📚｜english-questions

[cloud badge]

They don't always. You can include the 'and' or not include it. You can use both, one, or none. It's not a rule, just a preference but not including it is less formal.

[sacred mirage]

we are talking about speech, no?

in speech you say the and

[bitter hill]

no copies of which survive
In cgel it'd be classified under type II percolation i believe

[cloud badge]

So you could say it like 'six hundred and seventy-two thpusand, seven hundred and eighty two' or like 'six hundred, seventy-two thousand, seven hundred eighty-two' and yes this is common and accepted in casual speech

Itd also be more common to put the and in the 2nd half but not the first half of the number but both, either, or none are all accepted.

There's a song in the musical rent that is a good example. They sing 'five hundred twentyfive thousand six hundred minutes. How do you measure, measure a year' and that's how i remember how many minutes are in a year haha

[sacred mirage]

to me, it sounds weird without the and

[boreal ingot]

As a professor of linguistics, [it is essential that I be well-spoken and that I be refined in my diction], [as not to] let doubt as to my ability arise.

Is the first part in brackets correct? Have I used the subjunctive properly?

Is the second part also correct? Without the 'so'

(note, I am not a professor of linguistics I'm just making an example sentence to use the structure, lol)

[cloud badge]

It doesn't sound great but I believe it is technically correct and that the usage of the subjunctive is correct. The part that jumps out to me as being the most incorrect though is not in brackets, its the 'as' after the brackets. If i were to make a more realistic sentence (for the sake of discussion) as if i were a professor of linguistics, I would rephrase it like this.

'As a professor of linguistics, it is essential (that I am/for me to be) well spoken and have (refinement in my diction/refined diction), (as not to/as to not) let any doubt of my abilities arise.'

[flat rune]

do you mean verbal tenses?

[boreal ingot]

'doubt as to my ability' is wrong?

Im not looking for a realistic sentence, just trying to use 'that I be', though

[boreal ingot]

But I do want to know how that's wrong

[sacred mirage]

the that i be is correct here

[cloud badge]

I didn't write the realistic sentence for you, i did it for my own entertainment and for the sake of discussion, as i often do. Just saying because you always point that out whenever I add extra information. And yes 'doubt as to my ability' SEEMS wrong because you don't have doubt to an ability, you have doubt of an ability.

[boreal ingot]

'as to' is its own thing though

[cloud badge]

Correct

[boreal ingot]

Doubt about my ability

So how does it not work

I suppose it's best to pluralise ability

But I mean otherwise, what is the issue

Cuz im not saying the doubt is 'to my abilities', the doubt is 'about my abilities', and a synonym of 'about' would be 'as to', am I mistaken?

Perhaps it isn't natural to have two 'as'-es in such close proximity

Maybe that's what threw you off

But I would imagine it's correct grammatically

[boreal ingot]

Thanks

[boreal ingot]

By 'seems' wrong you mean it isn't?

[flat rune]

i still dont understand the idiom ''as to ''

[cloud badge]

It seems wrong, as it feels unnatural to say and is not the prefered, common way of phrasing a sentence like that. It may be grammatically correct, as English is extremely flexible, but it's unlikely you'll find native speakers who would use that, and yeah, the double 'as to' definitely adds to that. It's just my advice for it to sound more natural and like a native speaker is saying it, rather than it sounding like an excercize for using 'as to' and 'I be'.

[boreal ingot]

I see

Thanks

[cloud badge]

It's just another way of saying so, or 'in order to' pretty much.

[flat rune]

oh okay

thank you very much

[boreal ingot]

Can mean either 'so as to' (in order to) or 'relating to'

[boreal ingot]

Two meanings

[flat rune]

so you are a linguistic person

thanks both for the explanation

[boreal ingot]

I'd like to learn about linguistics, but no I'm not that well-versed in it

[cloud badge]

Kind of just an etymology/linguistics nerd :p

Id have gone to school for it if i didn't hate writing essays so much 😅

[sacred mirage]

when I think of as not to

it would connect with a negative, not always tho

like, as not to cause harm/offence/alarm

[cloud badge]

yeah, you pretty much can replace it with 'to not', as not to is like, just a more flowery way of saying it.

[sacred mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-24282557

yes most definitely

[cloud badge]

you can also say, 'as to not' or 'as not to' interchangeably

[sacred mirage]

sorry, I would write full responses and my thoughts etc; im currently in bed on my phone about to sleep, so maybe not

[cloud badge]

sure sure, hav a good sleep then c:

[sacred mirage]

haha, have a good… whatever time it is for you right now

[cloud badge]

its almost 8pm here in new jersey c: thanks ^-^

[sacred mirage]

ooo thats such a weird time

is it late evening or night?

[lone belfry]

Last month we finally got a chance to have a trip to E’mei Mountain, which we longed to do for ages．It was there that I was amazed 2. the most beautiful scenery I had ever seen! Can I put “at” in blank 2? The correct answer is “by”

Yeah, I asked ChatGPT about it, and it said the difference is really subtle. So I feel like this is not a good quiz😂

Yeah, that’s pretty much what I have found.

Thank you

Yeah, but I can’t quite feel the difference in its tone, especially when it asks you to fill the blank. I think it may depend on what the author is trying to say.

[chilly coyote]

putting "at" in the blank would be wrong

[stone jackal]

Is it pork roll or taylor ham?

[lone belfry]

🥹Can you tell me the reason?

[chilly coyote]

I don't know what the grammatical reason is but no one would say "at" in that situation instead of "by"

I know thats not very helpful

[lone belfry]

Or can you give me a similar sentence using “at”? So that I can try to feel it

[chilly coyote]

I was amazed at how well he played the piano

[lone belfry]

I got it, thank you

[flat rune]

How to correct this sentence have error?

Oh

Can you also say “hadn’t”

[stone jackal]

https://linguix.com/english/preposition/preposition-after-verb/view/amaze-at-amaze-by

[boreal ingot]

Idk it sounds fine to me

[verbal heron]

"He avenged himself on the perpetrator"

"He avenged himself on the perpetrator"

[boreal ingot]

yea like what does it mean

[verbal heron]

He took revenge on the criminal

[stone jackal]

I would have chosen by and not at as well.

[verbal heron]

Thanks 🙏🙏💀

[boreal ingot]

I see, just looked it up. I'd never seen this usage before now

[verbal heron]

In my opinion, the second sentence could be used in a different sense
"She has a beautiful eye for problem solving", though it's unnatural but can be used in some context to imply that "she" is a "keen" problem solver. (Only in a figurative sense)
While the idea in the third sentence can be used like the following
"She has the same beautiful eyes as her mother"

[verbal heron]

The more you read, the more you learn, right 😅.

[boreal ingot]

wow discord hates you lol

[verbal heron]

yea xD

[bitter hill]

I had that thought for the second one too

[boreal ingot]

Anyway, this sentence doesn't feel very natural, how do I fix it?
context: we react on every welcome message with what number the person is lol

there are like 130 ppl there I think

[boreal ingot]

every single*

[verbal heron]

Yea, there is even an expression "an eye for an eye", taking it as a reference we can form an other sentence
"The eagle has a beautiful eye for snakes"

(Figurative)

[boreal ingot]

I don't see why 'beautiful' would be used

I see 'good' working, 'keen'

but 'beautiful'?

No reason

[verbal heron]

Using keen would make it a low-key

[boreal ingot]

huh

[verbal heron]

yea

[boreal ingot]

I don't get what youre saying

[verbal heron]

but it has the same meaning with the sentence "The eagle has a keen eye", but the first one would not be used in daily conversations

[boreal ingot]

I just don't think 'has a beautiful eye for [x]' works

that's what I'm saying

You could say has a good eye for [x], a great eye for [x], a keen eye for [x]

[verbal heron]

but why don't you think it works?

[boreal ingot]

I just don't see how beautiful works

[verbal heron]

in a poetic sense, given there is a context, it might do

[deft lily]

ok so i dont really know whats happening, nor do i know english all that well, but from context, im gonna guess that yall are talkin about whether 'keen' or 'beautiful' should be used in the figurative on "the eagle has a ___ eye for snakes"

and on that, i think it could be situational, but idrk- keen would be used in describing how skilled/specialized the eagle is and beautiful i guess could be used as a statement of admiration, but again, im not too sure.

