#🗒|pronunciation
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If you're into British accent (RP one) you can try
Get rid of your accent by Linda James and Olga Smith (mind you there's also an advanced version of it as well)
Sorry, I couldn't join at that time since it was 1:35 AM for me
I really hate timezones 💢
Why ppl judge ppl 😭
fr judging is a bad thing 😭
Otherwise you won't improve
This channel is meant to help improve people’s accent and it’s voluntary.
Here's a little problem: when I speak English, my native language (Russian) makes itself known to everyone, and so, sometimes, I have a little problem with pronouncing the letter "R" - it is heard more clearly than necessary. Can this be fixed?
P.S. - i got the same problem with other letters too...
This problem happens to me too, because I also speak Slavic language
which one?
Serbian 
ey, that's cool
Don't worry too much about your accent as long as your pronunciation is clean and people can understand you clearly:)
Does it need to be ‘fixed’?
Just roll your R, and you’ll sound a little like a Scotsman.
Wow, what a perfect solution to the problem. My respect. (i'm seriously serious)
Hey, don't worry about it, I am Russian as well and, assuming your problem with R's is pronouncing them using too clearly on the end of syllables of words such as quarter, burglar, surgery etc., I had the same problem until I started trying to minimize the effort to pronounce that sound while still making it clear enough to be able to tell there actually is an R sound in there
What you can do to find the perfect gap is use a voice recorder, just say out some words and see if the R is clear enough yet not too strong
Hope it'll help
Hi where i can join a conversation
Apparently, you had joined a conversation.
a short introduction of the national dish of malaysia nasi lemak
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wootah
😆😆
ur accent is good
Hi, I'm new in discord, can u help me?
How I can chat with others ?
What do you mean specifically? If you wish to join a voice chat, you just click on a channel and boom, you're ready to go. If you're using a device that has a microphone and speakers, like a headset with headphones and a mic, or a smartphone, or a laptop with a mic and speakers
I suppose you can also ask people on the discussion channels if you want to chat with specific people
*speakers
Rate pls:)
I’d say pretty close to a native!
The accent is pretty
You sound like KingChris from YT
what do I have to fix for me to sound native?
your intonation, you sound a little bit robotic
there isn't a specific way to sound native bc everyone has an accent, but as long as your intonation and pronunciation is understandable, you're good to go!
I'd like to sound just like a native speaker though.
what I mean is, there not really such thing of a typical native speaker accent
What I believe is that people create their own native speaker accent
from their own voice
but if you want to sound native, I'd say work on intonation
can I dm you?
sure, but i must sleep soon
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Thanks in advance for your opinion🙂
"Inside the center, it was like stepping into a scene from hell.
It was packed, mostly with dogs and their owners, most of whom seemed to be young teenage blokes with skinhead haircuts and aggressive tattoos.
Seventy per cent of the dogs were Staffordshire Bull Terriers that had almost certainly been injured in fights with other dogs, probably for people’s amusement."
It's literally perfect, no need to change anthing but that's just my opinion
Ur accent is same as this lol
https://youtu.be/mnAwSz1zADE
Going to the gym and eating more doesn't make you gain weight? Joe Fazer gym motivation edit balkan gains tomigains arcdelio.
10/10 in my opinion, no need to change anything
um are you just rating my voice though? XD
Just saying because some people just like my voice a lot.
Ayo?💀
thanks I really appreciate it
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The audio has some noise, but ur accent is just like a native's except being a lil too fast(like lack of pauses)
🤣 she s a native
Lmao😂
forgot to turn on noise reducer
Anyone is learning American accent? Please let me join u too
Also helps to talk to natives in vc. There are a few that hangout in the voice channels regularly
I will try to be friends with them
hope they dont judge my accent cause its so weird
Bruh never put yourself down just learn that's what gigachads do
hahah ive a bad habit about doubting and judging myself
but ill be chad fs
#PatricBateman
haha
I want to practice my english speaking I have got my IELTS exam on 9th. Is anyone free for a gossip?
send me request
im studying ri8 now
once im free jus lemme know
Lol if ur asking about accent it's obviously perfect
I want to practice my English for my job interview. Is anyone interested in giving me some tips and tricks for the interview that would be very helpful
Message me and we can arrange a time to go over tips and help prepare for your interview
Good ol' Walter to the rescue

Hey I’m a native speaker who always seemed to struggle with saying the letter “r”
Any help/advice? Seen a lot of YouTube videos on the tongue placement but I can’t seem to figure it out
help w my accent
ahiii j'suis choquée ton accent est incroyable
Touch the skin above the top teeth with a rolled toungue and just practice saying rrrr multiple times
Answer (1 of 9): Well, I can only offer my own small experience. I'm 31, and only just recently decided, thanks to being depressed enough (or really, sick enough of being so depressed) to actually look into this. I've hated this about myself and spent my whole life running from it, refusing to re...
i think it's perfect! i wish my accent was like yours 🥲
merci mon khey mdrr
incredible, you absolutely sound like a native.
Hi guys
as an american it doesnt move trtowards casual accent
To Leon Werth
I apologize to the children for dedicating this book to a grown-up. I have a good excuse: this grown-up is the best friend I have in the world. I have another good excuse: this grown-up can understand everything, even children's books. I have a third good excuse: this grown-up lives in France where he is hungry and cold. He needs to be comforted. If all these excuses are not enough, I will then dedicate this book to the child who became that grown-up. All grown-ups were first children. (But few of them remember it.) So | correct my dedication:
To Leon Werth
when he was a little boy.
That, was very well. For an American English style that moves far into the category.
Too fast lol
Thanks, but what do you mean by “that moves far into the category.” I’m trying to understand, I looked up on internet this sentence, or something like that and it doesn’t make sense so far. Seems you’re saying that it’s far and at the same time near. I mean… “far”, “into” in the same sentence. ( I’m just trying to understand in order to capture your criticism and improve myself ).
Sorry, it was the 88th of 104 from the same paragraph, so I was quite impatient at the time. And…obviously, tell me about the accent.
Idk so I'll just point out the words that were in (french?)accent
So, from the top, it is
Friend
Everything
Hungry
Little

The category of American accent goes into a dull, not so full and clear accent like that.
kinda sounds like an Irish accent except for the intonation I think? but I'm guessing it's an American Accent
a little off but pretty good
i will be sending my voice record in few minutes
very good 👍
REALLY GOOD
you dont sound like a foreigner
if you hadnt started w "im from the philippines" i wouldnt know at all
how do you guys have the courage to send your voicemails like that in terms of being uncomfortable with the accent😳
Hello guys, hope you are going well. Can you judge my accent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIjqJtA_1fg ❤️ ?
This is a video where I try to explain that feeling that nobody understand you. I try to explain this using a concept that in philosophy is called Qualia, an idea that explains why it is important not to doubt our feelings, after all if only you know what you feel, only you can take yourself seriously.
For me it's easy to think that no one knows me, they dnt know anything about me, so for them it's just a random person that they'll not remember tomorrow... I probably made a lot of mistakes writing this, but who cares? we just wanna get better at english
Exactly. You're mostly very judgy towards yourself. Native speakers are just glad to help.
I might need a native speaker soon to judge my accent please, preferably in voice chat, I don't like sending recordings. 🙏
Or I can send something but in private only.
Your accent is fine and understandable from when we spoke. Now I haven’t heard it long enough to know if there are specific sounds you struggle with but overall it sounds good
Thank you ! Can I send you an audio in PM ? It's narration with focus on good pronunciation (trying to, lol).
Sure thing!
Thank you, sent.
What do you think about my accent....... I receive all the comments 👀👌🏾
Where's your audio file to listen to?
Not bad @sudden crystal if I’m nitpicking (a month from now) was were I could tell you weren’t from the states. Also no one in the states says cheers . But you definitely have the y’all down. You had a mix between Texas and British lingo strong 💪
Yoo dude can you tell me what you did to get rid of your accent if you don't mind me asking?
