t flapping

merry crow
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I GET IT NOW! it happens when /t/ is between two vowels

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interesting

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i've heard people flap T in "interesting" as well though... kinda like "inneresting", is that an american thing?

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When you say "go out for" I'd recommend pronouncing the /t/ with a glottal stop because generally an unstressed /t/ before a vowel sound is flapped ("get off") while an unstressed /t/ before a consonant sound is pronounced as a glottal stop ("go out for")

somber flax
merry crow
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yeah

somber flax
merry crow
somber flax
merry crow
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you were a great help ngl

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no problem

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you can use the arrows underneath the video to see more examples

merry crow
somber flax
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It is a really good resource, I'm glad you like it

loud raft
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Hey how can i learn more English slangs which are generally used on movies or shows so that i can understand them better
Is there any specific book or some other resource for this?

river lance
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@loud raft There are some websites

unborn drum
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i'm not able to upload my audio file here.

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<@&852814479569059840> can anyone help me ?

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i tried uploading one file.

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but its not showing up here after getting uploaded

dusk cypress
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You can ow

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Now

unborn drum
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ok

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i did it again but its still not showing up

craggy widget
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You can use vocaroo if raw files won't work

unborn drum
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dire zenith
craggy widget
# unborn drum

Pretty good over all :) certainly very understandable
Some points:

0:00 - "In 1776" has weird intonation, I don't know how to describe it in text
0:01 - "there" you used [d] for th. This happens for almost every other voiced th in the recording so I'll only mention it once
0:05 - In "many of these people", "many" sounded like "mini" and "these" has too much stress on it
0:07 - "ancestor" is stressed on the 1st syllable, not the 2nd
0:09 - "people in dare family like a parents or da grandparents", what words are meant to be before "parents" and "grandparents"?
0:14 - "were" sounded a little too much like "wear". Should just be "wr" like there's no vowel in the middle
0:15 - Grammatically this part should be "people who already lived in the US" but I'm not hearing the d at all. Also "US" is stressed on the 2nd syllable, not the 1st
0:18 - "belong to many" sounded like "belong, too many". "to" should be reduced to /tə/
0:19 - The diphthong of "tribes" began too far forward so it sounds somewhere between the FACE and PRICE diphthongs
0:19 - I couldn't hear the s in "groups"
0:29 - "the" should be /ðǝ/, i.e. not "thee"
0:31 - There was no /æ/ raising in "thanks", which is odd because you did it very well in language. & "thanksgiving" is stressed on the 2nd syllable
0:33 - You rounded the first vowel in "holiday". It should be more or less the vowel in e.g. "hot", optionally a little further back, but not rounded is the main thing
0:44 - You used voiceless th /θ/ in "this" (it was a perfectly good /θ/! just in the wrong place sadly)
0:45 - I couldn't hear the s in "Americans"
0:48 - "friends" sounded like "frence". It's fine to drop the /d/ but you have to still use /z/ and not /s/, and the vowel should be slightly longer

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The main two points are:

  • You're using [d] for th. You neeeed to have your tongue make proper contact with your upper front teeth. You don't have to push your tongue between your teeth (you can if you want), but you do need that contact. It'll also help if you make it a fricative (constant hissing sound instead of a sudden release) or an affricate (sudden release immediately into a hiss), although for many Americans, just making it dental is enough to change it from /d/ to /ð/
  • Slow down!! There are barely any pauses between sentences and a lot of your words were said very quickly, so parts of them disappeared
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OHH It blocks when I write "_ _" how completely inane

unborn drum
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Thanks for putting the timestamp. I would surely work on all of my mistakes.

formal elbow
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How do I lift the roof of my mouth to produce more "round" words? I sound nasally when I speak.

hardy canyon
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Hey, could ya be so kind and rate my accent 🙂 ?