[boreal ingot]

when you have an eye for something, you are good at noticing it. This ability you have can be good, it can be great! It can be amazing, but how can this ability be 'beautiful'

[deft lily]

ditto

[verbal heron]

You are right, of course keen/sharp/acute would be used in that sense, like the point of a language is to get the point across, why would one be inclined to get people confused? But as you know, in the deft hands of a poet, anything can occur (apart from the wrong usage of collocations); we know how intricate, figurative languages a poet uses to animate his poem

[deft lily]

uhhh

can i get some clarification on what exactly it is we are talkin about- you seem to have lost me 😅

[verbal heron]

Yea, you are right, the ability has been described as beautiful by the speaker, as 'beauty' can be subjective

Yea, you are right, the ability has been described as beautiful by the speaker, as 'beauty' can be subjective

[boreal ingot]

Interestingly, the AI of ludwig seems to think it's fine, and it can find 1 exampel using it

Maybe it works, but it must be uncommon

[bitter hill]

Well more generally about the phrase to have an eye for something

[bitter hill]

Yes it sounds fine with the right context

To me anyway

[boreal ingot]

(the other 15 aren't exactly 'have a beautiful eye for', just phrases containing all the words)

[deft lily]

heres how I would put it- just from rephrasing that sentence (i am no professional, so ask someone else too just in case lol):

"Consider this, everyone. Some of us original members of the server will be the only ones here to have reacted to every single message in #welcome. There are hundreds of members now "

ok so that was as good as i could get it on my dead brain rn, so feel free to completely ignore/correct/use/do whatever you want with the sentence above.

[chilly coyote]

It sounds weird

[boreal ingot]

You did change the meaning a bit.

when there are thousends
became
There are hundreds now

But this is much more formal that what I was going for :p

but I like that use of 'to have'

[deft lily]

i see what you mean- in this context, i'm assuming the writer is baffled by the scenery, not baffled at the scenery. i would think that this situation wouldn't mean the writer was doing the action of or feeling at the scenery, if that makes sense. the scenery is the one "baffling" the writer.

in which i would agree. it does sound rather peculiar

[deft lily]

oops sry- i saw you said in a following message there were 130 ppl there. 🙃

also the message seemed like an announcement, so i thought it to be formal.

[boreal ingot]

Think about this, you all. We who've been around from the start will be mostly the only ones to have reacted to every message in #welcome when there are thousands of people here!

I feel this mixes yours and mine well. Do you think it's natural?

[deft lily]

yeah that sounds great to me

[boreal ingot]

nono, I was just having a 'think about this' moment

[deft lily]

ah, so in a general chat of sorts

[boreal ingot]

yeye

[deft lily]

well then in that case, your 'blend' sounds great

[boreal ingot]

thanks

[cloud badge]

pork roll 100%. Taylor pork roll is on the package, it doesnt qualify to be ham, north jersey is WRONG xD hahaha

[cloud badge]

Id consider 8pm evening in the summer when its still a little light out, but, its been dark for hours so, id say night. :p

[flat rune]

HEY

how do you studie english

[cloud badge]

I personally read books and when I dont understand something i look it up in the dictionary or online, and I watch videos about etymology and accents and dialects, but, Im a native speaker, so I mostly learned through school o.o

some things are just purely memorization. some things are pure preference. i think it just takes imersion to get the hang of really

[flat rune]

i get stressed because written language is easy to learn but listening and speaking is complicated

[cloud badge]

well the good thing there is that, well, usually, speaking is much more casual than most writing, so you dont need to worry about rules, as long as the person youre talking to can understand somehow what you mean

[flat rune]

what comes first ?

[acoustic geyser]

When do I use this structure:
What/when/where/how/which + to + verb

[flat rune]

yeah i have no problem with english grammar i'm advanced at that

at least in a 80%

but people use so much words to express something that i stress

well, thank you for your advice @cloud badge

you english people use a lot of phrasal verbs

for example a robber who broke in to steal something

:v

[rapid bison]

this is a correct observation 😳

[flat rune]

i recently learnd that phrasal verb xd

to brake in

[rapid bison]

should I scare you with the legendary "put up with" :3

[cloud badge]

are you worried about not usung enough words? because honestly, usually poeple use more words when they dont know what theyre trying to say. the more concise you can be the better. unless youre like, writing poetry or something creative. its good to be concise. My english teachers would always tell us the KISS rule at the beginig of the year. it stands for 'keep it simple, stupid" cuz youll be easier to understand c:

[flat rune]

jajaj

alright

hey

by the way

i never understood what is the diference between ''would and use to''

i use to run
i would run

[cloud badge]

its 'used to' and it means I did in the past but i dont or cant anylonger. Would is about the future. you can kind of think about it like a combination of will and could. I would do something if i was able but im not so I can not do it. I used to be able to. I wish i still could.

when people are asked to do something they cant do, people often reply 'I would, if i could, but i cant, so i wont'

[flat rune]

alright i almost got it

[cloud badge]

theres a good joke from the comedian Mitch Hedberg, he says "I used to do drugs... I still do, but I used to, too"

[flat rune]

i would have always love you forever i

xd i invented that one

[cloud badge]

hahaha :p

[flat rune]

a little awkard and funny

[cloud badge]

yeah, most of his jokes were like that, i reccomend checking him out, he does a lot of word plays

[lone belfry]

So there is something natives can feel while non-native speakers cannot🤣🥲

[flat rune]

diferences between switch and shift?

[flat rune]

Yes

[signal shell]

But you certainly can also use 'would' in many cases where 'used to' is used, just like your example. 'would' has a more broad range of uses that 'used to' doesn't have. The way I always say it, the difference between 'would' and 'could' is the same difference between 'will' and 'can'. It's just that 'would' and 'could' are often used in the past or in imaginary hypothetical scenarios.

[flat rune]

yeah like : i could help you but you didn't want me to
could you like to eat an apple for me?
they would walked at the corner's road until a truck arrived so close to them they got a shock.

i think the road scene is wrong

[signal shell]

*would you like to

I don't think 'could you like to' is ever a phrase you should use.

[flat rune]

or could you help me with something

[signal shell]

Yes that works

[flat rune]

haha yeah

[signal shell]

You could say ' could you eat an apple for me?'

[flat rune]

what is the diference between switch and shift?

do you know about that?

[signal shell]

They do have their similarities. Let me think

[flat rune]

i know shift is related at work

[signal shell]

Like, they are almost the same thing, but the abstract image I have in my head for what each looks like is somewhat different

[signal shell]

Right, as a noun, you can have a shift at work

But as a verb, the two words are almost the same

[flat rune]

so i can use it as it were a switch

[signal shell]

Like. Switching is like flipping over or swapping out with something else. Shifting is sliding over to a parallel, but different, function or area.

That's the image I have in my head

[flat rune]

alright

i made you think xd

[signal shell]

So, you can switch the lights on, but you shift to a different gear.

[flat rune]

jmmm okay

[signal shell]

Because, with the lights, you can change it by flipping the switch to a different state. And with the gears, you change it by moving/sliding over to a parallel gear

[flat rune]

Is there English idioms database

Somewhere?

[delicate bay]

I've heard about the textbook "English idioms in use"

[flat rune]

Hmm

[verbal heron]

Imagine you are writing a poem describing the essence of 'beauty' , where you have replaced so many adjectives with 'beautiful' , then it's more likely that you would replace the word 'keen' with 'beautiful' to engage the readers, while even the readers are sure about the poet's awareness of the fact that 'keen' is the most fitting there

[verbal heron]

There would be thousands of books regarding idioms, but you have to learn their proper usage in context, a book about idioms won't be able to teach you that. You must stick to literature (even reading articles or dictionaries might do) if you want to add them to your vocabulary

[burnt parcel]

can an accent affect english? i mean like how people can understand what i am talking about

[sacred mirage]

Yes absolutely

[burnt parcel]

I am still a beginner in English. When speaking directly I can't respond quickly and I have to understand first. how I can speak directly fluently without stuttering and making mistakes? thank you

but when typing I can do it pretty well

[sacred mirage]

It’s okay to be slow at first as that’s part of your journey, but these are some ways to improve:

Practise regularly, try and speak English as much as you possibly can, if that’s frightening for you at first, you can record yourself speaking and play it back to look for mistakes or use the #🗒｜pronunciation channel.

You could also watch alot of English videos and movies, like consistently and for multiple hours and while watching you should shadow what they are saying, repeat after them or while they are speaking

Think in English: Instead of translating from your native language, try to think directly in English. This can help you respond more quickly and naturally.

[dreamy cradle]

Hello there! I have a question. How is the "lived" in "a long-lived sheep" pronounced? Please also explain the reason.

[topaz ingot]

Levd

[topaz ingot]

^

[sacred mirage]

its more livd

[dreamy cradle]

Thank you. I couldn't tell if it was "láiv" or "rib."

[sacred mirage]

https://youglish.com/pronounce/lived/english/uk

[topaz ingot]

Levd/livd but not leevd

Like the "le" in French but you add "–vd"

[dreamy cradle]

Ok Thank you. I am studying by reading ”The Little Prince”.

[verbal heron]

Is it possible to acces the phonetic symbols in the keyboard?

[topaz ingot]

Np

[topaz ingot]

Maybe if you set up shortcuts to it but not that I know of

[dreamy cradle]

Thank you!

[verbal heron]

ah, ok, no worries

[cloud badge]

If you learn the alt codes and they're enabled with the language used on your keyboard then you should be able to. Standard us English keyboards should have them enabled by default i think.

[verbal heron]

Can you write down some codes?

[cloud badge]

https://www.alt-codes.net/

The way you do it is you hold alt, then you use your number pad keys on the right of the keyboard to put in the code. When you've typed each key then you let go of alt and the symbol should show up. If it doesn't work you may need to click the num lock key. If it still doesn't it may be a keyboard language setting.