You have a really cute accent.
You should work on your /θ/ when saying "the" and "this" ("this voice message"), but when you say "month" it sounds fine to me
When you say "to" in "to the States" you could make that /t/ a little more aspirated
Your "in" in "in a month from now" sounds a bit like /ɛ/ as in the word "tell"
When you say "fares up" the "up" has a vowel that sounds like the /ɔ/ vowel in "torn" even though in General American English it should be /ɑ/ as in the word "mom" (although idk which accent you're going for)
When you say "English speaker" you fail to transition from /ʃ/ as in "sugar" to /s/ as in speaker and that's problematic. With only /ʃ/, you could say "English peaker", and then the p should be aspirated. But with /s/, you say "English speaker" and then the p isn't aspirated (just like you pronounced it) because s removes aspiration from the following k, p, t consonant
I hope you find this helpful. You could try rerecording it with these tips in mind.
Also, "I'm" doesn't usually need to be stressed. You don't need to say /a(ɪ)m/, you can say /əm/
But the way you stress your words was mostly on point, so good job on that.
One part I find particularly impressive is the way you say "a month from now"
"from" is unstressed, as it should be
Here's my take on that passage. Note that I'm not a native speaker
oh one more thing, when you say "if it fares up" you try to link "it" and "fares" with a /d/ sound. That is indeed a common thing that happens, like for example "it is" is often /ɪdɪz/
hhhhowever
You can only do that when the following sound is a VOWEL sound
If you listen to my recording then what I did is I separated them with a glottal stop
So usually when a word ends in /t/ and you wanna link it to the next word, if the next word starts with a vowel sound it turns into a /d/, like "it is" or "cat ears", but if the next word starts with a consonant sound then it turns into a glottal stop, like "it does" or "cat paws"
Hi! My name is Nathalie i am from France. I need a native speaker to help me with my video project.
I have to shoot a short film about myself for college and my english has to be perfect with a good accent. I have a script of one page that I can send in DM and I need someone to read it ( one page only ) record it and send it to me. It would be grateful for the person who could help me.
Idk how to send a audio file here.... 😅 Nvm
broo 😭😭
Tf you mean accent reduction
You don't even have an accent
You can use a website called vocaroo
You can record an audio file and then post the link
I think the most important thing you should focus on is paying very close attention to which words to stress. In the first sentence, "Five months ago I moved to the US with my family" you give every syllable almost equal (and quite strong) stress. These are the syllables you should be stressing:
Five months ago I moved to the US with my family
Even though some syllables in that sentence should be given less stress, it was still very much understandable. But when you say "now it looks like I'm stuck here for quite a while" it's much harder to understand because you seem to give almost no stress to any of the words (and you're missing the m in I'm)
Here's how that sentence should be stressed:
Now it looks like I'm stuck here for quite a while
When you say "speech", it sounds like /'spiːʃ/ even though it should be /ˈspiːt͡ʃ/. So perhaps you might wanna practice the /t͡ʃ/ sound with words like "peach", "beach" and "reach".
When you say "if there are" you're missing the /f/ in /ɪf/
To give you some positive feedback as well, you did really well on "Originally I'm from Ukraine", because you stress "Originally" and then "I'm" and "from" are unstressed and the first syllable of "Ukraine" is also unstressed, as it should be.
I think your vowels are surprisingly on point so I wouldn't worry too much about perfecting individual sounds, rather I would focus more on practicing what words to stress in a sentence
This I think is a pretty good resource to get you started
https://www.englishclub.com/pronunciation/sentence-stress.htm
I would record some examples for you but it's almost 5 am where I live and I'm at my parents' house
wow thank you so much!!!!
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I would give you the same recommendation as I did to hamabuntha, work on sentence level stress first and foremost because I think it's one of the most important things to get right
Here's a cleaned-up version of your script. I've bolded all the syllables that you should stress. Note that the final "thank you" is totally optional and it's more of a stylistic choice to stress "you", but I thought it would give your speech a little more variation
Alright guys so this is me, trying to put on a fake accent. And yeah, I hope you guys could give me some feedback about how I sound and everything. Uh yeah, let me know if there's something I can work on or some sort of exercise that could help me out. Thank you, and thank you for listening.
You could also say "Thank you, and thank you for listening" and that would be totally fine
In this recording I speak very slowly and I've exaggerated the stress a little bit. I think when you practice it's good to exaggerate an effect to really get a feel for what's going on
If you wanted to, you could stress "some" in "some sort of exercise", but you don't have to, and I chose not to.
here's me reading out the same passage more or less normally
Bro, you sound awesome 😭
Were you always fluent in English or did you also have any accent ?
I was just born this way 😎
jk
I mean I have a recording of when I was 14 and it sounded surprisingly good
idk how I did it
I mean it wasn't like... good. But it was like... good.
you know what I mean
maybe I could try to find the clip for you
How do I know which word or which syllable to stress in a sentence?
Also I was talking to someone in VC about my accent nd i asked em to gimme some feedback nd they told me i speak certain words are really bad i need to work on my pronunciation too .
I would love to hear that !
This was 5 and a half years ago (I had just turned 14)
if you compare it to this there's a pretty big difference lol
BROOO i hate you LOL 😭😭
You sound way better than me even back then.
Sabine Hossenfelder is a German theoretical physicist who makes interesting science videos on YouTube and I would say that I was around on par with her at age 14 with my accent. Maybe she's a little more well-spoken than I was but the difference isn't huge. And I think that's kinda funny
I don't wanna make it sound like 14 year old me had a great accent cuz he didn't didn't but you can tell that he has a decent grasp on all the sounds of the English language, has some familiarity with linking words together, sounds distinctly more American than British and is at least unconsciously aware of which words to stress in a sentence
My worst enemy was, and still kind of is, the /z/ sound. You can see it's mostly absent from the recording
In today's recording
You said "guys" nd atleast in that recording the z sound at the end of " guys" sound fine
Anyways I'd say you've really good speaking skills start a Youtube or something lol
If you listen closely to this then you might hear a missing /z/ from "this is me" but I chose to not mention that and prayed that people wuoldn't notice 👀
here I don't make that mistake
so somehow I think it's easier to talk "normally" than it is to talk really slowly because when you talk slowly your brain lacks the phonological context that helps you determine whether you need to make an s voiced
BROOOOO 🧑🦯 you really thinking about that "z " ???! Obv noone would notice it cuz it sounds fine
Icic how do know which words to stress in a sentence nd which syllable to stress in a word
I had already sent the file once I noticed that and I was like "nah bro I'm not rerecording that just for that, if people wanna dunk on me then so be it"
cuz that one little voiced s was not relevant to the larger point I was trying to make
YEA istg if i had voice like yours I'd go nd become a voiceover artist 😭
That's a very good question. Idk if you noticed but I actually made several edits to the original script, adding more bolded syllables, some after I'd already recorded it, and to my surprise even though I wasn't consciously aware that a certain syllable was stressed it actually sounded perfectly okay on the recording
There are some general guidelines as documented here
https://www.englishclub.com/pronunciation/sentence-stress.htm
This page will show you how sentence stress can help you understand rapid spoken English. Listen to the examples! Pronunciation for learners of English.
It just comes subconsciously with practice?
but really I think it's the type of thing that you learn best by just practicing it, yeah
like listening to a native speaker speak and perhaps writing it down on a piece of paper and then underlining the syllables that are stressed
Note that stress isn't just about where to speak a little louder, it also affects the pronunciation of certain words like have, for, in, and, if, them, him, etc.
idk if you're familiar with IPA but the schwa sound is very common in unstressed syllables
all vowels secretly wanna turn into a schwa
Icic
I get the rhythm thing
But what about incorrect pronunciation of words , vowels nd constants
shwa = eh sound? So you mean alot of unstressed syllables sound like shwa
Wdym
I hate being at my parents' house cuz if I wanna record something then I need to record it on my phone and then upload it to icloud drive and then download it from there
but basically
You know the sound in her
for, when it's not stressed, becomes sorta like fur, with the "her" vowel
You can use vocaroo
You just record yourself nd copy link nd paste it here
- How long have you been doing it for? (stressed)
- I've been doing it for (unstressed, "fur") ages.