formal elbow
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wow 7/10 you still have an accent but it doesn't sound like you're opening your mouth wide enough. Still great 😃

rugged surge
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Hello! I'm a 15 y.o boy, that migrated from Belarus to California because of the war! I'm going to school in one week, so pls, rate my accent (learning English for 9 years)

river lance
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It's really good although I can't quite understand some parts, but still it's nice

rugged surge
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Thanks! There are some problems with microphone, usually, it doesn't sound like that :[

merry crow
rugged surge
merry crow
rugged surge
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I wasn't trying to make an accent by movies, but I really liked to!

merry crow
rugged surge
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Thanks, I'll search for some

merry crow
crystal steeple
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If someone would be kind enough to help me with my pronounciations

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For reference, I tried to recite The Patriot by Robert Browning

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Thanks!

unborn drum
snow prairie
clever drum
snow prairie
pallid fractal
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How can I send my voice here pls ? I can't send one I don't know how to send .....Help !

unborn drum
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It's gotta be in .mp3

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Format

keen pilot
unborn drum
pallid fractal
violet gate
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quote from evangelion

brittle oar
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its good but continue lookin brazillian

crystal steeple
river lance
crystal steeple
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@river lance Here

river lance
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Maybe work on your R sound. I think noticed a you not doing the english R, but you are doing a tapped R with your tongue. Focusing on changing this would make some words much clearer.

On top of this, you should maybe look into trying to make vowel sounds clearer. often you are pronouncing vowel sounds slightly incorrectly to where to sounds like a different vowel (a: instead of ae for example). Your accent sounds rather like very posh english a lot of the time, which is a highly uncommon accent.

Do not be discouraged, obviously a better accent comes with practice and experience. Speak as much as you can with native english speakers and over time it will develop well.

Besides from these issues, I understood about 98% of what you said. So good job because that’s more than some english people I know.

formal elbow
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I feel like practicing verbal english is helpless for me.. I sound too nasally 😢 and I feel "fake" like I'm faking a personality

stray depot
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wdym by “fake”

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it could just be the way ur voice is

river lance
crystal steeple
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You help will be indeed very helpful to me 😄

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Thanks again!

formal elbow
river lance
# formal elbow it feels like I'm faking a personality is what I'm trying to say sorry I couldn'...

if it’s not your native language and you don’t use it verbally, your mind won’t be used to it. I suppose you’d just have to speak it more often and eventually this would go.

I believe i’ve seen research that suggests that bilingual or multilingual people have different personalities depending on what language they’re using. But this could just refer to people who have grown up speaking two languages

granite thistle
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There seems to be a study, but its sample size is statistically insignificant (like only 50 subjects).

prime tinsel
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Hello guys I just joined here last 3 hours. I'm trying to learn an English Accent specifically, New York Accent. Can you rate my speech? Also, I would like to know what do you think of my speech. Thank you so much.

river lance
formal elbow
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Though idk how to unlearn that. It could be that America isn't how it's presented in the media and perhaps everything surrounding that country could be grossly exaggerated and my "personality" for English is the exaggerated version of America, thus, affecting my speech in (or manner of speaking) American English...

keen pilot
river lance
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I mean so long as you’re speaking it lol

formal elbow
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I want my accent to be "undetectable" when I speak English.. but that would mean having to speak a lot.. like a lot..

river lance
river lance
granite thistle
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Not impossible, but very hard indeed.

river lance
# granite thistle Not impossible, but very hard indeed.

I mean practically speaking it’s nigh impossible. If you learn a language in your 20s or 30s and don’t have an incredible knack for accents, even after years of study and speaking, your accent will sound good, maybe very good, but still foreign

granite thistle
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Yea, that occurs in the vast majority of cases; but a few actually make it.

storm kite
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I'm From India and my english is the best in here think...

solid needle
storm kite
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Try to beat me

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Bakerrrrrrr

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A native to me ig

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Intresting

zinc plinth
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ahem interesting*

storm kite
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My mistake

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Interesting

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Ty for correcting me

zinc plinth
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yw

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🙂

mild idol
storm kite
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Hii

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Benjali

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Is it

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Anjali

unborn drum
formal elbow
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It's terrible.

unborn drum
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Yeah. It's probably the microphone.