[boreal ingot]

you can use the ipa keyboard on android devices I think

I don't know if there is a pc eqevelant though

[boreal ingot]

I can't find anything on 'faf' that would fit the context, what word is he saying?

https://youtu.be/gZ1gbGwSaVc?t=823

[flat rune]

What is the difference between these sentences : He got me through the wall. He got me across the wall.

[boreal ingot]

It won't link to the timestamp for some reason, so check at 13:43

[flat rune]

Also the difference between these others sentences : My journey is going to exhaust me. My trip is going to exhaust me. My going is going to exhaust me.

[rapid bison]

*these other sentences

[flat rune]

Ty for correcting me

I listened to a music

And it said

My going

As a trip

At the beginning

I had no idead what it meant

Idea*

But when i translated ig

It*

I noticed it meant trip

As a synonym

[rotund swallow]

doesn't mean "my going" the action of leave

¿

[acoustic geyser]

Hello

What's different between
You should study
You should be studying

[flat rune]

I bet it's an old english

Isn't it ?

No english speaker would use going as a trip

[rotund swallow]

the progression of the action

[flat rune]

You should study means in general

On the other side

[rotund swallow]

"you should be studying" refers that you should study right now

[tepid bough]

should study refers to the future, which means you will study
should be studying refers to sth that is currently happening, which means you aren’t studying now and you should do that now

[flat rune]

You should be studying is often accompanied by now ztc

[rotund swallow]

yeah, like he said

[flat rune]

So my going is going is wrong ?

[acoustic geyser]

Thanks

[rotund swallow]

i guess it's more metaphorical than other thing

[tepid bough]

trip and journey have different meaning

[rotund swallow]

in that context, according to Gemini, "my going" refers the action leaving

[flat rune]

Ty

[rotund swallow]

Obviously, if you say it in a phrase like this " My going is going to exhaust me." it can sound awkward

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-dancing-cat-chinese-dancing-cat-funny-cat-meme-cat-gif-2930603548289911702

[tepid bough]

how to write a good thesis statement and conclusion? i find it hard to write it well

[flat rune]

What about set off, get out, get away, leave, quit, go out and go away.

[flat rune]

Give me the context

[tepid bough]

that’s in an essay

[flat rune]

Ok

May you be more specific.

[rapid bison]

why is there a space before the question mark again

[flat rune]

Oh yes i've forgotten

Sry

[boreal ingot]

?

[rapid bison]

the period is not right either... but technically not "wrong"? it's colloquial 🤔

[boreal ingot]

no that's fine

It's weird but grammatical

My going to the party exhuasted me
for example ^

Now instead of 'exhuast' you're using the verb 'is going'

[rapid bison]

exhuast 😭

[boreal ingot]

This to me sounds like you plan on going, and plan on what will happen after you go

[boreal ingot]

I can't spell, but that's not my point

[rapid bison]

point taken
continue on

[flat rune]

Oh ok ty when i reading that sentence

I am*

I see it weirdly

[boreal ingot]

It's like, you're planing to go, and you're expecting the exhaustion

My going to the part is going to exhaust me, but I am free to sleep as long as I want afterwards, so it's okay

since 'is going' is really certain, you're very sure that going will exhaust you when you say that

Anyway, this is pretty formal, @flat rune. In day-to-day English, people don't tend to use possessive determiners with gerunds

And using 'going' twice makes it sound weird, but it makes sense and is grammatical

[flat rune]

So it'q completely different from trip etc

I have understood now

[boreal ingot]

Yeah, it's talking about the action of going

[flat rune]

It's clearer than 10 minutes ago

Ty for explaining it to me well

[boreal ingot]

gerunds are like the noun form of the verb, basically, so you can add 'his', 'my' and other possessive nouns before them ('The boy's running was starting to annoy her'). You can do this with most verbs

[boreal ingot]

np

[flat rune]

Also What is the difference between these : set off, get out, get away, leave, quit, go out and go away. Sry for all of that, i know all of them except set off.

I can'r express my hating on phrasal verbs

Can't

[boreal ingot]

?

[dry estuary]

can i ask some irrevelant question here?

[tepid bough]

set off= begin to go
get out= to leave a building
leave= go away
go away= leave a place
go out= leave a room in order to do sth for entertainment
quit= leave a place (often permanently)

they are quite similar to each other

[topaz ingot]

Depart

[past spruce]

Hi guys , I want to ask how I can study literature ❔

[flat rune]

wage or salary ?

[topaz ingot]

Books and book clubs

#1217474137266585711

[boreal ingot]

:0000

[topaz ingot]

:DD

[flat rune]

Are theu inyerchangeable ?

Interchangeable*

[tepid bough]

depends on that context

[flat rune]

Oh ok but most of time they are interchangeable, right?

[tepid bough]

i don’t think so with set off and get out

hard to say for me

[verbal heron]

Isn't it how one has to do it in windows?

[verbal heron]

do I have to install it?

[cloud badge]

Perhaps, what os are you using?

[verbal heron]

Ah, I am using a mobile phone rn

I don't use discord through lappy

[cloud badge]

Oh oh, im not sure then, you may have to download a keyboard app that has more symbols.

[verbal heron]

alright, thanks

[cloud badge]

Hes using the british slang word 'faff' usually used as part of the phrase 'faff about' which is another way of saying 'mess around' or like doing something that takes a lot of time but doesn't get much done in a relaxed unbothered kind of way

[boreal ingot]

yea, it's a keyboard you install like any other language keyboard

[verbal heron]

what is it called?

[boreal ingot]

I see I see, than kyou. It makes sense I didn't get much when I googled 'faf'

wasn't sure how to spell it

[boreal ingot]

...

IPA

it's not some app

it's like, one of the language keyboards you can get

[boreal ingot]

@verbal heron

[verbal heron]

it can't be found

[boreal ingot]

wdym

[stone jackal]

Lol ... for me it remains Taylor Ham. And a sub is not a hoagie either! Lol 😀

[cloud badge]

well, congratulations, you are objectively wrong and I will fight u over it.

hahaha

jkjk

[past spruce]

Ok,thanks

[cloud badge]

thoughts on "central jersey"?

[alpine gyro]

Guys is this b or d

Is this one consequently? A? Or is it b?

[wary nimbus]

hello, I have a doubt about what this means

[modest nimbus]

hellooo

what is a person inflexible? 😄

[boreal ingot]

Iwould say A

[boreal ingot]

How do you describe cereal when it's not crunchy anymore cuz it was left out too long?

stale?

[alpine gyro]

Same tysmmm!

[cloud badge]

Yup, stale can refer to texture change, or taste, depending on the food, because it's been left out too long or gotten old. My friend won't drink a glass of water if it's been sitting out too long cuz apparently it tastes stale to them.

[boreal ingot]

Tyy

[lyric parcel]

do i have to add "s" at end in a sentence like this - "what does that says about X?" or just the first one - does?

[sly pier]

No, just “does”

It should be :
“What does that say about X?”

[opaque topaz]

Some of these questions r like AP English questions 😭

[boreal ingot]

What's AP

Sorry I'm really ignorant 😅

[opaque topaz]

advanced placement

It’s like a type of high school course

Thats harder than it’d normally be

[boreal ingot]

Ohh i see

F's questions, maybe?

They certainly are high level

[opaque topaz]

No they arent rlly the same style

But difficulty I think so

[bitter hill]

Those are SAT questions

[boreal ingot]

So easier or harder?

[opaque topaz]

Omg the sat was sat this week

[bitter hill]

🤷‍♂️

[opaque topaz]

literally yesterday

my friend took the sat

[boreal ingot]

Lol

[opaque topaz]

They r around the same lvl as AP questions

Ap courses r meant to prepare u for the sat

And basically go hand in hand

[boreal ingot]

I see, I'm defo not AP-level English then :/

F's questions stump me sometimes

[opaque topaz]

I don’t think it’s rlly abt that

a lot of people in ap won’t know the answer I bet or they’ll take just as long

Bc the emphasis in courses like tjat isn’t for you to have a super nuanced understanding of the rules and every logical thing or whatever

And instead it’s on like

Comprehension, vocabulary, and literary analysis

[boreal ingot]

Makes sense

Thank you for explaining 💜

[opaque topaz]

Ofc!!!

[boreal ingot]

Anyway, I'm off to sleep. I hope you have a great day :>

[opaque topaz]

Oh but don’t take my word for it I’m in ib (a similar program) so it’s similar but not the exact same!

[opaque topaz]

Same gn!

[acoustic geyser]

What is the difference between deduction and prediction?