Ahhhhhhh
sorry about the terrible audio quality
https://voca.ro/17OI9DpiLQEb
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I seeee! What Chu mean
Like when the syllable is stressed it is a clear sound
But when it's not stressed it's sorta sounds like a
Uh
yeah exactly
It's the same with can
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- Do you think we can (unstressed, schwa sound) do it?
- I think we can! (stressed)
AHHH that makes so much more sense cuz I'd watch alot of movies nd stuff
Nd I'd listen to guys nd be like
He said fur there but i say it sounds different
One rule is that if you have one of these words that has a stressed and an unstressed form then it's always stressed if it's the last word of the sentence.
"How long have you been doing it for"
"I think we can"
Unstressed = cuan
Stressed = caaan
unstressed = /'k(ə)n/
stressed = /'kæn/
dude you are really helpful istg ☠️
I'm glad :)
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ight ICIC
Do you hold the tip your tongue in middle of your teeth when you say L , T ND N in a word for example in apple
When you say the L what's your tongue position ?@somber flax
sorry I was out brushing my teeth, I'm back now
When I say "apple" my tongue never touches my teeth
It's fine you can reply later if you are busy :).
Well then where's your tongue when you say the L in apple
I need to clarify this a little bit because clearly it doesn't apply to all words, I think it only applies to auxiliary verbs (can, might, do, etc.) and prepositions (for, to, etc.).
A pronoun at the end of a sentence is so normal that it's not automatically stressed. "Have you found him? (unstressed)"
But of course it can be if there's good reason for it to be stressed, like "Is that him?"
There's so much to learn 😭
Have you watched this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP0jHNoFqWo
Learn the Sounds of American English! This video covers the L [l] Consonant. Perfect your American Accent! Buy the whole set of videos, the Sounds of American English, here: http://rachelsenglish.com/sounds
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Nope I'm gonna now
https://voca.ro/1meGMAubQinZ
What do you think about these
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Everything except for "apple" sounded great
Try to focus on the second vowel of "apple", it's the same vowel sound as in "truck" but just unstressed
So the ple is unstressed?
yes
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Is it okay now ???
now it sounds a lot better
Before i was saying LULLLL now it's now more lal .
It really is all about the stress rhythm ☠️☠️
I still think the second vowel is a little off, it sounds a bit like the /ʊ/ vowel in "book"
Hmmmm okay leme see
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actually idk maybe it was fine
the first and the second and the fourth one are great, not sure about the third one
I think you make the "book" vowel in the third one
and it's far more noticeable than in the first recording
This time i said apple twice
In the first one
I made sure my tongue tip was touching the roof https://voca.ro/1gsAcz6wIUrw
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These 3 are still the best ones IMO
HMMM
The L sound Hmmmm
Should I try again
I don't think it's about the L sound, I think it's about the second vowel sound, the schwa sound
Apple
æ pehl
ˈæpə͡l
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now it sounds like you're making the /u/ sound as in "true"
Wait can you send a vm of you saying apple but like really really slowly nd then in Normal speed
For example
Aee pa l
Just like how i did here
https://voca.ro/1anOxob63ge1
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Ahhhh finally
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Now one thing you could try to do is make the /p/ a little aspirated
If you hold a piece of paper in front of your mouth then it should move a little when you say the second syllable of "apple"
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Better or worse ?
The aspirated /p/ sounds great
So you think the word sounds good now ???
yeah it's good
TY!
You need to make the l darker
oh yeah true
It sounds too much like a regular l (as in "like")
That's the main problem I hear
Also
The /p/ in apple is usually not aspirated or only barely aspirated in American accents
In contrast to a word like "pull" where it is strongly
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What do you think about this
The first time you say it, you used [b] instead of [p]
Overall the l still needs to be darker though
do you think the aspiration appears weak because it's an unstressed syllable or is there something else going on?
It's definitely far more aspirated than the /t/ in the word "spleen"
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and I've never heard of there being "varying levels of aspiration" beyond, of course, there being stressed and unstressed syllables
Are you studying this as a subject or something ?
nah, it's just a hobby of mine
It's because it's in the onset of an unstressed syllable yes
For 5 years ??
I guess you're right. Clearly I was right to suggest aspiration though since pretty much the only thing that differentiates a /b/ from a /p/ in English is aspiration, which is why I've seen some people advocate for "spleen" being transcribed with a /b/
The distinction being purely aspiration is not really true intervocalically though
can you give an example?
It's true in onset and in clusters like that of "spleen" sure
Sure
Listen to the American speakers on this page https://forvo.com/word/dapper/ say the word "dapper"
They aren't aspirating the p, yet it does not sound like "dabber" at all
Intervocalically the voicing distinction is clear enough to set the two phonemes apart
nice website
Contrast that to the British speaker at the top, who does aspirate that /p/
So it depends on dialect as well
Unstressed again
and "supper"
but there it's truly unaspirated unlike in apple
is it because of the rhotic schwa?
So no puffing out air in apple ?
in AmE the /p/ in "apple" is aspirated
but I guess "only slightly"
https://forvo.com/word/apple/ the second American speaker has a little aspiration, the other 3 don't
well shit
this is huge for me
I'm surprised, amazed, and extremely curious
The speaker who aspirates it sounds like she's quite old
so this is kinda awkward cuz I don't wanna sound like I'm old haha
Icic
well you might wanna hold your horses on that one
😂brooooo
wait no
It's actually Atalina who's aspirating it
and she doesn't sound old at all
wait no
ok now I'm going insane
MHM
I feel like I hear exactly what I wanna hear
this is difficult, I think I need speech analysis software or something
Wiktionary transcribes "apple" without aspiration
so maybe unstressed syllables aren't aspirated and that's it?
Are you sureeee????
I don't think I aspirate the /p/ when I say "aspirated"
ˈæpə͡l
p is such a bad example because even if you don't aspirate it you still gotta let out some air
Aep - el
If I say "clutter" then the /t/ isn't aspirated for sure
and it might be because it's an unstressed syllable
wow this is cool
Maybe ppl say apple differently yk
Yes that's roughly the rule for American English. Aspiration happens word-initially and in the onset of stressed syllables
that's so wild, I love it
Should I ask another question
How do guys say "Mate" ?
It's not a super strict rule though like you heard with the lady who aspirated apple
I'm actually not super good with these things but I'm trying to learn so that I can better help other people with their accents
cuz I used to always get these people who came up to me like "yo please tell me how you do that, what's your trick" and I'd be like "idk, magic" cuz I didn't understand English phonology
Do you want to be an accent coach
I think that would be a cool part time job although I'm not sure if there's any demand for that in Finland
Probably not in Finland but yk you can start some sorta of online business nd ppl from all around the world can contact you
Leme look up if y'all guys have an accent or not
sounds a little elaborate, and also I wouldn't market myself as a "good" accent coach that everyone from all over the world should count on, I would market myself as a "good enough" accent coach who could help Finnish people especially well cuz Finnish is my native language
But more you coach the better you become so who knows
@slow lotus this is what I'm talking about with the dark l https://vocaroo.com/1bysFDYsSzAe
You can skip to just the last like 3 seconds if all you want to hear is the difference between not dark and dark
I do ramble sometimes lol
I feel so stupid for not picking up on that sooner
Don't feel stupid lol there are so many little details, nobody can possibly know all of them from the start
I'm still learning things about my own accent
when I linked the rachel's english video I actually watched it and I was like "yup, yeah, so it occurs when you have an l at the end of a syllable, I got it" and went on with my day, not thinking it could make such a dramatic impact on how "apple" sounds cuz typically you don't hear it pronounced wrong you just hear it pronounced right
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Like this ??
upon further reflection I don't think it's just the dark l that you did, I'm pretty sure you also changed the vowel
I think the vowel is important too
it's weird how when I said it slowly the aspirated /p/ just popped out
but I don't think I aspirate it when I say it normally
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I'm done giving advice for today because clearly I don't know what I'm talking about but I still don't find it entirely implausible that the vowel is the bigger problem
It aspired just a lil bit when you said it in normal speed
Aw I hope you've a nice day !
nah I'm not leaving in that sense 👀 would be cool if Alc came back with their input
I mean we can ping him
Should we ?