  1. My microphone is pretty bad.
  2. I have converted the raw recording online into mp3.

Thankyou so much for such an honest review.
I have never been to any english speaking country.

stray depot
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ur pronunciation was pretty good, just need to work with intonation and the flow of your words

viral steeple
unborn drum
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got another audio clip. Can anyone rate it ?
somehow my microphone can't pick my 's' sound perhaps because its too old.

native meadow
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This is a voice note for me class. Reference:

"Hi, my name is Irvin. I have been studying how to teach Spanish for almost 3 years.
For me, teaching is helping people to improve their skills. Especially, when you’re learning a new language, you need someone to practice, to share the learned, to solve doubts, and, overall, to enjoy, the process.

That’s why my classes are planned to be practice and interactive, there you will be able to improve your conversational skills and learn with different resources".

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Please, rate my accent. Any advice or grammatical mistake, tell me. I'm trying to learn IPA, but I still have problems

stray depot
# native meadow Please, rate my accent. Any advice or grammatical mistake, tell me. I'm trying t...

"Hi, my name is Irvin. I have been studying how to teach Spanish for almost 3 years.
For me, teaching is helping people to improve their skills. Especially, when you’re learning a new language, you need someone to practice, to share the learned, to solve doubts, and, overall, to enjoy, the process.

That’s why my classes are planned to be practice and interactive, there you will be able to improve your conversational skills and learn with different resources".

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Your accent is pretty good, I can hear you speak clearly

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I bolded the words that you need to practice on

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learned should be pronounced like ler-nd
doubts should be pronounced like dow-bts

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and if I were you, I'd change the last line of your first paragraph bc the words don't flow well

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For me, teaching is helping people to improve their skills. Especially, when you’re learning a new language, you need someone to practice and learn with, solve issues, and overall enjoy the process

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And also talk a bit slower. You got punctuation in a few places, so you need to pause clearly. Speaking a bit more slower(especially the first line)should make you sound more clear in what you want to say

native meadow
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Thank you very much, @stray depot 🔥

stray depot
high ledge
# native meadow

I can definitely hear that you are from a Spanish speaking country but everything is clear and easy to understand

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And intelligibility is the most important thing

native meadow
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Any advice to improve my accent?

elfin furnace
native meadow
barren pond
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i dont know how to share voice here

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can u help

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guess i did it

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i am sick but i tired

wind plinth
# barren pond

Pretty good. Some words here and there were a bit unclear, but based on context I can fill in blanks. All in all, I didn't have much trouble understanding, and I don't think most English speakers will either. 👍

narrow pivot
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Studying is the progress of the code is not a good idea to get the dam box of the code is not a good idea to get the dam box of the code is not a good idea to get the dam box of the code is

barren pond
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thanks :))

gentle nest
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Any tips on adopting a British accent? creepy

obsidian tusk
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Hello, I'd like some tips not on speaking skills, but on hearing skills. It's not like I'm already an expert at speaking, but, i think being able to correctly interpret a different accent comes first. If anyone has any tips regarding it, pls help

random barn
unborn drum
river lance
wind plinth
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guys

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use vocaroo

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because some devices dont support mp3

frozen helm
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What conditions must be complied for a perfect accent?

unborn drum
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native parrot
unborn drum
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thats how i learned it too

unborn drum
native parrot
indigo river
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Can anyone rate my pronunciation of: six, sixth, sixths, mountain, mountains, curtain, curtains, sentence, sentences

earnest violet
granite thistle
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indigo lion
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Rate my accent

warped zenith
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I can understand you clearly

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the t's and d's did catch my ears

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but ig that's because of your native language

river lance
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Hi

warped zenith
warped zenith
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I don't know about the t's in the words following.