[gaunt mango]

A deduction usually comes after a conclusion from evidence.
“The detective deducted that the assailant was stabbed by the victim because of the trail of blood that didn’t match the victims.” (Sorry best thing I could think of)

A prediction is usually a future deduction made from evidence. (But it doesn’t necessarily have to strictly be from evidence)
“He predicted that the former world champion boxer would easily trump the newbie who has never boxed in his life”
“He predicted that his favorite team would with their next football matchup”

[night ferry]

Hey, wassup, do you guys have any tips for me to learn and practice comprehension and the meanings of phrasal verbs? I already asked for it here, and someone recommended me a YouTube channel, so I watched all the videos, but I still have doubts about it, and idk how to study and practice more and more 'till I master it well.

[cloud badge]

you would use 'deduced' rather than 'deducted' here. deducing is like taking out (deducting/subtracting) the relevant information from all of the information you have gathered, to come to a clear conclusion. Deducting is more of a math specific word, and means taking away from something. A prediction is more of a guess, usually one based on information you have, and is something you do before you have all of the evidence you need to decuce the truth. a guess about something in the future, while a deduction is more of an observation of the current truth.

[cloud badge]

what do you need help with specifically? I feel like most of those are just learned through memorizing and imagining what typically goes with what. so, id guess just reading and practicing using them as often as you can.

[night ferry]

Oh, just by saying that you already helped me!

My thanks to you!

[flat rune]

difference between deduce and deduct

[rapid bison]

one is to infer
one is to remove

your choice as to which one

[flat rune]

Are they interchangeable though ?

[rapid bison]

...why do you still have the space before the "?" 😭

[flat rune]

Dang

[zenith ether]

nawp

[flat rune]

I forget everytime

[rapid bison]

they're not interchangeable at the slightest

[flat rune]

May you give some examples?

[signal shell]

i can see your confusion though, because they both derive the word deduction

and, in some ways of thinking, they kinda do have similar meanings

they both end up reducing the whole into a lesser portion

"deduce" is when you are narrowing down the list of possibilities, like trying to determine who is the guilty criminal when starting with a long list of suspects

"deduct" is when you are taking some quantity away from a larger whole, like when a teacher removes points for getting the question wrong

[flat rune]

To retain their meaning, i must retain that deduce is for the cops and deduct is for the rest.

[rapid bison]

🤔

[signal shell]

"deduce" is used by many others

i would say it is used when using reasoning and logic to come to a narrow conclusion

[rapid bison]

I deduce that you are not fluent.

kinda like that

...wait

[flat rune]

ok

[rapid bison]

Given your confusion between simple words, I deduce that you are not fluent.

there we go
(references to real people are accidental)

[signal shell]

yeah, but maybe the meaning is more clear with added context, such as:
"Based on your thick accent and limited vocabulary, i deduce you are not fluent in English"

[rapid bison]

yeh; my example deserved some context

[signal shell]

yeah i just noticed you added context before i did lol

[rapid bison]

it's okay; both our examples do differ by the word "that", which is something learnable :]

[flat rune]

Oh i understood now

For example

I deduced that you killed my mother

I deducted you some ppints because you made mistakes on spelling

Am i wrong?

[signal shell]

this is correct

[flat rune]

Thank you @signal shell and @rapid bison

Your examples helped me

[rapid bison]

yee 😎
your examples are perfect

[flat rune]

Besides i did not make the mistake of putting a space before '?'

[acoustic geyser]

Do future perfect and future perfect continuous sound a bit unnatural?

[acoustic geyser]

Can I use the future continuous to emphasise how long a future action will take?

[lyric parcel]

ah ok (English is confusing lol)

[sacred mirage]

These tenses may sound a bit more formal or specific, but they aren't necessarily unnatural. They're often used in written English or formal speech to emphasise the completion or ongoing process of an action by a certain point in the future as youll likely already be aware

[sacred mirage]

yep definitely, it's often used to describe actions that will be happening at a specific time in the future or to suggest a sense of continuity

[acoustic geyser]

As " I'll be living with my grandpa's house for a week? "

[sacred mirage]

Hi, im currently finishing work - is someone else able to help this person please

[flat rune]

when I use "training" or "train". For example " do you train every day or run?" Would the sentence be correct or should it be "training"?

[signal shell]

You could say "do you train" or "are you training"

[acoustic geyser]

Wassup sir

[flat rune]

what's up

if i remember well

[boreal ingot]

What about induction. I really can't understand that one

[gaunt mango]

Induction is separate, it kinda means putting in or bringing in

“He was inducted to the national honors society”

“The cold air inductor forces cold air into the engine to make it run better”

[boreal ingot]

I'm pretty sure this has already been explained to you, but I'd like to add that the noun forms of the two are the same, 'deduction'; however, the adjective forms are different, 'deductible' (can be deducted) and 'deducible' (can be deduced).

Interestingly, I can't find such a difference for 'deductive'. It always means relating deducing, and deducting doesn't seem to have an adjective like that

[boreal ingot]

Oh sorry, I didn't mean induction as in induct, but induction as in induce

Both share the same noun form

But yea, like, it seems to be a method of thought?

To induce

And it's somehow related to deducing

But i just can't wrap my head around it

[gaunt mango]

Inducing means to cause something by control, or to successfully persuade

“She was induced into labor”
“He was induced into going on the boring company hike by a reward of an extra bonus salary”

[boreal ingot]

This is what I mean

Induce vs deduce

It's smth in logic

And no matter how much I've read, I've failed to understand the difference

[gaunt mango]

Oh I see

[vapid meadow]

Induce is something that is done to something like to induce labor. Deduce is to reason or make a logical conclusion

So inductive reasoning is that more actively looking for answer while deducing is just observational

[gaunt mango]

Inductive reasoning is like making a guess based on things you notice.
Like you can induce that “all cats have fur” because most cats you see have fur, but it isn’t necessarily true. (You haven’t seen every cat in the world so this is inductive)

Deductive reasoning is making conclusions using info you already know.
Like, you know that apples are fruits, so if you’re holding an apple you can say “this apple is a fruit” and it is true no matter what

[gaunt mango]

Not really. Deductions and inductions don’t describe levels of activity, rather levels of conclusion and reasoning

[boreal ingot]

oh, I guess that makes sense. It's a bit hard to understand. But wouldn't this mean that most of the time when we say deduction we mean induction?

[gaunt mango]

Yeah it can be kind of hard to separate them
“The detective deduced that the crime was sloppy, because he knows that clean criminals don’t leave a trail of evidence to themselves”

Versus like

“The tourist induced that all lions are friendly because the lion he met today was very nice”

The tourist doesn’t know that lions are dangerous, so he is making a guess based on his notices, not from anything he knows

But the detective doesn’t need to guess that the criminal was sloppy because he knows that sloppy criminals leave trails of evidence

[boreal ingot]

The detective deduced that the criminal was an amature from the immense trail of evidence they left behind. The detective then went on to induce the criminal would not act again for a long time, as that crime seemed like their first act of murder.

Have I used them corectly?

[flat rune]

Never

[gaunt mango]

We are talking about reasoning not the verb induced

[boreal ingot]

wghat

[boreal ingot]

The reasoning meaning can be a verb

[gaunt mango]

Fair but

Yk what I meantttt

[boreal ingot]

I don't get why three people have misunderstood me when Im obviously comparing it to deduce

[flat rune]

I've never asked that question

[boreal ingot]

is it that obscure?

[gaunt mango]

Deductive reasoning vs inductive reasoning isn’t much talked about. Since these forms of reasoning is a concept, then just defining it as a word is confusing

[verbal heron]

but my question was: whether the sentence has been worded correctly or not

[boreal ingot]

You asked the difference between deduce and deduct. I said that I'm sure that question had already been answered, and just added soem additional information

[flat rune]

I've never asked the difference between these before

It was the first time

[verbal heron]

you've

[flat rune]

If i had really asked the question, i'd not have asked it again

[flat rune]

You're confusing me with someone else

[boreal ingot]

I didn't say you have

god damn and you call yourself fluent, fuck off. I just gave you some extra info about the words

[sacred mirage]

i don’t think you know whats going on here, its best to leave out of it unless theres actual input

for which i am yet to see

[verbal heron]

Did you know the difference between the two words before you were explained to?