How to pronounce "Apple" in American English
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https://youtu.be/5-Wnyafykes look when she says the le
The tip of her tongue is between the teeth
Did you know that -le -el -il -al could present the same sound? Here I explain how to pronounce them correctly and how to improve you L pronunciation in English.
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I noticed after I recorded it and couldn't be bothered to redo bc it's a pretty small change in vowel quality, and it's orthogonal to how dark the l is
well if you listen to my recording and don't see any major problems with my pronunciation then I would say the dark l light l distinction
A) isn't that big of a deal and
B) can't solely explain SSQ's trouble
The "light" l you use after ~0:30 is pretty much just as dark as the one you used at the start
There's a difference sure
i dunno man
The issue is I'm not making the dark L sound correctly right ?
The vowel variation you heard me do was within the range [a~æ] and in fact a lot of your own apple vowels were leaning more towards the [a] side
idk if I'm completely failing to do a light l or what
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this is driving me nuts
Likeeee
Dod you compare
The
Wait that sounds so weird
When you said it witj a light L
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This is defo not a light L lol
In order to produce the dark L sound, you have to put the back/middle of ur tongue closer to the top of your mouth and the tip of ur tongue should be against ur teeth when pronouncing the sound
When you pronounce the last syllable of the word, it sounds like you pronounce it more to front of your mouth or middle (like going down) if that makes sense?? Whereas native speakers pronounce it more to the back of their mouths
I tried to replicate what you said first and then I repeated it how I'd say it. https://voca.ro/1aI36rDqdWmo
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Yh i think it definitely has to do with ur tongue (the middle/back not going up)
I isolated your vowels. Now idk if you're a native speaker, I don't think either one of your vowels is exactly a schwa, but when you try to pronounce it correctly it sounds a lot closer to a schwa than it does when you don't
If you don't make the same vowel sound in both demonstrations then in what universe is that a fair comparison?
again, I make the argument that the biggest thing separating those two is actually NOT the L but rather the vowel sound right before it
but then again, what do I know. I could be wrong
Ok I'm gonna record myself say it really really slow md you tell if it's alright or not now
Im also gonna say call ,tool nd full just to see if L is the problem
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Apple
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Tool cool fool etc
Do I pronounce my th's right? https://voca.ro/1ovFIMP1DUDr
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You could try saying
with them
math thing
within
without
that way the "th" is less in isolation and it might be easier to judge
In isolation, yes you did pronounce the two ‘th’ sounds correctly.
To master the sounds, trying practicing them in phrases and sentences.✅
In SkyFals' recording absolutely I can hear a vowel being inserted yes, without even needing to cut up the audio or anything
It is still true though that SSQ's ls are a noticeable way from being properly dark, and if you don't believe that my ears are working properly when I say that, perhaps you'll believe spectrograms
Each group of 3 starts with one of SSQ's, then 2 from native speakers
I'm actually trying to learn about spectrogram analysis at the moment
Here's the "call" section of that file, formants shown
The lowest 2 formant lines for the native speakers are squished right down, opening up a kind of dead space in the middle range
That's the effect of darkening the l
But in the first (SSQ) clip, they actually diverge instead
And for "fool":
Less pronounced but basically the same deal, you can even see the completely white mid areas in the last 2
I'm not going to clutter the chat by posting all of them lol
But feel free to open the clip in Praat and play around
In the case of "apple", you can also check the initial vowel to see how much of a difference that makes
The first vowel (slight diphthong really) of the second native "apple" clip matches SSQ's very well
So it seems very unlikely that's the problem
I never claimed the first vowel was the problem
I claimed that the problem was the second vowel
this is super cool and I don't wanna sound like I'm disrespecting your hard work, again I think it's super neat and I'll look more into it tomorrow (it's 5 AM in Finland and no, I did not wake up early) but even though a spectrogram can show you that something's wrong it can't directly tell you what part of the word sounds "the most wrong" and what they should particularly focus on, like I'm pretty sure when you look at the spectrogram for "call" the vowel is a bit off too, and I guess it's sort of subjective whether fixing the dark L or the vowel sound would make the biggest difference but either way I don't think that's something that a spectrogram can tell you directly
I know sorry, I was just addressing that bc you brought up me changing the initial vowel in my own recording
There's isn't really a second vowel
It's a syllabic dark l
Give or take a little wiggle
I don't think I meant to. I'll give your recording one more listen but I think I was referring to the second vowel
https://vocaroo.com/1bysFDYsSzAe
here in the last 3 seconds you butcher the second vowel so bad that no wonder it sounds terrible lol
It's certainly true that there are vowel difference with those other words absolutely, I don't mean to say that the l is more important in every case. The point of that recording is to show that SSQ's ls are consistently not as dark
We could talk about the other vowels if you like but I wanted to go 1 thing at a time
Not make my wall of text any larger lol
There isn't actually a second vowel in either of these like I say
The first has syllabic dark l for the syllable nucleus, the second has light
so is your "apple" only one syllable then?
It's still 2 syllables, but the 2nd syllable has the /l/ as its nucleus
isn't the nucleus always a vowel sound?
like in this case, a schwa
I could be totally off track here
I'm really no expert I'm just confused
I'm gonna cry my eyes out in the morning if I don't go to sleep right now...
Phonemically you can think of it that way if you'd like
Phonetically not so much
There's just not a schwa there
you know what that's actually quite believable
cuz if I imagine the typical realization of the almighty schwa and try to force it in there then it kinda doesn't make any sense
And in fact if you stick "apple" into Wiktionary
We have a narrow transcription that has only a dark l with the syllabic marker underneath
if it's not helpful to think of the schwa as being there then why is it included in the broad transcription?
Convenience for phonotactics pretty much
It's nice to say "every syllable has a vowel as its nucleus" and not then have to say "except actually ..."
aww
okay fair enough
thank you for being so considerate
have a good rest of your day, enjoy your daylight
wait no
you're from the UK
and not the US
Yep my sleep schedule is nearly as bad
(there are actually good reasons, like every syllabic consonant in English comes ultimately from its regular equivalent for one, and also that in most cases they're phonetically identical. If you write /n/ and /n̩/ then you're saying to the reader "these two things are perceived as different underlying sounds by speakers of the language" which is,,, not wrong actually but it's that really annoying kind of right that's honestly overly pedantic for a transcription that's not even meant to represent sounds with full accuracy - certainly more complex than just writing /n/ and /ǝn/)
I sleep now
Okay i tried saying the Dark L alone here
How do you think it sounds
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I tried streaching the UL sound few times too
here's a spectrogram of SSQ, a native speaker (from Alc's recording) and me
I have absolutely no clue how I'm supposed to analyze that lmao
it kinda seems like my L is even darker than that of the native speaker's which is kinda interesting
maybe I should get more native speaker clips to gain a better understanding
Bro so that's what you've been doing all this time ??
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Here i tried imitating you stipendi
idk if I'm the person you should be trying to imitate lol
here I've got 5 apples, the first one being mine
the rest of them are pronounced by native US speakers
I hope my bad mic quality doesn't affect the spectrogram, I really don't have any experience with these
maybe I'll try recording myself with my phone mic
ohh right
the reason I didn't do that initially is because audacity doesn't natively support m4a files
How do you think it's sounds tho ?