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maybe that's the right in your accent

indigo lion
violet gate
nocturne pebble
river lance
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Or just do it like Ed Sheeran and pronounce it as “sikth” 🙂

indigo river
indigo river
indigo river
unborn drum
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hollow stump
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please sugges this in a good manner how to write this

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one of my friend who was planning to go to usa for pursuing his masters because of which he has left his clg placement that was very good package but covid comes in picture that year, so his all plans were crushed up and now he is strugling to pursue a good paying job........so sometime it happens things not go according to our wish so grab the opportunity which you got at the time and with try to preapre or do for something besides.........this is what my opinion is

forest gust
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Your accent is pretty good.

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It's more likely American

unborn drum
warped zenith
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In my accent, I'd usually find most pronounce a distinct 't'

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Many do use a glottal stop but yours doesn't exactly sound like one

warped zenith
warped zenith
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in my opinion

nocturne pebble
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i even get around it just by saying six and use context to help

warped zenith
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that's definitely the best way

violet gate
crimson pelican
topaz linden
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Can you guys give me some comments on this?

keen pilot
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Hello everyone, I recommend using a website called vocaroo to record your audio to post to this channel. It is a free website and gives you a shareable link. It is free and easy to use. Not all people are able to listen to the MP3 files you send. Here is the website. https://vocaroo.com

river lance
topaz linden
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Thank you for your compliment. The last word is Holocene, I wasn't sure if that's the correct pronunciation, this is my first time encounter this word.

indigo lion
keen pilot
# indigo lion https://voca.ro/1a7l392mAj5r <@134836648037842944>

Ok tbh your accent is noticeable but only in so far as I can tell what your native language is. But other than that. I don’t really have much else to say sadly. You pronunciation is good. You don’t seem to stutter or struggle with any words you really said. And just by the way to speak it’s very clear you have a clear mastery of English speaking. I’m sure there are small things you need to improve on here and there but many of those things probably aren’t noticeable enough that it matters. Overall 10on10

indigo lion
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Thanks! I was expecting harsh critique, but I'm quite relieved

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I don't talk to natives that often, and getting such compliments from one is definitely a win in my book

keen pilot
forest gust
unborn drum
unborn drum
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Intonation's good too

forest gust
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split sage
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I know it's bad but you can only judge my accent not me pls 😭

native parrot
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sounds pretty good

hollow stratus
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As far as I know, it's usually fluency, accuracy and choice of words

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Being able to express one freely and giving out the message efficiently is what I feel is important

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Having good accents is great but what exactly is a bad accent.
I understand if I hear your native language while you're speaking English is not something many do not like or prefer

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But having a foreign accent is not always bad! What one must focus on is clarity

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Your pronunciations must be distinct and clear and that is what most English learners be on the look for

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I've seen many learners simply fretting about their accent and losing on actually learning the language properly

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If you're trying to master a particular accent like the standard ones (British, Canadian, Australian, etc.) Then definitely we will have a lot to discuss about your accent

craggy widget
# forest gust Let me know your opinions regarding my accent. Have a good day! https://voca.ro/...

I can understand everything, so it's pretty good!
There are noticeable pronunciation things you could work on. The main ones are:


0:02 - "I'm recurding dis woice"
The "or" in "recording" should be the same as in "four", not "fur".
You used a normal /d/ instead of /ð/ in "this". Outside of some specific accents that merge them, these 2 sounds need to be different. The tip of your tongue must touch your teeth. Put the tip of your tongue against the back of your top front teeth and push air through, that will give you the sound in "thing". Then add voicing (same as turning s into z) and you will get the sound like in "this".
/w/ and /v/ are different sounds. /w/ is made by rounding your lips and pulling your tongue back. /v/ is made only by pushing your lower tip into your upper teeth.


0:13 - "your opeenions, your fitback"
Make sure you can reliably make the vowels of "beet" and "bit" different, because it sounds like you swapped them when you said this. The length of the vowels isn't very important, they are just different vowels with different sounds. "beet" is like the vowel in فیل, "bit" is not very far from the 1st vowel in پدر.


The issues above^ can affect how you're understood because they can make the difference between words.