[flat rune]

Damn everyone hates me

I can't ask anything

[sacred mirage]

whats up, this place is a place for questions

[verbal heron]

yea, that'd be more reasonable

[boreal ingot]

Mate, I told you 'You asked [x], I'm sure it has already been answered, but here is some slightly related information'

[flat rune]

I know

But they are getting mad

[boreal ingot]

I never said don't ask

[flat rune]

If you hate me, leave me alone

[sacred mirage]

guys guys, focus on whats going on

theres no hate here

[flat rune]

I don't talk to you

[sacred mirage]

theres no telling people not to ask questions

This seems to be just a blown out misunderstanding

maybe take a break from this, and come back later

with the question

[flat rune]

I don't think qi

So*

[sacred mirage]

perhaps I can take a look at your question for you

whats up

[flat rune]

They are angry for no reason

I have been arguing with @boreal ingot cuz of many topics

Time to stop that

[boreal ingot]

So, they asked a question about deduce vs deduct. I came 5 hours later, and saw there already were some answers, so I said 'I'm pretty sure this has already been explained to you, but I'd like to add that ...'
And then just added some not directly related but useful info. They understood it as 'don't ask this question a second time' somehow

[flat rune]

It hasn't been explained to me

If you don't know the context

Then don't talk for nothing

I'm fed up

[boreal ingot]

#📚｜english-questions message

#📚｜english-questions message

you got two answers

so I said that I know it's been answered

[flat rune]

Wtf

[boreal ingot]

and that what Im saying is just extra info

You have misunderstood me entierly

[flat rune]

After that i didn't ask the question again

Listen to me

[boreal ingot]

I Knoww

[flat rune]

Time to stop that

[boreal ingot]

I promise Im not saying anything about asking it twice

[flat rune]

I'm fed up of arguing with yoj

You*

[boreal ingot]

Why can't you understand me 😭

Liste, let me rephrase

so this misunderstanding ends

[zenith ether]

[flat rune]

You said " it has already been explained to you "

No

It has never

Been explained to me

[boreal ingot]

What I meant was this:

It has been 5 hours since you asked this question for the first time, so I'm aware that someone has already explained the difference between these verbs to you in these past five hours. I would just like to add some extra information about the noun and adjective forms of these words.

It was entierly just a note. I wasn't blaming you

I wasn't accusing you of having asked it before

I'm sorry if I somehow came off that way

[zenith ether]

ye, i think they misunderstood your intended tone

textual tones are always complicated to discern

[bitter hill]

😭

[flat rune]

I hadn't looked at the end of the message, that is why i misunderstood

[boreal ingot]

[flat rune]

Sorry

[boreal ingot]

Indeed. The other day I thought my friend was serious about something, but they were just using hyperbole

[boreal ingot]

It's alright. I'm sorry for getting mad

[bitter hill]

Scella does have a tendency to sound blunt at times 😔

[flat rune]

No problem

[boreal ingot]

Yeah

[verbal heron]

I guess I can post a question now, right?

[boreal ingot]

lmao yea

[boreal ingot]

this is a text

what's the question

[verbal heron]

In the second sentence of the second paragraph, what is meant by "'un"?

[boreal ingot]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/'un

probably this

[verbal heron]

Oh, well. And "right-down"?

[zenith ether]

Could be an alternative version of “one”

[boreal ingot]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/right-down

this

[verbal heron]

I thought it would be some informal word

[boreal ingot]

@verbal heron the exact sentence you've shared is used as an example here ^

Look at the adverb form's quotes

here:

Oh, not the same exactly

but 'A regular right-down bad 'un'

is shared between them

[verbal heron]

A big thank you to both @boreal ingot @zenith ether

[boreal ingot]

I was wondering what 'Work'un' would be though

I don't see how 'Work one' makes sense there

[rose burrow]

Hi guys

[verbal heron]

Dickens used "Work'us"

[boreal ingot]

wdym

Im just asking what it means

[verbal heron]

I mean he hasn't used "Work'un"

[verbal heron]

workers maybe

[boreal ingot]

oohh ohh

I misread lol

I think it's a name

it would make sense

if you're talking to 'Work'us'

replace 'work'us' with any name and it reads pretty well

and it is capatalised

soso that's my only guess

[verbal heron]

Unless it's an Irish name

[boreal ingot]

hm?

What do Irish naes have to do with it

[verbal heron]

The setting is not Ireland

[verbal heron]

People in England generally do not have such names that have ' in between their names

[boreal ingot]

Is Work'us an Irish name? I mean Ive never heard it, I'm just guessing what it could mean based on context

[bitter hill]

https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/workus.1544299/#:~:text=Work'us is the speaker's,might be called "Tex".

[boreal ingot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/namenerds/comments/11sbf8a/why_do_some_names_have_apostrophes/

this seems relevant for why it has an apostrophes

[zenith ether]

Dickens used a lot of colloquials for a literary text in the 1800s

[boreal ingot]

Ohhhh

[zenith ether]

[boreal ingot]

h dropping

makes sense

I forgot ppl do that lol

Thanks 💜 @bitter hill

[verbal heron]

I'll check it out later

thank you

[boreal ingot]

nevermind that, Akuma's answer explains it well

That isn't related

Here, Akuma linked to this comment:

You may note that a few lines above this, Oliver is addressed as "my work'us brat". Work'us is the speaker's pronunciation of "Workhouse." Oliver (who is from the workhouse) is addressed as "Work'us" in the same way that someone from Texas might be called "Tex".

[verbal heron]

Yea that makes sense

thanks a lot to all of you

[cloud badge]

to paraphrase this without the stylistic accents the author wrote into the speech it would be "she was a regular right-down (people these days say down-right, it means pure) bad one(bad person), And its a great deal better, Workhouse (the name mentioned above), that she died when she did..." etc.

[boreal ingot]

1. Does my response make sense?
2. Is my response natural? As in, is the sentence stilted?

[trail slate]

What does the second part mean??

[boreal ingot]

To stampede is to move quickly and in a panic, said of a whole crowd

They're doing a play on words, where instead of it just running through the family

it's stampeding through

You can't normally use stampede like that

but it's just going off of 'run'

[cloud badge]

its a little odd to tell someone what they do with their own hand but if youre going for sass that works ok, using "the mean of" is also not the best wording here, its a veeery math/numbers-centric word, and the average youre talking about here is more abstract.
Also since youre saying the have zero impact, zero already cant be positive or negative, so specifying that is redundant.
a double negative happens when you say "no impact" with "not positive nor negative", it makes you think 'no impact that isnt positive" before you read the next part. Id reccomend to replace the nor with or, or phrase it like
"you lose all impact on the average IQ of humans, be it positive or negative"
"you single handedly have no impact on the average IQ of humans, you have neither positive, nor negative impact."
the most clear would be "you have no impact on the average iq of humans, not positive or negative"

[boreal ingot]

No, they said 'I bring down the mean', I said 'you have no impact on the mean'

Cuz they were calling themself dumb

And I was telling them that theyre not

athat theyre avrg

I wasn't really telling them what they already said

[cloud badge]

oh oh, i thought they were like narrarating an action or something

[boreal ingot]

So here's full context:

Them: I'm so stupid
Me: no youre not
Them: I singlehandedly drop average human IQ by a few dozen points
Me: you single-handedly have no impact on the mean of all humans' IQ, not positive nor negative

[cloud badge]

Then to make it more natural id say "You dont single handedly impact the means of all human IQ, not in the negative, or positive"

or you could say 'neither in the negative nor positive" but using not implies 'not either' and either needs to go with or, while neither goes with nor

[boreal ingot]

Also since youre saying the have zero impact, zero already cant be positive or negative, so specifying that is redundant.
a double negative happens when you say "no impact" with "not positive nor negative", it makes you think 'no impact that isnt positive" before you read the next part. Id reccomend to replace the nor with or, or phrase it like

So what I was thinking is

You have no impact, not positive nor negative
would mean
You have neither a positive nor a negative impoact, you have no impact

is this not the case?

[cloud badge]

yeah, just that first example there would need to use or, instead of nor

[boreal ingot]

Why though? I already have a negation?

Not positive nor negative

[cloud badge]

not implies 'not either' and either needs to go with or. if you use neither, you use nor

either, or. neither, nor

[boreal ingot]

Here it says that it introduces items in a series and indicates none of them are true without mentioning 'neither', but the three examples it gives do use neither

However

This seems to be what I'm using

[cloud badge]

yeah, if youre gonna combine not with either, you need to combine it with or, or youll get a double negative, if im remembering correctly. sorry im not 100% sure i just remember "either, or/ neither, nor" being drilled into my head in school. id look for more info but i have to leave now, i hope you can find some better clarity!

[boreal ingot]

thanks for your help either way :>

[trail slate]

Got it, thanks

[vestal hedge]

I wonder, what is "trans" itself in the English dictionary? I heard some of these combinations : Translucent Transcendental Transparent or even Transgender

[signal shell]

It's a prefix used to mean "across"

Or to indicate opposing sides

An example is "transport" which means to "carry across"

"transgender" is used like opposing sides, as in, their gender identity opposes their sex assigned at birth

Translucent and transparent are about light that can be seen across to the opposite side

@vestal hedge hope that helps

[flat rune]

Robert wukosky is a great student but that young guy usually steals items from his classmate so he needs to recibe a punishment from the institute , let alone Jhon Kuwowsky, though Annie Eanoewsky is the smarter in the class, don't get me wrong it i just want to coperate for the well being of this School .

Is it well written?

What would be better: needs or must by the way?

It is a horrible text i made myself but i'm trying my best xd

[cloud badge]

transgender is like, going from one gender to another, its a combination of transition and gender, transitioning from one to the other.

[cloud badge]

its pretty well written, but its a bit of a run on sentence, and you would only use "smarter" if youre comparing her to someting else. if shes the most smart, youd say smartest. if shes smarter than john, youd say 'shes the smarter one in the class' (inplying youre comparing her to john). and must would be better, it more implies that the person saying it thinks he needs to be punished, but really, he just should be punished.