All of these sound similar to me
The difference is just the audio quality nothing else atleast i think so
not that I know how to read these but my dark L LOOKS like the average of all the other ones
so maybe a that's a good thing idk
The spectrogram shows that my apple is the most similar to the fourth speaker
and just by listening to it I'm definitely compelled to agree
I do think mic quality might affect things because I think the fourth speaker has a very similar /æ/ sound. And by "similar" I mean it's kind of a clusterfuck
and I also think she has the worst microphone out of all the clips I found
@somber flax
now I added an apple that I recorded on my phone which has a slightly better microphone
I wonder what those little hooks correspond to
What's the conclusion
Hmm icic
I'd like if you guys rate my american accent, also I would appreciate if you point out some mistakes I might've made while speaking, that helps me a ton improving.
as i heard, it sounds american
i couldn't realise a mistake
you should double check that you're pronouncing "enthusiasm" the way you want to
idk if you've been reading the previous conversations here but good job on the way you stress words
the fact that you stress "she" is a bit jarring but other than that I think it's pretty solid
you don't need to stress "a" in "a woman"
also most ppl nowadays have the cot caught merger which means you might wanna double check that you're pronouncing "on" the way you want to
When you say "with her luck" it sounds like "with our luck"
@somber flax Thank you so much, ok I'll work more on myself to rectify my pronunciation. 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜
oo
also something about the word delighted is off i think
are u rapping
yeah. parody on 50cent.
I feel like you have an indian accent?
you just dissed me?
no sir
so your conclusion about my accent is that i sound indian?
it does sound like u have an accent
yep. probably because i'm not american. but im not sure
dont hurt me man
what is love, baby dont hurt, dont hurt me, no more?
either Turkish or maybe from places around Ukraine
When you say "think of it" your schwa is a bit off and your /v/ feels a bit weak
When you say "for this script" your pronunciation of "for" doesn't reflect the fact that it's unstressed
here's a little reminder in case you need it
with examples
Have (unstressed) you done it? Yes I have. (stressed)
Can (unstressed) you do it? Yes I can. (stressed)
How long have you been doing it for? (stressed) For (unstressed) too long.
I know that (unstressed) it's not that big of a deal. I don't know about that. (stressed)
Are (unstressed) they crazy? Yes they are! (stressed)
(it contains other words as well because I originally recorded it for someone else)
these are GREAT examples, thank you sir
no problem
I think your /u/ in "movie" should be a little different (I think closer to a front vowel?) and again your /v/ is a bit weak
is there a regularity or method to this kinda thing... when should i stress and when should i unstress
like a MOVE-EE ?
same with "lose" in "lose weight"
There are some rules to it, like if a preposition is the last word in a clause then I think it's always stressed, but in general it can be kinda hard to know which words to stress and sometimes there are multiple perfectly valid ways to stress a sentence
when you say "weight" I hear a /v/
yes! i should add, i'm sensing a bit of a rush in my reading now that i'm listening to my voice again
perhaps the wrong stresses were because i was too rushy
well you can also hear word stress in vocal intensity and I think you do very well in that regard
When you say "tell her to" you should pronounce "tell her" as "teller" because an unstressed "her" is just a /ɚ/
and I would also recommend that you flap your t
just like in "get off [the couch]"
does that mean pronouncing the T harder?
wait- that's quite complicated
when you say "get off the couch" your /t/ sounds a lot like a [d]
and that's not a mistake
it's called t flapping
I GET IT NOW! it happens when /t/ is between two vowels
interesting
i've heard people flap T in "interesting" as well though... kinda like "inneresting", is that an american thing?
When you say "go out for" I'd recommend pronouncing the /t/ with a glottal stop because generally an unstressed /t/ before a vowel sound is flapped ("get off") while an unstressed /t/ before a consonant sound is pronounced as a glottal stop ("go out for")
That's not t flapping, that's just another way to pronounce "interesting"
right.. i think if it was flapping it would sound like "inderesting"
yeah
actually I don't think it's a matter of stress, I think that happens whenever the t appears in the syllable coda, that is, at the end of a syllable, after the vowel
when /t/ is sandwiched between two vowels/syllables
hey i've got another question for ya
how do i pronounce "sick of" in "sick of some jerk"
hearing myself at that time feels unsatisfying
she has a good pronunciation for that one
hey Stipendi thank you lots for putting your time
you were a great help ngl
this website should be illegal, it's so good
It is a really good resource, I'm glad you like it
Hey how can i learn more English slangs which are generally used on movies or shows so that i can understand them better
Is there any specific book or some other resource for this?
@loud raft There are some websites
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22:08 Blowhard
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i'm not able to upload my audio file here.
<@&852814479569059840> can anyone help me ?
i tried uploading one file.
but its not showing up here after getting uploaded
You can use vocaroo if raw files won't work
could you guys help rate my accent?
In a bit
Pretty good over all :) certainly very understandable
Some points:
0:00 - "In 1776" has weird intonation, I don't know how to describe it in text
0:01 - "there" you used [d] for th. This happens for almost every other voiced th in the recording so I'll only mention it once
0:05 - In "many of these people", "many" sounded like "mini" and "these" has too much stress on it
0:07 - "ancestor" is stressed on the 1st syllable, not the 2nd
0:09 - "people in dare family like a parents or da grandparents", what words are meant to be before "parents" and "grandparents"?
0:14 - "were" sounded a little too much like "wear". Should just be "wr" like there's no vowel in the middle
0:15 - Grammatically this part should be "people who already lived in the US" but I'm not hearing the d at all. Also "US" is stressed on the 2nd syllable, not the 1st
0:18 - "belong to many" sounded like "belong, too many". "to" should be reduced to /tə/
0:19 - The diphthong of "tribes" began too far forward so it sounds somewhere between the FACE and PRICE diphthongs
0:19 - I couldn't hear the s in "groups"
0:29 - "the" should be /ðǝ/, i.e. not "thee"
0:31 - There was no /æ/ raising in "thanks", which is odd because you did it very well in language. & "thanksgiving" is stressed on the 2nd syllable
0:33 - You rounded the first vowel in "holiday". It should be more or less the vowel in e.g. "hot", optionally a little further back, but not rounded is the main thing
0:44 - You used voiceless th /θ/ in "this" (it was a perfectly good /θ/! just in the wrong place sadly)
0:45 - I couldn't hear the s in "Americans"
0:48 - "friends" sounded like "frence". It's fine to drop the /d/ but you have to still use /z/ and not /s/, and the vowel should be slightly longer
The main two points are:
- You're using [d] for th. You neeeed to have your tongue make proper contact with your upper front teeth. You don't have to push your tongue between your teeth (you can if you want), but you do need that contact. It'll also help if you make it a fricative (constant hissing sound instead of a sudden release) or an affricate (sudden release immediately into a hiss), although for many Americans, just making it dental is enough to change it from /d/ to /ð/
- Slow down!! There are barely any pauses between sentences and a lot of your words were said very quickly, so parts of them disappeared
OHH It blocks when I write "_ _" how completely inane
Thankyou so much for such a detailed review!
Thanks for putting the timestamp. I would surely work on all of my mistakes.
How do I lift the roof of my mouth to produce more "round" words? I sound nasally when I speak.
Hey, could ya be so kind and rate my accent 🙂 ?
wow 7/10 you still have an accent but it doesn't sound like you're opening your mouth wide enough. Still great 😃
thanks for your response 🙂
Hello! I'm a 15 y.o boy, that migrated from Belarus to California because of the war! I'm going to school in one week, so pls, rate my accent (learning English for 9 years)
It's really good although I can't quite understand some parts, but still it's nice
Thanks! There are some problems with microphone, usually, it doesn't sound like that :[
very thick accent, makes me feel like you're british? i don't know where belarus is
it's really nice but i personally can't understand some parts xd
Belarus is a country next to Russia and Ukraine) My teacher taught me British English, but I prefer trying American accent
aah i see! hence the war.. so sorry you had to move.
hope you're doing well in america. kinda my dream to visit CA someday. you and i both! i really prefer american english over british.. i suppose american movies can help a lot for accents
I wasn't trying to make an accent by movies, but I really liked to!
also youtube! watching american youtubers can help for accents
Thanks, I'll search for some
swaggersouls is my favorite. although their team aren't entirely american but swager's voice is really good
If someone would be kind enough to help me with my pronounciations
For reference, I tried to recite The Patriot by Robert Browning
Thanks!
can anyone rate my accent ?