Some stress-related things. These are not as important because they usually won't stop you being understood.
"to", unless you have reason to stress it, doesn't sound like "too"/"two". It instead has the schwa sound, /tǝ/. "If you're listening to this voice" is a place where it naturally uses this weak form
"accent" is stressed on the 1st syllable. You got this right the first time, but then the wrong way around at 0:17
Unstressed syllables tend to have schwa or no vowel at all, especially when they end in a sonorant. The second syllable of "level" is one of these. There shouldn't be much of a vowel in it at all, it's more like "levll", where you go straight from the v into the l.

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forest gust
# forest gust Thanks. Yes, it does.

Lemme fix it. If your accent is understandable, then you're fine. But, the more your accent is better, the more your English level will be higher.

It doesn't mean having a high level of English is only required a good accent. Having a good accent is a plus.

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Hi

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it's been a long time since I uploaded a judge my accent voice record, by the way, sorry if the mic's quality is bad. 😅

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Recently I'm reading God of War (novel), feel free to leave suggestions and improvements

I would really love if someone can read this clip for me in British Accent

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awww

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@hollow stratus Yeah! Actually I'm kinda working on that for a long time

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Also decide which British accent you want to go for as well

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the RP one

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a modern RP ic

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My accent's a classic Indian one so I can't show you how to do it

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but you need to focus on the pronunciation of: ||(almost everything)||
eye, steadied, quivering, arm, narrowing, focus, release, forcing, breaTH

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there are others but these cover most

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definitely need to work on the vowels, stress(which syllable is stressed in particular)
and the 'TH' sound

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Got it 👍 Thanks for the assist

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Take small steps at a time, work on non-rhoticity and some vowels for now

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A little chick trying to mimic the Britons, what are your thoughts ?

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chick

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marketes?

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interestes?

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I am gonna have the citric acid, they say it works tremendously well when it comes to cleaning the stomach and making the chick grows bigger. Thanks for the notes

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the pronunciation of the 'o' is correct but is slightly excessive

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Noted down.

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I'm not much good at accents so, please wait somebody else to provide proper feedback

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Hlo

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Please judge my British accent @craggy widget if I improved even a little
(if you still remember me 🙏 ) (Sorry for the ping too 😅)

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and ease a bit while pronouncing 'city'

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It sounds good, you've definitely improved a lot

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wait- but there isn't tough in the script I've read

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After this I believe Alc will be able to guide you better

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it's "tar for mortar"

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ic

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mb then

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no it was mine Ig I might've mispronounced it

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alright

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thanks

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not really... I'm off to bed rn

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I'm like a night owl so, sorry

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It's 12 AM rn for me I've got to go sleep

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I'd like to know if I have a hint of my Native language/ accent

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Yamete kudasai!!!

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Hey can anyone write down what he is talking about?

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# steel shore Please judge my British accent <@637662335611437074> if I improved even a little...

I remember you yea lol
It's very good over all so as usual I'll just post a list of things I noticed:

0:01 - "Whole" sounded like "hall". "Whole" should be a diphthong by default, basically LOT + w. If you do make it a monophthong, you need to keep it roughly at LOT. This happens a bunch of other times but I'll only mention it here
0:07 - "moved eastward" these vowels were FOOT and KIT, they should be GOOSE and FLEECE
0:22 - "mor(ʔ)tar" can't put a glottal here I'm afraid, it makes the t sound geminated
0:33 - "ourselves" is really never pronounced with 3 syllables, "our" is smoothed to START
0:46 - "if as" this has to be /f/
1:00 - "they will" sounded like "there will"
1:04 - "scattered" shouldn't be aspirated (happens again later)
1:06 - "over (ʔ) all the (ʔ) Earth" you've used glottal stops where there really should just be approximants, /r/ and /j/
1:13 - "because" needs to be aspirated

A few of your /w/s need your tongue to be pulled back more (0:34 "otherwise", 1:00 "language", 1:10 "why")

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# upper pebble

"...been displaced as the world's richest person by Bernat Orno*, who owns almost 50% of French luxury giant LVMH. According to the Bloomberg billionaire's index, Musk has seen his fortune tumble by more than 100 billion dollars since January. The Tesla, Twitter, and SpaceX boss is now worth just a mere..."