[boreal ingot]

'trans-' means across

[boreal ingot]

it's transtioning across from assigned to true gender

imo at least

I agree with Ross's analysis of it, and I've seen another person explain it like that too

when I asked about the word in relation to the 'trans-' prefix on reddit

[cloud badge]

yeah, i didnt specify which one was the persons true gender, its that theyre transitioning their body to show as a different gender than it had before.

going from one thing to the other, but yeah, theres some nuance to talking about that thats deeper than the word transition

[signal shell]

Yeah, I see the idea behind how "transition" fits the concept of transgender, but I can't find any source that backs up that claim that the word has this etymology. However, I have found a source that backs up my thinking.

But it's essentially the same idea anyways. It's kind of a moot point

Both ideas work in the end

[sacred mirage]

whats your idea ross

[signal shell]

@sacred mirage

[cloud badge]

i believe it kind of started from cross dresser when the term for them, transvestite, became popular. the trans prefix was then used much in the lgbt community not just for 'vestite' aka clothing but also gender transitioning, but yeah, the 'trans' in transvesitte is transition clothing aka cross dress

[boreal ingot]

Robert Wukosky is a great student***,*** but he usually steals items from his classmate***,*** so he needs to receive punishment from the institute
These are the eedits I'd make for the first part ^.

This part, I can't really understand:

let alone Jhon Kuwowsky, though Annie Eanoewsky is the smarter in the class, don't get me wrong it i just want to coperate for the well being of this School .
'let alone' doesn't make sense there, and I don't see what 'though' is contrasting, I also don't see how this part relates to the first part.

Right, thank you

I corrected the misspelling with a misspelling

edited

[flat rune]

@boreal ingot thank you very much

[boreal ingot]

np, but if you could clarify context and what you meant, I can try to help correct the second part

[cloud badge]

mostly agree, but heres my take: "Robert Wukosky is a great student, but that young man usually steals items from his classmates. He needs to recieve a punishment from the institute, not only Jhon Kuwowsky. Although, Annie Eanoewsky is the smarter of the two in that class... Don't get me wrong, I do want to coperate for the well being of this School."
the last few sentences dont really relate to the first though, so it doesnt make a lot of sense

[boreal ingot]

saying 'that young' man implies we're talking about someone else

who isn't Robert

[cloud badge]

no it doesnt, the 'that' refers to robert

[boreal ingot]

Robert was walking down the street, and that young man was eating

^ sounds like two ppl

[boreal ingot]

'That' can also be said while pointing to a young man

[cloud badge]

what was he eating?

it can sound like both

[flat rune]

I made Robert a star now

[cloud badge]

the and makes it sound like two people, but the sentence used but and the context makes it obvious

[boreal ingot]

how is that relevant to the sentence :p

[cloud badge]

'the young man" would be better though, i do agree

[cloud badge]

i was just joking that to me it did sound like one person xp

[boreal ingot]

To me it sounds ilogical, like contrasting the fact Robert is a great student with the fact another young man is stealing

[cloud badge]

it would depend on the emphasis used in the pronunciation of 'that young man'

[boreal ingot]

or maybe you expect that young man to be like Robert, but you're saying that he is not

[flat rune]

I think is less modal the way i wrote the sentence , if there would be a Tracher or a Director it would be more modal

[boreal ingot]

I think change it to 'the young man' or use 'he'

'the' was suggested by Blues

[signal shell]

Honestly, this type of sentence structure works really well when spoken aloud, where the tone can help provide context for who "that guy" refers to. But written, it's ambiguous who this refers to.

[cloud badge]

saying the young man makes it more passive, saying that young man makes it sound like theyre singling him out like hes the only bad one in the class or so

[cloud badge]

yeah exactly, its all dependant on emphasis

[boreal ingot]

Yeah, saying it outloud I suppose 'that' does work

[flat rune]

That's quiet well , i wanted to practice the two phrases i learned today," to get wrong someone" and "let alone something or someone"

[boreal ingot]

@flat rune, mind clarifying the second part?

[flat rune]

Yeah go on i really apreciate your opinions and corrections

[boreal ingot]

You've misused 'let alone' sadly. You use it when something is less likely than something you've already said. It sounds emphatic

I don't like, let alone want to marry, him

[cloud badge]

dont get me wrong, your writing wasnt bad, but the topics were a little confusing, let alone the sentence structure.

[boreal ingot]

I am not going to eat a single pickle, let alone a whole jar

[A] is not happening, so there isn't a chance in hell that [B] is the case

kinda like that lol

[flat rune]

I think so haha , i read the let alone phrase from a sentence that was like : Basque is getting hard to learn , let alone my chinese

[boreal ingot]

I think 'nevermind' would work better there

however, 2 does match up

It's likely uncommon, though

as I've never seen it, but maybe it isn't

not sure

[flat rune]

Yeah that sentence is very good and ahaha kill 2 bird from 1 shot btw🤣

[flat rune]

That one is good too

[cloud badge]

let alone is more about someting you dont want to talk about because its so much more of something than the first thing. never mind is not always for things you dont have the energy to get into a conversation about, it can be used for any related topic you dont want to talk about, usually irrelevant topics.

[boreal ingot]

If you say 'nevermind' with enough emphasis, it can be used like that, but I agree, yea

[cloud badge]

yeah, the only difference is that let alone is always used with that emphasis, nevermind is not always

[flat rune]

Yeah the text i had read was like that

[boreal ingot]

I will talk to them regularly, so they think I'm their friend.

Why do we say 'so they think' and not 'so they will think'?

[cloud badge]

if you said it like that it would be because you want them continuously thinking youre their friend, not just that they will think youre their friend at some point in the future

if youre not friends yet, or they dont think you are yet, youd say the second

[flat rune]

Yeah the first sentence sounds like you were meant

Xd

Like if you were hidding something meant being their friend

[flat rune]

I wanna know the answer too, isn't it well written too?

[bitter hill]

I don't think you need the comma here

[boreal ingot]

Ngl I don't get the explination :<

[boreal ingot]

Yeah, I felt I need t oremove it but couldn't understand why I felt like that

Could you tell me the rule?

I am tired, so I will sleep
do I need it here?

Both of them are independant

and 'so' is a FANBOYS

[bitter hill]

Cuz it's just a shortened way of saying 'so that' to express purpose

Ig it's more of a subordinate clause when using so (that), so it feels more natural without the comma

[bitter hill]

This so is the fanboys version to mean therefore

[boreal ingot]

hmm

this is confusing

thank you

[bitter hill]

Try googling so that/in order that

[boreal ingot]

Do you have any comment on this? ^ if I could ask

'they think I'm their friend' vs 'they will think I'm their friend'

in that sentence

[cosmic night]

wft you talking about?

[flat rune]

i think the first one it's about a current situation and the last one is something would happen depending if you first say : if i do X they will think i'm their friend , like if it would be hypotetical.

xdd i'm not intermidate so don't even take me into account.

[static sorrel]

It's right though, have more confidence!

[verbal heron]

Ah, I had already drifted off by then.Thanks for making that clear. But imo, representing "workhouse" by Work'us" would make more sense if the setting were in Germany, "hause" is the German cognate word for "house"

[flat rune]

why do you say by then and not sence then , is it right or wrong the second one?

[verbal heron]

Here, "by then" means "by the time"."By the time" means "before the time some event occurred". I meant to say "Before she replied to me, I had already slept".
If I say "since then", that means "I started sleeping (right) from the time she replied to me".

like look at the following example: "Somehow we reached the station by time." It is most likely to mean they had reached the station before the train arrived

[flat rune]

ahhhh

in spanish it would be in time

but as i can see is ''by''

''by'' has a lot of uses isn't it?

[verbal heron]

yes, it does

[rapid bison]

I'd interpret that more like a "by that time"
easier to internalize

[vestal hedge]

yes it helps, thankss

[verbal heron]

even in my language, it would be "in time"

[rapid bison]

lolll

[verbal heron]

Here, has "was disposed to" been used as an adjective or a verb?

[signal shell]

I think "disposed" is an adjective here

"was" is just a linking verb

You could replace the phrase with "was inclined to"

[flat rune]

it's time to learn grammar

i haven´t taken grammar since much time ago

for a long time*

[verbal heron]

But the person despised Oliver, so it is highly unlikely that he would be inclined to be friends with Oliver

[signal shell]

Hmmm, I think this passage is being very unclear about who "he" and "him" and "his" is supposed to be

It's hurting my head

But I'm nearly certain I'm correct in my analysis of that phrase

[bitter hill]

Mrs. vs Mr.

[strange sinew]

was + predicative complement + complementizer + copular (in the infinitive) + predicative nominative

[cloud badge]

I would advise against using Oliver twist to learn English rules, phrases, and vocab. It uses very dated and regional slang, spelling that reads more like an accent, and odd phrases that uneducated people might have said at that time to make the story more immersive. It's good for learning how to bend the rules in writing, but not learning them in the first place.