Hello! Feel free do judge my reading skills!
Reference: The Blind Men and the Elephant
you sound rather slavic
dangit, your voice sounds so mature, while being as old as me lol
lol hahaha this is good or bad? Do you had some difficulty on understanding any part?
How can I send my voice here pls ? I can't send one I don't know how to send .....Help !
You can't upload RAW file here
It's gotta be in .mp3
Format
you can also use a website called vocaroo
https://vocaroo.com/ you record your voice clip and it send it as a link
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Can anyone rate my accent?
Oh Okay Thanks
its good but continue lookin brazillian
Uhm pardon, but I wanted to note again my request to help me!
send what you would like to be helped with
Maybe work on your R sound. I think noticed a you not doing the english R, but you are doing a tapped R with your tongue. Focusing on changing this would make some words much clearer.
On top of this, you should maybe look into trying to make vowel sounds clearer. often you are pronouncing vowel sounds slightly incorrectly to where to sounds like a different vowel (a: instead of ae for example). Your accent sounds rather like very posh english a lot of the time, which is a highly uncommon accent.
Do not be discouraged, obviously a better accent comes with practice and experience. Speak as much as you can with native english speakers and over time it will develop well.
Besides from these issues, I understood about 98% of what you said. So good job because that’s more than some english people I know.
I feel like practicing verbal english is helpless for me.. I sound too nasally 😢 and I feel "fake" like I'm faking a personality
send?
wdym by “fake”
it could just be the way ur voice is
The only way to improve for real is by speaking more ! do not be discouraged, just understanding english you’re already doing better than many other non native english speakers
Oh thankyou, that is verymuch appreciated
You help will be indeed very helpful to me 😄
Thanks again!
it feels like I'm faking a personality is what I'm trying to say sorry I couldn't really elaborate...
if it’s not your native language and you don’t use it verbally, your mind won’t be used to it. I suppose you’d just have to speak it more often and eventually this would go.
I believe i’ve seen research that suggests that bilingual or multilingual people have different personalities depending on what language they’re using. But this could just refer to people who have grown up speaking two languages
There seems to be a study, but its sample size is statistically insignificant (like only 50 subjects).
Hello guys I just joined here last 3 hours. I'm trying to learn an English Accent specifically, New York Accent. Can you rate my speech? Also, I would like to know what do you think of my speech. Thank you so much.
NY accent is not english. it’s a US accent
Though idk how to unlearn that. It could be that America isn't how it's presented in the media and perhaps everything surrounding that country could be grossly exaggerated and my "personality" for English is the exaggerated version of America, thus, affecting my speech in (or manner of speaking) American English...
They mean a native accent
Regardless the NY accent seems strange to want to imitate unless you’re in NY
I mean so long as you’re speaking it lol
I want my accent to be "undetectable" when I speak English.. but that would mean having to speak a lot.. like a lot..
that’s relatively impossible unless you’ve been completely and utterly surrounded by english in day to day life for like 20 years straight
Having a foreign accent isn’t a bad thing. It’s completely natural and it’s expected. Not having an accent is very extremely rare is almost impossible
Not impossible, but very hard indeed.
I mean practically speaking it’s nigh impossible. If you learn a language in your 20s or 30s and don’t have an incredible knack for accents, even after years of study and speaking, your accent will sound good, maybe very good, but still foreign
Yea, that occurs in the vast majority of cases; but a few actually make it.
I'm From India and my english is the best in here think...
Well, think again.
ahem interesting*
there are native speakers of english living in india
So what am I supposed to do then
Can anyone rate my accent ?
It's terrible.
Yeah. It's probably the microphone.
- My microphone is pretty bad.
- I have converted the raw recording online into mp3.
Thankyou so much for such an honest review.
I have never been to any english speaking country.
ur pronunciation was pretty good, just need to work with intonation and the flow of your words
Thanks in advance
got another audio clip. Can anyone rate it ?
somehow my microphone can't pick my 's' sound perhaps because its too old.
This is a voice note for me class. Reference:
"Hi, my name is Irvin. I have been studying how to teach Spanish for almost 3 years.
For me, teaching is helping people to improve their skills. Especially, when you’re learning a new language, you need someone to practice, to share the learned, to solve doubts, and, overall, to enjoy, the process.
That’s why my classes are planned to be practice and interactive, there you will be able to improve your conversational skills and learn with different resources".
Please, rate my accent. Any advice or grammatical mistake, tell me. I'm trying to learn IPA, but I still have problems
"Hi, my name is Irvin. I have been studying how to teach Spanish for almost 3 years.
For me, teaching is helping people to improve their skills. Especially, when you’re learning a new language, you need someone to practice, to share the learned, to solve doubts, and, overall, to enjoy, the process.
That’s why my classes are planned to be practice and interactive, there you will be able to improve your conversational skills and learn with different resources".
Your accent is pretty good, I can hear you speak clearly
I bolded the words that you need to practice on
learned should be pronounced like ler-nd
doubts should be pronounced like dow-bts
and if I were you, I'd change the last line of your first paragraph bc the words don't flow well
For me, teaching is helping people to improve their skills. Especially, when you’re learning a new language, you need someone to practice and learn with, solve issues, and overall enjoy the process
And also talk a bit slower. You got punctuation in a few places, so you need to pause clearly. Speaking a bit more slower(especially the first line)should make you sound more clear in what you want to say
Thank you very much, @stray depot 🔥
I'm gonna change it
Ok, ok, I will do it
no problem!
I can definitely hear that you are from a Spanish speaking country but everything is clear and easy to understand
And intelligibility is the most important thing
Thank u, Leonardo! 💪🏻
Any advice to improve my accent?
What accent do you have
I'm trying to learn American accent
i dont know how to share voice here
can u help
guess i did it
i am sick but i tired
Pretty good. Some words here and there were a bit unclear, but based on context I can fill in blanks. All in all, I didn't have much trouble understanding, and I don't think most English speakers will either. 👍
good job 👍
Studying is the progress of the code is not a good idea to get the dam box of the code is not a good idea to get the dam box of the code is not a good idea to get the dam box of the code is
thanks :))
Any tips on adopting a British accent? 
Hello, I'd like some tips not on speaking skills, but on hearing skills. It's not like I'm already an expert at speaking, but, i think being able to correctly interpret a different accent comes first. If anyone has any tips regarding it, pls help
Watch some interviews on yt with people who are from other countries and speak English, that way you get used to different accents.
can anyone rate my accent ?
6/10
9.5/10 - very clear and I was able to understand each word. 👍
I think that's a bit unreasonable. It was clear and understandable.
What conditions must be complied for a perfect accent?
Thank you so much.
Are you a native speaker ?
Also can you guess which country I'm from ?
From my accent ?
shadowing would be the best technique I would say. Watch your favourite youtube video and just repeat whatever that guy is saying.
Thanks alvin😊
agree
thats how i learned it too
this is my recording
Sounds pretty good to me
Can anyone rate my pronunciation of: six, sixth, sixths, mountain, mountains, curtain, curtains, sentence, sentences
guys what do I'm i missing and what do I need to work on
Guys, please use vocaroo.com.