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*I don't know this name so it's probably not what I wrote

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hi

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So the /k/ in "scattered" isn't aspirated because it has /s/ before it

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There's something to be said for writing it as /'sga.tǝd/ because of this

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thank you

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so much

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how do i know how the I is pronounced in a word? every word it's pronounced in a different sound, as in "Like" and "Live"

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It's not different in every word, there's a pretty small set of pronunciations for <i>

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There are also rules to predict it, they just have exceptions

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When you have i + only 1 consonant + vowel it tends to be like "like"

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If there's more than 1 consonant or there's no vowel, it tends to be like "kit"

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"live" is an exception, it can be read in both ways depending on the meaning
(a regular example would be "ride", "rid", "riding", "ridding", where the above rules work)

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Somewhere on the wiki page for english orthography I think there's a big table giving rough rules for the different values of each letter

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so in "different" like i said in my first message is the ɪ

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from IPA

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there's another sound besides these two said?

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so followed by 1consonant + vowel is always the 'aɪ' sound? like in price

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is there some kind of chart of pronunciation rules? i know the IPA but i want to know the rules for when i have to pronounce these sounds

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The more rules you learn, the more exceptions you're going to have to keep track of

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It becomes complicated fast

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After major rules, it's easier to just look up the sound of a word if you don't know it/can't remember, rather than trying to guess

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But anyway

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how does this work

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Is there any teacher in this room?

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is there anybody that will rate my accent?

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She's using the correct syllable stress and intonation but she still sound fake and weird

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Why is that
Nd what is she lacking ?

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Well, I think if she isn´t a native speaker she´ll obviously sound "weird" like anybody else who doesn´t have english as their main language.

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But she sounds fine tho

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# slow lotus Why is that Nd what is she lacking ?

She’s Indian.
Her English is understandable, but she mispronounces a few consonants.
This isn’t really an ‘accent thing’ - I can only guess that she hasn’t learned the correct way to enunciate the English consonant ‘V’. At -8.22 she says ‘Pause the Wideo instead of Video. In English, the letters ‘W’ and ‘V’ are produced in different parts of the mouth.

V and F are ‘consonant pairs’, not V and W.

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Anyone would like to hangout on vc?

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anyone wanna practice english conversations cuz i dont wanna get a D in my next speaking exam 😦

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How can I change my accent?

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Can anybody give me some suggestion?

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You sound like CaspianReport

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But your pronunciation is good

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And somebody that's fine

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Yo

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Please help me with my pronunciation, guys.

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Hey guys! When I saw this thread on this server, I was like OMG!
I've always wanted feedback on my accent! Well, here's my audio, I'm super open to constructive criticism,.
Thank you
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need seomone to help me whith the british accent please

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por favor

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For example A makes auh, G makes guh

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If you look on youtube you will find multiple vids, and they will help quite alot

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lol its childish, but it may help

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because it says what letter makes what sound

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Hi

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Judge my accent

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how you form sentences sounds a tiny bit odd but I could still understand what you were saying completely
like "I am going to Canada to do college" You would just say, "I am going to Canada for college"
small things that you'll get better at

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Yeah 😂😂

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# daring dune Yeah 😂😂

I'd recommend you to decrease the usage of 'you know'. Since you're going for college to Canada you'd need some idea of formal English to be spoken with professors. I've seen many non-native speakers use the phrase brilliantly to dodge having to elaborate on things and at one point they start subconsciously using it

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Wrong channel but nice intro

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Hi

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Hello

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hi

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I'd suggest you to open your mouth a bit more while pronouncing the different vowels

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Hiya, I’d really appreciate it if someone gave me some feedback on my accent

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Thanks :))

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Hello, guys! I would like to you judge my pronunciation to know if the understanding is clear or not.