[flat rune]

what do you do when you understand 80% english spoken but you can't speak out loud yet as well as (just like*) your listening skill's improved?

btw what is the diference between:

Issue
matter
problem
subject
theme
thing

i always get confused among these words when it is about a ... well there you are ahaahah

Haha, I see what you mean! These words can be tricky because they all relate to "something to think or talk about." But each has its own nuance. Here's a simple breakdown:

Issue 🧾

Meaning: A topic or concern that needs attention or discussion. It often implies a challenge or a point of debate.
Example: "We need to address the issue of employee dissatisfaction."
Key Idea: It’s something that needs to be solved, discussed, or debated.
Matter 📂

Meaning: A general term for a situation, topic, or case that requires attention.
Example: "This is a personal matter that I prefer to handle on my own."
Key Idea: It’s broad and often refers to something important, official, or serious.
Problem ⚠️

Meaning: A negative situation or difficulty that requires a solution.
Example: "There’s a problem with the Wi-Fi, it’s not working."
Key Idea: It’s something negative that needs to be fixed.
Subject 📚

Meaning: The topic or focus of a conversation, study, or discussion.
Example: "The subject of today’s class is World War II."
Key Idea: It’s the main idea being studied, discussed, or presented.
Theme 🎭

Meaning: A central idea, message, or motif, often used in art, literature, or films.
Example: "The theme of the movie is love and sacrifice."
Key Idea: It’s a recurring idea or message.
Thing 🪐

Meaning: A very general word used for anything you can’t (or don’t want to) name.
Example: "Pass me that thing on the table."
Key Idea: It’s a vague, catch-all word when you can’t remember, don’t know, or don’t care to name something.
Summary
Issue = a concern or a debate.
Matter = a formal or serious case, situation, or topic.
Problem = something negative to solve.
Subject = the main focus of a discussion or study.
Theme = the deeper message or idea in stories, art, or media.
Thing = literally anything. 😄
If you'd like, I can give you more examples or help you practice!

[flat rune]

Lol that's what AI gave me , i think i wont need you anymore , so i'll stop bothering you for a while xd

[native forge]

What does it mean for someone to get folded?

[flat rune]

"To get folded" means to be defeated, overpowered, or knocked down (often in a fight or confrontation). It comes from the idea of being "bent" or "folded" like paper or a chair.
Example: "He got folded in that boxing match." (He got knocked out or beaten badly.)

[sacred mirage]

please don’t use ai to help other people out, its not wise; not everything is correct and relevant

[flat rune]

Okay sorry , i'll take it into account

[flat rune]

Fold legs? Or get beaten idk...

[verbal heron]

i mean "to dispose someone to do something" means to make someone behave in a particular way or to make them do that work (found in OALD); that even makes sense as in the previous accounts, The Sowerberries hated Oliver, but had to accept him on the beadle, Mr. Bumble's request. And later, Oliver was offered to co-operate with Sowerberry, the undertaker in his work.

and "disposed" can even act as an adjective in "was disposed to be his friend"

If the phrase had been " was disposed to be Oliver's friend (by Bumble)", then no confusion would arise

[verbal heron]

The Sowerberries hated him but had to bear with Oliver's presense on the beadle, Mr. Bumble's request

[verbal heron]

The way Dickens combines multiple clauses to form a single sentence with the help of punctuations-the usage of so many colons and semicolons is intriguing but also makes it difficult to decipher the sentence.
What should I read instead of Oliver Twist?

[gentle fable]

Is any1 participating for the HCGEC?

[crimson vortex]

What is HCGEC?

[crimson vortex]

I have just googled it. It's a popular writing contest

Are there any rewards for first places?

[flat rune]

hie

[gentle fable]

Yeah

[gentle fable]

Yup

an Internship with Havard Crimson

• money prizes too

btw if u r willin to register I have a discount code

orignal price for early bird (ends on 15th) is 15$ with my code it will be 10$

[tepid bough]

how can i pay

[gentle fable]

paypal or credit/debit card

[cloud badge]

those also make it so native english speakers have a hard time figuring out whats going on so yeah, perhaps something less advanced, "To Kill a Mockingbird" by Harper Lee, "The Chronicles of Narnia" series by C.S. Lewis, The Diary of Anne Frank, where the red fern grows by wilson rawls, Twelve Angry Men by Reginald Rose and you can watch the movie too, its really good and follows the sccript exactly. Hatchet by Gary Paulsen, the outsiders by stephen king, The Giver by Lois Lowry

[harsh cypress]

hello guys

[tidal lily]

Question: use first conditional.

• if you ________(meet) john, ________(give) him my best wishes.

[tidal lily]

#💭｜general #🫂｜beginner-chat

[crimson vortex]

Can anyone tell me the difference between involve and engage

[dry estuary]

In my opinion, "involve" is used when you got invited into an activity, while "engage" is used when you join that activity yourself

Please correct me if I'm wrong

[strange sinew]

"To be involved" with an activity means that you're associated with it, and probably doing something regarding it - whether that be actively participating or doing something behind the scenes.

"To be engaged" in or with an activity (or something else) means that you're an active participant at that moment (or in the general time frame of the activity)

[tepid bough]

is visa card allowed? And does this comp take place annually?

i want to join next year

[gentle fable]

yes to both

the competition will take place in mid 2025

nvm

regional round in Feb global in March

[tepid bough]

oh nice

sadly i’m snowed under schoolwork because i’m having a critical exam in mid 2025

bruh

[gentle fable]

which 1

[tepid bough]

graduate exam

[gentle fable]

oh

[tepid bough]

the most important exam in vietnam obviously

[gentle fable]

r u in highschool?

[tepid bough]

secondary school

[gentle fable]

oki

[tepid bough]

i’m going to high school next year

[gentle fable]

wats ur age?

[gentle fable]

gl

mate

[tepid bough]

i’m 14

[tepid bough]

tysm

[gentle fable]

kk

same

:>

[tepid bough]

oh lol

what a coincidence

[gentle fable]

I guess

[hollow night]

I have a question about the capitalization of names.

So, okay, wuxia is a genre of Chinese fiction concerning the adventures of martial artists in ancient China.

I am currently translating a wuxia novel. In the novel, there's a kind of herb called the "nine yang resurrection herb."

It's not one of a kind. There are "nine yang resurrection herbs" growing all over the place.

So my question is: Do I capitalize the "nine yang" in the name? Because, in the multiverse of wuxia stories, "Nine Yang" is kinda a proper noun. There are plenty of unique skill names that have "Nine Yang" in them. For example, the Nine Yang Divine Skill. There's also the myth of the nine suns that were shot down by some mythological archer. And I think it's a unique term in Taoism. So "Nine Yang" is kinda a big deal, I guess?

[verbal heron]

I had been reading "To Kill A Mockingbird" till last week. I had been reading it online; I don't have its printed version. But I've stopped reading it for a while cause of my exams; its intricate vocabulary makes my dictionary, my best friend :))

[thorn radish]

Are online grammar checkers a good resource to master grammar, especialy articles?

[bitter hill]

As a frequent reader of wuxia, I say yes. You should capitalize it

[crisp elm]

Hi i have one question

Mas vou falar em português, pq não sei como traduzir isso...

Estava ouvindo uma música em inglês e o cantor disse "i am yours, e you are my"

Eu sou teu e tu és meu, mas tipo... pq yours? N seria you? Ou your? Porque colocar no plural???

[crisp elm]

Aaaaa ok

In the context of the music makes sense

Thanks for help me

[flat rune]

Hi

[crisp elm]

Hi

[boreal ingot]

If you like weird long sentences connected together with a bunch of semicolons and colons (I do; it's quite intriguing), you could try out Robinson Crusoe

[boreal ingot]

Here's what my Brazilian friend has to say (I don't speak Portuguese):

She also said:

I can confirm that second part

[crisp elm]

Hoo thanks

[boreal ingot]

By the way, here. She told me to send you this:

[crisp elm]

Yes!! I have a lot to learn

Thanks my friend!

[boreal ingot]

No problem

[verbal heron]

For the time being the books I am willing to read are: To Kill A Mockingbird, The Great Gatsby, The Picture of the Dorian Gray and Anna Karenina

[last comet]

hello everyone, i have a question. is were leaving correct in this sentence?
The answer my teacher gave me is: was - were leaving - fell. And my answer is was - left - was falling

It (be)______ cold when we (leave)________the house that day, and a slight snow (fall)_______.

[boreal ingot]

Well I'll keep those in mind, maybe I'll read one of them some day

[verbal heron]

yes

[verbal heron]

Sure; I will read Robinson Cruso after I read the books that do not have so many complex sentence structures

[last comet]

oh so it's correct, right? thank you so much

[vestal hedge]

ah well this is kinda funny to ask this, I still don't understand what's the meaning of "embodiment", is it like eh. To make things from not nonexistent to exist?