If you're willing to go for the technical side of it, get yourself a course on accent and pronunciation. 👍
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Rate my accent
you're pretty good : )
I can understand you clearly
the t's and d's did catch my ears
but ig that's because of your native language
Hi
hii
the pronunciation of sixths sounds a bit weird to me
I don't know about the t's in the words following.
maybe that's the right in your accent
I'll work on that. Thank you!
i read the chat but in some parts i've misread it srry
sixths is hard for native speakers lol
Or just do it like Ed Sheeran and pronounce it as “sikth” 🙂
ty for the feed back
i was trying to improve
oh... its because i used to say the T sound, like in senTence or mounTain, but than i saw a tutorial correcting me, so i was trying to understand how i say that words properly, but tysm
Hey, Could you guys rate my accent ?
my microphone's quality is really bad TBH. Few words that i said won't be clear.
please sugges this in a good manner how to write this
one of my friend who was planning to go to usa for pursuing his masters because of which he has left his clg placement that was very good package but covid comes in picture that year, so his all plans were crushed up and now he is strugling to pursue a good paying job........so sometime it happens things not go according to our wish so grab the opportunity which you got at the time and with try to preapre or do for something besides.........this is what my opinion is
Your accent is pretty good.
It's more likely American
Thanks dude. I'm trying to make it even perfect.
idk it might be the right way in some accents.. we never know
In my accent, I'd usually find most pronounce a distinct 't'
Many do use a glottal stop but yours doesn't exactly sound like one
'proNUNciation' not proNOUNciation
the best way is to just pronounce it as 'sixth' or the way Indian English does
in my opinion

i even get around it just by saying six and use context to help

that's definitely the best way
i'm analphabet 😔
wait what
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All good mate clear and precise .but the last word ...during the early .... I did not nderstand
Thank you for your compliment. The last word is Holocene, I wasn't sure if that's the correct pronunciation, this is my first time encounter this word.
@keen pilot
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Ok tbh your accent is noticeable but only in so far as I can tell what your native language is. But other than that. I don’t really have much else to say sadly. You pronunciation is good. You don’t seem to stutter or struggle with any words you really said. And just by the way to speak it’s very clear you have a clear mastery of English speaking. I’m sure there are small things you need to improve on here and there but many of those things probably aren’t noticeable enough that it matters. Overall 
Thanks! I was expecting harsh critique, but I'm quite relieved
I don't talk to natives that often, and getting such compliments from one is definitely a win in my book
Yea your English seems fine. Hopefully I’ll see you around in vc one of these days and we can have a chat
Let me know your opinions regarding my accent.
Have a good day!
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Can Anyone Rate my Accent ?
my microphone's quality is pretty bad
your accent is pretty good.
Intonation's good too
Thanks
Your accent is good as well. Nice
https://voca.ro/1mEjW4QjDAB7 okay why not
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I know it's bad but you can only judge my accent not me pls 😭
who said it's bad ?
sounds pretty good
As I can see that you're a teacher, I'm rather keen to ask you if accents really determine one's English level
As far as I know, it's usually fluency, accuracy and choice of words
Being able to express one freely and giving out the message efficiently is what I feel is important
Having good accents is great but what exactly is a bad accent.
I understand if I hear your native language while you're speaking English is not something many do not like or prefer
But having a foreign accent is not always bad! What one must focus on is clarity
Your pronunciations must be distinct and clear and that is what most English learners be on the look for
I've seen many learners simply fretting about their accent and losing on actually learning the language properly
If you're trying to master a particular accent like the standard ones (British, Canadian, Australian, etc.) Then definitely we will have a lot to discuss about your accent
I can understand everything, so it's pretty good!
There are noticeable pronunciation things you could work on. The main ones are:
0:02 - "I'm recurding dis woice"
The "or" in "recording" should be the same as in "four", not "fur".
You used a normal /d/ instead of /ð/ in "this". Outside of some specific accents that merge them, these 2 sounds need to be different. The tip of your tongue must touch your teeth. Put the tip of your tongue against the back of your top front teeth and push air through, that will give you the sound in "thing". Then add voicing (same as turning s into z) and you will get the sound like in "this".
/w/ and /v/ are different sounds. /w/ is made by rounding your lips and pulling your tongue back. /v/ is made only by pushing your lower tip into your upper teeth.
0:13 - "your opeenions, your fitback"
Make sure you can reliably make the vowels of "beet" and "bit" different, because it sounds like you swapped them when you said this. The length of the vowels isn't very important, they are just different vowels with different sounds. "beet" is like the vowel in فیل, "bit" is not very far from the 1st vowel in پدر.
The issues above^ can affect how you're understood because they can make the difference between words.
Some stress-related things. These are not as important because they usually won't stop you being understood.
"to", unless you have reason to stress it, doesn't sound like "too"/"two". It instead has the schwa sound, /tǝ/. "If you're listening to this voice" is a place where it naturally uses this weak form
"accent" is stressed on the 1st syllable. You got this right the first time, but then the wrong way around at 0:17
Unstressed syllables tend to have schwa or no vowel at all, especially when they end in a sonorant. The second syllable of "level" is one of these. There shouldn't be much of a vowel in it at all, it's more like "levll", where you go straight from the v into the l.
Thanks.
Yes, it does.
Wow! Thanks for your feedback.
I quite agree with you, mate.
tbh this is debatable.. I feel one just needs to decide to what extend they wish to learn and what they want out of it. It's just their choice if they want to change/improve their accent as long as they are clear yeah
I’m gonna say no not at all. Your English just has to be understandable

Lemme fix it. If your accent is understandable, then you're fine. But, the more your accent is better, the more your English level will be higher.
It doesn't mean having a high level of English is only required a good accent. Having a good accent is a plus.
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could you give me some comments pls
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Hi
it's been a long time since I uploaded a judge my accent voice record, by the way, sorry if the mic's quality is bad. 😅
Almost sounds like a Native!
G'day! 😉 thank you very much! 🤍
feel free to point out any flaws in my pronunciation or accent, that's how I typically improve. 🤍
Recently I'm reading God of War (novel), feel free to leave suggestions and improvements
I would really love if someone can read this clip for me in British Accent
awww
are you looking to learn a British accent?
@hollow stratus Yeah! Actually I'm kinda working on that for a long time
then let's talk about some of the things I've noticed after listening to your piece
To ace a British accent you need to start from rock-bottom with-
- non-rhoticity
2)vowels
Also decide which British accent you want to go for as well
the RP one
a modern RP ic
My accent's a classic Indian one so I can't show you how to do it
but you need to focus on the pronunciation of: ||(almost everything)||
eye, steadied, quivering, arm, narrowing, focus, release, forcing, breaTH
there are others but these cover most
definitely need to work on the vowels, stress(which syllable is stressed in particular)
and the 'TH' sound
Got it 👍 Thanks for the assist
you're most welcome.
Take small steps at a time, work on non-rhoticity and some vowels for now
It was good.
Only one word, "breath". It sounds "Breeth", you pronounced it "breth"
Alr, Lemme fix it. That was my bad. You pronounced it properly.
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Breath is pronounced /brɛθ/ with an ɛ sound, as in get (/gɛt/).
Breathe is pronounced /brið/ with an i sound, as in need (/nid/).
Oh oh, my bad!
I thought it was "breathe"
Yeah, sorry. You're right.
My bad!
np 👍
But thanks for noticing.
A little chick trying to mimic the Britons, what are your thoughts ?
I am gonna have the citric acid, they say it works tremendously well when it comes to cleaning the stomach and making the chick grows bigger. Thanks for the notes
shorten the 'own' a bit
the pronunciation of the 'o' is correct but is slightly excessive
Noted down.
I'm not much good at accents so, please wait somebody else to provide proper feedback
Hlo
Please judge my British accent @craggy widget if I improved even a little
(if you still remember me 🙏 ) (Sorry for the ping too 😅)
moved. The 'o' will be a tiny bit longer and rounder
and ease a bit while pronouncing 'city'
It sounds good, you've definitely improved a lot
wait- but there isn't tough in the script I've read
After this I believe Alc will be able to guide you better
what's before mortar?
it's "tar for mortar"
no it was mine Ig I might've mispronounced it
no it's fine
are you free rn?
not really... I'm off to bed rn
I'm like a night owl so, sorry
It's 12 AM rn for me I've got to go sleep
I'd like to know if I have a hint of my Native language/ accent
Yamete kudasai!!!