[verbal heron]

yes, "we were leaving" is correct in that sentence

[last comet]

thank you so much

[boreal ingot]

both 'were leaving' and 'left' are fine

[last comet]

thank you

[thorn radish]

I've seen one military instruction, and the speaker of the video says: "One important tip because the weapon's weight (...) otherwise the gun could dip and hit the ground clogging the muzzle". Why does the speaker use 'the' article for 'gun'? Even if we see the gun on the footage, isn't correct to use "a gun" or "guns" if we want to talk about guns in general, not about the instructor's gun?

[proven cliff]

When does she start or when will she start?

Which one is correct and why? I always used to “will start” but now in text i saw “does she start”

[acoustic geyser]

Hello

What type of grammar is this phrase? " be supposed to" and "be bound to"?

[acoustic geyser]

When does she start mean when you want to know when she starts at a scheduled time.

She starts at 6 AM ( this is a fixed time or it's in the schedule, she can't change that ), I would think.

Or it's a fact that's true.

[sweet breach]

Shall I ask Margaret to telephone you when she ?
a. should return
b. will return
c. returned
d. returns

[craggy jolt]

c

[sweet breach]

are u sure , because im not sure

[craggy jolt]

I thought it was an English test question so I answered as much as I knew. Don't take my word I'm not sure too

[gaunt mango]

D.

[sweet breach]

i gues this is the right answer but i'm not sure

[pearl lion]

Hello guys, how are you? So I have a question for you. How can I use gerund x infinitive? I can’t set it in my mind rsrs

[alpine gyro]

Could this be a?

[magic tangle]

Will return

[gaunt mango]

The answer here is “returns”

When talking about future conditions we use present simple tense not future tense

So it isn’t “will return” it’s returns

[boreal ingot]

I don't see why a wouldn't work as well

[gaunt mango]

“Should” implies possibility or obligation. That changes the meaning of the original sentence

Since this is a time clause (condition based on time) you don’t use a modal verb

Additionally, if you say should it implies that you aren’t confident she will, but that doesn’t make sense in the context of returning.
“Shall I ask Margaret to telephone you when she should return?”
Even then it would make more sense to say
“Shall I ask Margaret to telephone you should she return?” (This implies that you assume she won’t return but in the case she does you call)

[verbal heron]

@gaunt mango Would “would return” work there?

[gaunt mango]

Same thing as above

Would is a modal verb

You can’t use it with time clauses

And would is used for hypotheticals too

Margaret returning is a real future event, not something hypothetical

[sweet breach]

He is tired after _.
a. works all day
b. has worked all day
c. is working all day
d. working all day

[verbal heron]

Ah I see, you are right. Moreover, the structure and idea of the sentence would change if we used “would return”

[bitter hill]

What do you think the answer is

[sweet breach]

i think it's D but i'm not sure 100

100%

[umbral haven]

its d

he is tired after working all day is the correct answer

is this is your english homework or something

[sweet breach]

no i swear im studying and practice some random questions

no no

i need your help here please because i don't have any idea about it

Joe said, "Let me have a book of fives and one Air Mail."
He wanted to buy .
a. some stamps
b. an airplane ticket
c. five books
d. some stationery

[umbral haven]

joe wanted to buy stamps;
a book of stamps refers to a group of stamps (stickers you put on a letter), and air mail is a sticker used to indicate you want the parcel to be sent via air (airplane)

[sweet breach]

why its book and air mail i was confuse

[sweet breach]

this is very helpful i really appreciate

[alpine gyro]

Could this be a? I need help on thiss

[umbral haven]

this comprehension is really confusing i don’t know how you’re a beginner

[alpine gyro]

I’m intermediate but this is just practice I use for an exam coz we get similar questions and it’s good if u work on it

Plus I lack some grammar rules and I’m not good at some English vocabulary 😅

[umbral haven]

I’ve been speaking for my entire life and I don’t think any of these answers are correct

[bitter hill]

Yes A

[alpine gyro]

Thank you sooo much 🙏

[alpine gyro]

Ik it’s rlly confusing

That’s why I wanted to check with natives here and people that study English

I hate them just as u do too but unfortunately I have an exam on these 😔

[umbral haven]

A refers to them stopping after 10 seconds, a time period never mentioned in the passage.

B is contradicting because the paragraph refers to all sounds emitted

C talks about a variation of sounds, which isn’t mentioned anywhere in the passage

And D doesn’t seem like it can be correct because the research paper talks about all caterpillars, not individual ones

[alpine gyro]

No they don’t mean if it’s found in the text. They’re just asking which finding could align with what bura and colleagues found

[bitter hill]

It doesn't have to be mentioned in the passage. It just has to support the text under the condition that the finding is true.

[umbral haven]

oh I see. it just says if their research is true which statement would support it and since none of that information was included in the passage I just assumed none of them would be correct because nothing would support any of the research made

[bitter hill]

If the species that do emit sounds only did so during simulated attacks, that would most directly support their claim that said sounds are directed primarily at predators

[umbral haven]

oh so it works in that way. apologies @alpine gyro I haven’t ever done a comprehension like this one

[alpine gyro]

It’s alright! I been there before : )

[errant kettle]

I agree with A, also

[alpine gyro]

Thank you soo much 💙🙏

[boreal ingot]

This is after they said 'so I could become a villain and stop needing to sleep' in response to something I said

Is this bit correct?

others' minds' eyes

[boreal ingot]

When we say

She saw two cats in a box.
Is 'in a box' modifying 'cats' or 'saw'?

[faint kayak]

Yoi

[sacred mirage]

“saw two cats in a box”

"in a box" is modifying the "cats.” part. This means that the two cats are located in a box. If "in a box" were modifying "saw," it would imply that the act of seeing took place in a box, which is probably not what you mean

[verbal heron]

Is the word “luminous” redundant in the following sentence?
“The sage's luminous words were a source of light for the ragged people of the old town, elevating their daily lives”

[brave quiver]

Whats the difference between “put” and “gain” when we talking about weight?

[bitter hill]

As in to put on weight vs to gain weight? I don't think there's any noteworthy difference

Actually, I suppose the former is slightly more informal

[brave quiver]

I’ve just had a task where I need to fill the space and put “gain” or “put”😭😭 but alright thank you!

[bitter hill]

It should be 'put on', not just 'put'

So it's probably 'gain'

[brave quiver]

oh I got it

there was “on” after the space

I cant say “gain on weight “?

[bitter hill]

I don't believe so, no

[latent seal]

who even says ' a book of fives'?

[night ferry]

Hey guys, does anyone could recommend tools such as programs or apps to make research and improve my English?

[tepid bough]

google scholar i suggest

[cloud badge]

Stamps often are sold in booklet form, if the booklet only had stamps called 5s, or 5 cent stamps, itd be totally normal to call them that.

[cloud badge]

No, that's a good sentence

[flat rune]

What is the difference between produce and product

[verbal heron]

alright, thanks

[night ferry]

How does it work?

[sacred mirage]

. You produce the product, so you make it

Or you go to the produce isle which would be perishable food

[flat rune]

Ty for answering my question

I thought product was a verb

[craggy jolt]

D because there's "is" in the sentence

[acoustic geyser]

Which one is correct?
I'm at the London Bridge
I'm in the London Bridge

[flat rune]

The first one

[hoary lichen]

Use “in” when there’s an interior. You can say you’re in the Tower Bridge (the bridge next to London Bridge) because it has rooms inside the bridge, but you cannot be inside something that does not have an interior. So for this, you can’t say in.

Use “at” for a general site, you can be at any location if you are in the general vicinity of it.

Alternatively, use “on” here to say that you are on top of it. For example, if you’re walking over the bridge, then you’re on the London Bridge.

TL;DR

• In - You are inside of it
• On - You are on top of it
• At - You are next to, on top or inside of it

[acoustic geyser]

Is there a way to memorise the preposition of location easily?

[boreal ingot]

I see that makes sense. Thank youuuu :>

[boreal ingot]

^

[cloud badge]

Grammatically correct but id recommend to just use 'in others minds' or 'in other people's minds' because the minds eye is associated with premonitions and imaginations, while 'in other people's minds' is more about opinions and observations. Not strictly but, that's the usual vibe of those.

[boreal ingot]

Well, I'm saying other ppl imagine you as unsleeping, cuz of how dehumanized you are in their minds (they only focus on your being a villain). So it would make sense for me to use the one that focuses on imagination, no?

But thanks for confirming it's grammatical

[cloud badge]

Its still more of an observation, like it's something that would be logical and make sense for them to imagine. You could even replace it with 'in others opinions' and itd give the same meaning, so yeah, id recommend against the eye, its a mystical magical kind of association with that term, while the other means the same as 'in their view' 'the way they see it' 'the way they think of it' 'in their thoughts'

[boreal ingot]

I see

Got it

My many thanks

[cloud badge]

[acoustic geyser]

Hello

Do we often use "in" when we are in a open space?

or just enclosed space?

[cloud badge]

Yeah if you're talking about being somewhere that's contained within something else, like, im in times square, it's an area of new york city. 'Im in the park' 'they're in the meadow, on the field of clover'

[acoustic geyser]

Like, we are in the middle of nowhere?

[boreal ingot]

well, the middle of nowhere is part of nowhere ig