I remember you yea lol
It's very good over all so as usual I'll just post a list of things I noticed:
0:01 - "Whole" sounded like "hall". "Whole" should be a diphthong by default, basically LOT + w. If you do make it a monophthong, you need to keep it roughly at LOT. This happens a bunch of other times but I'll only mention it here
0:07 - "moved eastward" these vowels were FOOT and KIT, they should be GOOSE and FLEECE
0:22 - "mor(ʔ)tar" can't put a glottal here I'm afraid, it makes the t sound geminated
0:33 - "ourselves" is really never pronounced with 3 syllables, "our" is smoothed to START
0:46 - "if as" this has to be /f/
1:00 - "they will" sounded like "there will"
1:04 - "scattered" shouldn't be aspirated (happens again later)
1:06 - "over (ʔ) all the (ʔ) Earth" you've used glottal stops where there really should just be approximants, /r/ and /j/
1:13 - "because" needs to be aspirated
A few of your /w/s need your tongue to be pulled back more (0:34 "otherwise", 1:00 "language", 1:10 "why")
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*I don't know this name so it's probably not what I wrote
hi
I found this short monologue https://voca.ro/1pbcBa4i2s9a
It's a bit tough to suppress the thick Colombian accent at times. I'd appreciate suggestions on what I should focus on
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Thanks dude
Thank you so much!
I didn't notice I pronounced mortar with a glottal stop.
I still confuse the /ʊ/ and /ɪ/ with /u:/ and /i:/ sometimes, sorry.
Is there a pattern or a hint that would indicate something has to be aspirated?
I guess the way I pronounced /w/s was from my Native tongue.
But what you've said is much comfortable and easier way to pronounce the /w/ Thank you!! 🥂
After voiceless fricatives, stops lose aspiration
So the /k/ in "scattered" isn't aspirated because it has /s/ before it
There's something to be said for writing it as /'sga.tǝd/ because of this
The exception to this rule is if the fric and the stop belong to different morphemes, like in a compound word (gastight is aspirated) or with a prefix (miscalculate is aspirated)
Aspiration is important because UNaspirated /p t k/ can easily sound to English speakers like /b d g/. But there are some contexts in which English DISALLOWS aspiration!
How to DO aspiration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PSdlctYBsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe6MIo816jo
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how do i know how the I is pronounced in a word? every word it's pronounced in a different sound, as in "Like" and "Live"
It's not different in every word, there's a pretty small set of pronunciations for <i>
There are also rules to predict it, they just have exceptions
When you have i + only 1 consonant + vowel it tends to be like "like"
If there's more than 1 consonant or there's no vowel, it tends to be like "kit"
"live" is an exception, it can be read in both ways depending on the meaning
(a regular example would be "ride", "rid", "riding", "ridding", where the above rules work)
Somewhere on the wiki page for english orthography I think there's a big table giving rough rules for the different values of each letter
i see
so in "different" like i said in my first message is the ɪ
from IPA
thanks man
there's another sound besides these two said?
so followed by 1consonant + vowel is always the 'aɪ' sound? like in price
is there some kind of chart of pronunciation rules? i know the IPA but i want to know the rules for when i have to pronounce these sounds
Not always, exceptions like "live", "give", "pivot", "linear", the suffix "-ify" etc exist, but for stressed syllables most of the time it works
It is yes
To be honest, it's only worth learning a few rules at most
The more rules you learn, the more exceptions you're going to have to keep track of
It becomes complicated fast
After major rules, it's easier to just look up the sound of a word if you don't know it/can't remember, rather than trying to guess
But anyway
how does this work
Is there any teacher in this room?
is there anybody that will rate my accent?
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She's using the correct syllable stress and intonation but she still sound fake and weird
Why is that
Nd what is she lacking ?
Honestly she sounds fine to me, it could be her accent
Yea she sounds fine
I was just curious to know
Well, I think if she isn´t a native speaker she´ll obviously sound "weird" like anybody else who doesn´t have english as their main language.
But she sounds fine tho
She’s Indian.
Her English is understandable, but she mispronounces a few consonants.
This isn’t really an ‘accent thing’ - I can only guess that she hasn’t learned the correct way to enunciate the English consonant ‘V’. At -8.22 she says ‘Pause the Wideo instead of Video. In English, the letters ‘W’ and ‘V’ are produced in different parts of the mouth.
V and F are ‘consonant pairs’, not V and W.
Anyone would like to hangout on vc?
me
anyone wanna practice english conversations cuz i dont wanna get a D in my next speaking exam 😦
is my pronunciation good?
it’s pretty good!
maybe this can help https://www.wikihow.com/Lose-Your-Accent
Azerbaijani?
You sound like CaspianReport
But your pronunciation is good
Im from lebanon
Oh ok
me🙋♂️
I do appreciate it.
Yup! It's perfectly understandable
Where r u from ?
hi there!! im from russia, not aiming for any specific accent.
please, rate my pronunciation & accent (is what i'm saying atleast somewhat understandable?)
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and yeah excuse the slurring of the words, i've underslept big time today LMAOO
It's not bad. However, it do needs some work. Your pronunciation is not bad. However, your accent is still quite strong.
As you said before you did slur some words. You need to be able to pronounce it a bit more clearly. I’m not able to understand some of the things you’re saying but you’re at a good level right now, just need to lessen the thickness and be more clear with your words 👍
it's very good
ty!
I had some trouble understanding what you were saying, but after listening again I could get most of it. Like Kiu said I think clearer pronunciation would help.
Also you really sound like a native brit from the countryside lmao
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Please help me with my pronunciation, guys.
thank you for the feedback!!
Hey guys! When I saw this thread on this server, I was like OMG!
I've always wanted feedback on my accent! Well, here's my audio, I'm super open to constructive criticism,.
Thank you
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I'm a not a native, and I think your pronunciation is just really good.
yeah ur pronunciation and fluency is a bit off. For example instead of aGreed you said aWeed. I think first before anything you need to learn what letter makes what sound
For example A makes auh, G makes guh
If you look on youtube you will find multiple vids, and they will help quite alot
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because it says what letter makes what sound
thank you
Hi
Thank you 😁
your accent is very clear and understandable! with more speaking practice you'll get faster and smoother for sure
Oh thank you so much 🌻
how you form sentences sounds a tiny bit odd but I could still understand what you were saying completely
like "I am going to Canada to do college" You would just say, "I am going to Canada for college"
small things that you'll get better at
Ok I see
I think that sometimes I have a problem with translation, because in that example that you give me, my mistake was to translate in my head (from Portuguese to english)
And I'm still getting the hang of it 😂
And thank you for your help
You're welcome! This happens often 😄 when my dad was learning English he did similar things from his Mexican background, like saying things like "For me I think it's good" instead of just "I think it's good"
Yeah 😂😂
I'd recommend you to decrease the usage of 'you know'. Since you're going for college to Canada you'd need some idea of formal English to be spoken with professors. I've seen many non-native speakers use the phrase brilliantly to dodge having to elaborate on things and at one point they start subconsciously using it
Wrong channel but nice intro

Yes it's quite true!
Hi
Hello
hi
https://voca.ro/174qPeq2So59 rate it out of 10 (british pronunciation)
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All in all,
I think you should emphasise pronouncing both your 'T' and 'D' sounds
If you haven't done already, you could go to YouTube and watch some British ppl talking, and notice how they pronounce 'T' and 'D'.
Sometimes you become rhotic and sometimes you become non-rhotic.
Quoting Katy Perry here: Enunciate the words.

I'd suggest you to open your mouth a bit more while pronouncing the different vowels
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Hiya, I’d really appreciate it if someone gave me some feedback on my accent
Thanks :))
It's perfect
Hello, guys! I would like to you judge my pronunciation to know if the understanding is clear or not.
